Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Ode Coyote
Walmart has an ultrasonic humidifier that will do the nebulizing job for $34.
 Relion brand. [Make sure it says ultrasonic] Reloin has different types
too.
 Remove filter, dump in home made very cheap CS and sit over the outlet and
breath deep.
It's also the best humidifier I ever saw or used.

Ode

Sophia was doing relatively well until this past
month.  I'm not sure why she is getting so many more
attacks this past month or so.  Maybe in the middle of
the month I'll have some money to get a nebulizer.

-Ken





Hi Ken,

My sister has a Pug who was overdosed on steroids (not
the vet's fault), and
has ruined his immune system.  He now has aspergillis
in his lungs and after
5 shots of an antibiotic of the last resort, was no
better.  I offered to
let her use my Multi Tech XJ-3000C, air purification
system (ionizer, ozone,
hepa filter, UV light, activated carbon).  One night
and he was MUCH better
according to my sister.  We will see.

Jean

** 
 
 There are alot of lawsuits out there pending
 regarding various ozone air purification devices,
and
 I've reviewed reports from devestated parents who
have
 used such devices, whose children have apparently
 experienced permanent lung damage from the use of
such
 machines. While I cannot vouch for the authenticity
of
 these claims, I doubt that the parents are simply
 money-grubbing people, or FDA plants.
 
 That scares me.  I think I'm going to stop using my
 ionizers.  My little girl has for the past 36 hours
of
 so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath,
and
 the albuterol we are currently giving her
(temporarily
 until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely
 working.  I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are
at
 fault. But I really don't know.  I'm going to turn
 them off, and I'm going to tell my wife to take
Sophia
 to the beach for the day.  Maybe that will help
clear
 her up.
 
 -Ken


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Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease

2005-08-09 Thread Rowena
  Sandee, thanks for the link.  Very interesting article, especially to those 
of us treating Fibromyalgia, fibrositis as was, where the tissues are said to 
be carrying loads of calcium phosphate.  CSers have been discussing Slackstone 
recently, and I really do want to get on and work out how to get a money order 
to Spain and then how to make sure Australian Customs let it through.  
Guaifenesin-using FMSers believe the guai enables the body to excrete the 
phosphate in certain circumstances (if salicylates, which fit better, don't get 
to the kidney receptors first).  Is increased dosage of CS an answer to 
targetting the nanobacteria?  I know some take pints and quarts of it.  I've 
never gone up to those quantities.  What is current CS thinking on fighting 
nanobacteria?
  Rowena

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CSCurry spice may help fight cancer

2005-08-09 Thread JS Campbell

Curry spice may help cancer fight
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/4131522.stm



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Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease

2005-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
About a year ago there was an announcement that taking antibiotics over
a long period killed these bacteria and resulted in a lower rate of
heart disease. At that time it was surmised that taking EIS would
accomplish the same thing without the downside of antibiotics.  I
believe that is the case.

Marshall

Ross Craig wrote:

 Interesting would be understatementIf this is all true, and
 nanobacteria cause all calcification and all the diseases that go with
 it, can EIS kill it? Could one prevent petrifying calcification with a
 few ounces of EIS daily?

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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:35 PM
  Subject: CSNanobacteria, Calcification  Heart Disease
   Thought this might interest the groupREgards to allSandee
  The one who accomplished it is the one
   who failed to realize that he could not do it. Click here:
  NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification  Heart Disease
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Re: CSCS effectiveness

2005-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
I didn't write that.

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

 Marshall Wrote:

 The number of credible studies that disprove this
 claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies
 demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria,
 tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus,
 Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis
 bacteria and anthrax.

 I think Trich is actually a protozoan.

 Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:44 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSCS effectiveness

 marmar...@aol.com wrote:
 I am posting a response from another list I'm on,
 which rebutted my statements regarding Colloidal
 Silver (on that list).

  When some friends of mine found out I was using CS
 with success on some tough problems, they gently took
 me aside and cleared up some misconceptions. Because
 they both worked at MIT, and the wife went on to teach
 at Princeton (electron microscopy in determining cell
 response to disease) and the husband is now head of a
 company developing carbon nanosphere technology as a
 step beyond MRI imaging, I take their understanding as
 sound! 

 As most of us on this list have discovered,
 impressive-sounding credentials don't guarantee
 accuracy or credibility.

  CS, despite being called nature's antibiotic, has
 no effect on fungal, baterial or viral pathogens.

 I have a copy of Brigham Young Universities studies
 that show differently.

 Marshall responded:
 Where did they get that idea. Did they run tests, and
 if so what was the protocol?  I personally had tests
 run at University of Tennessee and determined that it
 has a lot of effect.  Others have run tests and many
 of them are posted on the net, and none of them ever
 showed no effect.

