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Lee Renaud never made the Monterey kit. It was made by Astro Flight (Rolan Bouche (SP)). Arnie --- Dick Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a scale up of a mag sketch for my first sailplane. If I remember right it was called the plank. A red herring sized slope wing with an un-tapered wing, No computer mixers so a sliding aileron servo pushed back and forth by by the elevator servo. Almost as hokey as the mixer from the Todi I flew much later. If I remember correctly my first powered model was a Supertiger 23 powered Rumpelstat from a scaled up RCM article. First real sailplane kit was a Lee Renaud Monterey. First DLG was an Uplink. Dick Barker Port Angeles, WA Turning HLG around RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Right! Guess I had a small senior moment. I just checked the box that had the nice L/D and sink speed vs forward speed. AFI on Cheryl Place, LA (no zip). Dick Lee Renaud never made the Monterey kit. It was made by Astro Flight (Rolan Bouche (SP)). Arnie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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My first sailplane was a Goldberg Electra. I know that it is not a *true* sailplane because it is powered but the plane is based on the Goldberg Gentle Lady. In any case, I did glide the Electra around a bit after I got it up to a safe altitude grin. After the Electra got beat up, then came the first of several Goldberg Gentle Ladies. I'm glad that they still make them in kit form and an ARF version. Aloha to all on RCSE, Al Battad - AMA #506981 -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:07 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] First Sailplane Before Meyer and Hauch do a transformer thing on the other thread, I know this topic will take off because it hasn't been brought up in some time. Good one for a long weekend... My first Sailplane was a FF Jasco Thermic 50 that I wedged a Kraft brick into and crashed many times, it was frustrating as heck. Covered with tissue and dope. My first Sailplane that really flew was a WindDrifter, and I have one now that is the second one I built that looks like my first, and is over 20 years old. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Before Meyer and Hauch do a transformer thing on the other thread, sorry about that, that was suppose to just go to Steve, clicked the wrong box. dh I know this topic will take off because it hasn't been brought up in some time. Good one for a long weekend... My first Sailplane was a FF Jasco Thermic 50 that I wedged a Kraft brick into and crashed many times, it was frustrating as heck. Covered with tissue and dope. My first Sailplane that really flew was a WindDrifter, and I have one now that is the second one I built that looks like my first, and is over 20 years old. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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I built a 2M LIL BIRD by Ray Hayes and Sky Bench, just 2 1/2 years ago. I did fly Doug Adams Big Bird first , but made an Arboreal Landing (landed in a tree). Now I'm hooked! Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:06:41 -0500 Subject: [RCSE] First Sailplane Before Meyer and Hauch do a transformer thing on the other thread, I know this topic will take off because it hasn't been brought up in some time. Good one for a long weekend... My first Sailplane was a FF Jasco Thermic 50 that I wedged a Kraft brick into and crashed many times, it was frustrating as heck. Covered with tissue and dope. My first Sailplane that really flew was a WindDrifter, and I have one now that is the second one I built that looks like my first, and is over 20 years old. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Dave Thornburg's (all sheet balsa) Zephyr (initially with one-channel escapement) circa 1968. Any other older-than-dirt contemporaries still alive out there? Good Lift!
