[RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site (and goodbye RCSE)
*The 2M Image is gone... Don is there a new Image in RD? :-)* Wait, I just read up on the demise of RCSE. If Gordy is elected president, he can fix this with our tax dollars. Is there no free/cheap list server out there that we could auto-subscribe us all to a new address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know some of you have the mad internet skills and tools to make this happen. Or someone can pony up the $10 a month for a host that has list serv capability. All you need is http://www.phplist.com installed on your host. *In closing, Two Meters rule. Paul www.casl.net www.emersunn.com * On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings... Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new site up. Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site (and goodbye RCSE)
REDACTION: The google group is superior. Disregard the effort of creating a new list. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *The 2M Image is gone... Don is there a new Image in RD? :-)* Wait, I just read up on the demise of RCSE. If Gordy is elected president, he can fix this with our tax dollars. Is there no free/cheap list server out there that we could auto-subscribe us all to a new address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know some of you have the mad internet skills and tools to make this happen. Or someone can pony up the $10 a month for a host that has list serv capability. All you need is http://www.phplist.com installed on your host. *In closing, Two Meters rule. Paul www.casl.net www.emersunn.com * On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings... Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new site up. Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Scores
Finally got the scores up on the website. Thanks to all and see you next year! http://casl.net PS - on the Open scores it has Cody ahead of Mike for 3rd place, that is just an alphabetical mistake. Mike took 3rd and Cody 4th after the flyoff, which was pretty cool if you missed it. Hi-starts, 5 minute tasks, landing tape... Mike landed a 5:03 with a 96 landing and Cody a 5:00 with a 92 landing if I remember correctly. -- Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.emersunn.com
[RCSE] Uploading swc 08 pics from my phone
if time allows. To: http://www.flickr.com/emersunn First thoughts of the morning- cold mud/hot coffee. -- Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.emersunn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Finished! SWC 2007 entry forms
Sorry this took so long . . .Printable form (includes RES woody class info):http://www.casl.net/swc/SWC_2007_FLYER_ENTRY_FORM.pdf Online form:http://www.casl.net/swc.html (click the REGISTER ONLINE NOW link) Mail-in forms go to:Pablo A. Romero 1924 N 118th DrAvondale, AZ 85323More questions? Contact Chico:Phone: 623-374-7469 After 3pm until 9pm Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]Details:First stop of the 2007 Western States Triad SeriesHosted by the CENTRAL ARIZONA SOARING LEAGUE CONTEST SITE: Schnepf Farms in Queen Creek, AZ (45 min SE of Phoenix)DATE: February 10-11, 2007 CONTEST DIRECTOR: Darwin Barrie CONTEST FORMAT: Precision Duration (contest format will be announced at pilot meeting). ENTRY FEE: $35 (non-refundable) Entries limited to First 200 Applications Received. (Max. four pilots per frequency) Register for a second or third class for $20 ea.APPLICATION START SIGNUP: OCT 20, 2006 APPLICATION DEADLINE: JAN 19, 2007 AWARDS: Open 1st-10th, 2M 1st-3rd, RES 1st-3rd, Res Woody 1st, Previously Declared AMA Club Teams 1st. Gray Cup (62+years) and Youth Award (AMA Youth members only - under 19 as of contest date.)CLASSES: 2M, RES, RES Woody, Unlimited (OPEN) PILOT MEETING: 7:30 AM each morningBBQ: Saturday Night (Breakfast and lunch will also be available Saturday and Sunday) SHIRTS: Tshirts and Golf Shirts in adult sizes only L, XL, 2XL, 3XL, 4XL (Limited Shirt Selection at Contest!) RAFFLE: Sunday - half before the awards presentation and half after. Event Coordinator: Pablo "Chico" RomeroSpecial Event Saturday: All up Last down DLG, Slow Stick combat Tent/RV Camping: Contact Schnepf Farms directly at 480-987-333 to arrange a spot at the contest site. Facilities: Very clean modern flush toilets and showers with handicap access. General public invited no parking or admission fee for spectators.Hotels and Rest: Visit our web site for more info www.casl.netRV RENTAL: Contact Don Shafer at Arizona Travel Center, 602-244-2300 or at www.arizonarvrentalsonline.com Thanks for your patience and see you in February, Paulwww.casl.net
Re: [RCSE] lithium AA bateries
Lithium in this case is equivalent to the Platnum in a Visa card - marketing only; no actual lithii were harmed in the making of this battery.On 10/30/06, Robert Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are not rechargable.They are E2 Energizer Lithium.They are notidentified in any other way.No adjectives, adverbs or modifiers.SimplyLithium.Robert Samuels ... St. Louis From: Vince Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: soaring@airage.comSubject: Re: [RCSE] lithium AA bateries Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:16:53 -0800 (PST)I suspect that these might be the NON-rechargeableLithium Alkaline batteries.Does the packaging mention recharging anywhere?Vince --- Robert Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought some lithium AA bateries for use in my digital camera.They are 1.5 volt cells.I don't understand how they can be 1.5 volts when lithiums are 3 volts.Can anyone explain it to me? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis __Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.(http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta)RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Please note thatsubscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOLare generally NOT in text format_Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search!http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmtagline RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Paging Darwin Barrie
Clarence,I can answer some of these questions.I just got off the phone with Chico and we are still trying to get the best price for BBQ and T-shirts for the SWC 07 contest. I am sorry for all the confusion but I was told to open the online registration for all at a certain date with or without the BBQ prices. Those who have registered already can re-register online and pay for just BBQ/T-Shirts if needed. I recommend just waiting until we have the prices before you register, which should be by Monday. The interest in the last few days tells me that the SWC 07 is gong to be a biggie!Again very sorry for all the confusion I am just doing my best as a volunteer webmaster.PS the Woody/RES details are being worked on but I hear Woody will be an option this year. Paulwww.casl.netOn 10/26/06, clarence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Darwin Can you shed any light on the SWC event, BBQ, T-Shirts, also will theRES Woody classification will be be the same as the CVRC Fall Fest.ClarenceRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC 2007
I forgot to mention that a printable, mail-in form will also be available at www.casl.net as soon as the BBQ and T-Shirt prices are in. Sorry again for the delay. On 10/26/06, Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarence,I can answer some of these questions.I just got off the phone with Chico and we are still trying to get the best price for BBQ and T-shirts for the SWC 07 contest. I am sorry for all the confusion but I was told to open the online registration for all at a certain date with or without the BBQ prices. Those who have registered already can re-register online and pay for just BBQ/T-Shirts if needed. I recommend just waiting until we have the prices before you register, which should be by Monday. The interest in the last few days tells me that the SWC 07 is gong to be a biggie!Again very sorry for all the confusion I am just doing my best as a volunteer webmaster.PS the Woody/RES details are being worked on but I hear Woody will be an option this year. Paulwww.casl.net On 10/26/06, clarence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darwin Can you shed any light on the SWC event, BBQ, T-Shirts, also will theRES Woody classification will be be the same as the CVRC Fall Fest.ClarenceRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stopwatch Listings
That is where I got my Robic SC-707 - $34.95 to my door with the free shipping. Even the Robic SC-500e looks nice at $15.95 (start stop reset only). I like the SC-707 a lot, good for all types of flying, heat resistant - cheapo stopwatches don't last in AZ. http://www.stopwatchcentral.com/robic/robicA.htm#Robic%20SC-707 On 10/18/06, David Register [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just FYI, best comparative listing of stopwatches I've found is: http://www.stopwatchcentral.com/index.html The ones often used for soaring are all there (Seiko S321, Robic SC707, Accusplit A625) along with many others - including Brian's printer supplied Seiko. Nice place to compare features. For lap/split models, info is not provided for freeze times but Seiko is typically 20s, Robic ~15s and Sportline ~5s. - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Visalia
Lots of good pics here:http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=577416On 10/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be posting scores tonight and I believe Ed Hipp has some pictures to post as well. We just have to recover a bit from the task.Phil Hill -- Original message --From: Lee Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have anything to say about Visalia?? Scores, Pictures, Etc?? LeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! SmallBusiness.-- Forwarded message --From:Lee Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:soaring mail page soaring@airage.comDate:Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:00:11 +Subject:[RCSE] Visalia Does anyone have anything to say about Visalia??Scores, Pictures, Etc??LeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