  The mechanism by which CS works is this: Silver
 (and also gold, which you can also buy as a colloid)
 are inert metals as far as the body is concerned - no
 reaction. When a virus, for instance, enters a cell,
 the mitochondria of the cell are attracted to it and
 attach to the virus. The virus borrows the DNA from
 the mitochondria  - it's necessary for the virus to do
 so in order to reproduce. When silver is present in
 the cells in the particle size that mimics a virus
 (and this is why particle size is very important) the
 mitochondria attach to the silver and become busy -
 they can't attach to the virus. Hence, virus can't
 reproduce and so die. Less virus present, less
 inflammatory response from the body. There's no
 inherent immunity with silver itself, and it doesn't
 kill virus, bacteria, or fungus, but it maintains
 the integrity of the cell by keeping it busy or
 plugged. 

 Marshall responds:
 Where did this information come from? Never heard it
 before. Is there any experimental evidence to back it
 up?  If it doesn't kill bacteria, then why does every
 test I know of that has ever been run on it with
 bacteria show a high or 100% kill rate?

 Silver doesn't have any effect on a pathogen, so it
 can't suffocate or kill it. But the above
 explanation does lend itself to the idea of building
 an immunity, although I doubt a scientist would
 agree with that interpretation. 

 The number of credible studies that disprove this
 claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies
 demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria,
 tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus,
 Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis
 bacteria and anthrax. See:
 http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2003/04/c7099.html

 http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2002/16/c1055.html

 http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2003/24/c3100.html

 http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section1.htm

 The recommended 8-10 ppm is in line with what they
 know about this action - you don't want too much or
 too little. You do need the volume that dilution to
 8-10ppm creates in order to disperse it through the
 body - because a percentage of it is going to be lost
 in the digestive tract or otherwise eliminated. If
 making your own, there are some issues - if you don't
 have rather sophisticated equipment you can't be sure
 of the particle size or concentration. 

 The success of folks with MS and cancer by drinking
 copious quantities (16-24 oz/day) negates the idea
 that one must be careful to take just the right
 amount. Roger Altman's study demonstrated the
 non-accumulation of properly made CS, thereby
 establishing that the body simply disposes of unused
 CS.

 Their feeling is that what you are making is
 actually silver salts, not colloidal silver. 

 Marshall responded:
 That is impossible.  A salt requires an anion, and
 there is none present in distilled water. These guys
 need to study chemistry.

 When supposedly knowledgeable people make statements
 that are poor science or pseudo-science, it becomes
 hard to take them seriously.

 I said - and yet it works for the people who make
 it and they said that 

Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease

2005-08-09 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Rowena - this is, in my opinion, a rehash of what I had
over ten years ago called chelation - and excellent procedure
although, what they are doing with it today may have changed 
since my time, however I would recommend the procedure to
any and everyone who wants to have a clean unblocked system.
Then to change their diet for minimum rebuilding of all the gunk !!!
This is just my opinion.   As far as C.S. is concerned, I take per
diem whatever amount I feel is what I need, this ranges from one
swig of the bottle to many during the day depending upon what
my body is up to - I know that this would be considered a very
unethical way of dosage for most people however I have been listening to
my body for many years and now know more often
than not exactly what is needed - I will give you an example - if
I wake up in the morning with a scratchy throat then I swig three
times for the day by the end of the day all is back to normal.   This
is the best I can do for you as each one of us is different and this
is why each one of us needs to learn to listen to what our bodies
want, doctors etc., can only prescribe - we have to be the final
judge of what and how it works for us !I call this taking
responsibility for my own health - hope this sharing helps with 
your final decision.   Let me put it this way I am never without 
my C.S. even when travelling !   Especially when I am travelling
I use it in my eyes, nose plus the swig !   In my book dirt is the
breeding ground of all bugs regardless of what type they may be 
Man made antibiotics only hit certain ones, C.S. has a far wider 
range because of the way in which it works !!Most important
of which is that it does no harm while it works it's magic !
Regards
Sandee


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CSHow to Purchase a machine for making cs

2005-08-09 Thread ruth strackbein

From Ruth Strackbein I am becoming interested in using cs to treat my digestive problems. Also there are definitely some calcification issues involved. Any information about purchasing a machine or making one would be appreciated. I did look up a url my daughter sent me, the information about making a machine came up and printed, but not the pictures. Unfortunately I didn't bring the paper with the url with me . Hopefully you have such information available. Otherwise will send another message tomorrow. Thanks. Ruth Strackbein


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Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease

2005-08-09 Thread Ross Craig
Interesting would be understatementIf this is all true, and nanobacteria 
cause all calcification and all the diseases that go with it, can EIS kill it? 

Could one prevent petrifying calcification with a few ounces of EIS daily? 


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  From: Sandee George 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:35 PM
  Subject: CSNanobacteria, Calcification  Heart Disease


  Thought this might interest the group
  REgards to all
  Sandee
  The one who accomplished it is the one
   who failed to realize that he could not do it.


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CSEIS

2005-08-09 Thread ruth strackbein

From Ruth Strackbein

What is the difference between CS and EIS?


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CSEIS

2005-08-09 Thread ruth strackbein

From Ruth Strackbein

What is the difference between CS and EIS?


