Re: CS>kills all ?

[Inga34]

It seems hear different things on whether cs kills all ..can it kill all 
parasites in the human body? l dont know if this has been answered or not. 


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CS strength, times, etc.

[Pam Whitmire]

Ok, I'm confused. Someone told me that you don't WANT to see your silver
wires bubbling and misting. And NOT to use saline. When I used saline, I
saw lots of mist rising off one of the wires (I'm using a small
generator with 3 9volt batteries) and the solution stayed sort of misty.
Tasted just like the gold-colored CS that I had bought from a company.
When I didn't use saline, I didn't see anything at all happening. Does
it take a lot of time? One article said DONT boil the water - another
said DO boil it. Today I heated the water to approx. 125 degrees,
started the generator and at about 11 minutes I began to see tiny
bubbles on one rod. Started timer again, and at the end of about 24
minutes the one rod was black and starting to form some deposits on the
end (but none were dropping in the water) the other rod was also
blackish and beginning to mist a bit from the end. I turned it off and
have left it alone. How do I know it's correct? Do you just assume that
you got a good solution because you had the water, silver, generator and
left it for x amount of time? I know I sound like a real dummy, but I
really want this to work for me. I appreciate all of you who have taken
time to answer mefeel free to reply to me personally if that is
best. Thanks in advance,
Pam




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Re: cs- can it prevent lyme disease? What about preventing tetanus?

[Donna2424]

Marshall,
  How much do you take and how much to you up it to when you find one on you? 
 That is a great preventative instead of running for abx everytime.
Donna


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Re: CS>No Subject

[boberger]

Katarina,

You are right is has too large of particles to be any good. Toss it.
Send me all of the parameters you used to make it and I will try to diagnose 
your
problem.
I.E. voltage, electrode spacing, size and type of electrode (round , flat,), how
much electrode is in the water, how much water, how long did you run the brew, 
do
you have any kind of meter in the cirduit if so what were the readings.

Don't be embarrased about questions so many things cango wrong, but once you get
things set it works like a dream.

Robert




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CS>warts, eyes, etc.

[Terry Wayne]

Hi gang,
My wife gets an inflamed eye every month or so, all bloodshot and bad
pain. Recently she awoke with one. I told her to go downstairs and put
some cs in it. She said, "Oh, you think cs cures everything!" But she
went down and put three drops in. By the time she got back upstairs,
the pain was gone, and the inflammation was gone an hour later. Now she
is telling our friends about cs!
The same night, my 14-year old asked me what to do about a cluster of
four warts on the side of the ball of her foot. I told her to soak a
bandaid in cs and put it on her foot. She did, went to bed, and in the
morning found that the warts had turned white. She rubbed at them, and
they all crumbled off!
I've only been making cs for about two or three weeks, but I'm sure
I'll have more stories to come!
Terry Wayne
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Re: CS>Doctors' perks

[EJohns9525]

In a message dated 6/28/99 2:23:31 PM Central Daylight Time, 
liz...@frontiernet.net writes:

<< Most of the "perks" doctors receive are not money but golf trips, 
expensive gifts, freebies on lots of stuff compliments of the company that 
manufactures the particular brand of poison being pushed that month.
 
 Liz
  >>

Someone in my family is the only nurse in a Dr. office.  She is constantly 
tellng me about the great food delivered to the office and many times she 
brings all sorts of things home the drug reps drop off.  I don't know what 
they do for the doc but if they can't get past her they don't see him so it 
is a never ending you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.  I will say in 
his defense, that he is a fine person that sometimes goes along with us 
strange
ones that will not use drugs.
edith 


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RE: CS>Devil in doctor's uniform!

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Simon,

You may want to read Dr. Dusenberg's paper.   Makes the claim that AIDS is 
not caused by HIV.  Nonetheless, many people with the condition report vast 
improvement with CS.  Another "how-does-it-do-it?" issue.

Another doctor, Dr.  Wilner, barnstormed the world shooting himself up with 
freshly drawn gore from a positive.  On stage, no less.

He died a couple of years ago from a very suspicious "heart attack".

If you want to get Dusenberg's paper, to www.trufax.org.  Look for back 
issues of their print version, mail them and ask which issue it is in.  I 
think it is # 120.  Great web site, great journal.

Congratulations on getting better!

HI-O- Silver,  awy...

James Osbourne, Holmes

a...@trail.com

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From:   samma...@aol.com [SMTP:samma...@aol.com]
Sent:   Monday, June 28, 1999 2:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Devil in doctor's uniform!

In a message dated 6/28/99 2:53:07 PM EST, si...@pixel.globalnet.co.uk 
writes:

> While mentioning this to some health advisors, one (of whom was about to
>  leave his job) blabbed about the bonus the doctors get for starting 
someone
>  on anti-viral therapy, with this info I figured my only hope is myself & 
my
>  own research.

I've read a lot about AZT (anti-viral) being very harmful to patients. 
In fact, it was considered and rejected as a cancer treatment prior to its
use in HIV patients because of its toxicity.
Simon, when you say "undetectable" do you mean you might draw a 
negative
result on an HIV test in the future?   How encouraging and miraculous that
would be!
Samm


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RE: CS>No Subject

[Anthony W. Nettis]

I would not buy CS from a store such as GNC as you have no easy way of
determining what you are getting - - it may very well of less quality than
the stuff you are making.  I would either generate it myself or buy it from
someone who has a very good reputation among members of this CS list.

(I always make my own.)

