Re: reset a request parameter to null

2003-01-21 Thread Andreas Winkler
Do you use a page for your forward link or do you use an action?
As I know you can only use reset if you forward to the action.

Andreas
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Subject: RE: reset a request parameter to null


 I tried but failed, unfortunately.  I guess the *operation* will be kept
as
 a request parameter if mapping.findForward() is used, EVEN if you remove
 *operation* from your ActionForm.
 Thanks for your attention.
 Denis

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 From: Larry Zappeterrini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:42 PM
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 Subject: RE: reset a request parameter to null


 Using your second below method but without including the parameter
operation
 in the
 query string should accomplish. So the code would look like:

 return new ActionForward(mapping.findForward(success).getPath() +
 ?versionId= + versionId);

 Any calls to request.getParameter(operation) should return null after
 that.

 Larry

 -Original Message-
 From: Denis Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:30 PM
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 Subject: RE: reset a request parameter to null


 thanks for your reply.  just as this email's subject, I am trying to set a
 request *parameter* to null.
 Denis

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 From: Sri Sankaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:28 PM
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 Subject: RE: reset a request parameter to null


 It isn't clear what you are trying to achieve;  however one thing that
jumps
 out is your use of request *attributes* as opposed to request
*parameters*.
 When you append a URI thusly:

   foo?operation=barbaz=gak

 you are providing *parameters* and not attributes.

 Sri

 -Original Message-
 From: Denis Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:19 PM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: reset a request parameter to null


 Hello, all,
 What is the easiest way to set the request paramter to null?
 I have OneForm and TwoForm, both of which have a field of operation.
After
 OneAction is finished, the request will be forwarded to TwoAction. The
wierd
 thing is that I cannot reset the operation parameter. I tried in the
 OneAction:
 request.setAttribute( operation, null );
 OneForm.setOperation( null );
 request.removeAttribute( operation );

 return new ActionForward( mapping.findForward(
success ).getPath()
 + ?operation=versionId= + versionId );

 All above approaches do not work.  The last one comes really close to set
 operation=.  Does anybody have a decent way to set the parameter to
null?
 Thanks. Denis



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RE: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Andrew Hill
Probably.

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Hey all,
does anybody develop with easy struts and eclipse ?

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RE: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread ROSSEL Olivier
 Hey all,
 does anybody develop with easy struts and eclipse ?

Yep.


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Re: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Hi,

I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my struts apps ;)
I think some people use it too.

Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few bugs...to be 
continued...

Thx,
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AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Softwareentwicklung Hauschel
I've a problem creating forms with the plugin,
i cannot change the webapp folder for forms, it's always defaultroot.

take a look at the attached screenshot !

anny idea ?

best regards
Fred Robert Hauschel


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 Hey all,
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AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Softwareentwicklung Hauschel
Hey, you are the guy,
who isn't reachable

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Hi,

I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my struts apps ;)
I think some people use it too.

Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few bugs...to
be continued...

Thx,
-emmanuel

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Getting ServletConfig and ServletContext.

2003-01-21 Thread Simon Kelly
Hi,

Does anyone know how to access ServletConfig and ServletContext from within
any class derived from the org.apache.struts.action.Action class?

Cheers

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AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Softwareentwicklung Hauschel
Hey Emmanuel,
is there a documentation about using easy struts ?

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Hi,

I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my struts apps ;)
I think some people use it too.

Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few bugs...to
be continued...

Thx,
-emmanuel

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Re: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Yes it's mesorry

I think somebody send me a patch about this bug, I going to release a new version this 
WE.
This bug appear when you add support to a tomcat (Sysdeo) projet

-emmanuel



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 Hi,
 
 I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my struts apps ;)
 I think some people use it too.
 
 Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few bugs...to
 be continued...
 
 Thx,
 -emmanuel
 
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  does anybody develop with easy struts and eclipse ?
 
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Re: Merging struts-config.xml files for different modules..

2003-01-21 Thread Michael Nascimento Santos
I think XDoclet may help you.

http://xdoclet.sf.net

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Moderador SouJava - www.soujava.org.br

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 In Struts 1.1 B3 your can put all your strut config files in one line with
 coma separated.

 Dont know about web.xml, sorry

 -D
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 Hi
 I have a project with multiple modules.
 Development of the various modules and unit testing
 is done by different teams and each is having its own web.xml
 and struts-config.xml files.
 While integrating I need to merge all the web.xml and struts-config.xml
 files..
 I dont want to do this merging manually.
 If someone is having some utility do this, it would be highly useful.
 Or any ideas on doing it the smart way ??

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [OT] Eclipse IDE

2003-01-21 Thread unicoletti
Quoting Daniel H. F. e Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all,
  I know that it is very possible that this subject was already discussed
 here, but i couldn't
 search on archives (why is this resource disabled?).
  I'm beginning to design a software development process specification as a
 job task. It will
 include, for instance, a list of all tools, software, frameworks, etc,
 necessary to develop
 Web-based solutions in J2EE platform.
  And after doing a lot of research, i've found that open-source world has two
 leading IDEs:
 Netbeans and Eclipse.
  I'd like to hear about experiences with both of them. In my preliminary
 tests i guess it was
 difficult to work with Eclipse with focus on Web development. For instance,
 it doesn't have a cool
 JSP editor like Netbeans.

That's true, even tough refactoring features and plugins for struts code
generation outweight it.
Last week I checked out Intellij Idea and it has great jsp editing support like
struts tags completion, also it looks like it's more lightweight than Eclipse or
Netbeans.

 I've tried an Eclipse plugin, but its features are
 inferior than
 Netbeans offered features.
  But i liked Eclipse's plugins feature. And it has a better aproach to manage
 code quality than
 Netbeans.
  So, opinions?
 

Eclipse is probably the best you can get for free.

 Best regards,
  Daniel.
 
 PS: Sorry for possible language mistakes. English is not my native language.
 
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Re: (Un)expected behaviour in Action instance variables?

2003-01-21 Thread Adolfo Miguelez
Hi,

fortunately, after more testing theory is right and it happends that should 
happen. You are right.

It is my fault since I was testing the variable after previous asignment so 
the variable got the different values because I was asigning a new value in 
every execution, previously to the logging. The pointer is anyway unique, 
since the Action instance is the same.

My next attemp will be to use ThreadLocal variables to try to made every 
value of the variable take different values for every execution (Thread). 
Not very polite perhaps, but I save to pass the request in every accesor 
invocation.

Apologises and thanks,

Adolfo







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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:49:51 -0600

However, it is ok to cache certain things as instance/class variables in
your Action class provided they meet certain requirements. For instance,
things like session EJB remotes can be cached as instance/class variables
since they are both thread-safe and are not altered by requests (you will
need to get and store the remote in your constructor for instance - if you
plan on doing lazy initialization, ensure that your code is synchronized).
Declaring a EJB home as a local variable for instance  and fetching a new
one every time a request arrives would result in degraded performance.

In summary, visualize hundreds of threads using the same instance/class
variables of your Action class simultaneously. The threads should not alter
the state of these variables (unless such a change is synchronized and it 
is
ok for subsequent threads to see the change - an example of this would be
lazy initialization). If any method calls are invoked on those variables,
visualize the same hundreds of threads calling those methods 
simultaneously.
If those methods are thread-safe as well, then it is ok to declare it as an
instance/class variable. Otherwise, declare it as a local variable.

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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:08 PM
Subject: (Un)expected behaviour in Action instance variables?


 Hi all,

 some of our teams have defined an instance variable in an Action. Wrong
 policy as said in the online docuemntation:


 ***

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/building_controller.html#action_d
esign_guide

 Only Use Local Variables - The most important principle that aids in
 thread-safe coding is to use only local variables, not instance 
variables,
 in your Action class. Local variables are created on a stack that is
 assigned (by your JVM) to each request thread, so there is no need to
worry
 about sharing them. An Action can be factored into several local 
methods,
so
 long as all variables needed are passed as method parameters. This 
assures
 thread safety, as the JVM handles such variables internally using the 
call
 stack which is associated with a single Thread.
 ***

 Such a variable is only declared in the class variable declarations an
 instantiated in perform() executions.

 My first impression was that they should refactor the code to move this
 variable to local as the paragraf above claims. However, we decided to
test
 the execution so we opened two browsers. The surprise was that, despite 
is
 true that there was a unique Action, there were a different instance of
the
 variable for each of two browsers. Furthermore, navigating along the 
app,
 such a variable was not overridden by the other execution and two
instances
 exist (one for each browser).

 Automatically I wondered about the paragraf above, and where was my
 missuderstanding. I suppose if the variable were either static or
 instantiated in the Action constructor, the paragraf would be right. But
not
 in our situation, I guess.

 Can any of you figure out what am I missuderstanding? Is the paragraf
right?
 Is a different space in memory created for each instantiation, right? 
How
 and who knows which one to use to cover each request? The servlet 
engine?
It
 shouldnt seems, I guess testing out of a web environment the same should
 happends. How can the Action class maintain a reference for each 
instance
of
 the variable with a unique declaration (i.e. pointer)?
 :-(

 I feel an authentic newbie,

 regards,

 Adolfo.

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missing some step(s) in i18n; setLocale() works, IE's settings dont

2003-01-21 Thread Jagdish Arora

Hi all,

Thanks for you help.

I tried to convert my struts application to support multiple languages.  However, it 
seems to me that application is not picking up the language setting set in IE (google 
does show up in Spanish, though).   However, If I use setLocale in my LogonAction, the 
application does display the Spanish text (specified in 
ApplicationResources_es.properties) correctly.

These are the steps that I did:
1) Put ApplicationResources.properties and ApplicationResources_es.properties under 
WEB-INF/resources
2) Put a content type UTF-8 declaration on top of all JSPs
3) Put (Craig/Apache)'s SetCharaceterEncodingFilter.java under filters in src.
4) Put the mapping of filter for ActionServlet in web.xml
5) Change the language of IE to spanish (the Google page does show up in Spanish).
6) Also tried to set the Locale in session in LogonAction.execute(), in which case, it 
picks up the correct file


I am detailing the directory structure below, in case someone thinks it could be the 
issue.

.ear
|.war
||__servlet classes (some modules use HttpServlets)
||__filters
|  |___SetCharaceterEncodingFilter
|.jar
 |__com.fdt.lcp.* (actions/forms/models/daos/ejbs/utils)

 
The struts.jar is not a part of the ear file.  It is under appserver/lib directory.  
The Struts application runs fine, but internationalization is not working.

thanks a bunch,

Amrinder

PS: This the change that I made to my web.xml to put filter mapping for action:

!-- Filter to set character encoding on each request --
filter
filter-nameSet Character Encoding/filter-name
filter-classfilters.SetCharacterEncodingFilter/filter-class
init-param
param-nameencoding/param-name
param-valueUTF-8/param-value
/init-param
/filter

!-- Define filter mappings for the defined filters --
filter-mapping
filter-nameSet Character Encoding/filter-name
servlet-nameaction/servlet-name
/filter-mapping

 


Re: Getting ServletConfig and ServletContext.

2003-01-21 Thread Jagdish Arora
myAction extends Action {
   ServletContext sc = getServlet().getServletContext();
   ServletConfig scf = getServlet().getServletConfig();
}

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 Hi,

 Does anyone know how to access ServletConfig and ServletContext from
within
 any class derived from the org.apache.struts.action.Action class?

 Cheers

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Re: Getting ServletConfig and ServletContext.

2003-01-21 Thread Gemes Tibor
2003. január 21. 10:58 dátummal Simon Kelly ezt írtad:
 Hi,

 Does anyone know how to access ServletConfig and ServletContext from within
 any class derived from the org.apache.struts.action.Action class?

