[RCSE] Fall Fest Timer
I need a timer for Visalia Fall Fest. So if your going and don't have a timer either please contact me by email or phone. Maurice Podder661 3031881
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Shift Hitec SuperSlim Rx
Edgar You can use an Electron 6 with your 12Z or 14MZ and a Y cord for power. Just set the channels to 1 2 3 4 5 6 and go. I just set up a Big Bird from USA that way and works perfect. Maurice - Original Message - From: Flying High [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: exchange soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:10 PM Subject: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Shift Hitec SuperSlim Rx By any chance, does anyone have a new in box Hitec Superslim Rx in Futaba shift that they are willing to sell? Please contact me off line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Edgar The Soaring Junkie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra ? Mine weighs 61.75 oz prior to balance. How does this compare with yours?
#31 is 61 even ready to fly. Maurice - Original Message - From: Stan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Digest soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: [RCSE] Supra ? Mine weighs 61.75 oz prior to balance. How does this compare with yours? And how much weight did you have to put in to balance? Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 5/15/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra ? Mine weighs 61.75 oz prior to balance. How does this compare with yours?
Maurice has the CG at the back of the wing ala DP. Actually George I have the CG set just in front of the horizontal stab :-) Maurice - Original Message - From: George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stan Myers' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra ? Mine weighs 61.75 oz prior to balance. How does this compare with yours? This proves several things. Any or all of the following could apply. First is Gordy's rule of weights: Everyone else's plane weighs less than yours no matter how light yours is. If you build a Supra RTF at 40 ounces, somebody will have a lighter one! Then: Stan is a lousy builder. Next: Maurice is a great builder. Next: Maurice used lighter equipment than Stan. Next: Maurice has the CG at the back of the wing ala DP. Next: Stan has the CG at the front of the wing. Next: Stan's scale weighs heavy. Next: Maurice's scale weighs light. Next: Stan's plane has more carbon, paint or epoxy in it so it's slightly heavier. Next: I've heard 61-65 ounces depending on servo choice. Let's face it; if you use sub micros at 6 grams or you use micro digitals at nearly an ounce a piece, you'll end up with different weights. Next: 99% of us couldn't tell the difference between the way a 61 ounce plane and a 65 ounce plane flies. 4 ounces out of 60 is only .07%. That's nothing for the majority of us. Most of us can't tell the difference in how a plane flies unless we change the loading by 2 ounces per square foot, which equates to about 20 ounces. On a light plane like an AVA, we might notice a difference in the way the plane flies at 1 ounce per square foot increased loading, or an additional 10 ounces. Next: None of this really matters at 1000' and 20 minutes! Just my humble opinion of course. Personally, I think you've done fine Stan! gv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #31 is 61 even ready to fly. Maurice And how much weight did you have to put in to balance? Stan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 12Z Programing
Has any one set up a Futaba 12Z for 6ch glider. I need help! Maurice
[RCSE] Encore and Photon FS (pick up at Fresno Classic)
New RTF Encore. Only has a few set up flights on it and it is in perfect condition. 4 MX 30 servos on ailerons, rudder,elevator receiver (Airtronics) and battery. $500.00 New RTF Photon. Only has a few set up flights and is in perfect condition. Servos, battery and receiver (Futaba shift). $300.00 Pick them both up at the Fresno Classic. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!!
I'm at 108 with #31. Maurice - Original Message - From: Tom Broeski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! Is the CG different in the carbon model? Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really forward. Tom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! Following three weeks of slooow assembly, Supra #42 (carbon) was launched today. The weather at Poway was perfect with light winds, light thermals and lots of sun. No rain this year so there is no grass, just brown stubble that generates thermals from about 0900 until sunset. My Supra is a carbon model with a beautiful dark orange fuse and white and orange wings. Assembly took a little longer than I expected mainly due to my desire to put the pushrods inside the fuse and boom. The fuse is tight quarters with the ballast tube installed. Details of the pushrod installation are available from me off line. The Airtronics 94761Z digital servos are a perfect fit in the wing and fuse. I used the supplied hardware to connect servos to flight controls and covered the servos with the supplied covers. Thanks to Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for providing me with pictures and suggestions about making the installation and setup. 'ole #42 was almost perfectly trimmed and flew nearly the length of the field with the first hand launch. The first winch launch was equally nice with a steep climb without the application of a launch mode. I used the 5? degree tip joiners for increased stability during launch and thermalling at long range with my ancient eyes. All up weight was 68 ounces including 3.5 ounces of nose lead and the CG was set at 64 mm. After the joy of the first successful launch waned, I noticed that Supra was still at about winch height although not encountering any thermals. A quick trip around the field, down in the valley and way upwind did not produce a thermal encounter, but did produce a 5+ minute flight. The model has great L/D and good speed range. It will go fast and it will slow down for min sink or thermaling. A quick dive test and inverted flight showed a nose heavy condition so .5 ounces were removed for the next flight. Again the dive test and inverted still showed a nose heavy condition so another .5 ounces were removed. Now it was right for my style of flying. It will pull out of a dive test in 4-500 feet and flies inverted with little elevator. A few adjustments were needed for the elevator compensation in landing mode, but it isn't quite there yet. However landings are easily controlled as the model will slow to a walk even without a head wind. The large rudder provides good control for those last minute jinks for the tape. The Supra is a well designed, beautifully constructed thermal duration model. It is very stable on launch and in flight with no bad habits that I could see on these first flights. Judging from the winch launch results, the carbon wing should be strong enough for F3J (I will test it this weekend in Phoenix). Thanks again to Airtronics, Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for their help with this project. Contact me directly with question regarding assembly or setup. See you in Phoenix. Don Richmond San Diego, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Molded Supra Raw Weights
Hi Don My plane #31 is finished and flying. So I cant give you raw weight but my AUW is 61 oz. Originally with the plane balanced at Drelas recommended CG (92 mm) it took 4 3/4 oz added to the nose making the AUW of the plane 62 3/4 oz. By final set up (dive test and more dive test) I removed 1 3/4 oz to get the plane to fly like a want a TD ship to fly. I could be wrong but I believe the 92 mm CG is more of a European F3J set up. Just my opinion but what a plane at 61 oz. Maurice - Original Message - From: Donald B. Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:22 AM Subject: [RCSE] Molded Supra Raw Weights This message is directed to a small group of new molded supra owners, and probably not of interest to other. I have an excel spread sheet I would be happy to send to any other Molded Supra owner who has not yet started assembly of their newly arrived baby. I only ask that you weight all the raw kit parts and add your weights to the sheet and return the sheet to me. I am not a weight weenie, but I started this exercise to try and determine a couple of things. First thing I was curious about was the exact weight difference between the carbon wing lay-up and the standard wing lay-up. Barry talked around it and didn't give a precise answer. The next thing, I am trying to understand why some people are talking about having to add on the order of 4 oz of nose weight to balance. Was this due to variations in fin, stab, boom, or pod weights, or is this inherent to the molded design? What have I found out so far with raw weights from 2 planes (#34 and #48), left and right wing tips and joiners are VERY equal in weight - good. Besides the type of wing lay-up, the most variation in weight has shown up in the tail boom. One boom weighed 63g and the other 73g, on the order of a 15% variation and who wants extra weight aft of the cg. don RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] RE: JR 368's vs Airtronics 94761
