Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Which bit is that Ole?  dee

On 10 Mar 2010, at 14:50, Ole Alstrup wrote:

> Read the original research, it is very clear.
> 
> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, 10 March, 2010 15:47:24
> Subject: Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C
> 
> I know--I know--I just get phased when all these conflicting pieces of info 
> keep popping up!  dee
> 
> On 10 Mar 2010, at 00:42, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Ole Alstrup]

Read the original research, it is very clear.





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, 10 March, 2010 15:47:24
Subject: Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

I know--I know--I just get phased when all these conflicting pieces of info 
keep popping up!  dee

On 10 Mar 2010, at 00:42, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> Uhhh, Dee...
> Brooks says it's all good.
> He's a bonafide researcher...
> Who you gonna trust?
> 
> Got that whiplash collar yet?
> 
>                     Chuck
> Barfingnewgen: German Car Sickness.
> 
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I know--I know--I just get phased when all these conflicting pieces of info 
keep popping up!  dee

On 10 Mar 2010, at 00:42, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> Uhhh, Dee...
> Brooks says it's all good.
> He's a bonafide researcher...
> Who you gonna trust?
> 
> Got that whiplash collar yet?
> 
>   Chuck
> Barfingnewgen: German Car Sickness.
> 
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[cking001]

Uhhh, Dee...
Brooks says it's all good.
He's a bonafide researcher...
Who you gonna trust?

Got that whiplash collar yet?

Chuck
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On 3/9/2010 3:09:14 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Oh Lord--I've just ordered loads of lecithin and sodium ascorbate!  I thought 
> this was supposed to be good!  dee
> 
> On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:48, Ole Alstrup wrote:
> 
> > I have read the existing scientific research on Liposomal C. from Hickey et 
> > al. The higher blood values comparable to IV use are only achieved with 
> > multiple higher oral dosages, at 5gr or above. I have not been able to 
> > substantiate the 98% absorption claim for lower dosages vs regular ascorbic 
> > acid/ascorbates, I believe it is an artificial deduction, one researcher 
> > measured the same blood values from 12grs of Ascorbic Acid vs 6grs of 
> > liposomal C. The question is also if the original commercial product (LivOn 
> > Labs) is made with whole lecithin or only certain phospholipid components 
> > of lecithin, this is still unclear. The Donasbach product seems to be made 
> > with several components, not the same as Livon. Also the question is if 
> > there is a special method of chelating the sodium ascorbate with the 
> > liposomal carrier. There is also the consideration of ingesting too much, 
> > perhaps toxic levels, of phospholipids with liposomal products. One 
> > relevant example is the high amount of phosphorus which can have a negative 
> > effect on calcium levels/absorption in the body.
> >
> 
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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Oh Lord--I've just ordered loads of lecithin and sodium ascorbate!  I thought 
this was supposed to be good!  dee

On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:48, Ole Alstrup wrote:

> I have read the existing scientific research on Liposomal C. from Hickey et 
> al. The higher blood values comparable to IV use are only achieved with 
> multiple higher oral dosages, at 5gr or above. I have not been able to 
> substantiate the 98% absorption claim for lower dosages vs regular ascorbic 
> acid/ascorbates, I believe it is an artificial deduction, one researcher 
> measured the same blood values from 12grs of Ascorbic Acid vs 6grs of 
> liposomal C. The question is also if the original commercial product (LivOn 
> Labs) is made with whole lecithin or only certain phospholipid components of 
> lecithin, this is still unclear. The Donasbach product seems to be made with 
> several components, not the same as Livon. Also the question is if there is a 
> special method of chelating the sodium ascorbate with the liposomal carrier. 
> There is also the consideration of ingesting too much, perhaps toxic levels, 
> of phospholipids with liposomal products. One relevant example is the high 
> amount of phosphorus which can have a negative effect on calcium 
> levels/absorption in the body. 
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Ole Alstrup]

I have read the existing scientific research on Liposomal C. from Hickey et al. 
The higher blood values comparable to IV use are only achieved with multiple 
higher oral dosages, at 5gr or above. I have not been able to substantiate the 
98% absorption claim for lower dosages vs regular ascorbic acid/ascorbates, I 
believe it is an artificial deduction, one researcher measured the same blood 
values from 12grs of Ascorbic Acid vs 6grs of liposomal C. The question is also 
if the original commercial product (LivOn Labs) is made with whole lecithin or 
only certain phospholipid components of lecithin, this is still unclear. The 
Donasbach product seems to be made with several components, not the same as 
Livon. Also the question is if there is a special method of chelating the 
sodium ascorbate with the liposomal carrier. There is also the consideration of 
ingesting too much, perhaps toxic levels, of phospholipids with liposomal 
products. One relevant example is
 the high amount of phosphorus which can have a negative effect on calcium 
levels/absorption in the body. 





