Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[M. G. Devour]

Careful, Dee! smile

You write:
 Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled. 

Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large 
molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one sort 
or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any actual 
cell.

 Everyone should know that CS only kills single celled varieties of
 bacteria and viruses and no-one claims that it does that I know of. 

Bacteria are *only* single celled organisms. 

Now, if you want to talk about parasites, then at least some of them 
will be multi-cellular!

 However, it is highly effective in treating these forms as everyone on
 this list knows.  Dee 

It is effective on nearly all bacterial infections. That we know. It 
seems to be effective on some viral infections at certain times -- for 
example, it seems you can stop a cold with CS if you catch it early 
enough. On the other hand, I can believe Scott's report of it not 
wiping out an established infection. It may have in some cases, but 
he's not alone.

CS may also be effective against some single celled pathogens besides 
bacteria, like yeast or fungus, but, as I think you intended to say, it 
is generally ineffective with more complex, multi-cellular organisms.

I hope that clears things up a little!

Be well,

Mike D.

 
 ---Original Message---
 
 From: ascottsil...@aol.com
 Date: 17/07/2008 05:58:41
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
  I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any
 scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who
 claims too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman
 that cannot be referenced to a scientific study.
 
 I hope this helps...
 
 Andy 
 
 

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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.  Everyone should know that
CS only kills single celled varieties of bacteria and viruses and no-one
claims that it does that I know of.  However, it is highly effective in
treating these forms as everyone on this list knows.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: ascottsil...@aol.com
Date: 17/07/2008 05:58:41
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
 I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any
scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who claims
too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman that cannot
be referenced to a scientific study.

I hope this helps...

Andy 

 

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[Dee]

This is brilliant Sharon!  Thanks for that.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Starshar
Date: 17/07/2008 04:40:06
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome
 
Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome?
 
Dan
**
 
Had this in my files.
 
Sharon
_
Sleep [2005] 28 (9) : 1069-1075
(Earley CJ, Connor JR, Beard JL, Clardy SL, Allen RP.)
 
Ferritin levels in the cerebrospinal fluid and restless legs syndrome:
effects of different clinical phenotypes.
 
STUDY OBJECTIVE: To determine whether patients with restless legs syndrome
(RLS) and controls differ in regard to levels of ferritin and transferrin in
the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) when samples are collected at night, to
determine whether patients with early-onset and late-onset RLS show a
different outcome for CSF values, and to determine whether the CSF ferritin
level correlates with disease severity.
 

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[Paula Perry]

Dan,
 Folic acid. I believe you need to take a substantial amount. I would take
the other B vitamins as well. I have read that it is related to a folic acid
deficiency. You would need to research it.
Paula
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:41 AM
Subject: CSRestless Leg Syndrome


Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome?

Dan


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CSRestless Legs Syndrome

[Paula Perry]

It seems that it is related to iron deficiency as well. Other info in link 
below. Paula

 
http://www.publix.com/wellness/notes/Display.do?id=ConcernchildId=Restless_Legs_Syndrome

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

Thanks for correcting me Mike, but this is what I have understood from some
article I have read on an actual silver site.  (can't find it now of course)
 I.e.. That some bacteria are not single celled or some viruses either.  If
what you say is correct, how is that silver kills some but not others? 
Could it maybe be that they *don't* have an external lung (for want of a
better word?)  As for colds, I have found that if silver is used it cuts
down the time span of the cold, and lessens the symptoms.  It certainly gets
rid of sore throats almost immediately.  I have had great success even with 
flu in my family.  It cuts the 'poorly' time by more than half.  I suppose
if we knew the answer to this then we would have the answers to a lot more! 
Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: M. G. Devour
Date: 17/07/2008 12:03:49
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
Careful, Dee! smile
 
You write:
 Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.
 
Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large
molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one sort
or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any actual
cell.
 
 Everyone should know that CS only kills single celled varieties of
 bacteria and viruses and no-one claims that it does that I know of.
 
Bacteria are *only* single celled organisms.
 
Now, if you want to talk about parasites, then at least some of them
will be multi-cellular!
 
 However, it is highly effective in treating these forms as everyone on
 this list knows.  Dee
 
It is effective on nearly all bacterial infections. That we know. It
seems to be effective on some viral infections at certain times -- for
example, it seems you can stop a cold with CS if you catch it early
enough. On the other hand, I can believe Scott's report of it not
wiping out an established infection. It may have in some cases, but
he's not alone.
 
CS may also be effective against some single celled pathogens besides
bacteria, like yeast or fungus, but, as I think you intended to say, it
is generally ineffective with more complex, multi-cellular organisms.
 
I hope that clears things up a little!
 
Be well,
 
Mike D.
 

 ---Original Message---

 From: ascottsil...@aol.com
 Date: 17/07/2008 05:58:41
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

  I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any
 scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who
 claims too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman
 that cannot be referenced to a scientific study.

 I hope this helps...

 Andy


 
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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

By the way, what is RNA please?  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: M. G. Devour
Date: 17/07/2008 12:03:49
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
Careful, Dee! smile
 
You write:
 Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.
 
Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large
molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one sort
or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any actual
cell.
 

CSA new virus called Website ?

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Dee,

 At 06:37 AM 7/17/2008, you wrote:

  How do I defend CS against this website?

Seems you have found a new bacteria or Virus,

   Called  Website   from the subject line.   grin

Maybe Mike and others can tell us about that one.

 kills some but not others?

 We must realize we are not super humans and we do not and cannot know 
everything.


The more we learn, the more we realize the things we do not know.

Seems there is an old quote that is something like this.

The more we learn, the more we realize that we know nothing.

 This is not to say,  Do not seek the truth.

 I have been seeking truth all my life,  and found a small amount of it.

 Likely I could sit around all day and write questions.

 The point is, don't worry too much about what you do not know, ... 
while seeking the answers.