Tony

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Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 5:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>No Subject


Okay, last question for today. I promise.
Someone just told me that maybe the CS is not working on my sinus infection
because the particles are too big. How would I find that out?
I just made a new batch at 25 minutes with the beck's silver pulser and it
is
almost clear. Maybe the water in the last batch wasn't good. Anyhow, I'm
worried about taking it if the particles are too big because of this
question
about turning blue. The pulser manual says the micron size should be .005 to
.015 - is that okay?
I think for the moment for my sinuses I will buy some at the store for my
sprayer and see if it is more effective. Also maybe try a higher ppm. Any
suggestions?
And can I make a higher ppm by running my pulser for longer - or does that
make the particles bigger.
Sorry that I am so ignorant about how this works but I never was any good at
science experiments.
Thanks,
Katarina


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Re: CS>No Subject

[Marshall Dudley]

kato...@aol.com wrote:

> Okay, last question for today. I promise.
> Someone just told me that maybe the CS is not working on my sinus infection
> because the particles are too big. How would I find that out?
> I just made a new batch at 25 minutes with the beck's silver pulser and it is
> almost clear. Maybe the water in the last batch wasn't good. Anyhow, I'm
> worried about taking it if the particles are too big because of this question
> about turning blue. The pulser manual says the micron size should be .005 to
> .015 - is that okay?

Turning blue has nothing to do with particle size, that can only occur with
compunds of silver, which you should not be generating at all.

> I think for the moment for my sinuses I will buy some at the store for my
> sprayer and see if it is more effective. Also maybe try a higher ppm. Any
> suggestions?
> And can I make a higher ppm by running my pulser for longer - or does that
> make the particles bigger.

Longer means higher ppm means bigger particles.  Once you get to about 5 ppm we
find that additional ppm almost all goes into bigger particles, not more
particles.

Maybe your problem is allergies instead of an infection, in which case the CS
might not work for this.  I find that the relief is almost instaneous when use 
as
a nasal spray for sinus infections.  Another possibility is that the nasal
passages are swollen, and not allowing the spray to penetrate into all areas.
That is why I mix 1/4 nasal decongestant with 3/4 CS when I use it.

Marshall


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CS>No Subject

[Kato109]

Okay, last question for today. I promise. 
Someone just told me that maybe the CS is not working on my sinus infection 
because the particles are too big. How would I find that out? 
I just made a new batch at 25 minutes with the beck's silver pulser and it is 
almost clear. Maybe the water in the last batch wasn't good. Anyhow, I'm 
worried about taking it if the particles are too big because of this question 
about turning blue. The pulser manual says the micron size should be .005 to 
.015 - is that okay?
I think for the moment for my sinuses I will buy some at the store for my 
sprayer and see if it is more effective. Also maybe try a higher ppm. Any 
suggestions?
And can I make a higher ppm by running my pulser for longer - or does that 
make the particles bigger.
Sorry that I am so ignorant about how this works but I never was any good at 
science experiments.
Thanks,
Katarina


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Re: CS>Devil in doctor's uniform!

[Sammark4]

In a message dated 6/28/99 2:53:07 PM EST, si...@pixel.globalnet.co.uk writes:

> While mentioning this to some health advisors, one (of whom was about to
>  leave his job) blabbed about the bonus the doctors get for starting someone
>  on anti-viral therapy, with this info I figured my only hope is myself & my
>  own research.

I've read a lot about AZT (anti-viral) being very harmful to patients.  
In fact, it was considered and rejected as a cancer treatment prior to its 
use in HIV patients because of its toxicity. 
Simon, when you say "undetectable" do you mean you might draw a negative 
result on an HIV test in the future?   How encouraging and miraculous that 
would be!
Samm


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CS>No Subject

[Kato109]

Sorry guys, more questions.
If I want to make more CS at a time can I just double the amount of water and 
double the time I let it sit? I'm using th Becks silver Pulser and their 
instructions are for 16 ounces and 3-6 ppm at 20 minutes.

Also - would ther be any reason I couldn't use CS in my morning saline nasal 
wash to help try to beat this sinus infection?
Thanks,
Katarina


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Re: CS>Devil in doctor's uniform!

[Silver Surfer]

Hi all,
Here in the UK, I have had several doctors say to my face, If I won't take
anti-viral therapy then they will not have my death on their hands & I
should go else where for my "alternative" treatment!

I always got a laugh when mentioning Colloidal Silver, well that was until
my blood tests showed a huge viral load drop & CD4 count on the up.
Yet both hospitals I visit every three months, still won't test the stuff I
make & they have no interest in discussing CS outside of the doctors office.

While mentioning this to some health advisors, one (of whom was about to
leave his job) blabbed about the bonus the doctors get for starting someone
on anti-viral therapy, with this info I figured my only hope is myself & my
own research.

Thanks to this list & all the helpful info, I have improved my health by at
least 90%, & I hope to be undetectable by next summer.

Just one last note, I've been taking 4 fluid ounces a day (10-15ppm) for
several months now & surprise I'm still not blue or grey :o)

Good health to you all, Simon Caleb - Silver Surfer


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> The pharma-crooks spend about 4K/year/Doc on "promotional materials".
> James Osbourne, Holmes
>
> a...@trail.com
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Re: CS>Successful uses

[Mary]

What is your protocol for yeast infection??