There is a field called servlet, so you can use servlet.getServletContext();

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/api/org/apache/struts/action/Action.html#servlet

Hth,

Tib

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RE: missing some step(s) in i18n; setLocale() works, IE's settings dont

2003-01-21 Thread Andrew Hill
Probably not the problem here , but I encountered some issues with IE5's
sending the accept-language header, where if one has modified ones 'Regional
Settings' from the control panel, IE will sometimes use the default language
selected there, and sometimes use the setting in IE languages.
This seems to change between consecutive requests even and I havent quite
pinned down under which circumstances it submits the correct setting and
when it uses the regional settings one.
JavaScript location.replace always seem to submit the regional settings
language though, instead of the language set in IE.
This probably isnt the problem in your case but might be worth checking just
in case.

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From: Jagdish Arora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:29
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: missing some step(s) in i18n; setLocale() works, IE's settings
dont



Hi all,

Thanks for you help.

I tried to convert my struts application to support multiple languages.
However, it seems to me that application is not picking up the language
setting set in IE (google does show up in Spanish, though).   However, If I
use setLocale in my LogonAction, the application does display the Spanish
text (specified in ApplicationResources_es.properties) correctly.

These are the steps that I did:
1) Put ApplicationResources.properties and
ApplicationResources_es.properties under WEB-INF/resources
2) Put a content type UTF-8 declaration on top of all JSPs
3) Put (Craig/Apache)'s SetCharaceterEncodingFilter.java under filters in
src.
4) Put the mapping of filter for ActionServlet in web.xml
5) Change the language of IE to spanish (the Google page does show up in
Spanish).
6) Also tried to set the Locale in session in LogonAction.execute(), in
which case, it picks up the correct file


I am detailing the directory structure below, in case someone thinks it
could be the issue.

.ear
|.war
||__servlet classes (some modules use HttpServlets)
||__filters
|  |___SetCharaceterEncodingFilter
|.jar
 |__com.fdt.lcp.* (actions/forms/models/daos/ejbs/utils)


The struts.jar is not a part of the ear file.  It is under appserver/lib
directory.  The Struts application runs fine, but internationalization is
not working.

thanks a bunch,

Amrinder

PS: This the change that I made to my web.xml to put filter mapping for
action:

!-- Filter to set character encoding on each request --
filter
filter-nameSet Character Encoding/filter-name
filter-classfilters.SetCharacterEncodingFilter/filter-class
init-param
param-nameencoding/param-name
param-valueUTF-8/param-value
/init-param
/filter

!-- Define filter mappings for the defined filters --
filter-mapping
filter-nameSet Character Encoding/filter-name
servlet-nameaction/servlet-name
/filter-mapping




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struts and roles, where to find documentation?

2003-01-21 Thread Michael Olszynski
Hello,

I want to extend my existing web-application with roles. I´ve read that you
can define roles in the action-mappings part of the struts-config.xml file.
But where can you create edit the users and available roles, does anyone
have a documentation of this. are the users of tomcat used? how can i use
them if the are not used? in which database are these useres und roles.
I´m new to roles and useres management, and I absolutely don´t know anything
about roles and struts, so any link to a documentation and tutorial is very
welcome.

Take care Michael



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Re: struts and roles, where to find documentation?

2003-01-21 Thread Gemes Tibor
2003. január 21. 12:09 dátummal Michael Olszynski ezt írtad:
 anything about roles and struts, so any link to a documentation and
 tutorial is very welcome.

I learnt this from servlet spec 2.3 chapter 12 and from tomcat docs

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/realm-howto.html

Tib

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[OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread Daniel H. F. e Silva
Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve productivity. So, what is more 
productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience writing Eclipse plugins? How 
difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.
 


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Where to put a reference to a resource.

2003-01-21 Thread Simon Kelly
Hi all,

Where would I have to configure a reference to a resource file so that when
I called

URLConnection connection =
config.getServletContext().getResource(xmlResourceName).openConnection();

struts would know where to get xmlResourceName from?

Cheers

Simon

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Prozessdatenverarbeitung
und Elektronik,
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struts 1.1b3 - commons jars, which version ?

2003-01-21 Thread Arik Levin ( Tikal )
 
At struts 1.1b3 lib there are commons jars files, how should I
know the version of each one of them?




Re: Getting ServletConfig and ServletContext.

2003-01-21 Thread Simon Kelly
Thanks Tib And Jagdish.

- Original Message -
From: Gemes Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Getting ServletConfig and ServletContext.


2003. január 21. 10:58 dátummal Simon Kelly ezt írtad:
 Hi,

 Does anyone know how to access ServletConfig and ServletContext from
within
 any class derived from the org.apache.struts.action.Action class?

There is a field called servlet, so you can use servlet.getServletContext();

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/api/org/apache/struts/action/Action.html#se
rvlet

Hth,

Tib

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/ /OREF:CPTDE96D JBoss 3.0.4 + Tomcat 4.1.12 + Struts 1.1-b3: DigesterParse Error when deploying web module

2003-01-21 Thread ZTofie

Hi and thanks in advance for any and all of your time...

The above error appears in the JBoss console window when my ant
script deploys the web module to JBOSS_HOME\server\default\deploy.

I've googled on ERROR [Digester] Parse Error at line 13 column -1:
Element taglib requires additional elements and drew 1 hit
(http://www.cowsultants.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=38) with (for the
most part) almost exactly the exception that I get. I followed the
advice given (namely to remove the taglibs section from web.xml) but
no success.

Another google on: digester parse error struts yielded many hits
notably
(http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg15448.html)

and some others and they all dealt with similar exceptions but not
the one that I keep getting.

Next, I deployed struts-documentation.war and looked at the
requirements for using struts in my app and double-checked these
against my setup and they were all correct in terms of the
struts*.tld files that need to in WEB-INF, the taglibs in web.xml,
and the descriptors in my .jsp.

However, I must note that in the instructions that I worked from for
this app there's a file named struts.tld that need to be included in
WEB-INF but which I could not find in struts\lib???

Needless to say, this is the first time that I'm using struts.

Have I missed something?

Many thanks in advance

Zain

Below is the output from the console:

12:47:24,399 INFO  [Engine] WebappLoader[/HelloClient]: Deploy JAR
/WEB-INF/lib/
struts.jar to D:
\Java\jboss\tomcat\work\MainEngine\localhost\HelloClient\WEB-INF
\lib\struts.jar
12:47:25,160 ERROR [Digester] Parse Error at line 13 column -1:
Element taglib
 requires additional elements.
org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Element taglib requires additional
elements.
at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.error(Parser2.java:3160)
at
org.apache.crimson.parser.ValidatingParser$ChildrenValidator.done(Val
idatingParser.java:361)
at
org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.maybeElement(Parser2.java:1519)
at
org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.parseInternal(Parser2.java:500)
at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.parse(Parser2.java:305)
at
org.apache.crimson.parser.XMLReaderImpl.parse(XMLReaderImpl.java:442)

at
org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.parse(Digester.java:1514)
at
org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig.tldScanStream(ContextConfig
.java:977)
at
org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig.tldScanTld(ContextConfig.ja
va:1006)
at
org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig.tldScan(ContextConfig.java:
870)
at
org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig.start(ContextConfig.java:64
7)
at
org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig.lifecycleEvent(ContextConfi
g.java:243)
at
org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleSupport.fireLifecycleEvent(Lifecycl
eSupport.java:166)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:3
493)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase
.java:821)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:80
7)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:579)

at
org.jboss.web.catalina.EmbeddedCatalinaService41.createWebContext(Emb
eddedCatalinaService41.java:432)
at
org.jboss.web.catalina.EmbeddedCatalinaService41.performDeploy(Embedd
edCatalinaService41.java:306)
at
org.jboss.web.AbstractWebContainer.start(AbstractWebContainer.java:30
0)
at
org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.start(MainDeployer.java:807)
at
org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.deploy(MainDeployer.java:621)
at
org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.deploy(MainDeployer.java:585)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor11.invoke(Unknown
Source)
at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAcces
sorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
at
org.jboss.mx.capability.ReflectedMBeanDispatcher.invoke(ReflectedMBea
nDispatcher.java:284)
at
org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:517)
at org.jboss.util.jmx.MBeanProxy.invoke(MBeanProxy.java:174)
at $Proxy4.deploy(Unknown Source)
at
org.jboss.deployment.scanner.URLDeploymentScanner.deploy(URLDeploymen
tScanner.java:435)
at
org.jboss.deployment.scanner.URLDeploymentScanner.scan(URLDeploymentS
canner.java:561)
at
org.jboss.deployment.scanner.AbstractDeploymentScanner$ScannerThread.
doScan(AbstractDeploymentScanner.java:212)
at
org.jboss.deployment.scanner.AbstractDeploymentScanner$ScannerThread.
loop(AbstractDeploymentScanner.java:225)
at
org.jboss.deployment.scanner.AbstractDeploymentScanner$ScannerThread.
run(AbstractDeploymentScanner.java:202)





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RE: flow control decision making

2003-01-21 Thread Nelson, Laird
Funny you should mention that.  I've been wondering the same thing.  Search
the archives for a long discussion that Ted and I had on the issue.  The
short answer is no, there's not.  The long answer is if I ever get any free
time yes, there will be.

Laird

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 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:43 PM
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 Subject: flow control decision making
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I've been off the list for a while... busy coding up about 60 
 action classes and all the JNDI behind them.
 
 One thing I found about using the struts_config file is that 
 it is a lot easier to refactor, fix flawed business rules 
 dealing with page flow, etc in the struts config xml than it 
 is to yank the java code around in the action classes. For 
 instance, if I found that action X really needed to route to 
 targets a, b, c and d instead of Action Y, I have to move the 
 logic out of Action Y and put in into Action X whereas in the 
 struts config all I need to do is move the forward lines 
 between the two action elements.
 
 I was thinking of developing a way to make the routing logic 
 separate from the business logic that does all the data 
 accessing and updating. But all I can think of is to create 
 another action class to forward to for handling this.
 
 Is there a way to specify in the struts_config a class that 
 an action element can use just for determining the 
 action_forward and to ignore the value returned by the action class.
 
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Justifying Tag Libraries - Slightly long

2003-01-21 Thread Vikram Goyal
Hi all,

After failing to convince my boss otherwise about his fear of slowing down the 
performance of an internationalizated web application by the use of Struts tags, I 
decided to set up a stress test environment to prove that tags do not have that high a 
performance issue. However, much to my dismay and surprise, I found that my boss was 
correct! Tags, do indeed, affect performance, and we are not talking about nanoseconds 
of difference. Here is my test environement and how I went about doing so:

Single Client Machine: Windows XP Pro - with 512 MB RAM, Pentium 4 (1.7Mhz),  IE 5.5.
Server: Windows XP Pro running Weblogic 7.1 with 512 MB RAM, Pentium 4 (1.7 Mhz)

Stress Test Tool: Microsoft Web Application Stress Tool

Struts Version: Struts 1.1b2.

Testing method:
1. Ran 1000 threads on a simple JSP page, which used bean tags to render the content 
of the page. This is a simple page, which contains a lot of text, all of which is read 
from ApplicationResources.  This page was ideal for the test as it had the most tags 
(40+).
2. Ran 1000 threads on the same page. However, this page, is static, meaning, that the 
page accessed was pre generated using an internationlation mechanism that simply 
generates static html pages for different languages and puts them in respective i18ned 
directories. So a user who understands spanish would go to the document root for 
spanish and so on.

Well, the results:
Without boring you with all the figures, let me just put get into the result analysis. 
Overall, I found that for the first case, the difference between the time taken to get 
the first byte(ttfb) of the page and time taken to get the last byte(ttlb) of the 
page, was vast. In the second case, this difference was miniscual. This meant, that in 
the first case, the pages were received faster, but took longer to finish downloading. 
In the second case, the pages took slightly longer to come through, but finished 
downloading much much faster than the first case (150 times faster than first case).

