CSalternative remedies for bird flu

[Clayton Family]

http://www.bird-flu-influenza.com/relenza-tamiflu-alternatives-folk- 
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CSAlternative Cancer Therapy in UK

[Jonathan B. Britten]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1136870/The-boy-11-tumours- 
sent-home-die--survives-grandparents-alternative-therapy- 
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CSAlternative Health News Articles Conquer Your Heart Attack Fears With Facts, No

[Paula Perry]

This is really an informative article about heart issues. It recommends a 
number of nutrients. For blockages it talks about Hawthorn syrup by Dr. 
Christopher. It would be worthwhile reading for anyone with heart problems. 

If I change this to plain text the link can't be used.
Paula

 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=852051508page=news

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Conquer Your Heart Attack Fears With Facts, No

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Paula,

At 06:36 AM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
This is really an informative article about heart issues. It 
recommends a number of nutrients. For blockages it talks about 
Hawthorn syrup by Dr. Christopher. It would be worthwhile reading 
for anyone with heart problems.


I think Dr. Christopher may have been the original to use it, not sure.

Another doctor, that was a Heart Surgeon, and just Quit, he said that 
was not the way to

do it.  He became a trainer and physical fitness expert,
( maybe Dr. Mirkin, not sure )  He did advocate Hawthorne berry syrup.

I have a friend that grew up in KY.  He said his grand father used to 
send the younger boys into the hills and mountains to get Hawthorne 
berries for him.


I never had any fresh Hawthorne berries, maybe they taste good.

However I eat many kinds of wild berries, when I can find them.  Some 
tell me the ones I eat are poison.  Maybe so, maybe not.


Here are pictures of some...  http://www.fugitt.com/files/wildberry/

My daughter says they are not wild, and they are poison,   They are 
growing wild on my land,

and I ate some anyway.I asked her,  How long before I die ?

Others say the wild black cherries are poison.  Many so, but I have 
been eating them for years.

Also eat huckleberries, blackberries, and any other kind I can find.

Relative to the Hawthorne berries, and the syrup,  I would have to 
say, many have lived to a

ripe old age, no heart problems, and  had none of the berries and the syrup.

Likely the magic in them exists other places as well.



If I change this to plain text the link can't be used.


http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=852051508page=newshttp://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=852051508page=news 



  I don't understand that at all.   I just sent it in html and both 
links worked.


For the benefit of those with crippled mailers and browsers, I will 
send it in plain text.


Wayne




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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Conquer Your Heart Attack Fears With Facts, No

[Paula Perry]

Thanks Wayne,
Hope you have a happy birthday.
Paula
- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Conquer Your Heart Attack
Fears With Facts, No


 Morning Paula,

 At 06:36 AM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
 This is really an informative article about heart issues. It
 recommends a number of nutrients. For blockages it talks about
 Hawthorn syrup by Dr. Christopher. It would be worthwhile reading
 for anyone with heart problems.

  I think Dr. Christopher may have been the original to use it, not
sure.

 Another doctor, that was a Heart Surgeon, and just Quit, he said that
 was not the way to
 do it.  He became a trainer and physical fitness expert,
 ( maybe Dr. Mirkin, not sure )  He did advocate Hawthorne berry syrup.

 I have a friend that grew up in KY.  He said his grand father used to
 send the younger boys into the hills and mountains to get Hawthorne
 berries for him.

 I never had any fresh Hawthorne berries, maybe they taste good.

 However I eat many kinds of wild berries, when I can find them.  Some
 tell me the ones I eat are poison.  Maybe so, maybe not.

 Here are pictures of some...  http://www.fugitt.com/files/wildberry/

 My daughter says they are not wild, and they are poison,   They are
 growing wild on my land,
 and I ate some anyway.I asked her,  How long before I die ?

 Others say the wild black cherries are poison.  Many so, but I have
 been eating them for years.
 Also eat huckleberries, blackberries, and any other kind I can find.

 Relative to the Hawthorne berries, and the syrup,  I would have to
 say, many have lived to a
 ripe old age, no heart problems, and  had none of the berries and the
syrup.

 Likely the magic in them exists other places as well.

 
 If I change this to plain text the link can't be used.
 
 

http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=852051508page=newsh
ttp://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=852051508page=news
 

I don't understand that at all.   I just sent it in html and both
 links worked.

 For the benefit of those with crippled mailers and browsers, I will
 send it in plain text.

 Wayne




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CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's Miracle For Constipa

[Paula Perry]

Has anyone tried this?
Paula

 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=10590122108page=article

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's Miracle For Constipa

[Dee]

No but its an idea!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Paula Perry
Date: 23/06/2008 12:14:50
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's
Miracle For Constipa
 
Has anyone tried this?
Paula

 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page
php?id=10590122108page=article
 

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's Miracle For Constipa

[Hanneke]

Yes, Paula, I have done this as part of the Master Cleanse
(water/lemonjuice/cayenne pepper) for ten days. Good
experience.
Hanneke
At 08:29 PM 23/06/2008, you wrote:

Has anyone tried this?
Paula


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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's Miracle For Constipa

[N Cameron]

yes I have Paula 
I used just sodium chloride (table salt) I used 3 teaspoons to a quart of warm 
water on an empty stomach and drank it down ...the water was rejected by my 
kidneys and exited via my colon ...I did it  first thing upon waking during a 
21 day fast not every day though maybe about seven times ..I didn't really 
enjoy it that much ...also I drank water with Himalayan salt added 1/4 teaspoon 
to 16 ounces of water x 5 or 6 bottles every day( electrolytes)plus raw 
vegetable juice and vitamin and mineral supplement
I lost about 25 lbs 
I passed a lot of strange looking material that was better gone from my body 
...and I felt so much better I was 66 years old and badly injured in a fall
Norm

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's Miracle For Constipa

[Paula Perry]

Thanks Hanneke,
I often enjoy your messages. Some of them I can't view however until I update 
my service.
Paula
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  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:29 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's 
Miracle For Constipa


  Yes, Paula, I have done this  as part of the Master Cleanse  
(water/lemonjuice/cayenne pepper) for ten days.  Good experience.

