for Mike and Pat, reply from my friend re serrapeptase, nattokinase, arteries, was Re: CSThank you...
Pat Lawrie wrote: How does one know if their arteries are clear or not? I took several bottles of serrapeptase and nattokinase, but I didn't see or feel anything different before or after. How would you know without getting expensive and invasive dye studies? Here is the reply I got from my friend: hope there is some info you can use: sol I take what is considered fairly high dose nattokinase which is 200mg 3X/day. It is extremely important that these be taken on an empty stomach including serrapeptase. Many serrapeptases claim to be enteric coated so you don't have to worry about the empty stomach part. Serrapeptase supposedly has better anti-inflammatory properties than natto, while natto has better enzymatic activity. I did try about 3 months of serrapeptase and noticed within a week that I did not seem to have much anti-coagulant effect so even though it said could take with meals, went back to empty stomach and it did seem to work. However, I get much better results with natto. There is a 3rd enzyme which is supposed to be better than natto or serra and from my reading, it probably is the best...lumbrokinase which is extremely expensive. Now, as to how to know it's working, there are lab tests that can tell you in a round about way. A carotid ultrasound can also give a pretty good idea especially if you have a previous one to compare it to. For example, when I had the lyme flare in 2009, they wanted to make sure I hadn't had a stroke causing some of the eye symptoms. My carotids were 40% blocked (actually normal in an adult my age) BUT they made a specific note that the plaque was extremely smooth and posed no danger of causing a blood clot. The neurologist even told me he'd never seen plaque that smooth. I told him about natto, lol. That was almost 2 years ago...I'd love to see what the carotids look like now. I had been on natto a little over a year at that point and studies show that reversal of coronary artery disease takes 18 months to 2 years. Lab tests: Fibrin: the level of fibrin should decrease. This is the simplest test to get and I have a hard time getting that ordered. They wouldn't even run it prior to my big surgery last year and instead ran the normal clotting tests which don't really show what the kinases are doing. The other tests which can be ordered are...well, maybe if you have a friend who is a researcher or a doctor who gives a flip: EFA (euglobulin fibrinolytic activity) and FDP (fibrin degradation products), which both become elevated as fibrin is being dissolved. By measuring EFA FDP levels, activity of NK has been determined to last from 8 to 12 hours. An additional parameter for confirming the action of NK following oral administration is a rise in blood levels of TPA antigen (tissue plasminogen activator), which indicates a release of TPA from the endothelial cells and/or the liver.^6,7 This whole article gives a very good overview of how natto (and the other work) http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/health_nattokinase.html When I had the cardiac cath done in August, the cardiologist said he'd never seen anyone's arteries as clean as mine were. There was zero plaque. He said he hadn't expected to find anything significant but he was surprised at just how perfect everything was. Hope this helps a little :) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you... Fish Oils- good or bad
After reading what Ray Peat has to say about fish oils I felt it disagreed with what I have assessed as the effects of fish oil on my health so I googled some other research and found a lot of contradictions between them and what he alleged. I can't say I agree with him. But it does seem perhaps seaweed could give one the DHA without some of the drawbacks of fish oil as regards rancidity and processing, and no EPA which seemed to have a few bad results in some of the research I looked at on google. Research articles I saw on google said fish oils were protective against macular degeneration, Alzheimer's, colon and some breast cancer, etc, which contradicts what Ray Peat claims. Nancy sol wrote: Lisa wrote: What’s used to strengthen the arteries? From what I'm eading just lately, getting ALL the PUFAs (poly-unsaturated fatty acids) out of your diet, including the so-called beneficial fish oils because if not rancid when ingested, they turn rancid almost immediately upon ingestion. Here is one reference, though I've read others. http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you... Fish Oils- good or bad
Suggested reading Dr. Barry Sears...on benefit of High Dosage of Omega 3 fish oilI am going to Krill oil for purity In a message dated 5/14/2011 8:16:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, winie...@pacifier.com writes: After reading what Ray Peat has to say about fish oils I felt it disagreed with what I have assessed as the effects of fish oil on my health so I googled some other research and found a lot of contradictions between them and what he alleged. I can't say I agree with him. But it does seem perhaps seaweed could give one the DHA without some of the drawbacks of fish oil as regards rancidity and processing, and no EPA which seemed to have a few bad results in some of the research I looked at on google. Research articles I saw on google said fish oils were protective against macular degeneration, Alzheimer's, colon and some breast cancer, etc, which contradicts what Ray Peat claims. Nancy sol wrote: Lisa wrote: What’s used to strengthen the arteries? From what I'm eading just lately, getting ALL the PUFAs (poly-unsaturated fatty acids) out of your diet, including the so-called beneficial fish oils because if not rancid when ingested, they turn rancid almost immediately upon ingestion. Here is one reference, though I've read others. http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mike, Congratulations on the good news. Dr. Dean Ornish has been known for many years to have reversed heart disease. http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387 So far as I can tell, these claims are scientifically validated. That may be a good place to start studying. On 2011/05/12, at 8:54, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and maintains good circulation. How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals determination? Dr. Christopher has some info on cayenne for high blood pressure = http://www.zhealthinfo.com/doctor.htm Also, Serrapeptase is good for scrubbing veins arteries. Google for a supplier. Smitty
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This is wonderful news, Mike. May he continue to improve and astound his doctors! On another list I belong to there was a discussion of about using lecithin to clean out arteries with the caveat that for someone with heart disease they *must* first strengthen their blood vessel walls. The theory is that the cholesterol occlusions are patches the body lays down to strengthen a blood vessel that is weak. If the patch is removed the concern is the blood vessel could rupture. I hope you are enjoying this time with your brother. PT - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:49 AM Subject: CSThank you... Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I am so very pleased for you and your brother Marshall. kind regards, dee On 12 May 2011, at 00:54, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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What's used to strengthen the arteries? _ From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThank you... Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and maintains good circulation. How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals determination? Dr. Christopher has some info on cayenne for high blood pressure = http://www.zhealthinfo.com/doctor.htm Also, Serrapeptase is good for scrubbing veins arteries. Google for a supplier. Smitty
RE: CSThank you...
I think a very strong tincture can be made too (as opposed to using the
powder).
Lisa
_
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSThank you...
Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and
maintains good circulation.
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals
determination?
Information I've read over time suggests a tablespoon per 8 ounces of water
for immediate use, or a teaspoon for every day consumption {don't know in
how much water tho}. Has to be drank in one sitting, and as quick as
comfortable for it to be paletable.
I don't have a need to drink it - yet - but if I did have, or may develop a
circulatory problem sometime in the future, this is what I intend doing.
I'm not into alternatives, herbs, home remedies or supplements and whatever
else, {outside of silver}, but this one I believe may work, just don't ask
me why g.
I have my own belief that EIS may do similar, because the particles are not
spherical but more irregularly shaped. This could be argued I spose, and
most likely will be, but it's my belief. I'll let you know in another 10
years or so, that should be time enough for my body to be well on the way to
self destruction, considering I've been a smoker for over forty five years.
Could be useless info, but thought I'd throw it in the ring anyway Mike.
N.
From: mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:49:29 -0500
Subject: CSThank you...
Hi everyone,
Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et.
al.
He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a
stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with
the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to
the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one
or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to
recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries,
and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the
initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure
he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect
him to take over much of this relatively soon.
He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his
incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort,
thankfully.
Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a
recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for
several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly
didn't fix it all.
Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things
could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were
with us.
Peace,
Mike D.
Re: CSThank you...
~ :-) ~~ From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 6:49:29 PM Subject: CSThank you... Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I believe they talked about high dose vitamin C as in liposomal Vit C or sip C. It is important when doing the high C to also take enough minerals as vit C is a mineral chelator and can deplete the body. PT - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:16 AM Subject: RE: CSThank you... What's used to strengthen the arteries? -- From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThank you... Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and maintains good circulation. How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals determination? Dr. Christopher has some info on cayenne for high blood pressure = http://www.zhealthinfo.com/doctor.htm Also, Serrapeptase is good for scrubbing veins arteries. Google for a supplier. Smitty
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That would be Mike, Dee -- not Marshall. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 7:05:44 AM Subject: Re: CSThank you... I am so very pleased for you and your brother Marshall. kind regards, dee On 12 May 2011, at 00:54, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThank you...
I use it as a spray in my garden nothing will eat your veges with this spray on
-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:18:38 am
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: CSThank you...
I think a very strong tincture can be made too (as opposed to using the
powder).
Lisa
_
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSThank you...
Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and
maintains good circulation.
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals
determination?
Information I've read over time suggests a tablespoon per 8 ounces of water
for immediate use, or a teaspoon for every day consumption {don't know in
how much water tho}. Has to be drank in one sitting, and as quick as
comfortable for it to be paletable.
