CSCold Fusion
A letter to the editor in today's newspaper (Daily Yomiuri) mentioned a recent success in room-temperature fusion somewhere in California. I wonder whether that's correct; seems it would be big news if so. A quick Google did not turn up anything definitive; if anyone knows of something new I would be glad to hear. Thanks in advance; I know some members follow this topic closely. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMultimeter usefulness
So long as the elecrodes are always the same size and distance apart and parallel, an ammeter will get repeatability between batches. Deduct starting current [highly variable depending on water quality] from desired ending current. That alone won't say much about what the PPM is, just that it's nearly the same from batch to batch. Ode At 07:37 PM 7/1/2005 -0700, you wrote: How useful is a multimeter in relation to the silver concentration? For ex. a cheap yellow one? I have been checking in on this great list as long as I have been making and using the Silver Brew and do not recall seeing this addressed directly. It seems obvious that it has, so forgive the redundancy if so. I should have inquired long ago as I have been using one since I started making my own a couple of years ago, and use it with time, solution color, electrode fuzziness, laser pointer light, and the state of my active inventory, along with intuition, stages of the moon, and reading my tea leaves in urine. So you see I have such a wide array of inaccurate measures I assume that the sum or average of these absolutely obligates perfection. --- Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: ---Max Sanders wrote--- I have 2 daughters in Costa Rica (tropics) and one especially is prone to these infections. Does anyone have a suggestion for a cranberry substitute that may be available in Costa Rica/tropics? They have CS in limited quantity and use it as well as GSE. Maz Here is a list of herbs for Cystitis from Energetics of Western Herbs, Peter Holmes- Agrimony Bearberry Birch Blackberry Caraway seed Celery seed Chicory Cleavers Grapevine Lavender oil Meadowsweet Melilot Mint Parsley seed Pasque flower Pipsissewa Ribwort plantain Rosemary Sarsaparilla Shepherd's purse Thyme oil Veronica Wood Betony Also a formula for Kidney Cleanse Detox Tea- In blender put equal amounts of: Ground Juniper berries Cornsilk Uva Ursi leaves Parsley root and leaf Carrot tops Dandelion leaf Horsetail herbs Goldenrod flower tops Orange peel Peppermint leaf Hydrangea root Gravel root Marshmallow root Blend and use to make detox tea. Store in glass jar out of light. Dosage: 2 cups of the tea consumed 15 minutes after doing your Liver/Gall Bladder Flush. It can also be drunk at any other time during the day, as many cups as desired. Put 1 tablespoon (medium) or 2 tablespoons (strong) of this tea into 20 ounces of distilled water. Be sure to use only stainless steel or glass cookware. Let the tea sit in the water overnight. In the morning heat up to a boil, reduce heat and let simmer for 15 minutes. Strain the herbs, do not discard them, let cool a bit but use hot. Put the used herbs back into the pot, add 1 tablespoon of fresh herbs and 20 ounces of pure water. Let sit overnight and repeat whole process again. Keep adding new herbs to old ones for three days, then discard all herbs and start over. Hope this helps,I don't know if they are available in Costa Rica, there would be a similar list of tropical plants that would work. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
CSsilver to whiten teeth?
hello guys, i think i'm going to order the ionic white teeth whitening system, as soon as i get some more info from the vendor... but in reading about it, this caught my eye and i thought it was odd and wonder if it makes sense to any of y'all ? What is Ionic about Ionic white? The gel contains silver ions which activate when exposed to the harmless blue led light. The silver ions cause the active bleaching how could silver ions have any whitening effect combined with any kind of light? what do you think? angel
CS
frank? anybody? nobody seemed to react to these statements posted here. excpet me, that is ! did you all miss it or are you just tired of dealing with it? i'm very concerned by it because the quantities identified by the epa (not that i hold them in higher esteem than the skunk in my yard !) and my daily consumption converted from 20ppms/8oz to mg are like 1500% different ! hard for me to imagine that the epa could really be that much off ! and i'm thinking that maybe the conversion equasion was wrong. could somebody help please? below is my original post thanks, angel - Original Message - From: angel nest To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: silver toxicity / Frank again But Frank... I think I might be in trouble What about this statement in one of Michael's emails... The US-EPA publishes an oral reference dose (RfD) that is based on a threshold for certain toxic effects such as cellular necrosis. In units of micrograms per kg per day and is an estimate of the maximum amount of daily silver exposure that is not associated with any deleterious effects over a lifetime. Current RfD for oral silver exposure is 5 micrograms per kg per day. An average (european) 70 kg man: = 350 µg/day That means that my 4.8mg-4800mcg daily is about 1500% more than the safe daily dose !! I'm about 50kg ~105lbs, so I should only be consuming 250mcg, right ??? Or am I missing something ??? Thanks again, Angel From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL Angel To convert part per million (by weight) into miligrams in 8 oz. do the following: One fluid oz.of CS equals about 30 grams. 8 oz. of CS is therefore 240 grams in which you have 20 ppm. The grams of silver contained in your 8 oz, 20x240/100=0.0048 gr or 4.8 miligrams. This asumes that the specific gravity of a ppm CS dispersion is 1.00. Hope it hels Frank Cuns-Ria
Re: CS
Consider that the RFD is for silver in any form and RFDs are highly conservative numbers that include 70+ years of constant exposure. Consider also that elimination rate is somewhere around 94% in 48 hours. 'Retention' is key. 8 oz a day at 20 PPM is considered a theraputic dose, not a preventative dose which would normally be a couple of tablespoons a day. Prevention is not 100% at any dose. Still, the FDA has no record of harm from EIS at any dose over any duration and there are many people who have dramatically exceeded your rate of intake for years at a time. But It never hurts to take time off, no matter what you're doing...unless there's some overpowering reason not to. Better blue than dead? [That would be taking things to the extreme] The real issue is, what's the minimum required to live well? Ode At 05:11 AM 7/4/2005 -0500, you wrote: Hi angelnest. Your calculations are correct. I do not know about the accuracy of the thresholds used in Europe. I personally think that 8 oz a day of 20 ppm CS for a lifetime is an absurd requirement. You might need to take 8 oz a day for a few days to deal with a critical condition, but a lifetime..? I take one ounce of 5 ppm a day divided in several doses, when I need it. I do not know of any therapeutic preventive value of CS but if so I would never take 8 oz a day. Regards Frank - Original Message - From: mailto:angelzn...