Re: [SLUG] Small Linux distro
Hi all Alan L Tyree wrote: I run Debian Sarge on a laptop that has similar specs. Because of the mouse problem, I find IceWm to be one of the best, but I have also run fluxbox and Xfce without problems. Just my two bits on this, you could try ratpoison and almost do away with mouse usage in a window manager.I say _almost_, as I still need to use the mouse for web page links. Regards Shehjar -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] What is libnsl ?
Hello sluggers, I'm trying to build hal (hardware abstraction layer) for Gnome's volume manager for 2.8. It comes with -lnsl not found - what is libnsl.so if it exists, or is this a script bug ? I can't get into the freedesktop.org site (where hal lives) because it's been hacked... so no info. thanks Rod -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What is libnsl ?
Hi Rod On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Rod Butcher wrote: Hello sluggers, I'm trying to build hal (hardware abstraction layer) for Gnome's volume manager for 2.8. It comes with -lnsl not found - what is libnsl.so if it exists, or is this a script bug ? I can't get into the freedesktop.org site (where hal lives) because it's been hacked... so no info. thanks Rod A quick google shows that it is part of libc and is called Name Services Layer according to: http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/libnsl.htm Definition: libnsl: Name services library, a library of name service calls (getpwnam, getservbyname, etc...) on SVR4 Unixes. GNU libc uses this for the NIS (YP) and NIS+ functions. -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html On my RedHat 9 and Debian boxes it lives in /usr/lib -- Darren Williams dsw AT gelato.unsw.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gelato.unsw.edu.au -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OT: Aerial for Unwired connection.
G'day... Sorry for the off-topic posting, but I'm guessing if anyone would know the answer to this, they'd be here. I've just gotten myself an unwired connection - which is all well and good - however, I seem to be in a dead spot, and only get low to medium signal strength. The backyard has excellent reception, but its not exactly easy to keep the modem there. Does anyone know if there is a way to construct a better aerial for the modem to increase reception? TIA Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Solved - libnsl
Sorry, as usual I was too hasty, googling to Syney Uni tells me I already have libnsl courtesy of glib and it's a network services library. so I need to fix the link script... and figure out why it creams my USB keyboard (broken hotplug ?). cheers Rod Email message attachment, Forwarded message - Re: [SLUG] What is libnsl ? Forwarded Message From: Darren Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rod Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] What is libnsl ? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:20:20 +1100 Hi Rod On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Rod Butcher wrote: Hello sluggers, I'm trying to build hal (hardware abstraction layer) for Gnome's volume manager for 2.8. It comes with -lnsl not found - what is libnsl.so if it exists, or is this a script bug ? I can't get into the freedesktop.org site (where hal lives) because it's been hacked... so no info. thanks Rod A quick google shows that it is part of libc and is called Name Services Layer according to: http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/libnsl.htm Definition: libnsl: Name services library, a library of name service calls (getpwnam, getservbyname, etc...) on SVR4 Unixes. GNU libc uses this for the NIS (YP) and NIS+ functions. -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html On my RedHat 9 and Debian boxes it lives in /usr/lib -- Darren Williams dsw AT gelato.unsw.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gelato.unsw.edu.au -- -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Aerial for Unwired connection.
