[RCSE] What the heck???

[Dan Borer]

http://www.thelopezfamilyonline.com/play.php?first=Gordy&last=Stahl

[RCSE] Several DLG questions

[Dan Ashenfelter]

Gentlemen:

Before flying season fades into the sunset, I would like to build a DLG.  At 
this point in my life I have more time than money, so I am looking at a 
built-up entry level kit rather than spending $300+ for an ARF or a 
high-performance kit.

I have been researching quite a bit over the last several days, and the 
conventional built-up kit selection is rather sparse. Right now, the most 
likely candidates are the QF2 from Mountain Models and the Gambler AF from 
Wright Brothers RC.  I have also considered the relatively low cost ARF Apache 
from SoaringUSA.com

As I researched built-up DLG's it seemed that most of them were 50" span or 
less rather than the usual 1.5m span that dominates the higher end models. Is 
this for structural integrity or mostly for personal convenience/choice? As a 
novice DLG flyer should I look toward shorter span models or stick with the 
1.5m ships?

I am also curious to understand why the vertical and horizontal tail surfaces 
are separated on most DLG's. Aerodynamically I know that fewer intersections 
helps with drag, but are there other reasons for doing so?

I have been flying r/c for 36+ years so I am not a novice to model flight but 
DLG is a whole new world for me.

If anyone on the exchange has experience with the models named above (or 
similar kits) or can offer a novice DLG pilot some practical advise on span 
choice, Rudder/Elevator vs Rudder/Aileron/Elevator, polyhedral vs dihedral 
models or any other area that might prove helpful, I would be very grateful.


Thanks

Dan Ashenfelter
Fort Dodge, Iowa

Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

[DAN FINK]

And you are going to handle line breaks on the winches how?  There isn't a line 
used that can't be busted on a full-go-for-it-screw-the-abuse-of-winch launch.  
Been seeing it for nearly 30 years and doing for nearly as long.

Dan Fink 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Allen<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: soaring@airage.com<mailto:soaring@airage.com> 
  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:21 PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Contest ideaTime on tow penalty for TD?


  After watching the World F3J  I had an idea for a contest...

  Incorporate the time penalty on tow that they have in F3J but in a TD format.

  You would have a timer at each winch who would time your launch and write 
that time down on your card...  For example if it were a 10 min task and you 
towed for 6 sec the best time you could get would be a 9:54 even though you 
flew a perfect 10... Or even better... Double the time on tow penalty, so if it 
was a 6 sec tow the best time you could get would be 9:48. Seems to me it would 
throw more strategy and fun into a normal TD contest

  Suggestions ? Comments?

  Craig

[RCSE] NIB Sapphire Kit For Sale

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

I have a NIB Whyte Wings Sapphire kit for sale. It looks to be complete and 
unbuilt except for the fuselage being primed. Wing span is 118", SD7037 
airfoil, obeechi sheeted foam wing.

Best offer, plus shipping. Please reply privately.

Thanks for your time.

Dan
www.tdwings.com 

[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11338

[Dan Tandberg]

PING!!!

Dan Tandberg, M.D.
Professor Emeritus
Department of Emergency Medicine
UNM School of Medicine
Ambulatory Care Center 4-West
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
===contact numbers===
Internet mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HomePage: http://www.nmia.com/~tandberg
Department: 1-505-272-5062
BMSB-B65H: 1-505-272-8600
Fax 1-505-272-6503
>>> Soaring  06/24/08 4:03 PM >>>
SoaringTue, 24 Jun 2008Volume 1 : Number 11338

In this issue:

    Looking for Dr. Dan, can you ping me back


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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:43:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Flying High <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: exchange 
Subject: Looking for Dr. Dan, can you ping me back
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dan, can you ping me back?
Thanks in advance,
Edgar
"The Soaring Junkie"



  

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[RCSE] AUGUST SC2 Contest Announcement

[Dan Borer]

The August 24, 2008 SC2 contest, announcement can be found on the SC2 website-- 
www.sc-2.org .

Dan

[RCSE] July SC-2 Contest

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

The March 2008 SC-2 contest that was rained out at Fish Canyon Field has been 
rescheduled for July 20, 2008. Frank Corsaro will be the CD and the 
announcement can be downloaded from the SC-2 website at www.sc-2.org .

Dan

[RCSE] SC-2 Scores

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

Scores for today's SC2 contest at SWSA's Fish Canyon can be found at the link 
on the SC-2 website http://www.sc-2.org/web/ .

Dan

Re: [RCSE] Remember Slope Soaring News?

[DAN FINK]

Thankyou so much for tracking this down!!  Brings back some killer memories 
from 20 years ago!!  Such a great mag that never got the notice it deserved.  

Again thanks.

Danb Fink
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill & Bunny Kuhlman 
  To: soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:50 PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Remember Slope Soaring News?


   
  Thanks to the graciousness of Charlie Morey, we've been given the 
  opportunity to create a PDF archive of Slope Soaring News.

  For those not familiar with Slope Soaring News, SSN was Charlie's 
  brainchild which enjoyed a run of twenty issues in the late 1980s. 
  The first issue was published in September of 1988, and the last 
  issue was dated June/July 1990. During nearly two years of 
  publication, SSN enjoyed quite a following. Manufacturers, flying 
  sites, aerobatic skills, personalities, and everything else related 
  to slope soaring was covered. Particular issues of SSN are sometimes 
  mentioned within the RCGroups web site, the RC Soaring Exchange 
  e-mail list, and other venues, but very few people are aware of SSN's 
  existence, and tracking down specific articles is nearly impossible.

  Because of this lack of availability, we contacted Charlie and have 
  received permission to create a PDF archive of all twenty issues of 
  Slope Soaring News to be included on the RC Soaring Digest web site.

  Volume 1 Number 1 is now available for downloading from the Slope 
  Soaring News page on the RC Soaring Digest web site 
  
>.
 This PDF is just 
  over 5MB, and we anticipate the other issues will be approximately 
  the same size.

  We're hoping to place additional issues into the archive on a regular 
  basis. Availability will be announced on this forum.


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[RCSE] May SC2 Contest

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

The May 2008 SC2 contest will be held at SWSA's Fish Canyon Field on Sunday, 
May 18, 2008. A link to the contest announcement can be found at www.sc-2.org .

Hope to see you there.

Dan

[RCSE] Need Composite Wings?

[Dan Borer]

Check out www.tdwings.com if you need composite wings for an older fuselage or 
your new 'secret project'.

Thanks for your time.

Dan

[RCSE] Supras For Sale

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

I have a buddy that has two new and unbuilt Supras for sale. Both are white 
with blue trim and one has red bottoms. These are Supra #253 and Supra #336. 
Either or both can be yours for the best reasonable offer. Reply to this email 
or call me at (909)367-6179 for more info.

Thanks for your time.

Dan

[RCSE] Un-built Sapphire For Sale

[Dan Borer]

Anyone looking for a brand new Sapphire? I have an un-built Sapphire fuselage 
along with a red set of Whyte Wings tail feathers that I'd like to find a new 
home for. Included with the fuselage will be a set of composite wings, custom 
bagged to your specs. The wings can be either a 123" span triple taper similar 
to the original Sapphire or a 126" quad taper, similar to an Addiction, in the 
airfoil of your choice, cut on a CNC foam cutter. The top of wing can be 
painted in your choice of color in the bag. Delivery will be in about two weeks 
after I get your specs for the wing. I can provide pictures of some of my work 
if requested.

Here's your chance to get a brand new, built to order composite plane. Price is 
$500 plus shipping.

Please contact me off the list if you are interested. 

Thanks for your time.

Dan

[RCSE] 72 Mhz Stuff For Sale

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

I am migrating over to 2.4 Ghz with all my planes, so I have some 72 Mhz stuff 
that I no longer need. All of it is for Futatba, that is negative shift. Here 
is what I have available:

Futaba receivers:
2--FP-R148DF (high band), one is only a few months old
1--FP-R127DF (low band) case cracked

Hitec receivers:
2--SuperSlim 8
3--Electron 6
2--Micro 555

Cirrus receiver:
1--MRX-6 on Ch. 54, single conversion park flyer

Futaba TX Modules, fit Super 7, Super 8 and 9C radios:
1--TP-FSM Sythesized module, select Ch 11 thru 60
1--FP-TP-FM on Ch 19
1--FP-TP-FM on Ch 24
1--FP-TP-FM on Ch 54

Futaba crystals:
1--Ch 24
1--Ch 54

Hitec crystals:
1--Ch 18
1--Ch 20
1--Ch 24
1--Ch 25
1--Ch 28
1--Ch 30
2--Ch 36
2--Ch 38
1--Ch 47
1--Ch 50
9--Ch 54
1--Ch 58
1--Ch 59
1--Ch 60

Let me know if you need any, or all, of this and we'll see what we can work out.

Thanks for your time.

