Re: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight
A champion will recognize a champions deed Well said, we where all in ahhh about Peter's performance!!! Peter B -Original message- From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:48:31 -0400 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect...and Peter Goldsmith was piloting. I said to Cody I think he just fluttered an elevator...yep...I see flaps going in and out. And this was a National Championship flight, last round, and Peter was sniffing around a top spot. It's the last round thing which all competitors know all to well. The air was no gimme, with 30% of the flight times not being achieved. After Cody landed I said, I've got to watch this. This appears to be a REAL championship flight! Pilots in Peters group were not happy, many falling out, yet here he was and his PERFECT ...appearing to be guiding this object...barely in control...flaps going in, flaps going out...oddly circling..appering to have half flap in all the time...you know...no elevator, hunting, falling, rising...maybe 5%-10% control! No one on the ground knew what was really wrong he had actually blown out on the over zealous launch and was hitting a well timed thermal, the elevator servo, and BOTH aileron servos... yet I heard the beep, beep, beep of Peters digital trims being pushed to the max, trying to urge the PERFECT to do its job. So here was the PERFECT, coming up to 9 minutes...all other competitors in his group had fallen from the sky, and Goldsmith was inventing a new class...F.R.FLAP RUDDER! And getting his time! Then it appeared there was trouble as the model kind of started galloping around the sky below 100 feet, trying to set up for landing, the controlling became more difficult...that ground thing appearing in its future, spot landing, all coming into play. Flap rudder has its limitations! No he didn't get his landing, BUT he DID land within the field boundaries, overflying the slot by 25 seconds (10:25) and qualifying the flight. Amazingly, we later found out, had WON the group! Most others would have tried to land the injured bird, and probably crashed it, but Peter hung tough, literally a National Championship position on the line, his years of aerobatic training coming into to play. As our modern day computer mixing radios were not up to the task, it was in his thumbs, his mind, and his judgment that was getting the job done. Yes, I know Daryl had a wild one with a blown out stab flapping in the breeze at the Worlds, but at least there was some assemblance of order...all servos were working! This flight secured his 3rd place overall National finish, and will be a flight remembered by all who witnessed it for a long time. When we looked over the PERFECT on the ground, the culprit was a nylon geared elevator servo that had stripped from launch pressure...the elevator kinda flopping around, and then noticing that even the control horns on the aileron servos were broken and floppingYes this was a National Championship flight. Peter was giddy after the flight, also stunned and amazed at what had just occurred. We stood there dumbfounded, looking at his wounded PERFECT, basically agreeing this can't fly. He won 3rd overall...AMAZING!!! I just had a moment to reflect on this Championship flight! Well done Peter! Skip - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect
Re: [RCSE] American support/F3J trip to Turkey
I felt the same way last year at the F3b Worlds in Switzerland, the kind of feeling and memories no money in the world can byeand I was no even a pilot. Peter Baumeler -Original message- From: Richard Burnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:21:52 -0400 To: 'RCSE' soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] American support/F3J trip to Turkey American support I as well as the USA team have been overwhelmed with all your support. Both you guys that invested in the team wares as well as the manufactures who donated soaring goods to the raffle. Some interesting first time team reflections as I awaited my name to be called to fly. I was never nervous at all... The years and years of practice prepared me for what I needed to do. But as my name was called to fly, a certain feeling of pride came over me that I never felt before I knew that I wasnt flying my flights just for me and the USA team of seniors, but I was flying for you guys too The good old U.S. of A. That feeling was a bit intense! I truly just tried to do my best and not do anything stupid! Thanks again for supporting the TEAM,, Richard Burnoski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Ac/Dc
I am looking for a new AC/DC charger to charge my stuff. ( not lipo) Any good ones out there?...bad ones to avoid?? Pete in Delaware
[RCSE] Paul Clarke
Paging Skypilot. Hey Paul I need to talk with you Best regards Peter Williams. New Zealand
Re: [RCSE] Icon2 First Flight Reports
pics.pics - Original Message - From: Philip A Renaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:36 AM Subject: [RCSE] Icon2 First Flight Reports Well the weather finally cooperated and we flew the prototype Icon 2 on Sunday 3 Feb. This is a big airplane, 1,258 sq in, 150 in span. Radio equipment consisted of my trusty Futaba R148DF receiver, JR DS368 rudder, elevator and flap servos, and JR DS168 thin wing aileron servos and a 4 cell NiMH AA size 1700 mah battery pack. With about 3 ozs of lead in the nose the prototype came in at 79 oz ready to fly which put the wing loading at a hair over 9.1 oz per sq ft. Weather was heavy overcast, cool for Arizona (52 degrees F), very light wind. Field elevation at our flying field is 2500 ft MSL. A standard 12 volt winch with retriever and 250 lb test braided line was used to launch the airplane. Distance from the winch to the turn around was shorter than normal, about 170 meters, due to the need to work around some grass sprinklers that had been running all night. We elected not to launch the airplane for the first flight using the winch rather than risk damage during a hand launch. The first launch was spectacular to say the least! Using 10 degrees of camber with the tow hook about 1/8 of an inch ahead of the CG and moderate hold back on the winch, the airplane climbed absolutely vertically out of the launcher's hands. The launch was straight with slight wing bend so I kept my foot on the winch pedal through the climb and bucket. The zoom was good and overall launch altitude was much better than normal considering the shortness of the line and lack of wind. While I didn't have my data logger installed for the flight I would guess the launch altitude at around 700 feet based on previous eyeball calibrations with the data logger. The first flight was spent checking out controllability, elevator trim settings, CG location, crow (butterfly) settings, etc. As a result, I wasn't really looking for lift and, given the weather conditions, didn't expect to find any lift. In spite of that duration on the first flight was about 8 min 50 sec. The airplane slowed down very well for landing with no tendency to fall off on a wing. During the course of the day we put a total of 7 flights on two airplanes (my prototype and a pre-production airplane) My general impressions regarding the airplane are as follows. I was surprised with how nimble the airplane is in flight. This airplane doesn't exhibit the wing heaviness of other large sailplanes. Roll control and general flying qualities are very similar to the Pike Perfect. Secondly the airplane is responsive to rudder. Using coordinate rudder and ailerons I was able to perform some very tight (about 3 wingspan diameter) thermal turns. When forced the airplane will tip stall but recovery is quick. We intentionally spun the airplane and again recovery is quick and hands off. As you might expect, the airplane has great legs and can really move out if you're looking for lift. While we weren't particularly searching for lift on Sunday, we did encounter a few very light patches of lift during the day. The airplane seemed to signal these well and a couple of tight turns in the lift produced solid climb indications. Our focus this last weekend was verifying structural strength and general airworthiness. All launches were performed pedal to the metal on the winch. Wing bend never approached any areas of concern. I am looking forward to doing some more serious thermal flying with the airplane this coming weekend and do plan on flying the airplane at the Southwest Classic Contest in Phoenix February 16 and 17. I am pretty impressed with the airplane. Phil Renaud No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 2/6/2008 8:14 PM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Fw: [RCSE] Tree story