@hotmail.com>angel nest To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:50 PM Subject: CS> But Frank... I think I might be in trouble What about this statement in one of Michael's emails... >>>The US-EPA publishes an oral reference dose (RfD) that is based on a threshold for certain toxic effects such as cellular necrosis. In units of micrograms per kg per day and is an estimate of the maximum amount of daily silver exposure that is not associated with any deleterious effects over a lifetime. Current RfD for oral silver exposure is 5 micrograms per kg per day. An average (european) 70 kg man: = 350 µg/day>>> That means that my 4.8mg-4800mcg daily is about 1500% more than the safe daily dose !! I'm about 50kg ~105lbs, so I should only be consuming 250mcg, right ??? Or am I missing something ??? Thanks again, Angel From: mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net>FRANK CUNS-RIAL Angel To convert part per million (by weight) into miligrams in 8 oz. do the following: One fluid oz.of CS equals about 30 grams. 8 oz. of CS is therefore 240 grams in which you have 20 ppm. The grams of silver contained in your 8 oz, 20x240/100=0.0048 gr or 4.8 miligrams. This asumes that the specific gravity of a ppm CS dispersion is 1.00. Hope it hels Frank Cuns-Ria No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2005 #421
A, perfecto! Please send the artwork to Overnight Labels with a copy to me. Nice work John! Frank Key -Original Message- From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:44 AM To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #421 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnetized Water
Put a straight one on a piece of wood and float it in a bowl of water. In the Northern Hemisphere, the North Pole will swing North and repel any other North Pole of any other magnet. [I might have that backwards, but that's the idea] Or..put the magnet end near a compass. Ode At 08:04 PM 7/4/2005 +, you wrote: In a magnet ,how can one tell which side is north??? -- Original message from Andy Gill pol_h...@yahoo.com>: -- I wanted to run something by the brain trust on the silver-list. I recently read an email newsletter (http://www.jonbarron.org/documents/water.htm>http://www.jonbarron.org/documents/water.htm) by Jon Barron on Water. In this a newsletter he talks about improving the bio-availability of water by magnetizing it. He also shows a low cost way to do it yourself (appealling to us alternative health mavericks). I have begun to make my own magnetized water and as Jon wrote (see excerpts below) the water IS noticably different wetter?. My questions are: 1. If the magnetizing does indeed improve bioavailability, could it improve the uptake (bioavailability) of CS therefore enhancing its effects? 2. Which would be a better: Use magnetized water to make CS or make CS and then magnetize? 3. Could the magnetizing of CS impair, neutralize or lessen its effects? Thanks, Andy Gill Magnetizing your drinking water breaks its surface tension, making it wetter and more useable by every cell in your body. In addition, there's a strong secondary benefit. Applying a magnetic field to water cannot only make it wetter, but it can also raise its pH (up to a full point, depending on the water).. The difference is not subtle. Over the past couple of years, Kristen and I have had at least 100 people over our house who have taste tested the water. First they take a drink of the water that comes from our filter. Then they taste the same water that has been magnetized. NOT ONE of those 100 has failed to notice the difference. The standard comment is, It tastes wetter. The difference is that pronounced! Small cluster (magnetized) water significantly enhances your body's ability to absorb nutrients (including all of the vitamins and minerals). And it also aids remarkably in any detoxification programs you run. (As a side note, it also makes any prescription drugs you take more effective for the very same reasons -- something to keep in mind if you use such things.) Excepts from Water by Jon Barron -- Yahoo! Sports http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=33539/*http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com?ovchn=YAHovcpn=Integrationovcrn=Mail+footerovrfd=YAHovtac=AD>Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
Re: CSMagnetized Water
I rather doubt that a magnetic field will change the number of electrons on a nucleus. It would have to add at least 2 electrons to change the ionic charge of a silver ion. Adding one makes a metallic particle with no ionic charge. Having a free electron running about in water is, like, impossible? [It takes some doing to get an electron to transverse a vaccuum...as an electron.] All the 'scientific' studies I have read concerning 'aligning' water molecules with magnetics indicate that the effect vanishes within nanoseconds after removing the field. On the other hand... Studies done on 'healing hands' indicate that there is some sort of magnetic effect and that 'power of intent' can maintain that effect..or counter it...or destroy it. So, if you do see a lasting difference, it might not be that brief exposure to the 'magnet' causing it to stay around, but some 'nonlocal' consciousness directed property of magnetic fields in general. 'Free' silver ions don't last long in EIS [CS]. They do find anions. Also, never underestimate the power of suggestion where opinions are concerned. Con-vinced is still conned. [not placing bad connotations on the word 'conned'. Con-fidence is a state of mind proven valid by its application.] Selective perception just might be the greatest..and most unavoidable.. power there is. Fact may just turn out to be a relative absence of dissent and science, a means to garner agreement. Ode At 08:30 PM 7/4/2005, you wrote: In my experience with magnetics I don't see a problem using magnetized water to make ionic colloidal silver, however to expose ionic cs to a magnetic field would disturb the electrical charge in the charged particles in the solution that are drawn to the opposite polarity in an organismBill -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
Re: CSMagnetized Water