I don't have a need to drink it - yet - but if I did have, or may develop a
circulatory problem sometime in the future, this is what I intend doing.
I'm not into alternatives, herbs, home remedies or supplements and whatever
else, {outside of silver}, but this one I believe may work, just don
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So sorry--senior moments again I'm afraid! I meant Mike of course. regards dee On 12 May 2011, at 14:34, MaryAnn Helland wrote: That would be Mike, Dee -- not Marshall. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 7:05:44 AM Subject: Re: CSThank you... I am so very pleased for you and your brother Marshall. kind regards, dee On 12 May 2011, at 00:54, M. G. Devour wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Lisa wrote: What’s used to strengthen the arteries? From what I'm eading just lately, getting ALL the PUFAs (poly-unsaturated fatty acids) out of your diet, including the so-called beneficial fish oils because if not rancid when ingested, they turn rancid almost immediately upon ingestion. Here is one reference, though I've read others. http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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M. G. Devour wrote: Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Mike, I have a good friend with completely clear arteries, who says it is due to serrapeptase and nattokinase she takes. Also she eats very few PUFAs and does eat good fats, coconut oil and butter. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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How does one know if their arteries are clear or not? I took several bottles of serrapeptase and nattokinase, but I didn't see or feel anything different before or after. How would you know without getting expensive and invasive dye studies? Pat From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 3:34:57 PM Subject: Re: CSThank you... M. G. Devour wrote: Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Mike, I have a good friend with completely clear arteries, who says it is due to serrapeptase and nattokinase she takes. Also she eats very few PUFAs and does eat good fats, coconut oil and butter. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Pat, I don't know if there is any other way. My friend did have invasive dye tests, at the VA. She has lung problems and her docs were convinced she had clogged arteries, but turned out they were squeaky clean. I don't know if she felt anything different before taking the nattokinase, etc vs after taking them for some time, but I will ask... sol Pat Lawrie wrote: How does one know if their arteries are clear or not? I took several bottles of serrapeptase and nattokinase, but I didn't see or feel anything different before or after. How would you know without getting expensive and invasive dye studies? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Very glad that your brother is doing fine. I will continue to send Light and prayers for his continued healing. Helena - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:49 PM Subject: CSThank you... Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank you...
Hi everyone, Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et. al. He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries, and to otherwise recover his strength and heal. He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect him to take over much of this relatively soon. He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort, thankfully. Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were with us. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Popular belief is cayenne pepper supposedly keeps arteries clear and maintains
good circulation.
How much, in how much water, is open to researching for individuals
determination?
Information I've read over time suggests a tablespoon per 8 ounces of water for
immediate use, or a teaspoon for every day consumption {don't know in how much
water tho}. Has to be drank in one sitting, and as quick as comfortable for it
to be paletable.
I don't have a need to drink it - yet - but if I did have, or may develop a
circulatory problem sometime in the future, this is what I intend doing.
I'm not into alternatives, herbs, home remedies or supplements and whatever
else, {outside of silver}, but this one I believe may work, just don't ask me
why g.
I have my own belief that EIS may do similar, because the particles are not
spherical but more irregularly shaped. This could be argued I spose, and most
likely will be, but it's my belief. I'll let you know in another 10 years or
so, that should be time enough for my body to be well on the way to self
destruction, considering I've been a smoker for over forty five years.
Could be useless info, but thought I'd throw it in the ring anyway Mike.
N.
From: mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:49:29 -0500
Subject: CSThank you...
Hi everyone,
Thank you to all for your prayers and good wishes for my brother, et.
al.
He came through the procedure well. The doctor was able to place a
stent in the biggest of the three occluded grafts, which, combined with
the other successful graft, has restored more than 50% circulation to
the heart. He will go back for additional stents to be inserted in one
or both the remaining grafts after he's had a month for his kidneys to
recover from the iodine (dye) they inject to visualize the arteries,
and to otherwise recover his strength and heal.
He's home now and bouncing back much more quickly than he did from the
initial bypass surgery. I've been preparing his meals and making sure
he gets his various meds, though at the rate he's improving I expect
him to take over much of this relatively soon.
He saw his surgeon today and got good marks for the healing of his
incisions. They are giving him much less pain and discomfort,
thankfully.
Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a
recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for
several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly
didn't fix it all.
Again, thank you everyone. That procedure had to go well or things
could have gone downhill rapidly. It was comforting to know you were
with us.
Peace,
Mike D.
CSThank you all, Especially Mike
I have not been subscribing for a couple of years. After returning, more than ever, I very much appreciate this list as one of the superstars of medical information, mainstream, traditional/historical and so-called alternative. The silver list is a priceless jewel. The medical and technical professionals who take the time share their training, knowledge and expertise are saintly people. Thanks again, Jim
RE: CSThank you all, Especially Mike
I whole heartedly agree. And at the risk of offending some outstanding contributors, I would also like to extend special appreciation to Marshall, Ode and Brooks for their contributions to the list, in addition to Mike. - Steve N From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:12 PM To: Silver-List Subject: CSThank you all, Especially Mike I have not been subscribing for a couple of years. After returning, more than ever, I very much appreciate this list as one of the superstars of medical information, mainstream, traditional/historical and so-called alternative. The silver list is a priceless jewel. The medical and technical professionals who take the time share their training, knowledge and expertise are saintly people. Thanks again, Jim
RE: CSThank you all, Especially Mike
Buncha Suckups... What's going on??? Chuck My wife keeps complaining I never listen to her ... or something like that. On 1/26/2010 7:20:04 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote: I whole heartedly agree. And at the risk of offending some outstanding contributors, I would also like to extend special appreciation to Marshall, Ode and Brooks for their contributions to the list, in addition to Mike. - Steve N From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:12 PM To: Silver-List Subject: CSThank you all, Especially Mike I have not been subscribing for a couple of years. After returning, more than ever, I very much appreciate this list as one of the superstars of medical information, mainstream, traditional/historical and so-called alternative. The silver list is a priceless jewel. The medical and technical professionals who take the time share their training, knowledge and expertise are saintly people. Thanks again, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you all, Especially Mike
Oh.and Chuck too. Is it better now? g - Steve N - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue Jan 26 18:48:34 2010 Subject: RE: CSThank you all, Especially Mike Buncha Suckups... What's going on??? Chuck My wife keeps complaining I never listen to her ... or something like that. On 1/26/2010 7:20:04 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote: I whole heartedly agree. And at the risk of offending some outstanding contributors, I would also like to extend special appreciation to Marshall, Ode and Brooks for their contributions to the list, in addition to Mike. - Steve N From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:12 PM To: Silver-List Subject: CSThank you all, Especially Mike I have not been subscribing for a couple of years. After returning, more than ever, I very much appreciate this list as one of the superstars of medical information, mainstream, traditional/historical and so-called alternative. The silver list is a priceless jewel. The medical and technical professionals who take the time share their training, knowledge and expertise are saintly people. Thanks again, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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whew, thanks, Chuck, I thought something was wrong here... kathryn On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:48 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Buncha Suckups... What's going on??? Chuck My wife keeps complaining I never listen to her ... or something like that. On 1/26/2010 7:20:04 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote: I whole heartedly agree. And at the risk of offending some outstanding contributors, I would also like to extend special appreciation to Marshall, Ode and Brooks for their contributions to the list, in addition to Mike. - Steve N From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:12 PM To: Silver-List Subject: CSThank you all, Especially Mike I have not been subscribing for a couple of years. After returning, more than ever, I very much appreciate this list as one of the superstars of medical information, mainstream, traditional/historical and so-called alternative. The silver list is a priceless jewel. The medical and technical professionals who take the time share their training, knowledge and expertise are saintly people. Thanks again, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I agree, no matter what other groups I read on, I come back to this list again and again for reliable information. I don't know what I'd do without the Silver list and members. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Jim Holmes wrote: I have not been subscribing for a couple of years. After returning, more than ever, I very much appreciate this list as one of the superstars of medical information, mainstream, traditional/historical and so-called alternative. The silver list is a priceless jewel. The medical and technical professionals who take the time share their training, knowledge and expertise are saintly people. Thanks again, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank You To Marshall!