[RCSE] Visalia
Well, I'm not there but through the magic of the internet I can tell you this: Weather was very nice to perfect today, and judging by the 2nd round scores, JW is on top. http://www.cvrcsoaring.com/2006_scores.htm(link only shows the 2nd round scores of all classes and I am not sure it is not an old page with the wrong title)
Re: [RCSE] thats my girl
Awesome. That even beats this note I found on the workbench one day after work:http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/239520163/For those too lazy to click it says Love you! Beer in fridge! I wasn't even valentines day.On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: got a email (below) from my significant other today from her work. god bless her! or maybe god blessed me. :-) i guess i'll go shoot some landings to keep her happy. :-) dh - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: tonite wanna get out for a walkthis evening ? orgo to the airport and shoot few landings or something ?Donna UnruhAccounts PayableProblem Resolution PRMS Maytag
Re: [RCSE] LSF Discussion
replacing competition requirement with non-competition tasks that provide a comparable level of challenge and skill development To re-create a comparable level to a competition there would have to be a task that required you to launch on a specific day, at a specific time, regardless of conditions, with an unexpected field repair, and a gaggle of bozos to sucker you into some bad air, and a timer who may or may not read the air correctly and give you bad advice, who will talk too much and countdown all wrong, and stop the timer a full second late, and at least a dozen peers to watch you launch and land, wishing the best for you, but most hoping to beat you, and some playing mind games and/or talking trash to you, and then there is the added lust for an I beat Gordy pin, not to mention wanting to score higher than all of your other club buddies, all this after having spent the night in the back of your truck after driving 600 miles and slowstick nightflying until 3 AM and you are getting a weird rash from being out in the heat for three days . . . ;-) Paul LSF I On 9/7/06, Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, If we had that kind of achievement program we would have to have Level X for Gordy. See Ya, Pat S Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just occurred to me that a good explanation of why some want a New achievement program may be the same reason that involvement by new blood is diminishing. Nobody has any time to enjoy themselves. The 40 hour work week is gone and if you get more than 2 weeks vacation consider yourself lucky. Perhaps an achievement program that rewards point for posting to RCSE. :-) Oh yea, I'm at work. This message paid for by my employer. :-) Steve Soaring Exchange Level V LSF Level IV At 10:35 AM 9/7/2006, James V. Bacus wrote: Steve makes some really good points here. We were already traveling on weekends 100's of miles just to go fly with others, the LSF tasks didn't start us off on that. We didn't get our contest task points at home because we have a big club, we had to go on the road for those points because the pilots within our club are so strong and there are a layer of guys on top that are very difficult to beat. All hobbies can be expensive, but perhaps the largest expense in this day and age is the time to spend with them. Well written Steve. At 09:12 AM 9/7/2006, S Meyer wrote: I started traveling to Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky to attend contests. First it was because that was where the HL contests were at. Now mainly TD contests. It was not just for the LSF points, I met some great guys along the way, learned a lot from all the different people, and had a lot of fun as well. I could move closer to theses areas but I choose to live where I am. The current LSF system is designed for the pilot who wants interact with other pilots, teach and learn at the same time. As far as getting a Level V win from a SOAR club contest. Fat chance, I have resided that I will have to attend smaller contests in far places. Away from guys like, Rich Burnoski, Karl Miller, Jim McCarthy, Tom Kallevang, Jim Bacus, and more. And now the upcoming novice of the group Pat Crosby, watch out he's a good stick. So be careful what you wish for. To attain Level 5 requires dedication, commitment, and yes, money. There is no hobby out there if you want to be good you have to spend money. From Gardening to Cycling, they all have an expensive side to them. And they all take what few of us have... time. Steve Meyer LSF IV At 08:02 AM 9/7/2006, Pat McCleave wrote: Steven, Once again you are missing the point, it is not so much about changing the current system as it is about adding a separate system to the fold for those pilots who do not choose or do not have the means to travel to the big contests in order to complete the list of tasks. Funny thing is, almost all of those that are so apposed to any change just happen to be fortunate enough to be involved with clubs that have regular monthly contests 20 or more pilots. Maybe if the shoe were on the other foot and you guys had to travel hundreds of miles and spend hundreds of dollars everytime you wanted to attend a contest with 20 or more people, you might see it another way. If I were a new guy just starting out and did not already know several of the people on here, I would get the feeling that most of you guys were a pretty elitist group and could care less about new pilots joining the group. I know this is not the case, because like I said, I know most of you know differently but a new guy just signing up on the list would not know that. Perception plays a very big role in things. We really need to keep that in mind. See Ya, Pat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must
Re: [RCSE] Nebulus Flying Videos
The links I think . . . On 9/6/06, Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to lighten the mood a bit, was at www.youtube.com last evening looking at a video of a 3D ship flying and kind of started watching some other flying stuff. Wow, there is some cool stuff there. Three personal favorites: Goodbye Hero-F-14 driver I think that is expousing his displeasure at the demise of the F-14 for of all things a tanker (FA-18E and so on), great take off at Key West. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Nyp9IExm0 I Won't Flinch-take one British kid in the sand, and a buddy with a camera and add an AV-8B really low... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbqQr2EEtHA What I Will Be in 4 years-Another Brit that is about to start flight school found some really neat French film, flying a Mirage and two Jaguars, at ridiculously low altittude near the beach and shipping, great music too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qlFBepviys Sorry that I did not get the URL's but long and I figured you could go there and do a quick search. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For sale 2 Rx, 3 x-tals (Futaba)
I have two Futaba FP-R127DF receivers, one is new this year, one is older, and also one extra crystal. (channels 23, 16 and 36, respectively). $70 shipped con-US. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/232958593/ Paul www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: Great Ideas
Not sure if this qualifies as Great but . . . Mounting pushrod housings inside a tailboom or fuselage: With a music wire pushrod, hold the housing in place using neodymium magnets on the outside of the boom. Then hold the boom upright and dribble thin CA down the housing (being careful not to get it inside the housing of course), mist some kicker in there and you are done. You can then remove the piano wire and put a CF rod in the housing if you like. Works good on all fuses/booms. Some like to add small wraps of thread or tape along the housing to give the CA more to bite into. I find on good etched teflon housing this is not necessary, and it impedes the flow of CA down the boom. Picture here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/217372079/ Good magnet source (I bought the sample pack): http://www.kjmagnetics.com/ Paul www.casl.net On 8/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice; how about the rest of us submitting their idea-jewels for something to do. Could make for some interesting reading for a change. Here's a couple: On F3x fuses with opaque (typically carbon) canopies, I machine a slot which is long enough to view one of those nifty battery LED's. The slot is offset to one side such that just prior to launch I can glance at it and not only know PWR is present, but where it's at. I then Goop the LED display to the inside of the canopy. A side benefit is that technically, even if the canopy departs the aircraft on launch/landing it remains tethered, thus allowing you to score on that round. The lead material supplied on most imported F3x aircraft, it seems the prerequisite is to find the absolute cheapest material produced by mankind. The awg is poor, and the insulation will depart on a hot day. One might consider replacing it. The piddly switches supplied with our systems are average at best, especially for competition use. They have been known to fail. Simply replace the entire switch assembly with a 2-pin high quality bullet-type connector used to supply PWR to small electrics, and your servos will see higher voltage. Add to this that typical bullet-type connectorship has cycle rates in the 100's, which rivals the original slider switch. Quoting Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's clever, Tom. Thanks for passing it on. I lament the absence of neat, creative ideas that used to be presented by many. - Original Message - From: Thomas Koszuta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Another tip about securing a tube in an inaccessible area I've done the same thing with heavy thread. Drill a hole of the fuse in both sides, where you want to attach the tube. Using a long upholstery needle, go into one side and out the other, reverse the needle and loop the thread around the tube as you pass the needle back out. If you are sewing in a tube on both sides, you obviously need to loop both of them before sealing the holes. Pull the tubing up tight to the fuse side and fill the hole with baking soda. Hit it with thin CA, then sand flush. (I didn't see/read the whole thread, so if someone already suggested this, apologies.) Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY - Original Message - From: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: [RCSE] Another tip about securing a tube in an inaccessible area This applies to a translucent fuselage, such as unpainted glass. If the tube to be installed is one nothing wants to stick to, decide on the spots where you want it attached and shrink a sleeve of HS tubing at those spots on the tube. Position the tube. Just above it, drill small holes in the fuselage, such as 1/8, at the location of the HS pieces. Bend a common pin so it can be inserted into the hole to pull the tubing against the inside of the fuselage. Remove the needle from a small syringe. Put some quickepoxy in it. Let gravity help get it where wanted. Put a tiny spring clamp on the pin. Snip when the epoxy has cured. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] build tip thx, glad i can help some. i'm always looking for a better way, can't believe i didn't of this a long time ago. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] build tip Good idea, Dave. Thanks for passing it on. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: [RCSE] build tip here's