In the first case, I got a dull blue/gray colloidal gold which tended to have some precipitate which fell out over a period of a few days. Another batch was made the same except that I attached four strong magnets to the outside of the glass jar holding the water while making the CG. The magnets all had the north pole side facing in toward the center of the jar. This one produced CG which was a brilliant amethyst color and which has not produced any precipitate over a 6 month period. ## And there were no other variables? Try it again a few hundred times running concurrent batches both with and without magnets while eliminating any other differences. Then see if you get the same results with a prayer group instead of magnets or lack of magnets and/or group. [ode] Putting the magnets on a blue/gray batch after it was produced did not make a difference that I was able to detect by visual observation. Dan *** CSMagnetized Water * From: Andy Gill wrote: * Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:18:26 I wanted to run something by the brain trust on the silver-list. I recently read an email newsletter (http://www.jonbarron.org/documents/water.htm) by Jon Barron on Water. In this a newsletter he talks about improving the bio-availability of water by magnetizing it. He also shows a low cost way to do it yourself (appealling to us alternative health mavericks). I have begun to make my own magnetized water and as Jon wrote (see excerpts below) the water IS noticably different wetter?. My questions are: 1. If the magnetizing does indeed improve bioavailability, could it improve the uptake (bioavailability) of CS therefore enhancing its effects? 2. Which would be a better: Use magnetized water to make CS or make CS and then magnetize? 3. Could the magnetizing of CS impair, neutralize or lessen its effects? Thanks, Andy Gill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
CScodex question
hi list, when i posted my codex question forgot to do the subject line...i made it yesterday. would anyone in the know please comment on the states rights thing in relation to codex... i look to the insight of this list to collect opinions on if that would work to keep our supplements. i have a friend in calif who is not worried about codex at all. she would mention states laws but did not go into the detail of this post i found elsewhere... comments PLEASE. a rose... ps...i googled hilary...pretty damming stuff on reincarnation...jk. don't worry about it hilary...on the same page mike is talking about conspiracies and free energy...i think they will come for him first *wink*.
CShelp for a sty and also regarding CODEX
Does anyone have any suggestions for getting rid of a sty in the eye? I have been taking a half a teaspoon of the CS twice a day. Would you also dilute it and put it directly on the sty? Does anyone have any other thoughts or solultions? Also want to say that the situation regarding CODEX is looking pretty grim. I hope everyone is contacting their representative in Congress to protest CAFTA. Please become informed if you haven't already. It should be coming out for a vote July 11th in the House. In addition to ushering in CODEX guidlines and making them mandatory, I am also fearful of what powers and protection it is going to grant the GMO producers. Read,- seedsof deception.com for more information about genetically modified food ingredients if you think you can stomach it. Thanks everybody, Paula No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/05
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- Original Message - From: IAHF.COM j...@iahf.com To: p...@zoomnet.net Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: CRN CALLED PATHOLOGICAL LIARS RE CODEX OUTCOME- WHAT THEY'RE NOT TELLING US WHAT WE MUST DO IAHF Webmaster: Codex Emergency, Breaking News, Whats New, What to Do IAHF List: A Mannatech distributor just sent me the following outrageous press release from the Council for Responsible Nutrition which Mannatech is a member of despite this being a total conflict of interest. (Mannatech's membership includes Monsanto, Wyeth, Pfizer, Bayer, BASF, Cargill and numerous other huge pharma interests.) John Hathcock and Mark LeDoux at CRN are pathological liars from HELL. CRN's LATEST MISLEADING PRESS RELEASE ON CODEX IAHF's RESPONSE Here is their latest grossly misleading press release in the aftermath of the July 4th Codex meeting and IAHF's analysis of it, along with instructions on what we must do to defend health freedom which CRN is hell bent on DESTROYING: Council for Responsible Nutrition Press Release Contact: Judy Blatman at 202-204-7962 CODEX ALIMENTARIUS COMMISSION ADOPTS VITAMIN AND MINERAL FOOD SUPPLEMENT GUIDELINE -Consumers, Manufacturers Will Benefit- ROME, July 5, 2005 - The Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) yesterday declared vitamin independence worldwide from arbitrarily-set standards for supplement upper levels by approving and adopting the Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplement Guideline during the meeting of the CAC in Rome. The result of a multi-year effort led in part by the Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), one of the leading trade associations for the dietary supplement industry, adoption of the guideline means the acceptance of science as a rational approach, the freedom of trade for the industry, and the increased freedom of choice for the public. The guideline specifies that maximum levels for vitamins and minerals in supplement products in international trade are to be set on the basis of safety evaluation through risk assessment, and not on the basis of recommended dietary allowances (RDA). The population reference intakes (PRI) and RDAs are based on nutritional need, and are not scientifically valid for assessing safety and setting maximums. CRN's analysis is that the guideline should improve the international market for U.S.-made products, and contrary to the notions of some alarmists, the guideline cannot override DSHEA for U.S. domestic policy. CRN's Chair of the International Trade and Market Development Committee, Mark LeDoux, noted, What we now have is a pathway to expand global access for consumers of dietary supplements that is predicated on science. Our next steps will be to secure upper level guidelines that will assure safe and adequate outcomes for consumers and that are determined in an open and transparent process. -EXPOSE OF THE _LIES_ CONTAINED IN THIS EVIL PRESS RELEASE: CRN would have us believe that the risk assessment being done by the World Health Organization and CODEX is scientific and an improvement on RDAs. What CRN is NOT TELLING YOU is that the so called Safe Upper Levels generated by the US National Academy of Sciences aren't the END POINT for this risk assessment, they're only a BEGINNING POINT. American manufacturers easily buy in to what they want to hear, and its not hard for them to buy into the LIE thats being foisted off on them because the National Academy of Sciences SULs aren't much different from what American companies are currently allowed to sell as far as vitamin potencies go. SO. WHAT _ISN'T_ CRN TELLING US? What CRN isn't telling us is that the fine print at Codex calls for these SULs to be further watered down by subtracting JUNK SCIENCE derived so called Nutrient Risk Factors and additional JUNK SCIENCE DERIVED numbers extrapolated from a mythical Average Diet that doesn't exist in real life. What they're not telling you is that ONLY the German Federal Institute of Risk Assessment (BfR in German) has done the full MATH required by Codex or that this entity is chaired by Dr.Rolf Grossklaus, the German Chair of the Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses (the person in charge of FILLING IN THE BLANKS on allowable potencies for vitamins and minerals this coming November when CCNFSDU meets next in Bonn, Germany (!!!) Check it out: Grossklaus's Maximum Safe Permitted Levels are even LOWER than RDAs in many cases: http://www.alliance-natural-health.org/_Docs/ANHWebsiteDoc_145.doc The Alliance for Natural Health generated a White Paper which they submitted to the World Health Organization which totally exposes the gross LACK OF SCIENCE in what the WHO's Nutrient Risk Assessment Project, pointing out that WHO is only looking at the presumed risks posed by dietary supplements, and they're NOT looking at BENEFITS at ALL (!!!) This White Paper has been signed off on by a slew of orthomolecular MDs and preimminent