Hi Marshall, One of the many reasons I enjoy being on this list is that we can debate things respectfully and factually, and you, Marshall, seem to have the capacity to do this so well, setting an example for others. Being able to see the BIG picture is evidently a quality you possess and have refined. Thanks so much for the facts you provide to this group and the way in which you provide them! For all the times in the past I have not thanked you for your contributions and for all the times I will not thank you in the future either, in my attempts to avoid short posts of expressions of appreciation, please remember that I am, indeed, very thankful for your analytical mind and for all you add to this Silver List. sincerely, Peter - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:30 AM Subject: CSAluminum in your diet http://www.hints-n-tips.com/aluminum.htm The following additives contain aluminium compounds: E173, E520, E521, E523 E541, E545, E554, E555 E556, E559. Antacids quite often contain aluminum trisilicate as does buffered aspirin. Foods containing aluminium based additives include dry cake mixes, pastries and croissants made from frozen dough, processed cheeses, some donuts and waffles, check muffins for E541 (sodium aluminum phosphate), and food coloring. The list of substances containing aluminium salts is quite depressing, it even includes *toothpaste*!, especially tooth whitening products. The use of aluminum in drinking water is starting to be looked at in Canada and Australia, most utilities in Europe and the United States do exceed the recommended level of 100 microgrammes per litre, some by as much as *sixty times!* Another obvious and easily avoided source is aluminum cooking pots and pans, this can be quite easily remedied by using enamelled, stainless steel and cast iron pots. Cooking in earthenware and glass containers is another option. There is no need to throw out all of your aluminium pots, it is OK to fry food in aluminium pans and intact Teflon, non-stick coatings will effectively prevent any contamination. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts22.html * Virtually all food, water, air, and soil contain some aluminum. * The average adult in the U.S. eats about 7-9 mg aluminum per day in their food. * Breathing higher levels of aluminum dust in workplace air. * Living in areas where the air is dusty, where aluminum is mined or processed into aluminum metal, near certain hazardous waste sites, or where aluminum is naturally high. * Eating substances containing high levels of aluminum (such as antacids) especially when eating or drinking citrus products at the same time. * Children and adults may be exposed to small amounts of aluminum from vaccinations. * Very little enters your body from aluminum cooking utensils. http://www.holisticvetpetcare.com/pdf/Heavy_Metal_Posion_Hair_Analysis-4.pdf This site has some good information on it and lists foods that contain significant aluminum. Rice, wheat, beef, chicken, pork, radishes and potatoes all contain significant amounts of aluminum, and carrot leaf contains large amounts. Unfortunately I am unable to copy from the page. Apparently if you want an aluminum free diet about all you can consume is distilled water, and pure chemicals such as salt, cream of tarter, citric acid and sodium bicarbonate. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank You To Marshall!
Yeah -- what Peter said!! :-D MA From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 12:39:27 PM Subject: CSThank You To Marshall! Hi Marshall, One of the many reasons I enjoy being on this list is that we can debate things respectfully and factually, and you, Marshall, seem to have the capacity to do this so well, setting an example for others. Being able to see the BIG picture is evidently a quality you possess and have refined. Thanks so much for the facts you provide to this group and the way in which you provide them! For all the times in the past I have not thanked you for your contributions and for all the times I will not thank you in the future either, in my attempts to avoid short posts of expressions of appreciation, please remember that I am, indeed, very thankful for your analytical mind and for all you add to this Silver List. sincerely, Peter - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:30 AM Subject: CSAluminum in your diet http://www.hints-n-tips.com/aluminum.htm The following additives contain aluminium compounds: E173, E520, E521, E523 E541, E545, E554, E555 E556, E559. Antacids quite often contain aluminum trisilicate as does buffered aspirin. Foods containing aluminium based additives include dry cake mixes, pastries and croissants made from frozen dough, processed cheeses, some donuts and waffles, check muffins for E541 (sodium aluminum phosphate), and food coloring. The list of substances containing aluminium salts is quite depressing, it even includes *toothpaste*!, especially tooth whitening products. The use of aluminum in drinking water is starting to be looked at in Canada and Australia, most utilities in Europe and the United States do exceed the recommended level of 100 microgrammes per litre, some by as much as *sixty times!* Another obvious and easily avoided source is aluminum cooking pots and pans, this can be quite easily remedied by using enamelled, stainless steel and cast iron pots. Cooking in earthenware and glass containers is another option. There is no need to throw out all of your aluminium pots, it is OK to fry food in aluminium pans and intact Teflon, non-stick coatings will effectively prevent any contamination. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts22.html * Virtually all food, water, air, and soil contain some aluminum. * The average adult in the U.S. eats about 7-9 mg aluminum per day in their food. * Breathing higher levels of aluminum dust in workplace air. * Living in areas where the air is dusty, where aluminum is mined or processed into aluminum metal, near certain hazardous waste sites, or where aluminum is naturally high. * Eating substances containing high levels of aluminum (such as antacids) especially when eating or drinking citrus products at the same time. * Children and adults may be exposed to small amounts of aluminum from vaccinations. * Very little enters your body from aluminum cooking utensils. http://www.holisticvetpetcare.com/pdf/Heavy_Metal_Posion_Hair_Analysis-4.pdf This site has some good information on it and lists foods that contain significant aluminum. Rice, wheat, beef, chicken, pork, radishes and potatoes all contain significant amounts of aluminum, and carrot leaf contains large amounts. Unfortunately I am unable to copy from the page. Apparently if you want an aluminum free diet about all you can consume is distilled water, and pure chemicals such as salt, cream of tarter, citric acid and sodium bicarbonate. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I truly appreciate your kind words, MA. I love this site and have learned so much invaluable information. I realized it would be silly to unsubscribe in a fit of pique...I'd only be hurting myself. Warm regards, Sandy --- On Tue, 12/15/09, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSPlease unsubscribe me To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:50 PM I'm glad Sandy. I always enjoy your posts, and think you have much to offer here. :-) From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:11:11 PM Subject: Re: CSPlease unsubscribe me Hi MA, Ive had a change of heart with the help of our very patient and kind list owner. :) Best regards, Sandy --- On Mon, 12/14/09, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSPlease unsubscribe me To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:54 AM Oh, that's a shame. MA From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com; SO silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 8:23:54 AM Subject: CSPlease unsubscribe me __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CSthank you to all for info for lady with stroke
I hereby thank you all from the bottom of my heart for the great information passed on for helping my friend's partner in her recovery . Some of you I have written personally. Absolutely awesome. The information received has been forwarded to them and they are having a family discussion this afternoon to really look into the many options they were unaware of. On behalf of Jenny, the lady concerned, a deeply felt thankyou to you all. Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090912-0, 12/09/2009 Tested on: 13/09/2009 11:15:26 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Well, yes you can. It grows on trees (bushes actually). See rosehips. Dan On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Shirley Reedpj20fl...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very, very much for that, Brooks!!! Now, if you can only come up with a way to MAKE the Vitamin C itself hahahahah Thanks again Mr. B. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank you to Brooks
Thank you very, very much for that, Brooks!!! Now, if you can only come up with a way to MAKE the Vitamin C itselfhahahahah Thanks again Mr. B. pj
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I read a recipe for vitamin C that said to take the white of the peels of oranges and dry them. Then pulverize them into powder. Not sure if that would be very strong vit c or not. Anybody heard of this? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very, very much for that, Brooks!!! Now, if you can only come up with a way to MAKE the Vitamin C itselfhahahahah Thanks again Mr. B. pj -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
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I understood you took the whole peel and dried it, then powdered it. I did this and it smells wonderful. :-) But I haven't take it yet to see if I can tell if there's any C there or not. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I read a recipe for vitamin C that said to take the white of the peels of oranges and dry them. Then pulverize them into powder. Not sure if that would be very strong vit c or not. Anybody heard of this?
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Vit C never worked for me for UTI. Nothing compares with D-Mannose, and when you have one it's not a good time to experiment. In a message dated 8/12/2009 7:28:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gaiac...@gmail.com writes: I understood you took the whole peel and dried it, then powdered it. I did this and it smells wonderful. :-) But I haven't take it yet to see if I can tell if there's any C there or not. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I read a recipe for vitamin C that said to take the white of the peels of oranges and dry them. Then pulverize them into powder. Not sure if that would be very strong vit c or not. Anybody heard of this?