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Ah, takes me back. When I lived in England I bought a foam-and-obeche slope soare. Never flew it there, but flew it off the towline a couple of times here. Then I built an Olympic 99 (not an Oly II, the real old-timer with the 6409 airfoil). Fabulous plane, required minimal pilot interference. Would come back from downwind if the wind was 2 mph. This was 1975. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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My first was a Gently Lady, which met a quick demise. Followed quickly by a HOB 2x2 which I still have today. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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My first was an electrified gentle lady. It lasted about 20 seconds before the motor battery fell out the bottom hatch with the RX and RX battery in tow and it spiralled in. After that a long succession of gentle ladies, olympics of various sizes and one sophisticated lady. Corey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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At 01:16 PM 6/30/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Thornburg's (all sheet balsa) Zephyr (initially with one-channel escapement) circa 1968. Any other older-than-dirt contemporaries still alive out there? Good Lift! Hi Skip, I'm still flying a Graupner Clou, though I no longer use my Kraft Custom reed set. My Ecktronics Nomad needs new tissue, and its Kraft K3VK has long given up the (galloping) ghost. -Fritz
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My first R/C saiplane was Dave Robelen's Kestral rudder-only plane which I beleive was in Model Airplane News, approx 1970. The sheeted hollow core wing had no spars, T-Tail, 6 ft, tissue doped over balsa. I used a Controlaire Galloping ghost TX on 27.145, single channel RX with transistor switching powering a Adams Actuator (no relation). Still have the entire RC system. Wish I could find the schematics for the switching unit. That was followed by Mark Smith's Windward with a Kraft KP3C ratio (still have it too), and then a Graupner Cirrus. The Cirrus served me well enough all the way through my LSF 5 Slope flight (4 C alkalines near the CG). I have been flying a more "robust" Cirrus (my second, but I still have the original at 35 years) for 5 years and it is going STRONG. If you guys have been to Visalia the last 4-5 years, you will have seen the Yellow Bird appearing to nearly fold the wings on the current launch winches, then flatten the wings on a so-call zoom. Everyone generally yells at me not to fold the wings! After 30 years, I think I know how to fly it by now. Besides, it is probably the oldest flying plane there both in actual age as well as design. Working on molds to reproduce the fuse, and have the clear canopy pulled. It doesn't do well in the wind, but it sure outclimbs most current ships. As for Gordy and HLG, I have my original 66" HLG I flew in Dave Thronburg's 1979 HLG contest. Guys, if I show up with it at anyDLG contest, can I get it "grandfathered" in as an exception to fly it as having been a pioneer in HLG contests? It originally had a Themral sensor in it too! Chris Adams LSF 348 Lvl 5 (#8) Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] First SailplaneFrom: Fritz Bien [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri, June 30, 2006 12:04 pmTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.comAt 01:16 PM 6/30/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Thornburg's (all sheet balsa) Zephyr (initially with one-channel escapement) circa 1968. Any other older-than-dirt contemporaries still alive out there? Good Lift!Hi Skip, I'm still flying a Graupner Clou, though I no longer use my Kraft Custom reed set. My Ecktronics Nomad needs new tissue, and its Kraft K3VK has long given up the (galloping) ghost. -Fritz RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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My first RC glider was an Ecktronics Nomad, a Ted Strader design, which used a Citizenship LT-3 receiver and a Bonner escapement, with a CG Venus tube transmitter. Despite being rudder only, I managed to successfully slope soar it many times. This was around 1962. My first RC vehicle was a relatively slow boat with a Babcock servo, and I ran it in the swimming pool a lot before installing the above mentioned radio gear in the Nomad. Because of this prior exercise, I experienced none of the directional confusion so commonly suffered by neophytes as they turn and begin flying toward themselves. The transition to proportional control (JR Century 7 system) roughly two decades later was relatively smooth. -- B^2 Bill Bunny Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Wanderer 1978 with Kraft radio. Took 40 hrs to build. Lasted