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, 2 March, 2010 10:17:01
Subject: Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

When I ordered mine, the exchange rate was way in our favour, and it worked out 
to be about £90 and then I had to add the £20 VAT.  I didn't think this was too 
bad at all, but I don't think the dollar is that low at the moment.  I think if 
it is $145 then this is £97 in our money, so you would have to add on VAT to 
that.  I can't remember if this included postage, but maybe not.  I remember 
thinking it was all quite reasonable (apart from the bl...y VAT that is! which 
is the biggest con of all time!)  dee

On 1 Mar 2010, at 22:04, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> It depends on how much it costs Kirsteen.  I order everything from iHerb 
> which is in California I believe and the postage is as low as $4 if the 
> weight is less than 3lbs.  
> 
> That sounds good. They charge VAT on anything over £18 but they include the 
> cost of postage in that. I can cheerfully accept that - it was the extra £10 
> I had to pay the PO which seemed totally arbitrary to me. They couldn't even 
> explain it themselves - it was just pay up or don't get your parcel. They did 
> give me a phone no. I could phone to get an explanation but it was a premium 
> rate no so I gave up holding on before I spent even more than the original 
> cost. I guess they get you every which way :-)
> 
> I wanted to order the Silver Puppy but it's made me scared as I've no idea 
> what they'll add on so I don't know if I can afford it or not.
> 
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

When I ordered mine, the exchange rate was way in our favour, and it worked out 
to be about £90 and then I had to add the £20 VAT.  I didn't think this was too 
bad at all, but I don't think the dollar is that low at the moment.  I think if 
it is $145 then this is £97 in our money, so you would have to add on VAT to 
that.  I can't remember if this included postage, but maybe not.  I remember 
thinking it was all quite reasonable (apart from the bl...y VAT that is! which 
is the biggest con of all time!)  dee

On 1 Mar 2010, at 22:04, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> It depends on how much it costs Kirsteen.  I order everything from iHerb 
> which is in California I believe and the postage is as low as $4 if the 
> weight is less than 3lbs.  
> 
> That sounds good. They charge VAT on anything over £18 but they include the 
> cost of postage in that. I can cheerfully accept that - it was the extra £10 
> I had to pay the PO which seemed totally arbitrary to me. They couldn't even 
> explain it themselves - it was just pay up or don't get your parcel. They did 
> give me a phone no. I could phone to get an explanation but it was a premium 
> rate no so I gave up holding on before I spent even more than the original 
> cost. I guess they get you every which way :-)
> 
> I wanted to order the Silver Puppy but it's made me scared as I've no idea 
> what they'll add on so I don't know if I can afford it or not.
> 
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I second that.  iHerb has amazing rates.   Even very heavy items -- 
coconut oil for example -- to Japan are cheap from iHerb, because they 
use a Japanese-based shipping company, Yamato transport.



On Tuesday, Mar 2, 2010, at 05:22 Asia/Tokyo, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

If I am on anywhere but iHerb I always go to checkout and find out 
what the postage is going to be. 



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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> It depends on how much it costs Kirsteen.  I order everything from iHerb
> which is in California I believe and the postage is as low as $4 if the
> weight is less than 3lbs.
>

That sounds good. They charge VAT on anything over £18 but they include the
cost of postage in that. I can cheerfully accept that - it was the extra £10
I had to pay the PO which seemed totally arbitrary to me. They couldn't even
explain it themselves - it was just pay up or don't get your parcel. They
did give me a phone no. I could phone to get an explanation but it was a
premium rate no so I gave up holding on before I spent even more than the
original cost. I guess they get you every which way :-)

I wanted to order the Silver Puppy but it's made me scared as I've no idea
what they'll add on so I don't know if I can afford it or not.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