Re: [RCSE] 2M Rambles
I noticed a 2M with Drela Derivative airfoils at Sal's site: http://nesail.com/detail.php?productID=5125 Has anyone seen it in person yet? Looks promising. On 8/1/06, Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, What a great post. Thank you. You're right on about the MH32 being a poor choice for a 2M section. I don't like it for open class TD either. Drela has done a good deal of optimization on sections for us, and he's got a pretty good idea of what works in the real world. Definitely a good idea to try some of his thinner sections on a 2M. The key here would be LIGHT!!! I don't particularly like super low A/R 2M's... ala the Duck. Span loading ends up too high, wing loading too low... not a good combo. At least not my personal preference… you get a model that doesn't go anywhere... AND comes down quickly... woohoo!!! Your also correct about AUW. My old Lasers used to weigh in around 31 ounces, and they flew quite well (for a 2M). People seem to have gotten complacent about 40 and 45 ounce 2M's. Of course they fly fine... they're just pre-ballasted. Especially when you're only flying against other 40 and 45 ounce models. But remember, a 2M isn't much larger than a HL model. They're what? 25% larger? Who wants to thermal a 30 ounce HL? Or even a 20 ounce HL for that matter? That's tremendously over simplified, there are many other factors here, but you get my point. We can't build our 2M's light enough. Mike L's 2M Aegea weighed in at I think about 25 ounces (before the boom broke), and it was probably the best flying 2M I've ever seen. In the early morning light lift rounds, his was the only model that even recognized lift, as the rest of the field flew right through it and underneath him without even a bobble. V-Tails - still... no. The main problem with a V-Tail is that we all fly differing stability ranges. What I mean here, is that while I may prefer a less stable model, you may prefer a more stable model, and a beginner prefers a ludicrously stable model. Why am I talking about stability and not CG??? .. same thing for this discussion. You can't just oversize the V to be correct in yaw, and expect the model to fly right. It'll be too stable for me, and maybe for you... but perfect for the beginner. When I flew Super V's, I couldn't get the model loose enough. I'd cheat the CG way back, until I was happy with the performance and flight characteristics in pitch, and the model would tuck hard in slow cruise (harder as the speed increases). Not great for a TD model. S... that's an indication that the model is overstabbed or too stable. So, I had to cut the V's down... then all my yaw stability went away. V-tails are a compromise at best. You can play games with the V angle to get it closer, but I've never got one right. They're fine for a one dimensional model - ala a slope racer, cuz you're never hanging the model on the wing. You don't see Drela's design's being V-Tails, do ya? ;-) The design challenges for a 2M are rather complex, and this makes it sorta fun. There are many compromises to be made. A/R vs. Area. Cruise vs. Hang. Cross tail... or... uh cross tail. (I'm not even gonna mention a damn V) I'm going to do a new 2M in the next few months. I'm not just going to focus on the wing, but on the fuse as well. We're seeing gains in F3B with small cross section fuses. I think I can shave some weight, and some drag here as well. I've broken up with multiple women in the last few months... need to do enough models to keep up with the naming process... ;-) Possibly Lil Beeotch - we'll see D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Water-ski Aerotow?
Meh. My Grandpa claimed that he and his friends once tried this stunt: Theywould transfer a water skier being towed on a boat toa tow rope dangling from a small plane. This was attempted on the Bourbeuse river in Missouri which is one of that state's most twisted and meandering rivers - it winds for nearly 100 miles with an air distance of only 27 miles, all of it within Franklin County. They also built a ski jump that was only used once -it was toosteep and the first attempt resulted in someone getting slammed into the ramp. They cut it free from it's anchors and let it drift over the dam at Noser Mill. Paul hey, that's not soaring related but interesting and I mentioned an aircraft On 3/29/06, S Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very awesome.Interesting to see the TRUE level flight perspective.:-)Thank Rudy.At 07:27 AM 3/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Here's an idea spawned by the water skiing Harvards; water-skiaerotow!Imagine skimming across the water then pulling up intovertical opposing rolls!Johnny Berlin, are you ready? http://www.flightzone.co.za/media/harvards.wmv--Rudy Siegel, AMA 131126 CDRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring-request@airage.com.Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem
Dear #1 through #99, I was within 20 feet of the crash - remember I was out there hunting for a dropped pocketknife. The plane tapping the wires and landing in the tilled dust that is desert farm land was softer than any competition landings I have seen. I would recommend that the saddle area be beefed up before y'all go flying again. Paul www.casl.net PS Fusions Rule! On 3/27/06, Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember that #42 was CRASHED at Phoenix. From what I heard, it went into some power lines, then crashed from around 75ft. Apparently, the repair wasn't adequate. Just because the Supra wing mount didn't survive a crash, doesn't mean it is not correctly designed to withstand the normal stresses of hard launches and contest landings. My Supra will be here in a few days, and I will have no qualms about flying it hard! Cheers - Jim Laurel Seattle Area Soaring Society RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Interest in Soaring [Was:] Model Aviation Control Line???
So the question is, what happened to the interest in RC Soaring. Bottom line: The interest in RC soaring has been replaced by the instant gratification of the electric park flyer. Things impeding the interest in Soaring: 1) Need a big field close to home (urban sprawl has eliminated safe soaring here, I drive 80 miles to fly in peace) 2) Soaring learning curve is higher, takes longer (Electric foamie learning curve: throttle up, crash; throttle up, crash; throttle up, crash; throttle up, crash; throttle up, LOOK DUDE I can hover!) 3) Expense: If you develop a real interest in Soaring, the expenses soon start to add up: Good plane, good TX, good servos = $1500 and up. Plus you gotta launch it somehow. 4) Intimidation. New guy sees pilots that are soaring $2k worth of carbon fiber, expresses an interest, and they point him to a 2M balsa kit. That's how we all started. Those who truly love soaring will stick with it. The rest will be shooting us down with their slo-sticks from their backyards. And as for all the CL articles in the AMA mag: I have been an RC observer/participant most of my life and I have never ever seen a CL model in the air or on the ground. Imagine my surprise when cracking open the mag and seeing 3 or 4 different varieties of the mysterious CL. On 3/2/06, Ray Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A. Realty is in the numbers. B. Model Aviation WAS chuck full of sailplane contest reports, ADVERTISMENT from vendors and mfg, but that was yesterday C. So the question is, what happened to the interest in RC Soaring. To me, this questions is what should be discussed and hopefully lead to: what can we do to promote RC Soaring. Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters - Original Message - From: Bill's Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Model Aviation Control Line??? Bill Swingle wrote: I am curious. Does control line truly have a big enough following to justify all the press it does get? I'm doubtful. Here's some numbers: 2005 NATS attendance: RC Total = 433 Soaring = 151 Control Line = 223 Free Flight = 348 Makes you wonder why the Free Flight guys are not screaming?? Personally I consider it so basic and elementary that it's boring. Why do people fiddle about with it? Of course I feel the same about glow power as well. :-) Everyone thinks that the other guy's hobby/interest is lame. You should hear what my power friends say about gliders. What the heli guys say about plankers, what the TD guys say about slopers, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on... There was also no heli column or scale aerobatics column this issue. I have not seen them yelling, yet!!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Orlando was warm and windy but no problem for a Giant like...'