- Original Message - From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Tree story Hi all, All tree stories begin the same way, win this contest, win, win, one more extra turn then the trees jump up and grab your plane. After some @#^^* words I realized my $2000 girlfriend (the only girlfriends my wife let me have), landed out of sight in a tree. Well, mark the plane (brand new Pike Perfect) my timer (and wife) and I start walking, looking for a green plane in a green forest..I was half sick to my stomach after all my brain waves explained to me there is no way this plane would be OK. My wife Leanne tried to calm me somewhat. I used my radio to wiggle the sticks hoping we would hear servo noises. We did, Leanne did. Over here! she yelled. I was about 20 feet off to the left of the tree and my wife was right under. Honey let me turn my radio off. I would like to look at the glider and see what needs to be done. Do you see any damage? By this time my wonderful wife was already half way UP the tree. She lowerd my Pike down to me. As I checked for damage my wife needed help. Can you help me down first? she asked. What a plane, what a wife (I hope, I have my priority right!) What a wife, what a plane. No damage on ether. My wife rescued my girlfriend...is there anyone else who can say thatI love my wife. Peter Baumeler RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LiPo's on a Plane
Hi, A while back someone was asking about policies for taking batteries on a plane. Seems the DOT is clamping down a bit on the number of batteries we're allowed to carry-on: In summary: * Any number in devices (e.g. in your cell, laptop, etc.) * Loose batteries not in devices must be in a plastic bag in the carry-on * 2 loose only per passenger That's my understanding anyway. http://www.gadling.com/2007/12/28/next-week-batteries-banned-from-checked-luggage/s Cheers, Peer RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale --Schulze isl 6-330d Chamelon Charger
Selling a lightly used Schulze isl6-330d charger. Comes with JR transmitter charging plug, mini Deans plug pigtail, Deans Ultra plug pigtail. Has the latest software upgrade. The only thing you need to do is to replace a connector on the negative power lead or hard-wire/solder them together if you choose. Asking $150 shipped. Please email if interested. Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Coroplast source
I'm not in the same area, but would be interested in any off the wall ideas you get. I've found it at sign stores in Texas before, but you have to find the right sign store because many aren't willing to sell out their raw material. 4x8 sheets of the 4mm? thick stuff (political signs) typically ran between $15 and $40, with the actual cost being less than that. If you have a TAP Plastics local they might be able to source it. The new hurricane shutter material that's being used for Habitat For Humanity houses down here in FL is a really thick (5/8 inch?) corrugated plastic material that's lightweight, not wood, and easy to store for long periods. This would be a bit overkill for anything but an airline box (and arguably underkill for a serious shutter), but still useful. Don't forget to reference Ben's design: http://thelocust.org/soaring/boxen/ Make sure any box you make looks at least as good as this one: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4294091postcount=64 Peter Melbourne, FL S Meyer wrote: Was wondering where is the best source for coroplast or corrugated plastic sheets? Chicago area... Lowes, Home Depot, or Menards? Have too many planes, need to build some storage boxes. TIA Steve Meyer SOAR LSF IV RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS -- JR Receivers
Selling the following gear: 2 x JR R700 7 channel 72 mhz slim receivers, no xtal, brand new, $60 each. Please email if interested. Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale -- Hitec Servos and JR Receivers
Selling the following gear: 2 x JR R700 7 channel slim receivers, no xtal, brand new, $60 each 4 x Hitec HS85-BB servos, JR connector (new in box), $18 each 2 x Hitec HS85-MG servos, JR connector (new in box), $25 each Email if interested. Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale --Servos and Receivers
Hi, Selling the following gear: 2 x JR R700 receivers (no crystal), brand new, $60 each 6 x Hitec HS85-MG servos, JR connector (new in box), $25 each 4 x Hitec HS85-BB servos, JR connector (new in box), $18 each Email if interested. Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale -- McLean Extreme Vindicator, Encore, Windancer, and stuff
I am selling my collection of models: 1) NIB McLean Vindicator, Yellow panels/Red tips, flaps/ail/v-tail. Have the instructions, wingrods and accessory hardware that came with the model. I am asking $400 for the plane. Also have 4 HS-85mg and 2 HS-85bb servos (JR connectors) and 1 JR R700 receiver to go with it, all for another $200. 2) NIB McLean Extreme (2M, Carbon stabs), White panels/Blue tips. Comes with instructions, wingrods and acessory hardware. Asking $575. Also have 4 HS-85mg and 2 HS-85bb servos (JR) and 1 JR R700 reciver flight pack for another $200. 3) Encore DLG, 99% built, never flown, throwing peg not installed. Has gyro, batteries, instructions, throwing peg, JR micro receiver, JR 241 micros in the wing and fuse. Slight storage damage on the underside of wing, near where the 2 panels join. Asking $600 for all. 4) Windancer 2M ARF from Polecat, Poly wing with flaps. Flown less than 6 times. Slight storage damage to the elevator linkage (just need to re-glue/re-work the horn area). Have speed 400 motor w/ MPJet 4.4:1 inline gearbox, Jeti speed controller, JR micro receiver, HS-85mg servos. Asking $450. 5) Used JR 8103 Air, transmitter only with slow charger and batteries , in excellent condition for $200. 6) Schulze Chameleon isl6-330d charger w/ upgraded EPROM, excellent condition, asking $180. I prefer SoCal pickup or meet for the sale, so we don't risk damage to the models, especially the built up ones. So, all prices do not include shipping. Please email if interested. Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: For Sale -- McLean Extreme Vindicator, Encore, Windancer, and stuff
The Vindicator is spoken for. Everything else still available. Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Hand launch Gyro
While many top pros arn't using gyros I have found it an easy way to add 10ft' average height to my launches. (measured with a ram2 altimiter). Another benefit is a gyro can really save you from a hooked launch. I think for a begining dlg thrower they are a good investment. you don't need an expensive one the MPI gyro is under $50 and works great right out of the box. with the case off it's pretty light I'm guessing 5-7 grams? just my 2 cents Pete RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] WTB 2m Image
Anyone have one of these they want to sell, I am interested in any tail X or v-tail ? Contact me at ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Becker anntenna
Where can I get Becker antenna for my Royal Evo? Thanks Pete RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 12V supply/optima maintenance