It depends on how much it costs Kirsteen.  I order everything from iHerb which 
is in California I believe and the postage is as low as $4 if the weight is 
less than 3lbs.  If it costs over a certain amount (which I can't remember) 
then you have to pay VAT like I did when I got my generator.  Most things I 
order are under $20 though, and I never pay tax on these.  If I am on anywhere 
but iHerb I always go to checkout and find out what the postage is going to be. 
 Usually I have to cancel because the cost is prohibitive.  dee

On 1 Mar 2010, at 18:50, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> This looked really good until I got to the postage!  It got to $28 for the 
> postage which was more than the Vit C!  dee
> 
> I'm afraid I've got really wary of ordering stuff from the US. Last order i 
> got came to $39 plus $15 for postage. i then had to pay £2+ tax which I 
> didn't mind but the PO added on a £10 ($14.88) 'handling charge' and wouldn't 
> release it til I'd paid this. How they can justify a handling charge when 
> they didn't even deliver it and postage had already been paid in full, I 
> don't know, but there it is, I didn't have much choice.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Kirsteen


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> This looked really good until I got to the postage!  It got to $28 for the
> postage which was more than the Vit C!  dee
>
> I'm afraid I've got really wary of ordering stuff from the US. Last order i
got came to $39 plus $15 for postage. i then had to pay £2+ tax which I
didn't mind but the PO added on a £10 ($14.88) 'handling charge' and
wouldn't release it til I'd paid this. How they can justify a handling
charge when they didn't even deliver it and postage had already been paid in
full, I don't know, but there it is, I didn't have much choice.


Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This looked really good until I got to the postage!  It got to $28 for the 
postage which was more than the Vit C!  dee

On 1 Mar 2010, at 15:50, Alan Jones wrote:

> From my original post in this thread:
> 
> Bill Henderson's Cancer Free newsletter mentions this new, inexpensive source 
> of Liposomal vitamin C.  It's softgels and works out to about 30 cents per 
> gram, verses $1.33 per gram from Livon Labs, and about 15 cents for the 
> homemade stuff.  I haven't tried it but am tempted...
> 
> http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Kina Ghos  wrote:
> Alan,
> What is that cheaper source of LET Vitamin C that you are talking about? And 
> how cheap is it?
> Wazir
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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Alan Jones]

>From my original post in this thread:

Bill Henderson's Cancer Free newsletter mentions this new, inexpensive
source of Liposomal vitamin C.  It's softgels and works out to about 30
cents per gram, verses $1.33 per gram from Livon Labs, and about 15 cents
for the homemade stuff.  I haven't tried it but am tempted...

http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm


On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Kina Ghos  wrote:

> Alan,
> What is that cheaper source of LET Vitamin C that you are talking about?
> And how cheap is it?
> Wazir
>
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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

You're absolutely right Chuck!  I do go into panic mode somewhat easily I must 
confess!  I have now sent off for the lecithin granules and am going to give 
the liposomal thing a whirl, so will no doubt there will be further hysterical 
out-pourings in a week or so !  dee

On 1 Mar 2010, at 01:16, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> Dee,
> You'd best get yourself a whiplash collar.
> All that thrashing about is going to do yourself a mischief (loved
> that phrase).
> 
>   Chuck
> Jeffrey's favorite recipes: Baked Alaskan.
> 
> On 2/28/2010 12:40:45 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[cking001]

Nope
Others are trying different stuff though...
Stay tuned...

Chuck
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On 2/28/2010 8:12:37 PM, Kina Ghos (kina...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Chuck,
> Have you ever tried to liposome any other nutrients? I want to try,
> especially, with Glutathione. But
> don't know how. Do you have any suggestion?
> Wazir
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM,  mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]> wrote:
> Dee,
> As a personal experiment,
> dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> Taste it.
> Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
> 
> Put it in a blender...
> add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> Blend for at least a full minute...
> Taste it.
> 
> Much milder?
> 
> If so,
> add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> Taste it...
> Still mild?
> 
> Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> palatable.
> Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
> 
> The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> I've
> done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
> 
>                                                Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on
> the roof and gets stuck.
> 
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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Kina Ghos]

Alan,
What is that cheaper source of LET Vitamin C that you are talking about? And
how cheap is it?
Wazir

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM,  wrote:

> Dee,
> As a personal experiment,
> dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> Taste it.
> Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
>
> Put it in a blender...
> add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> Blend for at least a full minute...
> Taste it.
>
> Much milder?
>
> If so,
> add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> Taste it...
> Still mild?
>
> Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> palatable.
> Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
>
> The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
>
>Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on
> the roof and gets stuck.
>
>
> On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> > For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the
> > postage is $28!  I asked them why they
> > don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but they say that is the
> only one they will use.  A real shame.  I buy from iHerb lots of things and
> they use DHL which is $12 and an International company which is only $4!
>  DHL only take three days to get it here to the UK as well. Brilliant!
>  Trouble is, they don't
> > stock the liposomal stuff!  dee
> >
> > On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have
> > the HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims
> > the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims
> > only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff
> > is a no-brainer.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
>
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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[cking001]

Dee,
You'd best get yourself a whiplash collar.
All that thrashing about is going to do yourself a mischief (loved
that phrase).