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CSEIS

2005-08-09 Thread Matthew McCann
The difference between EIS and CS is that CS is a
component of EIS, not vice versa.

We might regard EIS as silver particulates suspended in
an aqueous solution of a soluble silver compound, probably
silver hydroxide.

CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Nenah Sylver said,
Ken,
If you go to http://www.emofree.com you can download a
manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique
might help your daughter and your whole family.

Ken, EFT has been amazingly effective with asthma. EFT
tapping can be done on the child and even for the
child (on yourself in her place), with good results. I
have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you
how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in
the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it.

Just recently, I used EFT for a growing health issue
that frequently appears after middle age: frequent
nighttime trips to the bathroom. On the FIRST day I
tapped about it, just before bed, instead of getting
up every two hours, I slept all night. Coincidence,
obviously, my mind whispered to me. But it's been
nearly a week now, and I am sleeping all night each
night. Haven't done that in a long time.

I used EFT with a young lady (grand-daughter of a
client) who was in the middle of some kind of mental
breakdown - she had dropped out of college, slept 18
hours/day, and cried every minute she was conscious. I
met with her 5 Saturdays in a row, doing EFT with her.
At the end of that time, she went back to college
radiant. Amazing.

Terry Chamberlin







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Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Barbara
Terry,

Will that technique work on digestive system?  Not very bad problem, just
annoying.
It it does, may I have your tutorial file also, please?
Thanks :)

Barbara




 Just recently, I used EFT for a growing health issue
 that frequently appears after middle age: frequent
 nighttime trips to the bathroom. On the FIRST day I
 tapped about it, just before bed, instead of getting
 up every two hours, I slept all night. Coincidence,
 obviously, my mind whispered to me. But it's been
 nearly a week now, and I am sleeping all night each
 night. Haven't done that in a long time.


 Terry Chamberlin



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Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Grace1way
I bought a cool-mist vaporizer at Big Lots for $7.99, intending to use it 
to breathe CS mist.  I figured that as long as the unit did not heat the CS, 
making steam and separating the H2O from the Ag, that this would work.  Is that 
correct?  Why remove filter, if using ionic silver?  Is it because the silver 
might react with it, and not get into the air?  If any cool mist vaporizer 
will work, then these can be purchased at any drug store for under $20.

Jill


RE: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease

2005-08-09 Thread Richard Harris
Dear  Sandee,
Thank you for your expressions which are so readable and understandable for
us seekers!
Hope you're doing fine back home in Grenada!
Best wishes to you and yours!

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From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification  Heart Disease


Hi There Rowena - this is, in my opinion, a rehash of what I had
over ten years ago called chelation - and excellent procedure
although, what they are doing with it today may have changed
since my time, however I would recommend the procedure to
any and everyone who wants to have a clean unblocked system.
Then to change their diet for minimum rebuilding of all the gunk !!!
This is just my opinion.   As far as C.S. is concerned, I take per
diem whatever amount I feel is what I need, this ranges from one
swig of the bottle to many during the day depending upon what
my body is up to - I know that this would be considered a very
unethical way of dosage for most people however I have been listening to
my body for many years and now know more often
than not exactly what is needed - I will give you an example - if
I wake up in the morning with a scratchy throat then I swig three
times for the day by the end of the day all is back to normal.   This
is the best I can do for you as each one of us is different and this
is why each one of us needs to learn to listen to what our bodies
want, doctors etc., can only prescribe - we have to be the final
judge of what and how it works for us !I call this taking
responsibility for my own health - hope this sharing helps with
your final decision.   Let me put it this way I am never without
my C.S. even when travelling !   Especially when I am travelling
I use it in my eyes, nose plus the swig !   In my book dirt is the
breeding ground of all bugs regardless of what type they may be 
Man made antibiotics only hit certain ones, C.S. has a far wider
range because of the way in which it works !!Most important
of which is that it does no harm while it works it's magic !
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Grace1way
May I please have your tutorial file also?  Will EFT work on bladder 
inflammation?  Will it work on parasites?--no information on the emofree 
website on 
these.  

I have not found information on the emofree website on the use of EFT to 
remove the influence of Dark Force energies; it should work, because 
chiropractic 
techniques have a noticeable effect.  Does anyone have any information or 
experience in this regard?  Protection against the Dark Force energies is an 
extremely significant component of overall health and well being.  If there is 
any 
interest in this sensitive topic, I will share some of the valuable 
information I have.  It would definitely need to be moved to the OT list, 
however.

Thanks,

Jill


Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 8/9/05 10:39:03 AM Central Daylight Time, 
grace1...@aol.com writes:


 Protection against the Dark Force energies is an extremely significant 
 component of overall health and well being.  

Well, I'm at least wondering what Dark Force energies are? MA


Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Duncan Crow
 You think N-A-C (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) would be useful? 

NAC would be useful as a glutathione precursor, but there are a 
couple of strong reasons that it's used in emergency situations and 
not as a daily supplement.