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At 12:18 AM 8/30/2008 +0930, you wrote: A warm Thank You to those who gave words of encouragement by way of welcome. In answer to the question relating to my residing in England...No, I'm afraid not, I am a few thousand kilometers south-east...Australia, Thanks for asking though as I forgot to mention that. It was not my intention to participate as early as this but I can't resist supporting the points 'wayne fugitt' made. I make my own generators and they are not 'current limited' as it does just that to me...limits me, (I am considering making one sometime in the future though as I am little curious as to how they would perform as a comparison). It has been said to me that producing EICS is not a 'science' but more of an 'art' and that's certainly been my experience. I can't think of anything else that can be affected by so many 'variables' as this ICS 'stuff'. The only two things I consider of value are a meter and a magnetic stirrer, (I had to make my own stirrer though as 'shop bought' stirrers spin too fast). Cheers...Neville. ## ..not to mention being also extremely expensive for no reason at all. Fast is easy. It's actually more difficult to make one that goes slow enough, as I suppose you know by now. Ode No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 6:12 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Re: CSThank You. At 12:18 AM 8/30/2008 +0930, you wrote: (I had to make my own stirrer though as 'shop bought' stirrers spin too fast). [## ..not to mention being also extremely expensive for no reason at all. Fast is easy. It's actually more difficult to make one that goes slow enough, as I suppose you know by now. Ode] Yep, and I am definitely still looking into that 'speed' thing. Not holding an electronics degree all I can do is play around and experiment. I don't have the equipment to tell me the rpm of the ones I have made either, I do know that I want them to go a LOT SLOWER than what I have. I have slowed them down considerably just by using lower voltage, (electric motors are very reluctant to run slower than rated as you probably are aware), but I certainly would not be without it now. I believe it makes a hell of a difference in the production process, (and I reckon it can be improved considerably yet). ICS can be a very complex subject but I want it to be as simple as possible to achieve good quality CS in the home, and repeatable. I have tried the 'heat' business but not happy with that concept at all, I discarded that as quick as I introduced it. I still need to make a stirrer that will only have a couple of rpm, (as a quick example if you get my drift). Going to pick the brains of a young nephew very shortly who is an electrical engineer so am hoping it will be a productive and fruitful discussion. Neville. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 6:12 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank You.
A warm Thank You to those who gave words of encouragement by way of welcome. In answer to the question relating to my residing in England...No, I'm afraid not, I am a few thousand kilometers south-east...Australia, Thanks for asking though as I forgot to mention that. It was not my intention to participate as early as this but I can't resist supporting the points 'wayne fugitt' made. I make my own generators and they are not 'current limited' as it does just that to me...limits me, (I am considering making one sometime in the future though as I am little curious as to how they would perform as a comparison). It has been said to me that producing EICS is not a 'science' but more of an 'art' and that's certainly been my experience. I can't think of anything else that can be affected by so many 'variables' as this ICS 'stuff'. The only two things I consider of value are a meter and a magnetic stirrer, (I had to make my own stirrer though as 'shop bought' stirrers spin too fast). Cheers...Neville.
CSThank You !
I would like to thank everyone who responded to my questions about our Boxer's fatty tumor. I am taking many of your suggestions and implementing them at this time and have ordered supplements to help alleviate the problem. Thank you so much, Judy **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
CSThank You All!
Thank you folks on the Silver List. It is very comforting that there are very caring people left in this world. May God also comfort you and yours as you do a work that no one else wants to do. God bless. In His Service, Scott Young - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: CSThank You All!
Scott, Don't forget to take some remedial measures for yourself as well. Remember if you live with a smoker, you smoke too. You may not have the severe effects your wife is having, but the second-hand smoke is affecting you as well, whether you are noticing those effects yet or not. sol Scott wrote: Thank you folks on the Silver List. It is very comforting that there are very caring people left in this world. May God also comfort you and yours as you do a work that no one else wants to do. God bless. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you Serendipity
SERENDIPITY might do - you set out to do one thing, and something else is created. In general, serendipity is the act of finding something valuable or delightful when you are not looking for it. In information technology, serendipity often plays a part in the recognition of a new product need or in solving a design problem. Web surfing can be an occasion for serendipity since you sometimes come across a valuable or interesting site when you are looking for something else. The term was coined by English writer Horace Walpole on January 28, 1754, in a letter written to Horace Mann. He credited it to a silly fairy tale he once read called 'The Three Princes of Serendip'. According to the fairy tale, three Persian princes sailed off to make their fortunes in the land of silk, an island called Serendip. (Today, the island is known as Sri Lanka.) Along the way, the princes made all types of wondrous and delightful discoveries about the island, and learned things they never expected. One such learning was purported to be the discovery that a mule blind in its right eye had recently traveled the same road. This was discovered when they noticed that the grass had been eaten only on the left side of the road. The term is also sometimes used to mean the randomness of fate, as in whatever happens to cross my desk today. http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci214543,00.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you Good networking
http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/hanetwork1.htm This is frightfully like, as well: The Basics Of Good Networking In lots of professional circles networking has come to be regarded as a necessary skill that leads to new jobs and new customers. I prefer to regard it as an enjoyable social practice that enriches my life. Therein, I believe, lies the difference between bad networking and good networking. Have you ever had an old contact call you when he's job hunting? Suddenly an otherwise casual, friendly person turns into a preoccupied motor-mouth who makes you wish you'd let voicemail take the call. That's an example of bad networking. Networking is an unfortunate term because it implies connections but ignores the importance of true relationships. Networking isn't about the quantity of contacts you make; it's about the quality of relationships you enjoy. Let's take a look at what's wrong with the conventional notions of networking practices so we can come up with a simple approach to good networking. Don't speculate for a job. The way lots of people network for a job reminds me of day-trading in the stock market. The networker has no interest in the people or companies he's investing in. He just wants a quick profit. He skims the surface of an industry or profession, trying to find easy contacts that might pay off quickly. This is what networking meetings (or so-called business card exchanges) are usually all about. When you encounter an experienced networker, you'll find that he listens carefully to the useful information you give him, but once you're done helping, he's not interested in you any more. He might drop some tidbits your way, but don't expect him to remember you next week. Invest in relationships. Contrast this to someone who reads about your company and calls to discuss how you applied an old technology to produce new results. He's interested in your work and stays in touch with you, perhaps sending an article about a related topic after you've talked. This initial contact might prompt you to one day call your newfound friend for advice, or to visit his company's booth at the next trade show and introduce yourself. Maybe it never goes beyond that, or maybe one day you'll work together. The point is, after a time you become known entities to one another. You become members of one another's circle. You'll help one another because you're friends, not because it will pay off later. Belong. People trust other people they know. Why? Because getting to know you takes a long time. This approach to business reveals integrity and it reveals patience. People who have made that kind of investment in you are usually worthy of your trust. They're the kinds of people who can refer their buddies to you -- and you're glad to make the new acquaintance, because you are all part of the same circle. People in your circle are people you would hire or go to work for. If there's a catch to this, it's that you have to invest in getting to know them first. That's what makes a really good network of people so difficult to become a part of. It's also what makes it so desirable to belong to. In our case, people in our circle are the ones we would likely trust for advice, research topics, sources, methods; we might also pipe up if we think they are going astray; we see an article on a subject they mentioned three years ago and revive the topic; we quote them, we refer others to their website or their practice or their book. R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank you
Thank you Terry and everyone else for the information...I passed it on to the nurse. The medical community does have much to learn about the incredible value of CS. Thanks again, deb
Re: CSThank you everyone
Original message From: Deborah Gerard- Thanks for all the response to my post about my IBS I am thinking the combonation of things brought this on. But I have one question could this be an overgrowth of bad bacteria too in the intestines? Debbie- I'm not saying this is what is causing your IBS but I have had it and the causitive foods for me were wheat and cooked tomatoes (but I can eat raw ones). At the peak of my problems I was eating sphaghetti, lasagne, and pizza a lot. Ouch! Try an elimination diet and you might find the culprit. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you everyone IBS Bacteria Overgrowth
But I have one question could this be an overgrowth of bad bacteria too in the intestines? If it is can I take cs orally or thru enema to kill off the bad bacteriaanyone with experience with this? Deborah, as part of my regime I wanted to sort out this region. However, I decided not to go it alone, and went to a local iridologist/naturopath, who did a urine test for me. The result was blue. I've never had a blue result before, she exclaimed. The dysbiosis was obviously the worst she'd treated. Weed, feed and seed was the regime she used - first a herbal thing to kill off the nasties, then a whey product plus other things to heal the insides and then seeding good bugs with a powder that's kept in the fridge. Results of next urine test: normal. It has made a big difference. What I like is the thought that the holes in my gut that let stuff leak out into the surrounding tissues are healed, and the little critturs that probably were hanging on with their little hooky teeth are gone, and my poor old tum can do its job properly and let me have the benefit of the food I eat instead of the hangers on inside me. I'm glad I had someone with their arm around me on this one, and who could test it objectively. I make and take CS, but I'm not sure I would rely on it alone to do all the various jobs that need to be done. Just part of the overall regime. Rowena
Re: CSThank you everyone IBS Bacteria Overgrowth
Rowena wrote: But I have one question could this be an overgrowth of bad bacteria too in the intestines? If it is can I take cs orally or thru enema to kill off the bad bacteriaanyone with experience with this? Depends on the consistancy of the material in there. If it is not liquid then EIS is not very effective. Thus an enema would likely be the better choice. But it is not selective, you will need to replenish the good bacteria with probiotics when done. Marshall
CSThank you everyone
Thanks for all the response to my post about my IBS I appreciate all the advice greatly...I have had a colonoscopy about three years ago. I recently had knee surgery and went thru an awful lot of pain and was taking way too much over the counter pain relievers. and stopped taking my psyillium like I used to take faithfully too...I am thinking the combonation of things brought this on. But I have one question could this be an overgrowth of bad bacteria too in the intestines? If it is can I take cs orally or thru enema to kill off the bad bacteriaanyone with experience with this? Thanks again group for all your input, I will be off to the health food store tomorrow with the list in hand. Have a good one Debbie
CSThank you!