 Then again, you could adapt the Redneck Method.   grin

 Often I pick a subject and study it for hundreds of hours, maybe 
thousands, maybe a year,  or two, or more.


 Of course I don't expect everyone to be as hard headed or as energetic as 
some Rednecks.


 I do get a lot of thrills from life, more than many people.

 One recently, you might find interesting, but I hate to tell it.

 Recently my two scientist friends visited me.

 They said they had build a Hydrogen generator, wanted me to come look at 
it and tell them how to improve it.


 What in heavens name made them thing I knew anything about a Hydrogen 
Generator ?


 I have studied them only a short time, have not even firmed up or 
organized the few facts I have learned.


 I can barely think of a good question at this point in  time.  Virtually 
everyone is way ahead of me on this subject.


 After much more study, I hope to be able to think of a decent question.

 Often people ask questions before they are able to understand the answers.

 I have often said,  They do not understand the question, much less the 
answer .


 Not talking about you of course or anyone in particular.

 Wayne

===








 Could it maybe be that they *don't* have an external lung (for want of a 
better word?)  As for colds, I have found that if silver is used it cuts 
down the time span of the cold, and lessens the symptoms.  It certainly 
gets rid of sore throats almost immediately.  I have had great success even 
with 'flu in my family.  It cuts the 'poorly' time by more than half.  I 
suppose if we knew the answer to this then we would have the answers to a 
lot more!  Dee


---Original Message---

From: mailto:mdev...@eskimo.comM. G. Devour
Date: 17/07/2008 12:03:49
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

Careful, Dee! smile

You write:
 Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.

Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large
molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one sort
or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any actual
cell.

 Everyone should know that CS only kills single celled varieties of
 bacteria and viruses and no-one claims that it does that I know of.

Bacteria are *only* single celled organisms.

Now, if you want to talk about parasites, then at least some of them
will be multi-cellular!

 However, it is highly effective in treating these forms as everyone on
 this list knows.  Dee

It is effective on nearly all bacterial infections. That we know. It
seems to be effective on some viral infections at certain times -- for
example, it seems you can stop a cold with CS if you catch it early
enough. On the other hand, I can believe Scott's report of it not
wiping out an established infection. It may have in some cases, but
he's not alone.

CS may also be effective against some single celled pathogens besides
bacteria, like yeast or fungus, but, as I think you intended to say, it
is generally ineffective with more complex, multi-cellular organisms.

I hope that clears things up a little!

Be well,

Mike D.


 ---Original Message---

 From: mailto:ascottsil...@aol.comascottsil...@aol.com
 Date: 17/07/2008 05:58:41
 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

  I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any
 scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who
 claims too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman
 that cannot be referenced to a scientific study.

 I hope this helps...

 Andy



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RE: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[M. G. Devour]

What he said!

Basically, RNA is one strand of the DNA double helix. Each strand of 
RNA is made up of a chain of amino acids, which can be in any sequence 
and number. There are several kinds of RNA, which do different jobs. It 
can transmit information within a cell, or act as the blueprint for 
building molecules of enzymes, proteins, and other important 
substances.

This would be a good thing to look up in Wikipedia.

Be well,

Mike D.

  DNA stands for deoxyribonucleic acid, while RNA stands for ribonucleic
 acid 
 
 Dan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:49 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
  
  If I remember right R stands for reverse, and is basically a 
  mirror image of DNA.  Some viruses work with the negative 
  so only one transcription has to be done instead of two when 
  replicating.
  
  Marshall
  
  Dee wrote:
   By the way, what is RNA please?  Dee

   /---Original Message---/

   /*From:*/ M. G. Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com /*Date:*/ 
   17/07/2008 12:03:49 /*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com 
   mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com /*Subject:*/ Re: CSHow do 
  I defend CS 
   against this website?

   Careful, Dee! smile

   You write:
Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.

   Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large
   molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one
   sort or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any
   actual cell.

  
 
  
  
  
  
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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[M. G. Devour]

Dear Dee,

You write:
 Thanks for correcting me Mike, but this is what I have understood from
 some article I have read on an actual silver site.  (can't find it now
 of course) I.e.. That some bacteria are not single celled or some
 viruses either.

Well, I've seen a fair amount of erroneous information on the websites 
of people trying to sell CS. Many are not any better informed than 
their customers. They only repeat what others have told them.

 If what you say is correct, how is that silver kills some but not
 others? Could it maybe be that they *don't* have an external lung (for
 want of a better word?) 

Somewhere back in the darkest early days of the rediscovery of 
colloidal silver, somebody wrote an article in a magazing claiming that 
silver kills bacteria by interfering with the enzyme that controls the 
respiration (breathing) of the cell, causing it to suffocate.

That article, whether accurate or not, has become the basis of 
thousands of web pages that re-state that claim with no more authority 
than they've seen it somewhere else. Sadly, it's one of the signs of 
a copycat, me-too, I don't really know what I'm talking about but it 
sure sounds good website. Another clue is any mention of CS kills 650 
diseases, which is another claim from the same article.

Such a process *may* play a role in CS' effectiveness, but if so it's 
not really explained fully anywhere I've seen.

 As for colds, I have found that if silver is used it cuts down the time
 span of the cold, and lessens the symptoms. It certainly gets rid of
 sore throats almost immediately.  I have had great success even with
 flu in my family.  It cuts the 'poorly' time by more than half.  I
 suppose if we knew the answer to this then we would have the answers to
 a lot more! Dee 

There are a couple of things at work in these results...

One, it seems that maybe CS can interfere directly with the processes 
that viruses use to infect cells, but we don't really know much about 
how it might do this. All we know is that plenty of people believe 
they've nipped a cold in the bud by taking large doses of CS at the 
very first signs of symptoms.

Another aspect is that nearly every viral infection is usually followed 
by a secondary, complicating bacterial infection which brings along 
another layer of even worse symptoms. Tissues affected by the virus are 
more vulnerable to bacteria. The CS prevents or minimizes the secondary 
infection, hastening recovery and reducing the severity of symptoms.