First, although NAC does increase cysteine delivery to the cells it's 
treated as a toxin by the body. Complexing toxic cysteine with acetic 
acid as a carrier does not render it non-toxic. That's why at decent 
doses, in adults 500 mg per dose, it does produce some toxic effects 
and doctors who promote antioxidant use decided the trade-off wasn't 
worth using it as a daily supplement.

Second, it has a very short half-life in the system, so dosing is 
frequent, on the order of every four hours, in order to avoid 
plummeting glutathione levels in between doses. This can be a 
disaster in an acute situation and also in an infection situation, as 
low glutathione actually stimulates infection.

 I heard that is a cystine containing compound, and at
 one time, it was purported to be helpful to those with
 emphysema, but then that was retracted because they
 couldn't agree on whether it really reduced mucous or
 not.

Glutathione delivered as a mist is OK for lungs, but because 
antioxidant depletion is a systemic condition I mentioned precursors 
first that would address it as such. The cold-processed whey and 
selenium is also the least expensive route, even if you also add the 
other antioxidants.
 
 I guess I can look into the selenium and vitamins. 
 She already takes a daily multivitamin, with fair
 amounts of common vitamins and minerals. It's not
 flintstones vitamins or some garbage like that, and it
 has no artificial anything in it. But I don't remember
 if it has selenium.
 
 I've used Omega 6 Borage oil before for gum
 inflammation and I know that stuff works for
 inflammation. Do you think that would be useful?

Personally, I don't recommend omega-6 oils for anything as they 
generally promote inflammation and supplementation is usually 
superfluous anyway. It's omega-3 oils that are usually in short 
supply in the diet.

 Part of the problem to is that it is hard to get her
 to take some medicines consistently. She can't figure
 out how to swallow capsules yet, and thay would be so
 helpful if she would, because so many of the herbs,
 vitamins, etc, are just plain nasty tasting, and often
 are not concealable.

Cold-processed whey makes a nice drink a lot like a milkshake.

Duncan


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Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Grace1way
Check out www.christaresources.com/protection, for more complete and 
professional information about the Dark Forces than I could give.  

Jill


CSEIS

2005-08-09 Thread Dan Nave
CSEIS

From: ruth strackbein wrote: 
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:33:25 



From Ruth Strackbein
 
What is the difference between CS and EIS?


**

CS (Colloidal Silver) has become a catch-all term, like Kleenex is for
tissue.
It can include silver protein or silver salts and extremely 
high ppm silver products.  These have certain problems associated 
with them and are generally not recommended for use on this list.

Using this generic definition, EIS is also called CS.

EIS stands for Electrically Isolated Silver in which silver ions and
particles are produced by electricity from a pure silver anode in a
medium of pure distilled water, without any additives such as salt. 
This is what we strive for and generally make with our home colloidal
silver makers.

Dan


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Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Christine Carleton
This is common place in energy medicine as people work to decrease pain thus
increasing their frequency and consciousness.  We acquired pain by
misperceptions/misalignment of truth.  When balanced, one's gates of
awareness to truth open and the pain will dissolve.  It's subtle
frequencies.

Good food and water assist the process.

Addiction to junk foods is often reflective of 'eractic' though processes
which attract lower energies - eg. drugs - street and pharma, alcohol,
sugar, anger, rejection, anti-biotics (Latin = anti-against, biotic-life),
abandonment,  you know them...  Don't cover them up with pain killers.  Look
directly at them. They inhibit the electrical circuitry of the meridians,
chakras, etc. which activate the exterior membranes of our cells - the brain
of the cells - Reference: Dr. B. Lipton, cellular biologist.  Book: 'The
Biology of Belief, unleashing the power of consciousness, matter and
miracles'..  Sometimes limited thinking patterns are acquired from cultural,
spiritual practices... It's all within each one of us.

YOU KNOW when you get it RIGHT.  THE PAIN LEAVES!

Consider the depth of ancient wisdom:

The thought manifests as the word
The word manifests as the deed
The deed develops into habit
And the habit hardens into character

So watch the thought
And it's ways with care
And let it sprig from love
Born out of respect for all beings
... Dharma

Christine
http://mybodytalk.com



From: marmar...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 12:03:20 EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAsthma and EFT
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 09:03:49 -0700


In a message dated 8/9/05 10:39:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
grace1...@aol.com writes:


Protection against the Dark Force energies is an extremely significant
component of overall health and well being.


Well, I'm at least wondering what Dark Force energies are? MA




Re: CSHow to Purchase a machine for making cs

2005-08-09 Thread ch...@comcast.net
Ruth,

I'm not discounting CS but look into changing your diet.  

I am currently reading the Maker's Diet which is wonderful reading.  Jordan 
Rubin is saying the same thing Dr. Mercola  Sally Fallon (Nourshing Traditions 
book/Weston Price Foundation) are saying - it's just he makes it clearer to me. 
 