about 5 seconds and could fit it back in the box it came in. David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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I did a scale up of a mag sketch for my first sailplane. If I remember right it was called the plank. A red herring sized slope wing with an un-tapered wing, No computer mixers so a sliding aileron servo pushed back and forth by by the elevator servo. Almost as hokey as the mixer from the Todi I flew much later. If I remember correctly my first powered model was a Supertiger 23 powered Rumpelstat from a scaled up RCM article. First real sailplane kit was a Lee Renaud Monterey. First DLG was an Uplink. Dick Barker Port Angeles, WA Turning HLG around RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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At 07:23 PM 6/30/2006, Bill Bunny Kuhlman wrote: My first RC glider was an Ecktronics Nomad, a Ted Strader design, which used a Citizenship LT-3 receiver and a Bonner escapement, with a CG Venus tube transmitter. Despite being rudder only, I managed to successfully slope soar it many times. This was around 1962. This was my first successful kit sailplane, also. The .020 took it out of harms way before I had to give it a control. I had the Shows pulser on my Citizenship transmitter (27.255) and used the Mighty Midget motor to drive the rudder, switching circuit from American Modeler Magazine. I was using a Ace K3VK receiver by then because I wiped out all of my previous receivers (I had several unsuccessful attempts before that.) My first successful sailplane was a scaled plane from Model Airplane News describing Frank Bethwaite's world record. My first (not successful) R/C sailplane was a converted Jasco Floater. I never could get the Lorentz-like receiver to work without engine vibration. The radio was the Airtrol box sold by AHC: $9.95 plus parts. I learned that salt water does a job on electronics with a 45 volt battery to provide current flow. Several other semi-successful sailplanes came along, using the LT-3 with SE2 compound escapement, the until I realized that others were flying just up the street at the Torrey Pines glider-port. The transition to proportional control (JR Century 7 system) roughly two decades later was relatively smooth. Transition to full Propo was when the AMA got 72 MHz from the FCC (1967). It was the Bonner 4RS (red/white) mounted in a Graupner Foka 4 bleach-bottle-fuselage sloper. -Fritz RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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I had a GL but never really learned to fly on it. I found out that you really need more than one or two rubberbands on the wing when you have a stiff up-start. I built a HOB 2x2 that summer. I still have the 2x2 but most of the original wood is gone! Both were flying with a Cox Sanwa 2 channel, 2 stick rig with dry cells. Sorry, my first tx was fully proportional. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Hey Jack!, West Carrollton High School was my main flying field in the 70's... and my high school '79-'81. I spent many days soaring there. My first RC sailplane was an Airtronics Square Soar. I also flew an original 100 sailplane and an Airtronics Questor there, as well as some powered stuff like a Model Builder Dragonfly. Do you remember any of the other guys who flew there? Everett Wick with his Pokey and Viking? His buddy Rich (Schafer?)... That was a great site - huge. I had my first hour flight there. Now covered with... you guessed it, sports fields. Andy Page Seattle --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Iafret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, what got me hooked was a Graupner Cirrus when I lived in the Dayton Ohio (mid 70's) area and belonged to the W.O.R.K.S. club (strictly power). One other guy (forgot the name know but he drove a comptition Vette) and I went to the West Carrolton High School and used his high start to launch. After about five launches and coming down to land the plane just circled for ten laps at 20 feet without loosing altitude and I without knowledge hooked my first thermal and rode it out for what seemed like an hour (probably five minutes). That was it for me, but it took awhile to commit. Really never got serious until I came to Michigan and started flying sailplanes with the Paragon in '84. Met a bunch of people that flew sailplanes rather than power and that was it for greasy kids stuff. So, first plane was the Cirrus and the favorite is the Paragon. Remember, Paragon's Forever. Jack Iafret Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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considering my line of work Hi Dana What's you line of work? Maurice Sorry, probably should have mentioned. I serve a United Methodist Church as pastor. D.