Chuck
Jeffrey's favorite recipes: Baked Alaskan.

On 2/28/2010 12:40:45 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> I have just dug deeper and the Vitamin C Foundation actually refute this
> article Louise.  They printed it but show in another article that it is
> WRONG.  I believe Brooks Bradley has also done a lot of research involving
> ascorbic acid with much success also.  They say that the work done by
> Linus Pauling is correct and that ascorbic acid *is* Vitamin C.  Please
> ignore my hysterical post below--sanity has returned!  dee
> 
> On 28 Feb 2010, at 17:13, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
> > Oh my goodness!   Now
> I'm back to the no supplements thing because of upsetting the balance of 
> things!  I've
> just bought a tub of sodium ascorbate as well!  dee
> >
> > On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:10, Louise Larabie wrote:
> >
> >> It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the
> >> synthetic ascorbic acid.
> >> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not
> even
> >> cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!!  But you do not also
> not gain
> >> vitality.
> >>
> >> Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve
> your
> >> health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so
> cheap.


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Kina Ghos]

Chuck,
Have you ever tried to liposome any other nutrients? I want to try,
especially, with Glutathione. But don't know how. Do you have any
suggestion?
Wazir

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM,  wrote:

> Dee,
> As a personal experiment,
> dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> Taste it.
> Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
>
> Put it in a blender...
> add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> Blend for at least a full minute...
> Taste it.
>
> Much milder?
>
> If so,
> add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> Taste it...
> Still mild?
>
> Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> palatable.
> Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
>
> The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
>
>Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on
> the roof and gets stuck.
>
>
> On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> > For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the
> > postage is $28!  I asked them why they
> > don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but they say that is the
> only one they will use.  A real shame.  I buy from iHerb lots of things and
> they use DHL which is $12 and an International company which is only $4!
>  DHL only take three days to get it here to the UK as well. Brilliant!
>  Trouble is, they don't
> > stock the liposomal stuff!  dee
> >
> > On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have
> > the HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims
> > the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims
> > only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff
> > is a no-brainer.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[cking001]

Dee,
I've been a C freak since Pauling first book on it in the seventies,
so I've seen great benefit all that time.

I'm excited about Brook's process for Lipo C because it gives us a way
to approximate IV treatment with super dosages.
My approach is semi-cautious in that my plan is to do this once a week
and observe.
Google vitamin C and IV
It's too early to draw any conclusions except that the method is
feasable.

My regular daily dose will continue as is.
I continue to be a clinical study of one...

Chuck
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On 2/28/2010 7:37:00 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Have you had any benefits from this Chuck?  dee
> 
> On 19 Feb 2010, at 00:21, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> 
> > Dee,
> > As a personal experiment,
> > dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> > Taste it.
> > Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
> >
> > Put it in a blender...
> > add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> > Blend for at least a full minute...
> > Taste it.
> >
> > Much milder?
> >
> > If so,
> > add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> > Taste it...
> > Still mild?
> >
> > Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> > palatable.
> > Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> > Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
> >
> > The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> >
> I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
> >
> > Chuck
> > Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on
> > the roof and gets stuck.
> >
> >
> > On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> >> For me it is 


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RE: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[cking001]

Uhhh
You'd best read the whole page in your link...
The rebuttals and comments are more convincing than the sales
promotion.