Thanks,

Mary

At 11:31 AM 6/28/99 PST, you wrote:
>Hi again,
>
>I thought that I would share the successes that I've had with CS.  If you
remember, I treated my Lyme's crippled dog with CS and saw complete recovery
within hours.  Friends and co-workers came running for some as word spread,
and I freely distribute it to those who ask for some in exchange for updates
on their miscellaneous uses and recoveries.  Here are those successes noted
since mid-April (all with 20 ppm concentrations):
>
>* Lyme's disease 
>* Various cold sores/fever blisters
>* Herpes (STD) sores
>* Urinary tract infection
>* Jock itch
>* Various colds
>* Sore throat
>* Mild eczema
>* Insect bites
>* Cracked corners of mouth
>* Bleeding gums
>* Deodorant substitute
>* Conjunctivitis
>* Yeast infection


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CS>Doctors' perks

[Liz Pavek]

Most of the "perks" doctors receive are not money but golf trips, expensive 
gifts, freebies on lots of stuff compliments of the company that manufactures 
the particular brand of poison being pushed that month.

Liz

Re: CS>No Subject

[Marshall Dudley]

That is odd.  Purple means that yellow light is being absorbed, and that means
really big particles.  I am surprised they are still in suspension.  No chance
you made CG instead is there, it can be purple.

I would discard it, or use it only for topical.

Marshall

kato...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi and sorry to be asking all these questions, but I want to make sure I am
> doing this right.
>
> The batch of CS which I made yesterday has turned a sort of deep purply color
> overnight. Does that mean it is no good?
>
> Thanks,
> Katarina
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CS>No Subject

[Kato109]

Hi and sorry to be asking all these questions, but I want to make sure I am 
doing this right.

The batch of CS which I made yesterday has turned a sort of deep purply color 
overnight. Does that mean it is no good?

Thanks,
Katarina


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Re: CS>New excited member

[Tchai Mumford]

Marshall,
Thanks for the kind info. Much appreciated.
Will check the sites out.
regards/Tchai
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  Subject: Re: CS>New excited member


  Tchai Mumford wrote: 
  Hello to you all. The medical control council got wind of this and didn't 
like the fact that were jeopardizing the sales of suppressive drugs and have 
insisted that we have the product registered. We will face heavy charges if 
someone becomes ill or even dies whilst taking the product, even if it is 
non-related. We cannot mention that the product can cure, aid or assist any 
problem and have to market it as a miracle water and include all sorts of 
disclaimers, etc, etc. This has really slowed down sales as we are too worried 
to market the product in case we should be charged with selling an 
un-registered product. To register the product it will cost almost 1 million 
Rand (USD 155,000-00) and take 2-3 years - can you believe it. I have been onto 
the FDA to see what tests have been done on the product and looks like you have 
the same problem there. I can't understand why such a product has to be 
surpressed. Perhaps we should protest to get this product know world-wide. It 
is said that the side effects are grey/bluing of the skin. 
This is pure fantasy.  It is the equivalent of saying that nitrogen (80% of 
air) will kill you becaue hydrogen cyanide (HCN) will kill you.  Yes silver 
compounds can do that, but pure silver cannot.  It is the only lie they can 
come up with to even comes close to sounding true. 

I have been on this product for 8 months now and still get dates, so what's 
the problem ??? By the way, there were some reports of diarrhea on first taking 
of the product, but my homeopath (who knows and is in favour of the product) 
advises that it is the body's way of getting rid of the toxins that the CS 
kills. Is this true ?  
Most likely. 
 If anyone can help, please let me have your comments on the following : 1. 
Please could you let me know where I can find ANY information on clinical tests 
that have been done on humans and the results of these tests. 

There is a lot of information on the net.  Try 
http://silver-lightning.com/research3.html for starters. 
 2. Any contact at the FDA that is involved with CS that could assist with 
these tests. 

FDA will not help.  Their job it to prevent people from receiving anything 
that can cure or prevent diseases without drug companies making money off of 
it.  They have suppressed may cures for many diseases, CS is only one of them. 
 3. Any suggestions how I could market the product without making any claim 
to be a medicine. 

In the US it is marketed as a mineral supplement, with no claims about it.  
To do otherwise costs huge amounts of money to get it approved.

  Wish I could be of more help.  If it were not for the FDA I am sure we would 
all be a whole lot heathier. 
  Marshall 

CS>No Subject

[Kato109]

Hi everyone.
I've been using CS in the nasal sprayer for about four days now for my sinus 
infection, but have seen no improvement. I'm also taking MSM to try to 
increase the absorption.
How often should I be spraying my nose and how many sprays? Also, I took 25 
minutes for this last batch  - I guess that means it's about 10 ppm. Should I 
try letting it go for longer?

Thanks,
Katarina


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CS>Successful uses

[dragonfly]

Hi again,

I thought that I would share the successes that I've had with CS.  If you 
remember, I treated my Lyme's crippled dog with CS and saw complete recovery 
within hours.  Friends and co-workers came running for some as word spread, and 
I freely distribute it to those who ask for some in exchange for updates on 
their miscellaneous uses and recoveries.  Here are those successes noted since 
mid-April (all with 20 ppm concentrations):

* Lyme's disease 
* Various cold sores/fever blisters
* Herpes (STD) sores
* Urinary tract infection
* Jock itch
* Various colds
* Sore throat
* Mild eczema
* Insect bites
* Cracked corners of mouth
* Bleeding gums
* Deodorant substitute
* Conjunctivitis
* Yeast infection

I will keep the list updated periodically with any new uses as they become 
known to me.  