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Wander 72. Built and bought 4. Crashed them all. Finally got smart enough to join Harbour Soaring in 1979. 20 minute thermal 1st weekend out. Downhill since. Dan Fink
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Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: How many can remember their very first R/C sailplane? Mine was one of the first Oly 650's. Wish I still had it for posterity, but elected to fly another aircraft while a newbie flew my Oly, bad idea... House of Balsa 2-T. Very stable plane, broke down easily for transport, but I would not recommend a T-tail for someone teaching themselves to fly -- too fragile. Luckily it was also easy to repair! Still, many happy memories of watching it soar against the sunset in those early years... -- Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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I remember mine since I just started a few years ago. An EPP Highlander as often recommended on this list. It is 39 ounces with standard radio gear in it, and by golly it thermals quite nicely. I used it to finish all my LSF I tasks. Now that I am onto my LSF II tasks I have graduated to a 3M Marauder. I must agree with those that say bigger flies better cause I sure love it! Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: How many can remember their very first R/C sailplane? Mine was one of the first Oly 650's. Wish I still had it for posterity, but elected to fly another aircraft while a newbie flew my Oly, bad idea... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Gentle Lady...hand launched that thing 'till I could make a turn and fly it back...too chicken to put it on a high start. After umpteen crunched wing tips and repairs (it always looked new!) I finally put it on a high start a couple of months later and the obsession had begun! After a couple of folded wings, I rebuilt her with a Goldberg electric power pod and a Master Airscrew feathering prop and I thought I was in heaven. I could fly for more than 5 minutes at a time now. Thermals you say? Added wing tip extensions to 100 span, lost the power pod and learned how to use a winch. I still think, stock, it is one of the easiest planes to fly. I have remnants of that Gentle Lady hanging up in the hanger. Just don't have the nerve to toss out a piece of my history. Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Jim Carlton wrote: Gentle Lady...hand launched that thing 'till I could make a turn and fly it back...too chicken to put it on a high start. Oh, and I think that was circa 1981 or so, fyi. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Mine is easy to remember as well since I just started back in 1977. It was one of the original Craft Air Drifter's with the 72 Wing. I actually had ordered the Windrifter before getting the Drifter done. It was a good move on my part since I had the Drifter destroyed already before the Windrifter reached my door. I decided to go ahead and order the Sailaire shortly there after. It has just gotten better every hear thereafter. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: Stuart A. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 5-Soaring Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] First Sailplane I remember mine since I just started a few years ago. An EPP Highlander as often recommended on this list. It is 39 ounces with standard radio gear in it, and by golly it thermals quite nicely. I used it to finish all my LSF I tasks. Now that I am onto my LSF II tasks I have graduated to a 3M Marauder. I must agree with those that say bigger flies better cause I sure love it! Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: How many can remember their very first R/C sailplane? Mine was one of the first Oly 650's. Wish I still had it for posterity, but elected to fly another aircraft while a newbie flew my Oly, bad idea... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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OK, what got me hooked was a Graupner Cirrus when I lived in the Dayton Ohio (mid 70's) area and belonged to the W.O.R.K.S. club (strictly power). One other guy (forgot the name know but he drove a comptition Vette) and I went to the West Carrolton High School and used his high start to launch. After about five launches and coming down to land the plane just circled for ten laps at 20 feet without loosing altitude and I without knowledge hooked my first thermal and rode it out for what seemed like an hour (probably five minutes). That was it for me, but it took awhile to commit. Really never got serious until I came to Michigan and started flying sailplanes with the Paragon in '84. Met a bunch of people that flew sailplanes rather than power and that was it for greasy kids stuff. So, first plane was the Cirrus and the favorite is the Paragon. Remember, Paragon's Forever. Jack Iafret Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Mine was an Early Bird. Kind of a Gentle Lady type plane but with a glass fuse that looked a lot cooler to me at the time. I believe that was 1979, maybe 1978. I still have the fuse. It seems to have followed me through a good dozen moves or more. It survived the tosses off the baseball backstop we used before we found the slope! -- Greg Smith Slope Soaring Resource http://www.slopeflyer.com From: Simon Van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Radius Systems Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:39:59 -0800 To: 5-Soaring Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] First Sailplane How many can remember their very first R/C sailplane? Mine was one of the first Oly 650's. Wish I still had it for posterity, but elected to fly another aircraft while a newbie flew my Oly, bad idea... -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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My first glider in the UK was a Keilkraft model called the Invader. True stick and dope construction. This was around 1957, before the advent of remote control. I would hand tow this thing up, then let it loose and get lots of exercise going to retrieve it. First RC's was a Mark's Models 'Windfree.' Had lots of fun with that and a high start till I decided to let some kid launch it. He let go of the plane and left little bits of this beautiful model all the way down the launch strip. Next was the Aquilla. Spent many happy hours sloping this model over the cliffs on Vancouver Island. Chris At 05:25 PM 11/29/2004, you wrote: Started building a Craftair Windrifter SD-100 in the spring of 1978, and then moved off to college in Ft. Wayne Ind. from Michigan and learned to fly in L.O.F.T., just wish I could remember which one of the guys was my first instructor, but everyone in the club was a huge help with all my questions and problems. Thanks Mark Soaring Is Life!