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RE: CSThank you
Hi Debbie, Yes, you can fill one ear with a mixture of CS 10 ppm + 4 drops H2O2 3%; allow to remain for awhile; then turn head over repeat in 2nd ear. I don't believe a small amount of H2O2 + CS would be uncomfortable in eyes or nose--upon completion of generating my CS, I remove the Silver wires, test with laser light and TDS meter, multiplying the reading by 2 to get ppm (per Ode's directions). and mist in ears, eyes, up nose and as underarm deodorant and find it soothing, effective and economical. Check my Site Blogspot for 3 pages of CS Uses and 1 page of my Favorites CS references. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThank you Thanks for your responses, I personally don't fear anything that the media put's out...since the Y2K joke I never listened again. I would not dream of getting any vaccine's either. Just very curious to know how strong the CS is and what it's limitations are. I think it would be better than any so called antidote that the government would come up with . I use the hydorgen peroxide in my ear canals as well, but not up my nose it BURNS big time where the CS does not...you can use the CS as well in the ear canals can't you? Thanks for the info everyone..knowledge is a wonderful thingDebbie
CSThank you
Thanks for your responses, I personally don't fear anything that the media put's out...since the Y2K joke I never listened again. I would not dream of getting any vaccine's either. Just very curious to know how strong the CS is and what it's limitations are. I think it would be better than any so called antidote that the government would come up with . I use the hydorgen peroxide in my ear canals as well, but not up my nose it BURNS big time where the CS does not...you can use the CS as well in the ear canals can't you? Thanks for the info everyone..knowledge is a wonderful thingDebbie
Re: CSThank you for replying Ken! But I was asking about 20 ppm not 80 ppm
It will be low. How low depends on the TE. Meters don't read suspended particles. Under 10 PPM might be right on to just a tiny bit low [very little TE] With light to medium TE mutiliply by 1.2 Heavy TE...maybe x 1.5 or so. Not very scientific...just to get an idea of PPM. ken At 09:52 AM 12/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: Ken, I used a ppm tester and got the reading of 20 ppm and was just wondering if that was high or low as far as the CS went. Just looking for input. Thanks, Lee Elder ---Original Message--- From: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:03:05 AM To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Fw: Question- is 20 ppm very good CS? WOULD SOMEBODY RESPOND TO THIS Thanks. > 80 PPM gets into a REALLY iffy range but I wouldn't say it can't be >done. I would question the reliability and repeatability of making that >concentration and having it remain stable. > >Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org>http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html>http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>mdev...@eskimo.com> .
Re: CSThank you for replying Ken! But I was asking about 20 ppm not 80 ppm
How much would a person have to consume to get the blood levels up to 3PPM or even .5 PPM over what period of time with a 94% elimination rate over 48 hours and varying assimilation rates and routes? It's not so simple as saying that any given PPM will be effective without even mentioning volume. Too many parameters missing. ken At 09:44 PM 12/17/2002 -0600, you wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:52:55 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time), leeelder leeel...@flash.net wrote: Ken, I used a ppm tester and got the reading of 20 ppm and was just wondering if that was high or low as far as the CS went. Just looking for input. Thanks, Lee Elder Official tests (conducted at Brigham Young University) shows that 5 ppm is effective against practically everything they tested against. 10 ppm was no better for most of the bacteria, and somewhat better (slightly shorter kill time) for 2 or 3. Several people have commented that 1/2 ppm to 3 ppm was quite effective for various uses. So IMO ... 20 ppm is probably okay, but may be overkill in the sense that you're wasting time (it takes longer to make), wasting silver and increasing your chances of having the silver clump into larger particles (which is far, far less effective). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank you for replying Ken! But I was asking about 20 ppm not 80 ppm
Ken, I used a ppm tester and got the reading of 20 ppm and was just wondering if that was high or low as far as the CS went. Just looking for input. Thanks, Lee Elder ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:03:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFw: Question- is 20 ppm very good CS? WOULD SOMEBODY RESPOND TO THIS Thanks. 80 PPM gets into a REALLY iffy range but I wouldn't say it can't be done. I would question the reliability and repeatability of making that concentration and having it remain stable. Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .
Re: CSThank you for replying Ken! But I was asking about 20 ppm not 80 ppm
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:52:55 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time), leeelder leeel...@flash.net wrote: Ken, I used a ppm tester and got the reading of 20 ppm and was just wondering if that was high or low as far as the CS went. Just looking for input. Thanks, Lee Elder Official tests (conducted at Brigham Young University) shows that 5 ppm is effective against practically everything they tested against. 10 ppm was no better for most of the bacteria, and somewhat better (slightly shorter kill time) for 2 or 3. Several people have commented that 1/2 ppm to 3 ppm was quite effective for various uses. So IMO ... 20 ppm is probably okay, but may be overkill in the sense that you're wasting time (it takes longer to make), wasting silver and increasing your chances of having the silver clump into larger particles (which is far, far less effective). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.
WA cool! Ken At 12:24 PM 9/25/02 -0400, you wrote: this is just a update, two years ago I wrote about my sister having lung cancer in both lungs and was told by the doctors she was in stage 4 and would not make it but a few weeks, they did not offer any treatment, she started on the cs water and after doing better for 6 weeks they offered her treatment, she is still here and just became a grandmother her daughter had a baby boy, thanks to James who I purchased my machine from and for the words of encouragement something of which the doctors had none, the second doctor told her she had already lived two years longer then she should have, she is still doing great , then last year I wrote and asked about brown rot that was all over our plums for the last 3 years and they where just getting worst every year, we mixed cs in the water tank and sprayed the trees and this year no brown rot not even one tree,,, so again thanks for the info and the help Lynda -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get back when feel up to reading them all.
Where are you in the UK Kevin? Terry - Original Message - From: Kevin Raggett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:28 AM Subject: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get back when feel up to reading them all. Hello All, I will read all your replies soon. I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability. Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ? Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery. All the best to you all and thanks. Kevin
Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get back when feel up to reading them all.
It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is. Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time. You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to ship the water. ken At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote: Hello All, I will read all your replies soon. I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability. Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ? Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery. All the best to you all and thanks. Kevin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.
Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same advice to others with Lyme. It can take lots, and if you run out for a few days, you are right back where you started. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is. Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time. You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to ship the water. ken At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote: Hello All, I will read all your replies soon. I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability. Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ? Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery. All the best to you all and thanks. Kevin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.
this is just a update, two years ago I wrote about my sister having lung cancer in both lungs and was told by the doctors she was in stage 4 and would not make it but a few weeks, they did not offer any treatment, she started on the cs water and after doing better for 6 weeks they offered her treatment, she is still here and just became a grandmother her daughter had a baby boy, thanks to James who I purchased my machine from and for the words of encouragement something of which the doctors had none, the second doctor told her she had already lived two years longer then she should have, she is still doing great , then last year I wrote and asked about brown rot that was all over our plums for the last 3 years and they where just getting worst every year, we mixed cs in the water tank and sprayed the trees and this year no brown rot not even one tree,,, so again thanks for the info and the help Lynda - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all. Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same advice to others with Lyme. It can take lots, and if you run out for a few days, you are right back where you started. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is. Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time. You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to ship the water. ken At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote: Hello All, I will read all your replies soon. I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability. Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ? Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery. All the best to you all and thanks. Kevin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.