Cindy


-- Original message -- 








From Ruth Strackbein  I am becoming interested in using cs to treat my 
digestive problems.  Also there are definitely some calcification issues 
involved. Any information about purchasing a machine or making one would be 
appreciated.  I did look up a url my daughter sent me, the information about 
making a machine came up and printed, but not the pictures.  Unfortunately I 
didn't bring the paper with the url with me .  Hopefully you have such 
information available.  Otherwise will send another message tomorrow.  Thanks. 
Ruth Strackbein
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Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Christine Carleton
Protection is a step of awareness of the 'blocked energies'.  However,
protection sets up a mind set of duality.  Perhaps if we could escape from
the media overlay of 'Your with Us or Your 'agin Us' mentality, and started
to see that all is in balance, then we could ask the right questions to get
the lessons and move on. Fear is wonderful 'dumbing down' tool.  It's energy
blockage which limits the consciousness.  Often our most precious sacrosanct
beliefs get us into biggest 'do-do's' which create most physical, emotion
and mental pain places.  Some energy medicines build and extend the
prevailing electrical grids around our bodies, and our awareness of choices
increases.  Good water, (CS) aids conductivity of electrical impulses
increasing consciousness.
Christine

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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:37:09 EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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May I please have your tutorial file also?  Will EFT work on bladder
inflammation?  Will it work on parasites?--no information on the emofree
website on these.  

I have not found information on the emofree website on the use of EFT to
remove the influence of Dark Force energies; it should work, because
chiropractic techniques have a noticeable effect.  Does anyone have any
information or experience in this regard?  Protection against the Dark Force
energies is an extremely significant component of overall health and well
being.  If there is any interest in this sensitive topic, I will share some
of the valuable information I have.  It would definitely need to be moved to
the OT list, however.

Thanks,

Jill





CS

2005-08-09 Thread Connie Howard

Yesterday I took my eight year old cat to the vet as his front gums was
really red and bleeding and swollen...  He was also having lots of
drainage from his nose (a greenish color).   They perscribed clindamycin
hydrochloride liquid  (1.0 mL) twice a day.   And wanted to schedule to
have his two front teeth remove (the large ones; one on top and one on
bottom).

I bought the perscription and that is helping.This cat has had upper
respirtory problems for 4 to 5 years...  and I've had him to numberous
vets who perscribe anti-biotics yet nothing really worked.

For the last 5 months I've changed all the cats diets:  I buy ground
turkey and warm it up enough to get a fluid but not really cook the meat.
 I add MSM, L-Lysine, and Nutritional yeast (brewers yeast).  Also; from
the health food store I buy a bottle of herbal Immune Formual (echinacea,
goldenseal, vit C, beta carotene, pau D'Arco, Shitake and Maitake
Mushrooms).
I added the ingrediats after heating the meat.They preferr this to
another other cat food.  Also, I get ONE sensitive stomack dry cat food.

Also; I make my own CS using Richard Harris's formula; but I've upped the
ppm to maximum on my CS maker that I purchased from SilverGen; Inc.   
I've two cats who had the severe upper respertory problem and do the
above treatment has significantly improved their  condition; but  not
eliminated it. Also,  I mix in Immune26 or make up a drink for them 3
to 4 times a week.

Do  you think that I should have the two teeth removed?  Is there any
other options available?
And can you think of anything else I might be able to do for this upper
respiratory.  The symptoms are drainage from nose, and sneezing (lots of
it)...  

thanks...


connieBackGrnd.jpg

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Duncan Crow
 I bought a cool-mist vaporizer at Big Lots for $7.99, intending to
 use it to breathe CS mist.  I figured that as long as the unit did not
 heat the CS, making steam and separating the H2O from the Ag, that
 this would work.  Is that correct?  Why remove filter, if using ionic
 silver?  Is it because the silver might react with it, and not get
 into the air?  If any cool mist vaporizer will work, then these can be
 purchased at any drug store for under $20.
 
 Jill
 

This was the eaxct method we used several times to get rid of a nasty 
100 day flu that came through the region two years in a row. They 
drank colloidal silver and breathed it directly from the cool mist 
unit. We all used primarily ionic CS made with the silver maker that 
uses a microwave oven circuit.

Long story short - no failures, and it cured the flu in less than two 
days each time. 

Duncan


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Re: CScat respitory and dental question?

2005-08-09 Thread Connie Howard
Sorry but the subject was not listed

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:56:38 -0700 Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com
writes:

Yesterday I took my eight year old cat to the vet as his front gums was
really red and bleeding and swollen...  He was also having lots of
drainage from his nose (a greenish color).   They perscribed clindamycin
hydrochloride liquid  (1.0 mL) twice a day.   And wanted to schedule to
have his two front teeth remove (the large ones; one on top and one on
bottom).

I bought the perscription and that is helping.This cat has had upper
respirtory problems for 4 to 5 years...  and I've had him to numberous
vets who perscribe anti-biotics yet nothing really worked.