I'm using them on my Supra. They seem to be a faster and more responsive than the 368s I have on most of my other planes. Maurice - Original Message - From: Rob Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: [RCSE] RE: JR 368's vs Airtronics 94761 I'm planning to try the Airtronics 94761 in lieu of the venerable JR 368s on my Thermal Dancer. I'm planning to use these servos on all surfaces. Is this overkill or a misapplication of this servo? The airtronics servo has performed impeccably as a rudder servo on small electric helis like the T-Rex and is used on Futaba 401 gyros without any problems. In comparing the JR and Airtronics servo they're nearly identical on paper. I've included the details below. What are others opinions? Thanks in advance. DS368 Premium Digital Servo:Micro Specs Torque: 53.0 oz/in Speed: .21 sec/60° Dimensions: 0.50 x 1.12 x 1.17in Weight: .80 oz Bearing: n/a Motor Type: Cored Airtronics 94761 Torque - 55 oz/in Speed - .15 sec/ 60 Dims - 1.06 x .47 x 1.18 Weight - .80 oz Bearing - 2 Motor Type - Coreless Rob From: John D Frugé [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:07 AM To: Chip Willis; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] The 368's are sold pending funds. Yep, The (368's) are like Gold. I keep some in the garage in a drawer just in case the US doller falls to low I still will have something :) Hehe, John Fruge - Original Message - From: Chip Willis To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: [RCSE] The 368's are sold pending funds. Man, guess I should have asked for more. lol. thanks guys! chip No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date: 1/12/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Supras done
Hi All I finished my Kennedy Supra last night. It went together really nice. If the fog clears and it doesn't rain I'll fly it today. I was hoping for 61 to 62 oz but came out a little heavier at 62 3/4 even though I was very careful with glue and install. What really surprised me was I had to add 4 1/2 oz of lead to the nose (using the Kennedy 1200 mil battery pack) to reach Dr. Drelas recommended CG of 91.5mm (actually set it at 92mm). I'm hoping when I fly the plane that I will be able to take some of that nose weight out. I like a rearward CG anyway. I'll let you know how the first flights go Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Supras done
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supras done I use a Great Planes C.G. Machine. http://www2.gpmd.com/image/g/gpmr2400.jpg The gauges are in inches and millimeters and you could actually put the pointer half way between a number. I just set it on 92mm because it was easier. Is it really accurate to a 1/2 mm? I have no idea. But I just got back from flying the Supra in a 10 mph wind gusting to 15 with intermittent rain and the CG seems to be fine for a starting point. Maurice - Original Message - From: Bert Magin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supras done Not picking on Maurice or (may the soaring gods forbid) Dr. Drela but could someone explain to me the balancing method and tools used to place a CG to 0.5mm accuracy? Bert RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Hi Tech 5125MG Digital Wing Servo (DS168s)
I would also like to know if the DS168 is a better choice than the 5125. I was thinking of using them in the new Supra for ailerons. Maurice - Original Message - From: Hank Schorz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: S Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Hi Tech 5125MG Digital Wing Servo I'm curious as to the pedigree of the DS 168. It looks an awful lot like the HS5125. Originally I was using DS5125's and had so many problems, they reside in the misc only for planes you don't care about drawer. I'm afraid to use them. I've been using DS368's for ailerons and HS5245's for flaps, rudder and elevator. -Original Message- From: S Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:37 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Hi Tech 5125MG Digital Wing Servo I have been using the JR wing servo, DS168, on all four surfaces of my Erasure Xtreme with positive results. http://www.jrradios.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRPS168 Steve Meyer SOAR, LSF IV RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Supra tow hook location
Just got my new Supra from Kennedy Composites today and its beautiful. Does anyone know the tow hook location in inches or mm. from the nose cone line or the boom line on the pod? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Contact Winch Doc
I've been trying to reach the Winch Doc to bye a winch. Is there a phone to call or another email address than the one on the site? It doesn't seem to work for me. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: WAS - Re: [RCSE] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE ? NOW: Where is Tom?
Kevin you left out the most important discussion of all fall or winter threads. Skag or no Skag. That is the question! Oh no! Maurice - Original Message - From: Kevin Sheen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: WAS - Re: [RCSE] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE ? NOW: Where is Tom? Where is Tom Nagel when we need to break log jams like this (with his quick wit)? Must be the precursor for the annual Bambidon vs. PETA people, followed by the downwind turn debate and then the annual 'Hate Sal' thread. Help me out people, have I missed any upcoming discussion topics here? Where is Gordy with a 'what have you flown lately'? obligatory soaring content: Tri-State Soaring finished the season this past Sunday with a contest in Pittsburgh's Hartwood Acres. Pete Carr kept his death grip on the season totals in both Unlimited and RES. Reece Brock won unlimited for the day and Dale Soergel won RES. Thanks to everyone who flew with us this year! Kevin www.ts3.org At 01:47 PM 9/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: snip, snip, snip, snip, snip, snip, snip RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Just a reminder.
There has been a time of prayer made available at Visalia for the Fallfest Contest. It will be held at the flagpole 7:15 am to 7:30 am, Saturday and Sunday, before the pilots meeting. This will give us a chance to thank God for his many blessings, to continue to lift up those whose lives have been torn apart by the terrible disaster in the south and to ask for Gods protection and blessing on the contest. This time of prayer will be open to all faiths and your participation by leading a portion of it would be greatly appreciated, please contact me either by email or phone. Pastor Maurice Podder Sonrise Church of God Bakersfield, Ca 93307 661 3031881 AMA# 600692 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Prayer Time at Visalia
The purpose of Prayer at Visalia is not to cause contention among the contestants or to demean the faith of others. But to make available a time for those who desire to pray. I understand that there are those who do not believe as I do and that there are those that do not believe at all. And yes I know there are those that will post humorous or even spiteful replies to this post. But I do not believe this to be true of Robs question so I will answer it to the best of my ability. Prayer will be offered, at the flagpole, at 7:15 am, Saturday and Sunday, to our Father, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, in the name of Jesus Christ and will conclude in the same manner. Please forgive me for not being more specific in the first post and thank you Rob for your concern. Pastor Maurice Podder - Original Message - From: Erica and or Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Prayer Time at Visalia Hey now, Which god? *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erica Frank Rob Carter II I believe in nothing; everything is sacred. I believe in everything; nothing is sacred. --The Chink On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has been a time of prayer made available at Visalia for the Fallfest Contest. It will be held at the flagpole 7:15 am to 7:30 am, Saturday and Sunday, before the pilots meeting. This will give us a chance to thank God for his many blessings, to continue to lift up those whose lives have been torn apart by the terrible disaster in the south and to ask for Gods protection and blessing on the contest. If you would like to help, by leading a portion of the prayer, please contact me either by email or phone. 661 3031881 Pastor Maurice Podder Sonrise Church of God Bakersfield, Ca 93307 661 3031881 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Prayer Time at Visalia
There has been a time of prayer made available at Visalia for the Fallfest Contest. It will be held at the flagpole 7:15 am to 7:30 am, Saturday and Sunday, before the pilots meeting. This will give us a chance to thank God for his many blessings, to continue to lift up those whose lives have been torn apart by the terrible disaster in the south and to ask for Gods protection and blessing on the contest. If you would like to help, by leading a portion of the prayer, please contact me either by email or phone. 661 3031881 Pastor Maurice Podder Sonrise Church of God Bakersfield, Ca 93307 661 3031881 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Visalia??