  Hanneke

  At 08:29 PM 23/06/2008, you wrote:

Has anyone tried this?
Paula

  
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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's Miracle For Constipa

[Paula Perry]

Thanks Norm,
I have been thinking about this as I am always low on sodium on blood tests. 
Glad you had good results.
Paula
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  From: N Cameron 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Salt Water Purge Is God's 
Miracle For Constipa


  yes I have Paula 
  I used just sodium chloride (table salt) I used 3 teaspoons to a quart of 
warm water on an empty stomach and drank it down ...the water was rejected by 
my kidneys and exited via my colon ...I did it  first thing upon waking during 
a 21 day fast not every day though maybe about seven times ..I didn't 
really enjoy it that much ...also I drank water with Himalayan salt added 1/4 
teaspoon to 16 ounces of water x 5 or 6 bottles every day( electrolytes)plus 
raw vegetable juice and vitamin and mineral supplement
  I lost about 25 lbs 
  I passed a lot of strange looking material that was better gone from my body 
...and I felt so much better I was 66 years old and badly injured in a fall
  Norm

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles New Ideas About The Cause, Spread And Therapy

[Paula Perry]

Hi Jess,
You should easily be able to get it in the herb section of any healthfood store 
or order it online. It is not a hard herb to find. 
Paula
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:20 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles New Ideas About The Cause, 
Spread And Therapy


  Paula thanks for this. do you know where you can get cats claw non tao ? 
Thanks, Jess

  - Original Message -
  From: Paula Perry 
  Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:14 am
  Subject: CSAlternative Health News Articles New Ideas About The Cause, 
Spread And Therapy
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com

   Important info about Lyme Disease,-cat's claw, newer testing 
   method, and other related diseases. 
   Paula
   
   http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-
   page.php?id=12101216206page=article

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles New Ideas About The Cause, Spread And Therapy

[jessie70]

Paula thanks for this. do you know where you can get cats claw non tao ? 
Thanks, Jess

- Original Message -
From: Paula Perry 
Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:14 am
Subject: CSAlternative Health News Articles New Ideas About The Cause, Spread 
And Therapy
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Important info about Lyme Disease,-cat's claw, newer testing 
 method, and other related diseases. 
 Paula
 
 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-
 page.php?id=12101216206page=article

CSAlternative Health News Articles New Ideas About The Cause, Spread And Therapy

[Paula Perry]

Important info about Lyme Disease,-cat's claw, newer testing method, and other 
related diseases. 
Paula

 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=12101216206page=article

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles New Ideas About The Cause, Spread And Therapy

[mborgert]

Paula,

very very interesting, thanks.
Mary
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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines

[Marshall Dudley]

Dee wrote:
I wish we had a Ron Paul in the UK!  Dee  
  

I wish we had him on the CS list!

Marshall
---Original Message--- 

 

From: Paula Perry 

Date: 26/01/2008 12:30:35 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 


Subject: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against
Dangerous Vaccines 

 


Ron Paul on the issues of health freedom, forced vaccinations, and the FDA.
(Take note Ode) 

Paula 

 


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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines

[GMetropulo]

In a message dated 1/28/08 12:07:38 PM, mdud...@king-cart.com writes:


 
  http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=1544502201;
 page=article
 

unable to retrieve this article


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ways to stay in shape.
 
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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines

[Paula Perry]

just go to healthtruthrevealed.com and scroll down.
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  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against 
Dangerous Vaccines



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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines

[Ode Coyote]

  Gone OT for yet another scathing rant.

 Takes a dunderhead, to know a dunderhead?
 That's about right.

Con men taught me this: [It took a while and tens of thousands of $$, worth 
every penny and I set the price. ]

 I can be conned even while knowing I am *being* conned.
 Those who don't know that, haven't a prayer.

Ode


At 07:04 AM 1/26/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Ron Paul on the issues of health freedom, forced vaccinations, and the 
FDA. (Take note Ode)

Paula


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CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines

[Paula Perry]

Ron Paul on the issues of health freedom, forced vaccinations, and the FDA. 
(Take note Ode)
Paula

 http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=1544502201page=article

Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines

[Dee]

I wish we had a Ron Paul in the UK!  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Paula Perry 

Date: 26/01/2008 12:30:35 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against
Dangerous Vaccines 

 

Ron Paul on the issues of health freedom, forced vaccinations, and the FDA.
(Take note Ode) 

Paula 

 

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Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines

[faith gagne]

It won't do much good unless he gets elected.  Faith G.


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CSAlternative Health News Articles URGENT ALERT FDA Has Gone Into Stealth Mode In

[Paula Perry]

Urgent Alert to supplement consumers. Note changes of not sending messages 
through 3rd party. Call and/or write your representatives and the FDA directly. 

Some representatives regard E-mail through interest groups as spam. Calling and 
written/mailed letters are much more effective.
Paula

Link below for more information and directions.

 http://healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=1511529904page=article

CSalternative Asthma treatment

[Faith Saint Francis]

Hi Deborah!

Did I send you the alternative asthma treatment I had prepared for several 
members of our Forum?


If you are interested, please write to

luzy...@une.net.co

and I shall send the extensive class to you at once.

Take Care,

FaithStFrancis

Lisensed, committed Reflexology therapist

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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[Dee]

There is none.  This cholesterol thing is a myth perpetuated by companies
trying to sell cholesterol lowering products, plus the big drug companies. 
Our parents ate this natural substance with no ill effects as do I.  The
incidences of cancer and heart disease have trebled since the low fat
debacle.  Eat as naturally as you can, but all things in moderation, and you
can't go wrong.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Deborah Gerard
Date: 19/03/2007 00:53:34
To: cs
Subject: CSAlternative to butter
 
What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie 

CSAlternative to butter

[Deborah Gerard]

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie
 
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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[G K Murray]

In my opinion there is no alternative to butter.  If it is man made, it 
is no good.  Just use butter with respect.