So, with colds and flu, you're able to keep it down to a *simple* viral 
infection which the body will normally clear in a week or two. Without 
CS, you'd almost inevitably pick up an additional case of strep or some 
other kind of bacteria, which makes things a lot worse.

Be well,

Mike D.

 
 ---Original Message---
  From: M. G. Devour
 Date: 17/07/2008 12:03:49
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
 Careful, Dee! smile
 
 You write:
  Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.
 
 Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large
 molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one sort
 or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any actual
 cell.
 
  Everyone should know that CS only kills single celled varieties of
  bacteria and viruses and no-one claims that it does that I know of.
 
 Bacteria are *only* single celled organisms.
 
 Now, if you want to talk about parasites, then at least some of them
 will be multi-cellular!
 
  However, it is highly effective in treating these forms as everyone on
  this list knows.  Dee
 
 It is effective on nearly all bacterial infections. That we know. It
 seems to be effective on some viral infections at certain times -- for
 example, it seems you can stop a cold with CS if you catch it early
 enough. On the other hand, I can believe Scott's report of it not wiping
 out an established infection. It may have in some cases, but he's not
 alone.
 
 CS may also be effective against some single celled pathogens besides
 bacteria, like yeast or fungus, but, as I think you intended to say, it
 is generally ineffective with more complex, multi-cellular organisms.
 
 I hope that clears things up a little!
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: ascottsil...@aol.com
  Date: 17/07/2008 05:58:41
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
   I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any
  scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who
  claims too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman
  that cannot be referenced to a scientific study.
 
  I hope this helps...
 
  Andy

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Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[Faith Gagne]

Soap didn't help me at all with muscle cramps, but drinking lots more water has 
helped me immensely, so I wonder if this would apply to restless legs also.  
Everything in the body dries out without enough water and the only way the body 
can get water is by drinking it.  I mention this only to point out how 
necessary it is to drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of water every day.  
I'm trying to drink a dozen or more glasses of water every day, and not having 
muscle cramps in my legs and feet at night while I am in bed trying to sleep is 
just one big bonus.  (Strike the word 'Big' and make that a 'HUGE bonus).   
While others are swilling down sodas, beers, lemonade, etc., I am guzzling iced 
water.   I drink it with meals too.  Anything to get it down. Can't beat it.  
Hope this helps.  Faith G. 

ps:  It took a few days for the leg and foot muscle cramps to go away.  They 
gradually lessened and stopped.  The water you drink doesn't go straight to 
your muscles because every part of the body needs water,  so it gets 
distributed throughout.  Your body needs water even to breathe.  (You can't 
even fog up a mirror without water in your body).   Now I might get a cramp 
here or there once in a blue moon, but it goes right away and I can handle it.  
I just keep drinking that water.

Also, I was assuring my doctor that I was drinking a couple of quarts of water 
every day and he would look skeptical.  I wondered why he didn't believe me.  
Then I decided to keep track of my daily intake, and on a piece of paper I 
started marking down each glass of water I drank.  My doctor was right.   I 
discovered that if I was drinking 3, maybe 4, glasses of water a day I was 
really doing something.   All that time I had been kidding myself and didn't 
realize it.  I was astonished.  


  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome


  Yes a dry bar of soap rub on legs bottom of feet.
  mary
-- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: 
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 On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dan Nave wrote: 
 
  Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome? 
  
  Dan 
  
 
 I have had some minor rls that was related to neurotoxins. Sauna or 
 sweating with wiping the sweat off immediately helped, and activated 
 charcoal doses might, if it is related to that. I was also taking some 
 omega 3 oils to help rebuild the neurons. You could figure I was going 
 to say that. ;-) 
 
 If it is caused by something else, the omega 3's might help over the 
 long term anyway, but not sure about the other. 
 
 
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CSRestless Leg Syndrome, Water and Electrolytes

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Faith,

 At 10:15 AM 7/17/2008, you wrote:

  While others are swilling down sodas, beers, lemonade, etc., I am 
guzzling iced water.   I drink it with meals too.


Guess what ?  I am right there with you on this issue.

I don't count the glasses, but I am never without one within reach.

 but drinking lots more water has helped me immensely, so I wonder if 
this would apply to restless legs also.  Everything in the body dries out 
without enough water and the only way the body can get water is by drinking it.


I tell everyone,  No matter what ails you, you will never get well without 
enough water.


Just don't forget the major minerals and electrolytes.  Another aspect just 
as important as the water.


Wayne

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Marshall Dudley]

Dee wrote:

Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled

There is no such thing as a multi celled virus. In fact there is no such 
thing as a virus cell at all, a virus is naked dna, and requires a 
living cell to replicate in.


Marshall
.  Everyone should know that CS only kills single celled varieties of 
bacteria and viruses and no-one claims that it does that I know of.  
However, it is highly effective in treating these forms as everyone on 
this list knows.  Dee
 
/---Original Message---/
 
/*From:*/ ascottsil...@aol.com mailto:ascottsil...@aol.com

/*Date:*/ 17/07/2008 05:58:41
/*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
/*Subject:*/ Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
 I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any 
scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who 
claims too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman 
that cannot be referenced to a scientific study.


I hope this helps...

Andy
 
 








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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Marshall Dudley]

If I remember right R stands for reverse, and is basically a mirror 
image of DNA.  Some viruses work with the negative so only one 
transcription has to be done instead of two when replicating.


Marshall

Dee wrote:

By the way, what is RNA please?  Dee
 
/---Original Message---/
 
/*From:*/ M. G. Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com

/*Date:*/ 17/07/2008 12:03:49
/*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
/*Subject:*/ Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
Careful, Dee! smile
 
You write:

 Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.
 
Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large

molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one sort
or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any actual
cell.
 