Probably not before the middle or end of next week. That's when it's been available in the past. I did talk to Larry yesterday and he said there were around 260 contestants already. Maurice - Original Message - From: Lee Cox To: soaring mail page Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:45 PM Subject: [RCSE] Visalia?? Has anyone seen a pilot or frequency list for Visalia yet ? LeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Model finish
Hi Dan The gel coat on the Ava fuse will stand up to Acetone with no problem. So that's the first thing to try. Second is some 2000 wet and dry paper. Be careful the gel coat isn't that thick. Then finish polish it with Wrights Silver Cream. This also works very well on scratches and other mistakes on Moldies. Maurice - Original Message - From: Dan Ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Model finish Tried, toothpaste, thought you guys were pulling my leg but a few suggested it...it didn't work, niether did clorox cleanup, 409, goo gone and others. I'll go with the rubbing compound. Plan B will be a flying buddy with a serious paint booth, maybe we'll get creative :) On 9/7/05, David Portwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try tooth paste David -Original Message- From: Dan Ahearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 7:58 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Model finish I guess it's like a new car before you get that first door ding... Before assembly, I had my new Ava safely in it's bag. The fuse and tailboom were in the side pocket. The result is some of the carbon powder from the inside of the tailboom found its way onto the nosecone leaving some dark streaks on the white finish. The finish doesn't seem to be marred, I just can't seem to get the marks out. It's not the end of the world but it is so daggone good looking! Any suggestions? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Foam F3F
I'm wanting to get a foam slope racer that can handle light and strong winds. The problem is there is to many choices and I don't have the experience to choose. The planes I'm interested in are: 60 JW (Bowman) Super Tron or Screaming Banshee-60 (Tuffplanes) Gulp SR or GV-60 (Steve Drake) S-15 (Wowwings) Any suggestions that would help me make a decision would be appreciated. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] F3B winch for TD?
Can an F3B winch be used for normal TD launching if the monofilament is taken of and 290 test line put on. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] WWW.GIT-R-BUILT.COM
One of the most impressive things about Dave is his eagerness to help other modelers. I just put a Tragi 705 together and had questions about the flap linkage. Dave was not only one of the first to reply he willing entered into an on going dialog that made my built not only successful but easy. That's a pretty selfless act from someone who is in the business of building up planes. I hope to meet Dave some day and thank him, maybe at Visalia, but until now this will have to do. Maurice - Original Message - From: ROBERT M GELLART [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] WWW.GIT-R-BUILT.COM Just to back up what Jim said, Dave Hauch is a great guy to work with and does a top of the line job getting a ship together. He is very dedicated to soaring and is providing a valued service for fliers from all over. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2-NIB DS 168s for trade
I have 2-NIB DS 168s I want to trade for 2-NIB DS 368s. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Tragi 705
Ok Tragi 705 people I know this may sound dumb but does the short control horn insert go in the flaps and if so do you grind of the part of the long insert that sticks of the top of the aileron? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Getting ready to buy an Res
Hi All I'm getting ready to buy an Res. My choices are Ava, Danny and Topaz. Question: Which one has the strongest wing and will withstand a full pedal launch on a 6 volt Real Balls winch? Which one has the best thermal turn and quickest reaction to rudder? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Still using aileron differential?
I to saw Phil's post about Dr. Drela's message. Because of my respect for Dr. Drela's academic achievements (Masters in Aeronautical Engineering and Professor at MIT) and his real world experience I immediately tried his suggestion on my XP4 DLG. I reduced the differential from 55% to 0 and increased the rudder to aileron coupling from 60% to 90% (yes I realize Mark Drela flies without rudder coupling but my left thumb isn't as good as his). The improvement was immediate. The plane track better and I was able to fly in much tighter turns without falling off. I did feel that the nose wasn't coming into the turn quite enough so I went to 100% rudder coupling with ailerons and again a noticible improvement. But it still wasn't quite as coordinated a turn as I wanted. So I added back 20% differential and for my real world test it was perfect. So after what I felt was a successful test with noticible improvement on my DLG I decided to try reducing differential on my 128 Escape Lt. The improvement from reducing differential and increasing rudder on my Escape were just as obvious. End results were I went from 65% differential to 35% and from 30% rudder coupling to 70%. As with the hand launch the improvement was immediate. So for me I would have to say Dr. Drela is right about the use of aileron differential. Because though I don't fly with rudder and ailerons uncoupled, as Mark Drela does, reducing differential with increasing rudder coupling (to compensate for the weak left thumb) defiantly made an improvement in the handling of my XP4 DLG and my 128 Escape Lt. Just what I think Maurice - Original Message - From: Robert Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 2:56 PM Subject: [RCSE] Still using aileron differential? I recently followed a link provided by Phil Barnes to a message posted by Dr. Drela. The message was that Dr. Drela did not use aileron (flaperon) differential in DLG planes. The rational was that the differential caused some unwanted pitch changes. My questions concern the application of Dr. Drela's theory to the larger planes. I wonder whether you all (experts): 1) still use aileron differential in 2 and 3 meter planes and 2) still couple the ailerons to the flaps (so they act as flaperons) Robert SamuelsSt. Louis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Futaba 9C update (90deg flap)
Hi All I just received this information from Futaba so I thought I would pass it along. If your transmitter has a serial number that begins with a number greater than 0206.., it does not need an update. If the beginning of the serial number is less than 0206.., it needs the update. For example my transmitter serial number is 020613228 so I don't need the update. I hope this clarifies which transmitters need the update and which ones don't. This also means to get 90 degs flap you are going to have to us the OFS master and 2 mixers as I stated previously and as it shows on my web page http://www.nonsilence.com/soaring/9c Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Johnny Berlin
Anyone have a phone for Johnny Berlin. I want to order some servos. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Futaba 9C (Secret untold)