he flys a Genital LadyGenital Lady?I think I saw that in Tijuana once . . .On 2/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you missed the Last Chance to Beat Gordy on His Birthday man on man contest today in Orlando ;-( Slightly under 200 pilots attended. Well we had a nice day of challenging air, I flew my Giant (third outing with it) and I think it showed its abilities to really range around and to work tough tight blowing bubbles. I am still learning a lot about it. I couldn't seem to get my eye on the spot so hung in all day with 25's (landings were 25, 50,75 and100 point measured spot) which sounds pretty bad but the radius of the spot to 25 was 10mm...so you really had to be on. :-) The Pike Giant is really making life tough for me! I love the Superior wing but the speed of the Giant wing and its ability to shoot wayyy out is kind of sexy :-) I'm not using a skeg, just in case I decide to make my bide for the F3J worlds :) Rick Kuburis with a home field advantage ended up victorious using a home brew secret weapon design, there was no way anyone was going to beat him today, he was a machine. He was so far in the zone that atone pointhe was putting Ketchup ona hot dog during his landing. Rick Eckels used his own formula for scoring the man on man event, which has something do with sacrificing a chicken and generous use of power eraser. We went thru the whole day without a broken line and I don't think we had a delay between groups of more than ...well just enough time to let the birds circling to get wayyy down wind :-) Jim McC came up to join us and had hopes of getting even from our last meeting here, but a last round of really stinky air sent him back down south with dreams of next time. Allan Parsons (yep the I Robot guy) really had his Fusion working on steroids, some of the best launches and reflex runs I have ever seen with a bagged plane...it really is one of the top contest ships...still. I timed for one of the veterans during the last round, he flys a Genital Lady and I think he hadn't had a round over 1 1/2mins all day, I got him settled down and he went for a huge launch with a ping at the endhe was light on the pedal but really controlled his energy and I think it was the highest I had ever seen one of those balsa birds ever launch..and he even got a ping! Hank is not 30years old :-) He had been a full size DG owner for a lot of years, but his eyes and thumbs had had better days, but that last flight he managed energy and followed the river of air and had it spec'd without a turn. At just over a minute left, we were talking about how great it was going to be to hit that 100 to cap off the flight...when a clubmate came shooting across with a NSP Edge, T boned the GL and shredded it. Both planes were too far out to be able to judge depth and proximity so no foul on either partthe GL parts worked their way to Terra Firma and the day ended with a slight bummer anda great story for the BBQ restaurant afterward ;-) Me, always a bridesmaid down here it seems. ;-) Had her in the bag but got hammered with a line tangle and then a late launch and lousy thumbing :-) Sure wish you could have been there too! Gordy orlando today louisivlle today
[RCSE] Winter reminder for contest pilots
At the SWC I saw no less than three batteries go sour on 3 different stopwatches (luckily only one was during a task). Don't check your stopwatch battery before you fly, just replace it. Paul www.casl.net aka SWC winch master with the bullhorn
Re: [RCSE] Results of Southwest Soaring
Scores are up at http://www.casl.net/swc_data/06scores.html Thanks for coming out and see you next time. Paul On 2/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Well I made it from snowing Atlanta today to Puerto Vallartawere it is not snowing :-) Sitting on the beach typing this note. Everyone here is wondering about what fun everyone had at the SWC this weekend...well at least I think that's what all the chatter is about(they tend to speak Spanish here). In any case I think one of them was talking about how well Don Richmonds internal pushrods worked on his Supra, and how he was getting a lot of envious looks from other guys who have 'outies'. And I think there was some funny reports on wild landings and flip oversbut again, it was all in Spanish. I guess if you 'add em' all up, the comments sounded pretty positive :-) GordyLife is currently a beach
Re: [RCSE] SWC
I left before the scores were posted today. The first round was 4 minutes and then there were 4 rounds of add-em up with a total of 33 minutes. However things were running behind so they shortened it to 3 rounds of 23 minutes (my numbers may be a little off). Weather was nice with a little breeze pushing the thermals away from the field pretty quick and causing a few to land off-field. The real excitement was a plane hitting the power lines south of the field on friday. And then an Icon getting fried on the same power lines today. The icon hung there for a while burning until it finally burned right through the power line, bringing it down. (both times cutting power to the whole farm community and getting the local utility company scrambling some trucks out - neither were happy with us) I don't know if you have ever seen a plane fry on the wires but it makes an awesome flash/noise/mushroom cloud of black smoke! BAP Today after the Icon cut the power, I was out by the end of the field looking for a dropped pocketknife when I heard a plane hit the power lines again right behind me! Luckily the power was off, or this Cherry-red Supra woulda been BBQ ship #3. It was unscathed. So far as the Supras go - they fly well, but without the anticipated miraculousness. I found the pocketknife BTW. On 2/11/06, Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking forward to hearing first day results. Are they flying addem up this year? If so 1st day results for many are pretty much meaningless. Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring....well I subscribed to this list now what happens?
For the n00b, I'd use flickr.com - free image hosting and easy to use. http://www.flickr.com/ My account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ On 12/3/05, Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a project with lots of pictures and updates, you might want to set up a blog somewhere and tell us where to find it, or link off your site. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i take a pic from My Pictures, make a link or whatever it's called, then add this to a post here ? Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com http://www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: Soaringwell I subscribed to this list now what happens? You can't have photos on the RCSE, but you can show a 'link' if you have a webpage with photos. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring....well I subscribed to this list now what happens?
Sorry, that message was for Dave. Now I'm the n00b. On 12/3/05, Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the n00b, I'd use flickr.com - free image hosting and easy to use. http://www.flickr.com/ My account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ On 12/3/05, Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a project with lots of pictures and updates, you might want to set up a blog somewhere and tell us where to find it, or link off your site. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i take a pic from My Pictures, make a link or whatever it's called, then add this to a post here ? Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com http://www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: Soaringwell I subscribed to this list now what happens? You can't have photos on the RCSE, but you can show a 'link' if you have a webpage with photos. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: For sale: 2M and 4M
2M Sold. 4M still available: new trade and price details here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442503#post4614871 Thanks RCSE! Paul www.casl.net On 11/15/05, Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valenta Models Thermic XL 4M (canopy version, carbon d-box wing) RTF minus servos and rx $800 +s/h Whisper 2M Sailplane with Flaps RTF minus rx $300 +s/h Quick pic here: http://www.public.asu.edu/~emersunn/599671.attach.jpg Details here: http://www.public.asu.edu/~emersunn/2m4m.html Even more pictures here: http://homepage.mac.com/emersunn/4sale Both are great planes, just moving on to new projects. Thanks for the bandwidth. Paul www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Registration is now available at http://www.casl.net/swc.html Paul www.casl.net On 11/17/05, Darwin N. Barrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The web site is being finished up right now for registration. The contest is the SECOND weekend of February this year. The dates were changed due to many conflicts including, the Super Bowl, Phx Open, etc Some may say, what does that have to do with the contest? Simple, we had trouble getting enough help to work last year. This year will be better without the conflict. George and I are both CD's for the event. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] SWC What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Parkflyer a problem?
ME: Hey what channel are you on? PFG: I dunno ME: Well you might be interfering with our club field across the street, you don't want to shoot down one of those $2000 planes do you? PFG: Meh. ME: Well you could join our club and enjoy frequency control and the shared knowledge of 100 fellow pilots. PFG: How much? ME: Our club is only $20 a year, but of course you would have to become an AMA member for $60 a year. PFG: No thanks walks away We don't fly at our club field much anymore. On 11/2/05, rdwoebke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can either look at this as a problem, or an opportunity. Lee, I don't know if you meant it this way, but your post comes across pretty negative towards park flyers. Instead of looking at these models and these flyers as a problem, why not look at them as an opportunity? I fly quite a bit at local parks, having never lived in a city with a dedicated soaring club (except while I was at Purdue). Every time I meet another person at a park with an airplane (be it $30.00 on off model, a throttle and rudder aerobird model, or a guy flying a 3D style ship), I always introduce myself and get their email address. I always ask them what channel they are on (and more often than not, they do not know) and explain that I would not want to be on the same channel as them and it cause their model to fly improperly. See, this is what I don't understand about people who think they other guy is going to cause a frequency problem for them. It goes both ways. A modeler with a parkflyer does not want his pride and joy to be damaged as much as we don't want our super moldie to be damaged. That 2K we have in a moldie very well could be the economic equivalent of what a college student has in his 3D fomie. OK, back onto constructive things. Unfortunately, I moved away from Indy, but I had built up a network of about 25 pilot's emails addresses. I was sending out an email about once a week to let folks know when I and others would be out at the field and if I would bring my high start along. Some folks used this group to start indoor electric flying, and a few of the pilots actually started flying gliders. One of the new pilots I tried to help out actually attended the Nats for the first time this year. So instead of looking at park flyers as a problem, why don't we invite them into the fold? I flew both my LSF 4 1 hour flights at this park along side park flyers flying GWS planes and 3D planes. Our hobby can and does coexist! It just takes a bit of working together. A positive attitude can and does go along way. Treating parkflyer pilots like an equal (regardless of the type or cost of their model) will go a long way towards building mutual respect. Off soap box…. Ryan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] RC Soaring Frappr!
Gordy - nice sweater. On 11/3/05, Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had only heard about the naked sloping photos -- but now thanks to Frappr I have SEEN them. MY EYES! MY EYES! Thanks Gordy! James V. Bacus wrote: Up to 65 members now and some really great pictures! I have seen Dr. Dan launch his ICON like that... ;-) http://www.frappr.com/rcsoaring RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for SBXC/Trade (NASA has one!)