For the last 5 months I've changed all the cats diets:  I buy ground
turkey and warm it up enough to get a fluid but not really cook the meat.
 I add MSM, L-Lysine, and Nutritional yeast (brewers yeast).  Also; from
the health food store I buy a bottle of herbal Immune Formual (echinacea,
goldenseal, vit C, beta carotene, pau D'Arco, Shitake and Maitake
Mushrooms).
I added the ingrediats after heating the meat.They preferr this to
another other cat food.  Also, I get ONE sensitive stomack dry cat food.

Also; I make my own CS using Richard Harris's formula; but I've upped the
ppm to maximum on my CS maker that I purchased from SilverGen; Inc.   
I've two cats who had the severe upper respertory problem and do the
above treatment has significantly improved their  condition; but  not
eliminated it. Also,  I mix in Immune26 or make up a drink for them 3
to 4 times a week.

Do  you think that I should have the two teeth removed?  Is there any
other options available?
And can you think of anything else I might be able to do for this upper
respiratory.  The symptoms are drainage from nose, and sneezing (lots of
it)...  

thanks...


connieBackGrnd.jpg

Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Gail Evans
Terry,

I would like a copy of the file also. Thanks!
Gail
www.expertembroidery.com
www.livingnow.net/gevans

- Original Message - 
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: CSAsthma and EFT


 Nenah Sylver said,
 Ken,
 If you go to http://www.emofree.com you can download a
 manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique
 might help your daughter and your whole family.
 
 Ken, EFT has been amazingly effective with asthma. EFT
 tapping can be done on the child and even for the
 child (on yourself in her place), with good results. I
 have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you
 how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in
 the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it.


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CSRe: Protection/Water Treatments

2005-08-09 Thread Grace1way
Very true indeed!  Protection does set up a mind-set of duality, as does 
healing, and everything else we do in the realm of form.  Were it not for means 
of 
protection from the Dark Forces, I would not longer be alive, but would be 
on the other side of the balance-continuum of life and death.  Thanks to 
removing the Dark Force energy I have the opportunity to consciously choose the 
nondual path.  

Your comment about water and CS was provocative.  I have read that so much 
can be done with water that promotes well-being on every level, but am not well 
informed about the possibilities.  Do you know where would be a good place to 
start?  I have heard of angel water, magnetized water, ozonated water, Willard 
Water, water that has an alkalinating effect, etc., etc., but would like to 
find a source that discusses the entire field of water treatment, makes 
comparisons and draws conclusions.  The information available seems to be from 
sources only offering one particular brand--for sale.

Thanks for your valuable comments.

Jill


Re: CScat respitory and dental question?

2005-08-09 Thread Grace1way
I wish I could help you, and I do really admire your efforts to help your 
cats.  I know many human beings who would give their two front teeth to be 
half 
as well cared for as your cats.

Best of luck,

Jill


Re: CSAnyone know this guy?

2005-08-09 Thread twllLL

He also has/had a super memmory course he was selling a while back.
Kevin Trudeau's  MEGA MEMORY.
I picked this course up at the flea market last weekend for $2,intending on 
selling it on Ebay
The going price is $14.95 so i guess i'll keep it. 



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Re: CSAsthma and CS, again.

2005-08-09 Thread twllLL

Try this site  consider getting the water cure book
http://watercure.com
He uses water  salt to cure Asthma  one of the things he suggest 
asthmatics stay away
from is orange juice ! 



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Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease

2005-08-09 Thread mborgert
Rowena,
 also would like to know how to order Slackstone.  When you find out please 
advise.

Mary
-- Original message from Rowena new...@aapt.net.au: 
-- 



Sandee, thanks for the link.  Very interesting article, especially to those of 
us treating Fibromyalgia, fibrositis as was, where the tissues are said to be 
carrying loads of calcium phosphate.  CSers have been discussing Slackstone 
recently, and I really do want to get on and work out how to get a money order 
to Spain and then how to make sure Australian Customs let it through.  
Guaifenesin-using FMSers believe the guai enables the body to excrete the 
phosphate in certain circumstances (if salicylates, which fit better, don't get 
to the kidney receptors first).  Is increased dosage of CS an answer to 
targetting the nanobacteria?  I know some take pints and quarts of it.  I've 
never gone up to those quantities.  What is current CS thinking on fighting 
nanobacteria?
Rowena

Click here: NEXUS: Nanobacteria, Calcification  Heart Disease

CSRe: Protection/Water Treatments

2005-08-09 Thread Christine Carleton
Jill,

A couple of suggestions re water.  Explore and consider the benefits of
intention.   Dr. Marasu Emoto's site  http://www.hado.net/ many assist.  Put
your 'message' on your water.  It will help.