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RE: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dan Nave]

 DNA stands for deoxyribonucleic acid, while RNA stands for ribonucleic
acid 

Dan

 -Original Message-
 From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:49 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
 If I remember right R stands for reverse, and is basically a 
 mirror image of DNA.  Some viruses work with the negative 
 so only one transcription has to be done instead of two when 
 replicating.
 
 Marshall
 
 Dee wrote:
  By the way, what is RNA please?  Dee
   
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  17/07/2008 12:03:49 /*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com 
  mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com /*Subject:*/ Re: CSHow do 
 I defend CS 
  against this website?
   
  Careful, Dee! smile
   
  You write:
   Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.
   
  Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large 
  molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one 
  sort or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any 
  actual cell.
   
 
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[Dan Nave]

 Thanks for everyone that replied about Restless Leg Syndrome.  A few
questions...

Why is the soap on the legs supposed to work?

What does the study of levels of ferritin and transferrin mean?  Does it
suggest any modalities to alleviate this condition?

Anyone know offhand how much folic acid might be required?

Thanks,

Dan


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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dr. James Paul]

This is to Andy,
Question:
So why are you still taking CS for more than 10 yrs if it has no any benefit
to your health?
Just for curiosity.

james

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:

  Hi Cyndi,

 To the best of my knowledge peginterferon and ribavirin are the only things
 that have successfully been used to treat HCV. The cost is about $3,000 a
 month, the side affects can be bad and there is no guarantee that it will
 work. There are clinical trials going on searching for a better cure.

 http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/

 I've had HCV 1b for 30 years and have been taking CS for about 10 years.
 I've taken huge amounts and it has done nothing to lower my viral load. I
 don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any
 scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who claims
 too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman that cannot
 be referenced to a scientific study.

 I hope this helps...

 Andy

  In a message dated 7/14/2008 1:27:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 cyndia...@earthlink.net writes:

 I mentioned on a hep c group that I take CS and they posted this link:
 http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c

 I know most of it isn't true. How can I show them?

 Cyndi


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RE: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[mborgert]

re: soap
I do not know why it works but it does. at first it did not but after a few nights I was amazed that it worked at all. google it!!
Mary
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Re: CSA new virus called Website ?

[Dee]

I am not sure if I've missed something here, but I didn't actually write 
how do I defend CS against this website' I was answering the postee (or
trying to)  I also think I sort of said just this We must realize we are
not super humans and we do not and cannot know everything.  The more we
learn, the more we realize the things we do not know.

As I think I said before in a previous post, I still feel I should make the
effort and ask, and then at least, I may find an answer.  You never know. 
Dee



---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 07/17/08 14:13:28
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSA new virus called Website ?
 
Morning Dee,

 At 06:37 AM 7/17/2008, you wrote:

  How do I defend CS against this website?

Seems you have found a new bacteria or Virus,

   Called  Website   from the subject line.   grin

Maybe Mike and others can tell us about that one.

 After much more study, I hope to be able to think of a decent question.

 Often people ask questions before they are able to understand the answers.

 I have often said,  They do not understand the question, much less the
answer .

 Not talking about you of course or anyone in particular.

 Wayne

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[cyndiann9]

ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:

Hi Cyndi,

To the best of my knowledge peginterferon and ribavirin are the only 
things that have successfully been used to treat HCV. The cost is about 
$3,000 a month, the side affects can be bad and there is no guarantee 
that it will work. There are clinical trials going on searching for a 
better cure.


http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/

I've had HCV 1b for 30 years and have been taking CS for about 10 years. 
I've taken huge amounts and it has done nothing to lower my viral load. 
I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any 
scientific studies that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who 
claims too much about CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman 
that cannot be referenced to a scientific study.


I hope this helps...

Andy


It's lowered mine over the past year from 14 million to less than three. 
 However, the alopathic method wipes it out as fast as 4 weeks although 
the problem is that many times it doesn't stay gone. I have 2A if I 
remember correctly which is supposed to be a good thing. The doctor told 
me today that if I did go to their clinic I may be able to get by with 
as little as 3 months and at the most 6. I'm going to make a decision 
once I get the results back and I have a liver biopsy.


There are two other protocols that I've been trying as well. One is 
using alpha lipoic acid, selenium and milk thistle. I've been on this 
for 2-3 months now.


The other is oleander soup, home made. I took it a week or two, taking 
more and more each day. However, it killed the energy I picked up from 
the CS and the ALA. I stopped taking it for now but I will be back on it 
at some point. Next time I will take less and build up slower.


Hopefully between the three I come up very little if any results from 
the viral load test. We will see!


Cyndi


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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

I stand corrected.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 17/07/2008 17:43:37
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
Dee wrote:
 Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled

There is no such thing as a multi celled virus. In fact there is no such
thing as a virus cell at all, a virus is naked dna, and requires a
living cell to replicate in.
 

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

Thank you Marshall.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 17/07/2008 17:50:08
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
If I remember right R stands for reverse, and is basically a mirror
image of DNA.  Some viruses work with the negative so only one
transcription has to be done instead of two when replicating.
 
Marshall
 

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Marshall Dudley]

Dan Nave wrote:

 DNA stands for deoxyribonucleic acid, while RNA stands for ribonucleic
acid 


Dan
  

I guess I was half right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_transcriptase

In biochemistry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochemistry, a *reverse 
transcriptase*, also known as *RNA-dependent DNA polymerase*, is a DNA 
polymerase http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_polymerase enzyme 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzyme that transcribes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcription_%28genetics%29 
single-stranded RNA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA into 
double-stranded DNA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA. Normal 
transcription involves the synthesis of RNA from DNA; hence, reverse 
transcription is the /reverse/ of this.


That's what I get for trying to go from memory instead of looking it up.

Marshall
  

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:49 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

If I remember right R stands for reverse, and is basically a 
mirror image of DNA.  Some viruses work with the negative 
so only one transcription has to be done instead of two when 
replicating.