Copied from the xc soaring mailing list, sorry if you have already seen it: - I came across this link showing NASA using an SBXC and autopilot to thermal. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/home/index.html I think we probably need to ban NASA from entering our XC events! John On 10/18/05, Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im looking to possibly work out a deal for an SBXC. Ive got a real nice full carbon F3J Pike Superior Xtail white top/black bottom for excellent visibility. Never crashed/broken/etc. Ready to fly sans Rx. Looking to possibly work out a deal for an SBXC in excellent shape , a NIB unbuilt one would be even better. There is a XC contest coming up in Sacramento. I plan on going to check it out, if you are interested and are going to the contest we could talk, you could check out and fly the Pike if you like. PM me if interested. Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] feminus danglius volupti clouds
Mammatus, simply enough. http://vortex.plymouth.edu/cloudboutique/mammatus.jpg On 10/17/05, Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the proper name for the cloud formations suggested by the name I've given them in the Subject Line? If this shape is outside of your experience, your education is sorely lacking. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Adjustable towhook
Anyone have a spare adjustable towhook? or- An online dealer of said hook of adjustability? (Difficulty: must accept PayPal) Thanks for your time. Paul www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: New DS world records
They gotta recalibrate that gun, that only looked like 300.75 mph to me. On 10/6/05, James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the video is here... http://www.slopeaddiction.com/ Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Trade: Volz Wing Maxx (analog)
I have 2 lightly used Volz Wing Maxx servos that I need to trade for high-quality servos that will work for the R/E in my Fusion. Details on the Wing Maxx here: http://www.rc-soar.com/hardsoft/volz.htm A picture of my servos: http://homepage.mac.com/emersunn/4sale/PhotoAlbum25.html Note: Cannot use JRs due to centering problems with my EVO synth TX. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale: Clearing out the workshop . . .
. . . and auctioning it all at once: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6002239149 Stock up on those xmas stocking stuffers for your flyin' buddies! Thanks for the bandwidth, Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looks like the usual bad weather for Visalia's Fall Festival :-(
Dude, don't talk about the weather, you will jinx the whole f0*king thing. I saw Daryl fly the new, improved Insanity yesterday - nothing to worry about - just another thermal on an ant fart land on a dime ship. It's all in the thumbs, so just bring your old Genteel Lady. Paul sitting this one out Emerson See you next year at Visalia . . . On 9/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, Here we go again, every year the same thing, those damn blue skies, warm temps and light winds,,, I have no idea how I get sucked into spending good money and burning up vacation time for this thing Must be the vendors, competitors, food, friends and deals... And the weather too I guess, I'll be arriving on Friday afternoon, get into Fresno about 1pm. Have a spare bed in my Suite at the Holiday if someone is looking to split a room. I check out on Sunday. Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] singing wings
Fitting my sailplane with an iPod as we speak. Not really understanding what's going on here, is the noise creating sound turbulators across the whole wing surface? Works on small, slow aircraft . . . On 8/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings! Now this looks most interesting: 22% increase in lift for small aircraft. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7867feedId=online-news_rss20 (Word-wrap mangled link repaired.) That's an interesting article, and an especially interesting description of a stall: The air can no longer remain attached to the wing and it tends to break off in large sheets..., says Ian Salmon, an engineer with Qantas Airways in Sydney, who conducted the research while at the University of New South Wales, also in Sydney. But Salmon has found that certain frequencies of sound help air stay attached to the wing. Does that really make sense? I wonder. I don't think I've ever heard a wing stall described quite like that before. Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/ _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: Thermik XL [WAS: Re: MVSA OVSS #3, Gateway Open]
Richard Burnoski and some of the SOAR southsiders were F3J towing a huge 4m ThermikXL, ROG style! Did they do this right off the ground or use a dolly? I recently purchased one of these big birds, and was hoping someone out there in RCSE land could answer a few questions: 1) CG? (I know it is a huge pain to put this monster together and measure it, so don't bother answering unless you happen to have it written down somewere). 2) Towhook position? 3) Launching a big glider tips? (perhaps also an XC pilot could answer this) This plane is impressive and I have invested a lot in it. I am experiencing major maiden flight cowardliness. Pics here: http://homepage.mac.com/emersunn/PhotoAlbum11.html . . . where I refer to it as the BMFG ;) Even if no one answers the maiden will be this Saturday, weather permitting. Many thanks in advance, Paul www.casl.net PS No I do not have the manual. Just some sparse info in Czech. On 6/20/05, James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MVSA joined the OVSS series last season, and this season was their first attempt at running their contest in traditional OVSS style, seeded man on man. I have traveled away every weekend for a soaring event in the past month, and working countless hours during the week at my business to try to keep up. June is so freekin' crazy, I am so glad we moved the SOAR OVSS contest to September. I had plenty of reasons not to go, but I am sort of crazy about this hobby, and when it comes to OVSS seeded MOM contests, well... they are hard for me to miss because I enjoy them so much. Even as I worked through the day on Friday I wasn't sure I would go, but at the end of the day I threw a couple of ICON's, toolbox, clothes, and my winch in the back of my truck, just in case MVSA needed a spare. I got on the road at 8:22pm and was in bed at the hotel in St. Louis by 1am. O'Fallon sod farm and the MVSA bring back memories. In 1999 the Gateway Open was my first away soaring contest, the first I had been to other than a SOAR club contest. I entered as a Sportsman, and I was flying a Stork 1 with JR radio gear. That weekend back in 1999 I had my first contest wins, actually back to back Sat. and Sun. and the weekend overall for the Sportsman class. Mark Nankivil, CD and my SOAR club mates all declared my Sportsman cherry was broken that weekend. When I arrived at the field it was as beautiful as I remembered it, tightly mowed turf that looked more like carpet than grass, wide open flying with the Anheuser-Busch farm bordering one side that was the ultimate don't land out zone. Eight winches lined the field with the batteries backed up with a generator. Nice setup. The new popoff / line break rule was effect here as well, except that the penalty was upped to 120 seconds because of the longer task times flown. Runway landings, haven't flown those in awhile and they were fun on the turf. Marc Gellart, CD, started the day with a 11min task, and flew 13min tasks for the rest of the day. Big air all day, cycling big sink in between. A couple of rounds in I asked Marc if if might be better to back the task times down to 10 so we could get more rounds in, (because we were all maxing) but Marc kept to his guns and he was right, the day overdeveloped and there were some massive burials. I was in the first group and got caught in a burial with a number of good pilots, we were sent back 2 entire flight groups... it was probably Brian with that AVA. 8-) Flyin' Brian put on a show with that AVA, he was basically limited to a downwind game and he smoked us all bad. Not only did he win, but the margin was huge. He had to make his landings like everyone else, he showed everyone that he knew his model well. I was walking off the field and someone from the pits asked what it was like for an ICON flier to be beat by an AVA, I replied that if felt the same as any other model beating me, but Brian earned it and I couldn't want it to go to a nicer guy. Karl Miller and I flew for an hour or so post contest on Saturday testing out different parts of the expansive sod farm, I knew we both were thinking about Sunday. Richard Burnoski and some of the SOAR southsiders were F3J towing a huge 4m Thermik XL, ROG style! A group of us went to a great smokehouse for dinner and stuffed down ribs and beverages. Sunday brought on another great day of weather, and a few more pilots in attendance. You really had to make the correct choice of where you were heading off launch and commit to it, and specking out was easy. Choosing unwisely placed you on landing approach in less than 3 minutes. Marc started the day with a 9, and went to 11's for the rest of the day. The flying was very competitive and not a lot of movement in the top two flight groups during the day. This is the second OVSS contest in a row that once the last flight was flown that the pilots in that group all congratulate each
Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?