Lynda, it is just these kinds of words that make my heart soar. I'm glad I was able to offer encouragement at a time that you needed it! You may want to let the others on the list know how much colloidal silver she was taking and how often she was taking it (if you have time to write another message that is), as that may help others in the same situation. Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: Lynda Khula ne...@clinic.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all. this is just a update, two years ago I wrote about my sister having lung cancer in both lungs and was told by the doctors she was in stage 4 and would not make it but a few weeks, they did not offer any treatment, she started on the cs water and after doing better for 6 weeks they offered her treatment, she is still here and just became a grandmother her daughter had a baby boy, thanks to James who I purchased my machine from and for the words of encouragement something of which the doctors had none, the second doctor told her she had already lived two years longer then she should have, she is still doing great , then last year I wrote and asked about brown rot that was all over our plums for the last 3 years and they where just getting worst every year, we mixed cs in the water tank and sprayed the trees and this year no brown rot not even one tree,,, so again thanks for the info and the help Lynda - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all. Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same advice to others with Lyme. It can take lots, and if you run out for a few days, you are right back where you started. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is. Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time. You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to ship the water. ken At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote: Hello All, I will read all your replies soon. I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability. Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ? Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery. All the best to you all and thanks. Kevin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.
she did what you told me to tell her to do, she started with 1/2 cup in the morning and 1/2 in the evening and I think she has cut that down to 1/4 cup a day, the last test she had done both lungs where clear in fact the doctor said that if he did not know better he would say she had never smoked, and she did for a lot of years, the tumor that was sitting on her heart which could have killed her at anytime is now like a piece of flesh they want to give her another body scan in Dec so far they can not find any cancer anywhere other then the one by her heart which they are keeping an eye on that is as much as I know right now she cut down to 1/4 cup after a year, hope this helps James, Lynda - Original Message - From: James Allison apothec...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:15 PM Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all. Lynda, it is just these kinds of words that make my heart soar. I'm glad I was able to offer encouragement at a time that you needed it! You may want to let the others on the list know how much colloidal silver she was taking and how often she was taking it (if you have time to write another message that is), as that may help others in the same situation. Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: Lynda Khula ne...@clinic.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all. this is just a update, two years ago I wrote about my sister having lung cancer in both lungs and was told by the doctors she was in stage 4 and would not make it but a few weeks, they did not offer any treatment, she started on the cs water and after doing better for 6 weeks they offered her treatment, she is still here and just became a grandmother her daughter had a baby boy, thanks to James who I purchased my machine from and for the words of encouragement something of which the doctors had none, the second doctor told her she had already lived two years longer then she should have, she is still doing great , then last year I wrote and asked about brown rot that was all over our plums for the last 3 years and they where just getting worst every year, we mixed cs in the water tank and sprayed the trees and this year no brown rot not even one tree,,, so again thanks for the info and the help Lynda - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all. Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same advice to others with Lyme. It can take lots, and if you run out for a few days, you are right back where you started. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is. Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time. You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to ship the water. ken At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote: Hello All, I will read all your replies soon. I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability. Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ? Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery. All the best to you all and thanks. Kevin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get back when feel up to reading them all.
Hello All, I will read all your replies soon. I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability. Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ? Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery. All the best to you all and thanks. Kevin
CSThank you...
Hi all, Over a month ago I introduced the web site and the silver-off-topic-list to you all. I just received the second monthly notice from our friends at e-Scribe who run our web archives for both lists. The silver list archive normally gets enough visits to rank in the 20's to 30's out of the hundreds of lists they archive. The first time the OT list appeared, it was unranked, because it had generated so few page hits that it wasn't even in the top thousand that they track. This month, the Silver list was number 32, which is fairly typical, and the OT list was number 164! What this means is that a good number of your are checking the OT list for activity on a regular basis. It's been quite quiet on the OT list thus far, but I thank you all for making it a part of your routine. It's a good sign that we're getting comfortable with the new arrangements. Be well, Mike D. Info on the Silver List and Silver Off Topic List: http://www.silverlist.org [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you...
Hey Mike, Thank you back for providing this discussion group for all of us! ANd the OT list so we have a place to expel our excess thoughts. Richard
RE: CSTHANK YOU.......CS in Gall Bladder
So glad to see this message! Good on you Christiane for having such strength. Me? I am a student of pharmacology, and It's nice to be able to help in some way. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: John Osowiecki [mailto:ti...@peoplepc.com] Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2001 4:14 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTHANK YOU...CS in Gall Bladder Hello all, I am so sorry that I haven't had an opportunity before now to sit and jot you a line to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Tracy.thank you for giving a yell so that people would give me an opinion. Marshalee..thank you for all your kind and gracious words..I hope to reply to you soon. Others...thank you for your responses, I put them all together in making my final decision. And..Last but certainly not least...Ivan..WOW You impressed me. Did you go look up all that technical info about the gall bladder and its function, or did you just know it? You were right on! In fact, I printed your email out (leaving out your email addy and name) to bring to the doctors to help to convince them that what I was doing without their input wasn't going to kill her. ~:-} Anyway, I have put the CS directly into her gall bladder twice a day for over a week now. The floaties are gone.the thickness is gone...and her itching is relieved. Last Tuesday I had a battle with Gabrielle's liver team. They talked to me intelligently and with an open mind. Their initial response was an ABSOLUTE, resounding NO After about 1/2 hour of calm, intelligent exchanging of facts, they not only agreed to let me continue to use it (as if they could be in control of what I do at home), but are looking into it in more detail to perhaps use in other children with lines into their bodies that are having problems with chronic infection. I had done a control study with the use of CS in her gall bladder, and that impressed them greatly. They have adequate proof that it works, as far as they are concerned, the only problem is that there is only ONE case study..Gabrielle. It is unlikely they will be able to duplicate this experiment, as this is the first time this type of tube has been placed in a child. I am bless to have so many minds to pick when I have questions. And I thank you for being willing to stand on the shaky ground of giving opinions about treatment of a chronically ill child. I thank you all again. God bless, Christiane
RE: CSTHANK YOU.......CS in Gall Bladder
What a glorious story! Love to Gabrielle. Congratulations on your calm, intelligent exchanging of facts. You will note on this list a constant edging toward CS acceptance by you-know-who because the facts are with us. What facts seemed to impress them most? Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: John Osowiecki [mailto:ti...@peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTHANK YOU...CS in Gall Bladder Hello all, I am so sorry that I haven't had an opportunity before now to sit and jot you a line to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Tracy.thank you for giving a yell so that people would give me an opinion. Marshalee..thank you for all your kind and gracious words..I hope to reply to you soon. Others...thank you for your responses, I put them all together in making my final decision. And..Last but certainly not least...Ivan..WOW You impressed me. Did you go look up all that technical info about the gall bladder and its function, or did you just know it? You were right on! In fact, I printed your email out (leaving out your email addy and name) to bring to the doctors to help to convince them that what I was doing without their input wasn't going to kill her. ~:-} Anyway, I have put the CS directly into her gall bladder twice a day for over a week now. The floaties are gone.the thickness is gone...and her itching is relieved. Last Tuesday I had a battle with Gabrielle's liver team. They talked to me intelligently and with an open mind. Their initial response was an ABSOLUTE, resounding NO After about 1/2 hour of calm, intelligent exchanging of facts, they not only agreed to let me continue to use it (as if they could be in control of what I do at home), but are looking into it in more detail to perhaps use in other children with lines into their bodies that are having problems with chronic infection. I had done a control study with the use of CS in her gall bladder, and that impressed them greatly. They have adequate proof that it works, as far as they are concerned, the only problem is that there is only ONE case study..Gabrielle. It is unlikely they will be able to duplicate this experiment, as this is the first time this type of tube has been placed in a child. I am bless to have so many minds to pick when I have questions. And I thank you for being willing to stand on the shaky ground of giving opinions about treatment of a chronically ill child. I thank you all again. God bless, Christiane
CSTHANK YOU.......CS in Gall Bladder
Hello all, I am so sorry that I haven't had an opportunity before now to sit and jot you a line to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Tracy.thank you for giving a yell so that people would give me an opinion. Marshalee..thank you for all your kind and gracious words..I hope to reply to you soon. Others...thank you for your responses, I put them all together in making my final decision. And..Last but certainly not least...Ivan..WOW You impressed me. Did you go look up all that technical info about the gall bladder and its function, or did you just know it? You were right on! In fact, I printed your email out (leaving out your email addy and name) to bring to the doctors to help to convince them that what I was doing without their input wasn't going to kill her. ~:-} Anyway, I have put the CS directly into her gall bladder twice a day for over a week now. The floaties are gone.the thickness is gone...and her itching is relieved. Last Tuesday I had a battle with Gabrielle's liver team. They talked to me intelligently and with an open mind. Their initial response was an ABSOLUTE, resounding NO After about 1/2 hour of calm, intelligent exchanging of facts, they not only agreed to let me continue to use it (as if they could be in control of what I do at home), but are looking into it in more detail to perhaps use in other children with lines into their bodies that are having problems with chronic infection. I had done a control study with the use of CS in her gall bladder, and that impressed them greatly. They have adequate proof that it works, as far as they are concerned, the only problem is that there is only ONE case study..Gabrielle. It is unlikely they will be able to duplicate this experiment, as this is the first time this type of tube has been placed in a child. I am bless to have so many minds to pick when I have questions. And I thank you for being willing to stand on the shaky ground of giving opinions about treatment of a chronically ill child. I thank you all again. God bless, Christiane
Re: CSThank you
At 12:13 PM 10/21/01 -0500, you wrote: I just wanted to thank everyone on this list for their willingness to share regarding CS. I belong to homesteading ladies list where I'm sort of considered one of the regular information folks. It's so nice to be able to glean from others for awhile. I will say I'm still a little confused about all the conflicting info I'm reading about CS. I will try to be patient and learn from everyone. I hope to get a generator soon. Ken, you posted that you are making your CS by the gallon. On your site you have an option for a quart jar...do you have a gallon option? Deanna I regularly make half gallon batches. I see no reason why you couldn't make gallon sized batches. They take a very long time and require periodic attention though. Just use a bigger container. Including a small heat source helps with the large batches considerably. ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank you
I just wanted to thank everyone on this list for their willingness to share regarding CS. I belong to homesteading ladies list where I'm sort of considered one of the regular information folks. It's so nice to be able to glean from others for awhile. I will say I'm still a little confused about all the conflicting info I'm reading about CS. I will try to be patient and learn from everyone. I hope to get a generator soon. Ken, you posted that you are making your CS by the gallon. On your site you have an option for a quart jar...do you have a gallon option? Deanna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSthank you Mike
I have been out all day. Thank you Mike, for fielding all the questions that have been coming up. We have had several new members. There is a lot to talk about since this tragedy. I am glad folks have a safe place to voice their concerns...but still let's remember to be nice. Joanne Thomason... List owner..off-topic-list Subscribe: silver-off-topic-list-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Just send a message to the list-subscribe address and they will send you a confirmation e-mail that you must reply to. At that point you'll start getting messages from the list.