Dan

[RCSE] Tree Stories

[Dan Ashenfelter]

It's good to know that others have felt as foolish as I, when several years 
ago I parked my brother's Electrasoar in the top of a very large tree. This 
airplane had a pretty flat glide as long as the speed was maintained.

Needless to say, I was making a long approach and thought myself well past 
the tree---WRONG!

To complicate matters the tree stood directly over a pen in which stood a 
rather nervous Hereford bull.

Every time the radio glitched and the electric motor burped the bull got 
even more nervous. The bull's owner was not thrilled and I couldn't really 
blame her. After a number of attempts with a large and quite heavy steel nut 
tied to a length of line we finally managed to loop it over a branch. The 
plane eventually dropped out of the tree and amazingly did not sustain heavy 
damage.

It's a helpless feeling trying to rescue someone else's plane from a tree 
while a ton of nervous beef is watching.

Dan



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Re: [RCSE] Need Help!

[Dan]

Naw - this is one I bought from Gordy at a garage sale. He sold me the whole 
lash-up for $500. Did I get a good deal? He even threw-in some Monocoat & balsa 
to fix the holes in the wing and the busted fuse. Funny, when I tried to repair 
the fuse, it had beach sand in it (?)
 
DW

- Original Message 
From: Tom Copp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; soaring@airage.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:13:10 PM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Need Help!


Is this a 2.4ghz F3B Skeeter with RDS in a Man on Man social event issue flying 
in Grey cup??
 
Tom 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:57 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Need Help!
 
How do you safely make a downwind turn and land a Skeeter with no skeg?
 
DW
 



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[RCSE] Need Help!

[Dan]

How do you safely make a downwind turn and land a Skeeter with no skeg?
 
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[RCSE] Contest dates?

[DAN FINK]

She Who Must Be Obeyed has asked what the contest schedule is this year.  So I 
need the following dates:

 Fresno 2 day
 Bent-wing in Visalia
 Reno 2 day
 Sacramento 2 day
 Fall fest in Visalia

Thanks guys,  need them before she changes her mind!!

Dan Fink

Re: [RCSE] Brain Fart or Challenge?

[Dan]

Only downwind  

Dan


- Original Message 
From: Rick Van Clief <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 2:58:53 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Brain Fart or Challenge?


Can you discuss launch a Supra?
 
RVC
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Soaring@airage.com 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Brain Fart or Challenge?


Wow Jack ,
 
You are really on to it with this shortening lines thing !  I sat around for 
quite a few minutes before I thought of something even dumber ...but I managed! 
:-)
 
I'm thinking with us getting older and the cost of fuel to lug winches around, 
and if its really about pilot skill and thermal reading/working...lets just 
hand toss the damn things and call for 20min tasks.


  

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[RCSE] Airlines Impose New Restrictions on Batteries

[Dan]

http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html


  

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Re: [RCSE] Still Looking for My Girlfriend Named "SHARON" by HKM

[Dan]

http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Sharon_Stone%20-%201%20-%20Basic_Instinct_2.jpg


- Original Message 
From: michael morjoseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:08:43 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Still Looking for My Girlfriend Named "SHARON" by HKM


Still Looking for My Girlfriend Named "SHARON" by HKM
She is 3.7 Meters and Pretty Slim Fuselage
if you Have a Nice Sharon RTF...
Please email me
I live in So Cal...
I can ship you a Sport Tube for Shipping 
ill Borrow the Soaring Junkies he don't know it Yet!!
Mike.M
Team SWSA
714 356 3066
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Re: [RCSE] "So, having read the 2.4 Articles in this Month's RCSD, What's your 2.4 opinion?

[Dan]

No time to read, I'm working on my LSF 1 - YOU????

Dan

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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Soaring@airage.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:50:42 AM
Subject: [RCSE] "So, having read the 2.4 Articles in this Month's RCSD, What's 
your 2.4 opinion?


Okay this thread is about the articles and their content by Sherman Knight in 
this issue of RCSD.
 
 
After  you have read the articles written by Sherman Knight, what is your 
opinion/ experience with 2.4?

We'd all like to hear your thoughts on the subject.  AFTER having read the 
articles.
 
 http://www.rcsoaringdigest.com/highlights.html 
 
After having read the articles, what are your comments on them and what has 
been written in the articles.
 
In case I wasn't specific enough, not your general well informed 
opinions/thoughts/ideas, suggestions on 2.4 but your comments on the content of 
the ARTICLES in this month's RCSD by Sherman Knight. 

(there will be a test:-)
Gordy
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[RCSE] Re: Who is building a Genie this offseason? I am!!!

[Dan Ahearn]

Starting my Big Genie this weekend. I've had the cores on the shelf for
too long.

Going with the fiberglass fuse from Pacific Sailplanes

Dan in Dallas...

Jay Hunter Wrote: 
> Gang,
> 
> Harley has convinced me to build a Genie or two... I am going with the
> EZ-LTS for my first plane.  I may take a couple of pictures, but
> documenting
> the build will be secondary to building the plane (in the past
> documenting
> has been primary and the plane would often times get lost in the
> shuffle).
> 
> But it would be good to see who else is going to build a Genie, let us
> know
> which version.
> 
> That Smooth Genie Pro's aesthetics are dynamite, and I would like to
> see how
> others do their builds.
> 
> Jay


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[RCSE] OT - Loop

[Dan]

You have to make sure you've tied everything down before you perform a loop.     http://home.earthlink.net/~2007_street_glide/loop.wmv 

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Fwd: [RCSE] OT - F-117 Crash (RC)

[Dan]

  Oooops F-117, not F-177  A canopy loss creates an unstable aircraft. A $30K loss. Click here.     Dan         
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[RCSE] OT - F-177 Crash (RC)

[Dan]

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Re: [RCSE] Spektrum Range Test *********

[Dan Ahearn]

I've flown a Easystar to the 1500 ft (RAM varified) and at the limit of my visibility down range (1/4 mile estimate)No glitches On 10/10/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Earlier today I was flying my Electric Eclipse.  I use brushless motor 
on my Eclipse, and have a Spektrum radio.  
 
I think I was getting glitched when I took it up quite high (I am 
guessing about 500 feet altitude).  Have any RCSE members experienced 
glitching also with the Spektrum radio system?
 
Cheers ... Tom
 

[RCSE] Airtronics Vision Manual

[Dan]

OK, OK, I know – it’s older technology but I’m trying to make-due with what I have as I don’t fly as often as I’d like. Does anyone have a Vision manual that’s collecting dust somewhere? PDF version?      I disabled (0%); flap-following-ailerons today and it screwed-up my launch mode! Time to read the manual again.     Thanks….Dan 
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[RCSE] Vision Template

[Dan]

I'm looking for an Excel spreadsheet/template for the Vision. If you have one, I'd appreceiate receiving it. E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Thanks...Dan 
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Re: [RCSE] OT: Can anything be done with "frosted" headlight covers?

[Dan]

A framing hammer might do the trick!     DanStan Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  My headlights on 98 Audi A6 are almost completely frosted. Any help out there?ThanksStanRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format 
	
	
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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dan]

"Zb. Michalczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have see it to believe it. http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/id19.htmlNo more guessing for years to come For $350, it better come with someone to operate it :~)     Dan 

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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dan]

So - I do you REALLY feel?     DanTodd Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice regarding BATTERIESAMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.Past experiences were nominal like "wrong items shipped" only to have meship back to wait and wait to finally get what I originallyordered.dealing with RUDE people on their phone..receiving a coupleRX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level AFTER a 24 hour chargewith my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround over the phone about NOTPROPERLY CHARGING, etc. Like a Dumb-dumb I keep loyal and try to give themthe benefit of the doubt.Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE painful surgeries on myFEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or
 anything at all at that.Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and batteries for upcomingprojects once I am back on my feet. Well a THIRD operation was necessary,unfortunately.and am now getting projects completed. I cycled a 2100 mahpack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year ago and have not touchedIT or the other products like Volz servo's and another RX pack from a localhobby store, and it cranked out a wopping 510mah after a 24 hour tricklecharge. I then re-cycled it for another 24 hours and it really jumped BIGTIME to 710mah!!! Its a 2100 mah packThe other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled up "close" to where itshould be and has been working quite well. I asked a friend regarding thismatter and He felt one of the cells went bad. I phoned BATTERIES AMERICA tohave someone tell me "I am a big boy and I NEED to accept "REALITY", inthat, its been over a year and thats that." I told
 them I understand , BUT,the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER. They claimed that I am notbeing realistic, as I agreed it has been a year BUT I am honest and haveNEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER. I re-coiled and stated back atthem "then your telling me that NONE of your packs haven't sat on theshelves for a year...TWO...or more?? How am I to know they didn't shipme a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting dust on their shelves fora year or two or three He said "THAT is immaterial"...I asked how? Iasked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs are LESS than a year oldand all cells used to put the packs together? He bobbled about only tosay how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to my point and matter andHe can't state they ONLY have batteries put together in less than 12 months.What a joke of a company...I have had other problemss and have read some ofyour guys' NIGHTMARE dealings
 with these people. I am the one to blame as ishould not have done any business with these people after the humiliatingconversations and lack of prodcing a product accurate with its descriptionand expected performance. For a measely 20-30 bux they lost a LOYAL andHONEST customer.BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny Berlin fired up GREAT andthe other battery I purchased that sat around until I recovered from mypainful nightmare cycled up and is working very well. I just don't get it.How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE business practices they have. Irecently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that stripped out and theyreplaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked. How can a 2100 mah batterythat was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after sitting in my drawerawaiting my recovery? I wonder how much people like this TIP aWAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow straight-up LAME and CHEAP!
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Re: [RCSE] LSF discussion - some thoughts

[Dan Borer]

Why on earth would anyone be satisfied to be an LSF Sportsman Level V when 
you could be a 'real' LSF Level V with just a little more dedication and 
perseverance?