Hi John I believe the problem you are talking about is the V-tail glitch that was fixed with a modified chip. This caused one side of the ruddervator to have no compensation is Butterfly. I have never heard a problem with flaps in Butterfly. The untold secret is the OFS function that allows you to change the center of the servo electronically giving you 90 deg. flap travel. You can read about this on my 9C set up page which was graciously published for me on the Soaring index. http://www.nonsilence.com/soaring/9c/ Maurice - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: [RCSE] Futaba 9C I've had a 9C for two years now and I've always struggled to get full flaps in Butterfly. I've had all kinds of workarounds involving offsets, longer servo arms, travel volume, etc. I finally called Futaba to ask about the situation and they told me to send the radio in; there is a software update that fixes the problem. I was surprised! Anyone else hear of this? JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Futaba 9C (Secret untold)
That's right John. Without the use of the OFS function 45 deg of travel is all you can get. For some reason Futaba expects you to want as much flap travel up as down. It may have to do with power ship requirements I don't know. But with the OFS function you can go as high as 80 deg actual servo arm travel. Normally though that will bury the arm at one end or the other. You will probably have to make new linkage unless you have a lot of adjustment on you rods. Maurice - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Futaba 9C (Secret untold) Maurice, Thanks for your link. I might try a step by step set up tonight. The v-tail problem was in any radio prior to 6/30/02. I bought my radio after that. This is another problem. I only get about 45º of flap travel on the servo arm. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:18:56 -0700 To: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Futaba 9C (Secret untold) Hi John I believe the problem you are talking about is the V-tail glitch that was fixed with a modified chip. This caused one side of the ruddervator to have no compensation is Butterfly. I have never heard a problem with flaps in Butterfly. The untold secret is the OFS function that allows you to change the center of the servo electronically giving you 90 deg. flap travel. You can read about this on my 9C set up page which was graciously published for me on the Soaring index. http://www.nonsilence.com/soaring/9c/ Maurice - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: [RCSE] Futaba 9C I've had a 9C for two years now and I've always struggled to get full flaps in Butterfly. I've had all kinds of workarounds involving offsets, longer servo arms, travel volume, etc. I finally called Futaba to ask about the situation and they told me to send the radio in; there is a software update that fixes the problem. I was surprised! Anyone else hear of this? JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] RE: Futaba 9C
Hi Nathan I called Futaba today and asked if there was a update that allowed for 90 deg flap instead of 45 and they said yes. I also asked if I was misunderstanding and this was actually the V-tail update and they assured me it was for the flaps. So I'm sending both of my 9CHs in one at a time. Maurice - Original Message - From: Nathan Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: [RCSE] RE: Futaba 9C John, Darwin, can you be more specific? I too have an early model 9C, and have always had to fiddle quite a bit to get flaps to go as far as someone with a JR, Airtronics, MPX, etc... I buy most of my planes used, and always have to tear down the flap setup and redo the linkages and so forth. It's a major PIA! I had my 9C upgraded a while back to fix the V-tail bug (like maybe two years ago?), but appearantly there was no change to the flap settings... So is this real? I have heard nothing about it on the 9C newsgroup... Regards, Nathan Woods Also an architecthmmm, maybe it IS a conspiracy! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Starlight 3000
Get an Escape Lt. from Aero Models. It only weighs 67 to 68 oz and can be ballasted to 93 with no problems. I had a Starlight 2000 and though it was a good plane it weighed 76 oz and didn't handle or land anything like my Escape Lt. You can see mine and the way I modified the rudder at: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 and this is the link to Aero Model page. http://www.aero-model.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=429 If it's not blue and orange it's not the real light. Maurice BTW: The Starlight 2000 and 3000 have less rudder area than the stock rudder on the Escape Lt. and would be much harder to modify for US TD. - Original Message - From: Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: [RCSE] Starlight 3000 Any opinions,experiences with the Xtail Starlight 3000? Thanks, Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
flourescent monokote / ultracoat removalBrent Put on some gloves get in a well ventilated area and get out the Acetone. Use it liberally and you will be able to pull almost all the color. At the most there will be a light haze left that will not show through the new covering. Be sure to check all glue joints before recovering. Especially if the part was built with CA (Acetone can dissolve CA) Hope this helps Maurice - Original Message - From: Douglas, Brent To: Soaring Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal OK, this was a mess... I'm uncovering a rudder, and the monokote is seperating from its color - eg, the clear layer comes off, but the color is stuck. It's almost impossible to get off with a blade, is there another technique? My next step usually involves a sanding bar to loosen it up, but if you've got a better way, I'm open. Thanks, B RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] New XP4 and great Service
Hi All I put up some pictures of my new XP4 on RC Groups. It's about halfway down on page 6 at handlaunch. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304140page=6#post3582576 I would have been done sooner but Fed Ex destroyed my first set of wings. But Denny got another set out to me in a week. This kind of service and the fact that the XP4 is one of the best DLG around is the reason I'll be going back to Polecat for more. And when I do I'll know if anything goes wrong Denny will find a way to take care of it as fast as possible. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Skeg - rod or blade?
Hi Tom I have used 1/4 carbon dowel from CST for the past 4 years. I would not suggest a carbon tube because it will not hold up to the forces that occur during spot landing. You can see my installation on my Escape Lt. at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 Go about half way down the page. If you have any questions that I can help answer please let me know and thank you for all the help you've been in the past. Maurice - Original Message - From: Tom Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: [RCSE] Skeg - rod or blade? The past few years, for TD ships I've built removable G10 plug-in nose skegs. The blades weigh about .30 oz, which means that if I wanted to occasionally fly without one I'd have to add a bit of weight to the nose to compensate. In addition, they're kind of a pain to build and install. Building a new ship now and thought perhaps using a 1/4 carbon tube, which would plug into a brass tube embedded in the nose and protrude about 1-1/2, would be a cleaner solution. The actual skeg weight is negligible (.05 oz) so flying without it would require no rebalancing, plus it's a near no-brainer to build. Might be just a tad less dangerous, too. Anyone noted any detriments of using a carbon tube? Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Skeg - rod or blade?