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- Original Message - From: newslet...@knowledgeofhealth.com To: p...@zoomnet.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Contact House of Representatives to stop CODEX (CAFTA) Dietary Supplement Freedom Fighters, wherever you are, there is only one week to oppose CODEX in the House of Representatives While everyone is distracted on a Holiday weekend, and away on vacations, and while vitamin supplement advocates are monitoring events in Rome (CODEX meeting), legislation pending before Congress (CAFTA) would essentially make CODEX restrictions on vitamin and mineral supplements binding as US law via the CAFTA trade agreement. The Senate has already passed CAFTA, so you must contact the US House of Representatives to oppose CAFTA, in order to stop CODEX. the National Health Federation has the right information NATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION A NOT-FOR-PROFIT HEALTH ORGANIZATION July 2, 2005 URGENT ALERT ACT NOW YOUR HEALTH FREEDOM IS BEING THREATENED CAFTA VOTE - 1 WEEK AWAY WE MUST NOT ALLOW CAFTA AND CODEX TO OVERRIDE DSHEA The Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) Treaty will require the U.S., a member of the World Trade Organization, to revise our food laws and regulations based on Codex decisions. CAFTA would force harmonization of our dietary supplements and regulations to international standards, overriding the DSHEA Act of 1994. The Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) and the even-broader Free Trade Agreement of the Americas (FTAA) are both modelled after the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). These agreements are typical bureaucratic monstrosities of managed trade that masquerade as free trade and would expand NAFTA to include first Central America and then the rest of the Americas in an economic union. True free trade would take a few pages of written text to enact (eliminate these barriers to trade and these tariffs, etc.); all three of these agreements encompass thousands of pages of bureaucratic textual garbage sprinkled liberally with rules, regulations, and special-interest benefits. Buried in the language of CAFTA is Section 6 that would require of all its members that they form a Sanitary and Phyto-Sanitary (SPS) committee for the purpose of insuring ongoing harmonization under the terms of the SPS Agreement in the World Trade Organization (WTO). You can find that text at the following website: http://www.ustr.gov/Trade_Agreements/Bilateral/CAFTA/CAFTA-DR_Final_Texts/Section_Index.html. If you then look at Article 3 of the WTO's SPS Agreement, you will read the following words: To harmonize sanitary and phytosanitary measures on as wide a basis as possible, Members shall base their food safety measures on international standards, guidelines or recommendations. (emphasis added) And as you all know by now, Codex sets the international standards for food safety including vitamins minerals. So, CAFTA, which is set for a vote in the House of Representatives when they reconvene July 11th, 2005, is another critical link by which health-freedom haters hope to bypass the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 and obligate the United States and Canada by treaty to harmonize to the harshly restrictive Codex vitamin-and-mineral standards. They cannot be allowed to succeed, and we at the NHF completely oppose these two treaties that would put a knife in the back of our health freedoms. * ~CAFTA has already passed the Senate in a 54 to 45 vote on July 1st, 2005. ~Legislators have just recessed for one week, reconvening July 11, 2005. ~IMPORTANT- For House consideration, when they return, the Senate Bill 1307 (click here to view bill), ratifying CAFTA, can be voted on without going to committee. It is on the House calendar and may be brought up at any time. * ONLY ONE WEEK TO ACT. CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. URGE THEM TO VOTE AGAINST CAFTA NOW. YOUR LETTERS WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THE VOTING IN THE HOUSE WILL BE CLOSE. WE HAVE ONE WEEK TO FLOOD THEIR OFFICES WITH CAFTA OPPOSITION LETTERS. PLEASE JOIN IN THIS EFFORT AND CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. Contact any member of the House of Representatives via http://www.house.gov/writerep/ Click here for Petition Opposition Letter. P.O. Box 688, Monrovia, CA 91017 USA ~ 1 (626) 357-2181 ~ Fax 1 (626) 303-0642 Website: www.thenhf.com E-mail: contact...@thenhf.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/05 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/05
Re: CScodex question
- Original Message - From: rose To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: CScodex question hi list, when i posted my codex question forgot to do the subject line...i made it yesterday. would anyone in the know please comment on the states rights thing in relation to codex... i look to the insight of this list to collect opinions on if that would work to keep our supplements. i have a friend in calif who is not worried about codex at all. she would mention states laws but did not go into the detail of this post i found elsewhere... comments PLEASE. a rose... == Rose, We know that what the Federal government is doing is illegal. But that doesn't stop them. They make unconstitutional laws and since so many people are asleep, they acquiese and then it's a done deal! There are TONS of laws on the books that are illegal but they are enforced. This is why I think it's so important to fight on as many fronts as we can. Just my opinion... Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCold Fusion
I am not sure why it would be big news, none of the other hundreds of successes over the last 15 years ever became newsworthy. Marshall Jonathan B. Britten wrote: A letter to the editor in today's newspaper (Daily Yomiuri) mentioned a recent success in room-temperature fusion somewhere in California. I wonder whether that's correct; seems it would be big news if so. A quick Google did not turn up anything definitive; if anyone knows of something new I would be glad to hear. Thanks in advance; I know some members follow this topic closely. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CODEX / how to contact your CONGRESSPERSON
- Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: CShelp for a sty and also regarding CODEX ...Also want to say that the situation regarding CODEX is looking pretty grim. I hope everyone is contacting their representative in Congress to protest CAFTA. Please become informed if you haven't already. It should be coming out for a vote July 11th in the House. === To find out who your Congressmember is and to send a message to him/her, go to: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp for a sty