I'm putting together a 12V multi-purpose supply for 90% home and 10% mobile use. The magic field box thing advertised in the latest Model Aviation would probably work fine, but I already have several of the individual parts (eg. 12v to 120vac inverters) and don't want to pay that much. I've heard that I could just use a normal big battery and cross float it with a power supply with some proper diodes to protect the power supply in the event of a power failure, but I'd rather have a slightly more elegant and idiot-proof solution that also allows me the ability to charge while driving if I'm mobile. Also, there are concerns about the maximum charge voltage for the batteries I'm interested in using. Perhaps someone here has had similar requirements and can help me out. The two items I need are a battery and some sort of charger/maintainer. I've heard good things about the Optima Yellow Top AGM battery (but could easily be swayed elsewhere) and have no idea what I want in a maintainer. Archive research suggests several devices people have used for these batteries in winch operation, which would be similar in discharge requirements to mine. Why: * I'm a ham and would like the ability to operate on emergency power for a while (mostly just 2m/440 stuff and handhelds). * I live near the coast in Florida. I don't mind a few days without power, but my laptop batteries don't even last enough to make it through one DVD. This annoyed me a lot last year. * I use digital cameras and sometimes want to charge batteries en mass while on the road. I'm also thinking about getting some strobes that would run off of a 12V supply and would prefer not to use my car battery. This reason (more than the others) drives me toward a larger (i.e. car battery size or so) setup. Requirements: * 12V system output (thinking an Optima yellow top battery might have the right combination of design and capacity) * entire system should be at least luggable, probably with a little cart * good amount of longevity; I don't mind battery degradation, but it's nice if it would last for a few years with minimal use * completely automatic charge control supplied by a 13.8V source * graceful failover from mains or supply power failure * relative safety (this will be inside a dwelling, not a garage, and although I don't have a meth lab in here, a properly handled lead acid battery probably pales in comparison to the properly stored numerous LiPo packs and misc other junk I have in here.) I can handle the fusing and switching necessary, but I really need suggestions about a good solid charger/maintainer, as the market seems flooded with a variety of devices. I've read other posts in the archive close to this, but none that really answer my question completely. The BatteryMinder from VDC would do almost everything I want but requires a 110V supply. The BatteryMinder Solar sounds like what I want: http://www.vdcelectronics.com/batteryminder_solar_15a.htm , but it's not clear whether I want to power something like that off of one of my fixed 13.8V supplies. Any other suggestions or things to watch out for? Thanks, Peter Jensen Melbourne, FL http://www.diff.net/media/2004_09_26_hurricane_Jeanne_damage/img_2775.htm -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Looking for Trade
Sharon Pro 3.7 X-tail RTF. JR 368's Yellow/red very good condition. for Zenith X tail RTF in same condition. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soprano Feedback
The Soprano is a very clean and nice sounding. The AVA is more like a movie star. Smiles, Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR Aerotow
I hope every on made it home ok. The weather in the Chicago area was severe mildly spoken. I stopped my van for a hour because of the wind, hail and rain. The last four days where throughly great. Thanks for the JR boys and Johnny Berlin to put on the best show possible. Rumor has it they burned 15 gal of fuel on Friday I hope the next year we will have better conditions for the cross country flying. Lets do this again. Two reporter from Japan where shooting pictures and film all four days. A magazine and a DVD-magazine will be available from them... Paul and Steve flying in with the Super Cub, and 50+ pilot's setting up gliders is a great site. Skip Miller getting twenty-six miles on the cross country course loosing the Nimbus4 out of site twice and getting it back in one pice.. Carolyn Goldsmith also going cross county was outstanding, go girl... Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR Aerotow
Hi all, Well is upon us again with a extra day on Thursday for cross country flying. I am packing and on the road by tomorrow. I hope to see old friends and also to make some new ones and If you not plan to fly, come and visit. One of the sites to experience is Johnny Vertical Tow Berlin.. Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Highlight HLG and Highlight SLG (DLG) setup?
Hi Justin, If you can not get any anyone else, I can translate. Send me the instruction or a pdf file. Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Fazer, Icon comparison
Hi all, The Fazer is getting some good reviews. Any of you out there whom are flying both and can compare? Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: NCFM M60 after IHLGF
I have a NCFM M60 slope plane that's not going to get flown much here in Florida (yes, there are slope sites here. No, this isn't the right plane for them.) I'm planning on shipping it out to California to someone in the San Diego area where I can pick it up on Thursday (volunteers?); I'll sell whatever is left before I return on Monday. The ship is outfitted with a battery, switchjack, and ballast tube/slugs; the receiver is a Hitec 555 with HS-85MGs on the elevons. Pictures: http://www.diff.net/media/2003_12_23_lake_travis_sloping/img_5054.htm http://www.diff.net/media/2003_12_23_lake_travis_sloping/img_5061.htm It's obviously not as pretty now as it was in those pictures, and who knows what it'll look like if I get to fly it out there. :) Please contact me if you are interested in either receiving the ginormous fedex box or in looking at it during the contest weekend. Thanks! Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a site where gel cell batteries are sold
On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 03:44:29PM -0500, Stan Myers wrote: I have what is supposed to be a regulated 12vDC power supply. I'm currently using it with a 12v garden tractor battery to supply power to my Triton charger. Would like to find a place where I can buy a competitively priced gel cell. Any help out there? I second West Marine, living in a marine community where I drive by two of them on the way home. Failing that, I've found good deals at sporting goods stores that sell automated deer feeders for deer harvesting season -- apparently the 7Ah sealed lead acid gel cells are popular for those, and they're typically pretty cheap. Tractor dealerships also tend to have competitive prices. Peter Melbourne, FL -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] High Start Stories
This are the two best in my past. The first was a while a go. A bunch of pilots in our club practiced F3J launches. The pilot (Troy) did the leg signal ( you all know, it looks like a dog peeing on a tree). While all this business was happening, he somehow tangled the transmitter antenna with the launch line. Well the signal was given, runners run, airplane gone, radio gone..Pilot running after all of it. Let this sick in for a moment, nice visual... Johnny Berlin launching the Sailair to hard at our club contest, and with a big bang failed the joiner box, but only half way. The glider now sports a sexy 45° extra dihedral only on one wing. It looked like a giant ornithopter with a dead engine hanging in the air. Johnny made the time and then landed the glider on the field, nice. The Sailair is flying again. Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soprano Review On Liftzone
Anyone flown a Ava and a Soprano for comparisons? My Ava is weighting in at 41oz. The rudder on the Ava is much bigger. I did fly it in some wind, I can add up to 33oz to mine. Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Volz Kolibi servos for sale
Hi, can you tell me the if the colibri's are similar in size and power output if a JR241 (17oz sub mini's) If they are I will need all of them Barry we have met at the nats. I am the one with the Ava with the one 1 ballast tubes and the repaired wing tips. Peter ---BeginMessage--- Just rediscovered 10 Volz Kolibri servos . These were Volz smallest and lightest servos, but have been discontinued. They are supplied with the VMS connectors and are $ 15 ea. Also, one twin Kolibri for $ 30. Shipping is Priority Mail @ 3.85 for each parcel. Best Regards, Barry Kennedy Kennedy Composites www.kennedycomposites.com 1935 Highvalley Trail Grand Prairie, TX 75052 972.602.3144 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Los Banos Scale Soaring event
Wow, 11 Days of flying.. Smiles, Peter ---BeginMessage--- Los Banos Scale Event April 23-34, 2005 more info please go to http://www.sbss.org/ Slope soaring, winch and aero-tow. New runway layout. Brian -- Brian Chan An Electric Airplane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format ---End Message---
RE: [RCSE] Today was 'Hobby Day'...as in F3J World Champ Hobby :-)