I ran the tests three times for 25, 100 and 1000 clients and all the tests results 
gave the same analysis.

With these figures in hand, I had no answer to my boss's snide remarks about uh, hmm 
... well never mind, except to say that I had no answer.  What I am hoping from the 
list is if someone can help me understand why this would happen, would this be as 
expected and well, how do you still justify the usage of tags.

Best Regards,
Vikram Goyal


Re: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread alexj
Hi,

I need some advice how can I made a war file after
creating a Struts app using Easy Struts.

Chears.

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G++ e* h++ r% y*
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From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: AW: easy struts


 Yes it's mesorry

 I think somebody send me a patch about this bug, I going to release a new
version this WE.
 This bug appear when you add support to a tomcat (Sysdeo) projet

 -emmanuel



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  who isn't reachable
 
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  so i'm sure you can answer my last question...
 
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  Hi,
 
  I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my struts apps ;)
  I think some people use it too.
 
  Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few
bugs...to
  be continued...
 
  Thx,
  -emmanuel
 
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Re: / /OREF:CPTDE96D JBoss 3.0.4 + Tomcat 4.1.12 + Struts 1.1-b3: Digester Parse Error when deploying web module

2003-01-21 Thread Gemes Tibor
Afaik there are some problems with jboss + tomcat classloader since  jboss has 
an old version of a few commons package on classpath and while deploying the 
application it finds the classes there so these jars are used thou struts 
requires newer version of them.

It is just an idea.

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Re: / /OREF:CPTDE96D JBoss 3.0.4 + Tomcat 4.1.12 + Struts 1.1-b3: Digester Parse Error when deploying web module

2003-01-21 Thread alexj
Hi,

I got some trouble when I was using your version of Jboss + tomcat,
I have change my jdk to a prior version 1.3.1 and choose to work
with JBoss + Jetty.  And now everything working fine.

Hope this help.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: / /OREF:CPTDE96D JBoss 3.0.4 + Tomcat 4.1.12 + Struts 1.1-b3:
Digester Parse Error when deploying web module


Afaik there are some problems with jboss + tomcat classloader since  jboss
has
an old version of a few commons package on classpath and while deploying the
application it finds the classes there so these jars are used thou struts
requires newer version of them.

It is just an idea.

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Problems upgrading from B1 to B3, loosing session scoped objects..

2003-01-21 Thread Arnesen, Geir
It seems to me that I loose some session scoped objects. This happened
when upgrading my app, from B1 to B3. I have tried to compare the
web.xml/struts-config.xml, -libs shipped with the struts-exercise
shipped with the B3, - but are not able to figure out what is causing
this. Any clues???

Geir

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Re: Justifying Tag Libraries - Slightly long

2003-01-21 Thread Attila Szegedi
Profiling usually shows that pretty much of the overhead of a dynamically
generated page is usually associated with char-to-byte conversion (which
naturally doesn't occur when serving a static page). This is not related to
taglibs actually, but hits any technology that takes characters on input and
produces bytes on output (a HTTP response is ultimately a sequence of
bytes) - JSP, template engines, whatnot.

If you can pre-generate pages (i.e. they don't really have dynamic content,
but are just localized versions), do so. Either as part of the build
process, or on server startup. A nice technique for generating a page only
once on demand is to insert a caching filter into the webapp - that way, a
page will get rendered dynamically only once, and thereafter served from
cache until the time you specify in its Expires HTTP header passes (if the
pages rarely change, you can set it to expire, say, in next 24 hours). If
only parts of the page are cacheable, you can use OpenSymphony's OSCache to
cache only portions of the page.

Another thing that can cause big slowdowns in JSP pages utilizing many tags
is the (IMHO) horribly flawed design of BodyTag-s. The JSP spec mandates
that a body of a tag - written into an internal BodyContent writer - be
buffered, then the buffered content retrieved (say, in doAfterBody) and
processed. With many nested tags, you get lots of buffering and
(more-or-less) copying to the outer writer in a waterfall-alike manner. A
much better design would have been (again, IMHO) to simply chain writers - a
body tag gets a reference to the currently effective Writer, wraps it into
another Writer that implements the transforming logic, then returns the new
writer and the JSP runtime makes that the current writer. That way, nested
body tags would create layers of writers - a write() on the writer of the
innermost tag wold propagate to the outermost, transforming content along
the way. Buffering would no longer be mandatory (altough still possible if
the transformation algorithm calls for it - a Writer implementation could
just buffer as much input as required to produce a chunk of output).

In summary, consider server-side content caching.

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- Original Message -
From: Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2003. január 21. 5:09
Subject: Justifying Tag Libraries - Slightly long


Hi all,

After failing to convince my boss otherwise about his fear of slowing down
the performance of an internationalizated web application by the use of
Struts tags, I decided to set up a stress test environment to prove that
tags do not have that high a performance issue. However, much to my dismay
and surprise, I found that my boss was correct! Tags, do indeed, affect
performance, and we are not talking about nanoseconds of difference. Here is
my test environement and how I went about doing so:

Single Client Machine: Windows XP Pro - with 512 MB RAM, Pentium 4 (1.7Mhz),
IE 5.5.
Server: Windows XP Pro running Weblogic 7.1 with 512 MB RAM, Pentium 4 (1.7
Mhz)

Stress Test Tool: Microsoft Web Application Stress Tool

Struts Version: Struts 1.1b2.

Testing method:
1. Ran 1000 threads on a simple JSP page, which used bean tags to render the
content of the page. This is a simple page, which contains a lot of text,
all of which is read from ApplicationResources.  This page was ideal for the
test as it had the most tags (40+).
2. Ran 1000 threads on the same page. However, this page, is static,
meaning, that the page accessed was pre generated using an internationlation
mechanism that simply generates static html pages for different languages
and puts them in respective i18ned directories. So a user who understands
spanish would go to the document root for spanish and so on.

Well, the results:
Without boring you with all the figures, let me just put get into the result
analysis.
Overall, I found that for the first case, the difference between the time
taken to get the first byte(ttfb) of the page and time taken to get the last
byte(ttlb) of the page, was vast. In the second case, this difference was
miniscual. This meant, that in the first case, the pages were received
faster, but took longer to finish downloading. In the second case, the pages
took slightly longer to come through, but finished downloading much much
faster than the first case (150 times faster than first case).

I ran the tests three times for 25, 100 and 1000 clients and all the tests
results gave the same analysis.

With these figures in hand, I had no answer to my boss's snide remarks about
uh, hmm ... well never mind, except to say that I had no answer.  What I am
hoping from the list is if someone can help me understand why this would
happen, would this be as expected and well, how do you still justify the
usage of tags.

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2003-01-21 Thread ZTofie

K. alexj, I'll roll back to 1.3.1 and see what happens - keep ya
posted.Thanks...

As for the possible disparity between the commons package, Tib, I'll
look into it and post my findings. Thanks...

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Hi,

I got some trouble when I was using your version of Jboss + tomcat,
I have change my jdk to a prior version 1.3.1 and choose to work
with JBoss + Jetty.  And now everything working fine.

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Afaik there are some problems with jboss + tomcat classloader since
jboss
has
an old version of a few commons package on classpath and while
deploying the
application it finds the classes there so these jars are used thou
struts
requires newer version of them.

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RE: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread James Mitchell
I can't speak for everyone, but you should be using Ant to build your
projects no matter which IDE you choose.  Every single (Java) IDE I've
ever used (NetBeans, Jbuilder, Together, Eclipse, Idea) has either
built-in support for Ant or at least a plug-in.

I recently added tutorials that demonstrate building and deploying a
sample Struts app with:
1. NetBeans - http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/eclipse.html
2. Eclipse  - http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/netbeans.html

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  I think somebody send me a patch about this bug, I going to 
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   Hi,
  
   I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my 
 struts apps ;)
   I think some people use it too.
  
   Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few
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RE: / /OREF:CPTDE96D JBoss 3.0.4 + Tomcat 4.1.12 + Struts 1.1-b3: Digester Parse Error when deploying web module

2003-01-21 Thread James Mitchell
Just for kicks, download jboss-3.0.3/tomcat-4.0.5 and deploy that same
app.  It is one of the few versions that I can deploy any of my struts
apps to without having to do work-arounds for classloader issues.


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 Afaik there are some problems with jboss + tomcat classloader 
 since  jboss has 
 an old version of a few commons package on classpath and 
 while deploying the 
 application it finds the classes there so these jars are used 
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 requires newer version of them.
 
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K,  - thanks James. The only thing is that doing this will leave the
issue unresolved for me.

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2003-01-21 Thread James Mitchell
I know, but it may help clarify that it isn't your fault.


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Might have a point - I could've made a mistake flippin somewhere.
K, I'll try it ...



   

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Should I keep to struts 1.1b3?



   

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2003-01-21 Thread James Mitchell
Whatever you pick, make sure you use the correct version of the required
jars (commons, oro, jdbc, etc).  When I'm in a hurry, I just copy them
from the binary download dist/lib directory and put them in my
/WEB-INF/lib.  I don't want to deal with reading the manifest, etc.
Makes for quick work! (Upgrading is a different story, but I digress)



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2003-01-21 Thread ZTofie

I think that you may have unwittingly provided the solution to the
problem.

My instruction was to copy only the struts.jar to WEB-INF. When I
looked at the unpacked war structure for the struts-documentation.war
file in Tomcat's work dir, there were a whole bunch of commons and
other jars. I'll copy ALL of these and redeploy.

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required
jars (commons, oro, jdbc, etc).  When I'm in a hurry, I just copy
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from the binary download dist/lib directory and put them in my
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Makes for quick work! (Upgrading is a different story, but I digress)



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Re: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread V. Cekvenich
Thanks for writing it up.

I would say an alternative is to set up your project in 
webapps\myProject, and run the Container outside of IDE (as you would in 
production).
This makes it easy to configure Container ( Tomcat or Resin, or Orion, 
etc.) to save the session while you change the class live

A good practice to be able to change the class and not have to restart 
Container, and not have to reacquire the session; while in dev. mode.
Ex: If you change your Action Java code, and you are logged in to you 
webapp, you do not want to navigate back to the same point (save 
session) or restart container.
Also, sometimes one uses more than one IDE at a time, ex: Eclipse and 
when it gets rought, Vi.

.V

James Mitchell wrote:
I can't speak for everyone, but you should be using Ant to build your
projects no matter which IDE you choose.  Every single (Java) IDE I've
ever used (NetBeans, Jbuilder, Together, Eclipse, Idea) has either
built-in support for Ant or at least a plug-in.

I recently added tutorials that demonstrate building and deploying a
sample Struts app with:
1. NetBeans - http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/eclipse.html
2. Eclipse  - http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/netbeans.html

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Hi,

I need some advice how can I made a war file after
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Chears.

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Yes it's mesorry

I think somebody send me a patch about this bug, I going to 

release a new
version this WE.


This bug appear when you add support to a tomcat (Sysdeo) projet

-emmanuel



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Hi,

I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my 


struts apps ;)


I think some people use it too.

Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few



bugs...to


be continued...

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2003-01-21 Thread ZTofie

Nope, it didn't help - I copied all the files that I found in
WEB-INF\lib of unpacked war of struts-documentation and ran my build
scripts again without shutting down.

When the downloads finish, I'll implement your advice...

Thanks
 Zain


   

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RE: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread James Mitchell
 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of V. Cekvenich
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: AW: easy struts
 
 
 Thanks for writing it up.
 
 I would say an alternative is to set up your project in 
 webapps\myProject, and run the Container outside of IDE (as 
 you would in production).