Michael, I too have an unwired connection, in a similar reception level to your self. I have improved this by using an external antenna, future enhancements to my signal quality is to use a spare satellite dish. More information can be found at the whirlpool.net.au forums, in the unwired section. Phil. On 18/11/2004, at 9:51 PM, Michael S. E. Kraus wrote: G'day... Sorry for the off-topic posting, but I'm guessing if anyone would know the answer to this, they'd be here. I've just gotten myself an unwired connection - which is all well and good - however, I seem to be in a dead spot, and only get low to medium signal strength. The backyard has excellent reception, but its not exactly easy to keep the modem there. Does anyone know if there is a way to construct a better aerial for the modem to increase reception? TIA Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Remote Fedora installation
I have a machine hosted in the US that's in need of a reinstall. Upgrading isn't really an option- the current OS can't be trusted after a recent breakin, besides which the version of Red Hat it's running now is far too crusty to attempt an upgrade to Fedora. The only likely result I've seen from google, http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=541e07a7d1425c3dc2df69e6c48e0a52showtopic=236207 , seems to imply that the install CD has an sshd on board, which a friendly NOC guy will cheerfully start. However it then goes on to say that the NOC guy has to be friendly enough to actually run through a bare install. Has anybody tried this and can offer advice? Is it really as simple as booting CD, setting a root password, bringing up a network interface and sshd? How does one launch the installer from a shell prompt? http://fedora.redhat.com/ is depressingly lacking in docs, and I didn't notice anything in the RH9 manual about remote installs. The other option is to use a chroot environment in the current OS to bootstrap a new installation, a la http://trilldev.sourceforge.net/files/remotedeb.html . It's much longer and riskier than installing from a CD. But it may be preferable to asking my NOC guys to sit at the console hitting enter. -- Pete -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] PPP failure
Hello guys, I need help on the PPP. We have PSOS 2.5V and trying to run Tcp/Ip over PPP. ConfReq timeout is 120 seconds. LCP Negotiation doesn't go thru and eventually it timeouts. I am attaching the log below. Any help is greatly appreciated. Pls feel free to mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- LOG_INFO: ChatDone: channel 1, status 1 LOG_INFO: DialupDone: dialup chat success. channel 1 ConfReq id=0x1 LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 1, id 1 LOG_INFO :s: sending Configure-Request, id LCP 1 LOG_ERR: async: missed ALLSTATIONS Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 1 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x1 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x1 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 1 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 2 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x2 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x2 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 2 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 3 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x3 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x3 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 3 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 4 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO :( 1500 ConfAck id=0x4 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfReq id=0x4 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 4 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 5 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x5 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x5 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 5 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 6 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x6 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x6 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 6 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 7 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x7 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x7 LOG_INFO :( a Rx mode is d5 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 7 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 8 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x8 LOG_INFO
[SLUG] mrtg logs
Hi Slugs, I have MRTG running on a RH7.1 box. it logs several serial interfaces on a cisco router. one log stopped updating sometime in october at about 3AM. all the other logs and links work fine even the one not producing a log anymore. I'm yet to find this by RTFM but what produces the log file that MRTG makes it's graphs from? It must be MRTG polling the router but why is not the router not responding on that particular interface. Nothing changed on the MRTG box (as far as I can tell) so i'm assuming the router is not sending out SNMP on that particular port perhaps? Any clues appreciated. Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Small Linux distro
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:24:54 +0530 Shehjar Tikoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Alan L Tyree wrote: I run Debian Sarge on a laptop that has similar specs. Because of the mouse problem, I find IceWm to be one of the best, but I have also run fluxbox and Xfce without problems. Just my two bits on this, you could try ratpoison and almost do away with mouse usage in a window manager.I say _almost_, as I still need to use the mouse for web page links. True enough. Another tip on small distributions: I did some research trying to fix up my daughter with a live CD that would be easy to install if it worked on her machine. Morphix is good (has a ready made CD with Xfce as the desktop) and Feather is only 60mb or so using Fluxbox as its window manager. Both install from the live CD with a click on the appropriate menu item. Cheers, Alan Regards Shehjar -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] mrtg logs