Gordy, great to hear you are having fun down there, say Hi to David for me. I flew in the Heathcote cup 20 years ago, I can't believe it is still going, wow. In fact I won the series events in 1980-1, can't remember, it was a long time ago, but it was an intense event back then. Typically they have over 60 pilots and the top 20 or so were all very talented. Not sure who to hook you up with, most of the guys I flew with back then have either relocated, passed away, or just don't fly any more. This time of year I suspect you will be flying at either Heaqthcote oval or Maddens plains. IF you flying at the oval, regardless of the wind direction keep over the valley, and to the left had side of it., big sink holes on the right. If you are flying at Maddens plains you will be surrounded by golf courses and the air is pretty much good all around. Have fun and good luck at the event. Oh, another word of warning, Australia is the land of JR, Grin Pete
Re: [RCSE] 2-meters suck....???
Well hell no... To make it even more fun the right plane on hand helps. The weapon of choice has to be a Lawicki 2meter Duck... out floats, out launch, out land all (except for Darrel's.. dam what ever he flies). Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 2M and such
Hi Daryl Would 1.9meter and a T-tail be better.!!! Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Vtail ball-link removal - best practices? Tools?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 11:08:21AM -0600, Lydon, Matthew (NBC Universal) wrote: I have a couple of ships with removable v-tails, but usually leave them on, as popping off the ball-link connectors is extremely difficult, stressing components. How do you folks do it? Anyone know of a good plier-like tool that gets the job done? I'm not sure I would be constantly stressing them myself, but for travel and the like they're definitely removable. I bought a set of ball link pliers from a local hobby shop that have worked well for the ball links on my helicopter -- there are many different varieties available. The helicopter folks always seem to have the best selection -- here's a start: http://www.helihobby.com/html/hand_tools.html -Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] dust devil video (semi-appropriate humor)
These guys should give up the soccer and fly some TD: http://www.exbyte.net/showit.php?videoid=380 I have no idea of how authentic the video is or any other information about it, but even at face value it's pretty funny. -Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Limits in R/C Soaring - a proposed discussion
Here is a limit of a different kind. Last summer I flew the 2Meter contest in Grand Rapids Michigan. I managed to gain 3000 feet six minutes. (3421feet to be exact) I bailed at about 3200 to land for a 10 min Max. The Piccolario lady was taking to me all the sweet sounds a numbers to me we all like to hear. Troy Lawiki was timing for me and extra sets of eyes helping spotting the disappearing glider. I did managed to dive 3200 in less then two minutes and land on time. I have to say It was great flight. only for Troy to out fly me the next round and go to over 4000 feet..I hate to be second . Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] MT Trashmore
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:47:37AM -0600, Brian Smith wrote: Can any one give me some info about Mount Trashmore in Florida...Where is it, and who flys there? Thanks..Brian Smith Perhaps you're referring to the Pompano Hill Flyers? I met some at a recent contest and found them to be a delightful bunch; do take care to contact them before planning to fly because there are some restrictions on use of the hill. This is probably what they want their website to be: http://www.phflyers.com/ but it's configured to redirect you to this URL, which appears is on a slow DSL line: http://65.6.189.224/phflyers/ -Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Most fun plane
Yes it can get better Towing my 2 Meter Fox going vertical and rolling, the Pegasus one way , the Fox rolling the other way. I am still smiling a half year later... Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Hoopes wiring harness, a satisfied customer
I have been using Tom's wiring harness in my fleet of Opus's exclusively. I live in Hawaii and slope and Dynamic soar from wind blown in from the Pacific Ocean. This salty air corrodes all things metal at an alarming rate as shown by my rusty 1997 truck. I think I use Tom's harness's in extreme conditions and they have always been up to the task Pete Salomon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Winch Drum Diameters
Hi Eddie I use 40mm and clam up to 65mm. I also have a long drum to help keep the dia lower for longer. I usually use the clamshells unless the wind is blowing fairly heavily and then I will go to the 40mm. I don't fly enough to really have a good handle on the differences but I suspect the dia vs launch height curve is fairly flat because I have done back to back launches with and without the clammies and the launch height difference dosen't look that much. Bear in mind I usually fly about once a month and attend most of the NZ F3B series so this is not a well measured analysis. I know Dave James who makes winches also uses 42mm and 65 I thinkHe has a website and calls himself Winchnz, maybe a google will find it. Best Regards Peter Williams Subject: Winch drum diameters Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Guys . I was wondering what drum dia's you are using on your FAI winches. It seems that the drum dia's are creeping up a little from when we first built to the F3b winch rules.I remember Nic Wrights winch having a 42mm dia drum some time ago. I've just built a new drum this week and expect to try it out this weekend This will give me 46mm, 50mm and 60mm dia's and I was wondering what everyone else is doing. Eddie the Eagle in sunny South Australia RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Digtial Camera Selection Update
Have you considered the Olympus e20n. 5 megapix with zoom 9-36 (~ 35mm-180mm) $ 700-800 Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Berg Rxs
Hi people How are the new Berg Rxs (GII GIII) holding up in a crowded DLG environment. RC Direct have a new 6 channel one that has channel 7 selectable so is great for Futaba which likes 1 7 for ailerons. I was at the 2003 IHLGF and saw the very impressive demo by Rc Direct but wondered how they were working before I buy a couple. Best Regards Peter Williams (New Zealand) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Thank you Richard Jones
I just received a Royal Evo radio that I purchased used from Richard Jones through the RSCE. Richard thank you very much. The radio arrived in perfect condition and a day before it was supposed to. Your packaging job was the best I have ever seen. better than any professional RC vendor I have dealt with. congratulations on your newest family addition. I hope you are getting to sleep through the night and are finding some time to fly as well. Aloha Pete Salomon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] building the ideal plywood box for a Sportubes and DLGs
Hi folks, I'm going to attend the ECHLG contest up in North Carolina next week, and I finally have all of my planes working. However, I still don't have a box built for my Sportube. This is a mostly obvious exercise, but I feel like I should try to leverage the inventiveness of others who might have come up with superior packing solutions. I took this picture of Oleg's cardboard nice box last year: http://www.diff.net/media/2003_10_12_East_Coast_HLG_contest/img_2990.htm My situation won't be as pretty as his, because I have three planes which all have differing amounts of dihedral and two with non-removable stabs. I'm confident that I can make it work given the materials I have, but it would be nice to see if there are any other pictures of travel carriers for hand launch planes out there. My current working set of materials includes two 4x8 sheets of 1/4 light plywood, a sheet of blue foam, plenty of glue/nails, and a sportube in the mail. I might go for a hybrid plywood/cardboard box, or I might put some lightening holes in the redundant parts of plywood, but it doesn't seem like it will be that heavy. I've searched the archives, but I haven't found too many good pictures. Any pictorial suggestions? Thanks, Peter Melbourne, FL -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Ava Pushrod question