From my perspective:
1. By principal I do not engage energies beyond the wisdom of the divine
being.  Angel water comes from beyond my scope of verifiable knowledge. As
an energy medicine practitioner, I have experience that some of them are
also sick, and/or have facades which one would not engage if they looked
deeper.  
2. Magnets are a metal that resonate to a specific frequency.  If one's
health is compromised, magnets support increasing the internal frequency..
If one's health and vitality are high, magnets compromise and drain one's
energy.. Magnets are effectively a static tool that can be a helpful tool
subject specific personal frequency.
3. Essential oils (GRAS quality - generally recognised by FDA as safe for
internal consumption - food quality and consumable) are alive, address
frequency, and may assist with parasites, viruses, bacteria in water, and
have a variety of frequencies.  Our biorhythm changes by the hour subject to
the time and organ which is predominate on the 24 hour clock so oils have
the ability to address these natural cyclical changes.
4. CS water has historical benefits - personal research is important to
verify benefits.
5.  Neuro muscular feedback is an effective tool to ascertain which is
optimal - it will change as one develops.
6.  Some systems have literally cleaned polluted environmental problems in
Europe - eg Grandre water.
7. Some organs and endocrines are compromised with utilization of water, and
need to be individually addressed with the priority and direction by the
body to optimize the efficiency.
8.  Some people have too much water in their body systems and only require a
1 - 1.5 liters per day subject to their body constitution on the Traditional
Chinese system (water, earth, wood, fire and metal) dealing with Yin and
Yang balance to optimize their meridian and chakra functioning.

I find the Emoto system powerful, simple and effective.  Enhancement with CS
works.

Christine
http://mybodytalk.com
~

From: grace1...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:21:55 EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: Protection/Water Treatments
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 15:25:30 -0700


Very true indeed!  Protection does set up a mind-set of duality, as does
healing, and everything else we do in the realm of form.  Were it not for
means of protection from the Dark Forces, I would not longer be alive, but
would be on the other side of the balance-continuum of life and death.
Thanks to removing the Dark Force energy I have the opportunity to
consciously choose the nondual path.

Your comment about water and CS was provocative.  I have read that so much
can be done with water that promotes well-being on every level, but am not
well informed about the possibilities.  Do you know where would be a good
place to start?  I have heard of angel water, magnetized water, ozonated
water, Willard Water, water that has an alkalinating effect, etc., etc., but
would like to find a source that discusses the entire field of water
treatment, makes comparisons and draws conclusions.  The information
available seems to be from sources only offering one particular brand--for
sale.

Thanks for your valuable comments.

Jill





RE: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?

2005-08-09 Thread Wendy
Just out of curiosity, isn't it good for our children and us to get sick
and manage everyday  stuff like colds and flus on our own sometimes? 

Would always using CS, Echinacea/herbs, ozone therapy, urine therapy
etc. act as a crutch so that the body always needs help to fight an
infection thereby not making it as resistant/strong when exposed?

I guess what I am saying is if I get a cold and take a bunch of CS and
it nips a bug in the butt, doesn't that mean my body missed out on
tackling that all by itself and thereby missing out on a 'dump' of
toxins via bodily excretions or the body's own fever?

My friends children are true country kids and play outside amongst their
livestock etc., I shuddered when they picked up my dogs bones and were
throwing them for the dogs when they were here- however, that being said
they are rarely sick..  another friend has a small child in a
pristine environment, doesn't want her in sand/dirt and carries wipes
all the time, antibacterial soap etc they have been sick lots.

Just musing

Wendy




snip

Let me put it this way I am never without 
my C.S. even when travelling !   Especially when I am travelling
I use it in my eyes, nose plus the swig !   In my book dirt is the
breeding ground of all bugs regardless of what type they may be 
Man made antibiotics only hit certain ones, C.S. has a far wider 
range because of the way in which it works !!Most important
of which is that it does no harm while it works it's magic !
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Bruce Anderson

I, also, would appreciate a copy of that file.  

Thanks;
Bruce

Terry Chamberlin wrote:


Nenah Sylver said,
Ken,
If you go to http://www.emofree.com you can download a
manual for FREE and this meridian tapping technique
might help your daughter and your whole family.

Ken, EFT has been amazingly effective with asthma. EFT
tapping can be done on the child and even for the
child (on yourself in her place), with good results. I
have a tutorial file I can email you that shows you
how to do EFT. It's clearer than the instructions in
the emofree manual. Just let me know if you want it.

Just recently, I used EFT for a growing health issue
that frequently appears after middle age: frequent
nighttime trips to the bathroom. On the FIRST day I
tapped about it, just before bed, instead of getting
up every two hours, I slept all night. Coincidence,
obviously, my mind whispered to me. But it's been
nearly a week now, and I am sleeping all night each
night. Haven't done that in a long time.

I used EFT with a young lady (grand-daughter of a
client) who was in the middle of some kind of mental
breakdown - she had dropped out of college, slept 18
hours/day, and cried every minute she was conscious. I
met with her 5 Saturdays in a row, doing EFT with her.
At the end of that time, she went back to college
radiant. Amazing.

Terry Chamberlin







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CSAsthma and EFT

2005-08-09 Thread Deborah Gerard
Hi Terrry,
I would be interested in the EFT file too if you wouldn't mind...
thanks ..debbie


RE: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?