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 07:05:56AM +1100, Ben Donohue wrote: I'm yet to find this by RTFM but what produces the log file that MRTG makes it's graphs from? MRTG produces the log file. You would usually have mrtg setup in a cron job that runs every so often, which polls the devices and re-writes all the graphs. It must be MRTG polling the router but why is not the router not responding on that particular interface. Nothing changed on the MRTG box (as far as I can tell) so i'm assuming the router is not sending out SNMP on that particular port perhaps? Probably. Can you try rebooting it? You can run mrtg by hand with debugging options, or check where the output of the process is piped to when run via cron; usually there is something useful in that. -i [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] mrtg logs
quote who=Ben Donohue I'm yet to find this by RTFM but what produces the log file that MRTG makes it's graphs from? It must be MRTG polling the router but why is not the router not responding on that particular interface. Nothing changed on the MRTG box (as far as I can tell) so i'm assuming the router is not sending out SNMP on that particular port perhaps? Ben, I used to run mrtg against an Ascend Pipeline (as well as some other things) what I struck once, was something like what you describe, one of my interfaces was no longer showing any traffic eventually, I found out that Ascend would sometimes change interfaces, and, I had to define a new target for mrtg the workaround was to poll all potential interface that Ascend could be using, and, sum it up (or something like that sorry, this was like a few years ago...) I think... it was like target1+target2+target3 kind of stuff that system is no longer in use, so, can't look it up right now... so, your problem could be something like this as well hth, -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] mrtg logs
Ben Donohue wrote: I have MRTG running on a RH7.1 box. it logs several serial interfaces on a cisco router. one log stopped updating sometime in october at about 3AM. all the other logs and links work fine even the one not producing a log anymore. Are you able to ascertain that nothing has been changed up to that time on that specific cisco router ? I understand in your statement below nothing has changed in your RH7.1 box . If you are convinced that nothing changed including a 'reboot', then its time to investigate that maybe that router has been interfered with, without your knowledge. I presume this router is on the internet. Remember, hackers don't disable their prey; they just use it as a vehicle for some other ulterior motive. I'm yet to find this by RTFM but what produces the log file that MRTG makes it's graphs from? It must be MRTG polling the router but why is not the router not responding on that particular interface. Nothing changed on the MRTG box (as far as I can tell) so i'm assuming the router is not sending out SNMP on that particular port perhaps? You're right, MRTG on RH box grabs statistics from the cisco router using SNMP. MRTG on RH queries SNMP on cisco for a snapshot of the statistics like, inbound and outbound traffic. MRTG does not obtain its statistics from a log but obtains them directly as an SNMP snapshot and produces logs or graphs that becomes part of html. A number of items must be checked on the cisco router to ensure statistics maybe gathered from that router using SNMP. 1. snmp is configured and running 2. snmp is configured so that a specific user/client/password is permitted to access these statistics. Your SNMP client from RH MRTG must have user/password with access to snmp in cisco router. You may have several cron jobs running on RH polling each snmp server to collect data. Ensure that the cron job for this specific router is still running on RH. You may also need to check your /var/log/messages and /var/log/snmp.log -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Evolution and sending mail
Hi all, Trying to set up my mail using evolution (debian unstable) - various reasons including work shifting to groupwise, and nice palm syncing for the address book. I read mail from an imap server and have my ISP's smtp server set as the outgoing server. When I send mail, however, I get blocked by the MAPS(?) service refused by blackhole site yada yada yada. Have contacted the support people there who point out that this is because my mail appears to come from a dynamic IP address, hence the blocking. Conclusion - it must be a setup problem on my box. I can send mail from mutt, and have set up exim (using dpkg-reconfigure exim) as option 2 (the dialup system) with the ISPs server as the outgoing mail machine. When I set up evolution at work, using the uni's outgoing mail server, I have no problem. Any ideas? Something stupid and simple I've missed I'm positive. Denis Crowdy -- Department of Contemporary Music Studies Macquarie University NSW 2109 Australia, ph: +61 (0)2 9850 6787, fax: 9850 6593 http://www.ccms.mq.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Evolution and sending mail