Hi all, I did not see any reason for the rudder to be outside of the fuse. The elevator pushrods sits on the carbon tube as straight as possible with a exit hole still in the white of the fuse. The rudder is held in place with simple balsa disks made with a dremel tool. I used all the pushrods from the kit Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Need some help winding up my hi start.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 07:21:49PM -0500, Stan Myers wrote: I am currently using a Orange colored reel that can be found at Home Depot that was designed to be used to as a reel for outdoor electrical extensions. I wind the rubber up first to get a larger dia. hub to wind the nylon string up faster, but alas, its way too slow for this aging flyer. Any out there with a better idea including some type of power rig. I thought about some type of spool that I could put on a cordless drill motor. Any Help out there? My suggestion probably won't be immediately helpful to you, but I modified my high start reel at the advice of a club member to increase the effective reel diameter by drilling several (six?) holes around and epoxying in 1/4 wooden dowels. I reel in the string first and then the rubber, and I managed to guess the placement of the horizontal spokes well enough that my rubber still fits. The advantage is that I get about one revolution per pace on my home depot extension cord reel. Buddy Roos made the suggestion. Peter Jensen Melbourne, FL -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to find it
More Piccolario stories, I did loss my 2m Duck a week ago. With the Piccolario reporting, I was going in. As the plane got closer to the ground (full crow) the voice became more distorted. On the ground It reported 4 feet. I lost the signal temporally walking closer to the plane. This is a good thing since I was in a hilly, wooded area. As I picked up the signal it was weaker iet. Now I used the Piccolario radio (not the RC radio) as a directional antenna by pointing the small antenna level to the ground rotating 360°.like a searchlight. At the weakest signal I was pointing directly at the glider. I started walking looking for the signal strength to improve ( the voice became louder and better) but still looking for the week spot. Out of the trees I was looking at a corn field 8feet tall..! Some where in this mess was the plane. Getting readings holding the radio next to the ground ( still looking for the week signal). Pointing at the plane I walked straight line on to the glider, not seeing it till 5 feet from it. I did this with out help for the last part of the search. Practic this technic, It will fined you the lost plane. Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] NATS
All this talk is getting me exited to get there and fly. Would anyone know how long the registration building is open in the evening ?? We hope to get there by 5 PM on Sunday. Pete Erich in Baltimore __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Great Planes Fling
it's listed on the Tower web site with a release date of mid-June. -- Peter Young Peter Young's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=8451 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=240424 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Antenna for HLG / Electric Fields
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 05:13:49PM -0700, Martin Usher wrote: On another topic, has anyone ever had glitch problems from power lines? (Mark Mech / Aerofoam) In the current edition of Smithsonian there is a two page color photograph of an outdoor art piece made by sticking about a thousand flourescent tubes vertically into the ground under some high tension wires. The photograph is taken at dusk and the tubes are all glowing. This would be Richard Box's work, http://www.richardbox.com/ . Click on the main graphic or the archive link to see the other cool bits he's done. This is an extreme example but it illustrates the significant electrical fields that high voltage transmission lines give off. It will affect a radio receiver, possibly enough to make it glitch. The question I can't answer is how much is enough -- how close can you go to what lines without experiencing problems. The art piece was done under 400kV lines; I don't think anyone's going to be flying near those, but what about lower voltage lines? Remember that a Red Herring isn't quite big or conductive enough to do too much damage, but I've successfully flown underneath / in between these lines for an hour or so with only one or two glitches out of a GWS 4 channel single conversion receiver: http://www.diff.net/media/2002_07_10_Oregon_trip/img_5872-medium.html I'm not sure if I'm comfortable saying this in a public forum, but the plane mostly glitches when you whack the lines (remember, with 4.5 ounces of white foam.) The lines were about 5' above my max launch, so I didn't spend too much time up that high. I do not know the voltage of those lines, but it's line 1, mile 18, tower 2 in Hillsboro, OR, if anybody wants to look it up :) We have neighborhood distribution lines running down one side of our field and they don't affect our flying (assuming that nobody actually lands on them, that is). I don't know what voltage they are, I think its 7kV. If they were significantly higher voltage then the poles they are on would be a lot taller and we'd be avoiding them just like any other obstacle. So people have demonstrated solar powered planes from the sun and from spotlights (NASA Dryden), as well as from lasers. Has anybody done to math to see whether an inductively powered plane could be flown under high lines? There are several technical challenges I can think of, but it would be a neat way to get the power companies to absolutely hate you... -Peter (Please, take all homeland security discussions off-list; this is about interference and overload in receivers when flying in the vicinity but not through power lines.) -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] List Shut Down
Due to some unexpected maintenance work being done on one of our power supply lines the soaring list will be shut down for most of today Monday 19th April Thanks Peter AndrewSystems OfficeAirAge MediaRidgefield CT
Re: [RCSE] Need 4 JR 241's
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:35:17PM -0600, Steve Gibson wrote: Who has good prices on JR 241 servos? I need four. I've had nothign but good luck from Johnny Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Don't know how his prices compare, but his service was good and the prices seemed about right. -Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Fwd: Re: [RCSE] 5 cell current limiter
Peter ---BeginMessage--- Hi all, You can use the 5cell without a problem if you have long servo leads. I would not use the 5cell an a RES glider with stock servo leads. Due to the longer wire in a scale or F3B, F3J Glider the resistance is increased and the extra voltage is not a problem. And if one cell crapes out you still have 4 more to get you home. Peter ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] V O L Z Help
Hi all, One of my Volz wing maxx just died to day. I need to order one. Any one out there like to part with one, or whom will have to best prices? Whom can do repairs? (looks like the pot is gone) Thanks for the help, Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Emphasis or de-emphasis on landings
Hi all, Arrgh. is right. Lets look at some facts. 1)It seems to me most of us are not to happy about the way our contest are conducted. 2)Progress can not be stopped. 3)It's amusing how a bunch of middle aged men can yell at each other without getting anything fixed and create confusion. 4)Some very smart and interesting ideas where stated. Every sport (or business) needs time to sort things out, use smart decisions to grow, guide them selfs on the right path. I like to watch formula1 car racing. The cars begun to perform at unsafe levels many times. Some restriction where made over the years (no ground effect, no turbos, no slicks). At the core of our unhappiness IS THE FACT: PROGRESS CAN NOT BE STOPPED it can be guided. When was the last time we guided our sport? When was the last time we where brainstorming our sport and did come up with solid solutions? One of the reasons why I like this sport so much is the camaraderie and the good people in the sport, but this will not exclude us from having growing pains. I do not have the solution to the problem on hand, but lets start a smart and progressive dialog. Just like Joe, I like to meet people and going to contests is where people are. Don's ideas are multiple and need to be explored. Lets hear some more, and lets hope we can pull all together and find a way to grow. Peter Baumeler RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] NATS Landing