Regards,

Dragonfly (aka "medicine man" at work :)


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Re: CS>silver

[Arthur D. Saftlas]

>I need a source for silver electrodes I need them to be sent c.o.d. some
>places will not send c.o.d. they want a credit card. and I stay away from
>all of that.. Thanks and God bless

I found a (local for me) source for 14 gauge 999 silver wire. He wants to
only sell in 10 foot lengths for $25.00 plus any shipping via UPS. I
explained what it's for and how it works, and he was so interested in CS
and thankful that he gave me a foot to get me started. He is Tom Peterson
at Sausalito Precious Metals, Inc., dba Makens PO Box 130 Sausalito, CA
94966. Phone him at 415 332-2744 locally, or toll free 1-800 2MAKENS.

Meditation is to be-of one mind. This is peace of mind.
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Re: CS>New excited member

[Marshall Dudley]

Tchai Mumford wrote:

>   Hello to you all. The medical control council got wind of this and
> didn't like the fact that were jeopardizing the sales of suppressive
> drugs and have insisted that we have the product registered. We will
> face heavy charges if someone becomes ill or even dies whilst taking
> the product, even if it is non-related. We cannot mention that the
> product can cure, aid or assist any problem and have to market it as a
> miracle water and include all sorts of disclaimers, etc, etc. This has
> really slowed down sales as we are too worried to market the product
> in case we should be charged with selling an un-registered product. To
> register the product it will cost almost 1 million Rand (USD
> 155,000-00) and take 2-3 years - can you believe it. I have been onto
> the FDA to see what tests have been done on the product and looks like
> you have the same problem there. I can't understand why such a product
> has to be surpressed. Perhaps we should protest to get this product
> know world-wide. It is said that the side effects are grey/bluing of
> the skin.
>
> This is pure fantasy.  It is the equivalent of saying that nitrogen
> (80% of air) will kill you becaue hydrogen cyanide (HCN) will kill
> you.  Yes silver compounds can do that, but pure silver cannot.  It is
> the only lie they can come up with to even comes close to sounding
> true.
>
> I have been on this product for 8 months now and still get dates, so
> what's the problem ??? By the way, there were some reports of diarrhea
> on first taking of the product, but my homeopath (who knows and is in
> favour of the product) advises that it is the body's way of getting
> rid of the toxins that the CS kills. Is this true ?
> Most likely.
>  If anyone can help, please let me have your comments on the following
> : 1. Please could you let me know where I can find ANY information on
> clinical tests that have been done on humans and the results of these
> tests.
>
> There is a lot of information on the net.  Try
> http://silver-lightning.com/research3.html for starters.
>  2. Any contact at the FDA that is involved with CS that could assist
> with these tests.
>
> FDA will not help.  Their job it to prevent people from receiving
> anything that can cure or prevent diseases without drug companies
> making money off of it.  They have suppressed may cures for many
> diseases, CS is only one of them.
>  3. Any suggestions how I could market the product without making any
> claim to be a medicine.
>
> In the US it is marketed as a mineral supplement, with no claims about
> it.  To do otherwise costs huge amounts of money to get it approved.

Wish I could be of more help.  If it were not for the FDA I am sure we
would all be a whole lot heathier.

Marshall

Re: CS>urination

[Marshall Dudley]

Sound like he might have some irritation, maybe a urinaty tract infection.  I
would try CS mixed with cranberry juice.

Marshall

jfoster wrote:

> No there is not that much volumn when he urinates. Low grade fever is out
> though as his temperature runs on the low side. 96's and 97's
> Thanks   John jfost...@cableone.net
> - Original Message -
> From: Marshall Dudley 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>urination
>
> > Another possiblity is that a low grade fever was causing him to
> continously
> > sweat, and once that went away, with the same amount of liquids being
> drunk, it
> > ends up in the bladder now.
> >
> > I think the real question is whether the urination is due to the bladder
> being
> > full, or if it is irritated.  That is, is there a full load when the urge
> comes
> > on.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
> >
> > > Have you considered that the CS has improved some kidney condition which
> is
> > > causing them to function better?  How does his output compare with
> > > standards?  Was it low before or normal?
> > > James Osbourne, Holmes
> > >
> > > a...@trail.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From:   jfoster [SMTP:jfost...@cableone.net]
> > > Sent:   Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:46 AM
> > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > Subject:CS>urination
> > >
> > > Has anyone noticed that after taking colloidal silver that it increased
> the
> > > urine output drastically, I posted the message about running the voltage
> up
> > > to about 7 ma and giving my father about 6 oz. today he has urinated
> much
> > > more abundantly. The reason for this amount was trying to get a handle
> on
> > > things as he has come down with osteomalitis and has a Dr.s appointment
> > > monday. I know if we cannot get a handle on it I.V. antibiotics will be
> > > administered over a period of 6 weeks. Was just wondering about the
> > > urination though
> > > Thanks   John jfost...@cableone.net
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CS>Crohns Disease

[dragonfly]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any sucess stories or treatment recommendations for CS and 
Crohn's Disease?  A friend wants to treat her son, but I don't know if it will 
work.  It's not viral, bacterial, or fungal in nature (that they know of:), but 
I think that it will help the lower GI inflamatation associated with the 
disease.

Any help is greatly apreciated, and I'll pass along any results.

Thanks,

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Re: CS>God in the doctor's office - Bllood testing

[allen . leitner]

>What a terrible doctor.  I don't think I would even go to
>the guy he called. Maybe you can find someone else who has
>never heard of this guy. This is sad but true.  Once you
>are "labeled"by a group, there will be nothing for you.
>I am so sorry.  But in order to get what you want it
>might be a good idea to just say non-threatening things
>that will prompt them to do these tests as if it was their
>Idea.  It is sad to have to do this.