I could be understanding this incorrectly. but you're on the university network presently and are trying to send mail out through the mail server of your isp? if this is the case the isp will have relaying turned of on their mailservers effectively stopping anyone from outside of their network sending mail via their mail servers (unless they have have smtp authentication happening for instance). which is what is preventing you from sending mail. of course i could have completely misunderstood the situation you're trying to describe. regards, brett On Friday 19 November 2004 10:21, Denis Crowdy wrote: Hi all, Trying to set up my mail using evolution (debian unstable) - various reasons including work shifting to groupwise, and nice palm syncing for the address book. I read mail from an imap server and have my ISP's smtp server set as the outgoing server. When I send mail, however, I get blocked by the MAPS(?) service refused by blackhole site yada yada yada. Have contacted the support people there who point out that this is because my mail appears to come from a dynamic IP address, hence the blocking. Conclusion - it must be a setup problem on my box. I can send mail from mutt, and have set up exim (using dpkg-reconfigure exim) as option 2 (the dialup system) with the ISPs server as the outgoing mail machine. When I set up evolution at work, using the uni's outgoing mail server, I have no problem. Any ideas? Something stupid and simple I've missed I'm positive. Denis Crowdy -- Department of Contemporary Music Studies Macquarie University NSW 2109 Australia, ph: +61 (0)2 9850 6787, fax: 9850 6593 http://www.ccms.mq.edu.au -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Evolution and sending mail
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 10:21 +1100, Denis Crowdy wrote: I read mail from an imap server and have my ISP's smtp server set as the outgoing server. When I send mail, however, I get blocked by the MAPS(?) service refused by blackhole site yada yada yada. Have contacted the support people there who point out that this is because my mail appears to come from a dynamic IP address, hence the blocking. Conclusion - it must be a setup problem on my box. Fixed - wiped all mail accounts, started again, wiped .evolution, copied old .evolution back, set up a new account, had to move mail from the outbox to drafts and back again before it would work. Odd, but solved. Denis -- Department of Contemporary Music Studies Macquarie University NSW 2109 Australia, ph: +61 (0)2 9850 6787, fax: 9850 6593 http://www.ccms.mq.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Aerial for Unwired connection.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:51 pm, Michael S. E. Kraus wrote: G'day... Sorry for the off-topic posting, but I'm guessing if anyone would know the answer to this, they'd be here. I've just gotten myself an unwired connection - which is all well and good - however, I seem to be in a dead spot, and only get low to medium signal strength. The backyard has excellent reception, but its not exactly easy to keep the modem there. Does anyone know if there is a way to construct a better aerial for the modem to increase reception? A cheap and nasty way of improving reception is to use a ground sheet - sit the modem on a sheet of aluminium foil. Usually improves transmission rather than reception (assists air-wave propagation) - but can improve reception too. I've done this with my lappy before and seems to give it another couple of db signal.but external aerial is the way to go. Cheers, James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Remote Fedora installation
This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy wrote: I have a machine hosted in the US that's in need of a reinstall. Upgrading isn't really an option- the current OS can't be trusted after a recent breakin, besides which the version of Red Hat it's running now is far too crusty to attempt an upgrade to Fedora. How crusty? The only likely result I've seen from google, http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=541e07a7d1425c3dc2df69e6c48e0a52showtopic=236207 , seems to imply that the install CD has an sshd on board, which a friendly NOC guy will cheerfully start. However it then goes on to say that the NOC guy has to be friendly enough to actually run through a bare install. That link seems to say that the people at the other end will have to do the basic install. I'm pretty sure I had ssh access during a kickstart though -- needed to start sshd from the spare console first, but after that had remote access during the install. However by this stage it's well after all the questions are asked. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Monthly Meeting: Friday, November 26 2004
When: Friday, November 26, 6:30pm - 9:30pm Where: UTS Broadway SLUG's monthly meeting featuring talks and SLUGlets. Meetings are open to the general public, and free of charge. Please note the change in rooms: This month's meeting will be held in Building 6, Level 3, Room 22 at UTS Broadway (There is a map of UTS availible at http://www.uts.edu.au/about/mapsdirections/bway.html ). General Talk: Jeff Waugh: Sacred Cows and Source Code What do hamburgers and army pants have to do with gcc? Explaining the compile everything culture of cool, and how we can route around the damage. Special Interest Talk Luke Yelavich: Linux. Not quite accessible for everybody. Linux on the desktop is growing, slowly but surely. Yet while most people are interested in the latest KDE themes, or the latest features in GNOME, there is a small group of people who wish for one thing, access to the entire Linux operating system. These people are blind or vision impaired, and when it comes to computer access, have some of the greatest needs of any computer user. As a result of this, a lot more time has to be spent on developing software that works for everybody. This talk will focus on accessibility from a blind/vision impaired perspective. It will touch on some of the social issues of providing proper accessibility, and will also give a brief rundown on what Windows users are currently able to do with commercial software. The current accessibility infrastructure for GNOME will be demonstrated, as well as text console access. Developing accessible applications will also be discussed. As usual, SLUGlets will be running in another room during the 2nd half of the meeting for those who do not wish to attend the 2nd talk. 6:30pm: Doors Open 6:45pm: The Usual Suspects QA - Introduction to SLUG + What has Linux done for/to me lately? + SLUG News Discussion 7:15pm: General Talk Jeff Waugh - Sacred Cows and Source Code. 8:00pm: Break Refreshments in the foyer, for a small covering charge. 8:20pm: Split into two groups for: * Special Interest: (split) Luke Yelavich: Linux. Not quite accessible for everybody. * SLUGlets: quick talks and discussion of Linux and Free Software. Dinner Dinner at Spice Boys (Indian), $20 per head. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Remote Fedora installation