Thats what I was trying to say.thank you. Last year there was 6 of us, 'blind mice". They did spray a little white paint over the red paint, after we brought it up. But, I was still guessing most of the second day.That might have had something to do withthe single 100 score.All we want is an even field. Pete Bill Malvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/16/03 9:39, "Jack Strother" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: The landing task has been described and published on the LSF site since last November. what is described is what it will be.. JackI think all the guy was asking is if you could use a marking color thatshows up for people who are color blind. Red can show little or no contrastagainst grass for people with certain kinds of color blindness. That makesit very difficult for them to actually see the landing target.Seems like a reasonable request.~~~Bill MalveyRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
Re: [RCSE] LoLo Question
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:55:03PM -0700, Bill Malvey wrote: For you LoLo owners (and I will be one soon), does the LoLo read altitude above sea level (ASL) or above ground level (AGL). I'm sure Sheldon will answer properly, but it just appears to be a pressure sensor, data logger, some glue, and lots and lots of experimentation and integration. We're paying mostly for the latter, which is quite fine by me. The actual data you download from the device is converted into altitude with some simple-looking and adjustable formulas, and there's a convenient way to normalize the ground level in the software. Does it have a way to zero it or correct for barometric pressure? Just curious. Thanks It zeros when you first start it up, as far as I can tell. Obviously with a pressure-only altimeter (just like in a real plane) if you fly to a place with a different ambient air pressure or if the weather changes a whole lot things will be skewed a bit. In our application it should be easy to check for this by comparing the difference between ground level at different points during the day. FWIW, I took my Alti2 from ATL - Las Vegas - San Diego, and the cabin pressure was around 6200' at cruising altitude on the first leg and around 5000' on the second leg. The ground readings look sane (i.e. San Diego is lower than Atlanta, etc) and I used a 6 second sampling rate. Security didn't even stop on the 4-cell pack shrink-wrapped with an Alti2 on it that was blinking. :) -Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] flaps on a flying wing? (thanks all !)
Hi Dave, I wonder how this will work an my new bluto... By the way why would you need airplane fuel for any of your gliders?!!!? Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Thank goodness for RES and NOS
Hi As an interested bystander, it seems to me that to allow updates to RES and NOS ruins the reason for the class. If you want an updated class, start a new one. We have too many classes now I hear you say? Too bad, don't mess with RES and NOS, they are fine as they are! Just my 2 cents worth. Peter Presant (from way down here in New Zealand) - Original Message - From: Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Thank goodness for RES and NOS Bravo Jack! As to Bob's question...it will become what the people at large want it to be, just like any class in our hobby. I can see allowing period landing implements, ribbed mat material and the gray Airtronics skids and such. I can also see the year cut off moving with the times. Why not just allow a 20 year cut off? Maybe only change it every 5 years. Any design that is over 20 years old should be old enough to be nostalgic by the people who flew them in the good old days. Remember that some peoples good old days are different than others. I am 50 now and I grew up flying Aquilas and Windfree's and so the class as it is is right on target. Someone who is 30 may see a Sagita or Falcon 880 as the good old days and someday it should be. I could also see as some point needing a sub class using an arbitrary date cut off as being what might be called The Golden Age of Soaring Class. Here's to the good old days. May they live forever. Mark http://www.isthmusmodels.com --- Jack Iafret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may sound goofy coming from the person that submitted the rules change proposal, but it would not break my heart if all you interested in Nostalgia voted against the proposal to make Nostalgia an AMA event. I did the submission because of a fair number of requests by Nostalgia flyers to have it an AMA event. I have always treated the rules as belonging to the flyers of the event, not my personal rules, so if the flyers want to have it official, I feel obligated to at least try to fulfill their desires. I have no problem being the Keeper, but also see some benefit of it being official. Let the democratic process take over and we will see where the outcome leads us. I would hope that even if the proposal passes, any rules changes proposed in the next cycle will be for the good of Nostalgia in general, not one persons agenda. Again, if all is good in the system ; ), those self serving proposals will fail. Remember, if you don't vote you condone anything that passes (or doesn't pass). Jack Iafret Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules - Original Message - From: Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeff Nibler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: [RCSE] Thank goodness for RES and NOS Jeff Nibler wrote: Thank goodness for RES and NOS! Yes, but for how long? As I composed the RES rules, Nostalgia was in the back of my mind. I envisioned 'modernizing' existing sailplanes with better airfoils, changing moment arms, better construction techniques, etc. Consequently, I 'borrowed' part of the wording for landing skids from the existing Nostalgia rules (thanks Jack). My philosophy was that if it works in Nostalgia, why not in RES? To date, the only contest I am aware of that follows the rules to the letter is the Nats; everyone else allows the use landing arresting devices. A current rules change proposal would remove the section from the rules that prohibits their use. If Nostalgia becomes an official AMA event, how long will it be before someone changes those rules to allow landing arresting devices as well as the cut-off date for Nostalgia legal aircraft? My guess is three years, the length of an AMA rules cycle. And what will we have then? Bob Johnson Fond du Lac, WI RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL
Re: [RCSE] Gws tiger moth motor
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:11:36PM -0800, Curt wrote: I am flying a GWS tiger moth using stock motor,7.2v 850 Mah Li-ion = battery(30 min flying time). The problem is I have to replace my motor = quite often. Do you have any idea or suggestion what kind of motor I can use to avoid = replacing the stock motor frequently. I still want a slow flying plane = to fly at the park. I think your best bet is to get an account on the Ezone (http://www.ezonemag.com/) and visit their discussion forums. A brushless is probably your best bet, but people might be able to suggest what to do to reduce the load (and therefore increase MTBF) on the motor you are currently using. RCSE folks probably intersect with Ezone folks a bit, but the Ezone is a community geared much more toward that sort of question. Now, if you were wanting to know how you might get your Tiger Moth to land within 10cm, I'm sure we could all suggest some great skeg designs that would both stop the plane dead and turn your featherweight parkflyer into razor-wielding menace to society, but I digress :) Here's a quick search link that returns some results: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/search.php?s=action=showresultssearchid=754625sortby=lastpostsortorder=descending -Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Unbuilt Kits Survey
What I can read between the lines is you are not married, or you need to bring your wive flowers home for every plane you had and thank her for being the best and most understanding wive ever lived! Smiles, Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Micro Slopers?