Marshall

Dee wrote:


By the way, what is RNA please?  Dee
 
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/*From:*/ M. G. Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com /*Date:*/ 
17/07/2008 12:03:49 /*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com /*Subject:*/ Re: CSHow do 
  
I defend CS 


against this website?
 
Careful, Dee! smile
 
You write:
  

Well no, it won't if the virus is multi celled.

 
Viruses, by definition, are not even one-celled. They are large 
molecules of DNA or RNA, possibly with a protective coating of one 
sort or another. They are *much* smaller and less complex than any 
actual cell.
 




  


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RE: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

Will do. Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: M. G. Devour
Date: 17/07/2008 19:52:20
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
What he said!
 
Basically, RNA is one strand of the DNA double helix. Each strand of
RNA is made up of a chain of amino acids, which can be in any sequence
and number. There are several kinds of RNA, which do different jobs. It
can transmit information within a cell, or act as the blueprint for
building molecules of enzymes, proteins, and other important
substances.
 
This would be a good thing to look up in Wikipedia.
 
Be well,
 
Mike D.
 

RE: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

Thanks Dan.  I am going to keep this info, and hope I can find it when
needed again!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Dan Nave
Date: 17/07/2008 18:10:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
  DNA stands for deoxyribonucleic acid, while RNA stands for ribonucleic
acid
 
Dan
 

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

I did click on this but I'm afraid this is a bit beyond me.  At least I now
know that viruses are *not* cells so that has made the day worthwhile.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 17/07/2008 21:10:38
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
Dan Nave wrote:
  DNA stands for deoxyribonucleic acid, while RNA stands for ribonucleic
 acid

 Dan

I guess I was half right.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_transcriptase
 

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Dee]

Your mention of the 650 bacteria rang a bell and I am sure this is the site
I'm talking about Mike.  Unfortunately, I have passed this erroneous
information on, as you said.  And thank you for your explanation of what
could happen in the instances of viral infections; another thing I will keep
and hopefully be able to produce again!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: M. G. Devour
Date: 17/07/2008 20:13:39
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?
 
Dear Dee,
 
 
There are a couple of things at work in these results...
 
One, it seems that maybe CS can interfere directly with the processes
that viruses use to infect cells, but we don't really know much about
how it might do this. All we know is that plenty of people believe
they've nipped a cold in the bud by taking large doses of CS at the
very first signs of symptoms.
 
Another aspect is that nearly every viral infection is usually followed
by a secondary, complicating bacterial infection which brings along
another layer of even worse symptoms. Tissues affected by the virus are
more vulnerable to bacteria. The CS prevents or minimizes the secondary
infection, hastening recovery and reducing the severity of symptoms.
 
So, with colds and flu, you're able to keep it down to a *simple* viral
infection which the body will normally clear in a week or two. Without
CS, you'd almost inevitably pick up an additional case of strep or some
other kind of bacteria, which makes things a lot worse.
 
Be well,
 
Mike D.
 

CSbreast cancer

[Shirley Reed]

   People also need to know that both fibroid cysts in the breasts  and
hypothyroidism usually precede breast  cancer and that a sufficient intake
of the two forms of iodine in Lugol's Solution will eliminate both
conditions.   pj  Let him (her) that has ears to hear, hear, and whoever has
a computer to research this, do so.

Re: CSbreast cancer

[Deborah Gerard]

I have a question what if you use the Lugols topically instead of internally? 
thanks debbie

--- On Thu, 7/17/08, Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com
Subject: CSbreast cancer
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 5:56 PM



   People also need to know that both fibroid cysts in the breasts  and 
hypothyroidism usually precede breast  cancer and that a sufficient intake of 
the two forms of iodine in Lugol's Solution will eliminate both conditions.   
pj  Let him (her) that has ears to hear, hear, and whoever has a computer to 
research this, do so.


  

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[AScottSilver]

This is to james,
Answer:
Re-read my post. I did not say it has no any benefit to my  health.
 
Andy 
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:01:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
jpmbu...@gmail.com writes:

 
This is to Andy,
Question:
So why are you still taking CS for more than 10 yrs if it has no any  benefit 
to your health?
Just for curiosity.
 
james 


On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM, _ascottsil...@aol.com_ 
(mailto:ascottsil...@aol.com)  wrote:


Hi Cyndi,

To the best of my knowledge peginterferon and  ribavirin are the only things 
that have successfully been used to treat HCV.  The cost is about $3,000 a 
month, the side affects can be bad and there is  no guarantee that it will 
work. 
There are clinical trials going on searching  for a better cure. 

_http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/_ (http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/) 

I've had HCV 1b for  30 years and have been taking CS for about 10 years. 
I've taken huge amounts  and it has done nothing to lower my viral load. I 
don't 
think CS can kill  virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any scientific 
studies that indicate  that it can.  Beware of anyone who claims too much about 
CS. 
It is  usually just testimony from a salesman that cannot be referenced to a  
scientific study.

I hope this helps...

Andy 



In a message dated 7/14/2008 1:27:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
_cyndia...@earthlink.net_ (mailto:cyndia...@earthlink.net)  writes:

I  mentioned on a hep c group that I take CS and they posted this link:
_http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c_ 
(http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c) 

I  know most of it isn't true. How can I show  them?

Cyndi


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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[AScottSilver]

Hi Cyndi,

That's great that it's working for you. It's my  understanding that some 
genotypes are tougher to get rid of than others. Also, I  think the damn thing 
can 
transform into a more resilient form that can be  tougher to get rid of. An 
excellent information and support group can be found  at this web site:
http://www.hepatitis.org.uk/

Be careful with the  oleander soup:
Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants and contains  numerous toxic  
compounds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleander

Anyhow, good luck  with your fight against the dragon!