Chuck
I asked her her name. She said, 'It's Pataka.' I said, 'That's an
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On 2/28/2010 8:10:55 AM, Louise Larabie (louis...@gozoom.ca) wrote:
> It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the
> synthetic ascorbic acid.
> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even
> cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!!  But you do not also not
> gain
> vitality.
> 
> Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your
> health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And
> Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!!
> 
> Louise
> 
> >>
> >> On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>> I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I
> have
> >> the HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB
> claims
> >> the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he
> claims
> >> only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made
> stuff
> >> is a no-brainer.
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[sol]

At 10:40 AM 2/28/2010, you wrote:
I have just dug deeper and the Vitamin C Foundation actually refute 
this article Louise.  They printed it but show in another article 
that it is WRONG.  I believe Brooks Bradley has also done a lot of 
research involving ascorbic acid with much success also.  They say 
that the work done by Linus Pauling is correct and that ascorbic 
acid *is* Vitamin C.  Please ignore my hysterical post below--sanity 
has returned!  dee


Not to mention the fact that all mammals who make their own vit C "in 
house" make ascorbic acid, not "natural" vit C with bioflavonoids. 
That is the convincer for me.
Vit C IS ascorbic acid. Add bioflavonoids if you wish..you 
can purchase ascorbic acid that is not from China, but it is very 
expensive, there are links to it on the vit C foundation site.

sol


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I have just dug deeper and the Vitamin C Foundation actually refute this 
article Louise.  They printed it but show in another article that it is WRONG.  
I believe Brooks Bradley has also done a lot of research involving ascorbic 
acid with much success also.  They say that the work done by Linus Pauling is 
correct and that ascorbic acid *is* Vitamin C.  Please ignore my hysterical 
post below--sanity has returned!  dee

On 28 Feb 2010, at 17:13, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Oh my goodness!   Now I'm back to the no supplements thing because of 
> upsetting the balance of things!  I've just bought a tub of sodium ascorbate 
> as well!  dee
> 
> On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:10, Louise Larabie wrote:
> 
>> It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the
>> synthetic ascorbic acid.
>> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even
>> cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!!  But you do not also not gain
>> vitality.
>> 
>> Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your
>> health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And
>> Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!!
>> 
>> Louise
>> 
 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Oh my goodness!   Now I'm back to the no supplements thing because of upsetting 
the balance of things!  I've just bought a tub of sodium ascorbate as well!  dee

On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:10, Louise Larabie wrote:

> It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the
> synthetic ascorbic acid.
> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even
> cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!!  But you do not also not gain
> vitality.
> 
> Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your
> health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And
> Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!!
> 
> Louise
> 
>>> 


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RE: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Louise Larabie]

It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the
synthetic ascorbic acid.
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even
cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!!  But you do not also not gain
vitality.

Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your
health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And
Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!!

Louise

>> 
>> On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have
>> the HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims
>> the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims
>> only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff
>> is a no-brainer.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Have you had any benefits from this Chuck?  dee

On 19 Feb 2010, at 00:21, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> Dee,
> As a personal experiment,
> dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> Taste it.
> Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
> 
> Put it in a blender...
> add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> Blend for at least a full minute...
> Taste it.
> 
> Much milder?
> 
> If so,
> add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> Taste it...
> Still mild?
> 
> Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> palatable.
> Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
> 
> The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
> 
>   Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on
> the roof and gets stuck.
> 
> 
> On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
>> For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the
>> postage is $28!  I asked them why they
>> don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but they say that is the only 
>> one they will use.  A real shame.  I buy from iHerb lots of things and they 
>> use DHL which is $12 and an International company which is only $4!  DHL 
>> only take three days to get it here to the UK as well. Brilliant!  Trouble 
>> is, they don't
>> stock the liposomal stuff!  dee
>> 
>> On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have
>> the HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims
>> the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims
>> only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff
>> is a no-brainer.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
> 
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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Ok...not your fault Steve, probably mine - going into panic overdrive!  I am 
now my old calm (!) reasonable self ? so can look at it in perspective now.  
Thanks for all the info.  dee

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:03, Norton, Steve wrote:

> 
> Ok, now let me see if I can remove my foot from my mouth. :-)
> 
> 
> When I said I was leery of vitamin C and MSM I was talking relative to 
> someone reversing argyria. A person with argyria has probably been taking 
> large amounts of silver over a long period and has large amounts of silver 
> stored in their tissues. Some of it permanently (?) deposited and a lot of it 
> temporarly deposited. The two persons we know of here that have argyria were 
> taking silver in amounts 4 to 5 times more than was used in the 5 month 
> loading phase of the Altman study and look at how much silver had been 
> temporarily stored in Altman in those 5 months. Given how much silver still 
> resides in the tissues of an argyria sufferer I would be conservative and 
> avoid anything that might convert it to a more permanent form. It may be 
> that, like my suggestion with selenium, you wait for a period to eliminate 
> much of the temporarily stored silver before adding vitamin C and MSM.
> 
> IMO, the situation with a argyria sufferer is much different than someone 
> using typical amounts of silver. A typical user will not have much if any 
> silver stored in the tissues that can converted since they use amounts within 
> the excretion capability of the liver and kidney. 
> 
> Currently I take vitamin C daily and MSM periodically. I am not concerned 
> since I do not use excessive amounts of silver.
> 
> BTW, Vitamin C is more a concern when silver nitrate or MSP is used. While 
> that is not the case for members of the silver list there may be argyria 
> cases where that is the situation and I think those persons should be extra 
> cautious.
> 
> I guess that I will need to be more careful what I say and to be more clear 
> regarding the context of the comments.
> 
>  - Steve N
> 

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Norton, Steve]

Ok, now let me see if I can remove my foot from my mouth. :-) 


When I said I was leery of vitamin C and MSM I was talking relative to someone 
reversing argyria. A person with argyria has probably been taking large amounts 
of silver over a long period and has large amounts of silver stored in their 
tissues. Some of it permanently (?) deposited and a lot of it temporarly 
deposited. The two persons we know of here that have argyria were taking silver 
in amounts 4 to 5 times more than was used in the 5 month loading phase of the 
Altman study and look at how much silver had been temporarily stored in Altman 
in those 5 months. Given how much silver still resides in the tissues of an 
argyria sufferer I would be conservative and avoid anything that might convert 
it to a more permanent form. It may be that, like my suggestion with selenium, 
you wait for a period to eliminate much of the temporarily stored silver before 
adding vitamin C and MSM. 

IMO, the situation with a argyria sufferer is much different than someone using 
typical amounts of silver. A typical user will not have much if any silver 
stored in the tissues that can converted since they use amounts within the 
excretion capability of the liver and kidney.  

Currently I take vitamin C daily and MSM periodically. I am not concerned since 
I do not use excessive amounts of silver. 

BTW, Vitamin C is more a concern when silver nitrate or MSP is used. While that 
is not the case for members of the silver list there may be argyria cases where 
that is the situation and I think those persons should be extra cautious. 

I guess that I will need to be more careful what I say and to be more clear 
regarding the context of the comments. 

 - Steve N
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From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
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Subject: Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C
Sent: Feb 19, 2010 5:51 AM

I would NEVER give up on C.
It was my first megadose vitamin over 30 years ago.

Chuck
Polluting New Jersey...like who's gonna notice?

On 2/19/2010 7:10:08 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Thanks Chuck, but after
> Steve's post I think I am going to give up on the LET vit C - too risky after 
> the other stuff I read as well!  Maybe when I've
> calmed down and have returned to some semblance of reason and sanity!
> dee
> 
> On 19 Feb 2010, at 00:21, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> 
> > Dee,
> > As a personal experiment,
> > dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> > Taste it.
> > Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
> >
> > Put it in a blender...
> > add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> > Blend for at least a full minute...
> > Taste it.
> >
> > Much milder?
> >
> > If so,
> > add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> > Taste it...
> > Still mild?
> >
> > Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> > palatable.
> > Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> > Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
> >
> > The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> > I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
> >
> > Chuck
> > Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[cking001]

I would NEVER give up on C.
It was my first megadose vitamin over 30 years ago.

Chuck
Polluting New Jersey...like who's gonna notice?

On 2/19/2010 7:10:08 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Thanks Chuck, but after
> Steve's post I think I am going to give up on the LET vit C - too risky after 
> the other stuff I read as well!  Maybe when I've
> calmed down and have returned to some semblance of reason and sanity!
> dee
> 
> On 19 Feb 2010, at 00:21, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> 
> > Dee,
> > As a personal experiment,
> > dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> > Taste it.
> > Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
> >
> > Put it in a blender...
> > add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> > Blend for at least a full minute...
> > Taste it.
> >
> > Much milder?
> >
> > If so,
> > add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> > Taste it...
> > Still mild?
> >
> > Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> > palatable.
> > Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> > Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
> >
> > The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> > I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
> >
> > Chuck
> > Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Chuck, but after Steve's post I think I am going to give up on the LET 
vit C - too risky after the other stuff I read as well!  Maybe when I've calmed 
down and have returned to some semblance of reason and sanity!  dee