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. http://www.tuneit.ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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a Prophet -- originally designed as an electric. reverted back to glider status. The actual name for the sailplane was a Lucifer, so considering my line of work, this was a good change. caught and rode my first thermal with it -- flew for 45 minutes and was totally hooked. Dana
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I had some Janco FF model that I built without CA and was covered with tissue and dope, and converted to R/C, (Jammed a Kraft 2 channel brick into). I had a little rig that was similar to a F3J handtow device, but it didn't have a pulley, just a handle the string fed through. Learned to fly the hard way, by myself, one crash and slow repair at a time. At 03:39 PM 11/29/2004, Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: How many can remember their very first R/C sailplane? Mine was one of the first Oly 650's. Wish I still had it for posterity, but elected to fly another aircraft while a newbie flew my Oly, bad idea... -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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An Ecktronics Nomad was my first RC 'ship, circa 1960. Inside was a Citizenship LT-3 receiver running off two AA batteries and driving a Bonner escapement to control the rudder. The transmitter was a CG Venus. (Do they even _make_ 67 1/2 volt batteries any more?) Still have everything but the Nomad. Did a lot of slope soaring with mine, but also got it in the air with a high start of strip rubber, and a couple of times with a removable power pod (Cox .020). I still have the plans for the Nomad and have recently been contemplating building one with an FMA Direct M-5 and two micro servos for rudder and elevator. As the original Nomad had the option of elevator - driven by the rudder escapement - this isn't too far off track. At Purdue University in 1963-64, I built an entirely sheet balsa sailplane patterned after a German RC design published in an Aeromodeler Annual. (Still have the Annual, too.) High start launches only. Not too impressive, even at the time. But I found out just a few years ago that Frank Deis, winner of one of the first NATS soaring events, credited me with getting him started in RC soaring. Our first tailless sailplane was Dave Jones' Raven which we built in 1984 and which we still manage to take out and fly every once in a while. And we haven't built a horizontal stabilizer for ourselves since then. Butyrate dope and Ambroid glue still produce aromas which carry a lot of memories. How do four and a half decades go by so fast? -- B^2B2Streamlines.com Bill Bunny Kuhlman 'a resource for aircraft modelers' [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] P.O. Box 975http://www.b2streamlines.com Olalla WA 98359-0975 USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] First Sailplane
My first sailplane (and first RC plane) was a Hobie Hawk with a Kraft 2 channel brick. My brother bought a Graupner Cirrus at the same time and we went out to fly them without a clue as to how to do it. We had never even seen an RC sailplane fly. Some way, we figured out how to launch on a hi-start and started flying. After flying for a month without ever catching a thermal, we were really getting discouraged. We had probably flown through hundreds of thermals but didn't know how to recognize them. I told my brother that free flight planes caught thermals all the time and all they did was go up and go into a circle. So...The next flight I launched my Hobie Hawk, trimmed in a little left and a little up to put it into a circle, put my transmitter down on the ground and watched. After a few turns, I remarked to my brother that it didn't seem to be coming down! It centered a nice thermal and started going up. We watched it go higher and higher for 30 minutes without picking up the transmitter. At 30 minutes it disappeared into a cloud and my heart rate doubled in the next 5 seconds. I grabbed the transmitter and dove it back down out of the cloud and brought it in for a safe landing. That was almost 30 years ago and I'm still flying sailplanes! And I still have that Hobie Hawk plus a few more to keep it company. Buddy Roos -Original Message- From: Simon Van Leeuwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:40 PM To: 5-Soaring Forum Subject: [RCSE] First Sailplane How many can remember their very first R/C sailplane? Mine was one of the first Oly 650's. Wish I still had it for posterity, but elected to fly another aircraft while a newbie flew my Oly, bad idea... -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] First Sailplane
As if by some cruel and dirty trick, my first sailplane was the FVK bandit. In incredibly difficult plane for a first timer. NASTY tipstalls especially with 8 sub c cells. The good thing? Is learned how to FLY sailplanes/hotliners much faster than I would have with out this horrible flying thing of a majig RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