That's correct.  I never run my apps with any IDE's plugged-in
container.  If needed, I'll remotely attach to the VM and debug from
there.

 This makes it easy to configure Container ( Tomcat or Resin, 
 or Orion, 
 etc.) to save the session while you change the class live
 
 A good practice to be able to change the class and not have to restart

 Container, and not have to reacquire the session; while in dev. mode.
 Ex: If you change your Action Java code, and you are logged in to you 
 webapp, you do not want to navigate back to the same point (save 
 session) or restart container.

Agreed.  You have many options available with a good Ant build script.  
Anything you have to do 'by hand' can be (and usually already is)
provided with ant tasks.

In recent projects, I've used Ant to do tasks (ftp, database calls, etc)
that are totally unrelated to software development.  The possibilities
are endless!!!

 Also, sometimes one uses more than one IDE at a time, ex: Eclipse and 
 when it gets rought, Vi.
 
 .V

Since I'm currently on Windoze, I use Textpad when not using Eclipse.


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Re: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Hi,

It's not possible with Easy Struts but you can use Tomcat Sysdeo plugin for building a 
war.

-emmanuel

 --- alexj [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Hi,
 
 I need some advice how can I made a war file after
 creating a Struts app using Easy Struts.
 
 Chears.
 
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 From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:19 AM
 Subject: Re: AW: easy struts
 
 
  Yes it's mesorry
 
  I think somebody send me a patch about this bug, I going to release a new
 version this WE.
  This bug appear when you add support to a tomcat (Sysdeo) projet
 
  -emmanuel
 
 
 
   --- Softwareentwicklung Hauschel [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
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  guy,
   who isn't reachable
  
   Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dom.future-invent.de.
   I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
   addresses.
   This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
  
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   so i'm sure you can answer my last question...
  
   Ich wünsche Ihnen noch einen schönen Tag,
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   An: Struts Users Mailing List
   Betreff: Re: easy struts
  
  
   Hi,
  
   I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my struts apps ;)
   I think some people use it too.
  
   Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few
 bugs...to
   be continued...
  
   Thx,
   -emmanuel
  
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does anybody develop with easy struts and eclipse ?
   
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Re: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread V. Cekvenich
I finally got you!
:-)
You wrote:
I'm currently on Windoze, I use Textpad when not using Eclipse.

VIM.org is GUI VI that runs on Windoze! And it runs in X.
He, he, he.

(as does Eclipse-Run in X. and of course everyone knows that RH 8 is 
avilable for free to download, they are not allowed to charge, RH can 
only charge for the CD).

Oh yeah, ant is great, but just to comiple and run in dev., one does not 
have to set it up.
.V

James Mitchell wrote:
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of V. Cekvenich
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AW: easy struts


Thanks for writing it up.

I would say an alternative is to set up your project in 
webapps\myProject, and run the Container outside of IDE (as 
you would in production).


That's correct.  I never run my apps with any IDE's plugged-in
container.  If needed, I'll remotely attach to the VM and debug from
there.



This makes it easy to configure Container ( Tomcat or Resin, 
or Orion, 
etc.) to save the session while you change the class live

A good practice to be able to change the class and not have to restart



Container, and not have to reacquire the session; while in dev. mode.
Ex: If you change your Action Java code, and you are logged in to you 
webapp, you do not want to navigate back to the same point (save 
session) or restart container.


Agreed.  You have many options available with a good Ant build script.  
Anything you have to do 'by hand' can be (and usually already is)
provided with ant tasks.

In recent projects, I've used Ant to do tasks (ftp, database calls, etc)
that are totally unrelated to software development.  The possibilities
are endless!!!


Also, sometimes one uses more than one IDE at a time, ex: Eclipse and 
when it gets rought, Vi.

.V


Since I'm currently on Windoze, I use Textpad when not using Eclipse.


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Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
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RE: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread ROSSEL Olivier
 Hi,
 
 It's not possible with Easy Struts but you can use Tomcat 
 Sysdeo plugin for building a war.

I use Lomboz for that.
It is quite good a tcreating war, but it sucks for launching/stopping 
Tomcat.
I presume using Ant is really a neat idea.

Can anyone tell me if Ant is able to start/stop Tomcat?

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Re: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread alexj
Yep that's very usefull .
Thanks James.

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RE: reset a request parameter to null

2003-01-21 Thread Sri Sankaran
On the question of chaining actions you can search for Action Chaining and should 
find several threads in the archives.

Sri

-Original Message-
From: Denis Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: reset a request parameter to null


I would suggest overriding OneForm's reset() method and set the 
property
'operation' to null in it.
Do you mean TwoForm's reset()?  If yes, your suggestion is a doable approach.  But my 
point is to have a decent way to set the parameter to null in OneAction /OneForm to 
avoid pollution to others instead of tranferring the burden to TwoForm/TwoAction, 
ThreeForm/ThreeAction 

Let me say in passing that it isn't a good idea to chain actions.  
There
are other -- more robust -- means to achieve the same ends.  This is a discussion in 
itself that has been given quite a bit of attention on this list in the past and so I 
won't go into it at length. Would you please give me a hint of the subject for the 
past discussion?  I'd like to look into it. Thanks. Denis

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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:30 PM
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Subject: RE: reset a request parameter to null


thanks for your reply.  just as this email's subject, I am trying to set a request 
*parameter* to null. Denis

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:28 PM
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Subject: RE: reset a request parameter to null


It isn't clear what you are trying to achieve;  however one thing that jumps out is 
your use of request *attributes* as opposed to request *parameters*. When you append a 
URI thusly:

  foo?operation=barbaz=gak

you are providing *parameters* and not attributes.

Sri

-Original Message-
From: Denis Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:19 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: reset a request parameter to null


Hello, all,
What is the easiest way to set the request paramter to null?
I have OneForm and TwoForm, both of which have a field of operation. After OneAction 
is finished, the request will be forwarded to TwoAction. The wierd thing is that I 
cannot reset the operation parameter. I tried in the
OneAction:
request.setAttribute( operation, null );
OneForm.setOperation( null );
request.removeAttribute( operation );

return new ActionForward( mapping.findForward( success ).getPath()
+ ?operation=versionId= + versionId );

All above approaches do not work.  The last one comes really close to set 
operation=.  Does anybody have a decent way to set the parameter to null? Thanks. 
Denis



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Re: Getting ServletConfig and ServletContext.

2003-01-21 Thread Mark Lowe


ServletContext context = servlet.getServletContext();

Martedì, 21 gen 2003, alle 10:58 Europe/Rome, Simon Kelly ha scritto:





Hi,

Does anyone know how to access ServletConfig and ServletContext from 
within
any class derived from the org.apache.struts.action.Action class?

Cheers

Simon

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RE: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
 Can anyone tell me if Ant is able to start/stop Tomcat?

I think you can start/stop tomcat with an Ant task (if it exist of course (or make 
it;) ).

Paresse, quand tu nous tiens ;)

-emmanuel




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  It's not possible with Easy Struts but you can use Tomcat 
  Sysdeo plugin for building a war.
 
 I use Lomboz for that.
 It is quite good a tcreating war, but it sucks for launching/stopping 
 Tomcat.
 I presume using Ant is really a neat idea.
 
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RE: ClassCastException problem

2003-01-21 Thread Sri Sankaran
See intermixed

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Cavagnolo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ClassCastException problem
 
 
 I am using struts 1.0.2 and tomcat 4.1.12.  I have an Action 
 that contains the following code:
 
 import org.alf.msq.data.Problem;
 
 ...
 
 public ActionForward perform(...)
 {
 ...
ArrayList problemArray = new ArrayList();
problemArray.add(new Problem(1E));
problemArray.add(new Problem(1I));
problemArray.add(new Problem(1A));
request.setAttribute(problemArray, problemArray);
 ...
 
return (mapping.findForward(probSelect));
 }
 
 
 In probSelect.jsp, The following works:
 
 logic:iterate name=problemArray id=currentProb scope=request
bean:write name=currentProb property=problemName/ 
 /logic:iterate
 
 However, if I try to add type=org.alf.msq.data.Problem I 
 get a ClassCastException.
 

If it's working, why are trying to specify the type?  Where are you trying to set the 
type?  On the logic:iterate?  

 I have tried casting an element of problemArray back to 
 org.alf.msq.data.Problem in the jsp using every way I can 
 think of and I always get the ClassCastException.  Casting 
 works correctly with other objects (like String), but none of 
 my Objects.  Casting of these objects works fine in all other 
 java code too.  I added the following to my Action class and 
 it worked fine:
 
 ArrayList testArray = (ArrayList)request.getAttribute(problems);
 Problem prob = (Problem)testArray.get(0);
 
 I must be missing something huge here.  Any help is greatly 
 appreciated.

Is your struts.jar in your application's WEB-INF/lib and *not* in any of the other 
locations where it might get picked by the other Tomcat classloaders?  I admit, 
however, that even if this *were* the case you are more likely to get a 
ClassNotFoundException.

Sorry I don't have any clear cut answers.

 
 Sincerely,
 
 Jeremy

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/ /OREF:CPTF631B Re: JBoss 3.0.4 + Tomcat 4.1.12 + Struts 1.1-b3: DigesterParse Error when deploying web module

2003-01-21 Thread ZTofie

Aaarghhh! The problem persists - the only difference is that in the
console, only the exception is printed - not the full stack trace.

Anyway, I'll try an earlier version of struts and see what happens
...



   

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Whatever you pick, make sure you use the correct version of the
required
jars (commons, oro, jdbc, etc).  When I'm in a hurry, I just copy
them
from the binary download dist/lib directory and put them in my
/WEB-INF/lib.  I don't want to deal with reading the manifest, etc.
Makes for quick work! (Upgrading is a different story, but I digress)



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RE: html:rewrite gets the error message Body is supposed to be empty for html:rewrite

2003-01-21 Thread pqin
Replace  with '

a class=menuItem href='html:rewrite page=/main.do/'Main/a

Regards,
 
 
PQ
 
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This Guy Thinks He Knows What He Is Doing

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Subject: Re: html:rewrite gets the error message Body is supposed to be
empty for html:rewrite

try
  a class=menuItem href=html:rewrite page=/main.do/Main/a

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From: Jason Yam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:09 AM
Subject: html:rewrite gets the error message Body is supposed to be empty
for html:rewrite


 Hi everyone,

 I get this error during executing html:rewrite.  Anyone know how to
 solve this problem?

 Error message:
  Body is supposed to be empty for html:rewrite

 Source code:
 a class=menuItem href=html:rewrite
 page=/main.do/html:rewriteMain/a

 Thank you

 Jason


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[OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Chappell, Simon P
Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will be obvious to 
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is good. We are 
having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th degree and they will all be locked 
down so that you can't change anything. You can't even change your windows 
wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, you'd better like it because you can't install 
anything else. All in the sacred name of productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of my tinkering on. I like 
to think that my tinkering is helpful to the company, but you wouldn't think so from 
these new policies. This past year, I have introduced to the company's IS environment 
four new tools that I evaluated by tinkering with in those downtimes between projects. 
Specifically, these tools are Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and 
Cygwin. The funny thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are going 
to be part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate 
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, 
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve 
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience 
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.
 


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RE: DynaActionForm question

2003-01-21 Thread pqin
Is it possible to instantiate an instance of DynaActionForm before I
populate the page?

Regards,
 
 
PQ
 
This Guy Thinks He Knows Everything
This Guy Thinks He Knows What He Is Doing

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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: January 20, 2003 7:58 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: DynaActionForm question



On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Giri Alwar wrote:


 I have a question for the folks in general. What is the main reason for
 using the DynaActionForm class (as opposed to writing your own
ActionForm)?

That's it in a nutshell :-).  Having to write fewer classes is goodness.