Sad indeed. Just sidestep them.

If it's blood testing you want there are independent outfits
that will do that now. Here is one that is inexpensive.

Econolab Testing 
   Low cost blood testing handled through Quest Diagnostics
   SUPER-ECONO I (Whole spectrum of tests: $40),
   SUPER-ECONO III (same as I but with T3, T4 and T7: $55),
   THYROID SCREEN (T7 and TSH: $60)
   (800)840-5522

They operate through Quest Labs and if you call the number
above they will find a site for you in your state (and hopefully
city) then they will set it up for you and everything. They
have a whole range of tests and you don't need a perscription
to get any of them. They are nice people as well and helpful.
NCI.

Your friend in Christ,

Allan



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Re: cs/vaccines-lyme disease? What about preventing tetanus?

[Kristie Hall]

http://home.sprynet.com/~noshots/index.htm

http://www.holisticmed.com/www/vaccine.html


Some commonly held misconceptions might be alleviated.

A vaccine, even if it did what it is purported to do by the
establishment, will not protect against mutations of the same virus, and

they mutate ALL THE TIME.

No offense intended. I do not mean to sound harsh.
Kristie




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Re: CS>New Member Intro

[jfoster]

Hydrangea root works nicely given with marshmallow root
Thanks   John jfost...@cableone.net
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS>New Member Intro


> CS will kill all pathogens.  I don't think that the stones are caused by
> pathogens, but likely by hard water with lots of calcium.  If you have
hard water
> then give her distilled or bottled spring water.  The present stones may
not
> dissolve, but they should stop forming.  I have heard that there are herbs
and so
> forth that can dissolve the stones, so keep researching.
>
> Marshall
>
> mmili...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone!
> > My name is Melissa. I joined this list so that I can find out
more
> > about CS and how to use it for improving the health of my cat Angel (and
also
> > my own health). I do not much about CS, but have been hearing more and
more
> > about it on the Holisticat email list that I belong to. I am very new to
the
> > whole holistic/natural way of  taking care of my family and my pets.
> > My cat suffers from FUS (feline urological syndrome) which led
to the
> > growth of  calcium oxalate bladder stones. That is the main reason I
sought
> > out holistic websites and email lists. I am looking to find a  BETTER,
more
> > healthy way of treating this and have begun TRYING to feed her a raw
diet.
> > Any advice or information regarding how CS can be beneficial to her
health
> > and to that of my own, would be greatly appreciated : )
> > Thank you for your advice!
> > Melissa
> > mmili...@aol.com
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Re: CS>urination

[jfoster]

No there is not that much volumn when he urinates. Low grade fever is out
though as his temperature runs on the low side. 96's and 97's
Thanks   John jfost...@cableone.net
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: CS>urination


> Another possiblity is that a low grade fever was causing him to
continously
> sweat, and once that went away, with the same amount of liquids being
drunk, it
> ends up in the bladder now.
>
> I think the real question is whether the urination is due to the bladder
being
> full, or if it is irritated.  That is, is there a full load when the urge
comes
> on.
>
> Marshall
>
> James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
>
> > Have you considered that the CS has improved some kidney condition which
is
> > causing them to function better?  How does his output compare with
> > standards?  Was it low before or normal?
> > James Osbourne, Holmes
> >
> > a...@trail.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   jfoster [SMTP:jfost...@cableone.net]
> > Sent:   Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:46 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject:CS>urination
> >
> > Has anyone noticed that after taking colloidal silver that it increased
the
> > urine output drastically, I posted the message about running the voltage
up
> > to about 7 ma and giving my father about 6 oz. today he has urinated
much
> > more abundantly. The reason for this amount was trying to get a handle
on
> > things as he has come down with osteomalitis and has a Dr.s appointment
> > monday. I know if we cannot get a handle on it I.V. antibiotics will be
> > administered over a period of 6 weeks. Was just wondering about the
> > urination though
> > Thanks   John jfost...@cableone.net
> >
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CS>New excited member

[Tchai Mumford]

Hello to you all.
I live in South Africa and we (my dad & I) have been studying the effects and 
workability CS for almost two years. I was surprised (and somewhat relieved) to 
find a group so large who find this product as effective and interesting as we 
do - my thanks to Mike for taking the initiative to set this up. We came across 
CS whilst searching the internet for information on the application of 
electrical impulses and how they may cure disease, particularly cancer.

We have visited almost every site and read almost every source to establish the 
safest and most effective way of producing CS. We initially made a unit (from 
batteries and silver rods) and began taking the solution to see if it was 
really as effective as those made it out to be. Well, WOW ! We gave it to 
everybody & everything (dogs, cats, plants) that was ill or dying with 
unbelievable results. Things went so well that we started to get orders for it, 
but did not have the setup to make high quality CS. The stuff we were making, 
we believed, was around 10ppm and filtering it through coffee filters to take 
some of the heavy particles out. 

After more research and tests with a TDS1 we found that we were  actually 
making 27ppm solution - made sense since the solution was dark yellow in colour 
and as bitter as yuck !!! We put all that down as experience and managed to 
manufacture quality 10ppm CS using a 5 liter container, 27 volts for 10 hours - 
with regular, hourly cleaning of the electrodes. Interesting, though, we had 
the same feedback with 10ppm as with the 27ppm and felt better too since we 
knew we were distributing better quality CS.