Deborah Gerard wrote:

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie 
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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[Deborah Gerard]

Thanks for all the great info...I was concerned about my cholestral levels 
being high and thought it might be because I use butter ...thanks again 
...debbie

Karen Eck karen...@eoni.com wrote:  At 04:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:
  What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie
Butter

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html
Does butter cause disease? On the contrary, butter protects us against many 
diseases.  ... Butter is America's best and most easily absorbed source of 
vitamin A. 

The Wulzen or anti-stiffness factor is a nutrient unique to butter. Dutch 
researcher Wulzen found that it protects against calcification of the 
joints--degenerative arthritis--as well as hardening of the arteries, cataracts 
and calcification of the pineal gland. Unfortunately this vital substance is 
destroyed during pasteurization. 

www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/testimony/proposedwicrevisions.doc 
The Price Factor or Activator X: Discovered by Dr. Price, Activator X is a 
powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body absorb and 
utilize minerals. It is found in organ meats from grazing animals and some sea 
food. Butter can be an especially rich source of Activator X when it comes from 
cows eating rapidly growing grass in the spring and fall seasons. It disappears 
in cows fed cottonseed meal or high protein soy-based feeds.[1] Fortunately, 
Activator X is not destroyed by pasteurization. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/chronicdisease.html
The nutrient Price called Activator X, most richly concentrated in milk fat 
from cows grazing on rapidly growing pasture, may be the most important 
activator of all. Price was able to reverse tooth decay and cure many diseases 
using X-Factor butter oil concentrate in conjunction with high-vitamin cod 
liver oil. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#butter
Nutrients in Butter
The Diet Dictocrats have succeeded in convincing Americans that butter is 
dangerous, when in fact it is a valued component of many traditional diets and 
a source of the following nutrients: Fat-Soluble Vitamins: These include true 
vitamin A or retinol, vitamin D, vitamin K and vitamin E as well as all their 
naturally occurring cofactors needed to obtain maximum effect. Butter is 
America's best source of these important nutrients. In fact, vitamin A is more 
easily absorbed and utilized from butter than from other sources.61 
Fortunately, these fat-soluble vitamins are relatively stable and survive the 
pasteurization process. 

When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the world, he 
found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He did not find any 
isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) The groups he studied 
particularly valued the deep yellow butter produced by cows feeding on rapidly 
growing green grass. Their natural intuition told them that its life-giving 
qualities were especially beneficial for children and expectant mothers. 



 
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Re[2]: CSAlternative to butter

[zoe W]

 Debbie, please go towww.mercola.com and do a search on cholesterol   Read and then stop worrying.
zoe

Sunday, March 18, 2007, 7:07:26 PM, you wrote:
Thanks for all the great info...I was concerned about my cholestral levels being high and thought it might be because I use butter ...thanks again ...debbie

Karen Eck karen...@eoni.comwrote:
At 04:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie

Butter

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html
Does butter cause disease? On the contrary, butter protects us against many diseases. ... Butter is America's best and most easily absorbed source of vitamin A.

The Wulzen or "anti-stiffness" factor is a nutrient unique to butter. Dutch researcher Wulzen found that it protects against calcification of the joints--degenerative arthritis--as well as hardening of the arteries, cataracts and calcification of the pineal gland. Unfortunately this vital substance is destroyed during pasteurization.

www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/testimony/proposedwicrevisions.doc
The Price Factor or Activator X:Discovered by Dr. Price, Activator X is a powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body absorb and utilize minerals. It is found in organ meats from grazing animals and some sea food. Butter can be an especially rich source of Activator X when it comes from cows eating rapidly growing grass in the spring and fall seasons. It disappears in cows fed cottonseed meal or high protein soy-based feeds.
[1] Fortunately, Activator X is not destroyed by pasteurization.

http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/chronicdisease.html
The nutrient Price called "Activator X," most richly concentrated in milk fat from cows grazing on rapidly growing pasture, may be the most important activator of all. Price was able to reverse tooth decay and cure many diseases using "X-Factor" butter oil concentrate in conjunction with high-vitamin cod liver oil.

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#butter
Nutrients in Butter
The Diet Dictocrats have succeeded in convincing Americans that butter is dangerous, when in fact it is a valued component of many traditional diets and a source of the following nutrients: Fat-Soluble Vitamins: These include true vitamin A or retinol, vitamin D, vitamin K and vitamin E as well as all their naturally occurring cofactors needed to obtain maximum effect. Butter is America's best source of these important nutrients. In fact, vitamin A is more easily absorbed and utilized from butter than from other sources.61 Fortunately, these fat-soluble vitamins are relatively stable and survive the pasteurization process.

When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the world, he found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He did not find any isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) The groups he studied particularly valued the deep yellow butter produced by cows feeding on rapidly growing green grass. Their natural intuition told them that its life-giving qualities were especially beneficial for children and expectant mothers.





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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[CWFugitt]

At 06:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:


What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie


I never knew butter needed an alternative.   What is wrong with butter?

Nature never made a bad fat, only man makes bad fats.

I eat all the butter I want, which is not a ton per year of course.

We have to realize that our grand parents ate butter the year round.  How 
much?  All they wanted I feel sure.


All the butter I see today is  sweet cream butter.I would pay $ 10.00 
per pound for some

Sour Cream Butter the way I used to make it in the 50's.

There is no comparison of the two.The sweet cream butter does not even 
taste like butter to me.


If you think it is bad, don't eat butter or the alternative, whatever that 
is.  grin


The real question is  are you eating enough FAT, 
period.  Balance the Omega 3 and Omega 6 and eat all the fat you 
want.   Nutritionist figured 100 years ago it is better for us than most carbs/


Plus, it is a great energy source and long lasting.   The heart needs fats 
for energy as does the rest of the body.