I found this segment of the hobby about eight years ago. I joined my local 
club and I learned that they enjoyed distant contests and was thrilled when 
I was invited along. I saw the fun had at these events and bought myself an 
older camping trailer so I could immerse myself in the activities afforded 
at these gatherings. I signed up with the LSF and began that journey. Being 
around the 'big boys' forces you to learn all the aspects of soaring that 
make you a better pilot. When the goal and return tasks became part of the 
path, an old BMW convertible was purchased. Many of my flying buddies have 
had the pleasure of strapping into the back seat while I speed down the 
course. These purchases to allow me to enjoy this hobby cost less than many 
guys spend on a couple of planes.


The discussion at the field today concerned the threads here and at RC 
Groups. The consensus is that if you want to achieve LSF Level V you'd 
better be willing to do what it takes. No one wants to get the 'lite' Level 
V voucher. One analogy was that if you want to be a champion bass fisherman, 
you'd better have a boat, preferably a fast one.


Dan


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Deck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "RCSE" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:06 PM
Subject: [RCSE] LSF discussion - some thoughts


OK, I've read nearly all the comments on this topic in both forums and I'm 
ready to toss my two cents worth in the pot.
If I were king, here's what I'd do to get my "royal advisors" started 
right after I explained the "KISS" principle.
   - Anyone wanting to become an LSF "Sportsman" MUST successfully 
complete the current requirements for Level I & II(Contest reqm't 
included).  Why? First, these two levels do a lot toward producing a 
competent sailplane pilot.  The competition requirement of Level II isn't 
that stiff and at least exposes the participant to competition.  Second, 
by making Level II mandatory, a pool of Sportsman pilots becomes available 
who at least understand what the LSF program is all about and can 
appropriately serve as witnesses for those in pursuit of higher levels.
- After completing Level II, the requirements for further Sportsman Levels 
should include the current non-competitive tasks in Levels II - V.  To 
keep things simple (a former LSF Secretary speaks here), perhaps repeats 
of these tasks might be required of the Sportsman.  My personal opinion is 
the XC task of Level III should also be required as it currently stands as 
it, too, gives the pilot good introductory exposure to XC.
- For Sportsman Levels IV & V, perhaps a substitute for the XC tasks might 
be available but, for Sportsman Level V, both the 2 hour thermal and 
traditional 8 hour slope flight should remain.  (Note that for some of the 
current Level V's - that's the only slope flying they've done.)  Also, 
Sportsman Level V's should keep the 2 Level II witnesses  requirement as 
well as that requirement helps promote the hobby's growth by its "if you 
can't find 'em, grow 'em" strategy.


Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
   Jim Deck
An "afterward" - for the LSF Leadership, this discussion couldn't have 
come at a worse time.  The LSF sponsored Masters and the AMA Planning 
Meeting for the 2007 NATS re on the very near horizon.  Remember that they 
are unpaid volunteers and cut them lots of slack while patiently waiting 
for their response.


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[RCSE] Fw: SWSA Bent Wing BBQ

[Dan Borer]

Here is a reminder for the SWSA Bent Wing BBQ on Sept. 17. Let me know if 
you plan to attend so we can get the food ordered.


Hope to see you there.

Dan

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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: SWSA Bent Wing BBQ



Hi All--

Summer is beginning to wind down and SWSA hasn't had their annual Bent 
Wing BBQ yet so here is some info to help you plan an enjoyable day of 
flying at Fish Canyon, along with some great barbequed food from Canyon 
City Barbeque in Azusa. This contest is open to all RES sailplanes and 
rudder/elevator electrics. Yes, electrics can be flown too as long as they 
don't have flaps or ailerons. They'll fly the same tasks and landings. 
Rules will be covered at the pilot's meeting.


This event will be five rounds consisting of 3, 5, 7, 5 and 3 minutes. 
Lunch will be served near the end of the 7 minute round and we'll keep the 
event moving while lunch is served. Registration will open at 9:00 AM with 
the pilot's meeting at 10:00 AM and the first round to open immediately 
after the meeting. Entry is $10.00 per pilot, including lunch. Additional 
lunches may be purchased for $7.00 each.


The event notice can be found at 
http://silent-wings.org/popoff/BentWingBBQ.htm .


If you plan to attend please send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can 
get an idea of how much food to order. More info and directions can be 
found at the SWSA website at www.silent-wings.org .


We hope to see you for a fun filled day of flying.

Dan





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[RCSE] Arizona Soaring Clubs

[Dan]

Can someone advise if there are any soaring clubs in the Sedona/Cottonwood area?     Dan 
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RE: [RCSE] how high really--Sorta

[Dan Ashenfelter]

On a somewhat related note, I know some individuals have used a series of 
variying width white stripes on the lower surface of the wing as a means of 
estimating altitude. Obviously this method does not work for very high 
altitudes when the aircraft is at the very limits of one's vision.

For us mere mortals however, it might prove useful. Does anyone have a 
reference, guide or link to information how one might go about utilizing 
these stripes as an aid? Specifically I am looking for suggested widths and 
placement of the stripes.

Thanks very much.

Dan 



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[RCSE] Pike WIng Tip

[Dan Borer]

I'm looking for a left wing tip panel for a Pike Superior. I would prefer 
white top and blue bottom, but anything in good shape will do. Please reply 
privately with details of what you have to offer.


Thanks.

Dan 



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Re: [RCSE] how high really

[Dan]

This will be tough to do as Superman has long passed away     Dan  Robert Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I'm now a believer. I believe that people believe what they are telling us. But these distances certainly far exceed my weak vision.I'm not an expert at anything much less how far one can see an object. But if anyone out there can give us some research based information on far a human can discern an object like a 3m sailplane I'd sure like to hear it.Robert Samuels ... St. Louis_Get the new Windows Live
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[RCSE] SWSA Bent Wing BBQ

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

Summer is beginning to wind down and SWSA hasn't had their annual Bent Wing 
BBQ yet so here is some info to help you plan an enjoyable day of flying at 
Fish Canyon, along with some great barbequed food from Canyon City Barbeque 
in Azusa. This contest is open to all RES sailplanes and rudder/elevator 
electrics. Yes, electrics can be flown too as long as they don't have flaps 
or ailerons. They'll fly the same tasks and landings. Rules will be covered 
at the pilot's meeting.


This event will be five rounds consisting of 3, 5, 7, 5 and 3 minutes. Lunch 
will be served near the end of the 7 minute round and we'll keep the event 
moving while lunch is served. Registration will open at 9:00 AM with the 
pilot's meeting at 10:00 AM and the first round to open immediately after 
the meeting. Entry is $10.00 per pilot, including lunch. Additional lunches 
may be purchased for $7.00 each.


The event notice can be found at 
http://silent-wings.org/popoff/BentWingBBQ.htm .


If you plan to attend please send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can 
get an idea of how much food to order. More info and directions can be found 
at the SWSA website at www.silent-wings.org .


We hope to see you for a fun filled day of flying.

Dan 



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Re: [RCSE] MM Glidertech??????

[Dan]

Last time I saw him was in the Eastern Sierra's trying to catch a bigger trout than mine :~)     DanEd Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Does anyone know if Merrill is still in business.  His phone is not answered and his answering machine is turned off.  Ed 
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[RCSE] For Sale--RnR SB-XC--Price Reduced

[Dan Borer]

I have an RnR Products SB-XC cross country ship for sale for a friend.
Included are JR servos for all control surfaces, a 6 volt sealed lead acid
(SLA) battery with charger, and wooden carrying box. The plane is white with
brown trim on the tips and black bottoms. There is a cosmetic ding at the
inner part of one wing tip panel that has been reinforced internally with
carbon. This plane will be RTF with your receiver. Asking $800 with local
pickup in southern California. Can be shipped if necessary but may be
fairly expensive due to the 7' long box.

See more specs at http://www.rnrproducts.com/airframes/gliders/xbxc.htm .
Pictures will be available upon request.

Thanks for your time.

Dan 



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[RCSE] Wanted Escape wings

[Dan Neelands]

I’m looking for a set of Jaro Escape wings.  Any
condition will be considered.  I actually prefer a less expensive, slightly
beat up set.  I’ll also consider buying an entire plane if the price is
right.  