We decided that we would have to be more clever and devise a method of 
production that would produce the same quality in less the time, so we 
researched and tested more. We imported a CS production unit from the USA 
(Mike, not sure if I am allowed to mention the name) to see how they did it 
since they were recommended as being the best. This unit gave us 5ppm solution 
in a 5 liter container in 6 hours and measured the ppm at the same time, with 
an auto cutt-off when it hit 5ppm. This helped us greatly. It was not messy, 
did not need to be watched and produced good quality CS (a good thing to have 
whilst producing is a fish pump to circulate the water to prevent slag build-up 
on the electrodes). Something we observed, though, was the 5ppm was not as 
effective as the 10ppm, although we still received very good results.

Now that we felt confident in producing probably the best quality CS we could, 
we looked into marketing the product commercially. As you are all probably 
aware, South Africa has a population of almost 40 million people with massive 
unemployment statistics, scarce medical facilities and therefore the need for 
low priced effective "OTC" medicines that assist with various diseases. We 
approached some of the larger non-pharmaceutical concerns (more like general 
outlets that sell food/provisions from used shipping containers in the 
townships) and gave out samples as a test run to survey the acceptance of the 
product in the market. We were producing 15 liters per day, which were being 
distributed in 100ml bottles. The results were amazing and greatly accepted. We 
had cured cases mainly of stomach complaints, flu/colds, acne, and arthritis 
with reported cures of gout, STD's (2 cases of AIDS - we didn't know why), 
women able to conceive who couldn't before, heart burn and intestinal problems. 
We were happy that we were able to help so many people who couldn't afford to 
see a doctor. Then disaster hit...

The medical control council got wind of this and didn't like the fact that were 
jeopardizing the sales of suppressive drugs and have insisted that we have the 
product registered. We will face heavy charges if someone becomes ill or even 
dies whilst taking the product, even if it is non-related. We cannot mention 
that the product can cure, aid or assist any problem and have to market it as a 
miracle water and include all sorts of disclaimers, etc, etc. This has really 
slowed down sales as we are too worried to market the product in case we should 
be charged with selling an un-registered product. To register the product it 
will cost almost 1 million Rand (USD 155,000-00) and take 2-3 years - can you 
believe it.

I have been onto the FDA to see what tests have been done on the product and 
looks like you have the same problem there. I can't understand why such a 
product has to be surpressed. Perhaps we should protest to get this product 
know world-wide. It is said that the side effects are grey/bluing of the skin. 
I have been on this product for 8 months now and still get dates, so what's the 
problem ??? By the way, there were some reports of diarrhea on first taking of 
the product, but my homeopath (who knows and is in favour of the product) 
advises that it is the body's way of getting rid of the toxins that the CS 
kills. Is this true ?

If

CS>O.T. GENERIC MICROHYDRIN EVALUATIONS

[BROOKS BRADLEY]

To all interested list members.
Some weeks ago I informed we were intending to
obtain a quantity of a generic version of Microhydrin.  Initially, we
encountered some difficulty due to an unfortunate ISP incident
(involving the supplier's web site).  This originated from an erroneous
disclosure that the supplier's web site had been removed by some form of
FCC action.  Later, after further investigation, we discovered this to
be untrue.  Whether nefarious government types were involved or not
we have no way of determining.but events do seem to have been
strange.  My specific apoloigies to Dennis Lipter, for the incorrect
assessment I sent him early-on.
We have conducted some preliminary evaluations with the
Generic substance and the early results are quite promising.  The
material does, indeed, show to be precisely as the supplier represents
it.  It does show to be "microcolloidal silica hydride in a matrix of
magnesium trisilicate nanospheres", plus a limited mix of vitamin
additives and a stabilizer/lubricant"
The early results seem to confirm that this
substance does, in fact, perform similarly to the patented product sold
under the name of Microhydrin.  Our present evaluations are targeted,
primarily, around the red-cell chemistry and efficiences.
Dark-field microscopic examinations, at 10K
magnification, were employed in gathering the visual data.  The
effectivity of the generic product appears to be comparable to that of
the patented Microhydrinat least in our prelilminary
investigations.  Please be advised we have not completed our longer-term
evaluations;  nor have we made, exact, gravimetric comparisons.
However, our general observations do include a prognosis that this
substance promises to be "essentially equal to Microhydrin in
efficacy...and, probably, the same chemically."
 The url for the company from which we obtained the
generic Microhydrin is
http://www.genericvitamins.com/
Our foundation has no connection, professional
or economic, with this company and know nothing about their nature or
operationother than they have been ethical and forthcoming in
answering all of our inquiries.  Their prices are extremely attractive
to us.especially since we use rather copious quantities of the
materials that we evaluate.  (In the quantities we are purchasing, we
are saving 50% in cost).
The material we are using is called NANOHYDRATE and may be
located at the extreme right side of their homepage.
I do hope this information is of use to some of you.
Sincerely.  Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  Our most recent summary examinations of our on-going
geriatric evaluations using Microhydrin, appear to be yielding splendid
resultsmost especially among the volunteers with Chronic Fatigue
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Re: CS for preventing fleas?

[Marshall Dudley]

I believe that is how it would do it, if it does.  But since a tick can survive
a year or so without eating, I don't wee how doing that could cause the tick to
die quickly.  Maybe digestion requires the tick to produce something (an enzyme
maybe), and when the bacteria are dead and disallow disgestion, it looses its
source of energy and dies.