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Christiane, I read your message and would like to know how I get into the archives to check something our. Thanks, Hugh Boggs - Original Message - From: Christiane Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: CSTHANK YOU ARCHIVES!!! Wow..I just used the archives for the first time. I had a question about a black tongue, and I had remembered that had been discussed before, so I checke the archives, and found that Hanan had a black tongue at one time, and James (good ole James) suggested that perhaps she had some pepto bismol.that can cause your tongue to go black. Well..that is exactly what happened to me I took pepto last night before bed, and this morning woke up with a completely black tongue and gums. I am posting this, because I want you to know how my thinking process went..because I used CS in a way that I never had before last night, as well. I went to a friends house last night who has a dog, and on the way home, my head started itching severely. I mean...maddeningly. I was itching my head until it started to bleed, and I was STILL itchy!!! I have never had my head itch like this. I was panicking that I had gotten lice, or fleas or something. ~:0} Then I thought...well.maybe if I put some CS on it, that will get rid of the cooties. CS works for everything. So I sprayed it on my itchy scalp, and I got instant relief. Not only did it stop itching, but it didn't itch all night. Well...when I woke up this morning, I had a metal taste in my mouth. You know, the aftertaste that you sometimes get after taking CS. I thought, that's odd, I sprayed it on my head, not in my mouth... I drank 32 ounces of water, and my mouth still tasted like metal. I went about my morning, getting my kids changed, and dressed, and fed (still with this metal taste in my mouth)...and finally got about to brushing my teeth. When I looked in the mirror, my gums were all black, as well as my tongue!~! COMPLETELY BLACK!! My mind went crazy..CS on my head, absorbed by my tongue...cooties on my tongue now.what am I going to do?! Then I remembered that someone on the list had the same problem and decided to check the archives...that's where James mentioned the pepto bismol thing, and I remembered that I had taken some the night before, as well, for my heartburn (which I hardly ever get anymore) So...If I hadn't been on the silver list.I might've said that CS gave me a black tongue...see how these things get started!!?? Am I am a 3 year user of CS to boot...AND make my own! While I was on the archives, I looked up eczema for a friend of mine, and got some answers on THAT too!! (Thanks Tracy). Soif any of you have never searched the archives, check them out!! They are packed with information that is very easy to find, and also very quick! I was shocked at how quickly it sorted everything out..faster than most web pages take to load! Keep up the good work MIKE.and everyone who contributes all this wealth of informationanother CS blue monster theory stopped in its tracks ~:0} Foiled again!!! Horray, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTHANK YOU ARCHIVES!!!
Wow..I just used the archives for the first time. I had a question about a black tongue, and I had remembered that had been discussed before, so I checke the archives, and found that Hanan had a black tongue at one time, and James (good ole James) suggested that perhaps she had some pepto bismol.that can cause your tongue to go black. Well..that is exactly what happened to me I took pepto last night before bed, and this morning woke up with a completely black tongue and gums. I am posting this, because I want you to know how my thinking process went..because I used CS in a way that I never had before last night, as well. I went to a friends house last night who has a dog, and on the way home, my head started itching severely. I mean...maddeningly. I was itching my head until it started to bleed, and I was STILL itchy!!! I have never had my head itch like this. I was panicking that I had gotten lice, or fleas or something. ~:0} Then I thought...well.maybe if I put some CS on it, that will get rid of the cooties. CS works for everything. So I sprayed it on my itchy scalp, and I got instant relief. Not only did it stop itching, but it didn't itch all night. Well...when I woke up this morning, I had a metal taste in my mouth. You know, the aftertaste that you sometimes get after taking CS. I thought, that's odd, I sprayed it on my head, not in my mouth... I drank 32 ounces of water, and my mouth still tasted like metal. I went about my morning, getting my kids changed, and dressed, and fed (still with this metal taste in my mouth)...and finally got about to brushing my teeth. When I looked in the mirror, my gums were all black, as well as my tongue!~! COMPLETELY BLACK!! My mind went crazy..CS on my head, absorbed by my tongue...cooties on my tongue now.what am I going to do?! Then I remembered that someone on the list had the same problem and decided to check the archives...that's where James mentioned the pepto bismol thing, and I remembered that I had taken some the night before, as well, for my heartburn (which I hardly ever get anymore) So...If I hadn't been on the silver list.I might've said that CS gave me a black tongue...see how these things get started!!?? Am I am a 3 year user of CS to boot...AND make my own! While I was on the archives, I looked up eczema for a friend of mine, and got some answers on THAT too!! (Thanks Tracy). Soif any of you have never searched the archives, check them out!! They are packed with information that is very easy to find, and also very quick! I was shocked at how quickly it sorted everything out..faster than most web pages take to load! Keep up the good work MIKE.and everyone who contributes all this wealth of informationanother CS blue monster theory stopped in its tracks ~:0} Foiled again!!! Horray, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTHANK YOU ARCHIVES!!!
Hugh, (an anyone else who may not have noticed.) At the bottom of every silver list post there is a link to go to the archives...here it is! http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Enjoy!!! Christiane ~:0} - Original Message - From: Hugh Julie h...@voyager.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: Re: CSTHANK YOU ARCHIVES!!! Christiane, I read your message and would like to know how I get into the archives to check something our. Thanks, Hugh Boggs - Original Message - From: Christiane Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: CSTHANK YOU ARCHIVES!!! Wow..I just used the archives for the first time. I had a question about a black tongue, and I had remembered that had been discussed before, so I checke the archives, and found that Hanan had a black tongue at one time, and James (good ole James) suggested that perhaps she had some pepto bismol.that can cause your tongue to go black. Well..that is exactly what happened to me I took pepto last night before bed, and this morning woke up with a completely black tongue and gums. I am posting this, because I want you to know how my thinking process went..because I used CS in a way that I never had before last night, as well. I went to a friends house last night who has a dog, and on the way home, my head started itching severely. I mean...maddeningly. I was itching my head until it started to bleed, and I was STILL itchy!!! I have never had my head itch like this. I was panicking that I had gotten lice, or fleas or something. ~:0} Then I thought...well.maybe if I put some CS on it, that will get rid of the cooties. CS works for everything. So I sprayed it on my itchy scalp, and I got instant relief. Not only did it stop itching, but it didn't itch all night. Well...when I woke up this morning, I had a metal taste in my mouth. You know, the aftertaste that you sometimes get after taking CS. I thought, that's odd, I sprayed it on my head, not in my mouth... I drank 32 ounces of water, and my mouth still tasted like metal. I went about my morning, getting my kids changed, and dressed, and fed (still with this metal taste in my mouth)...and finally got about to brushing my teeth. When I looked in the mirror, my gums were all black, as well as my tongue!~! COMPLETELY BLACK!! My mind went crazy..CS on my head, absorbed by my tongue...cooties on my tongue now.what am I going to do?! Then I remembered that someone on the list had the same problem and decided to check the archives...that's where James mentioned the pepto bismol thing, and I remembered that I had taken some the night before, as well, for my heartburn (which I hardly ever get anymore) So...If I hadn't been on the silver list.I might've said that CS gave me a black tongue...see how these things get started!!?? Am I am a 3 year user of CS to boot...AND make my own! While I was on the archives, I looked up eczema for a friend of mine, and got some answers on THAT too!! (Thanks Tracy). Soif any of you have never searched the archives, check them out!! They are packed with information that is very easy to find, and also very quick! I was shocked at how quickly it sorted everything out..faster than most web pages take to load! Keep up the good work MIKE.and everyone who contributes all this wealth of informationanother CS blue monster theory stopped in its tracks ~:0} Foiled again!!! Horray, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThank you !