For got Tom. You don't wont to be longer than an 1 from the end of the rod to the nose cone. If you go much over an inch you will start to see breakage especially in shortly cut grass where the rod is sticking into the grass roots or if there is a gravel base to the grass. Maurice - Original Message - From: Tom Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: [RCSE] Skeg - rod or blade? The past few years, for TD ships I've built removable G10 plug-in nose skegs. The blades weigh about .30 oz, which means that if I wanted to occasionally fly without one I'd have to add a bit of weight to the nose to compensate. In addition, they're kind of a pain to build and install. Building a new ship now and thought perhaps using a 1/4 carbon tube, which would plug into a brass tube embedded in the nose and protrude about 1-1/2, would be a cleaner solution. The actual skeg weight is negligible (.05 oz) so flying without it would require no rebalancing, plus it's a near no-brainer to build. Might be just a tad less dangerous, too. Anyone noted any detriments of using a carbon tube? Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Timer for Fresno Classic
Is anyone planning on going to the Fresno Classic 4/2-3 that has not found a timer yet? If so I need one and would be glad to time with you. I'm on Ch 45 or 44. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Escape Lt. (The real Big Blue)
Hi All It seems that with all the talk about Lt. moldies that the Muller Escape Lt. (the true blue and orange Escape Lt. is only available from http://www.aero-model.com/ ) is being over looked. I have two of them and at 67 oz. (that's right both of them) they are the stiffest and most durable Lt. I have ever owned. Also there is an available two bar ballast system of 9 oz. and 26 oz. Yep a Lt. that is strong enough to carry 26 oz. of ballast. Do you need 26 oz. of ballast? Probably not but it's nice to know it's that strong. The only draw back to the plane is the rudder is a little small for US TD. So I made a larger rudder for it. You can see it at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 . NO!! the blue doesn't disappear in the sky and the orange on the bottom is almost iridescent in the sun. In fact this is the only plane I've had for years that I didn't have to put a stripe on the bottom of the wing and flashers on the leading edge to find it up high. I love my Big Blues Maurice PS: I know one person out there that ought to get one just so he would be all blue through and through :-)) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Escape Lt. (The real Big Blue)
Pat you are right that there are many Muller dealers and Skip Miller is a very good person to deal with. But the only place you will get the true Blue Lt., 67 to 68 oz., tiplet uncut (mold mark shows but not cut through), tiplet servo pocket unfinished to save weight, tiplet wiring not installed to save weight, boom and tail lightened but extra Kevlar from nose to behind wing joiner for spot landings is http://www.aero-model.com/ This is not a standard Escape with a little lighter lay-up as Skips Escape Lt are (most 75 oz at best) but a specially ordered plane by Aero Models. You won't get it any where else and if it's not Blue and Orange it's not the real deal. Maurice - Original Message - From: Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Escape Lt. (The real Big Blue) Maurice, Aero-Model not the only place to get Muller Products, heck they are not even the best place to get them. Skip Miller carries the complete Muller line as well. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: [RCSE] Escape Lt. (The real Big Blue) Hi All It seems that with all the talk about Lt. moldies that the Muller Escape Lt. (the true blue and orange Escape Lt. is only available from http://www.aero-model.com/ ) is being over looked. I have two of them and at 67 oz. (that's right both of them) they are the stiffest and most durable Lt. I have ever owned. Also there is an available two bar ballast system of 9 oz. and 26 oz. Yep a Lt. that is strong enough to carry 26 oz. of ballast. Do you need 26 oz. of ballast? Probably not but it's nice to know it's that strong. The only draw back to the plane is the rudder is a little small for US TD. So I made a larger rudder for it. You can see it at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 . NO!! the blue doesn't disappear in the sky and the orange on the bottom is almost iridescent in the sun. In fact this is the only plane I've had for years that I didn't have to put a stripe on the bottom of the wing and flashers on the leading edge to find it up high. I love my Big Blues Maurice PS: I know one person out there that ought to get one just so he would be all blue through and through :-)) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Chanllenging Saturday contest in Bakersfield (Escape Lt. wins)
Hi All Bakersfield has one of the few Saturday contests held on a monthly bases and this one was very challenging. It had been raining for 2 days and it was still raining Saturday morning when we (the faithful and stalwart) arrived at the field around 9 am. By 10 am the rain stopped but up came a wind (steady 8 mph gusting to 11mph) from the wrong direction which made all the launch and land down wind. Flights were 3/5/3/5/5 and lift was spotty to non existent. In fact is was so challenging that some good pilots with good planes (Pike Superior, Nyx even a Super V) couldn't make 3 min. I started with 9 oz of ballast (77 oz) in my Escape Lt. but found it flew better without it (68 oz) and finished the contest that way. Luck was on my side. I made all my landings, only missed time on the last flight and the Escape Lt. brought home the win. Something to see was Dan Chandler sloping his Pike Superior of the edge of a building at about 100' for over 3 min. He took second. If you want to fly contest on Saturday Bakersfield is the place to be. Every third Saturday of the month. Come and join us next month on the 19th. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Coverite's 21st Century Fabric
Does anyone know if Coverite's 21st Century Fabric covering can be used in the same applications as Solortex. I'm looking for something that has a little more abrasion resistance than standard low heat shrinks or packing tape to cover a Zagi. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners, need input
Hi Stan For me the best all around ship is the new Escape Lt. from Aero Model http://www.aero-model.com/ProductDe...x?productID=429 It only weighs 68 oz (it will go up on a good hi-start or a weak winch with no problem) but can carry, safely, up to 24 oz. of ballast. So you have a plane that is light enough for the deadest days and strong enough to carry 9 or 24 oz. (this is the 2 ballast bar set available from Aero Model for $49.00) of ballast for the windiest days. I love the plane and have 2. You can see them and the slight mods that I made to them on rcgroups/thermal/Escape Lt. or use the link below. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...690#post3174690 Maurice - Original Message - From: Stan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Digest soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners, need input Had all but decided on Tempest when the water got muddy. Someone(read Edgar Soaring Junkie) suggested I consider the Sharon. So, I'm asking for input. Probably the main criteria I have is that it be able to hi-start. I do not have a winch readily available to me(and the club winch has seen better days). I am able to get 23#'s of pull out of my hi start. Which was adequate for my Artemis 5mph +, but really iffy for 1-3 mph. That aside, does it require constant attention with the sticks? I'm a Sunday Flyer and I am looking for 'relaxed' flying. I have some open class flying experience. I have a Sun 3.2m electric powered by Hacker 50 that I am able to handle, but never really got comfortable with the Artemis V tail. Any and all suggestions would be appreciate. Yes I'm the same guy who asked about the Tempest last week. Appreciate the band width. Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners, need input
Sorry the links didn't work. Here are corrected ones. http://www.aero-model.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=429 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 - Original Message - From: Stan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Digest soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners, need input Had all but decided on Tempest when the water got muddy. Someone(read Edgar Soaring Junkie) suggested I consider the Sharon. So, I'm asking for input. Probably the main criteria I have is that it be able to hi-start. I do not have a winch readily available to me(and the club winch has seen better days). I am able to get 23#'s of pull out of my hi start. Which was adequate for my Artemis 5mph +, but really iffy for 1-3 mph. That aside, does it require constant attention with the sticks? I'm a Sunday Flyer and I am looking for 'relaxed' flying. I have some open class flying experience. I have a Sun 3.2m electric powered by Hacker 50 that I am able to handle, but never really got comfortable with the Artemis V tail. Any and all suggestions would be appreciate. Yes I'm the same guy who asked about the Tempest last week. Appreciate the band width. Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Lunch Zagi race at Fresno?