Marshall

Sheila Underhill wrote:

> Maybe it kills gut bacteria in the tick that it needs to digest the blood.
> I'm hypothesizing here, obviously...  I'd like to get more anectodal reports
> on this (either confirming or debunking) because it's possible it's just
> wishful thinking on my Dad's part. But if it's true, it would certainly be
> good for people who live in tick-infested areas to know.
>
> Sheila
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Anthony W. Nettis [mailto:anet...@msn.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:14 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS for preventing fleas?
>
> I don't see why CS would kill a tick - - if anything I would think the tick
> would become healthier from the CS tainted blood!!!
>
> :-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sheila Underhill [mailto:shei...@nyahsa.org]
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:07 AM
> To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
> Subject: RE: CS for preventing fleas?
>
> My dad claims that any ticks he gets while on CS die and fall off! It would
> be great to get confirmation of this from others. Keep us posted.
>
> Sheila
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scharbach [mailto:myf...@mwt.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 9:06 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS for preventing fleas?
>
> Nope, haven't tried it yet, but as of today will start!   Wonder if
> it works on ticks too?
>
> Sparrow
>
> >A friend of mine has started putting CS in her dog's water, and has
> >noticed that her dog has been free of fleas so far this season.  Has
> >any one else had similar experiences with this?
> >
> >Pam
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Re: CS>questions

[Marshall Dudley]

I agree that is another possibility.  Of course it is likely a combination
of the two.

Marshall

Ivan Anderson wrote:

> Todd
> Those black things are loose aggregations of silver molecules or
> crystals. They form on the silver electrodes, generally the cathode
> (negative electrode) which attracts the positively charged silver ions
> released into the water from the anode. Those ions which find
> themselves at the cathode are resupplied with the electron they lost
> at the anode, and loosely adhere to it as elemental silver powder.
> These can be released into the water if disturbed. One can also find a
> fine very dark powder on the anode. This is usually less of a problem,
> and is the silver electrode undergoing dissolution. Sometimes these
> powders will float on top of the water if the electrodes are
> reintroduced to the water after stirring etc.
>
> Ivan.
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Re: CS>New Member Intro

[Marshall Dudley]

CS will kill all pathogens.  I don't think that the stones are caused by
pathogens, but likely by hard water with lots of calcium.  If you have hard 
water
then give her distilled or bottled spring water.  The present stones may not
dissolve, but they should stop forming.  I have heard that there are herbs and 
so
forth that can dissolve the stones, so keep researching.

Marshall

mmili...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> My name is Melissa. I joined this list so that I can find out more
> about CS and how to use it for improving the health of my cat Angel (and also
> my own health). I do not much about CS, but have been hearing more and more
> about it on the Holisticat email list that I belong to. I am very new to the
> whole holistic/natural way of  taking care of my family and my pets.
> My cat suffers from FUS (feline urological syndrome) which led to the
> growth of  calcium oxalate bladder stones. That is the main reason I sought
> out holistic websites and email lists. I am looking to find a  BETTER, more
> healthy way of treating this and have begun TRYING to feed her a raw diet.
> Any advice or information regarding how CS can be beneficial to her health
> and to that of my own, would be greatly appreciated : )
> Thank you for your advice!
> Melissa
> mmili...@aol.com
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Re: CS>questions

[Marshall Dudley]

Ivan Anderson wrote:

> Just a thought John,
> I would be inclined to use CS with MSM, or CS alone. I fear that the
> aloe and glycerine may interfere with the absorption and effectiveness
> of the CS, especially as MSM will generally transport anything into
> the dermal layers and beyond.

CS and aloe vera is an excellent combination to use on skin conditions.  I
have seen it applied to acne that would not respond to any of the doctor's
treatments, and clear up in 24 to 48 hours.

The CS kills  the pathogens.  The aloe vera also kills some pathogens, but
primarily supplies every amino acid needed to build tissue.  I believe that
one reason it so helps in healing is that often the tissue that is injured
is getting almost no blood, so it doesn't have the nutrients necessary for
the cells to divide.  But with aloe vera the nutrients are applied directly,
and can thus supply what is needed for division.  On top of that the silver,
according to Becker and others, allows injured cells to revert back to stem
(undiffferentiated cells), that can then become anything.  Thus the injured
tissue can quickly make the necessary blood cells to feed it when CS plus
aloe vera are used in combination.

Marshall


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RE: CS>God in the doctor's office

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

The pharma-crooks spend about 4K/year/Doc on "promotional materials".  
James Osbourne, Holmes

a...@trail.com

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Sent:   Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>God in the doctor's office


>They must get kickbacks.  I was on Paxil (similar to Prozac) until I read 
>Dr. Peter Breggin's book, "Talking Back to Prozac."

I read they DO get a kick back for every prescription.


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Re: CS>God in the doctor's office

[Marshall Dudley]

Mary wrote:

> >They must get kickbacks.  I was on Paxil (similar to Prozac) until I read
> >Dr. Peter Breggin's book, "Talking Back to Prozac."
>
> I read they DO get a kick back for every prescription.

That should be illegal.  The reason why doctors write prescriptions, and
pharmacists fill them is to remove the incentive for a doctor to prescribe
medicine just to make more money (but they can, and do do it with tests) :<

If they get a kick back, then that is essentially the same thing.