Dear Paula, Mine went away with straight CS applied to the sty, and about 1/3 cup taken internally a day as a preventive. It worked just fine! BTW, 1/2 teaspoon won`t do much, if that is all you swallow... (Mine is home made, about 18 PPM CS.) Marshalee Does anyone have any suggestions for getting rid of a sty in the eye? I have been taking a half a teaspoon of the CS twice a day. Would you also dilute it and put it directly on the sty? Does anyone have any other thoughts or solultions? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMultimeter usefulness
You guys are great as usual, thank you. So I was after a simple way to measure or estimate or even compare my end result. Previously I was holding the electrodes the same distance apart and placing them in the brew getting a reading of ohms to help decide the brew readiness. I would take from 20-50 ohms with a clear batch and a bit of fuzz forming to give it the thumbs up and consider it good and ready. Would measuring current be better (or both) for making that kind of crude determination? --- Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: So long as the elecrodes are always the same size and distance apart and parallel, an ammeter will get repeatability between batches. Deduct starting current [highly variable depending on water quality] from desired ending current. That alone won't say much about what the PPM is, just that it's nearly the same from batch to batch. Ode At 07:37 PM 7/1/2005 -0700, you wrote: How useful is a multimeter in relation to the silver concentration? For ex. a cheap yellow one? I have been checking in on this great list as long as I have been making and using the Silver Brew and do not recall seeing this addressed directly. It seems obvious that it has, so forgive the redundancy if so. I should have inquired long ago as I have been using one since I started making my own a couple of years ago, and use it with time, solution color, electrode fuzziness, laser pointer light, and the state of my active inventory, along with intuition, stages of the moon, and reading my tea leaves in urine. So you see I have such a wide array of inaccurate measures I assume that the sum or average of these absolutely obligates perfection. --- Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: ---Max Sanders wrote--- I have 2 daughters in Costa Rica (tropics) and one especially is prone to these infections. Does anyone have a suggestion for a cranberry substitute that may be available in Costa Rica/tropics? They have CS in limited quantity and use it as well as GSE. Maz Here is a list of herbs for Cystitis from Energetics of Western Herbs, Peter Holmes- Agrimony Bearberry Birch Blackberry Caraway seed Celery seed Chicory Cleavers Grapevine Lavender oil Meadowsweet Melilot Mint Parsley seed Pasque flower Pipsissewa Ribwort plantain Rosemary Sarsaparilla Shepherd's purse Thyme oil Veronica Wood Betony Also a formula for Kidney Cleanse Detox Tea- In blender put equal amounts of: Ground Juniper berries Cornsilk Uva Ursi leaves Parsley root and leaf Carrot tops Dandelion leaf Horsetail herbs Goldenrod flower tops Orange peel Peppermint leaf Hydrangea root Gravel root Marshmallow root Blend and use to make detox tea. Store in glass jar out of light. Dosage: 2 cups of the tea consumed 15 minutes after doing your Liver/Gall Bladder Flush. It can also be drunk at any other time during the day, as many cups as desired. Put 1 tablespoon (medium) or 2 tablespoons (strong) of this tea into 20 ounces of distilled water. Be sure to use only stainless steel or glass cookware. Let the tea sit in the water overnight. In the morning heat up to a boil, reduce heat and let simmer for 15 minutes. Strain the herbs, do not discard them, let cool a bit but use hot. Put the used herbs back into the pot, add 1 tablespoon of fresh herbs and 20 ounces of pure water. Let sit overnight and repeat whole process again. Keep adding new herbs to old ones for three days, then discard all herbs and start over. Hope this helps,I don't know if they are available in Costa Rica, there would be a similar list of tropical plants that would work. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9 - Release Date:
Re: CS CODEX / how to contact your CONGRESSPERSON
If Codex goes through, and our government rolls over for this outrageous control of human rights, it will spawn the biggest underground bootleg market since prohibition. - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: Re: CS CODEX / how to contact your CONGRESSPERSON - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: CShelp for a sty and also regarding CODEX ...Also want to say that the situation regarding CODEX is looking pretty grim. I hope everyone is contacting their representative in Congress to protest CAFTA. Please become informed if you haven't already. It should be coming out for a vote July 11th in the House. === To find out who your Congressmember is and to send a message to him/her, go to: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
Hi Angel: The EPA's oral calculations are theoretical calculations using a conversion equation, based on known toxicity thresholds taken from a number of different studies, all of which were conducted with high PPM compounds delivered via intraveneous injection or intramuscular injection. These numbers are accurate based on the nature of their data. You can, indeed, develop argyria with these dosage levels. As little as one or two little bottles of silver citrate or silver nitrate have caused several cases of argyria or a significant silver build up in the body, especially when these products have been used intranasally. The EPA has noted that if the body is subjected to 5 micrograms per kg per day of silver, then an individual falls into the risk category. In this, they have done their job quite well. However, EIS, electrically isolated silver, at a concentration of 0 to about ( a safe ) 30 PPM, is completely different from an organic molecule silver solution. At one time, many years ago, I theorized that the body handles each of these compounds completely differently. I didn't have much information regarding this hypothesis, but intuitively understood that it was correct. Studies by very well qualified homeopaths in France have demonstrated that the body first becomes aware of the nature of a substance ingested into the body the moment it 'touches' saliva. This effect can be measured within seconds by studying the feet. I now strongly believe that the human body can definately distinguish between five classes of substances ingested: Water Natural Organic molecules Natural Inorganic molecules a) inert, b) bioactive Toxic or unrecognized organic molecules Toxic or unrecognized inorganic molecules Make no mistake that water, in its best state, is best described as a colloid. When we're working with water in a pure state, the very subtle zeta potenial causes the H2O molecules to organize in six sided clusters, in essence, hexagonal formations. These are not stable crystals, but rather, a tendency for natural formation based on quantum probability theory in a semi-chaotic environment. While we can freeze time to see these molecules, they are constantly dispersing and reorganizing. Properly distilled water falls into this category. With