 

Please email me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Thanks,

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Re: [RCSE] F3J World Champs Update

[Dan]

I consider myself computer savy but, for the last few days I've been unable to open any of the photos from the links that have been posted about Joe's launching incident.      Has anyone else had this problem?     Dan - SCSA, Santa Clarita"James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Joe makes it famous, I made it infamous.At 09:38 AM 8/3/2006, tony estep wrote:  BTW, check out Joe's Iconhttp://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/dnldwatermark.php?fname=../../foto_albumy/foto_492.jpgThat looks to be the Barney color scheme made famous by Jim Bacus.  JimDowners Grove, ILMember of
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Re: [RCSE] F3J World Champs Update

[Dan]

I consider myself computer savy but, for the last few days I've been unable to open any of the photos from the links that have been posted about Joe's launching incident.      Has anyone else had this problem?     Dan - SCSA, Santa Clarita"James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Joe makes it famous, I made it infamous.At 09:38 AM 8/3/2006, tony estep wrote:  BTW, check out Joe's Iconhttp://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/dnldwatermark.php?fname=../../foto_albumy/foto_492.jpgThat looks to be the Barney color scheme made famous by Jim Bacus.  JimDowners Grove, ILMember of
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[RCSE] For Sale--Picolario Variometer

[Dan Borer]

I've got a Picolario variometer for sale. Included are the receiver with 
earphone and TEK nozzle for cross or t-tail. More info on the Picolario can 
be found at http://www.picolario-usa.com/ . Asking $375 plus shipping.


Thanks for your time.

Dan 



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[RCSE] For Sale--RnR SB-XC

[Dan Borer]

I have an RnR Products SB-XC cross country ship for sale for a friend. 
Included are JR servos for all control surfaces, a 6 volt sealed lead acid 
(SLA) battery with charger, and wooden carrying box. The plane is white with 
brown trim on the tips and black bottoms. There is a cosmetic ding at the 
inner part of one wing tip panel that has been reinforced internally with 
carbon. This plane will be RTF with your receiver. Asking $900 with local 
pickup in southern California. Can be shipped if necessary but will be 
fairly expensive due to the 7' long box.


See more specs at http://www.rnrproducts.com/airframes/gliders/xbxc.htm . 
Pictures will be available upon request.


Thanks for your time.

Dan 



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Re: [RCSE] wing tape

[Dan Ahearn]

Check with Don Richmond @ www.hilaunch.comOn 7/28/06, Lee Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Does anyone still make the heavy clear aileron tape like that came on the old Airtronics kits???
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Re: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question

[Dan Borer]

I use a 1/16" bit, followed by a drop of thin CA after the clevises and 
control rod have been installed. I do each clevis at the end of the control 
rod individually, let it cure, cycle the surface through its range of 
movement and then do the same to the opposite end. If using a threaded rod I 
will then put a drop of thin CA on the threads where they enter the clevis 
once I am satisfied with the setup. This all sounds too permanent but works 
well and still allows disassembly when necessary.


Dan

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Subject: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question



I want to minimize slop in my control surfaces.
What numbered drill bit, or bits, do I need for drilling out control horns 
and servo arms for Dubro type quick links?

Thanks,
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Re: [RCSE] "MidSouth Air to be Sooo Good that Tasks Are Going LONNNGG!"

[Dan Borer]

Hey Gordy--
 
Can I come fly your event? At our SC2 contest on Sunday if the sheriff's 
chopper comes within view we will be ordered to dive below 400'. If I don't do 
it fast enough then both the me and timer will get zeros for the round!
 
Dan

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  Subject: [RCSE] "MidSouth Air to be Sooo 
  Good that Tasks Are Going LONNNGG!"
  
  Looks like the air will be so sweet during the MidSouth that in order to 
  cull the luckies from the talented, task times are likely to be in the 30 to 
  40min ranges and landing points will be measured with a micrometer, 1 point 
  per 1/100 of an inch...no worries though because we have lazer measuring 
  devices like in tennis matches, so landings points will be reported 
  automatically.
   
  Also special devices will be taped to each plane that senses when the tow 
  hook is detached, telemetry will start special hand held countdown timers 
  supplied to each contestant.
  (timers will also be supplied lawn chairs and cool drinks).
   
  Pilots will have Hooters girls with big clear fans keeping them cool 
  while flying, sorry guys only two per pilot.  We tried to get 'mist 
  machines' to cool the entire field, but it caused the grass to grow so fast, 
  we'd have to cut it mid day...so that was out.
   
  The banquet will be to die for!  Fried Green Tomatoes, Frickled 
  Pickles, Ribs and Cat fish fingers.
   
  There is a wayyy outside chance that the banquet will be held on a Paddle 
  Wheel River Boat that would pick us all up right next to the fieldbut 
  don't hold your breath on that one. :-)
   
  For SURE, there will be a huge supply of old friends to fly with from all 
  over the country...that alone will be enough to make it the second most fun 
  contest this side of Visalia :-)
   
  So what are you bringing to fly?
  Supra? Giant? Perfect? Sharon? Insanity? Superior?
   
  Gordy

[RCSE] Poway Results

[Dan]

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[RCSE] JR 6102 TX

[Dan Borer]

Hi All--

A buddy of mine has a JR 6102 six channel radio and wants to set it up to 
work on an RES plane with two spoiler servos. I assume I can plug the rudder 
servo into the Aileron channel to get the right stick to be the primary 
control for the rudder. One spoiler would be plugged into the Throttle 
channel and the other spoiler could be plugged into any other unused channel 
and then mixed to the Throttle channel to get both spoilers to work off the 
spoiler (throttle) stick. Finally the elevator could be mixed to the 
throttle channel to provide elevator compensation when the spoilers are 
deployed.


Will this set up work or is there a better way?

Thanks for your help.

Dan 


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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a new toy, what do you guys have for sale!!!

[Dan]

If you post it one more time, maybe we'll get the message :~)Flying High <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  It's that time again and I have an itch to buy somethingdifferent. If anyone is considering selling anything R/Crelated, please let me know! Thanks...Edgar"The Soaring Junkie"__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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[RCSE] Graupner Winch Value

[Dan Borer]

What's a Graupner winch with turnaround pulley worth these days? This is the 
orange framed model and the only marking on it is Hochstartwinde 12V-100A.


Thanks for any info.

Dan 


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[RCSE] Two 2M planes For Sale

[Dan Borer]

The following are from the estate of a fellow club member:

Whyte Wings Ruby CGT 2M full house glider. RTF with six servos, battery and 
Airtronics RX. Small unrepaired crack on bottom of fuse under the wing. 
Weighs 44 ounces. Composite wings with bagged tails and a patriotic color 
scheme. $200 plus shipping from SoCal.


Saturn 2M full house. No RX or battery but has 6 servos. Note on plane lists 
weight at 48 ounces. Sheeted foam wing, fiberglass fuse with T-tail. $75 
plus shipping from SoCal.


Pictures of both planes upon request.

Thanks for your time.

Dan


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[RCSE] Charlie Tasto

[Dan Borer]

Hey Charlie--

Are you on the list? You left your AMA card down here at Fish Canyon and 
we'd like to get it back to you. If you know Charlie please provide his 
email address so we can make contact.


Thanks.

Dan 


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Re: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber

[Dan]

Try: http://www.cstsales.com/     DanVeronica Merryfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I need to get some CF cloth and tow. Here in Canada (Western BC), all the stockest are telling me that both the Canadian and US departments of defence are buying up everything hence they have no stock. However, the stories are inconsistant.     So, is it true?     Does anyone have a line of tow and cloth for mail order?     Thanks     Veronica         
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Re: [RCSE] Fresno Classic

[Dan Borer]

I agree that it was a fantastic contest. Very friendly atmosphere, a 
pleasant break from the rain and beautiful scenery.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Soaring Junkie also beat Daryl 
according to the final scores? With his RES plane? Way to go Edgar!


Dan

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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Fresno Classic



Daryl Perkins wrote:

What a Blast! Nice people, great weather, some tough
air, and some great flying by the winners (not me
btw - I HATE it when that happens!) ;-)

Congrats to:

Dave Zucker - First Place Unlimited - Dave was on
fire! I don't think I could have beaten him even if I
was practiced. He had his model (Icon - yeah I know...
shut up!) landing slowly, controllably, and like it
was on rails. Nice Job Dave!


 Ditto about the Fresno Contest. No matter how well I do it's always a
 great place to fly.
 To be fair, Daryl out FLEW everybody as usual and it came down to a
landing contest(And they say it's hard to land an Icon,oh yeah, that was 
me saying that)I finally found the setup that gets the floatiness out it 
on final. The thing just likes to go up all the time.

 It was nice to come home with a couple of D dollars this time.