Best wishes,
Andy



In a message dated 7/17/2008 12:50:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
cyndia...@earthlink.net writes:


It's  lowered mine over the past year from 14 million to less than three. 
However, the alopathic method wipes it out as fast as 4 weeks although 
the  problem is that many times it doesn't stay gone. I have 2A if I 
remember  correctly which is supposed to be a good thing. The doctor told 
me today  that if I did go to their clinic I may be able to get by with 
as little as  3 months and at the most 6. I'm going to make a decision 
once I get the  results back and I have a liver biopsy.

There are two other protocols  that I've been trying as well. One is 
using alpha lipoic acid, selenium  and milk thistle. I've been on this 
for 2-3 months now.

The other  is oleander soup, home made. I took it a week or two, taking 
more and more  each day. However, it killed the energy I picked up from 
the CS and the  ALA. I stopped taking it for now but I will be back on it 
at some point.  Next time I will take less and build up slower.

Hopefully between the  three I come up very little if any results from 
the viral load test. We  will see!

Cyndi


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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[bbanever]

Andy,

  Have you tried MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement)?  This is a 28% sodium 
chlorite solution mixed with an acid such as citric acid, vinegar, lemon or 
lime juice to make chlorine dioxide.   Try googling MMS for info this might 
be the answer to your problem.

 Virus are very difficult to inactivate sometimes frequencies sometimes 
work (RIfe and others).  The problem with silver is that the ion has to contact 
the virus directly in order to deactivate it.  Since the live inside of cells 
they are pretty much protected from silver ions.  Not so with chlorine 
dioxide... it is readily absorbed by your cells as they can't tell the 
difference between this and oxygen... then poof!   Oxidation takes place and 
the virus is vaproized leaving the cell untouched.  

Check it out.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: ascottsil...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:20 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?


  This is to james,
  Answer:
  Re-read my post. I did not say it has no any benefit to my health.

  Andy 

  In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:01:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
jpmbu...@gmail.com writes:
This is to Andy,
Question:
So why are you still taking CS for more than 10 yrs if it has no any 
benefit to your health?
Just for curiosity.

james 


On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:

  Hi Cyndi,

  To the best of my knowledge peginterferon and ribavirin are the only 
things that have successfully been used to treat HCV. The cost is about $3,000 
a month, the side affects can be bad and there is no guarantee that it will 
work. There are clinical trials going on searching for a better cure. 

  http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/

  I've had HCV 1b for 30 years and have been taking CS for about 10 years. 
I've taken huge amounts and it has done nothing to lower my viral load. I don't 
think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any scientific studies 
that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who claims too much about CS. It 
is usually just testimony from a salesman that cannot be referenced to a 
scientific study.

  I hope this helps...

  Andy 


  In a message dated 7/14/2008 1:27:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
cyndia...@earthlink.net writes:
I mentioned on a hep c group that I take CS and they posted this link:
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c

I know most of it isn't true. How can I show them?

Cyndi


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RE: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[bob Larson]

something i found amusing some time ago was on the quackwatch site.  reading
about Rife, they somehow transplanted the kills 650 germs, virus,
bacteria... spiel from CS promoters to Rife.  it's the ONLY only place i've
ever seen that claim for Rife.

 i don't doubt CS can kill at least 650 different pathogens... maybe not as
effectively as some other things will, but with sustained contact they'll
end up dead.  i don't think Rife technology kills a thing directly, but is
often capable of mobilizing the body somehow to do the job.  Rife applied
freqs might somehow directly make the bugs more susceptible to being
damaged, at least for awhile.  hopefully i'm wrong about that.
  -Original Message-
  From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
  Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:34 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?


Your mention of the 650 bacteria rang a bell and I am sure this is
the site I'm talking about Mike.  Unfortunately, I have passed this
erroneous information on, as you said.  And thank you for your explanation
of what could happen in the instances of viral infections; another thing I
will keep and hopefully be able to produce again!  Dee

---Original Message---

From: M. G. Devour
Date: 17/07/2008 20:13:39
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

Dear Dee,


There are a couple of things at work in these results...

One, it seems that maybe CS can interfere directly with the
processes
that viruses use to infect cells, but we don't really know much
about
how it might do this. All we know is that plenty of people believe
they've nipped a cold in the bud by taking large doses of CS at
the
very first signs of symptoms.

Another aspect is that nearly every viral infection is usually
followed
by a secondary, complicating bacterial infection which brings along
another layer of even worse symptoms. Tissues affected by the virus
are
more vulnerable to bacteria. The CS prevents or minimizes the
secondary
infection, hastening recovery and reducing the severity of symptoms.

So, with colds and flu, you're able to keep it down to a *simple*
viral
infection which the body will normally clear in a week or two.
Without
CS, you'd almost inevitably pick up an additional case of strep or
some
other kind of bacteria, which makes things a lot worse.

Be well,

Mike D.

Re: CSHow do I defend CS -oleander

[Clayton Family]

speaking of oleander, a child where I grew up *died* from eating one 
leaf of it. --kathryn


On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:51 PM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:



Hi Cyndi,

That's great that it's working for you. It's my understanding that 
some genotypes are tougher to get rid of than others. Also, I think 
the damn thing can transform into a more resilient form that can be 
tougher to get rid of. An excellent information and support group can 
be found at this web site:

http://www.hepatitis.org.uk/

Be careful with the oleander soup:
Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants and contains numerous 
toxic compounds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleander

Anyhow, good luck with your fight against the dragon!

Best wishes,
Andy
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 12:50:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
cyndia...@earthlink.net writes:


It's lowered mine over the past year from 14 million to less than 
three.
  However, the alopathic method wipes it out as fast as 4 weeks 
although

the problem is that many times it doesn't stay gone. I have 2A if I
remember correctly which is supposed to be a good thing. The doctor 
told

me today that if I did go to their clinic I may be able to get by with
as little as 3 months and at the most 6. I'm going to make a decision
once I get the results back and I have a liver biopsy.