The very, very old ratio for foods was   40 % fat, 40 % protein and 20 % 
carbs which I still believe after many years, 50 or so at least.


I think most people don't eat enough butter for it to even be a concern.  I 
know I don't,  about 1/2 pound every 6 months, if that much.   Still, I eat 
all I want when I want it.


I cook redfish and talipia in butter and sear the slivered almonds also.
Also use a touch when making french toast.One loaf of bread last about 
4 months and I throw half of it away.


I may have one or two lousy eating habits but bread and butter are not two 
of them.


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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[Karen Eck]

At 04:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie


Butter

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html
Does butter cause disease? On the contrary, butter protects us 
against many diseases.  ... Butter is America's best and most easily 
absorbed source of vitamin A.


The Wulzen or anti-stiffness factor is a nutrient unique to butter. 
Dutch researcher Wulzen found that it protects against calcification 
of the joints--degenerative arthritis--as well as hardening of the 
arteries, cataracts and calcification of the pineal gland. 
Unfortunately this vital substance is destroyed during pasteurization.


www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/testimony/proposedwicrevisions.doc
The Price Factor or Activator X: Discovered by Dr. Price, Activator X 
is a powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body 
absorb and utilize minerals. It is found in organ meats from grazing 
animals and some sea food. Butter can be an especially rich source of 
Activator X when it comes from cows eating rapidly growing grass in 
the spring and fall seasons. It disappears in cows fed cottonseed 
meal or high protein soy-based feeds.[1] Fortunately, Activator X is 
not destroyed by pasteurization.


http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/chronicdisease.html
The nutrient Price called Activator X, most richly concentrated in 
milk fat from cows grazing on rapidly growing pasture, may be the 
most important activator of all. Price was able to reverse tooth 
decay and cure many diseases using X-Factor butter oil concentrate 
in conjunction with high-vitamin cod liver oil.


http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#butter
Nutrients in Butter
The Diet Dictocrats have succeeded in convincing Americans that 
butter is dangerous, when in fact it is a valued component of many 
traditional diets and a source of the following nutrients: 
Fat-Soluble Vitamins: These include true vitamin A or retinol, 
vitamin D, vitamin K and vitamin E as well as all their naturally 
occurring cofactors needed to obtain maximum effect. Butter is 
America's best source of these important nutrients. In fact, vitamin 
A is more easily absorbed and utilized from butter than from other 
sources.61 Fortunately, these fat-soluble vitamins are relatively 
stable and survive the pasteurization process.


When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the 
world, he found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He 
did not find any isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) 
The groups he studied particularly valued the deep yellow butter 
produced by cows feeding on rapidly growing green grass. Their 
natural intuition told them that its life-giving qualities were 
especially beneficial for children and expectant mothers.

Re: CSAlternative to butter

[Karen Eck]

At 06:16 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:  Debbie,  please go to 
www.mercola.htmwww.mercola.com  and do a search on 
cholesterol Read  and then stop worrying.zoe


Thanks for all the great info...I was concerned about my cholestral 
levels being high and thought it might be because I use butter 
...thanks again ...debbie


How old are you? How high is your cholesterol? In older women higher 
cholesterol levels are very protective -- to a point.

I found that info at http://www.mercola.com, like Zoe says.

Heart disease is due to the intake of too much 
sugar/starch/carbohydrate. We've been lied to - big time!


The Great Cholesterol Con  (book) by Anthony Colpo
http://www.thegreatcholesterolcon.com/  [quote]
The shocking, sordid tale of the cholesterol scam - a mind-boggling 
saga of ignorance, corruption, deceit and greed - is a subject worthy 
of an entire book! So that's exactly what I've done; after years of 
research, I've finally put together The Great Cholesterol Con: Why 
Everything You've Been Told About Cholesterol, Diet and Heart Disease 
is Wrong!
   * A single disgruntled researcher, who conducted some of the 
sloppiest and most shamelessly biased research ever seen, was largely 
responsible for launching the anti-animal fat/anti-cholesterol mania 
as we know it today!
   * The rise in coronary heart disease that occurred during the 
twentieth century had nothing whatsoever to do with saturated fat intake!
   * Study after study has shown that people with so-called 
'healthy' low cholesterol levels actually live shorter lives!
   * Upon closer scrutiny, the very studies that have formed the 
cornerstone of the anti-cholesterol argument actually show that 
cholesterol and saturated fat are not harmful!
   * Numerous populations consuming high saturated fat diets have 
been documented to enjoy very low rates of heart disease!
   * Over fifty years' worth of clinical dietary intervention trials 
have completely failed to show any mortality benefit among those 
following saturated fat-restricted diets - in fact, several of these 
studies showed higher death rates among those assigned to diets low 
in saturated fats!
   * Many dietary recommendations made by 'experts' to reduce heart 
disease have actually been shown in animal and human studies to 
increase heart disease, cancer, diabetes and obesity!
   * The primary force behind the anti-cholesterol paradigm is not 
public health, but greed! Drug companies, food companies, the medical 
profession, and health organizations all make billions in dollars of 
profit from the cholesterol theory!


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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[Clayton Family]

I would like to humbly remind you about coconut oil- it is traditional 
in many diets where dairy animals were not in use. Also avocados are 
considered an excellent food to be given to very young children.



On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Karen Eck wrote:
 When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the 
world, he found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He did 
not find any isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) The 
groups he studied particularly valued the deep yellow butter produced 
by cows feeding on rapidly growing green grass. Their natural 
intuition told them that its life-giving qualities were especially 
beneficial for children and expectant mothers.


 



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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[cking001]

Butter, Olive oil, coconut oil- all virgin and unprocessed are best.
Read weston prices classic tome Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
as he visited primitives and remote peoples away from civilized
foods and what happens within a generation when they are introduced
to civilized food.
It'll shake you up!

Chuck
I know a guy who had his doctor say take some weight off, go to a
health club.
 This man lost 20 pounds in one week!
 The machine tore his leg off!