I recently setup top driven flaps and noticed two things: A little trickier to setup, especailly if there is a secondary TE spar and the servos are mounted to the servo cover (are they all this way?). The benefit of the top driven is the linkage is pushing on the fat part of the horn, instead of pulling on the small end of the horn, which may reduce the stress on the horn when you drag the flaps across the rocks on landing ;-) [called desert skegs here in Arizona]. But this benefit is minimal if you have good horns. I would go with bottom driven if I had to choose. I really would go with RDS if I had better building skills and the parts/plane to do it. On 6/22/05, Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I see there were plenty replies after I wrote this but anyhow... The name is Martin Hepperle he has a nice article about drag and linkage http://www.mh-aerotools.de/ Direct link http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/linkage.htm It might seem small but with the small differences in todays models the drag is very important. Might not be that important to a slow TD model. But for F3B/F on top level The linkage on the Superior/Brio is not super. There are solutions that are much better but most of them with more drag. But it is hidden and gives and drag advantage when flying fast (and also zoom). It is offcourse up to each customer to build a better linkage. Personally I change out the flap horns to more secure ones in 2mm carbon (because I land VERY hard). It comes down to that Samba wants a ready solution that works and with small drag. Customer just screws the horn in the correct angle and all is set to go (or atleast the customer will ahcive the 90 degree flap etc. without reinventing the wheel). Hilsen (Regards) Jojo www.grini.no Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:24:15 -0700 From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: top or bottom driven ? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi all, I've been asked this a few times, and I give my opinion, but i want to see what you guys have to say. What gets better mechanical advantage, top or bottom driven linkage, and how much does the drag of bottom driven really effect things, if any ? My vote goes towards bottom driven. I can always get the throws I want, easy to set up and adjust, and gives a solid control surface. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 9 Days To Go
BTW This is the 2nd leg of the revived Triad. Details here: http://www.rcsoaring.com/triad On 6/16/05, Dudley Dufort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are only nine days until Spring Fling 2005. The entry period is drawing to a close. Entries postmarked after June 20, 2005 will be returned unless you specify that you want them held for next year. www.svss.orgWhere it's all about the fun RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Kill switch for winch
I replied to Ed, but forgot to share with the list: Our club uses a knife switch with a lanyard attached to the switch that sits by the retriever operator. Looks like this one, although ours moves sideways and not up and down: http://tinyurl.com/bffb4 Very easy to grab and yank the lanyard to power off quickly in a real emergency. On 6/3/05, Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all that replied. I have one on order now and should be all fixed up shortly. Ed Jett - Original Message - From: Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [RCSE] soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] Kill switch for winch What kind of switch do you use as a manual kill switch for winches? Where do you get them? Be as specific as you can with your answer. Thanks in Advance, Ed Jett RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Kill switch for winch
The switch should open away from the other teminal, naturally. Ideally the knife switch should not be long enough to reach the other terminal. On 6/3/05, Tim Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen knife switches attached to the top of the batteries on winches before and I too was concerned about the explosion hazzard until I observed that the lanyard was nylon. No worries about sparks when in the event of a short the lanyard melts! Tim - Original Message - From: Norman E. Timbs, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Paul Emerson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RCSE' soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Kill switch for winch Guys, Please don't put knife switches on top of your batteries. When you really need to use them is the wrong time to make a nice big spark near the battery. Battery explosions are awful. Use a sealed switch. Norm PBSS -Original Message- From: Paul Emerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:20 AM To: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] Kill switch for winch I replied to Ed, but forgot to share with the list: Our club uses a knife switch with a lanyard attached to the switch that sits by the retriever operator. Looks like this one, although ours moves sideways and not up and down: http://tinyurl.com/bffb4 Very easy to grab and yank the lanyard to power off quickly in a real emergency. On 6/3/05, Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all that replied. I have one on order now and should be all fixed up shortly. Ed Jett - Original Message - From: Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [RCSE] soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] Kill switch for winch What kind of switch do you use as a manual kill switch for winches? Where do you get them? Be as specific as you can with your answer. Thanks in Advance, Ed Jett RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] A/T RD8000 Radio Help
Don't know if this applies, but your e-mail reminded me of this document I received from Airtronics: RD8000 Procedure for Obtaining Separate FLAP and AILERON Servos with CROW for Sailplanes: First select the etc Channel using the FUNCTION CH + key. Press the Function \/ Down key to scroll down to SPOIR (Spoiron) and make it ACTive using the INC+/YES key. Aileron output will be on Channels #2 and #6 servos. Elevator is on Channel #1 and Rudder on Channel #4 servo. Press the END key once to return to STW in the etc Channel at the top of the menu. Press the Function \/ Down key and select C-MIX 1. Use the INC +/YES key to set MAS to TH (throttle). Press the Function \/ Down key once and set SLV (Slave) to GE (Gear). Press the Function \/ Down key and set TG mixing to +100%. Note that this value determines the throw of the Channel #5 Flap Servo. Place the C-MIX 1 Switch located above the Throttle Gimbal to the ON (upper) position and leave it there at all times. Press the END key once to return to the STW screen. Use the CH key and select the G (Gear) Channel. Place the Landing Gear switch which is located on the top supper left of the transmitter towards you, and leave it there at all times. Press the Function \/ Down key to select EPA. Check to see that it reads 125%. If it does not, set it using the DEC-/NO key. You can use the Gear Servo REV(Reverse) to reverse the direction of Channel #5 Flap servo. Press the CH key and select TH (Throttle) EPA. Place the Throttle stick at the extreme LOW position and set a value of 100%. Move the Throttle stick to HIGH and set a value of 100%. Note that these are starting values. The Throttle EPA determines the throw of Channel #3 Flap Servo. You can use the Throttle servo REV(Reverse) to reverse the direction of the Channel #3 Flap Servo. Press the END key once. Use the CH + key to select the etc Channel. Next use the Function \/ Down key and scroll to CR:LA (CROW Left Aileron). Set a trial value of 50% using the INC+/YES key. Press the Function \/ Down key once and select CR:RA (CROW Right Aileron). Set the same trial value. Press the END key once. Setup is complete. Fine-tune your setup using the C-MIX 1 screen, TH Channel Screen, and Servo Reversing as necessary. can be used for Tow release, or Retracting Landing Gear on a scale sailplane. Jack R. Albrecht AIRTRONICS TECHNICAL SUPPORT 01 April 2003 On 5/25/05, Lee Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to help a friend set up a sailplane on a Airtronics RD8000 radio. Trying to set up for two servos on flaps. I mixed throt. to #5 @ 100% and got movement but #5 only moves a little bit? no same as throt. I tried it to #7 also with same result? What am I doing wrong?? seems like mixer should work to handle this?? Looking at this letter It just occurd to me? should I be mixing #5 or #7 to throttle??? Lee in Nevada Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site!
[RCSE] Receivers Tested
Is there a way to test the quality of a receiver using some kind of electronic measuring device - and has it been done? I am looking for what's best and want to know if the data is available. The reason being is all receiver data I have found is wholly subjective - X brand is better, I never had a problem or X brand receiver has the best range I have ever seen. Sometimes these praises come from manufacturers or distributors and which can further complicate the truth. Field range tests are dependant on so many variables that the what works for you theory is not very helpful to anyone else. Has anyone ever sat at their workbench and measured in a controlled, quantifiable way? Who's got the tools to do so? Thanks, Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 9 and 12 ch synth rx FS
Is this the new RX-9 / RX-12 SYNTH DS IPD from Multiplex? On 5/3/05, Tom Broeski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 9 and a 12 ch synth receiver for sale: 9 is $130 (list is $215) and 12 is $190 (list is $309) Tom Broeski 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Hobbico Frequency Checkers
You know what would be cool - if you took one apart and integrated it into your club's freq board, so each board slot would have it's own LED light indicating if it was open or not (but do NOT use it as a subtitiute for putting your card/pin up there). Shouldn't be too hard to wire that up, and cheap too. You could also integrate the antenna (or a custom long range antenna) and a solar power source on top of your freq board and have it always be on. A project for next winter . . . On 4/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, Our club ordered two, one for our freq board and one to have in the sit'n area. I just put two on back order for myself. (heck if they are good enough to have one, always get two :-) The backorder list has gotta be huge! Here's the link to Tower's advert, there is a $10 off special on orders over $100 (type 010A3 in where it says submit special number or such .. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?I=LXJUP2P=7 and don't forget the external extra range antenna http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?I=LXKHV4P=V All up for two $127ish plus shipping when they are sent. Good deal I think :-) Gordy Louisville today Wisconsin next week, Wichita the following...the maybe Kansas City RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SOLD: JR servos and more
Thanks for the bandwidth. On 4/12/05, Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am selling as a group: 3 JR 341's good condition used 1 JR 351 good condition used 1 Hitec 205BB servo good condition used 1 NIB Hitec Supreme 8ch + shift, no crystal See this picture of it all if you have questions: http://www.public.asu.edu/~emersunn/images/DSC3.JPG All servos have new leads expertly soldered on by someone who once made wire harnesses for the Boeing Apache 64D Longbow. (ok, it was me) All servos tested with a Sirius electronics Servo Driver/Analyzer. (No mine is not for sale - but I highly recommend one) Best offer by Wednesday night will get it shipped on Thursday. Please make an offer, it could be your lucky day! Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: JR servos and more. Make an offer!