 See you guys next year,

 David



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[RCSE] Paging Jack Womack

[Dan Ahearn]

Jack please ping me offline.Dan 

Re: [RCSE] Hand launch Gyro

[Dan Ahearn]

What are you flying? Most folks are not using gyros with modern DHLG design's.Maybe a preset and some techique adjustments?On 3/5/06, j j <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I am looking for a gyro for my hand launch, I am not a
competitive flier so I don't need the best.  I want amoderate priced gyro that will get my launchesreasonably on track.Suggestions please.jj__
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Re: [RCSE] "Orlando was warm and windy but no problem for a Giant like...'

[Dan]

I saw one in Ensenada - a little further south :~)     DanPaul Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  "he flys a Genital Lady"Genital Lady?I think I saw that in Tijuana once . . .  On 2/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you missed the "Last Chance to Beat Gordy on His Birthday" man on man contest today in Orlando ;-(  Slightly under 200 pilots attended.     Well we had a nice day of
 challenging air, I flew my Giant (third outing with it) and I think it showed its abilities to really range around and to work tough tight blowing bubbles. I am still learning a lot about it.     I couldn't seem to get my eye on the spot so hung in all day with 25's (landings were 25, 50,75 and 100 point measured spot) which sounds pretty bad but the radius of the spot to 25 was 10mm...so you really had to be on. :-)  The Pike Giant is really making life tough for me! I love the Superior wing but the speed of the Giant wing and its ability to shoot wayyy out is kind of sexy :-) I'm not using a skeg, just in case I decide to make my bide for the F3J worlds :)     Rick Kuburis with a home field advantage ended up victorious using a home brew secret weapon design, there was no way anyone was going to beat him today, he was a machine. He was so far in the zone that at one point he was putting Ketchup on a hot
 dog during his landing.     Rick Eckels used his own formula for scoring the man on man event, which has something do with sacrificing a chicken and generous use of power eraser.     We went thru the whole day without a broken line and I don't think we had a delay between groups of more than ...well just enough time to let the birds circling to get wayyy down wind :-)     Jim McC came up to join us and had hopes of getting even from our last meeting here, but a last round of really stinky air sent him back down south with dreams of next time.  Allan Parsons (yep the I Robot guy) really had his Fusion working on steroids, some of the best launches and reflex runs I have ever seen with a bagged plane...it really is one of the top contest ships...still.     I timed for one of the veterans during the last round, he flys a Genital Lady and I think he hadn't had a
 round over 1 1/2mins all day, I got him settled down and he went for a huge launch with a ping at the endhe was light on the pedal but really controlled his energy and I think it was the highest I had ever seen one of those balsa birds ever launch..and he even got a ping!  Hank is not 30years old :-)  He had been a full size DG owner for a lot of years, but his eyes and thumbs had had better days, but that last flight he managed energy and followed the river of air and had it spec'd without a turn.  At just over a minute left, we were talking about how great it was going to be to hit that 100 to cap off the flight...when a clubmate came shooting across with a NSP Edge, T boned the GL and shredded it.  Both planes were too far out to be able to judge depth and proximity so no foul on either partthe GL parts worked their way to Terra Firma and the day ended with a slight bummer and a great story for the BBQ restaurant afterward ;-) 
    Me, always a bridesmaid down here it seems. ;-)  Had her in the bag but got hammered with a line tangle and then a late launch and lousy thumbing :-)     Sure wish you could have been there too!  Gordy  orlando today louisivlle today
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Re: [RCSE] Servo slop

[Dan]

It's like owning a Ford - you buy a bigger hammer :~)     DanBill Swingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  A bit of wisdom from Joe Galletti in 1998:A quick way to improve slop between the servo output shaft and the bearing is to use a servo horn retaining screw that is a little larger than the standard screw. This expands the output shaft and takes away the slop.Bill SwingleJanesville, CA
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Re: [RCSE] "He still sees no need for Dial a channel, but I have -- for years"

[Dan Ahearn]

"...The other factor involved IS the dial a crash potential.  ALL of the 
current synth modules use the tiny dials, with tiny digits..."Not the Evo. interface via  the LCD screen. You have to power off to change.DJA

[RCSE] Pete Olsen, AMA 1534

[Dan Borer]

It is with great sadness that I report the loss of Pete Olsen, AMA 1534, 
President of The Silent Wings Soaring Association (SWSA) of Covina, CA on 
February 13, 2006. Pete succumbed to complications of a long illness and 
hospitalization.


Services for Pete will be held on Monday, February 20, 2006 at 11:00 AM at 
St. Stephens Lutheran Church, 2311 E. Chapman Avenue, Fullerton, CA.


An online guest book has been established by the Inland Valley Daily 
Bulletin at 
http://www.legacy.com/ivdailybulletin/Obituaries.asp?Page=Lifestory&PersonId=16749181 
for you to express your condolences to the family and express your memories 
of Pete.


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[RCSE] parcel from Gordy

[Dan Neelands]

Who’s expecting a parcel from Gordy?  Please contact me off list.
Thanks,
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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

[Dan Kitching]

Hi Phil,

Under the pressure tab, you can convert kg/cm2 to lb/ft2.
Since kg/cm2 is g/m2, multiply the result by 16, and you have oz/ft2

I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can post as well that does a couple 
of other things for electric fliers and wing loading.


  Dan


Phil Barnes wrote:

The question I meant to ask was how to use the little conversion 
program to do conversions that were not already on the menu. Someone 
was kind enough to respond off list so I'll repeat the information here;


Click on "options" at the top of the window, then click on 
"preferences". Then click on "custom". You type the conversion into 
that window and then when you click on "custom" on the regular menu 
you will see the custom conversions that you have typed in.


The conversions that you need for the question that Rich asked about are;

1 gram per decimeter squared = .327123 ounces per foot squared

1 decimeter squared = 15.50003 inches squared

I already knew how to do the conversions manually as evidenced by my 
earlier post reprinted below:


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL is listed with 81.7 dm squares and
36.7 grams/ dm square.
Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet .



81.7 square decimeters = 1266 square inches.

36.7 grams per square decimeter = 12.0 ounces per square foot.

Eventually I want to figure the wing loading at different all up 
weights .



1266 square inches = 8.79 square feet.

12 ounces per square foot multiplied by 8.79 square feet = 105 ounces.

The manufacturer must be assuming 105 ounces to get their listed wing
loading.

To check wing loadings for different weights you just need to divide your
weight in ounces by 8.79 square feet to get your wing loading in 
ounces per

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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

[Dan Kitching]

Hi Phil,

Under the pressure tab, you can convert kg/cm^2 to lb/ft^2.
Since kg/cm^2 is g/m^2, multiply the result by 16, and you have oz/ft^2

I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can post as well that does a couple 
of other things for electric fliers and wing loading.


   Dan


Phil Barnes wrote:

That's the same one that Dan Kitching recommended. Can anybody tell me 
how you use that to convert g/dm^2 to oz/ft^2? I guess you need to use 
the "custom" feature but clicking on "custom" gets a blank window with 
no instructions and no apparent way to type anything into the window.


Phil


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Re: [RCSE] convert this please

[Dan Kitching]

Hi Richard,

I've put a fantastic freeware application up on my website that can 
convert many different units of measurement. It's runtime, so you don't 
need to actually install it. You can download it at the following URL...


www.dankitching.com/convert.exe

   Dan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At soaringusa.com, the ThermicXL  is listed with 81.7 dm squares and 
36.7 grams/ dm square.


Can someone tell me what that would be in square feet . Eventually i 
want to figure the wing loading at different all up weights .


Thanks in advance, Richard


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Re: [RCSE] New Spread Spectrum Radios

[Dan Ahearn]

Should be fine on the slope. I flew my buddy's in a easystar to 1500' AGL (RAM2 varified) and about 1800' down range, no glitches no worries, solid as a rock. There is a great thread worth looking at on RC groups 
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452817In fact, I've had a chance to wiggle the sticks on a 6102 converted to the Spectrum, folks are running with it.On 1/25/06, 
Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:08:45AM -0600, Bob Johnson wrote:| As I see it, the biggest 'problem' with using one in a glider is that the| receiver has two antennae, each 3.75 inches in length that should be kept at
| right angles to one-another.Apparantly each antenna is for a completely seperate RX on a different1 MHz channel (but being spread spectrum, these channels can be sharedwith others), so if one gets a good signal and one doesn't, you're
still good.  So having them at right angles will give you a betterchance of picking up at least one signal for any given orientation,but even having them both at 180 degrees (i.e. straight) wouldn't beany worse than a 72 MHz RX with a perfectly straight antenna (which is
pretty common.)Bigger problems that I see are that the range is limited (though theyhaven't really said just how limited -- but from what I've heard it'ssomewhere between 1000 and 3000 feet) and that if you have a carbon
fiber fuselage, getting the antenna out of the fuse might bedifficult.  Note that the limited range might very well exasberate anysub-optimal antenna orientations.Also, being that it's 2.4 GHz, I'd strongly suggest against putting
any 2.4 GHz transmitters into your plane -- like any telemetry orvideo transmitter.  Even if the exact frequencies used differ, I'dstill expect it to desense the RX and reduce the range even more.I've never used one of the systems myself, but from what I've seen
they work fine.  The TX is a pretty basic computer radio, and there'sonly six channels to work with so using it with a full house gliderwill probably mean giving up some things, but I'll bet they're justthe thing at the slope with simpler planes.
They'd also be nice for situations where you have what looks like agreat slope or site, but it's only a mile away from an establishedclub and so you don't really dare flying there with traditionalequipment.
They need to hurry up and get a 8+ channel system with full range anda more featured transmitter (either that or modules for existingradios.)  It would be like a license to print money ...--Doug McLaren, 
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Re: [RCSE] NiCads & NiMH battery supplier

[Dan Kitching]

Hi Norm,

I've always had excellent service and pricing from Steve Hill at 
www.battlepack.com. You can buy loose cells or specify your pack 
configuration, and he's always been willing to spend time on the phone 
to address my questions.