There are two other protocols that I've been trying as well. One is
using alpha lipoic acid, selenium and milk thistle. I've been on this
for 2-3 months now.

The other is oleander soup, home made. I took it a week or two, taking
more and more each day. However, it killed the energy I picked up from
the CS and the ALA. I stopped taking it for now but I will be back on 
it

at some point. Next time I will take less and build up slower.

Hopefully between the three I come up very little if any results from
the viral load test. We will see!

Cyndi


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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[Clayton Family]

This is to Andy-

we are all waiting with bated breath to find out what you did use it 
for. ;-)


kathryn


On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:20 PM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:



This is to james,
Answer:
Re-read my post. I did not say it has no any benefit to my health.
 
Andy 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:01:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
jpmbu...@gmail.com writes:


This is to Andy,
Question:
So why are you still taking CS for more than 10 yrs if it has no any 
benefit to your health?

Just for curiosity.
 
james

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:


Hi Cyndi,

To the best of my knowledge peginterferon and ribavirin are the only 
things that have successfully been used to treat HCV. The cost is 
about $3,000 a month, the side affects can be bad and there is no 
guarantee that it will work. There are clinical trials going on 
searching for a better cure.


http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/

I've had HCV 1b for 30 years and have been taking CS for about 10 
years. I've taken huge amounts and it has done nothing to lower my 
viral load. I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I 
haven't seen any scientific studies that indicate that it can.  
Beware of anyone who claims too much about CS. It is usually just 
testimony from a salesman that cannot be referenced to a scientific 
study.


I hope this helps...

Andy
 
In a message dated 7/14/2008 1:27:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
cyndia...@earthlink.net writes:
I mentioned on a hep c group that I take CS and they posted this 
link:

http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c

I know most of it isn't true. How can I show them?

Cyndi



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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[AScottSilver]

Thanks Bob,
 
I'll look into MMS. I've built the Rife machine that uses a CB radio, audio  
generator, RF amplifier, hand blown glass bulb, etc. It was fun to build but 
it  didn't do much. Maybe I didn't have the right frequencies.
 
Regards,
Andy
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 6:06:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
bbane...@earthlink.net writes:

Andy,
 
  Have you tried MMS (Miracle Mineral  Supplement)?  This is a 28% sodium 
chlorite solution mixed with an acid  such as citric acid, vinegar, lemon or 
lime juice to make chlorine  dioxide.   Try googling MMS for info this 
might be the answer to  your problem.
 
 Virus are very difficult to inactivate  sometimes frequencies 
sometimes work (RIfe and others).  The problem  with silver is that the ion has 
to 
contact the virus directly in order to  deactivate it.  Since the live inside 
of cells they are pretty much  protected from silver ions.  Not so with 
chlorine dioxide... it is  readily absorbed by your cells as they can't tell 
the 
difference between this  and oxygen... then poof!   Oxidation takes place and 
the 
virus is  vaproized leaving the cell untouched.  
 
Check it out.
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From:  _ascottsil...@aol.com_ (mailto:ascottsil...@aol.com)  
To: _silver-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:20  PM
Subject: Re: CSHow do I defend CS  against this website?


This is to james,
Answer:
Re-read my post. I did not say it has no any benefit to my  health.
 
Andy 
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:01:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
_jpmbu...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jpmbu...@gmail.com)  writes:

 
This is to Andy,
Question:
So why are you still taking CS for more than 10 yrs if it has no any  benefit 
to your health?
Just for curiosity.
 
james 


On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM, _ascottsil...@aol.com_ 
(mailto:ascottsil...@aol.com)  wrote:


Hi Cyndi,

To the best of my knowledge peginterferon and  ribavirin are the only things 
that have successfully been used to treat  HCV. The cost is about $3,000 a 
month, the side affects can be bad and  there is no guarantee that it will 
work. 
There are clinical trials going  on searching for a better cure. 

_http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/_ (http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/) 

I've had HCV 1b  for 30 years and have been taking CS for about 10 years. 
I've taken huge  amounts and it has done nothing to lower my viral load. I 
don't 
think CS  can kill virus in vivo, at least I haven't seen any scientific 
studies  that indicate that it can.  Beware of anyone who claims too much  
about 
CS. It is usually just testimony from a salesman that cannot be  referenced to 
a 
scientific study.

I hope this  helps...

Andy 



In a message dated 7/14/2008 1:27:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
_cyndia...@earthlink.net_ (mailto:cyndia...@earthlink.net)  writes:

I mentioned on a hep c group that I take CS and they posted  this link:
_http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c_ 
(http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c) 

I  know most of it isn't true. How can I show  them?

Cyndi


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Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

[AScottSilver]

Hi Kathryn,

I take it for health reasons. It wards off and gets rid  of bronchitis (I 
have COPD) as well as it seems to keep colds at bay. As Mike  said in an 
earlier 
post, it may have some effect on secondary bacterial  infections associated 
with colds and other viruses. I also rinse my mouth with  it to get rid of 
bated 
breath (^_^).

Kindest regards,
Andy
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 6:36:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
clay...@skypoint.com writes:

This is  to Andy-

we are all waiting with bated breath to find out what you did  use it 
for. ;-)

kathryn


On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:20 PM,  ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:


 This is to james,
  Answer:
 Re-read my post. I did not say it has no any benefit  to my health.
  
 Andy 
  
  In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:01:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
  jpmbu...@gmail.com writes:

 This is to  Andy,
 Question:
 So why are you still taking CS for  more than 10 yrs if it has no any 
 benefit to your  health?
 Just for curiosity.
  
  james

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM,  ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi  Cyndi,

 To the best of my knowledge  peginterferon and ribavirin are the only 
 things that have  successfully been used to treat HCV. The cost is 
 about $3,000  a month, the side affects can be bad and there is no 
  guarantee that it will work. There are clinical trials going on  
 searching for a better cure.

  http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/

 I've had HCV 1b  for 30 years and have been taking CS for about 10 
 years. I've  taken huge amounts and it has done nothing to lower my 
 viral  load. I don't think CS can kill virus in vivo, at least I 
  haven't seen any scientific studies that indicate that it can.   
 Beware of anyone who claims too much about CS. It is usually  just 
 testimony from a salesman that cannot be referenced to a  scientific 
 study.