On 3/18/2007 8:32:32 PM, G  K Murray (kg...@sasktel.net) wrote:
 In my opinion there is no alternative to butter.  If it is man made, it
 is no good.  Just use butter with respect.
 
 Deborah Gerard wrote:
 
  What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie


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CSAlternative/Standby Power Systems

[Brooks Bradley]

   The recurring posts on energy generation and over-unity devices, mainly on the Off-topic list, prompted me to make this post.  While conventional Diesel/electric generation systems do not offer any "break-through" technologiesthey offer a most acceptable address for persons experiencing power outages--most especially for days or weeks at a time*or possibly longer--- in cases of National or regional emergency.  For those among the list membership who might be interested in some form of reliable back-up power system and are doubtful about the quality/dependability of possible..continuous use... Generation Systems, I, recently came across some units of a type I KNOW to be rugged enough to address the challenges of high-power, continuous demand system loads.  First a little story:  Back in the 1970's I was the southern division running maintenance manager for AMTRAK.  Our Diners, high-level sleepers and high-level chair cars were powered by!
  Detroit Diesel 2-71 Generator Sets (20KW constant output capacity).  These self-contained units were used throughout the fleet, as they had been earlierby Santa Fe, Burlington Northern, etc.
They suffered every kind of abuse imaginableespecially from poorly-performed maintenance..and they just kept going.  We ran some of them over 60,000 total hours before even rendering a top-end over-haul.  Some of these engines were in consists (system train units) that covered over 1,000,000 milesbetween overhauls.  Bottom linethese systems are TOUGH.  Much moreso than systems presently being manufactured.
 I do not know, personally, any of the people at the business where I located these 2-71- powered systems-but I certainly do know this 2-71 based Diesel/Electric System.  These units, because of their peculiar postive-displacement plunger-type injector pumps can even run off of warm PURE VEGETABLE or waste oil.
  These people also offer a modified system (primarily a pre-injection heating system)
allowing the continual use of filtered waste cooking oil.  Even the standard, rebuilt, engine will operate very nicely on biodiesel fuel.without heating the fuel beforehand.  None of the new, close-tolerance pumps can do this.
  We are going to purchase one of these units as our standby power.primarily because of its ruggedness, but additionally, because the cost of another...currently acceptable systems incorporating the equivalent capabilities have been priced to us starting at about $19,000and most have what we consider inferior temperature tolerance and surge accomodation  
characters.
   Please do not receive this post as a shill for these people.but I am fascinated that these systems are still in existence and available.  They were designed to run  "CONTINUOUSLY" and even if we ran them out of oil, the low oil-pressure shut-off stopped the engine before damage could occur.  There are, in my opinion, very few electro-mechanical devices remaining in our commercial national inventoryof the capability---and true worthas this, particular, system.  It is not small and it is not light (over 2000 lbs)...but it is a splendidlong-proven, positive testimony to a time-past when this nation lead the world in quality for money.  Just try to find an alternator with as much copper in it as these systems possess? 
  Please forgive my "gilding-the-lily" address for this system, but it is...really, an old friend.and a true one, I might add. 
The url   for the company refurbishing these units is;   Http://www.affordablepower.com 

 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley
p.s.  These are my, personal, opinions...and in no way reflect any position of our Harborne Research Foundation.  


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Re: CSAlternative/Standby Power Systems

[John McLean]

Hi Brooks  List Members,
We ran a GM 6-71 (which is the 6 cylinder version of the 2-71 coupled to a 250 
KVA Delco alternator for years it never faltered. It was second hand when we 
bought it and had a total of 35,000 hours on it when we sold it. We needed a 
large alternator to supply our power needs (a 24 hour truckstop) 

As a retired diesel engineer, I can tell you the 2 stroke GM diesel are renown 
for their longevity, provided one changed the engine oil regularly along with 
the fuel and air filter.
John in Australia




  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:36 AM
  Subject: CSAlternative/Standby Power Systems


   First a little story: Back in the 1970's I was the southern division running 
maintenance manager for AMTRAK. Our Diners, high-level sleepers and high-level 
chair cars were powered by! Detroit Diesel 2-71 Generator Sets (20KW constant 
output capacity). These self-contained units were used throughout the fleet, as 
they had been earlierby Santa Fe, Burlington Northern, etc. 
  They suffered every kind of abuse imaginableespecially from 
poorly-performed maintenance..and they just kept going. We ran some of them 
over 60,000 total hours before even rendering a top-end over-haul. Some of 
these engines were in consists (system train units) that covered over 1,000,000 
milesbetween overhauls. Bottom linethese systems are TOUGH. Much moreso 
than systems presently being manufactured. 
  I do not know, personally, any of the people at the business where I located 
these 2-71- powered systems-but I certainly do know this 2-71 based 
Diesel/Electric System. These units, because of their peculiar 
postive-displacement plunger-type injector pumps can even run off of warm PURE 
VEGETABLE or waste oil. 

Re: CSAlternative/Standby Power Systems

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CSAlternative Cancer Treatments Home Page and Information Center

[Paula Perry]

For anyone battling Cancer this is the site to learn about Alternative methods.

 http://www.cancertutor.com/index.html

CSAlternative Cancer Therapies

[Paula Perry]

about low dose Naltrexone. We ordered it from a pharmacy in NY. They were great 
and it is not expensive. 
Paula

 http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy3.htm#Low%20Dose%20Naltrexone

CSAlternative Orthography

[Jonathan B. Britten]

List,

Several times in the past few months, one member has responded to 
messages using an alternative English orthography -- i.e., a kind of 
phonemic spelling system that was unconventional  but readable.


I can not find the postings from this person in my files.   Would that 
member kindly identify him/herself, and explain the orthography?


I happen to be interested in that topic, but failed to flag those 
messages and now can't find them.


A direct reply from the member or someone who recalls that persons 
identity would be fine.


Apologies for the off-topic request.


JBB


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CSAlternative Medicines

[William Amos]

Dr. Blonz:
With todays soaring costs in the medical field, many people are turning to 
alternative medicines and therapy.