I want to thank everybody for there help(you know who you are). I will tell her of all the things that you have forwarded to me. This means a lot to me . I have a zapper and a CS maker that are going to be very busy for a while. I will let you know how this turns out. Good I hope ! I also made some request of some very special friends so I'm thinking she has a pretty good chance. One more thing if you will. Please pray for her too. It can't hurt, I am.
CSThank you to All
Dear silver list, I don't often post on this list but I read the digest everyday. I just wanted to let everyone to know how much this list has helped me in my search for a cure for Lyme disease. I first heard about the list from Trem at Silvergen. I purchased my CS maker from him. That was back in May. After being sick for 8 years I had pretty much given up hope. Now I feel like I have my life back. I am very confident in using CS even though I get the warnings from family members. I have this confidence because of all the great info from this list. I know that if some of you have been using CS for years and are not gray, then it must be okay. I don't understand most of the technical stuff, but I glean so much just from the daily conversations. I am now starting the 4 step Beck protocol which I also heard from this list. I still have some symptoms from the lyme and am hoping this will help. So, a big thank you to everyone and a very MERRY CHRISTMAS to all. Chris S. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you to All
Dear Chris, DOn't forget to try to add in Olive Leaf extract, Grapefruit seed extrat, Oil of Oregano, 4-thieves vinegar, and astralagus and echinacia to your Lyme regimen. I believe in hitting microbes with everything including the kitchen sink. Barb Dear Chris, DOn't forget to try to add in Olive Leaf extract, Grapefruit seed extrat, Oil of Oregano, 4-thieves vinegar, and astralagus and echinacia to your Lyme regimen. I believe in hitting microbes with everything including the kitchen sink. Barb
CSthank you marshall
Thank you Marshall for explaining that. I never realised that could happen. My Mother is O- which is where I get mine O- from, so I never had reason to assume otherwise. I love genetics - they are so interesting. Speaking of which, my daughter has a rare genetic disorder which is genetic. She got a recessive gene from both my husband and I. The thing I want to research is that she has a metabolic disorder. My sister has downs syndrome, also a metabolic disorder. My Mother has a underfunctiong thyroid as I do, which is also a metabolic problem. The thing that interests me is that most doctors won't recognise that the thyroid only has to be off balance slightly to cause a metabolic disturbance in the body. Could it be possible that this slight alteration in metabolism could cause a child to be born to parents like this, with a metabolic disorder. I find it VERY frustrating that doctors wouldn't even consider this if your thyroid test is o.k. My temp is 35.6, my blood pressure is low, my pulse is slow at rest, I am always cold, even in the heat, but because by b..thyroid test is normal, they won't do diddly squat! What does any of you think that knows anything about thyroids? Do you think this could create a metabolic child? It just seems very coincidental that metabolic problems run in my family along with metabolic disordered children! Tracy. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Joanne ThomasonThank you Mary for your recent message. I wish I knew of something to help your son but I haven't a clue. Hope someone does. Good luck Joanne Joanne Thomason sami...@earthlink.net This is my Beautiful Sami Jo Click on me to send my mommy mail :-) samismlstat100.JPG
CSthank you to the teachies
Joanne ThomasonIf something is over your head (and most of it certainly is over mine) just delete, you do not even have to read it, but certainly don't condemn them for wanting to explore the more technical aspects of making CS. If you have a question that is non tech they have always been willing to answer. Bless them for taking the time to respond to anyone who asks about anything you care to discuss. Have a good day Joanne Joanne Thomason sami...@earthlink.net This is my Beautiful Sami Jo Click on me to send my mommy mail :-) samismlstat100.JPG
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Hi, After alot of reading and recommendations I decided to suggest Essiac Tea. Herxing from parasite die off might scare him away although I have sent that information aswell. Cleaning the air might prove difficult at the hospital... if we can only get him home. If the Essiac tea boosts his immune system enough I will go for suggesting the parasite cleanse and ozone purification system then stem from there. I have sent the information with his son and hope he will try it. An herbal tea seems non-evasive enough, I hope... I guess after that we have to hope that there hasn't been too much damage done to the organs already. I really appreciate all your help and I will keep you updated. I hope they try it... if not something. What have they got to loose??? Maybe he doesn't want to die and is putting up with his kids telling him to let go. We will find out... And maybe he is praying to god for help, like Marsha did before CS was introduced to her. Be well, Kim
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what is herxing?please tell me. neethi -Original Message- From: KIM BROWN dreamcoun...@sprint.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, October 01, 2000 4:00 AM Subject: CSThank-you Hi, After alot of reading and recommendations I decided to suggest Essiac Tea. Herxing from parasite die off might scare him away although I have sent that information aswell. Cleaning the air might prove difficult at the hospital... if we can only get him home. If the Essiac tea boosts his immune system enough I will go for suggesting the parasite cleanse and ozone purification system then stem from there. I have sent the information with his son and hope he will try it. An herbal tea seems non-evasive enough, I hope... I guess after that we have to hope that there hasn't been too much damage done to the organs already. I really appreciate all your help and I will keep you updated. I hope they try it... if not something. What have they got to loose??? Maybe he doesn't want to die and is putting up with his kids telling him to let go. We will find out... And maybe he is praying to god for help, like Marsha did before CS was introduced to her. Be well, Kim
CSThank you for your Suggestions
I would like to thank Maureen, m2b, and Brooks Bradley for taking the time to offer suggestions to treat nerve damage. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear Carol- My doctors don't know about my silver use. The only doctor (my family doc) that has ever wanted to help me is very thrilled about my progress. The other smuckpie doctors don't have any comment. Tami M -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Thank you for your reply:0) Sounds to me like I have about a couple more months of herxing until I will see some significant improvements.:0) I HOPE. I get very tired during herx and in more pain. I don't have ear problems but got stuck with voice problems. You have the arthritus then? I don't really have that. Voice problems..you mean scratchy throat? I have that..I always feel I need to clear it..but I can't..it's usually in the morning for a few hours. Thanks for the encouragement! :0) Nicole:O) - Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at Yahoo! Auctions.
CSThank you all!
Thank you to all the generous spirited listers who replied to my wife's problem. The good news is that the pain disappeared within 4 hours, although she felt a few twinges for about another 4 hours...and then forgot about the ear. She just used the CS about 6 times. Isn't a strange quirk of human nature that CS has to prove itself every time when you use it, even though it has produced near miraculous results in its use time time again!! I must confess that I've sat back when other listers have asked for help in the past expecting someone else to answer there has been little or nothing by way of response. Then at other times there has been almost an avalanche of responses. I wonder if we have more time on the weekend to relax peruse the list more completely, and also respond!? It appears to me to be a lot more mails happening on the weekend...what think ye? Anyway, thanks all, have a great weekend! Rob -Original Message- From: Rob Lowe r...@primus.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 5:03 PM Subject: CS-Ear infection Hi! My wife has an ear infection. The Doctor prescribed an antibiotic which she is unwilling to take due to previous unpleasant experiences with thrush. Apart from taking an increased dose of oral CS, has anyone any experience in placing CS directly in the ear. As a rough guess I would say that it would be safe and effective. If you can place it directly in the eyes then its use for ears should be effective and safe? We use a home brewed CS which is around 10ppm. Anyone help! Thanks, Rob
CSThank you for cat info
Thank you guys all so much for the great cat info -- it'll all be a big help next time my cat gets in a fight -- as long as I catch it in time! It's amazing how much this little week of vet visits has cost -- so I'm really glad for the info. And, Heather, that roll em up in a towel saved me a lot of scratches while irrigating her -- so thanks again. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSThank you Taylor
Thanks Taylor for the info about your friend's wife who used CS to deal with Candida. I'm still deciding whether or not to try it myself. Clint ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSThank you Taylor
Glad to send the info, Clint. I'm still trying to decide myself! Best wishes, Taylor Thanks Taylor for the info about your friend's wife who used CS to deal with Candida. I'm still deciding whether or not to try it myself. Clint -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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I want to say thanks to all that have helped me and the rest and your welcome to all of those that I have helped. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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To all those who have given me info on the starved electrode technique - thank you very much! Bob K. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