   Dan


Norman E. Timbs, Jr. wrote:


Where do you recommend buying Nicads and NiMH cells and packs these days?

TIA,

Norm

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Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment

[Dan Kitching]

I said...   "/_*USPS*_/ is the only way to ship north"


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

UPS is not the only way to ship here, more importnatly UPS should be avoided at 
all costs! Their pre-brokering premium is the worst of the lot. 



Quoting Dan Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 


Phil,

USPS is the only way to ship north. The couriers all charge a brokerage 
fee. It's not a secret fee, they charge what they charge.


 Dan


Winch wrote:

   


Because bureaucratic costs and delays often makes it a losing proposition.
By the way UPS/Fedex/DHL are no better as they hit you with outrageous
"brokerage" fees.

Phil

-----Original Message-
From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 8, 2006 8:45 PM
To: RC Soaring Exchange
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment


And why is that?
Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way
bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it.

   Dan

George L Meyers wrote:



 


I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address
but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in
Alberta.  I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send
international mail.

This might not

  

   


seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I
have a
parcel come in.
Phil


 


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Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment

[Dan Kitching]

Phil,

USPS is the only way to ship north. The couriers all charge a brokerage 
fee. It's not a secret fee, they charge what they charge.


     Dan


Winch wrote:


Because bureaucratic costs and delays often makes it a losing proposition.
By the way UPS/Fedex/DHL are no better as they hit you with outrageous
"brokerage" fees.

Phil

-Original Message-
From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 8, 2006 8:45 PM
To: RC Soaring Exchange
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment


And why is that?
Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way
bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it.

Dan

George L Meyers wrote:

 


I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address
but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in
Alberta.  I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send
international mail.

This might not

   


seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I
have a
parcel come in.
Phil
 


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Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment

[Dan Kitching]

Oh yeah, all the rules. Address must me in caps, and contents must be 
listed on the way bill.
Once the package crosses the border, tracking no longer works day by 
day, but it's then only matter of a day or two. The tracking# will let 
you know that the package has been delivered.


Sorry I'm getting steamed about this, but it's infuriating to attempt to 
spend money at a retailer in the US only to be told they don't ship to 
Canada "because it's too problematic". It's pure laziness. Refusal to 
address the label in caps, and a lack of willingness to spend an extra 2 
minutes at the post office to fill out a way bill. Other than that, it's 
exactly the same. If you state the weight, dimensions, and contents 
accurately, there should never be any issues. When I see people publicly 
posting about how "problematic" it is to ship to Canada, it means to me 
that there are now 1 or 2 more people on this list that will take that 
to heart and be unwilling to ship north in the future.


I've been buying hobby stuff from retailers and private people the US 
for over 5 years and have never had a shipment go awry, not once.


  Dan


Ed Berris wrote:


Dan Mailing to Canada is not as easy as you suggest because the Canadian
customs or mail service seems to have a strong desire to screw with US
posted mail.  Some vendors in our hobby simply won't or don't want to ship
to Canada because of this.  Delays are not uncommon.  Tracing a package is
nearly impossible once it leaves the US.  Packages are returned for minute
infractions on Canadian rules.

When I ship to Canada I inform my customers that once it leaves my hands I
assume no responsibility for the safe arrival of the package.  If that is
not acceptable to a customer (and I can understand why it might not be) I
just won't take the chance.  I'd rather not have the business or an unhappy
customer.
Ed


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Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment


 


And why is that?
Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way
bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it.

Dan

George L Meyers wrote:

   


I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address
but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in
Alberta.  I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send
international mail.

This might not

 


seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I
have a
parcel come in.
Phil
   


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Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment

[Dan Kitching]

And why is that?
Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way 
bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it.


Dan

George L Meyers wrote:

I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address 
but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in 
Alberta.  I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send 
international mail.


This might not

seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I 
have a

parcel come in.
Phil



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Re: [RCSE] What is your favorite tool for building?

[Dan]

A sledge hammer - great for opening those stubborn bottles of CA  :~)     Dan  Tom Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Thought its time for a new thread since it is building seasonI'll start. My favorite tool for building/ working with wood is a Stanley 60 1/2 lowangle block plane. It gets more use than the sanding blocks, able to takeoff super thin shavings. I use it for shaping, trimming. Set it on edgeagainst a shooting block and you can square and true balsa, plywood, etc. Its designed to trim end grain for regular wood projects, but for modelingits small enough to cover a wider range of uses when working with the sizeof wood we use in building.What is your favorite tool??good lift,Tom  
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[RCSE] Soaring on New Year's Day, SoCal Style

[Dan Borer]

Here is a link to the PopOff newsletter, the official document of the Silent
Wings Soaring Association:
http://silent-wings.org/popoff/2005Scores/2005ScoresFS.htm .
Click on the image of the Sheriff's helicopter to be taken to a write up of 
the activities

at our new field located in Fish Canyon near Duarte, CA. Not much sun, no
snow and only a drop of rain but we still had a great time.

Dan

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Re: [RCSE] Jo Jo's Nats Video

[Dan Kitching]

Happy New Year Jim,

Yep, I'm currently getting 3.1kbps with a broadband connection. I've 
spent a LOT of time and bandwidth on JoJo's site, lot's of great stuff.


   Dan

James V. Bacus wrote:

I bet were all giving JoJo's server a nice workout, I was only an hour 
away from the download completing and seeing it but now up to 3 hours 
as more of you connect and load it up.  (that's with broadband!) heh 
heh heh   It will get here when it gets here.


He's gonna look at his server logs and be surprised!   8-)


Jim
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Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
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Re: [RCSE] Jo Jo's Nats Video

[Dan Kitching]

Here's a direct link...
http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/video/nats05.wmv
It's 61.9MB

Dan

Marc Gellart wrote:


Try this Jim, www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/index.htm

Go to December 25, and it is below his pics for the X-Mas day fun 
fly.  I tried to pull an immediate address and could not find one. 
You know you are there when you see Gordy, you are prominate in there 
at a spot.


Marc
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Marc Gellart wrote:


Try this Jim, www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/index.htm

Go to December 25, and it is below his pics for the X-Mas day fun fly.  I tried to pull an immediate address and could not find one.  


You know you are there when you see Gordy, you are prominate in there at a spot.

Marc
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Re: [RCSE] A good reason that 6 cells aren't necessary anymore

[Dan Kitching]

Hope you knocked on wood while writing that Bill:)

Fact is, lots of folks have killed servos when running higher voltage 
packs and lots of folks have used them for ages with no problems. Take 
your pick and go with it, but a voltage regulator to keep things at 6V 
is not a BAD idea, it may not be totally necessary but it's not hurting 
anything being there other than being another link in the chain.


Then again, modern (fast and strong) digital servos don't require the 
extra zip of 6 volts anyway. Years ago when all this started, the servos 
weren't anywhere near the performers that modern servos are, and they 
were all analog. Today's high capacity batteries also suffer very little 
voltage drop under a 4-6 servo load.


   Dan


Bill's Email wrote:




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Barry is a very intelligent guy so likely forgot to mention that he's 
got a voltage regulator between his 5 cells and the system to protect 
things.


A voltage regulator insures that your digital servos and RX don't get 
too much of a good thing, 




Every digital servo that I am aware of, and I run most of them from 
JR281's to 8611's and Futaba 9252's, CAN take 6 volts without a 
problem. Old wives tale.  7.2 volts is a different thing. But I love 
this myth about needing a regulator with 5-cell packs.


I have run 5-cell packs (Nicad & NiMH) in everything from D/HLG to 
molded TD to helis to 40% giant scale aerobatic planes for several 
years, ALL with digitals of various sizes, with not a single problem. 
Run a regulator if it makes you feel better, but it is totally 
unnecessary. And even in my big aerobatic planes I cannot tell the 
difference between flight #1 and #5 (when I charge).


The very worst thing that you "may" observe is a slight jitter when 
you first turn on. Lasts about 15 seconds as the surface charge goes 
away.