 While you don't have to write your own class with DynaActionForm, aren't
you
 restricting yourself to using Struts taglibs (especially the bean
taglibs?).

You're certainly dependent on commons-beanutils.

 What if you want to use JSTL now or sometime in the future?

If you look closely at the public API for DynaActionForm, you'll see the
getMap() method.  This returns the name/value map for the properties of
the DynaBean, and makes it pretty easy to use JSTL with DynaActionForm
beans.  For example, the following are essentially equivalent:

  bean:write name=customer property=name/

  c:out value=${customer.map.name}/

if customer points at a DynaActionForm bean.

 With the IDE's
 that we all use today, creating an ActionForm class with getter/setter
 methods is a breeze. Hence, what do you truly gain by using
DynaActionForm?

Not everyone has (or likes) an IDE.

 Giri


Craig


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Find message resources file from form bean (validate) - methoddepricated!

2003-01-21 Thread Linnéa Ahlbeck
Hi!

I have a problem finding a new way to find my resources file from the form
bean.
The code I have been used so far in my validate method is the following:


public ActionErrors validate(ActionMapping mapping, HttpServletRequest
request) {
  ActionErrors errors = new ActionErrors();
  UCUser user = (UCUser)
request.getSession().getAttribute(Constants.MY_UCUSER);
  TelephoneNumberFormat telephoneNumberFormat =
TelephoneNumberFormat.getInstance   (user.getPhoneLocale());
  FuzionConfig fuzionConfig = FuzionConfig.getInstance();
  MessageResources messages = getServlet().getResources();

...

}

Now, the 'getResources' method  in class ActionServlet class has been
depricated, the following note is provided in the java

getResources
public MessageResources getResources()Deprecated. Actions should call
Action.getResources(HttpServletRequest) instead of this method, in order to
retrieve the resources for the current module.


Now - my problem! The form bean is not a subclass to the Action class. How
is the best way to reach my message resources file?? Thanks in advance!

/Linnéa






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problem with beans taglib.

2003-01-21 Thread Joel Wickard
Hello,

I have created a timeclock sub-app declaration in web.xml like so:

servlet
servlet-nameaction/servlet-name
servlet-classorg.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet/servlet-class
init-param
  param-nameconfig/param-name
  param-value/WEB-INF/struts-config.xml/param-value
/init-param
init-param
  param-nameconfig/timeclock/param-name
  param-value/WEB-INF/timeclock-config.xml/param-value
/init-param


inside timeclock-config.xml I have only one tag declared:

struts-config
	message-resources key=timeclockproperties 
parameter=resources.timeclock/
/struts-config

now on a seperate jsp, I want to access these properties using the bean tag.

%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld prefix=bean %
bean:message bundle=timeclockproperties key=timeclock.title/

but I get this error:

org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Cannot find message resources under 
key timeclockproperties

I'm guessing I missed a step somewhere, any help would be great.

I'm running struts 1.1

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/ /OREF:CPT05BB6 Re: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] EclipseIDE)

2003-01-21 Thread ZTofie

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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Andrew Hill
So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Chappell, Simon P
I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable discount)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the 
company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will 
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th 
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change 
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, 
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of 
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the 
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I 
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I 
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and 
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are 
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Pani, Gourav
Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)  

When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
servers.  
Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
Linux.  

Not bad.

-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable
discount)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the 
company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will 
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th 
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change 
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, 
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of 
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the 
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I 
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I 
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and 
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are 
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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db connection pool question

2003-01-21 Thread david chan
Hi,
 I am using a connection pool from
org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory and the
driver is oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver. It works
great until if the server idle for a few days, then
the connection object seems broken with this error:
 begin error mesg ===
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Software caused
connection abort: socket wr
ite error   at
oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:168)
  at
oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:210)
at
oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:323)
  at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:417)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:432)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedState
ment.java:182)   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.privatePrepareStatement(OracleCon
nection.java:602)at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection
.java:538)at
org.apache.commons.dbcp.DelegatingConnection.prepareStatement(DelegatingConnection.java:197)
...
=  end of error mesg 

What happen and how can I prevent this?
Thanks.
David



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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Kevin . Bedell


Here is a pointer to an intensive management training program that may work
for them:

http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/the_characters/index.html#boss




   
   
   
   
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So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I have
introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I evaluated by
tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
Similar things going on where I am at.  It's to be expected when you work for the 
military. :)  (I work with highly insensitive materials, however at night I'm a secret 
agent.  The two aren't related.)

It's mostly a lot of talk though.  You will use that and you will not use anything 
else.  It never holds up because the bottom line is that the work needs to get done.  

It's such a pain to get commercial software (still waiting on IDEA), the free stuff is 
a no-brainer, go download it.  I'm using netbeans, ant, tomcat, struts, junit, etc, 
even though none of these products have been blessed, they are all kicking a lot of 
ass.

Standards are important, but not so much that you have to cram them down everyone's 
throats.  Standardized methodologies, i.e., these are our techniques for analysing and 
designing, and we use versioning control and we test our code, are much more valuable 
than forcing developers to use a particular toolset.  At one time their was talk of us 
being told we have to use JDeveloper.  What a nightmare that would have been.

However, I draw the line at what MP3 player people use.  In my office, it's Winamp, or 
no music, no debate.

L8r,

Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:31 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will 
 be obvious to experienced IS developers) also have the belief 
 that standardisation is good. We are having our J2EE 
 workstations defined to the n'th degree and they will all be 
 locked down so that you can't change anything. You can't even 
 change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, you'd 
 better like it because you can't install anything else. All 
 in the sacred name of productivity.
 
 Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
 
 I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any 
 of my tinkering on. I like to think that my tinkering is 
 helpful to the company, but you wouldn't think so from these 
 new policies. This past year, I have introduced to the 
 company's IS environment four new tools that I evaluated by 
 tinkering with in those downtimes between projects. 
 Specifically, these tools are Struts (hey, you know I like 
 Struts! :-), ant, junit and Cygwin. The funny thing, to me, 
 is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are going to be 
 part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
 
 Simon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
 Hi all,
  I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
  Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate 
 everybody to adopt my
 recomendations.
 My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, 
 order is order.
  I think his concern about this task is to improve 
 productivity. So, what is more productive?
  Following our discussion, does someone have experience 
 writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
 this kind of task?
 
 Best regards,
  Daniel.
  
 
 
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RE: db connection pool question

2003-01-21 Thread Pani, Gourav
please look at the thread with subject Problem with JDBC  Struts
Connection Pool (possible to recon nect?).  Matt Raible had a solution to
that by setting autoReconnect=true

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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:56 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: db connection pool question


Hi,
 I am using a connection pool from
org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory and the
driver is oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver. It works
great until if the server idle for a few days, then
the connection object seems broken with this error:
 begin error mesg ===
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Software caused
connection abort: socket wr
ite error   at
oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:168)
  at
oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:210)
at
oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:323)
  at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:417)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:432)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedState
ment.java:182)   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.privatePrepareStatement(OracleCon
nection.java:602)at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection
.java:538)at
org.apache.commons.dbcp.DelegatingConnection.prepareStatement(DelegatingConn
ection.java:197)
...
=  end of error mesg 

What happen and how can I prevent this?
Thanks.
David



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Re: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Nicolas De Loof
Waaa !

It took us 2 years to come to struts + log4j. I'm trying to promote tomcat
and eclipse as test/development platform... for 2004 ?

Perhaps Linux and PostgreSQL in 2020.

Nico.

 Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

 When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
 Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
 servers.
 Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
 Linux.

 Not bad.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


 I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very
reasonable
 discount)

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
 company supply
 them?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
 be obvious to
 experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
 good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
 degree and
 they will all be locked down so that you can't change
 anything. You can't
 even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
 you'd better like
 it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
 productivity.
 
 Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
 
 I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
 my tinkering
 on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
 company, but you
 wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
 have introduced
 to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
 evaluated by tinkering
 with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
 Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
 Cygwin. The funny
 thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
 going to be
 part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
 
 Simon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
 Hi all,
  I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
  Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
 everybody to adopt my
 recomendations.
 My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
 order is order.
  I think his concern about this task is to improve
 productivity. So, what is more productive?
  Following our discussion, does someone have experience
 writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
 this kind of task?
 
 Best regards,
  Daniel.
 
 
 
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Re: DynaActionForm question

2003-01-21 Thread Gemes Tibor
2003. janur 21. 15:35 dtummal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ezt rtad:
 Is it possible to instantiate an instance of DynaActionForm before I
 populate the page?

Yes, for an example in your prepopulating action. Create an action which 
collects the data and populates your form. And assign the same actionform to 
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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Pani, Gourav
Oh and I forgot to add Ant, Log4J, Cactus and Scarab.  Life is grand when
most people don't have a clue what the hell you are doing.

-Original Message-
From: Nicolas De Loof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Waaa !

It took us 2 years to come to struts + log4j. I'm trying to promote tomcat
and eclipse as test/development platform... for 2004 ?

Perhaps Linux and PostgreSQL in 2020.

Nico.

 Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

 When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
 Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
 servers.
 Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
 Linux.

 Not bad.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


 I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very
reasonable
 discount)

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
 company supply
 them?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
 be obvious to
 experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
 good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
 degree and
 they will all be locked down so that you can't change
 anything. You can't
 even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
 you'd better like
 it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
 productivity.
 
 Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
 
 I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
 my tinkering
 on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
 company, but you
 wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
 have introduced
 to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
 evaluated by tinkering
 with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
 Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
 Cygwin. The funny
 thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
 going to be
 part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
 
 Simon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
 Hi all,
  I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
  Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
 everybody to adopt my
 recomendations.
 My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
 order is order.
  I think his concern about this task is to improve
 productivity. So, what is more productive?
  Following our discussion, does someone have experience
 writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
 this kind of task?
 
 Best regards,
  Daniel.
 
 
 
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Easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread alexj
Re,

I got some strange error when I create a tomcat project and then
add easy struts support (with eclipse). If I didn't had to the tomcat
project the struts lib and common lib + servlet  I got classpath
error.
If in my .classpath config file is like this one :

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?

classpath

classpathentry kind=var path=JRE_LIB rootpath=JRE_SRCROOT
sourcepath=JRE_SRC/

classpathentry kind=var path=TOMCAT_HOME/common/lib/servlet.jar/

classpathentry kind=var
path=TOMCAT_HOME/common/lib/jasper-runtime.jar/

classpathentry kind=src path=WEB-INF/src/

classpathentry kind=src path=work/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/servlet.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/jdbc2_0-stdext.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/jakarta-oro.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-validator.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-services.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-resources.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-pool.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-logging.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-lang.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-fileupload.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-digester.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-dbcp.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-collections.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/commons-beanutils.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=/IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/struts.jar/

classpathentry kind=output path=WEB-INF/classes/

/classpath

I always got Missing required library /IBMSS/defaultroot/WEB-INF/lib/*.jar
And if the config file is this one :
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?

classpath

classpathentry kind=var path=JRE_LIB rootpath=JRE_SRCROOT
sourcepath=JRE_SRC/

classpathentry kind=var path=TOMCAT_HOME/common/lib/servlet.jar/

classpathentry kind=var
path=TOMCAT_HOME/common/lib/jasper-runtime.jar/

classpathentry kind=src path=WEB-INF/src/

classpathentry kind=src path=work/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-beanutils.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-collections.jar
/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-dbcp.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-digester.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-fileupload.jar/


classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-lang.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-logging.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-pool.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-resources.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-services.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/commons-validator.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/jakarta-oro.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/jdbc2_0-stdext.jar/

classpathentry kind=lib
path=C:/JBuilder8/extras/jakarta-struts-1.1-b2/lib/struts.jar/

classpathentry kind=output path=WEB-INF/classes/

/classpath

I didn't get missing library errors (I really don't wan't to work anymore
with JB8 :) )
Any idea ??