I will understand if you do not want to discuss this topic, since it applies to 
your field. 

I have heard much about alternative medicines, but lets pick one in particular, 
Colloidal Silver.
It is a fact that silver is used throughout the world in burn centers. 
Recently, although I understand it wasn't originated by them, Curad came out 
with a band aid that contains silver
which in lab tests was shown to reduce bacterial growth such as Staph, aureus, 
E.coli, E.hirae, and P. aeruginosa.

I have read statements that make a stronger statement than this stating that 
there is no known virus or bacteria that can survive more than six minutes in 
the presence of silver.

Your comments would be appreciated.

William Amos


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CSAlternative to Airbrush nebulizer

[Dave Darrin]

  I've been in possession of an air brush nebulizer that works off of 
an oxygen tank for some time now and it works great, but a little 
awkward to take along when traveling.
  What's to say oxidized is bad?  On the other hand when I travel I 
take along a small puff bottle of CS and DMSO mix. I've found that it 
works better than the airbrush by a magnitude of at least 10 times.
  I puff about five puffs up each nostril and then for strep throat 
like condition I puff it a few times in the back of my throat while 
breathing deeply.
  By puff bottle I am describing a bottle Sinex comes in that has a 
pump
that puts out a fine mist, not a squeeze bottle that would flood you 
into
a gag response. The top with the pump is snapped in place and must be 
removed by prying ( not an easy task) with a table knife or something 
similar. I leave a few drops of Vicks Visine in the bottle and save the 
rest for refilling at about four drops per fill. The Vicks helps open 
the airways to let the CS get to the bugs it needs to contact and the

DMSO also helps in this regard.
  My Wife is a singer and was going to sing at an event when she came 
down with a sore throat that was traveling down to the lungs rapidly.
She only had about two hours to the event and had decided she would go 
but wouldn't be able to sing as all she could do was croak. I gave her 
the puff bottle and she hesitantly used it thinking it was useless at 
that late time. She uses the airbrush frequently and knows how long it 
takes to relieve this sort of a problem with it.
  Well to make a long story short, she went,she did sing and all 
symptoms had completely disappeared.
  I've shared this method with a number of friends and now I have to 
fend off the insistence that I patent this protocol and get rich.

THEY JUST DON'T KNOW DO THEY.
Dave

fig...@comcast.net wrote:

Airbrush nebulizer. Is the colloidal silver being oxidized?

I showed my airbrush nebulizer to a pretty smart guy the other day and he
said the silver would be oxidized by the oxygen.

BTW anyone who is interested in using this method can likely order a small
tank of welding oxygen from Trigas, attach a good regulator to it, and go to
town.

Dan



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CSAlternative Health in California

[Reid Harvey]

CSers,
Several months ago I read something written by Tim Bolen, that
California has passed some unique legislation.  It sounded to me as if
the new laws allow Californians to apply for, and have health insurance
paid to the so-called 'alternative health' professionals.  i.e.
chiropractors, acupuncturists and others could receive health insurance
dollars for services rendered.  Am I being simplistic?  Did I miss
something?  Can somebody please explain to me what happened and the
ramifications?
Thanks,
Reid




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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[CKing001]

Stick pins in one of her dolls?
Lets see... thats... Oh, never mind...

Chuck
Why do men die before their wives?
They want to.

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wrote:

My ex wife was totally cured with 3 accupuncture treatments. She had a 
severe, painful case due to her doll making. Of course, now, I hope it 
returns with twice the pain.


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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Jennifer Popp]

Geez, you're on a roll today :-))

Jenn Popp
Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet
http://www.healthy-paws.ca

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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Jack Dayton]

Hi Bob,

The condition you mention will very often respond , and
rather quickly , to vitamin C.   Get some 1,000 mg C ,
take one tablet 3 times daily ( morning,afternoon  night.)
If this is going to help, it should end the problem is about  2 weeks.

DO NOT buy a bargain C, --  try to  find some with
Citrus Bioflavonoids.  Rutin,   Hesperidin Complex.
You might find the above plus a few other  ingredients, that's OK
If this does it for you then you will want to cut back to 1 or 2 daily.

Jack 


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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[d.linen]

  Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel
in the hands (not sure if the spelling is correct). 
  Looking for some thing besides going under the knife. 
  I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time. 

   Thanks Bob 

 Dear Bob, One of my professors at BYU has a teenage son who had
carpal tunnel pain, which the docs wanted to operate on. They met a
chiropractor at
 church one day. When he found out the boy had CTS, he asked has he
ever fallen down, onto his hands? She said yes, so with her permission
he adjusted
 the boys`s hands. The pain was gone and didn`t come back. I have
also heard that using vitamin B6 helps.

 Good luck!!
 Marshalee

I have a friend who had this same sort of thing occur. She suffered pain
for about a year and one day fell against her van and held her hand out
to brace herself, and felt a 'pop' and the pain was gone. A sort of self
adjustment, I guess.


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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Kevin Nolan]

How do you define 'back'? Seems to me raising the back of a keyboard will cause 
the hands to bend further back - away from the desk top, not towards it.

Kevin Nolan
  - Original Message - 
  From: gallen4...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAlternative treatments


  You don't say what the cause is, but if it is heavy use of a computer 
keyboard, here's a suggestion.

  I use a computer many hours a day and eventually had carpal tunnel in both 
wrists bad enough to have braces on both hands. Then I read an analysis 
somewhere that the syndrome comes from having the hands bent backward toward 
your body as you type -- a physically stressful position. 

  The solution suggested was to raise the back of the keyboard up higher than 
the front so that your hands are bent down toward the desk top, which is not 
stressful.  I put a piece of wood under my keyboard to raise the back about an 
inch and a half.

  In about ten days or two weeks the problem disappeared. That was more than a 
year ago. I still have the braces, but have never needed them since.  

  I also put a small board under the mouse pad and raised it too. 

  Good luck.  George A. 

Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Gary Green]

On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 07:41  PM, d.linen wrote:


I have a friend who had this same sort of thing occur. She suffered pain
for about a year and one day fell against her van and held her hand out
to brace herself, and felt a 'pop' and the pain was gone. A sort of self
adjustment, I guess.


You bet, happens everyday!  The body is wonderfully self-healing if 
nothing gets in the way.




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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Catherine Creel]

Hi George,


  You said:

The solution suggested was to raise the back of the keyboard up higher
than the front so that your hands are bent down toward the desk top, which
is not stressful.  I put a piece of wood under my keyboard to raise the back
about an inch and a half.


  That's interesting, because ergonomics experts will tell one to not
elevate the back of the keyboard as it causes one to bend the wrists
back, and invites CTS.

Regards,
Catherine


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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[GAllen4296]

The back is the side closest to your belly button. 

CSAlternative treatments

[Medwith, Robert]

 Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel in the
hands (not sure if the spelling is correct).
 Looking for some thing besides going under the knife.
 I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time.

  Thanks Bob

Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Marshalee Hallett]

Alternative treatments
   Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel in the 
hands (not sure if the spelling is correct). 
   Looking for some thing besides going under the knife. 
   I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time. 

Thanks Bob 

  Dear Bob, One of my professors at BYU has a teenage son who had carpal tunnel 
pain, which the docs wanted to operate on. They met a chiropractor at church 
one day. When he found out the boy had CTS, he asked has he ever fallen down, 
onto his hands? She said yes, so with her permission he adjusted the boys`s 
hands. The pain was gone and didn`t come back. I have also heard that using 
vitamin B6 helps.

  Good luck!!
  Marshalee

Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Marlene Hanson]

Getting your nutrition balanced and PH corrected can be beneficial.  I have 
found reducing simple Carbohydrates, B vitamins, and minerals helped my CT. 
 The Chiropractic adjustment of arms neck and hands was also beneficial. 
Marlene


Alternative treatments
   Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel in 
the hands (not sure if the spelling is correct).

   Looking for some thing besides going under the knife.
   I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time.

Thanks Bob

  Dear Bob, One of my professors at BYU has a teenage son who had carpal 
tunnel pain, which the docs wanted to operate on. They met a chiropractor 
at church one day. When he found out the boy had CTS, he asked has he ever 
fallen down, onto his hands? She said yes, so with her permission he 
adjusted the boys`s hands. The pain was gone and didn`t come back. I have 
also heard that using vitamin B6 helps.


  Good luck!!
  Marshalee






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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Brooks Bradley]

   Dear Sir,
In our experimental medical investigations of
carpal tunnel syndrome, we were able to develop quite simple and most
inexpensive protocol addresses to this most uncomfortable
disorder...from among a quite varied experimental volunteer
population.   One of the simplestand most effective.being the
utilization of vitamin B-6, plus  frequent exposure to very low-tech
Light-Emitting Diode assemblies (utilizing 5 to 15  3500 mcd
[milli-candle] ).  For a more comprehensive coverage of our experimental
research investigations..plus actual dosages and times of
exposure-please contact me off-list.
It isnow my personal view this is a
HIGHLY treatable condition--quite exclusive of invasive surgical
techniques.
Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley.

Medwith, Robert wrote:



  Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel in
 the hands (not sure if the spelling is correct).
  Looking for some thing besides going under the knife.
  I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time.

   Thanks Bob

Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Dean T. Miller]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:18:29 -0600, Marshalee Hallett
liah...@utah-inter.net wrote:

  Dear Bob, One of my professors at BYU has a teenage son who had carpal 
 tunnel pain, which the docs wanted to operate on. They met a chiropractor at 
 church one day. When he found out the boy had CTS, he asked has he ever 
 fallen down, onto his hands? She said yes, so with her permission he 
 adjusted the boys`s hands. The pain was gone and didn`t come back. I have 
 also heard that using vitamin B6 helps.

Yup.

IMO, everyone should have the book What's Really Wrong With You? by
Thomas Griner.

There are loads of body conditions that are being caused by muscle
spasms -- in tiny, tiny muscles.  Among the conditions that can be
caused are those that are attributed to infections (and infections may
be present, but the body can't counteract them due to one or more
muscles being in spasm).  Conditions such as: diabetes, sinus pain,
nervous stomach, varicose veins, etc.

What happens is that the spasmed muscles can block proper blood flow
to areas of the body.  The spasms can also inhibit nerve responses
which, in turn, prevent the body from knowing about problem areas --
so the problems aren't corrected.

The book describes all of this and methods to correct the situations.
(Did you know that just being born can cause muscles to become spasmed
-- and remain in spasm -- for your whole life; affecting how you grow
and learn, affecting your immune system, affecting your weight and
physical abilities?)
 
-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[GAllen4296]

You don't say what the cause is, but if it is heavy use of a computer 
keyboard, here's a suggestion.

I use a computer many hours a day and eventually had carpal tunnel in both 
wrists bad enough to have braces on both hands. Then I read an analysis 
somewhere that the syndrome comes from having the hands bent backward toward 
your body as you type -- a physically stressful position. 

The solution suggested was to raise the back of the keyboard up higher than 
the front so that your hands are bent down toward the desk top, which is not 
stressful.  I put a piece of wood under my keyboard to raise the back about 
an inch and a half.

In about ten days or two weeks the problem disappeared. That was more than a 
year ago. I still have the braces, but have never needed them since.  

I also put a small board under the mouse pad and raised it too. 

Good luck.  George A.

Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Marshall Dudley]

I seem to recall the use of a laser or LED source was helpful, but can't
remember what the protocol was.  Brooks might know.

Marshall

Marshalee Hallett wrote:

Any one out there know of alternative treatments for
  carpul tunnel in the hands (not sure if the spelling is
  correct).
   Looking for some thing besides going under the knife.
   I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short
  time.