Hi all, We made up the meanest, fastest, most fun, 30in epp sloper ever. It will zoom, with TWO small bunchy cord to 200-300 feet. The other cord is to wrap your knees together when you launch the little monster Micro gear need, two 50 size, servos.150 ma battery small receiver. I have never seen 6oz move this fast on the slope. Oh by the way almost forget, is a mini jw Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] failure deliverysangkilkim
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[RCSE] ford longshaft
Guys (and Girls) The club inherited a winch, a few years back. It was equippet with Real Balls, a good brake and a very sturdy frame. We used it several years, then the motor gave out. Till that time, I did not really notice that the drum was on the right hand side. Every other one that I have looked at, the drum is on the left side. I am now trying to replace the motor, of course the rotation is in the wrong direction. Can some one out there tell me HOW TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF A STANDARD FORD LONG SHAFT, THE 3115 ? Pete in BaltimoreDo you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley & videos from Greatest Hits CD
[RCSE] Fwd: Battery draw
I would like to thank all.got lots of good advise. After driving myself nuts with the multi meter, found the problem to be the "on and off" switch. The monkey with the soldering iron put big blobs of solder on the wire connections.So close to each other, that there is some bleeding of current between the terminals. So, when it was switched off.it was not totally off, draining the battery between flights. Thanks again for all the help Pete Peter Schlitzkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 06:49:01 -0700 (PDT)From: Peter Schlitzkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Battery drawTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need some help... My new ship is using the battery at a unusual high rate. about 15 minutes is all that I am able to get from my 4 cell 800 mil. pack. I have tried replacing the Battery pack, this was my first thought. Did not make any difference. I have been using the same amount of servos of the same type and the same size battery pack for a number of years. ( in a similar type full house set-up ). I need some thoughts from all the "Electro-Heads" out there Pete in Baltimore Do you Yahoo!?New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
[RCSE] Last e-mail
What is wrong? No e-mail's since the 19th. I do not want to receive 500 at once. Any body else out there with the same problem? Peter ---BeginMessage--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the Aquiline foot switches. They are available in black, orange, yellow, blue. You can get them at Newark Electronics. The orange one is part number 93B9929, also look up model 971 foot switch. They are about $15. Note: both Aquiline and Clipper are made by Linemaster :) -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] Re: Paragon Nostalgia question
The structure of a plane can not be altered, but only strengthen..a carbon spar can be glued in, if the plane had a spar.a trailing edge can be made from hardwood if it had one made from balsa.spoiler can be added, but only on top of the wing surface, NO CHANGES OF AIR FOIL, EXTERNAL STRUCTURE (ADD SHEETING) WING SHAPE (ADD OR SUBTRACT SPAN OR SHAPE) Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] MicroPro 8000 and Berg 6 Rx
Hi Bob . The trouble may be a thing called a MIller Intergrator It's a part of the MP-8000 encoder and works with the RF deck to shape pulses. I just purchased a FMA Direct RF Deck on Ch-08 ( ham) and the accompanying paper work mentions how to reset the Integrator. Maybe someone here on the Exchange can give you a fuller explanation. The two little pots on the lower left side of the encoder adjust the Integrator. Best of luck 73, Pete Carr WW3O State College, PA TDY Charleston, WVA On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:30:50 -0700 Bob Pederson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, I give up. This combination should work but I can't get my servos to stop jittering. The MP8000 is a negative going pulse modulation (chan 29 FM) and the Berg 6 set up for Hitec/ Futaba (normal setup) which is the same form of modulation. Do any of you MP8000 users out there know what I may be doing wrong? The Berg is new and I've checked out the transmitter and servos with a Hitec 555 RX - all works like it should. I've even tried making up a shift inverter that I found on Cabi's MP8K site but that didn't work either(I also moved the jumper on the Berg to correspond to an Airtronics, positive going modulation). Any advice would be appreciated TIA Bob Pederson Ssoaring in Berthoud. Rocky Mountain Soaring Assn. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] NATS
Time to start thinking about the NATS for 2002. My son and I stayed at the Holiday inn two years ago. It was ok, nothing special...did not see to many other sailplane guys there. Where is the preferred spot to stay in Muncie ?? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Flapperon Stiffening.
Hi Joe How did you stiffen up the flapperons??? Did I miss an earlier post?? I went back through the digests and am curious. I have flutter problems also. Best Regards Peter Williams New Zealand Joe wrote... Decided to provide a quick report on flight testing of my ex flutter-bird. The 4 or so grams of weight added was definitely worth it! The plane launches so much better, and even gained some handling at speed due to a reduction in aeroelastics on the flaperon. I'll have to do some dead air times with it now that I can throw it full power without a hint of flutter. I'll do the same routine on a couple of other wings shortly and collect some data. I'm curious about before/after weight, and more importantly, torsional stiffness of the flaperons before and after the sock is installed. Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] DLG Aileron flutter.