On 11/19/04 11:12, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy wrote: I have a machine hosted in the US that's in need of a reinstall. Upgrading isn't really an option- the current OS can't be trusted after a recent breakin, besides which the version of Red Hat it's running now is far too crusty to attempt an upgrade to Fedora. How crusty? 7.somethingorother. I'm pretty sure I had ssh access during a kickstart though -- needed to start sshd from the spare console first, but after that had remote access during the install. However by this stage it's well after all the questions are asked. *nod* That's what I was afraid of. Guess I'll grab a CD and give it a try. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Remote Fedora installation
This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy wrote: On 11/19/04 11:12, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy wrote: I have a machine hosted in the US that's in need of a reinstall. Upgrading isn't really an option- the current OS can't be trusted after a recent breakin, besides which the version of Red Hat it's running now is far too crusty to attempt an upgrade to Fedora. How crusty? 7.somethingorother. awesome. get yum, point it at a rh8 mirror, then upgrade. then point it at a rh9 mirror, and so on until you get to fc2. that should be peachy[1] [1] peaches may have some bruising. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] guessing compile variables from binary rpm
Sluggers, can anybody tell me how to find out what libs, compiler options etc went into building a binary in an rpm ? Specific example is, I'm trying to find out how Mandrake compiles audacity to get it to work with wxwindows and gnome themes, I can't. thanks Rod -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] PPP failure
I don't think your log is clear enough to determine the problem. Usually I would expect to see a NACK for parameters that aren't being accepted in the negotiation. If you can't increase the quality of the log, I would suggest using something like Ethereal to monitor the link and hopeful you then can see what is going on at a packet level. This should give you the info you need. (What's PSOS 2.5V anyway?) Martin Visser ,CISSP Network and Security Consultant Consulting Integration Technology Solutions Group - HP Services 3 Richardson Place North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia Phone: +61-2-9022-1670 Mobile: +61-411-254-513 Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rajesh Appanna Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 4:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] PPP failure Hello guys, I need help on the PPP. We have PSOS 2.5V and trying to run Tcp/Ip over PPP. ConfReq timeout is 120 seconds. LCP Negotiation doesn't go thru and eventually it timeouts. I am attaching the log below. Any help is greatly appreciated. Pls feel free to mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- LOG_INFO: ChatDone: channel 1, status 1 LOG_INFO: DialupDone: dialup chat success. channel 1 ConfReq id=0x1 LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 1, id 1 LOG_INFO :s: sending Configure-Request, id LCP 1 LOG_ERR: async: missed ALLSTATIONS Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 1 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x1 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x1 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 1 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 2 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x2 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x2 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 2 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 3 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x3 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x3 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 3 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 4 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO :( 1500 ConfAck id=0x4 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfReq id=0x4 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 4 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 5 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x5 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x5 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER LOG_INFO :( 608e9bac LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: returning CONF ACK LOG_INFO :fsm_sdata( LCP): Sent code 2, id 5 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A08 LOG_INFO :fsm_rconfreq( LCP): Rcvd id 6 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A0C LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A12 LOG_INFO :( 1500 Input Pointer 0x1AD0A08 CIP 0x1AD0A16 LOG_INFO : ( ACK ConfAck id=0x6 LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP ConfReq id=0x6 LOG_INFO :( a LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE LOG_INFO :( c023 LOG_INFO : ( ACK LOG_INFO :lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER
Re: [SLUG] guessing compile variables from binary rpm