I am selling as a group: 3 JR 341's good condition used 1 JR 351 good condition used 1 Hitec 205BB servo good condition used 1 NIB Hitec Supreme 8ch + shift, no crystal See this picture of it all if you have questions: http://www.public.asu.edu/~emersunn/images/DSC3.JPG All servos have new leads expertly soldered on by someone who once made wire harnesses for the Boeing Apache 64D Longbow. (ok, it was me) All servos tested with a Sirius electronics Servo Driver/Analyzer. (No mine is not for sale - but I highly recommend one) Best offer by Wednesday night will get it shipped on Thursday. Please make an offer, it could be your lucky day! Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: SWC 2006 Date Changed
Due to the overwhelmingly positive feedback, the Southwest Winter Classic will now be held on the second weekend in Feburary. (see original note below for the reasons why) Registration for the 2006 SWC will begin shortly after the Visalia event. The 2006 date will be the weekend Feb 11-12. Mark your calendars now! On Mar 22, 2005 3:11 PM, Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow pilots, CASL is considering moving the SWC date to the second weekend in February, due to the fact that our event conflicts with the Northwest R/C show in Puyallup, the Superbowl and the Phoenix Open. The NW RC show costs us some vendors, the Superbowl costs us volenteers, and the Phoenix Open is just a traffic and hotel room nightmare. We are very aware that some of you make plans for our event well in advance, so we are tring to get a feel for the impact of the proposed change. Please respond by this Friday so if we decide to make the change we can announce it ASAP. Sorry if you are receiving two or more copies of this e-mail, but I am trying to make sure all past contestants get this message. PS the dates for 2006, if we decide to change, would be Feb 11-12. Thank you for your time, Paul Emerson CASL board member and webmaster www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] fuselages radio range, Antenna Stuff
friendly curiosity I thought RX antennas were tuned to a frequency by being a specific length. So wouldn't adding wire put it out of tune? Or is more wire always better because it has more surface area to receive? Not even remotely an engineer, Paul On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:22:35 -0800, Larry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What has been discussed here is the Antenna. If you look at different Receivers, you will find that they will have different length wire for a Antenna. Some receiver have coils on the board going into the matching stage of the receiver. This is where they match up the Antenna to the first stage of Amplification. Some just go into the matching input and there they are compensated for. So just looking at the wire and adding 1/2 or 1/4 the length to the wire onto it and thinking your doing things correctly, your wrong in that respect. But just the fact that you are adding wire, that is a good thing. The better the receiver can see the Tx Ant. the better it works. Just like what Gordy say's. No signal no movey :-) If your Fuselage is made up with carbon tube or a fuse that has carbon weaved in with Kevlar or Fiberglass its going to bock the receive signal by some degree. Just think of it as sliding your receive Ant. wire down a copper tube. It won't receive much, but if you have some that dangles out the end it will get more signal maybe enough to do the job. Its not at a certain wave length that has to be there to work. We are talking Receiver now. Transmitters is another story. The RF signal from a Transmitter travels at the speed of light. It is crossing the receiver wire Antenna and is creating a small AC voltage. The more wire you have the more voltage is being created on that wire.(SIGNAL!!!) You will get to a point that the resisents will be to hi to be over come by the voltage created. We are now talking Long wire!! Transmitters on the other hand have a different type of problem with the length of the wire. If its not tuned correctly to the proper length there is a reflected signal going back to the electronics from where it came from. This reduces the over all output power to the Transmitting Ant. The bouncing back signal is out of phase with the one coming out of the electronics. It cancels it out by a small amount or and can damage the output of the transmitter if its a large amount. Most people remember about the Tuning of a Antenna and about the reflected part back when CB radios were the in thing Good Buddy A bad Ant, open or shorted coax would burn up the output circuit. I just add wire to the receiver Antenna and just let it extended out the back. Longer is better. Problem solved with carbon fuselage Free info here no Lab expense required. Just my 45 years of experience working in Radios for a living with some EE Collage studies, Trade School Grad from Devry, and a FCC license to work on High Power radios,Military Ground and Aircraft schooling. I'm still working in it. Larry Taylor KF6JBG CD for the Visalia Fall Soaring Festival 2005 Oct 1st 2nd Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: [RCSE] fuselages radio range They say that common sense is uncommon and I am as guilty as everyone else in this department, so like everyone else..I went in search of 'excaliber' the 'better' brand RX for use in my Pikes. The Pikes have the Carbon Kevlar burlap weave fuse that has become so popular and causes us to have to get our antenna's away from the fuse, not just outside of it. I was searching and trying all sorts of RX's... Some said, oh this brand PCM has no problemswhich of course means that the servos don't move when the RX is not getting a signallike non PCM RXs...the condition is masked...and that works well enough to win contests and keep the model safe for the most part...but it doesn't 'fix' the fuselage from blocking the signal. I stopped searching when our number one radio guy said to meGordy regardless of the components and how they are glued to the board in a trick receiverif they don't 'see' a signal they don't have nuthin to work with. The Fuselage blocks the signal, the fuse doesn't interfere with the RX. No signal no movey :-) The three choices which include 'hold' and programmable hold in the Shadow are a BIG deal. When I had 14mins left on my New Zealand LSF4 one hour task and my Tranny started beeping, we attempted to do a quick charge, hoping the model would just float around for 10 seconds or so...but no dice as soon as I turned off it would go into a total death spiral. Hold function would have been a nice feature there :-) No receiver can think things up by itself, it just follows orders and if no orders get to it...well you get the point. :-) Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane
[RCSE] SWC 2006 Proposed Date Change
Fellow pilots, CASL is considering moving the SWC date to the second weekend in February, due to the fact that our event conflicts with the Northwest R/C show in Puyallup, the Superbowl and the Phoenix Open. The NW RC show costs us some vendors, the Superbowl costs us volenteers, and the Phoenix Open is just a traffic and hotel room nightmare. We are very aware that some of you make plans for our event well in advance, so we are tring to get a feel for the impact of the proposed change. Please respond by this Friday so if we decide to make the change we can announce it ASAP. Sorry if you are receiving two or more copies of this e-mail, but I am trying to make sure all past contestants get this message. PS the dates for 2006, if we decide to change, would be Feb 11-12. Thank you for your time, Paul Emerson CASL board member and webmaster www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Good point. It is overkill, and as soon as the magnets are separated a little bit, they lose most functionality. Also remember that these magnets are (relatively) easy to slide apart, so if the plane part in question is sheard off - it will just slide away. Their real force is felt when separating them in a perpendicular fashion. I have been toying with the idea of using them as canopy hold-downs, but will they affect the componants in proximity to the magnets (RX, servos, etc . . )? Again, I have used them on a 100 3 piece, lightweight sailplane wing. But I did use a little tape too - to cover the gap and relieve my fear of there being nothing but magnetic force holding them together. On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:44:58 -0800, Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite characteristic. Thus, to make up for the exponential drop in force when displaced; the force when attached must be over designed. Possibly leading to other limitations which must be accommodated. Just a thought. Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
I have use these on a smaller (100 span) model 3 piece wing. Just get the mixed pack from: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/ And epoxy the best size in face to face with a piece of wax paper between. Takes a little faith, though. On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:35:08 -0800, Steve Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more question: anyone tried using large rare earth magnets as wing retention devices on wings with plug-in wing panels? I know that these are routinely used for hatch and canopy hold-downs and similar, just wondering if people have tried them in place of snap-type wing locks or hook band retention systems? Steve RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Jef Raskin Dies at 61
Jef also designed the greatest TX never built: http://jef.raskincenter.org/published/transmitter.html And you may remember the all-cardboard sailplane he produced, the Western Wind: http://jef.raskincenter.org/pictures/westernwind.html On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:31:42 -0600, James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW... I hadn't heard this yet, RIP. This was a very interesting guy, I always enjoyed reading his website. http://jef.raskincenter.org/home/index.html At 07:11 PM 2/27/2005, Phil Townsend wrote: Jef was the very first guy to build, fly and sell an all foamie and tape aircraft called the Anabat. He sold a bunch of Anabats. White foam and tape. Jef lived on the coast of San Fran. Jef was also one of the early Macintosh team and helped build it's operating system. RIP RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
A violation of Title 39, United States Code, Section 3009? http://www.usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/merch.htm I assume those who received the DVD are obligated by the fine print in their AMA membership - or perhaps they never un-checked an innocent looking box during online renewal (Allow our partners to contact you? default=yes) Also - it is the Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video but no soaring content? Not very ultimate, me thinks. The large print giveth and the small print taketh away - Tom Waits RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc...