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Réf. : Re: AW: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Romeyer
Is the new version will works with eclipse 2.1 M4 ??

Jean-Pierre ROMEYER, Hardis
http://www.hardis.com 




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Yes it's mesorry

I think somebody send me a patch about this bug, I going to release a new 
version this WE.
This bug appear when you add support to a tomcat (Sysdeo) projet

-emmanuel



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 Hi,
 
 I develop Easy Struts ... and I use Easy Struts for my struts apps ;)
 I think some people use it too.
 
 Actually I haven't got time for update it ;( so there is some few 
bugs...to
 be continued...
 
 Thx,
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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Chappell, Simon P
I agree, that working in the dark corners churning out working code is the best way to 
silence management and that's what I try to do. I'm just dispairing about the fact 
that management think that their actions are necessary.

I'm a known corporate rebel anyway and I install whatever I want on my machine. 
Sometimes I get in trouble for it, especially Struts, but then after management has 
it's screaming fit, they come around to seeing that I was right. Other than being 
directed by my manager to send out apology emails now and then, it's almost fun.

BTW: Winamp sucks, try Music Match Jukebox if you use a Windows box, otherwise iTunes 
rocks! (I love my Mac! :-)

Simon 

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To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Oh and I forgot to add Ant, Log4J, Cactus and Scarab.  Life is 
grand when
most people don't have a clue what the hell you are doing.

-Original Message-
From: Nicolas De Loof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Waaa !

It took us 2 years to come to struts + log4j. I'm trying to 
promote tomcat
and eclipse as test/development platform... for 2004 ?

Perhaps Linux and PostgreSQL in 2020.

Nico.

 Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

 When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
 Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, 
Oracle/DB2 on Unix
 servers.
 Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, 
SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
 Linux.

 Not bad.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
Eclipse IDE)


 I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very
reasonable
 discount)

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
 company supply
 them?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
 be obvious to
 experienced IS developers) also have the belief that 
standardisation is
 good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
 degree and
 they will all be locked down so that you can't change
 anything. You can't
 even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
 you'd better like
 it because you can't install anything else. All in the 
sacred name of
 productivity.
 
 Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
 
 I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
 my tinkering
 on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
 company, but you
 wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
 have introduced
 to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
 evaluated by tinkering
 with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, 
these tools are
 Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
 Cygwin. The funny
 thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
 going to be
 part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
 
 Simon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
 Hi all,
  I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
  Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
 everybody to adopt my
 recomendations.
 My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
 order is order.
  I think his concern about this task is to improve
 productivity. So, what is more productive?
  Following our discussion, does someone have experience
 writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
 this kind of task?
 
 Best regards,
  Daniel.
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread Alex


On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:

 My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, order is order.
  I think his concern about this task is to improve productivity. So, what is more 
productive?

If he wants productivity then let the developers use the tools they are
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RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread Chappell, Simon P

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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:

 My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, 
order is order.
  I think his concern about this task is to improve 
productivity. So, what is more productive?

If he wants productivity then let the developers use the tools they are
familiar with.

You are so right, but also so not going to get that. Sorry. See the Standardised 
Environments thread for this very point.

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Re: db connection pool question

2003-01-21 Thread Rick Reumann
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 9:56:09 AM, david wrote:

dc Hi,  I am using a connection pool from
dc org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory and the driver is
dc oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver. It works great until if the
dc server idle for a few days, then the connection object seems
dc broken with this error:  begin error mesg ===
dc java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Software caused connection
dc abort: socket wr ite error   at

I believe I had similar problems here as well but it usually only
happened when the DBA would for some reason decide to kill connections
that were open. I went with configuring the pooling with whatever
comes packaged with Tomcat and configuring it in the server.xml
making sure to add the extra overhead of performing a validation query

parameter
   namevalidationQuery/name
   valueSELECT 'CRAP' FROM DUAL/value
/parameter

Not sure what app server you are running but maybe somewhere you can
set up a similar parameter to make sure it is handing out a valid
connection from the pool. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to this
stuff and just followed some examples I saw. Until I added the above
validationQuery I believe I got similar errors to what you
experienced.

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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
That's why you could never work in my office.  It's Winamp or the road.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:12 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 I agree, that working in the dark corners churning out 
 working code is the best way to silence management and that's 
 what I try to do. I'm just dispairing about the fact that 
 management think that their actions are necessary.
 
 I'm a known corporate rebel anyway and I install whatever I 
 want on my machine. Sometimes I get in trouble for it, 
 especially Struts, but then after management has it's 
 screaming fit, they come around to seeing that I was right. 
 Other than being directed by my manager to send out apology 
 emails now and then, it's almost fun.
 
 BTW: Winamp sucks, try Music Match Jukebox if you use a 
 Windows box, otherwise iTunes rocks! (I love my Mac! :-)
 
 Simon 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:04 AM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Oh and I forgot to add Ant, Log4J, Cactus and Scarab.  Life is 
 grand when
 most people don't have a clue what the hell you are doing.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Nicolas De Loof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:00 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Waaa !
 
 It took us 2 years to come to struts + log4j. I'm trying to 
 promote tomcat
 and eclipse as test/development platform... for 2004 ?
 
 Perhaps Linux and PostgreSQL in 2020.
 
 Nico.
 
  Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)
 
  When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
  Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, 
 Oracle/DB2 on Unix
  servers.
  Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, 
 SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
  Linux.
 
  Not bad.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
  To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
  I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very
 reasonable
  discount)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
  To: Struts Users Mailing List
  Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
  
  
  So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
  company supply
  them?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
  To: Struts Users Mailing List
  Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
  
  
  Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
  be obvious to
  experienced IS developers) also have the belief that 
 standardisation is
  good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
  degree and
  they will all be locked down so that you can't change
  anything. You can't
  even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
  you'd better like
  it because you can't install anything else. All in the 
 sacred name of
  productivity.
  
  Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
  
  I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
  my tinkering
  on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
  company, but you
  wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
  have introduced
  to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
  evaluated by tinkering
  with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, 
 these tools are
  Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
  Cygwin. The funny
  thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
  going to be
  part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
  
  Simon
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
  
  
  Hi all,
   I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
   Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
  everybody to adopt my
  recomendations.
  My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
  order is order.
   I think his concern about this task is to improve
  productivity. So, what is more productive?
   Following our discussion, does someone have experience
  writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
  this kind of task?
  
  Best regards,
   Daniel.
  
  
  
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RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread James Childers

I second this. Different people work in different ways; standardizing an IDE for every 
developer ignores this rather key fact of human nature. If my company were to 
standardize on an IDE that some people don't like, they're just going to be frustrated 
and bitter, decreasing productivity.

*shudder* Thank Baal they don't do that at my company. Everybody can use whatever 
development tools they want, so long as the code compiles and passes the unit tests. 

I use Eclipse and Vim, primarily. If management tried to take away Vim I would have to 
tell them to... well... You get the idea.

Speaking of which, I've been tinkering with IDEA lately, and it looks quite promising. 
Tight, and as fast as Eclipse. Plus I like the fact that I can do everything within it 
without using the keyboard. And it can do regexp search and replaces, which is one of 
the main things keeping me married to Vim right now.

-= J

 -Original Message-
 From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:16 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:
 
  My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, 
 order is order.
   I think his concern about this task is to improve 
 productivity. So, what is more productive?
 
 If he wants productivity then let the developers use the 
 tools they are
 familiar with.
 

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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Chappell, Simon P


-Original Message-
From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:19 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
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That's why you could never work in my office.  It's Winamp or the road.

Your loss! :-P

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RE: db connection pool question

2003-01-21 Thread Raible, Matt
Actually, the solution that I had only works for MySQL.  I'm having the same
problem with Oracle.  Funny - I just posted a message to the commons-user
group asking this same question.  I'll try adding the validationQuery
parameter:

parameter
   namevalidationQuery/name
   valueSELECT 'CRAP' FROM DUAL/value
/parameter

Thanks,

Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:58 AM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: db connection pool question
 
 
 please look at the thread with subject Problem with JDBC  Struts
 Connection Pool (possible to recon nect?).  Matt Raible had 
 a solution to
 that by setting autoReconnect=true
 
 -Original Message-
 From: david chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:56 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: db connection pool question
 
 
 Hi,
  I am using a connection pool from
 org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory and the
 driver is oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver. It works
 great until if the server idle for a few days, then
 the connection object seems broken with this error:
  begin error mesg ===
 java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Software caused
 connection abort: socket wr
 ite error   at
 oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:168)
   at
 oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:210)
 at
 oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:323)
   at
 oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:417)
at
 oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:432)
at
 oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedState
 ment.java:182)   at
 oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.privatePrepareStatement(OracleCon
 nection.java:602)at
 oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection
 .java:538)at
 org.apache.commons.dbcp.DelegatingConnection.prepareStatement(
 DelegatingConn
 ection.java:197)
 ...
 =  end of error mesg 
 
 What happen and how can I prevent this?
 Thanks.
 David
 
 
 
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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Vinh Tran
Wow...that is quite a transition.  I'm curious to know if these changes were
met with alot of opposition?  How long did it take?

Vinh

-Original Message-
From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:51 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
servers.
Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
Linux.

Not bad.

-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable
discount)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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Re: Justifying Tag Libraries - Slightly long

2003-01-21 Thread Alex
You tested a static page against a dynamic page. You should have tested 2
dynamic pages; one that used tags and one that didn't. Your conclusion is
meaningless.

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Vikram Goyal wrote:

 Hi all,

 After failing to convince my boss otherwise about his fear of slowing down the 
performance of an internationalizated web application by the use of Struts tags, I 
decided to set up a stress test environment to prove that tags do not have that high 
a performance issue. However, much to my dismay and surprise, I found that my boss 
was correct! Tags, do indeed, affect performance, and we are not talking about 
nanoseconds of difference. Here is my test environement and how I went about doing so:

 Single Client Machine: Windows XP Pro - with 512 MB RAM, Pentium 4 (1.7Mhz),  IE 5.5.
 Server: Windows XP Pro running Weblogic 7.1 with 512 MB RAM, Pentium 4 (1.7 Mhz)

 Stress Test Tool: Microsoft Web Application Stress Tool

 Struts Version: Struts 1.1b2.

 Testing method:
 1. Ran 1000 threads on a simple JSP page, which used bean tags to render the content 
of the page. This is a simple page, which contains a lot of text, all of which is 
read from ApplicationResources.  This page was ideal for the test as it had the most 
tags (40+).
 2. Ran 1000 threads on the same page. However, this page, is static, meaning, that 
the page accessed was pre generated using an internationlation mechanism that simply 
generates static html pages for different languages and puts them in respective 
i18ned directories. So a user who understands spanish would go to the document root 
for spanish and so on.

 Well, the results:
 Without boring you with all the figures, let me just put get into the result 
analysis.
 Overall, I found that for the first case, the difference between the time taken to 
get the first byte(ttfb) of the page and time taken to get the last byte(ttlb) of the 
page, was vast. In the second case, this difference was miniscual. This meant, that 
in the first case, the pages were received faster, but took longer to finish 
downloading. In the second case, the pages took slightly longer to come through, but 
finished downloading much much faster than the first case (150 times faster than 
first case).

 I ran the tests three times for 25, 100 and 1000 clients and all the tests results 
gave the same analysis.

 With these figures in hand, I had no answer to my boss's snide remarks about uh, hmm 
... well never mind, except to say that I had no answer.  What I am hoping from the 
list is if someone can help me understand why this would happen, would this be as 
expected and well, how do you still justify the usage of tags.