On 19 Feb 2010, at 00:21, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> Dee,
> As a personal experiment,
> dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
> Taste it.
> Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?
> 
> Put it in a blender...
> add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
> Blend for at least a full minute...
> Taste it.
> 
> Much milder?
> 
> If so,
> add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
> Taste it...
> Still mild?
> 
> Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
> palatable.
> Bowel tolerance is also improved.
> Up to your individual tolerance, of course.
> 
> The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
> I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.
> 
>   Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on
> the roof and gets stuck.
> 
> 


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[sol]

At 10:36 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote:
I don't know sol, I'm such a clutz at things like that!  I would 
worry that I wasn't making it right and didn't I see a post 
(Brooks?) that said you can't make it correctly in an ordinary 
blender?  Not that I'm saying that you are *not* making it properly, 
but just that this is what I read.  Also, isn't it a bit 
complicated?  I seem to remember some having problems with making it 
when Brooks first posted, and if this is so, then this would 
definitely be me!  dee


I don't recall what Brooks said about using a blender, but what I am 
making stays incorporated, and does not give me the serious runs at 
even 6000 mg, and I figure even if it is not all liposomal, the C has 
to be IN THERE, so should be producing  more benefit than my previous 
max dose of 250 mg.

sol

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[cking001]

Dee,
As a personal experiment,
dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water...
Taste it.
Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade?

Put it in a blender...
add a tablespoon of lecithin granules...
Blend for at least a full minute...
Taste it.

Much milder?

If so,
add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more...
Taste it...
Still mild?

Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be
palatable.
Bowel tolerance is also improved.
Up to your individual tolerance, of course.

The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level.
I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough.

Chuck
Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on
the roof and gets stuck.


On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the
> postage is $28!  I asked them why they
> don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but they say that is the only 
> one they will use.  A real shame.  I buy from iHerb lots of things and they 
> use DHL which is $12 and an International company which is only $4!  DHL only 
> take three days to get it here to the UK as well. Brilliant!  Trouble is, 
> they don't
> stock the liposomal stuff!  dee
> 
> On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote:
> 
> > I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have
> the HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims
> the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims
> only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff
> is a no-brainer.
> >
> > Alan
> >


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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the postage is 
$28!  I asked them why they don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but 
they say that is the only one they will use.  A real shame.  I buy from iHerb 
lots of things and they use DHL which is $12 and an International company which 
is only $4!  DHL only take three days to get it here to the UK as well. 
Brilliant!  Trouble is, they don't stock the liposomal stuff!  dee

On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote:

> I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have the HF 
> US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims the 
> homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims only 
> 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff is a 
> no-brainer.
> 
> Alan
> 


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RE: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Lisa]

Can someone repost these instructions?

 

I've misplaced mine and have been wondering how to get better vit C.

 

Thx.


Lisa

 

  _  

From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

 

Dee,
  Don't forget you can make your own Liposomal vit C very cheaply, per
Brook's instructions posted to this list.
I've been successfully (as far as I can tell) making it with first my stick
blender then in my Vitamix, and it is the first vit C I have been able to
take in any dose over 250 mg. I plan to make the next batch in my regular
blender and see if that works as well for the mixing.
sol

At 06:26 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote:



I got on to these Alan because it looked so good, but unfortunately the
postage is prohibitive from here.  I'm really fed up that we get so ripped
off here in the UK.  dee

On 28 Jan 2010, at 14:48, Alan Jones wrote:






http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Annie B Smythe]

The thing is that you can use your cleaner to 
encapsulate othrt stuff that hasn't been 
manufactured yet. Say ohhh, maybe glutathione, or 
B vits, or minerals. As expensive as ionic and 
nano minerals are, that would be a big savings.


I'd like to try it with several different things 
and see how it goes. And for some things a 50-75% 
increase in absorbability is huge, and means you 
can take less. Like magnesium for instance, some 
magnesium types are only 10% absorbed in the GI 
tract. And glutathione is well known to be very 
poorly absorbed via the GI tract more so than even 
magnesium, a 50- 75% increase in absorbability 
would be tremendous.


So buying the cleaner makes a lot of sense to me. 
And the day I pay 20.00 for 90 caps of vitamin C 
is the day I quit buying supplements altogether. I 
really can't afford to spend that kind of money 
for one item.


Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Alan Jones wrote:
I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have 
the HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims 
the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims 
only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made 
stuff is a no-brainer.