EIS, we're taking a very pure water, and adding ( ideally ) an extremely small amount of minute, negatively charged particles, as well as silver ions that ( again ideally ) are sharing electrons with hydrogen. When we're done, we are drinking a water that is purer than Reverse Osmosis Water, purer than stream water, purer than any substance accept glacial water and rain water. I recently received an email from an individual who began experiencing strange health symptoms. He went to his doctor, and his doctor suspected silver toxicity as the cause. The individual had hair analysis done ( not by any means my favorite method of toxicity analysis ) and he was diagnosed with silver levels over 100X normal. He had used less than one bottle of a high PPM silver compound product ( as directed ) intranasally. Contrast this to a very bad sinus infection I had last year, where I used nearly a gallon of EIS intranasally over a three day period to flush the sinus cavities, with no ill effects whatsoever ( but with very, very rapid relief from the infection ). To try to come full circle here, it is the immune system itself which makes an actual DECISION on how substances ingested are dealt with in the body. If the immune system determines that a substance ingested is toxic, then a systemic toxic response occurs. This system is alot more complex than MD's and medical scientists currently realize, and is only now starting to be studied by genetic scientists. The more the immune system is compromised, the more often a toxic response is seen. Therefore, as the body breaks down, it is less capable of handling waste products, and soon all kinds of allergic responses occur to any number of substances, including electromagnetic energy, foods that at one time were fine for the body, etc. Sometimes we ingest substances that confuse the system. These are unknown substances, organic or inorganic molecules that the body must learn how to cope with. A good example is inorganic calcium formulations. Many of these formulations are used to try to recalcify the body. As Raymond Dextreit pointed out in his manual Earth Cures, the body recognizes the calcium content, but cannot correctly utilize the calcium; therefore, eventually, it causes unnatural deposits of calcium upon the bones resulting in the exact opposite of the intended effect: weakening of the bones ( a change in bone density ). Silver Nitrate, Silver Citrate, and other organic silver solutions are definately foreign substances in the body that will likely enduce a toxic response in the body, when considering high PPM
Re: CSoff topic
i think it just depends on how google archives it...if you google brooks bradley silver list it will take you right to his post...or any of the other members. apparently the web crawler for the ot list has done the archiving just a little differently. a rose...
Re: CShelp for a sty
Thanks for writing! Paula - Original Message - From: Marshalee mama...@netzero.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: Re: CShelp for a sty Dear Paula, Mine went away with straight CS applied to the sty, and about 1/3 cup taken internally a day as a preventive. It worked just fine! BTW, 1/2 teaspoon won`t do much, if that is all you swallow... (Mine is home made, about 18 PPM CS.) Marshalee Does anyone have any suggestions for getting rid of a sty in the eye? I have been taking a half a teaspoon of the CS twice a day. Would you also dilute it and put it directly on the sty? Does anyone have any other thoughts or solultions? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/05
Re: CS CODEX / how to contact your CONGRESSPERSON
I phoned mine, first off living in Texas you don't stand a chance:O. His website of course praises CAFTA to the hilt and when I talked to his office, I asked her if he might be interested in what about CAFTA I did not like and she said basically no, he has made up his mind. I asked her why on his website he is so dishonest as to not even tell his constituents what is snuck into CAFTA, why he does not inform them. Got nothing for that question. You need to phone them people, they are not going to read all the last minute email or, do both then --- Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: CShelp for a sty and also regarding CODEX ...Also want to say that the situation regarding CODEX is looking pretty grim. I hope everyone is contacting their representative in Congress to protest CAFTA. Please become informed if you haven't already. It should be coming out for a vote July 11th in the House. === To find out who your Congressmember is and to send a message to him/her, go to: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS(Fwd) Newsmakers Story
http://www.foodingredientsfirst.com Newsmakers Story Invision receives U.S. Patent for ionic silver complex Ionic silver is well known to be a very powerful and very broad-spectrum antibacterial agent. 05/07/05 Invision International Health Solutions, Inc., a pioneer in the field of ionic silver use as an antimicrobial in humans, announced the issuance of a U.S. Patent on its ionic silver complex technology. The use of ionic silver in medicine and industry has been growing rapidly in recent years due to its broad-spectrum antimicrobial qualities, the lack of toxicity to humans and the fact that ionic silver is not prone to causing resistant strains. Ionic silver is well known to be a very powerful and very broad-spectrum antibacterial agent. In addition, evidence is mounting that silver ions have powerful antiviral effects as well. A recent university study suggested ionic silver to be effective against the SARS virus. In Europe, ionic silver is a medically approved treatment used to combat systemic viral conditions, including the common cold and flu. Silver ion compounds have been introduced in recent years for antimicrobial use in food-handling materials, medical devices, surface disinfectants, wound-care products, industrial materials, textiles, and more. In all cases, the key is the carrier agent that is used to stabilize the silver ions and time release them at the desired location in the given environment. The patented technology is designed to utilize naturally occurring substances, such as citrate, to achieve optimal delivery and release of silver ions in the human body, in a highly efficient and entirely safe manner. Silver ions, while being lethal to single-celled microorganisms, are harmless to human cells and, in fact, are increasingly being used in wound care due to their remarkable ability to facilitate the healing of tissue. The patented technology provides for a completely safe product due to the efficient delivery, introducing a minute quantity of silver to the body -- less than what may exist in a person's average drinking water intake as a naturally occurring mineral. The difference is that this new technology is designed to deliver the silver as active silver ions with antimicrobial ability. http://www.chemie.de/news/e/47366/?pw=adefop=andwild=yessdate=01/01 /1 995edate=07/04/2005 http://www.chemie.de/news/e/47366/?pw=adefop=andwild=yessdate=01/0 1/ 1995edate=07/04/2005 _ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPUBLIC Off-Topic LIST??????????