Slowly coming back to me . . . I was approached by someone at Visalia (lost that contact info) who wanted to represent the 2nd leg (I assume it was the Sacramento club). If all we need to do as the first leg is normalize the scores and forward them we can do the triad this year. If that person is out there ping me off list and I will get you the normalized scores. Could someone at Visalia verify the location of the trophy? Paul www.casl.net PS I like the regional over national. Very few have the resources to travel that far. There are no good thermals east of the Rockies anyway ;^P On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:22:25 -0800 (PST), Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Triad was a real neat concept. If memory serves me correctly, it started out with the SWC, the Rose Bowl 2 day, then Visalia representing the last leg. It was awarded to the top scoring pilot over the three comps, after scores from each contest were normalized to 1,000. It has died a slow death, with the death of the Pasadena club. A few clubs tried to keep it alive, ISS held the second leg, then the guys in Sac tried to keep it alive. But I don't think anyone reported the results to the proper person at Visalia, to award the trophy. I made the trek to all the contests a couple of times in search of the title, only to have the trophy not be awarded. It may have been moved, but the last time I saw the trophy (it's a perpetual trophy - and it's just awful looking) it was in the trailer at Visalia. I dropped it off and ran It's in a huge wooden box, very well protected. I'd love to see it resurrected. Shows consistency, amongst the top western soaring pilots. D __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] . . . recent projects, SWC
Getting closed to finished on my Allegro Lite (after 14 months of hard labor): http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/allegrolite2m/markdrela_allegrolite2m.htm Also restoring/modifying and old Frank Weston WACO Two: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186540stc=1 Also getting ready to bag some 132 wings to make a homebrew TD ship. With the help of some club members. And the usual ongoing repairing of broken things . . . PS good crowd warming up for the SWC today in Phoenix. It was breezy and cloudy, but the sky was full of planes and no major problems. We have about 160 pilots signed up this year. Should be fun. I will report in tomorrow if I have time. On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:58:25 -1000, Brian Courtice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next project I do is going to be a wingeron. I've been infatuated with wingerons ever since Harley published the Orca way back when. I plan to push my own buildings skills envelope on this one, because I will be giving vacuum bagging a try for the first time. The plane isn't even started yet, but I've been doing some extensive RD to get ready. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324367highlight=ultron -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] WTF is PLAXO?
Avoid it at all costs. Same category as a virus or spyware, IMVWEO. On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:57:45 -0600, Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a nuisance to everybody in your address book. It could be mildly useful for the individual using it unless aggravates friends/customers like it does me. - EJ - Original Message - From: d. o. darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:33 AM Subject: [RCSE] WTF is PLAXO? I found these links: Read and decide for yourself! http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1644423,00.asp http://www.meskill.net/archives/000467.html http://blog.lextext.com/blog/_archives/2004/3/23/28816.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
Just complexity on top of the same functionality? This is new era - from Jeff Raskin, creator of the Macintosh computer and master of Humane [Human] interface devices: http://humane.sourceforge.net/published/transmitter.html On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:38:05 -0800, Lex Mierop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Limits in R/C Soaring - a proposed discussion
- What is the duration limit for a pure thermal (no slope assist) duration flight? Well theoretically . . . . With unlimited funds and unlimited technology including semi-autonomous flight, solar-or-otherwise recharging power system, and night thermals - indefinitely ;-) With current technologies, good weather, great batteries, good eyes and great endurance - from sunrise to sunset. Roughly 15 hours on June 21st at North American latitudes! A catheter and support team would also be needed. My bag needs to be emptied. Aww, I just did that. ;-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SWC
It's not on the website yet, but there will also be HLG golf, HLG, Slo-stick combat, and I think a night-time flying wing pylon race. Good food and good people - better avoid the whole mess so Bill can place ;) Paul www.casl.net On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:41:45 -0800, Bill Malvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far it looks like entries for the SWC in Phoenix (well OK, western Globe) are not all that robust yet. Which is good in my book. I want to thank all of you. PLEASE, if you are thinking about coming, DON'T. As it stands right now, if there are enough no-shows (say 18 to 25), I stand a pretty good chance of getting a top 10 finish!! Gas prices are pretty high, the weather in Phoenix can be touch and go in February (will it be 72 or 74 today??), and really, it's just another silly contest. I strongly urge ALL of you to stay home with your families. Enjoy some quality time. Bond with the kids. Mow the lawn. For me, the less the merrier to be sure!! For you spiteful ba$tards out there who will surely want to deprive me of my higher than deserved finish, you can go here to enter: http://www.public.asu.edu/~vansanfo/casl/swc.html Of course, I will place an old Irish curse upon you and your house for doing so. And will certainly NOT share any of my beer with you. But at least you cannot say I did not warn you!!! I mean it's just another one of those boring, Launch, Fly, Land things. How many of THOSE can you do before you fall into a coma?? Hoping not to see any of you soon. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Scale fighters at Visalia
Could someone provide details on the 2 small scale WWII fighters flying Friday or Saturday after hours? They were very cool and quiet! Thanks again CVRC. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] CVRC Webpage Gone??
Could someone in CVRC post the scores to this list? In text or as an attachment . . . Had a great time - my first (and now my first annual) trip to Visalia. The CVRC guys put on a great contest, the Sat. BBQ was outstanding, the winches long and strong, the field was unusual to me as it had grass and we don't have that luxury here (except for the SWC), nice to meet pilots from all over - and Gordy who _is_ from all over. Paul www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Is an LSF# - still an LSF 'Task' if you use electronic help?
This argument is akin to the one I had with my father about the virtues of fly-fishing vs. bait fishing. Let me paraphrase his (somewhat vulgar) assessment: Looks the same on the plate and looks the same in the crapper. Or as I would like to put it: Level V is Level V is Level V. - Original Message - From: Klaus Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:58:35 +1000 Subject: Re: [RCSE] Is an LSF# - still an LSF 'Task' if you use electronic help? To: Cal Posthuma [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the windrifter low tech?? They are just new on the market here. (just kidding) I don't know of anyone who uses 'aides' down here. No skegs, varios etc. Not many Level V's either. :)) Wow Cal - your signature line is longer than your message. Klaus Weiss Sydney, Australia. Thunder from Downunder. Bum from the bush - (oops sorry, I should say 'brush' for you US folks.) LSF lll http://www.hsl.org.au http://www.users.bigpond.com/kkw1 Cal wrote I did an hour the other day without a sniffer and used a Windrifter. How about that for low tech? Cal Posthuma President of West Michigan Soaring Society Michigan Soaring League Secretary LSF Coordinator for WMSS AMA LSFV LSF 2997, 6718, 7740 LSF VV+III LSF Officer 1992-2000 Former Secretary, Treasurer, and President AMA Leader Member and Contest Director AMA District 7 Web Page: www.ALTELCO.NET/~calplsf/index.html Web Page Club: www.rcsoaring.org Web Page MSL: www.rcsoaring.org/msl Phone: 616-997-1905 Cell: 616-240-3972 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] In Chicago this weekend . . .
. . . from sunny Arizona. Is there any flying going on? Will be downstate later this week. I know I'm a week late for all the big events that's how my job schedule works out. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Looking For Digital Camera
For photographing Soaring action, I would make #1 the shot speed. Some digital cameras have a noticable delay from when you press the button to when it takes the picture. So when Gordy is DSing the rotor on a parked minivan- You might miss the shot where it goes through the windshield. I have an older Sony digital camera and the delay is annoying when taking picures of my boys - by the time the shutter clicks, they have run off. If you find one that is quick on the click, let me know. The boys will wonder when they grow up why I only have pictures of the back of their heads. On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:39:02 -0600, Howard Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, Set a price cap and get the best camera that you can for that price. Consider in the following order: 1. Resolution - in RAW megapixels 2. OPTICAL zoom range (digital zoom means nothing) 3. Media format (Compact Flash is the cheapest - but that's changing) 4. LCD Size + features such as does it swivel to allow you to shoot from awkward angles? 5. Battery type /capacity -- BTW proprietary batteries are not extremely expensive if you shop around. You may also consider: EASE OF USE!!! - Owners manuals are available at the manufacturers website. Physical size / Weight Focus range (macro) Flash power/modes (redeye reduction...) Connectivity (USB/FireWire/Video) Modes (Movie/Scenes...) Image Formats Playback capability Expandability - auxilary lenses and accessories Use the web to research. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ http://www.steves-digicams.com/ Cruise the Yahoo forums for the SPECIFIC camera you want to find out what people like/dislike about the cameras you're considering. For instance you'll find a lot of griping on the Nikon CP5700 forum about low light focusing. Once you've chosen a camera, you can search the web for the best price. Merchants on Ebay are GREAT - just be sure to check feedback! Watch out for the Broadway crowd!!! BH photo is a reliable medium-priced mail-order merchant that you can ALWAYS trust. If you have any more questions and want to ask direct - please do my friend. BTW the 5700 is an AWESOME camera, but is a bit delicate. I use a Nikon CP4300 to do what you are describing and it's pretty cheap for a 4 MP camera. Probably adequate for your needs and you can pocket a bunch of money. I've got lots of pix on my website: http://www.msh-co.com Of course I use a D100 for the serious stuff. GOOD LUCK! Mark -Original Message- From: Pat McCleave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:27 PM To: RCSE; F3F; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Looking For Digital Camera Hi Guys, I am in the market to buy a digital camera and was wondering if you could give me any suggestions on what to look for. My price range is in the $300-$600. My primary wants are to be able to take pictures of planes and pilots at the slope and thermal field and to be able to take detailed pictures of planes I may want to sell on eBay and RCSE etc. Any help will be greatly appreciated. See Ya, Pat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. *** This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