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 12:29:46PM +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: Sluggers, can anybody tell me how to find out what libs, compiler options etc went into building a binary in an rpm ? Specific example is, I'm trying to find out how Mandrake compiles audacity to get it to work with wxwindows and gnome themes, I can't. Given just the binary RPMs I don't know of a general way. Some code will tell you how it was built (PHP is an example that springs to mind). In general, the best thing to do is to inspect Cooker CVS and take a look at the spec file that created the RPM. There's often numerous patches as well. In the specific case you've mentioned I'd suggest that they've done something to wxWindows build flags rather than audacity though (if they've done anything. It just sounds like GTK is doing its GTK thing). James. -- Now, there are no problems only opportunities. However, this seemed to be an insurmountable opportunity. - http://www.surfare.net/~toolman/temp/diagram.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] guessing compile variables from binary rpm
This one time, at band camp, Rod Butcher wrote: Sluggers, can anybody tell me how to find out what libs, compiler options etc went into building a binary in an rpm ? Specific example is, I'm trying to find out how Mandrake compiles audacity to get it to work with wxwindows and gnome themes, I can't. easiest way is to get the src.rpm from mandrake and read the spec file... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] guessing compile variables from binary rpm
Rod Butcher wrote: Sluggers, can anybody tell me how to find out what libs, compiler options etc went into building a binary in an rpm ? Specific example is, I'm trying to find out how Mandrake compiles audacity to get it to work with wxwindows and gnome themes, I can't. Download the source rpm for that application. This is the Mandrake rpm file with like: audacity.VXX.mdk.src.rpm Then, as root, install it with, rpm -i audacity.VXX.mdk.src.rpm This produces files in SOURCE and SPECS directories of /usr/src/linux/ The file you are interested is in SPECS which is something like: audacity.spec You may view it with your favourite text editor. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] burning audio cds in gnome
I've got some oggs and mp3s, and I've dragged them onto the CD Creator dialog, and want to make an audio CD. I can't find anything that implies it's going to make an audio cd instead of a data cd. Any ideas? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Latex: Parbox through latex2rtf
I have recently found out that my To and From details/address in
correspondence are not being converted into RTF when I used latex2rtf.
I was using /parbox[]{} /hfill /parbox[]{} and latex2rtf just
completely ignores /parbox. No error, zilch. So it escaped my attention
until now.
I'm looking for suggestions for alternative ways of providing To From
on opposite sides of the page at the same level.
TIA
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Re: [SLUG] burning audio cds in gnome
quote who=Jamie Wilkinson I've got some oggs and mp3s, and I've dragged them onto the CD Creator dialog, and want to make an audio CD. I can't find anything that implies it's going to make an audio cd instead of a data cd. It doesn't want to lie to you. It doesn't do audio CDs. :-) I don't really know too much about this, but I believe xcdroast and k3b will convert and burn the audio for you. There's a project called Coaster that is working on a sexy GNOME answer to this. :-) - Jeff -- Ubuntu in Mataró, Spain: December 5th-18th http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ Do you know what [television news ownership] means to me? It gives me the political muscle I need. - Kerry Packer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Why can't browser writers get it right
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 22:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 15Nov2004 @ 17:19 Roger Barnes thusly spake The CSS has: font-family: Verdana, serif; should be font-family: Verdana serif; (no comma) *Bzzzt* _With_ comma is correct. The problem is that without comma worked on M$. Ouch! you're right, sorry, got mixed up with my .muttrc config Luke -- / / _ /_ /_/ / /= 0421 276 282 -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates; Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; when you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Hi all, I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking support in Australia. I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot use it with Linux. Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I got the typical we don't support it response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating system, it will fail to attract many users. In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will not hesitate giving them the flick. Cheers, Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex: Parbox through latex2rtf
Terry Collins wrote:
I have recently found out that my To and From details/address in
correspondence are not being converted into RTF when I used latex2rtf.
I was using /parbox[]{} /hfill /parbox[]{} and latex2rtf just
completely ignores /parbox. No error, zilch. So it escaped my attention
until now.
I'm looking for suggestions for alternative ways of providing To From
on opposite sides of the page at the same level.
Umm that's a hard one. I just even tried an \fbox and a \rule and in all
cases the rtf version just doesn't have the space. It's nothing to do
with the parbox command - it's seems that latex2rtf doesn't recognise
blank spacing commands. A google search shows a reference to getting
parbox to honour spaces in some cvs updates but nothing more.
What about using the colour package and put in some white letters
between the left and right text ? Yucky but it should work.