 Best Regards,
 Vikram Goyal


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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Pani, Gourav
most of the process took about 6 months, which isn't bad at all in my
opinion.  as far as opposition is concered, we got some from the
chronologically challenged members of the team but alas, they were
outnumbered.  my only wish is that jEdit would improve its vi plugin.  then
the circle would really be complete.

-Original Message-
From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Wow...that is quite a transition.  I'm curious to know if these changes were
met with alot of opposition?  How long did it take?

Vinh

-Original Message-
From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:51 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
servers.
Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
Linux.

Not bad.

-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable
discount)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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AW: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread s . frank
I think there exist many and more fruitful ways to express your
individuality than using IDE A rather than that ide B.

If the IDE is not important, why not standardize one: Makes it easier for
administrators to setup new boxes, allows to pass the box to another
member of your team, allows to use the same plug-ins and so on: Just think
about Integration with version-Control: Cowboy-Coder A uses Eclipse which
has a bug with Perforce-Integration, Cowboy-Coder B insists on using
IntelliJ, which has no Perforce-Integration at all: And the Newbie-Coder
comes in and is totally confused as there exist three ways of setting up
your enviroment. No Standards at all are ok if you have a team-size of
one...

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Datum: 21.01.2003 16:20
Von: James Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


 I second this. Different people work in different ways; standardizing an
IDE for every developer ignores this rather key fact of human nature. If
my company were to standardize on an IDE that some people don't like,
they're just going to be frustrated and bitter, decreasing productivity.

 *shudder* Thank Baal they don't do that at my company. Everybody can use
whatever development tools they want, so long as the code compiles and
passes the unit tests.

 I use Eclipse and Vim, primarily. If management tried to take away Vim I
would have to tell them to... well... You get the idea.

 Speaking of which, I've been tinkering with IDEA lately, and it looks
quite promising. Tight, and as fast as Eclipse. Plus I like the fact that
I can do everything within it without using the keyboard. And it can do
regexp search and replaces, which is one of the main things keeping me
married to Vim right now.

 -= J

  -Original Message-
  From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:16 AM
  To: Struts Users Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
  On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:
 
   My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
  order is order.
I think his concern about this task is to improve
  productivity. So, what is more productive?
 
  If he wants productivity then let the developers use the
  tools they are
  familiar with.
 

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Re: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Kenny Smith
I tried to on many occasions, but it never worked for me. I reported a 
bug and the author told me that I had to have the Package Explorer 
visible when I tried to Add Easy Struts Support... but I did have it 
visible. I never got a response back from him.

I'm currently very happy using NetBeans and StrutsConsole.

Kenny Smith
JournalScape.com

Softwareentwicklung Hauschel wrote:
Hey all,
does anybody develop with easy struts and eclipse ?

Ich wünsche Ihnen noch einen schönen Tag,
Fred Robert Hauschel

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FormBean (ActionForm) vs BusinessObject (JavaBean)

2003-01-21 Thread Heligon Sandra

I am writing a document about the design of my struts application
and
I have difficulites to explain the view components behavior.
It is probabaly because I don't understant well how the view part of
the 
Struts framework runs.

Here as I work and thank you in advance to indicate to me that it is
the best method if it is not this one. 
All the data which I wish to display is reprensted in the form of
JavaBean. Through the action class
I ask to the remote application server a XML description of the
businness object and then I fill a JavaBean instance.
In the JSP I use the bean tag library (bean:write for example) to
display data.
In the cas of  the view must accept input from users, I have used an
DynaActionForm (or
FormBean I think it is two words for the same context isn't it ?).
I define a form-property for each input of the user. Then in the
JSP page I add the tag 
html:form and html:text property=  to point on a specif property
in the case or I need 
to save the value of the input user, I defined a JavaBean class to
store this information.
The JavaBean is updated in the Action class, with this method:
DynaValidatorForm loginForm = (DynaValidatorForm)form;
User userInfo;
String userName = (String)(loginForm.get(userName));
String password = (String)(loginForm.get(password));
userInfo.setPassword(password);
userInfo.setUserName(userName);
Is it the best think to do with an aim of ensuring
synchronization between FormBean and Business   Delegates/Value objects .
We have the impression to duplicate variables that are in your Value
Objects in your form object.
The code example describes the link FormBean - JavaBean (value
object). But I never use
the link JavaBean (value object) - FormBean because in this case I
used the bean:write tag.
I am not perhaps very clear to excuse me but it is undoubtedly with
the fact that I have difficulties tounderstand well how runs the Struts
view components (FormBean).
if somebody has a diagram which explains this mechanism thank you
to send it.
Sandra 








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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Vinh Tran
What about management?  I'm sure they liked the idea of saving alot of
money.  But how did they respond to open source solutions?

-Original Message-
From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:28 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


most of the process took about 6 months, which isn't bad at all in my
opinion.  as far as opposition is concered, we got some from the
chronologically challenged members of the team but alas, they were
outnumbered.  my only wish is that jEdit would improve its vi plugin.  then
the circle would really be complete.

-Original Message-
From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Wow...that is quite a transition.  I'm curious to know if these changes were
met with alot of opposition?  How long did it take?

Vinh

-Original Message-
From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:51 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
servers.
Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
Linux.

Not bad.

-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable
discount)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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FormBean (ActionForm) vs BusinessObject (JavaBean)

2003-01-21 Thread Heligon Sandra
I am writing a document about the design of my struts application and
I have difficulites to explain the view components behavior.
It is probabaly because I don't understant well how the view part of
the 
Struts framework runs.

Here as I work and thank you in advance to indicate to me that it is
the best method if it is not this one. 
All the data which I wish to display is reprensted in the form of
JavaBean. Through the action class
I ask to the remote application server a XML description of the
businness object and then I fill a JavaBean instance.
In the JSP I use the bean tag library (bean:write for example) to
display data.
In the cas of  the view must accept input from users, I have used an
DynaActionForm (or
FormBean I think it is two words for the same context isn't it ?).
I define a form-property for each input of the user. Then in the
JSP page I add the tag 
html:form and html:text property=  to point on a specif property
in the case or I need 
to save the value of the input user, I defined a JavaBean class to
store this information.
The JavaBean is updated in the Action class, with this method:
DynaValidatorForm loginForm = (DynaValidatorForm)form;
User userInfo;
String userName = (String)(loginForm.get(userName));
String password = (String)(loginForm.get(password));
userInfo.setPassword(password);
userInfo.setUserName(userName);
Is it the best think to do with an aim of ensuring
synchronization between FormBean and Business   Delegates/Value objects .
We have the impression to duplicate variables that are in your Value
Objects in your form object.
The code example describes the link FormBean - JavaBean (value
object). But I never use
the link JavaBean (value object) - FormBean because in this case I
used the bean:write tag.
I am not perhaps very clear to excuse me but it is undoubtedly with
the fact that I have difficulties tounderstand well how runs the Struts
view components (FormBean).
if somebody has a diagram which explains this mechanism thank you
to send it.
Sandra 


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RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread Chappell, Simon P
The IDE is important to the developer, but not to the team. Therefore the developer 
should pick their own IDE.

The build system is important to the team, so the team should pick the build system.

The Source Code Management system is important to the company, so let the company pick 
the SCM.

I have no objection to standards that help a given situation, but standards don't help 
when they are used like duct tape to bind your hands.

I actually prefer to use text editors instead of IDE's, but if the developer in the 
next cube wants to use an IDE, then that is fine. As long as they produce good code 
that meets the project need and passes it's unit tests, what do I care how it was 
brought into being.

Simon

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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:30 AM
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I think there exist many and more fruitful ways to express your
individuality than using IDE A rather than that ide B.  

If the IDE is not important, why not standardize one: Makes it 
easier for
administrators to setup new boxes, allows to pass the box to another
member of your team, allows to use the same plug-ins and so 
on: Just think
about Integration with version-Control: Cowboy-Coder A uses 
Eclipse which
has a bug with Perforce-Integration, Cowboy-Coder B insists on using
IntelliJ, which has no Perforce-Integration at all: And the 
Newbie-Coder
comes in and is totally confused as there exist three ways of 
setting up
your enviroment. No Standards at all are ok if you have a team-size of
one... 
 
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- 
Datum: 21.01.2003 16:20
Von: James Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
 I second this. Different people work in different ways; 
standardizing an
IDE for every developer ignores this rather key fact of human 
nature. If
my company were to standardize on an IDE that some people don't like,
they're just going to be frustrated and bitter, decreasing 
productivity.
 
 *shudder* Thank Baal they don't do that at my company. 
Everybody can use
whatever development tools they want, so long as the code compiles and
passes the unit tests. 
 
 I use Eclipse and Vim, primarily. If management tried to 
take away Vim I
would have to tell them to... well... You get the idea.
 
 Speaking of which, I've been tinkering with IDEA lately, and it looks
quite promising. Tight, and as fast as Eclipse. Plus I like 
the fact that
I can do everything within it without using the keyboard. And it can do
regexp search and replaces, which is one of the main things keeping me
married to Vim right now.
 
 -= J
 
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  From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:16 AM
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  Subject: Re: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
  
  On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:
  
   My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, 
  order is order.
I think his concern about this task is to improve 
  productivity. So, what is more productive?
  
  If he wants productivity then let the developers use the 
  tools they are
  familiar with.
  
 
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Detecting what linkof the page is pressed

2003-01-21 Thread Rick Ashley
Hello,

I have a jsp page containing multiple html:links.
Is it possible to get information about that what html:link
is pressed by user and then put own variable flag to e.g. session?

I mean e.g. code like below:

!-- start of jsp --
html:link forward=myapp.mypage1 
 logic:match ... 
	jsp:setProperty name=myBean property=selection value=myapp.mypage1 
/
 /logic:match
/html:link

html:link forward=myapp.mypage2 
 logic:match ... 
	jsp:setProperty name=myBean property=selection value=myapp.mypage2 
/
 /logic:match
/html:link
!-- end of jsp --

Or are there other solutions?

Thanks,

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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Chappell, Simon P
Typically management worry about not having someone to blame if there is a problem. My 
own manager was asking who we would have recourse against (is this a polite way of 
saying Sue them into the ground?) if there was a problem with the Struts code. I 
told him that there was the ASF, but that there is an explicit no warranty clause in 
the Apache licence. He wasn't keen to hear that. Money is usually a very small factor 
in the issue.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


What about management?  I'm sure they liked the idea of saving alot of
money.  But how did they respond to open source solutions?

-Original Message-
From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:28 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


most of the process took about 6 months, which isn't bad at all in my
opinion.  as far as opposition is concered, we got some from the
chronologically challenged members of the team but alas, they were
outnumbered.  my only wish is that jEdit would improve its vi 
plugin.  then
the circle would really be complete.

-Original Message-
From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Wow...that is quite a transition.  I'm curious to know if 
these changes were
met with alot of opposition?  How long did it take?

Vinh

-Original Message-
From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:51 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
servers.
Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, 
SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
Linux.

Not bad.

-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a 
very reasonable
discount)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that 
standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these 
tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE

2003-01-21 Thread Haseltine, Celeste
Daniel, 

Eclipse is much faster than Netbeans, in my opinion, and is not as much of a
memory hog as Netbeans is.  If you select the right plug-ins, Eclipse is an
excellent IDE for all J2EE development EXCEPT JSP pages.  We use Eclipse
here for everything (EJB, Java Beans, servlets) BUT JSP development, and use
Macromedia Dreamweaver MX for the JSP development.  Dreamweaver MX has the
ability to pull in external tag libraries into the IDE, and will enable
code completion for those tag libraries inside of it's IDE.  So when I
incorporated the Struts logic, HTML, and bean tag libraries into
Dreamweaver, the code completion for those tags is enabled for our JSP
developers.  HTML layout/design is also much simpler in Dreamweaver, as long
as you stay away from the wizards that are included in Dreamweaver (adds too
much extraneous code into the HTML).