Alan



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Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I don't know sol, I'm such a clutz at things like that!  I would worry that I 
wasn't making it right and didn't I see a post (Brooks?) that said you can't 
make it correctly in an ordinary blender?  Not that I'm saying that you are 
*not* making it properly, but just that this is what I read.  Also, isn't it a 
bit complicated?  I seem to remember some having problems with making it when 
Brooks first posted, and if this is so, then this would definitely be me!  
dee

On 18 Feb 2010, at 16:23, sol wrote:

> Dee,
>   Don't forget you can make your own Liposomal vit C very cheaply, per 
> Brook's instructions posted to this list.
> I've been successfully (as far as I can tell) making it with first my stick 
> blender then in my Vitamix, and it is the first vit C I have been able to 
> take in any dose over 250 mg. I plan to make the next batch in my regular 
> blender and see if that works as well for the mixing.
> sol
> 

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Alan Jones]

I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have the
HF US cleaner.  This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims the
homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram.  BUT I believe he claims only
50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff is a
no-brainer.

Alan

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM, sol  wrote:

>  Dee,
>   Don't forget you can make your own Liposomal vit C very cheaply, per
> Brook's instructions posted to this list.
> I've been successfully (as far as I can tell) making it with first my stick
> blender then in my Vitamix, and it is the first vit C I have been able to
> take in any dose over 250 mg. I plan to make the next batch in my regular
> blender and see if that works as well for the mixing.
> sol
>
>
> At 06:26 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> I got on to these Alan because it looked so good, but unfortunately the
> postage is prohibitive from here.  I'm really fed up that we get so ripped
> off here in the UK.  dee
>
> On 28 Jan 2010, at 14:48, Alan Jones wrote:
>
>
>
>  http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm
>
>


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Alan Jones

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[sol]

Dee,
  Don't forget you can make your own Liposomal vit C very cheaply, 
per Brook's instructions posted to this list.
I've been successfully (as far as I can tell) making it with first my 
stick blender then in my Vitamix, and it is the first vit C I have 
been able to take in any dose over 250 mg. I plan to make the next 
batch in my regular blender and see if that works as well for the mixing.

sol

At 06:26 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote:
I got on to these Alan because it looked so good, but unfortunately 
the postage is prohibitive from here.  I'm really fed up that we get 
so ripped off here in the UK.  dee


On 28 Jan 2010, at 14:48, Alan Jones wrote:




http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I got on to these Alan because it looked so good, but unfortunately the postage 
is prohibitive from here.  I'm really fed up that we get so ripped off here in 
the UK.  dee

On 28 Jan 2010, at 14:48, Alan Jones wrote:

> Bill Henderson's Cancer Free newsletter mentions this new, inexpensive source 
> of Liposomal vitamin C.  It's softgels and works out to about 30 cents per 
> gram, verses $1.33 per gram from Livon Labs, and about 15 cents for the 
> homemade stuff.  I haven't tried it but am tempted...
> 
> http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm
> 
> -- 
> Alan Jones

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This is brilliant Alan, thanks a lot.  dee

On 28 Jan 2010, at 14:48, Alan Jones wrote:

> Bill Henderson's Cancer Free newsletter mentions this new, inexpensive source 
> of Liposomal vitamin C.  It's softgels and works out to about 30 cents per 
> gram, verses $1.33 per gram from Livon Labs, and about 15 cents for the 
> homemade stuff.  I haven't tried it but am tempted...
> 
> http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm
> 
> -- 
> Alan Jones

Re: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Sandee George]

Thanks for this one Alan - I will order and see how it works for me -
Regards
Sandee


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RE: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Scott Adams]

Thanks! I am sharing this with others, I think I will give it a try.


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From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C


Bill Henderson's Cancer Free newsletter mentions this new, inexpensive
source of Liposomal vitamin C.  It's softgels and works out to about 30
cents per gram, verses $1.33 per gram from Livon Labs, and about 15 cents
for the homemade stuff.  I haven't tried it but am tempted...

http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm

-- 
Alan Jones

CS>new source of Liposomal vitamin C

[Alan Jones]

Bill Henderson's Cancer Free newsletter mentions this new, inexpensive
source of Liposomal vitamin C.  It's softgels and works out to about 30
cents per gram, verses $1.33 per gram from Livon Labs, and about 15 cents
for the homemade stuff.  I haven't tried it but am tempted...

http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm

-- 
Alan Jones