Mike
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Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot use it with Linux. Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I got the typical we don't support it response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating system, it will fail to attract many users. You can try using this - this advice comes from someone who knows. More than that I cannot say. === Firefox 1.0 downloaded from linuxpackages.net JRE-1.5.0 downloaded from java.com (not the RPM) and doing (as root) cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so . === In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will not hesitate giving them the flick. Try a credit union. They seem to Have A Clue when it comes to browser-independant internet banking. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
I have recently switched over from Commonwealth, whose NetBank works on just about any browser, including Konqueror. However, St George Bank has better options for me. I'll be getting Crossover Office soon anyway and i know you can run IE on it, which works fine with StGeorge Netbank. Vlad On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:54:34 +1100, Marek Wawrzyczny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking support in Australia. I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot use it with Linux. Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I got the typical we don't support it response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating system, it will fail to attract many users. In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will not hesitate giving them the flick. Cheers, Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
I found a long time ago that NAB works ok (I haven't checked recently as I do have to use window$ as my working environment). They use jsp pages so that should be platform independent. I have also put the question to St George and have found them to be very helpful (NOT!). It (though I am not sure) could be that that they have based there system on the old windows VW like the ATO has with their eBAS system which (surprise, surpise) is not compatible with anything else but windows Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Wawrzyczny Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux Hi all, I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking support in Australia. I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot use it with Linux. Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I got the typical we don't support it response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating system, it will fail to attract many users. In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will not hesitate giving them the flick. Cheers, Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latex: Parbox through latex2rtf
Hi
Michael Lake blithly suggested ...
What about using the colour package and put in some white letters
between the left and right text ? Yucky but it should work.
The above does not work either. latex2rtf does not recognise the color
command. I also tried butting it into a table but tables that span the
page width are not recognised either - just normal tables.
I tried a picture env as that can place text arbitarily but then my rtf
viewer 'ted' seg faulted.
Only option I think is to not have them on the same level but just use
/raggedleft My address \raggedright
Terry Collins wrote:
I have recently found out that my To and From details/address in
correspondence are not being converted into RTF when I used latex2rtf.
I was using /parbox[]{} /hfill /parbox[]{} and latex2rtf just
completely ignores /parbox. No error, zilch. So it escaped my attention
until now.
I'm looking for suggestions for alternative ways of providing To From
on opposite sides of the page at the same level.
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Re: FW: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Yes, it used to be the case that they only supported the old MS JVM, but they now also support OS X where internet banking works on Safari (the Apple browser based on KDE's (Linux) Konqueror's KHTML engine, ironic isn't it?). Marek Wawrzyczny On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:30, Phill wrote: I found a long time ago that NAB works ok (I haven't checked recently as I do have to use window$ as my working environment). They use jsp pages so that should be platform independent. I have also put the question to St George and have found them to be very helpful (NOT!). It (though I am not sure) could be that that they have based there system on the old windows VW like the ATO has with their eBAS system which (surprise, surpise) is not compatible with anything else but windows Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Wawrzyczny Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux Hi all, I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking support in Australia. I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot use it with Linux. Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I got the typical we don't support it response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating system, it will fail to attract many users. In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will not hesitate giving them the flick. Cheers, Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] What QT dev package do I need for make xconfig ?
Hi all In compiling kernels I have gconfig OK but its not very good. I wanted to see what the xconfig is like but I need some QT stuff. kernel-source-2.6.8$ make xconfig * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR * environment variable is set to the correct location. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck] Error 1 make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 Of the ones below what do I actually need. There seems a few qt dev packages. I dont want to put on unnecessary packages onto my laptop. kernel-source-2.6.8$ apt-cache search qt | grep dev libqt-dev - Qt GUI development files libqt-mt-dev - Qt GUI development files (Threaded version) libqte-mt3-dev - Qt/Embedded GUI (Threaded Version) development files libqwt-dev - Qt widgets library for technical applications (development) libqt3-dev - Qt development files libqt3-mt-dev - Qt development files (Threaded) Running PPC / Debian testing. Mike -- Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What QT dev package do I need for make xconfig ?
Seems like you're running Gnome. I have KDE installed on my system which is based on Qt (version 3). Both libqt and libqt-mt have been automatically installed. Of course they're not development libraries. In your case I'd try installing both libqt3-dev and libqt3-mt-dev, I'd imagine they refer to version 3 of Qt. However, I have used xconfig and it's ok but not that great either. There is always menuconfig. I hope this helps. Cheers, Marek Wawrzyczny On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:21, Michael Lake wrote: Hi all In compiling kernels I have gconfig OK but its not very good. I wanted to see what the xconfig is like but I need some QT stuff. kernel-source-2.6.8$ make xconfig * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR * environment variable is set to the correct location. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck] Error 1 make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 Of the ones below what do I actually need. There seems a few qt dev packages. I dont want to put on unnecessary packages onto my laptop. kernel-source-2.6.8$ apt-cache search qt | grep dev libqt-dev - Qt GUI development files libqt-mt-dev - Qt GUI development files (Threaded version) libqte-mt3-dev - Qt/Embedded GUI (Threaded Version) development files libqwt-dev - Qt widgets library for technical applications (development) libqt3-dev - Qt development files libqt3-mt-dev - Qt development files (Threaded) Running PPC / Debian testing. Mike -- Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Suggestions for a soundcard, please.