2005-08-09 Thread Teri Johnston



Hi Wendy,


At 08:34 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote:



My friends children are true country kids and play outside amongst their
livestock etc., I shuddered when they picked up my dogs bones and were
throwing them for the dogs when they were here- however, that being said
they are rarely sick..  another friend has a small child in a
pristine environment, doesn't want her in sand/dirt and carries wipes
all the time, antibacterial soap etc they have been sick lots.
I too played among the livestock on the farm as a child and made mud 
pies and ate them.  I did not tend to be ill until we sold the farm, 
moved to Florida and my mother kept a house that was really clean. LOL


Teri 



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Re: CSNanobacteria, -now isn't it good to get sick?

2005-08-09 Thread Rowena
Wendy said: Just out of curiosity, isn't it good for our children and us to get 
sick
and manage everyday  stuff like colds and flus on our own sometimes? 
Would always using CS, Echinacea/herbs, ozone therapy, urine therapy
etc. act as a crutch so that the body always needs help to fight an
infection thereby not making it as resistant/strong when exposed?

I guess what I am saying is if I get a cold and take a bunch of CS and
it nips a bug in the butt, doesn't that mean my body missed out on
tackling that all by itself and thereby missing out on a 'dump' of
toxins via bodily excretions or the body's own fever?

Rowena muses in her turn: In this particular case, having learned that 
nanobacteria would appear to be turning us to stone via the calcification 
process, one might not be worrying too much about colds and flu.  

These tiny nasties are so clever or small or well disguised they have evaded 
detection until now.  (Did you read the article? Click here: NEXUS: 
Nanobacteria, Calcification  Heart Disease )  Will CS or coconut oil or iodine 
or calendula or whatever actually rid the body of them?  I hope so, but I don't 
know so.  Will my body destroy the nanobacteria without intervention if it is 
not too overloaded fighting tetanus and coccidiosis and borellia and whatever?  
Maybe,  I hope so.  

The article seems to be saying a mix of elderly antibiotics will get rid of 
them, but I prefer not to use antibiotics, even if they are old, low-profit 
ones.  Maybe Rife or other electromedicine can zap them.  If these things are 
responsible for the pains I am experiencing now, apparently caused by the 
calcification that has been happening since I was a sweet young thing, Colds 
and Flu can go hang.  I much prefer to do without them, anyway.  Perhaps the 
people who don't get the flu etc. do get it, but overcome it, and the ones 
who get it are the ones whose bodies are overwhelmed because of factors X, Y 
and Z and can't deal with it without the symptoms.

In the instance of the farm dweller who moved to the city - who is to say what 
the major factors in lowered health were?  Different diet?  Different air?  
Sick building, increased chemical exposure, exhaust fumes, crowded public 
places, different and increased germ exposure, stress, culture shock, etc. 
etc.?  

I think the true horror of nipping bugs in the bud before they do their thing 
is when symptoms are masked by pharmaceuticals and the germ stored in the body 
for another time, rather than, as you say, the fever cooking them to death or 
whatever.  I am certainly against getting rid of the illnesses quickly and 
unnaturally by interference with the body's processes.  Homeopathic medicine, 
for instance, as I understand it, supports the body processes and allows the 
body to get rid of invaders its own way, with the natural and complete process. 
 If I can avoid that illness, though, or have it happen in my body without my 
being aware of it because there is not a great battle with millions of 
casualties, I'm enough of a wimp at my age to prefer it that way.  And if 
there's a way to zap the nanos and dissolve the calcium phosphates, yes please, 
let me get my shoes on!

Dreaming of a pain-free life
Rowena










Re: CSRe: Protection/Water Treatments

2005-08-09 Thread Grace1way
Christine:

Thank you SO much for all the information and suggestions.  I will definitely 
put some time and effort into following up on this.


Re: CSNanobacteria, Calcification Heart Disease

2005-08-09 Thread Rowena
 also would like to know how to order Slackstone.  When you find out please 
advise.

Mary, the discussion will be in the archives somewhere, but I will look up what 
I have for you.

Addresses:
http://www.slackstone.com/eng/useful_addresses.php?bf=1dm=0
Calexico USA; France, Scandinavia, Portugal, South America.  Made in Spain.

Here is the charming email I received:
Thank you very much by its interest. 
We do not have Distributor in Australia. 
We enclosed to him (in separate file) Ready of Prices for shipments from 
Madrid. 
Please, it indicates its mailing dress. 
Kindly,
Daniel J. Yborra Quesada
LAB YBORRA, S.L.
Luis I, 70
28031 MADRID (EspaƱa)
Telf. (+34) 913.803.285
Fax: (+34) 913.803.202
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The cost to Australia was 

For one unit 26 Euros, with freight, 37 Euros, total 63 Euros for one unit.
For 2 units, 52 Euros, freight 37, cost per unit 44,50 Euros  etc. 

I emailed to get the prices.  You have to send a money order, it's not 
available by on line payment.  How come the web has made it such a bind to get 
down to the bank or post office?
It's the customs officers I am most doubtful about!

Rowena