Marshall



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Re: CS>The internet

[Marshall Dudley]

Vilik Rapheles wrote:

>   Your chances have to do with your beliefs, your spirit, and who and what
> you are today. You have broken out the "sheep" medical system. You have an
> exploring mind, and clearly a deep desire for wellness. You have a lot
> going for you.
>
>   Statistics always lie. Don't believe them (unless they work for you!)
> Believe in your own life force. Find the things that work for you. Laugh
> and love and play, be good to your body, feed your spirit, exercise your
> intellect, and you will be WAY ahead of any ol' bummer stats.

Amen!!!

Marshall


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Re: CS>urination

[Marshall Dudley]

Another possiblity is that a low grade fever was causing him to continously
sweat, and once that went away, with the same amount of liquids being drunk, it
ends up in the bladder now.

I think the real question is whether the urination is due to the bladder being
full, or if it is irritated.  That is, is there a full load when the urge comes
on.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

> Have you considered that the CS has improved some kidney condition which is
> causing them to function better?  How does his output compare with
> standards?  Was it low before or normal?
> James Osbourne, Holmes
>
> a...@trail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   jfoster [SMTP:jfost...@cableone.net]
> Sent:   Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:46 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:CS>urination
>
> Has anyone noticed that after taking colloidal silver that it increased the
> urine output drastically, I posted the message about running the voltage up
> to about 7 ma and giving my father about 6 oz. today he has urinated much
> more abundantly. The reason for this amount was trying to get a handle on
> things as he has come down with osteomalitis and has a Dr.s appointment
> monday. I know if we cannot get a handle on it I.V. antibiotics will be
> administered over a period of 6 weeks. Was just wondering about the
> urination though
> Thanks   John jfost...@cableone.net
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RE: CS for preventing fleas?

[Sheila Underhill]

Maybe it kills gut bacteria in the tick that it needs to digest the blood.
I'm hypothesizing here, obviously...  I'd like to get more anectodal reports
on this (either confirming or debunking) because it's possible it's just
wishful thinking on my Dad's part. But if it's true, it would certainly be
good for people who live in tick-infested areas to know.

Sheila 

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Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:14 AM
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Subject: RE: CS for preventing fleas?


I don't see why CS would kill a tick - - if anything I would think the tick
would become healthier from the CS tainted blood!!!

:-)

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Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:07 AM
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
Subject: RE: CS for preventing fleas?


My dad claims that any ticks he gets while on CS die and fall off! It would
be great to get confirmation of this from others. Keep us posted.

Sheila

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Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 9:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS for preventing fleas?


Nope, haven't tried it yet, but as of today will start!   Wonder if
it works on ticks too?


Sparrow

>A friend of mine has started putting CS in her dog's water, and has
>noticed that her dog has been free of fleas so far this season.  Has
>any one else had similar experiences with this?
>
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RE: CS>RE:CS nasal spray - where can I buy some?

[Sheila Underhill]

Thanks Sharon, I went to their website & found it and ordered some. Gee, you
would think their sales people would be a bit better at finding products...

Sheila 

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Subject: Re: CS>RE:CS nasal spray - where can I buy some?


>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know where I could order CS nasal spray off the net or an 800
>number? I just tried the Vitamin Shoppe, & they have discontinued it.
>Thanks
>
>Sheila


I had gotten it from them no more than a month or so ago. Do you have one
of their catalogs? They carry so many different brands that it can be a
real chore to look through it. That's why one time I called to see how many
different brands of chlorophyll they had, wanting to compare prices. She
spent some time looking for it then claimed they didn't carry it. Come to
find out she wasn't spelling it right. She didn't realize that it started
with "CH". She thought it started with "CL". If you're looking under Source
Naturals, don't look under the "C" for Colloidal or the "S" for Silver.
Look under Source Naturals and then under the "W" for Wellness. It used to
be called "Ultra" but I don't think it is anymore. It's expensive though. 2
oz for around $15. I bought it for the nifty little sprayer. Never seen one
quite like it. I use the stuff then refill it with my own.

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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold }}}}}}}}}}}}}

[Michael Anthony]

I think CG is worth a try since it is non toxic and it might help in
some way whatever needs to be helped. It has been used for arthritic
pain, brain problems, and obesity to name a few.

I get mine from http://www.full-life-inc.com/gold.htm
It is 500 ppm and a bottle lasts me about a month.

Michael


Larry wrote:
> 
> So, who makes colloidal gold?
> what is it good for?
> Would it be a good thing to drink just for nutrients?
> 
> It sounds good.
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CS>New Member Intro

[MMilian3]

Hi everyone!
My name is Melissa. I joined this list so that I can find out more 
about CS and how to use it for improving the health of my cat Angel (and also 
my own health). I do not much about CS, but have been hearing more and more 
about it on the Holisticat email list that I belong to. I am very new to the 
whole holistic/natural way of  taking care of my family and my pets.
My cat suffers from FUS (feline urological syndrome) which led to the 
growth of  calcium oxalate bladder stones. That is the main reason I sought 
out holistic websites and email lists. I am looking to find a  BETTER, more 
healthy way of treating this and have begun TRYING to feed her a raw diet. 
Any advice or information regarding how CS can be beneficial to her health 
and to that of my own, would be greatly appreciated : )
Thank you for your advice!
Melissa 
mmili...@aol.com


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Re: CS>silver

[tj garland]

Go to any coin shop and buy 2- 99.9 silver coins  or 1 oz. bars. They will
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CS>silver

[Tim Lunsford]

I need a source for silver electrodes I need them to be sent c.o.d. some
places will not send c.o.d. they want a credit card. and I stay away from
all of that.. Thanks and God bless


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