In a message dated 7/6/2005 9:03:35 AM Central Standard Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: OK, everybody, let's google hillary and see wat she's so mortified about. ROTFLMAO :-D MA
CSresponse to Hillary - CS safety
Jason said, When we're done, we are drinking a water that is purer than Reverse Osmosis Water, purer than stream water, purer than any substance accept glacial water and rain water. Actually, what we make is purer than any of the above, as both of the last two above are polluted from our Earths atmosphere. When we distill water to make CS, it is as pure as we can realistically get it. Hillary, the key point here to remember is that the EPA has NO information about the CS we make (EIS). They know nothing. They have no reports, no statistics, nothing. Everything they discuss, every recommendation they make is about silver salts, compounds and proteins. They refuse to acknowledge that there even IS a pure, electrically isolated colloidal silver, let alone that there is a difference between one form and another. For the EPA to set standards or make recommendations about silver ingestion is ridiculous. The only thing they know anything about are toxic forms of silver, and they refuse to even consider that there might be a safe, non-toxic form of silver. Scientists Robert H. Demling and Robert E. Burrel have established the fact that particle size changes all the dynamics of silvers interaction with other metals, minerals and the human body. Silver particle size and purity is the key to its safety. http://www.cesil.com/leaderforchemist/articoli/inglese/7demlinging/7demlinging.htm What we make with pure water and pure silver is another breed of cat, with its own rules and its own operating principles. The only similarity between EIS and the toxic silver compounds that the EPA discusses is the use of the name, silver. The EPA is not talking about 5 mcg. of EIS, it is talking about 5 mcg. of silver nitrate or other silver protein. It has no recommendations about EIS, being unwilling to admit to its existance. The FDA says it has NO reports of EIS hurting anyone, anytime, anywhere, ingesting any quantity. You are surrounded on all sides and regularly, frequently applying, ingesting and inhaling substances that are more toxic and dangerous than EIS. Every 20-minute ride in your car causes you to inhale more poison than 100 gallons of EIS. Every commercial fruit or vegetable has more poison on it than 100 gallons of EIS. Do you see what I mean? Sorry for the rant. This stuff we make is safer than most other things in life. Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnetized Water
I don't quite understand the science behind it but there is a lasting and discernable difference in the taste and smoothness/slickness of water that is pulsed with a northern magnet (Sota MPG5). Using this water to make CS makes for better tasting CS and possibly more bioavailable CS. It would be nice if there were some sort of experiment that could verify this. A qoute from the quantum balancing website: http://www.quantumbalancing.com/energized_water_2.htm Structured water is good for you, your pets and your plants all by itself, and it's great for making colloidal silver. So how do you go about making it and will it be as good as the commercial kind? For the answer to that let me just say that water can only be structured so far and no further. The methods we'll show you will produce various amounts of structuring, with the best being 'way up there'. As to the how, let's take a look at what we know. Water is not one solid mass of liquid. It actually consists of layers. When these layers slide by each other, as when they are shaken or otherwise turbulent, the surfaces of the layers are susceptible to absorbing an electromotive force or energy. We've already seen that some sort of force or energy from the moon affects them but so do other types of energy. The energy derived from prayer has proven to be effective as does the energy from a person deliberately visualizing a beneficial white light entering the water from his hands or eyes. (Both have been proven via an electron microscope). A magnetic field, applied at this time, also has a definite effect. (Our waterline magnets do exactly that). But before we jump to any conclusions, consider one other factor. Maurice Vogel was a researcher who worked for General Electric. He wrote one of the earliest definitive tests on magnetism. He discovered that water swirled in a clockwise vortex (like when you stir it swiftly with a spoon) develops its own magnetic field of .07 gauss and becomes a permanent magnet! (That's why Daryl Tichy creates a vortex around a specially cut crystal. The crystal enhances the magnetic field thru a piezo electric action). So what does all this mean? It means that you can structure water in several different ways; by simply shaking it vigorously; by shaking it while i's within a magnetic field; by running it thru or over small obstructions (like quartz crystal pebbles) which create tiny eddies or vortexes behind each pebble; by doing this same thing while in a magnetic field; by creating a vortex in the water or by creating a vortex and applying a magnetic field to it at the same time. All of these things will result in varying degrees of structure within the water. Which of these methods will produce the maximum efficient structuring? Let's look at the worst first. Simply putting the water into a closed container, placing 2 magnets on either side of the container and shaking vigorously for 1 minute will produce a slight structuring - hardly enough to bother with. The vortex combined with the magnetic field is the best. Providing you remember to take into account the Zeta potential - one of the 5 essential factors that determines a colloid's life and effectiveness. Too much of a magnetic charge can make your structure (and its resulting colloid) almost worthless. In between is the stirring method. Put the water into a cup or glass and stir it with a magnet, swiftly enough for a vortex to form in the liquid. Stir for 30 seconds. Let the water stand for 6 minutes at least. This produces structuring four times better than the shaking method. Repeat the stirring method after the first 6 minutes and you'll make it almost as good as the funnel method, which follows. With the funnel method you acquire a funnel that produces a vortex of swirling of the water as it empties. Not all funnels will do this. The swirl should be in a clockwise direction. Attach one or two magnets to the outside of the funnel, on opposite sides, down near the narrow end, with the positive side and negative sides in toward the funnel. Pour the water thru the funnel (making sure of the swirling action). Let stand at least 6 minutes and repeat. This method produces an excellent structure, but it only works well if you're doing a quart or more at a time. If you don't want to make your own funnel device, just get one of our new Water Vortex Magnetizers which utilizes a geometrically correct magnet array along with a very powerful vortex imploder. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSstye
I routinely use CS in the eye straight. Just put a few drops in the corner of each eye, open, roll and dab. Might sting a little, but is very refreshing. Haven't had a stye in many years, but it does wonders for children's pink eye and any kind of eye irritation. Best wishes. pj Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnetized Water
I'm Con-vinced I could prove the different improvement in my CS/h202 using the magnets taped to my bottle- to an intellectually honest person. I drank the water before and after, with out intending to find a difference. I was pleasantly surprised by the absence of metal/bleach taste. Today, the same occured with a different batch, and the all day as well. I'll try and pour it from the magnet bottle, into a glass, let it sit a bit, and drink- to see what happens.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA source of free magnets
In a message dated 06/07/2005 02:36:35 GMT Daylight Time, f...@atlanticbb.net writes: hard drives have very very strong magnets inside them too... Subj: Re: CSA source of free magnets Date: 06/07/2005 02:36:35 GMT Daylight Time From: f...@atlanticbb.net (FRANK CUNS-RIAL) Reply-to: A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A To:silver-list@eskimo.com Excellent idea. Thanks for sharing the free magnet idea Terry Frank - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: CSA source of free magnets Whenever I can, I disassemble old, dead microwave ovens. They contain round, donut-shaped magnets about 2-1/4 - 2-3/4 across. VERY STRONG. I place a jar of water on top of one of these and the water has a different consistency. Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScodex
I agree with Nenah. We have to speak up and write to as many congressmen as we can. I made a phone call to one of the representatives and they answered immediately(I was quite surprised) I was able to verbally express my concerns on the vitamin and supplement issue. I am also emailing and writing as many letters as I can. I think we at least have to try to stop this. It is our basic right. Thank you to the person who posted the http://house.got/write/rep web site. I reposted it on another forum. I think that sometimes people dont know who their representative is and how to go about writing a letter. This web site makes it very simple. Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver to whiten teeth?
Hi angel nest, The conversion formula is correct. I think you need to investigate the degree of cellular absorption of silver. Regards Frank - Original Message - From: angel nest To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:42 AM Subject: CSsilver to whiten teeth? hello guys, i think i'm going to order the ionic white teeth whitening system, as soon as i get some more info from the vendor... but in reading about it, this caught my eye and i thought it was odd and wonder if it makes sense to any of y'all ? What is Ionic about Ionic white? The gel contains silver ions which activate when exposed to the harmless blue led light. The silver ions cause the active bleaching how could silver ions have any whitening effect combined with any kind of light? what do you think? angel
Re: CSA source of free magnets
hard drives have very very strong magnets inside them too... Unfortunately, hard drive magnets are both north and south on each face. Duncan Crow -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver protein and clustered water
I posted someting a while ago about silver protein. IF anyone knows the answer to my question please reply. I am concerned about it. Also, would Willards Water be considered clustered water? Just wanted to report that I have been reading some responses that senators are writing to people regarding the codex issue. The replies are indicitive of people in power that are obviously uninformed about nutrition, medical issues,the difference between the safety of prescription drugs versus nutritional supplements, and also, I feel indifferent to the wants and needs of the majority. ONe of the letters stated that people need to eat better and that relying on nutrition supplements and vitamins will discourage this. Are we really reduced to human beings that cannot make informed intelligent decisions regarding our own health? They also have made comparisions to the dangers of the stimulant that was in dietary supplements a while back, That was one case and the supplement was removed. How many people die from using vitamins and minerals compared to prescription drugs? I feel like alot of the responses I have read are just letters filled with platitudes and placative statements. I think it boils down to big drug companies control and monetary gain. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CODEX / how to contact your CONGRESSPERSON
Hi William, Yeah I know. I already rub my hands in eager anticipation for all the oportunities it will create. you know people are gonig to want their vitamins. we get to be an illegal Vitmin C dealer :-) Take care, V http://www.theledman.net http://www.pulsepowermeter.com If Codex goes through, and our government rolls over for this outrageous control of human rights, it will spawn the biggest underground bootleg market since prohibition. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCODEX / how to contact your CONGRESSPERSON
Hi Nenah, Who is this sold-out-soul in Texas? I would like to keep up with who is 'one of them', since I live in Texas. Might have wasted my time today but at least I made the effort. Thank you, Jean * I phoned mine, first off living in Texas you don't stand a chance:O. His website of course praises CAFTA to the hilt and when I talked to his office, I asked her if he might be interested in what about CAFTA I did not like and she said basically no, he has made up his mind. I asked her why on his website he is so dishonest as to not even tell his constituents what is snuck into CAFTA, why he does not inform them. Got nothing for that question. You need to phone them people, they are not going to read all the last minute email or, do both then --- Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: CShelp for a sty and also regarding CODEX ...Also want to say that the situation regarding CODEX is looking pretty grim. I hope everyone is contacting their representative in Congress to protest CAFTA. Please become informed if you haven't already. It should be coming out for a vote July 11th in the House. === To find out who your Congressmember is and to send a message to him/her, go to: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