Hi all Would anyone be interested in having a Zagi race at lunch, Saturday, April 2 at the Fresno classic? If there is interest I could contact the CD to find out if it would be ok. I made a preliminary contact with Zagi and they said that they might donate something for the prize. This would be an any Zagi race (Zagi airframe with any power) and the format would be discussed if there is interest. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] WTB: Blaster
Any body got a blaster they would like to sell? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Escape Lt.
Hi All Just put up a couple of pics of the Escape Lt. at the field today both with their new rudder. See at: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 or go to RC groups/sailplane/thermal/escape lt. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Escape Lt. build
Hi All I just put up some new pics of the build of my Escape Lt. The new rudder does make a lot of difference. So as far as I'm concerned George Joy was right. It does fly better with a bigger rudder. You can see the pics at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 or go to RC Groups/thermal/Escape Lt Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] The Escapey wins almost 5mins ? :-)
Ah the California myth. Come to Bakersfield Jan. thru March and you will see the infamous DO DO air. Maurice - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [RCSE] The Escapey wins almost 5mins ? :-) Lets see, January 1, in Bloomington, Indiana, rain all day, temps just above freezing, wins 10mph+...did I mention rain? Oh yeah I forgot it the clouds were so low that the tops of the stadium parking lot light poles were often invisible. So launches were tap tap tap, off or lose your plane. Johnny Berlin has x ray eyes and would lose his Duck for what seemed like more than a minute, then we'd spot it floating off to one side. Tasks were 4mins and even the guys with woody RES ships managed that. Lets hope that a what $1,500 all up molded ship can get 5mins with a full winch launch...in California. Congrats Maurice on the win. But you'll have to watch your typing, you posted that it was tough 5min rounds, when likely you must have meant 15's. :-) Gordy Louisville...in the rain and cold again :-( RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] The Escapy wins
Just had our first club contest of the year in Bakersfield and my new Escape Lt. brought home the win. It was a tough fought contest with 5 five min. flights. Because I had won the last contest of the year I had to go first (club tradition) and the air was terrible. I ended up 33 seconds short on the first round and as soon as I landed here came the lift. End result was I had to make up 23 points from the start but the Escape Lt. did it. The last round battle was with Clarence Nickels but I beat him. How bad? By 1 point. Yes after 5 rounds of 5 min flights in very hard air it ended up a 1 point contest. I've started building my second Escape Lt. but AeroModels was out of rudders. So I decided to build one. George Joy had mention that they perform better with a larger rudder so I decided to make one while waiting for the molded one to arrive. You can see it on RCgroups under Thermal-Escape Lt. or check it out at the link below. I'll be putting up some build pics as I go along with this one. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3174690#post3174690 Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Escape Ballast Bar
Any body have a 24 oz Muller Escape ballast bar they would like to sell? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy
Flew my new Escape Lt X-tail for the first time today (it came out at 68 oz). What a great first day on a plane. It lived up to all my expectations and more. So now my Pike Superior Lt X-tail (76 oz) will have to move over to back up. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy
Hi Craig I could be wrong but I believe you have a SL not an Lt. On the Samba site they show the SL V-tail at 1900 gr. (67 oz.) the Lt X-tail they show at 2140 gr. (75.5 oz) Maurice - Original Message - From: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Maurice, Is that the right weight for your Pike Lite? My V-tail Lite weighs 66, I don't the cross tail is 10 ounces CG. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Flew my new Escape Lt X-tail for the first time today (it came out at 68 oz). What a great first day on a plane. It lived up to all my expectations and more. So now my Pike Superior Lt X-tail (76 oz) will have to move over to back up. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy
I love my Pike Superior and have been flying it for 2 yrs. But it's really hard to find a molded X-tail, with a strong wing below 10 oz wing loading (the Escape is at 9.4) and especially that can be ballasted. Most of the Super Lites have no ballast tube and say to be cautious about strong launches. The Escape has a tube that accepts a 9 oz bar or a 24 oz bar. So it can be flown from 9 to almost a 13 oz wing loading. Of course I wouldn't want to push the Escape to hard or dork it to hard with the 24 oz bar in it. Maurice - Original Message - From: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Fair enough, I don't know what it is. Got from a guy and put it together, was shocked at the weight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Hi Craig I could be wrong but I believe you have a SL not an Lt. On the Samba site they show the SL V-tail at 1900 gr. (67 oz.) the Lt X-tail they show at 2140 gr. (75.5 oz) Maurice - Original Message - From: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Maurice, Is that the right weight for your Pike Lite? My V-tail Lite weighs 66, I don't the cross tail is 10 ounces CG. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Flew my new Escape Lt X-tail for the first time today (it came out at 68 oz). What a great first day on a plane. It lived up to all my expectations and more. So now my Pike Superior Lt X-tail (76 oz) will have to move over to back up. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy
Yep My Pike is strong as an Ox. One of the reasons is the Lt. has a all carbon center panel. It is a stiff plane and it is defiantly a consistent winner with expert or intermediate which can't be said about a lot of planes. Maurice - Original Message - From: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy I have a tube in the SL and the center section is mondo strong, I have no hesitation getting into it. I think it's actually beefier than my regular Pike. I like it a lot better than the Xtreme. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy I love my Pike Superior and have been flying it for 2 yrs. But it's really hard to find a molded X-tail, with a strong wing below 10 oz wing loading (the Escape is at 9.4) and especially that can be ballasted. Most of the Super Lites have no ballast tube and say to be cautious about strong launches. The Escape has a tube that accepts a 9 oz bar or a 24 oz bar. So it can be flown from 9 to almost a 13 oz wing loading. Of course I wouldn't want to push the Escape to hard or dork it to hard with the 24 oz bar in it. Maurice - Original Message - From: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Fair enough, I don't know what it is. Got from a guy and put it together, was shocked at the weight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Hi Craig I could be wrong but I believe you have a SL not an Lt. On the Samba site they show the SL V-tail at 1900 gr. (67 oz.) the Lt X-tail they show at 2140 gr. (75.5 oz) Maurice - Original Message - From: Craig Greening [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Maurice, Is that the right weight for your Pike Lite? My V-tail Lite weighs 66, I don't the cross tail is 10 ounces CG. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [RCSE] From a Piker to an Escapy Flew my new Escape Lt X-tail for the first time today (it came out at 68 oz). What a great first day on a plane. It lived up to all my expectations and more. So now my Pike Superior Lt X-tail (76 oz) will have to move over to back up. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Dry up spilled CA??