My laptop (IBM Thinkpad 600e/ Fedora core 2) cannot, despite repeated attempts by people with more---alright, *much* more---Linux knowledge than me, activate the soundcard. So I'll have to relegate it to the Project When I Have The Time basket. I'd like to use audacity to tailor some talk and music CDs. The laptop has a tichy plug for some headphones. Presumably I'll have to buy something that either (a) fits the pcmcia slot or something external. Has anyone any experience/suggestions as to what might fit the situation, please? Regards, Bill. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What QT dev package do I need for make xconfig ?
Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: Seems like you're running Gnome. I have KDE installed on my system which is based on Qt (version 3). Both libqt and libqt-mt have been automatically installed. Of course they're not development libraries. In your case I'd try installing both libqt3-dev and libqt3-mt-dev, I'd imagine they refer to version 3 of Qt. However, I have used xconfig and it's ok but not that great either. There is always menuconfig. Actually not running Gnome, just Enlightenment. I have just the libs required for gconfig. gconfig has some bugs. Some pick boxes show as selectable but you cant select them. That why I want to see xconfig. Yeah I used to use menuconfig but its longwinded to use. -- Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What QT dev package do I need for make xconfig ?
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:00, Michael Lake wrote: Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: Seems like you're running Gnome. I have KDE installed on my system which is based on Qt (version 3). Both libqt and libqt-mt have been automatically installed. Of course they're not development libraries. In your case I'd try installing both libqt3-dev and libqt3-mt-dev, I'd imagine they refer to version 3 of Qt. However, I have used xconfig and it's ok but not that great either. There is always menuconfig. Actually not running Gnome, just Enlightenment. I have just the libs required for gconfig. gconfig has some bugs. Some pick boxes show as selectable but you cant select them. That why I want to see xconfig. Yeah I used to use menuconfig but its longwinded to use. -- Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. Just fired up gconfig... it looks very similar like xconfig. Same menu, menu bar, same tree structure. xconfig also has its share of little features, I wouldn't anticipate a trouble free transition. For example sometimes items described as module compilable are presented as radio buttons or checkboxes. I have also found trees that go nowhere. But it is nonetheless much faster to use than menuconfig. Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What QT dev package do I need for make xconfig ?
Michael Lake wrote: In compiling kernels I have gconfig OK but its not very good. I wanted to see what the xconfig is like but I need some QT stuff. Okies I risked all and I have put on libqt3-mt-dev Now I get this error: kernel-source-2.6.8$ make xconfig HOSTCXX scripts/kconfig/qconf.o /bin/sh: line 1: g++: command not found make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/qconf.o] Error 127 make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 I presume this is a Gnu c++ compiler. I have cpp on there already. an apt-cache search for g++ shows far too many packages. What package might xconfig be needing ??? Mike -- Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What QT dev package do I need for make xconfig ?
quote who=Michael Lake I presume this is a Gnu c++ compiler. I have cpp on there already. cpp is the C preprocessor, g++ is the gnu c++ compiler. an apt-cache search for g++ shows far too many packages. What package might xconfig be needing ??? g++ :-) - Jeff -- Ubuntu in Mataró, Spain: December 5th-18th http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ ...and did you know that Twisties have real cheese in them? - Dave I didn't even think they had real twists in them! - Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What QT dev package do I need for make xconfig ?
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Michael Lake I presume this is a Gnu c++ compiler. I have cpp on there already. an apt-cache search for g++ shows far too many packages. What package might xconfig be needing ??? cpp is the C preprocessor, g++ is the gnu c++ compiler. g++ :-) Indeed, yes. I just did an apt-cache searc and I got hundreds of things. An apt-cache show g++ just shows that one package. Thanks, it's now installed and xconfig works. As Marek said it looks pretty similar to gconfig. I'll see if it has less bugs. Thanks all Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