And to the point about stalling, etc. causing a need for a regulator. 
Sorry, the regulator does nothing there. A stalled servo pulls what a 
stalled servo pulls, irrespective of a regulator. Most OEM plugs are 
rated at 3 amps continuos (means no real rise in temp at that 
amperage) which is well below the full stall current for most glider 
digitals, and right at stall current for say an 8611 or 9252.


WEM

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[RCSE] Wanted to trade power system for glider

[Dan Kitching]

Hi all,

I have an unused motor, ESC, and LiPo packs that I'm not going to be 
using. Perfect for 50-60 sized helis or 40-60 sized aircraft.


Plettenberg HP-300/40/A3-S heli motor (not used beyond a bench test)
Schulze Future 32.55 ESC (heat sink added, not used beyond a bench test)
2x 5S2P Tanic LiPo packs. Combine for 5S2P (8800mAh) or 10S2P (4400mAh).
These packs are rated for 10C discharge rate. I'd trust 'em for 8S 
continuous.
I've put connectors on these packs, and nothing else has been done 
with them.


Combined new price is over US$1100.

I'd like to trade for a spotless, like new glider. Please no damaged, 
battle weary sailplanes, I'd like to trade for a nice plane that I can 
fly for a few years (barring a dumb thumb).


Anyone have an extra biggie they'd like to trade?

Thanks for the bandwidth!
   Dan


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www.dankitching.com
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Re: [RCSE] Hi Tech 5125MG Digital Wing Servo

[Dan Kitching]

I have two of them that have now outlived two planes, a hotliner and a 
F5B ship. Excellent servos.


   dan

Dan Ahearn wrote:


Anyone have any experience with the Hi Tech 5125MG Digital Wing Servo?

DJA


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[RCSE] Hi Tech 5125MG Digital Wing Servo

[Dan Ahearn]

Anyone have any experience with the Hi Tech 5125MG Digital Wing Servo? 

DJA

RE: [RCSE] Best...Wing Tape and Hinge tape is at www.soaringspecialties.com

[Dan]

This is the best wing tape I've found. Flexible & cheap too :~)  http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/521119.asp     DanGeorge Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Soaringspecialties.com also has the best hinge tape, because it’s the same stuff Don has at Hilaunch!           From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:47 PMTo: Soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] Best...Wing Tape and Hinge tape is at   Hilaunch has the best hinge tape, thin no stretch and takes a back hoe to get it loose from the surfaces, clear too.Nothing better for rudder hinges or
 wing surfaces, great for hatch cover hinges too. Best Wing Tape goes to Planes Wings and Thingsif you can get in touch with him. About  a 2" diameter roll of very clear and sticky stuff that holds even in winter condtions and the dampness we flew in this past weekend in Florida. Just thought you'd like to know :-)GordyHome for a few days  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

[RCSE] Any early Christmas gifts?

[Dan Kitching]

So, who's opened their gifts early? Or know what's coming?

Time to brag! Who's getting what?

I got a Breville espresso machine and a new 36" vinyl plotter cutter for 
my airbrushing business. Anyone want a funky paint job? It's better now 
that I won't have to cut masking film right on the wing/fuse.


   Dan
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[RCSE] Items for sale

[Dan Ahearn]

Seems like the first time I fired this off it got lost in the ether .

JR 6102 Transmitter, Ch 17. includes wall wart charger manual and
original box. Less then one season old, excellent condition $180 plus
shipping.


Stylus w/Glider card, Ch 31 includes original box, general and glider
card manual as well as original and high capacity battery. less then
one season old, excellent condition, $300 plus shipping.



Sapphire kit NIB, 7037 95% assembled, original box with plans and all accesories.

Incudes installed radio system, Airtronics 92085 8
channel duel conversion receiver with a channel 50 crystal, two 94102's
in the fuse and four 94141 in the wings. $550 plus shipping

Cheers
DJA

[RCSE] test post

[Dan Ahearn]

List seems a bit slow

Re: [RCSE] Off Topic - Voice Recognition s/w

[Dan]

Go here for a start http://www.download.com/Voice-Recognition/3150-7239_4-0.html     Dan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Curious whether anyone has enough experience to recommend a package. Trying to help a modeler who has some mobility issues. Simon Van LeeuwenPnP Systems - The E-Harness of ChoiceRadius SystemsCogito Ergo ZoomRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format  
	
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[RCSE] Receiver Crystal Identification

[Dan]

I have two film cans full of receiver crystals. Problem is I don't know which brand of receiver they fit. They all look alike other than the color strip on the end of the paper tag. Some have white-tipped tags, purple-tipped tags, and blue-tipped tags.     Is there a way to identify the receiver type/mfg. by the color of the tag? I assume that Airtronics and Hitec are not interchangeable (?)     Thanks...Dan
	
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[RCSE] Wanted NIB Sage wings

[Dan Ahearn]

Looking for a set of NIB Sage wings, FS01 or 7037 would  be  nice.

Cheers from  Dallas, land of those who cannot drive on ice 

[RCSE] Artemis for sale

[Dan Neelands]

600$ + insured shipping RTF minus receiver. SA7035 airfoil, 68 ounces all
up. The only issue worth mentioning is a skin crease on top of one wing. It
was this way when I got it and never changed in many full pedal launches and
deep zooms. Please see the picture at,
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447848.

 There are a few other minor scuffs. The worst of these is a small ding in
one wingtip. The fuse has HS-85BBs as do the tips (plug and play). This may
sound odd but the flaps are GWS micro 2BBMG. This is an honest 75 in/oz
metal geared servo which, for my money, is more reliable and centers better
than the HS-125.
I will ship in a good box with careful packing and photo documentation in
case there is a shipping claim. I also promise to go through the hoopla with
the shipping company if there is a claim. Some people don't realize that
only the shipper can do that.
Please email me with any questions.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I am not on
the computer all day and night so it could be a little while before you get
a reply but please hang in there. If you want to buy the plane please make
that clear or you will not be considered "in line".

Thanks for looking!
Dan Neelands

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Re: [RCSE] PLEEEEEEASE REEEEEAD! IT WAS ON GOOD MORNING AMERICATODAYSHOW...]]

[Dan]

  This is a HOAX!!  See: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/microsoft-aol.aspmark browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>> - Original Message - > Subject: Fw: PLEEASE READ! IT  mark browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:      >snip<
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RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6696: LMR motor for Pike Superior

[Dan Neelands]

If no one has mentioned it don't forget to look at Neu motors.  I am running
a 1506 2D 6.71 gearbox on 10 GP 3300s with terrific results.  80 amps with
an 18x10 prop in an electric Escape.  It's smoother than a Hacker and I can
talk to the people who built it on the phone.
I had some range issues with a UBEC too.  Now that I have a little 4 cell
AAA pack in there the worry of motive pack failure is gone as are the range
issues.  If a cell goes bad in the motive pack or something else it's still
a glider!
Dan Neelands



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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:38:23 -0500
From: "Frank Slaughter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tord Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6696:  LMR motor for Pike Superior
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Have a look at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D440307.
It's about the crash of a Stratos SL/e, tentatively blamed on an SBEC,
which is a stand-alone battery eliminator.

Frank=20

-Original Message-
From: Tord Eriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:16 PM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6696: LMR motor for Pike Superior

On Monday 14 November 2005 16.37, lee wrote:
>  I personally think that the BEC idea for a ship this size is a bad,=20
> bad, idea.

Rethinking, yes, of course! But one of those gizmos that replaces a rx
battery saves a lot of weight.

And yes, form factors when it comes to Li-Ion packs can make them
impossible to use - but check around, there are many brands!

Sensorless Hacker controllers are a blessing, after having used AVeox's
sensored, 'nuff said :-)!

Tord

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Re: [RCSE] Nats Issue and AMA ED

[Dan Kitching]

Well sure, they shouldn't have a problem giving up their flying site for 
whole month.
Seeing how Indiana has a nice and warm year 'round flying season, an 
entire month shouldn't be an issue at all.


Dan

TJB wrote:



Are there really that many pilots in Muncie that they can't spare a 
month out of the year for competition?  And one issue a year about 
competition shouldn't be such a big deal.  How are people going to 
learn about it and become interested?  I guess it won't be long before 
AMA becomes the AEA (All Electric Association), like many of the 
soaring clubs.  Heck, the majority of the soaring pilots in our area 
don't even want to have a club.  They just get together at a field and 
fly, no club, no dues, no contests, no hassle.


T

T&G
32 Mount View Dr
Afton, VA  22920

540 943-3356
fax   943-4178

- Original Message - From: "James V. Bacus" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats Issue and AMA ED


That's not what I heard from the editor of the mag.  I heard that the 
AMA received numerous letters from members that were tired of seeing 
an entire issue about competition.  There is a similar issue with 
members not liking the AMA facilities and grounds being used for an 
entire month for competition which they supposedly received letters 
about.  So a number of days was cut from Nats this year.


So in one year we almost lost a day at Nats, but shifted to starting 
on Friday to keep all the dates and we have lost the magazine 
coverage for the Nats.