Hi Brian Easiest thing to do when you get your respirator is also bye a large can of Acetone and some plastic gloves. It will cut the CA right away. But if the surface would be damaged by the Acetone the only other option I know is to wipe it with paper towels and then shot it with activator to get it over with. Once its fumed out it should no longer cause the allergic reaction. Maurice - Original Message - From: Brian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: [RCSE] Dry up spilled CA?? Folks I'm very allergic to CA fumes..I do keep a 2 oz bottle in my cupboard to use OUTSIDE in front of a fan... (Foolish I know) Lately I have been suffering the worst cold and cold symptoms I have ever had... This evening while looking in my cupboard I discovered I have accidentally knocked over my CA bottle..The lid came off and 1/2 the bottle of CA has seeped out all over my cupboard...I have been breathing these fume for a couple hours each evening and thinking I had the worst cold of my life... Now that I have discovered this, what is the best way to delute, dry it up, clean it up?? Any ideas.?? I'll have to go to Lowes and get a respirator to wear while trying to clean it up..I have had to get out of there till I can clean it up with out breathing any more fumes..It is CA+ and is very sticky and still damp and putting off plenty of fumes.. Thanks for any ideas...Brian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/04 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Escape wiring plug
Does anyone happen to have a picture of there installation of the Green MPX 6 pin plug that comes with an Escape for the wiring harness? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Escape wiring plug
Yes please and what is done with the male end in the wing. Does it float free or is it glued in also? Maurice - Original Message - From: Steve Richman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Escape wiring plug Do you want to see it glued in place in the fuse and wing? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/12/17 Fri PM 12:02:41 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Escape wiring plug Does anyone happen to have a picture of there installation of the Green MPX 6 pin plug that comes with an Escape for the wiring harness? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Rectangular Carbon Joiner
Does anyone have a rectangular carbon wing joiner they would consider selling. Needs to be a minimum of .5 x .573 x 13. A little larger or longer I can sand and cut. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Transmitter bags
Hi Jeff You might want to consider these gloves. They work great and you don't have to try and find the hole to stick your hand in to get to the stick after launch. Plus your finger tips an thumb are still able to grip the fuse for launch. If it's really cold once you get your plane settled you can take your hands of the sticks just long enough to slip the ends over you fingers and you still have full feel on the thumb. I love them and there only $13.00. http://www.newberryknitting.com/detail.cfm?stylenum=A2X Maurice - Original Message - From: Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rcse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: [RCSE] Transmitter bags Ok, a few years ago I saw some bags used for slope and foul weather flying. They were canvas with a window, and flannel inners... Cuffs to put your hands in and fly. Keeps hands nice and toasty. Anyone know who makes them? If they are no longer made, does anyone on this list own one? -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Recommended inexpensive 12v battery charger
Be sure to bye the Wal-Mart deep cycle marine battery not the standard car or truck battery. I have been using their largest, I believe it's the 29 series (210 reserve amps), for 5 years. They have a smaller 24 series that is 110 amps. The charger is the EverStart for Boating/RV. It is a Fully Automatic/Manual Battery charger and rated at 10 amps. It says it's for 12 volt Marine/Deep cycle batteries but it works well on any battery and is stable enough to be used as a 12 volt DC power supply. Maurice - Original Message - From: Stuart A. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: [RCSE] Recommended inexpensive 12v battery charger I am putting together my first winch. I'll be using a Walmart standard battery to power it and need to purchase a charger. There are all kinds of lead-acid battery chargers at Walmart. Unfortunately my regular fast charger for my NiCads won't handle lead-acid, so I need to buy yet another piece of equipment! :) Are there things I should look for when looking at the various chargers? I think the common brand is Schumacher and there are usually 3 - 5 different models on the shelf. I was looking to spend $50 or so. Thanks in advance! Stuart RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Clubs around Lompoc
Are there any glider clubs in or close to Lompoc Ca.? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Contact Ed Whyte
Does any one have a recent email or phone for Ed Whyte. The link on Hilaunch kicks back and I'd like to find out about his stabs and rudder. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] CVRC Scores now online at www.rcsoaring.com
Where on www.rcsoaring.com do we find them? Maurice - Original Message - From: Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: [RCSE] CVRC Scores now online at www.rcsoaring.com ...thanks to Phil Hill and his dedicated CVRC staff... Joe == Joe Nave NetMeister, Inc. Cisco InterNetwork Design Integration 1146 N. Central Avenue #112 Glendale, CA 91202 - 818.247.5340 Fax 818.247.5073 == What do you want to network today? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] FCM at Visalia
Don't forget you can attend all of the functions at Visalia Fallfest without missing your Sunday morning service. FCM (Fellowship of Christian Modelers) is sponsoring a Chapel service at 7:00 am, Sunday Oct 3rd before the pilots meeting. All are invited to attend and if you would like to help with this service please contact Bill Rakozy [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Maurice Podder [EMAIL PROTECTED] . BTW: The first 25 to attend the service will receive a free T-Shirt and Bumper Sticker from FCM. That means those that decide to be part of the service by helping with the singing or other areas of service will get their shirts first. So get there early! Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Dual Rate / Exponential
I use a Futaba 9CH with triple rate. I believe the ability to change rates while in-flight is very useful especially in conjunction with exponential. Though there are times when the full throw specified for a given model is very necessary (recovering from mistakes, pop-offs, broken lines, crosswind landings, ground effect on landing and many more), in most cases, without a very light thumb, it's to much for general thermal flying. Dual rate (in my case triple rate) in conjunction with exponential, when set up correctly, can help to solves this problem. The following is an example of a standard 6 servo set up that I use on my Open Class Sailplanes. Though this example will show use of triple rate you can set up almost the same with dual rate. You must be sure that exponential and triple/dual rate are actuated by the same switch. TRIPLE/DUAL RATEEXPONENTIALUSE First position on triple or dual rate/exponential switch: Launch, Land and Turbulent air. AILE -100% rt. -50 % lt. -50 % ELE-100 %up -25 %down -35 % RUD -100 %rt. -45 % lt. -45 % Second position on triple or dual rate/exponential switch: Most flight conditions. AILE -70%rt. -0 % lt. -0 % ELE-85 % up -15 %down -25 % RUD -80 % rt. -25 % lt. -25 % Third position on triple or dual rate/exponential switch: Light thermal conditions. AILE -55%rt. -20 % lt. -20 % ELE-75 % up -10 %down -20 % RUD -65 % rt. -10 % lt. -10 % As you can see the exponential setting is reduced as the throw is reduce. In this way you still retain good response. When the exponential cut-off point is reached (about 1/2 stick on most transmitters) full response is restored. My conclusion: The use of Triple/Dual rate in conjunction with Exponential helps to overcome many of the problems that result from to much or to little control throw for a specific situation. I believe if it used correctly it can help many improve their flying skills. Just what I think. Maurice - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:30 AM Subject: [RCSE] Dual Rate / Exponential Got a bit of a debate going locally on the merits of dual rate and exponential. Some folks like it, some don't. Any comments from the exchange on this one? We were thinking about doing an overview article for RCSD but the opinions are mixed and strong. Looking for any feedback from users or non-users. If the article is written, I'll provide attribution as appropriate. For the record, I use negative exponential for ailerons on launch and when working real light thermals. My normal control authority is fast so this helps with over controlling in touchy situations. I'm told this is wimping out but it seems to work for me. On-line or off-line comments welcome. - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Virusus