Thanks Bob

  Dear Bob, One of my professors at BYU has a teenage son who
  had carpal tunnel pain, which the docs wanted to operate on.
  They met a chiropractor at church one day. When he found out
  the boy had CTS, he asked has he ever fallen down, onto his
  hands? She said yes, so with her permission he adjusted the
  boys`s hands. The pain was gone and didn`t come back. I have
  also heard that using vitamin B6 helps.

  Good luck!!
  Marshalee

Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Gary Green]

On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 10:10  PM, Medwith, Robert wrote:

Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel in 
the hands (not sure if the spelling is correct).

 Looking for some thing besides going under the knife.
 I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time.


Chiropractic adjustment of the wrist.
Brace the wrist.
B vitamins.
More adjustments as needed and Time.

Works in my practice.

Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Gary Green]

On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 04:35  AM, Dean T. Miller wrote:


There are loads of body conditions that are being caused by muscle
spasms -- in tiny, tiny muscles.


Yep, now ask why they are in spasm.  Generally around motor units in the 
spine that are fixated.  Get the motor units moving and no more spasm.  
That's Chiropractic.




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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Ronen Yehiav]

Use proper magnetic treatment.
Get the Conquering Pain book from www.magnetizer.com
and apply the magnets as specified.

If you use magnets properly, it works like a charm (which is not).

Ronen.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Green 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:55 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAlternative treatments


  On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 10:10 PM, Medwith, Robert wrote:


Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel in the 
hands (not sure if the spelling is correct).
 Looking for some thing besides going under the knife.
 I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time.


  Chiropractic adjustment of the wrist.
  Brace the wrist.
  B vitamins.
  More adjustments as needed and Time.

  Works in my practice.

Re: CSalternative websites

[d.linen]

Walter Chronkite?

Wayne Fugitt wrote:
 
 Evening Nina,
 
  Who said this? I don't know who the Dean of Journalism is.
 
 Likely they don't have one now.  This was an older guy that was highly
 respected by all journalist.
 Everyone considered him to be The Dean of Journalist.
 
The referenced meeting was about 12 or 15 years back.
 
I know I have it.  Will see if I can find it.
 
   Wayne
 
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CSalternative websites

[Mary]

Does anyone have a URL for an alternative view on the WTC incident? Please
email me privately as this is off topic. Thanks, Mary


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Re: CSalternative websites

[Beverle Sweitzer]

Maybe I am just being sensitive but what is an alternative view?


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Re: CSalternative websites

[Josephine]

I agree with your comments.
Yes, and we must not forget the domestic terrorists, the Timothy McVay
types.
All sorts of very horrible havoc could break out internally at this
vulnerable time.

Josephine
Hawaii

- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSalternative websites


 At 01:07 PM 09/15/2001 -0400, you wrote:
 I have some reservations about this WAR.  Seems the media has overused
it
 a bit.

 If ole bin Laden is have as smart as I think he is, he will try to kill 2
 Americans for each of his people that are killed.

 I think there exist hundreds of groups of terrorist in this
 country.  When  the time comes, they will pull the cork on some very
wicked
 stuff.

 Wayne






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RE: CSalternative websites

[Ian Roe]

Hi:

Well, an alternative view would be one that was significantly different that
what one reads in newspapers and hears on the TV.  I don't know of a site
that has crystalized an alternative view on the Attack, but there would be
lots of people who would have one including myself.  There are established
resources, books and tapes which expose a different history of North America
and Europe and the world over the last 300 years, a historical past greatly
controlled by world central banks and their owners, enemies created and
destroyed purely for the profit of world bankers etc.  Some refer to it as
the conspiracy theory but now most of those people no longer believe it is
conspiracy but something factual and being played out.  Anyone knowing
anything about the Illuminati would be aware of this.  I don't even know of
lists where people can talk about this as conversations can get pretty
intense and the CS list probably would get severely moderated if such a
discusssion started here.  There are lots of resource sites
www.realityzone.com   www.themoneymasters.com
http://syninfo.com/Epperson/index.htmlx to name three of them.

-Original Message-
From: Beverle Sweitzer [mailto:aber...@erols.com]
Sent: 15-Sep-01 1:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSalternative websites


Maybe I am just being sensitive but what is an alternative view?


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Re: CSalternative websites

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 01:07 PM 09/15/2001 -0400, you wrote:

Maybe I am just being sensitive but what is an alternative view?


  Any view other than that presented to us by the lying, cheating, and 
controlled media.


If anyone can't understand that, they need to read the statement made by 
the Dean of Journalism himself at a conference of reporters.


He said.  There is not one man here that can say or write what he 
believes or thinks. If he did he would be out of a job before morning.


Unfortunately, I don't recall his name, but I do have the document. Finding 
it would be a task.


Of course we all have alternative views, or we would not be on this list, 
or even be human for that matter.


Sometimes my alternative view is 49 %, other times it is 51 %, and at other 
times it is 90 or 100 %.


I have some reservations about this WAR.  Seems the media has overused it 
a bit.


If ole bin Laden is have as smart as I think he is, he will try to kill 2 
Americans for each of his people that are killed.


I think there exist hundreds of groups of terrorist in this 
country.  When  the time comes, they will pull the cork on some very wicked 
stuff.


Wayne






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Re: CSalternative websites

[Nina Silver]

- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSalternative websites


 If anyone can't understand that, they need to read the statement made by 
 the Dean of Journalism himself at a conference of reporters.
 
 He said.  There is not one man here that can say or write what he 
 believes or thinks. If he did he would be out of a job before morning.

Wayne,
Who said this? I don't know who the Dean of Journalism is.

Thanks.
Nina


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Re: CSalternative websites

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Nina,

Who said this? I don't know who the Dean of Journalism is.

   Likely they don't have one now.  This was an older guy that was highly 
respected by all journalist.

Everyone considered him to be The Dean of Journalist.

  The referenced meeting was about 12 or 15 years back.

  I know I have it.  Will see if I can find it.

 Wayne


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CSalternative

[Debbie McDonald]

Citizens for health
http://www.ahpa.org/sendmail.asp
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