It seems a growing number of modelers are not interested in contest 
flying.


I think that's unfortunate because that's my favorite part about 
soaring. And the Nats issue was my favorite issue for the entire 
year, now it's just a Christmas catalog of advertisements.




At 08:32 PM 10/30/2005, ROBERT M GELLART wrote:


Just for the record,
from what I know, it was the Model Aviation staff that generated 
this idea,

not AMA staff.



Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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Re: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

[Dan]

Many, Moe, & Jack bought it all :~)
 
DanTim Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Brent,There's no-fiber, short fiber, and long-fiber versions of Bondo. Theno-fiber is the creamy version you remember.Bondo and the competitive polyester body fillers are all heavier than youshould use on a model aircraft. A mixture of epoxy and micro-balloons ismuch lighter and sands more easily. Mix the epoxy then stir in enoughmicro-balloons to make a dry, stiff mix. More micro-balloons makes for alighter filler. More epoxy is wetter and heavier.For small spot filling (less weight build up), polyester spot filler is anair-dry product (no mixing) that comes in a tube. However, it alsostinks... all polyester resin products do. Polyester is nothouse-friendly unless you live alone and have no sense of smell. Or,unless you want to live alone.Good luck,Tim- Original Message - From: "Brent"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:24 PMSubject: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?> I'm doing a wing fairing on a scale ship, and I just did a small batch of> short fiber Bondo - wow, does that stink.>> I hadn't used this since my old Torino (back in the 70-80s), and it usedto> be pink and fairly tame; at least that's what I remember. Now it's green,> and my shop (the whole house) reeks. I think I passed out at some point,> and I only mixed an apple sauce package worth.>> I think I'm committed now, but is there a better way? Epoxy and carbosil?> I got the bondo tip from a pretty good scale ship guy, but he must have a> better ventilation system than I do.RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages
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Re: [RCSE] something new

[Dan Ahearn]

Prerry slick, I wonder about range. I couldn't find any specifics at the spektrum or Horizon sites?On 10/21/05, Jon Stone <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:2.4Ghz RC system, Spread Spectrum Modulation, 80 channels, auto channel selection.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPM2460several people on this list have been asking for this for a few years.
no more long antennas.  :)RCSE-List
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Re: [RCSE] Shrink Tubing

[Dan]

All sizes in 3 foot lengths - cheap  http://www.frys.com/localframe.html
 
DanGeorge L Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can anyone point me to a source that sells shrink tubing, the size that allows you to make a AA flight pack. My local hobby store sells the size that allows you to make AA flat packs but I need the size for square packs. All I've found so far on the web is the size for wiring.George Meyers WD6EQSFresno, CaliforniaGraduierte, schule der harten klopfen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Re: [RCSE] Receiver Advice for Stratos

[Dan Kitching]

Here's what you do, box up the Stratos and send it to me to take good 
care of. I'll send you back an unfinished Aquila.


;)

  Dan


Mark Williams wrote:

Just bought a Stratos SL and none of my receivers will fit if I leave the 
cases on them. I haven't tried removing the cases yet. I fly with a Vision 
and a Stylus, prefer to stay with dual conversion receivers. Anybody have 
some recommendations for use in this excellent airplane?


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Re: [RCSE] Batteries??

[Dan Kitching]

Hi Kent,

FWIW, I've always received excellent from the Hill's at 
www.battlepack.com. Steve is a great guy who keepss us high current guys 
in the loop with what's working well and what's not.


Dan

Kent Miller wrote:


I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have
been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their
service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink
tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was
basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would
be appreciated on another GOOD source.



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Kent Miller
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Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds

[Dan Ahearn]

For what it's worth, my turnaround, the McCann A-4 does indeed pivot.
It clips onto a tripod with a caribener type hook and hands freely,
able to move about all axis.

Pretty slick and easy to setup.

Dan

On 9/28/05, TJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, but it follows the plane as good as any low turnaround out there.  It
> pivots on the bottom plate.
> I will bring it to the next contest for you to see.  It is low to the ground
> so the line doesn't get caught on it.  No one unit is perfect for all uses,
> but this one really works well for what I fly.
> The McCann one doesn't pivot, which is why I said it needs to be mounted on
> a spike with a bearing so it can.  I have one mounted on a plate so it can
> pivot. The ones on the tall stakes are good if there are no downwind
> launches.
>
> Jeff would be more knowledgeable as far as F3J and F3B goes. I would agree
> with Jeff, if you don't mind an occasional walk, the WinchDoc one is the
> best one that follows the plane very well and is pre-made. You can do what
> Phil does and put guy lines out to each side to help keep the line from
> getting caught.
>
> Tom
>
> T&G
> 32 Mount View Dr
> Afton, VA  22920
>
> 540 943-3356
> fax   943-4178
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeff Steifel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "rcse" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
>
>
> > Absolutely NOT. The best turnaround is one that can follow the plane. The
> > reason, if someone comes off  the launch to the side, or snaps on the
> > launch the plane will veer hard to the side. The fixed turnaround limits
> > their ability to recover. The floating one follows the tension. Tom's
> > design below will abrade the line if it is off to the side.
> > The floating unit like the Winch doc is great if you advance to F3b, or
> > F3j as well. In that case you can hook off into the wind and launch
> > better. The ESL replaced their ground based turnarounds with Winchdoc
> > units. We had units very similar to the McCann style units.. Don't get me
> > wrong they work but the line stays low to the ground and abrades on the
> > ground too.
> > Also the McCann winches are great... One of my club uses 2 of them. But
> > the Winchdoc turnarounds are more functional
> >
> > In the ESL on braided we keep them high to prevent the rash from the
> > ground
> > In F3B I keep it low to the ground to prevent the mono from being cut by
> > other F3B fliers.
> > In F3J it works great with either a fixed tow rig or a sliding tow rig.
> > Doug even provides both a screw, and a hitch pin for either permanent
> > mount or quick release like F3J .. I use the hitch pin.
> >
> > Buy the winchdoc turnaround and you won't need to buy anything for F3J if
> > you decide to fly it , or F3b.. by any other style and you'll be back to
> > buy the winchdoc unit..
> >
> > I don't know Doug, have never met him, but use the real balls on all ESL
> > winches, and own his turnaround... Quality stuff at a good price.
> >
> >
> > TJB wrote:
> >
> >> The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit.  The ones with
> >> stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall
> >> stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle.
> >> Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal.  The line can't
> >> get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches.  I made
> >> one of these and absolutely love it.
> >>
> >> You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you use
> >> a stake with a bearing on it.  The stock one works okay, but the line
> >> rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom
> >>  T&G
> >> 32 Mount View Dr
> >> Afton, VA  22920
> >>  540 943-3356
> >> fax   943-4178
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >> To: mailto:soaring@airage.com>>
> >> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:12 PM
> >> Subject: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
> >>
> >> > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it?   thanks for
> >> > ur help
> >> >
> >> > bob
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds

[Dan Ahearn]

When I first picked up my A-4 turnaround as part of my McCann winch
kit I was concerned about the ability to pull the chute through the
turn around.

Then I figured out all I need to do is take off the chute prior to 
the last launch.

Problem solved

All I can say it it works like a hose!  I am a very satisfied customer!

Dan in Dallas ...

On 9/28/05, Tim McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Response to a few items:
>
> Only Tim McCann makes the Tim McCann turnaround. All my products are
> manufactured in-house by me.
>
> There are many occasions where the ability to pull the chute quickly through
> the turnaround has proven useful including lightning storm, illness/injury,
> herd of sheep moving across field, herd of cows moving across field, herd of
> soccer players moving across field, mad dog, mean bull, bee swarm, farm
> machine/mowers, ATVs, horse riders, landing aircraft, bandits, irate
> landowner, the fuzz and sometimes it saves a walk. I've set a towline across
> a country road knowing I could stomp on the winch and clear it quickly for
> traffic.
>
> Lines tend to twist together with elevated turnarounds but I've had a
> turnaround with a large diameter narrow pulley mounted on an elevated swivel
> (TA2 replaced by TA4) for years.
>
> In my opinion the number one turnaround design consideration is anti
> fouling. Pulleys and mounting hardware should be free of anything that could
> snag the line and have the ability to clear a load of towline dumped on top
> of or behind. Rollers should have low mass and be made of metal so they
> won't degrade in sunlight.
>
> Everyone has an opinion about the best turnaround, it depends on your
> application. If you only fly contests at a club field your needs are
> different than LSF tasking where you're likely to encounter some weird
> situations. You should buy them all just in case:-)
>
> Tim McCann LSF V #79
> Harrison, AR
> AMA Contest Director - Leader Member
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Re: [RCSE] Becker anntenna

[Dan Ahearn]

That would be HKM USAhttp://www.hkm-models.com/Accessories.htm

On 9/28/05, Peter Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where can I get Becker antenna for my Royal Evo?
> Thanks Pete
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