Hi Guys. I got just the slightest hint of flutter on my DLG todayit was windy however. I suspect the culprit was the outboard aileron. Just a slight buzz on one launch (and a good one If I say so myself). So now some questions Has anyone successfully used the Hitec feather HS 50 servos for ailerons for DLG. I have the servos (CS10s) pretty far out in the wing already however I want to go out further. (Ailerons 22long servo out about 10 from root). The wing layup is 1.6 oz cloth top and bottom and so I'm thinking of maybe another layer over the ailerons maybe 3/4 oz top and bottom 1wide. Any other suggestions for this problem. Best Regards Peter Williams RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Sovereign 2-Meter
The BASS club, here in Baltimore MD., is using this plane as a One design project. We have flown a couple of events now. It is a great plane. Would highly recommend the sovereign to the soaring community. Pete Schlitzkus --- Bill Kuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was linking at the link to the Laser Arts web site, noticed the Sovereign 2 meter kit for $69.00. Anyone see this plane fly? Thanks, Bill Kuhl RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] NSP Orion HLG Nylon Screw Size
Hi, Does anyone know the size of the nylon wing fastners for NSP's Orion HLG? I've emaled NSP but no reply for a long time.. thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Haven't been able to receive any thing from the list
Has anyone else been having problems in the past few days receiving emails from the list? thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Wingeron plane w/ add-on mixer
I was wondering if I can use an aftermarket electronic mixer (like the one from Ohmark) for use in a Wigeron plane like the CR Turbo ST? Or is the mixer only for V-tails and flying wings? I've never flown one of these wingeron planes so I'm a little confused, but it would seem that the control surfaces would work the same in principal as a V-tail or flying wing. Thanks Peter
[RCSE] European Glider Models
I was wondering if anyone has ever owned this glider called the Trotter in the "Austrian HLG Homepage" at the following link: http://members.chello.at/pirker/model/trotter.htm I'd like to get one and would appreciate any info on where I can purchase this kit. Thanks Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Futaba 9Zap
Hi Guys I have a 9Zap and I want to swop the switches on the top corners for each other. The wiring doesn't allow electrical swapping of the switches without extending the wiring on the switch wiring harness. I wonder if there is a way in the software of swapping the switch assignments. I assume this would be hidden or at the system level as opposed to the normally accessed user level. Can anyone with experience of this please contact me. Regards Peter Williams RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3B Scar aerial
Hi Guys Does anyone know how long the aerial is in the Scar fuse.. almost ready to fly.. regards Peter Williams RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Listserve down time
Tomorrow evening (12th December) from around 5:30 PM Eastern there will be some interruption to all Listserves operated by Airage until around midnight. This is due to an upgrade to our network and internet connection. We will try to keep the down time to a minimum. Apologies for the inconvenience Peter Andrew Systems Office Air Age Publishing, Inc Ridgefield CT 06877-4606 USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Fw: HLG golf
- Original Message - From: Peter Presant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: HLG golf Hi there I have just been reading your posts about HLG golf. One thing that was not clear to me was how you scored. Was the glider only required to land on the green or did it have to be within a specified distance? I can understand counting the number of throws, what about the rest? A clarification on this would be gratefully received, I am posting from New Zealand. Peter Presant I originally posted this to the sender's email address. It bounced, so I am posting it to RCSE in the hope the originator will see it and reply. Thanks Peter Presant
Re: [RCSE] Why Negative Last
Hi YK and y'all. I have an old Jaguar, car not sloper, and the maintenance manual recommends that the negative "earth" be disconnected before working on the electrical system. The theory is that any acccidental short to the chassis will not burn up the expensive stuff. I've had a battery blow up. The cause was gas on top of the battery while I tried to connect jumper cables. If you are making connections to a battery, It's best to make the "last" connection away from the battery so the spark in not near the gas. Cars that are running have a fan that stirs up the air and dissapates the gas. Batteries without this airflow may blow. Hope this helps. Pete Carr State College, PA (TDY Portsmouth, OH) On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:14:05 -0700 "Y.K.Chan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think John got this right. That is the originating reason. YK - Original Message - From: John Ensoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Why Negative Last High George, The reason is probably due to the recommended system on your car or truck which will have a negative earth system. If you make the positive connection last there is a danger of your spanner making contact with some other part of the car and "Bloooie" you've done a welding job! or melted your spanner. This can't happen if you make the negative connection last. Regards John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] NATS
I am thinking about traveling to Muncie IN., for the 2000 NATS. Would anyone be willing to share info, as to.where to stay, where NOT to stay !!! events not to miss, ect... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Dynamic soaring a UC Model
Big Snip We flew with a former U control expert, Harry Roe. When he saw us cranking up some D.S. angled loops, he observed that they used to do a similar type of sustained flight with U contro stunt planes in high winds after the enginge ran out of fuel! Has anyone else heard of that? Paul Siegel Hi Paul Have spent hours doing just that, mainly flew combat models, you need something light and clean so this rules out racing and speed models(high wing loading). Several in a circle at once is a giggle and then we used to attach streamers and fly "combat" but without the motors running. With a smaller model a good launch and some serious whipping the motor is never started. You can build up speed doing basically lazy eights (low into wind half loop higher downwind half bunt etc etc) and do aerobatics as well with the energy, the more wind the better!!!!!!! Peter Williams New Zealand RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Carbon flying stab rods.
Greetings to all! Having lost a ship to a failed stab at Cumberland this year, I'm somewhat concerned about stab strength. I have 2 questions for the group. 1st question: I'm assembling a Whyte Wings Sapphire which supplies carbon stab rods. The instructions want me to sand the rods to fit the tubes. Will this technique weaken the rods and allow them to snap? 2nd question: Is the difference in weight between carbon and piano wire enough to justify its use? I wonder if a reliable rod is worth the extra nose weight. Any comments? Thanks to all. Pete Carr Bellefonte, PA TDY in Orlanda, FL ___ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Can hawks do a loop????
Great stories, Tom, and I hope your post resurrects this thread. We discussed cordivae (Ravens and Crows) and hawks' behavior several times over the years and it's one of my favorite threads. Caro, GaryO and a couple others have lots to say about cordivae behavior. One of my fave experiences with a red tail (stop me if you've heard this one): Several years ago, over the flats of NCentral IL, I was looking for a thermal when a female red tail scooted below me and towards a "tree corner" where the male's thermalling was already in progress. I was at 1600' or so agl. Round about 2500', the hawk was getting closer... like about 20 feet below, so I said, "Hey hawk!". The bird did a rapid 45-to-45 to see what the noise was, saw nothing, and resumed circling. When she was about 10 feet below, I shouted, "HEY, HAWK!" (I mena, what _do_ you say to a hawk?) followed by a most amazing display of aerobatic control. The big bird rolled inverted, belly up. It looked at me, scowled, extended talons (all while on its back) and screeched. Then it did a half-loop to go right-side-up, tightened its wings and, in 3 turns was easily 150 feet above me. We played tag for about 9 miles. Once she realized I was up there just for fun and wasn't a threat, she's show me a thermal and wait until I got there before she headed off to the next one. Gotta love them birds! PeterB RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]