 I hope this  helps...

 Andy
  
 In a message dated 7/14/2008 1:27:22 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
 cyndia...@earthlink.net  writes:
 I mentioned on a hep c group that I take CS and  they posted this 
 link:
  http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c

  I know most of it isn't true. How can I show  them?

 Cyndi


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Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[sol]

Mary,
 Do I understand you correctly that you actually rub a bar of soap on 
your feet and legs?
Reason I ask is I've heard of soap helping RLS before, but people were 
just putting an unwrapped bar of soap in the bed near the feet, they 
weren't actualy rubbing it on their skin, nor actually having feet or 
legs touch the soap at all. I thought it was kinda woo-woo, but they 
swore it worked.

sol

mborg...@att.net wrote:

re: soap
I do not know why it works but it does.  at first it did not but after 
a few nights I was amazed that it worked at all.  google it!!



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Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[Starshar]

Brilliant Sharon blushing modestly  G

You're welcome, Dee



This is brilliant Sharon!  Thanks for that.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Starshar
Date: 17/07/2008 04:40:06
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome?

Dan
**

Had this in my files.

Sharon
_
Sleep [2005] 28 (9) : 1069-1075
(Earley CJ, Connor JR, Beard JL, Clardy SL, Allen RP.)

Ferritin levels in the cerebrospinal fluid and restless legs syndrome: 
effects of different clinical phenotypes.

STUDY OBJECTIVE: To determine whether patients with restless legs 
syndrome (RLS) and controls differ in regard to levels of ferritin and 
transferrin in the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) when samples are collected at 
night, to determine whether patients with early-onset and late-onset RLS show a 
different outcome for CSF values, and to determine whether the CSF ferritin 
level correlates with disease severity.
   
  
   

Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

[mborgert]

Re: soap
Well, at first I did the unrapped bar of soap under the sheets it did noting for me, than I read that someone rubbed it on the skin and bottom of feet tried it ,it worked
I tried this a few weeks ago, now I hardly use it. But i well tell you that I usually have a glass of water and drink some at 10,12,2am. I can actually feel the legs relaxing, I used to also have leg cramps but not anymore.
They say to use only unsented soap I use Ivory. 
It may not work the first few times but keep it up, I just used a little swipe on both legs and bottom of feet.
Mary
-- Original message from sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: --  Mary,  Do I understand you correctly that you actually rub a bar of soap on  your feet and legs?  Reason I ask is I've heard of soap helping RLS before, but people were  just putting an unwrapped bar of soap in the bed near the feet, they  weren't actualy rubbing it on their skin, nor actually having feet or  legs touch the soap at all. I thought it was kinda woo-woo, but they  swore it worked.  sol   mborg...@att.net wrote:   re: soap   I do not know why it works but it does. at first it did not but after   a few nights I was amazed that it worked at all. google it!!--  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.   Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org   To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com   Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com   The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...   List maintainer: Mike Devour   

CSbreast cancer

[Shirley Reed]

  Deborah, it is my understanding that Lugol's used on the skin will be
absorbed to an extent.  But not enough to anywhere near approximate the
coastal Japanese intake, which seems to be very protective as regards
cancers of many types, with the exception of stomach cancer.  The lung
cancer rate in Japan is extremely low even though that nation has the
highest per capita consumption of cigarettes in the world.  And the rates
for breast cancer, ovarian cancer, prostate cancer and many others is very,
very low.  Sure is worth looking into, imho, and with a computer we can
actually get the information we need to make an informed decision about
this.  Very best wishes to all who look.   pj

CSWhere it started...

[AScottSilver]

Hi Mike et al,

The article is:
Our Mightiest Germ Fighter by  Jim Powell
Science Digest, March 1978

Thanks to eye-opening research,  silver is emerging as a wonder of modern 
medicine. An antibiotic kills perhaps a  half-dozen different kinds of disease 
organisms, but silver kills some 650.  Resistant strains fail to develop. 
Moreover, silver is virtually  nontoxic.

Best regards,
Andy
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 12:13:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
mdev...@eskimo.com writes:
 
snip

Somewhere back in the darkest early days of the rediscovery of  
colloidal silver, somebody wrote an article in a magazing claiming that  
silver kills bacteria by interfering with the enzyme that controls the  
respiration (breathing) of the cell, causing it to suffocate.

That  article, whether accurate or not, has become the basis of 
thousands of web  pages that re-state that claim with no more authority 
than they've seen it  somewhere else. Sadly, it's one of the signs of 
a copycat, me-too, I don't  really know what I'm talking about but it 
sure sounds good website. Another  clue is any mention of CS kills 650 
diseases, which is another claim from  the same article.

Such a process *may* play a role in CS' effectiveness,  but if so it's 
not really explained fully anywhere I've seen.


snip




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Re: CSA new virus called Website ?

[kimwally1]

Wayne Fugitt wrote:

Morning Dee,

 At 06:37 AM 7/17/2008, you wrote:

  How do I defend CS against this website?



 We must realize we are not super humans and we do not and cannot know 
everything.


The more we learn, the more we realize the things we do not know.

Seems there is an old quote that is something like this.

The more we learn, the more we realize that we know nothing.

 This is not to say,  Do not seek the truth.

 I have been seeking truth all my life,  and found a small amount of it.


Kim wrote:
I like the saying from Mark Twain - What gets us into trouble is not 
what we don't know-it's what we know for sure that just isn't so
I guess the best thing for all who search for truth is  to keep an open 
mind and be humble -that way we can continue to learn and grow.

cheers