Am I the only one that thinks it strange when Norton or McAfee always seems to have an mediate fix for what ever the latest virus is? Maybe I just see conspiracy everywhere :-) Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Virusus
Maybe I'm just paranoid but it sure seems like it doesn't it? Maurice - Original Message - From: Ken @ York County Soaring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:17 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Virusus I wonder , could it be that they design them so that We have to buy there products to fight them. Um! Ken York County Soaring Lighthorse Team YCS Silence is Golden -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Virusus Am I the only one that thinks it strange when Norton or McAfee always seems to have an mediate fix for what ever the latest virus is? Maybe I just see conspiracy everywhere :-) Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fast and Stable
From your experience: What is the best handling and fastest 60 foamy. And will any foamy keep up with the 60 moldies? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] You KNOW you want to fly in a CONTEST THIS SATURDAY
You KNOW you want to fly in a CONTEST THIS SATURDAY. Then join us for the SOUTHERN SAN JOAQUIN SOARING SOCIETY SATURDAY TD CONTEST in BAKERSFIELD. LOCATION: Earl Warren Junior High School, 4615 Mountain Vista Dr., Bakersfield, CA DATES: March 15, 2003 (Saturday) EVENT: Precision duration thermal contest. SCHEDULE: Pilots check-in 9:00 AM to 9:45 AM. Pilots meeting at 9:45 AM. First launch at 10:00 AM. TASKS: In order: 3, 5, 7, 8, and 8 minutes tasks. The last round has to start before 12:15 P.M. Scoring: 1 point per second, with a 1-point penalty for each second over the task time. Landings will be full circle to a 25-foot, 25-point tape. Two pop-offs will be allowed with CD's discretion allowing more if circumstances warrant. Open winch by rounds but you will be called up if flying lags too much, again, at CD's discretion. Entry fee is ONLY $5.00. This is an AMA sanctioned contest so AMA membership is required. If you have any questions, please contact the Contest Director, Jerry Tonnelli, at (661) 832 - 6048 (evenings) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work (661) 327-4778 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO REACH EARL WARREN JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL IN BAKERSFIELD: From the NORTH, via Hwy 99: Take Hwy 99 to Bakersfield; get off at the White Lane exit. Turn RIGHT; follow White Lane for 4.7 miles to Mountain Vista Drive. Turn LEFT, staying to the left, drive .9 miles to Trailblazer Drive; turn right and park in the parking lot or along Trailblazer Drive. From the SOUTH, via Hwy 99: Take Hwy 99 to Bakersfield; get off at the White Lane exit. Turn LEFT; follow White Lane for 4.7 miles to Mountain Vista Drive. Turn LEFT, staying to the left, drive .9 miles to Trailblazer Drive; turn right and park in the parking lot or along Trailblazer Drive. Pilot: The grass field is approximately 900' long and 550' wide with a 6' high cyclone fence on three sides. Outside the fence are two rows of houses and then open land. Landing outside the fence or east of the grass field will score you a zero round. East of the grass field is the school, drinking fountains and restrooms. The distance to the turn around is a little more than 550' and usually right into the wind. If you come the night before, try some of Bakersfield's famous Basque food. Hope to see you, and thanks for your support, Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Zurichs
Any one going to be at Fresno with Zurich's to sell? Looking for rose or gray Lt. to Med. Maurice
Re: [RCSE] Futaba 9CHF SWITCH LOCATION
Yes! The 3 position (launch/normal/speed) is on the left were we need it for gliders on the Heli version. Only the 9Z allows you to change trim assignments. You can get most of the questions answered at http://www.futaba-rc.com/faq/faq-9c.html Maurice --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, does the Heli version of the 9 channel have the launch/normal/speed switch on the left side of the radio? Can you change the trim setting for the elevator from the right side to the left side? TIA, Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Launches are terrible
I had the same problem with a plane and was at the point were I was puting down trim on launch and it still was hit and miss on launches. Then one of the members in our club in Bakersfield asked is your tow hook open or closed? What he ment was is the angle of you the hook portion of the hook more than 90 deg. (open) or les than 90 deg. (closed) to the bottom of the fuse. If the hook is open (more than 90) it's possible to pop off every time even though the plane is set up correctly. I now have bent my hooks to about 80 deg. to the bottom of the fuse and can go up with the nose pointing up with out fear of a pop off. I hope this helps. Maurice --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Seay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am flying (or possibly more correctly, trying to fly) a high quality open class TD ship (no names as it has nothing to do with that). It really is an excellent flyer, when I can get it in the air. However, in the many months that I have had it, I've had about 75% of my launches end in pop- offs. I am fast reaching a point of total disgust. I must be doing something wrong but have not a clue as to what. The guys in the club are helping all they can but we're not making any progress. The spec calls for a 5-1/6 CG (from LE) with a conservative position being 5-1/16. I started out there and over time I ended up with the CG at 4-7/8 with the tow hook about 1/4 in front of that. Getting tired of the pop-offs, I decided to start over again. I moved the CG back to 5- 1/6 and the tow hook has been moved back as well. The tow hook, being 1/4 to 3/8 in front of the CG is probably further ahead than it should be but I would expect that to flatten the launch. If anything, the launching has gotten worse. I use a 'launch mode' but do not any elevator adjustment in that mode. I have tried my launch mode with... -flaps only, more flaps, more flaps -flaps with a touch of aileron camber -flaps and ailerons cambered together, more, more -flaps with a little less aileron than flap. No matter what I do, the plane seems to launch with the nose too high and almost always pops off at some point (usually at a lower height but sometime when it starts to arc over). The only elevator I add during the launch, if any, is a little down in some sort of vain effort to prevent the nearly inevitable pop off. I even get a popoff some of the time with a full pedal launch. HELP! Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Emerald internal linkage
Has anyone encountered cracks or delamination at the exit holes of the internal linkage tubes on the Emerald. If not great. If so is there a fix other than external linkage? Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