Hopefully, the HTML and JSP development features of Eclipse will be improved
soon.

Celeste

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE


Hi all,
 I know that it is very possible that this subject was already discussed
here, but i couldn't
search on archives (why is this resource disabled?).
 I'm beginning to design a software development process specification as a
job task. It will
include, for instance, a list of all tools, software, frameworks, etc,
necessary to develop
Web-based solutions in J2EE platform.
 And after doing a lot of research, i've found that open-source world has
two leading IDEs:
Netbeans and Eclipse.
 I'd like to hear about experiences with both of them. In my preliminary
tests i guess it was
difficult to work with Eclipse with focus on Web development. For instance,
it doesn't have a cool
JSP editor like Netbeans. I've tried an Eclipse plugin, but its features are
inferior than
Netbeans offered features.
 But i liked Eclipse's plugins feature. And it has a better aproach to
manage code quality than
Netbeans.
 So, opinions?

Best regards,
 Daniel.

PS: Sorry for possible language mistakes. English is not my native language.

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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Jerry Jalenak
The beauty of open-source: if there is a problem with the Struts code, open
up the source, fix it, and submit the patch.  Everyone benefits.


Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:44 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Typically management worry about not having someone to blame 
 if there is a problem. My own manager was asking who we would 
 have recourse against (is this a polite way of saying Sue 
 them into the ground?) if there was a problem with the 
 Struts code. I told him that there was the ASF, but that 
 there is an explicit no warranty clause in the Apache 
 licence. He wasn't keen to hear that. Money is usually a very 
 small factor in the issue.
 
 Simon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:43 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 What about management?  I'm sure they liked the idea of 
 saving alot of
 money.  But how did they respond to open source solutions?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:28 AM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 most of the process took about 6 months, which isn't bad at all in my
 opinion.  as far as opposition is concered, we got some from the
 chronologically challenged members of the team but alas, they were
 outnumbered.  my only wish is that jEdit would improve its vi 
 plugin.  then
 the circle would really be complete.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:31 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Wow...that is quite a transition.  I'm curious to know if 
 these changes were
 met with alot of opposition?  How long did it take?
 
 Vinh
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:51 AM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)
 
 When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
 Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, 
 Oracle/DB2 on Unix
 servers.
 Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, 
 SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
 Linux.
 
 Not bad.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a 
 very reasonable
 discount)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] 
 Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
 company supply
 them?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)
 
 
 Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
 be obvious to
 experienced IS developers) also have the belief that 
 standardisation is
 good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
 degree and
 they will all be locked down so that you can't change
 anything. You can't
 even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
 you'd better like
 it because you can't install anything else. All in the 
 sacred name of
 productivity.
 
 Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?
 
 I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
 my tinkering
 on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
 company, but you
 wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
 have introduced
 to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
 evaluated by tinkering
 with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these 
 tools are
 Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
 Cygwin. The funny
 thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
 going to be
 part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.
 
 Simon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
 Hi all,
  I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
  Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate

RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread James Childers
This isn't about expressing your individuality, it's about doing what makes you -- 
the coder -- more productive. If it's your job to write code, and you feel more 
comfortable using your favorite tool, then by all means use it. 

As far as administrative costs are concerned: Coders are smart enough to troubleshoot 
their own boxes, and if they're not then they damn well should be. 

Newbies? I challenge the notion that forcing new toolsets on them is productive in the 
long run. It is completely within the realm of possibility that they will have a 
shorter ramp-up time if they are able to use tools they are already familiar with to 
integrate with existing standards.

In short: I have never encountered a development environment where it would be better 
to standardize upon a single, monolithic work environment for all developers. Some 
people like Emacs, some like Eclipse, some like directly editing bytecode with a hex 
editor. Whatever. So long as the project gets done on time, on budget, and meets the 
requirements *it doesn't matter*. 

-= J 

PS: I am currently working on a team of 12 developers who each use their own toolset. 
We are ahead of schedule and under budget. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:30 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: AW: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
 I think there exist many and more fruitful ways to express your
 individuality than using IDE A rather than that ide B.  
 
 If the IDE is not important, why not standardize one: Makes 
 it easier for
 administrators to setup new boxes, allows to pass the box to another
 member of your team, allows to use the same plug-ins and so 
 on: Just think
 about Integration with version-Control: Cowboy-Coder A uses 
 Eclipse which
 has a bug with Perforce-Integration, Cowboy-Coder B insists on using
 IntelliJ, which has no Perforce-Integration at all: And the 
 Newbie-Coder
 comes in and is totally confused as there exist three ways of 
 setting up
 your enviroment. No Standards at all are ok if you have a team-size of
 one... 
  
 --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- 
 Datum: 21.01.2003 16:20
 Von: James Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
  
  
  I second this. Different people work in different ways; 
 standardizing an
 IDE for every developer ignores this rather key fact of human 
 nature. If
 my company were to standardize on an IDE that some people don't like,
 they're just going to be frustrated and bitter, decreasing 
 productivity.
  
  *shudder* Thank Baal they don't do that at my company. 
 Everybody can use
 whatever development tools they want, so long as the code compiles and
 passes the unit tests. 
  
  I use Eclipse and Vim, primarily. If management tried to 
 take away Vim I
 would have to tell them to... well... You get the idea.
  
  Speaking of which, I've been tinkering with IDEA lately, 
 and it looks
 quite promising. Tight, and as fast as Eclipse. Plus I like 
 the fact that
 I can do everything within it without using the keyboard. And 
 it can do
 regexp search and replaces, which is one of the main things keeping me
 married to Vim right now.
  
  -= J
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:16 AM
   To: Struts Users Mailing List
   Subject: Re: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
   
   On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:
   
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, 
   order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve 
   productivity. So, what is more productive?
   
   If he wants productivity then let the developers use the 
   tools they are
   familiar with.
   
  

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RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE

2003-01-21 Thread David Graham
That's not an opinion it's a fact.  Netbeans is based on Swing which is slow 
as molasses.  Check your OS's memory monitor to see the difference (about 30 
MB).  Click on a Netbeans menu and you can feel the unresponsiveness.

David






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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:39:19 -0600

Daniel,

Eclipse is much faster than Netbeans, in my opinion, and is not as much of 
a
memory hog as Netbeans is.  If you select the right plug-ins, Eclipse is an
excellent IDE for all J2EE development EXCEPT JSP pages.  We use Eclipse
here for everything (EJB, Java Beans, servlets) BUT JSP development, and 
use
Macromedia Dreamweaver MX for the JSP development.  Dreamweaver MX has the
ability to pull in external tag libraries into the IDE, and will enable
code completion for those tag libraries inside of it's IDE.  So when I
incorporated the Struts logic, HTML, and bean tag libraries into
Dreamweaver, the code completion for those tags is enabled for our JSP
developers.  HTML layout/design is also much simpler in Dreamweaver, as 
long
as you stay away from the wizards that are included in Dreamweaver (adds 
too
much extraneous code into the HTML).

Hopefully, the HTML and JSP development features of Eclipse will be 
improved
soon.

Celeste

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From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE


Hi all,
 I know that it is very possible that this subject was already discussed
here, but i couldn't
search on archives (why is this resource disabled?).
 I'm beginning to design a software development process specification as a
job task. It will
include, for instance, a list of all tools, software, frameworks, etc,
necessary to develop
Web-based solutions in J2EE platform.
 And after doing a lot of research, i've found that open-source world has
two leading IDEs:
Netbeans and Eclipse.
 I'd like to hear about experiences with both of them. In my preliminary
tests i guess it was
difficult to work with Eclipse with focus on Web development. For instance,
it doesn't have a cool
JSP editor like Netbeans. I've tried an Eclipse plugin, but its features 
are
inferior than
Netbeans offered features.
 But i liked Eclipse's plugins feature. And it has a better aproach to
manage code quality than
Netbeans.
 So, opinions?

Best regards,
 Daniel.

PS: Sorry for possible language mistakes. English is not my native 
language.

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RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE

2003-01-21 Thread ROSSEL Olivier
Then what's the way Idea works?
It is supposed to be fast.
Which widget family does it use?

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Re: AW: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread Kenny Smith
Hi s.frank,

I think your first paragraph and second make different points. I 
completely disagree that choice of IDE is just an aesthetic choice. Your 
second point about the Perforce-Integration is talking about specific 
functionality. If your project requires specific functionality, then the 
choices of IDEs are limited. However, people think differently. Take 
NetBeans and Eclipse. They do the same job, but they do it in VASTLY 
different ways. Why? Because different people have different ideas. One 
person will be far more productive using Eclipse and a different person 
will be more productive with NetBeans.

Seriously... who _cares_ if it's easier for an administrator to setup a 
new box. That is a one time event and completely gets lost in the amount 
of time a developer will spend using the machine. In addition, IDEs are 
pretty darn easy to install. My box at work came without one, I chose my 
favorite and installed that one.

It's a myth that using one IDE improves team performance.

Kenny Smith
JournalScape.com

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think there exist many and more fruitful ways to express your
individuality than using IDE A rather than that ide B.  

If the IDE is not important, why not standardize one: Makes it easier for
administrators to setup new boxes, allows to pass the box to another
member of your team, allows to use the same plug-ins and so on: Just think
about Integration with version-Control: Cowboy-Coder A uses Eclipse which
has a bug with Perforce-Integration, Cowboy-Coder B insists on using
IntelliJ, which has no Perforce-Integration at all: And the Newbie-Coder
comes in and is totally confused as there exist three ways of setting up
your enviroment. No Standards at all are ok if you have a team-size of
one... 
 
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- 
Datum: 21.01.2003 16:20
Von: James Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 

I second this. Different people work in different ways; standardizing an


IDE for every developer ignores this rather key fact of human nature. If
my company were to standardize on an IDE that some people don't like,
they're just going to be frustrated and bitter, decreasing productivity.


*shudder* Thank Baal they don't do that at my company. Everybody can use


whatever development tools they want, so long as the code compiles and
passes the unit tests. 

I use Eclipse and Vim, primarily. If management tried to take away Vim I


would have to tell them to... well... You get the idea.


Speaking of which, I've been tinkering with IDEA lately, and it looks


quite promising. Tight, and as fast as Eclipse. Plus I like the fact that
I can do everything within it without using the keyboard. And it can do
regexp search and replaces, which is one of the main things keeping me
married to Vim right now.


-= J



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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:



My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, 

order is order.


I think his concern about this task is to improve 

productivity. So, what is more productive?

If he wants productivity then let the developers use the 
tools they are
familiar with.


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RE: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread Haseltine, Celeste
Yes, we use both EasyStruts and Eclipse in our current project.  We are
using Struts version 1.02

Celeste

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Hey all,
does anybody develop with easy struts and eclipse ?

Ich wünsche Ihnen noch einen schönen Tag,
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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Pani, Gourav
The saving money ploy goes a long way.  The only thing they had objections
to were Support issues.  But when they saw the wonderful WebShpere support
we got, they realized there was no point in paying to get service.
Additionally, at the time that we made these changes we got a CIO who is a
tech guy and was very supportive of these changes.  The money thing was
still the clincher.

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What about management?  I'm sure they liked the idea of saving alot of
money.  But how did they respond to open source solutions?

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most of the process took about 6 months, which isn't bad at all in my
opinion.  as far as opposition is concered, we got some from the
chronologically challenged members of the team but alas, they were
outnumbered.  my only wish is that jEdit would improve its vi plugin.  then
the circle would really be complete.

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Wow...that is quite a transition.  I'm curious to know if these changes were
met with alot of opposition?  How long did it take?

Vinh

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Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad.  :)

When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere
Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix
servers.
Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat
Linux.

Not bad.

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I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable
discount)

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So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
company supply
them?


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Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined,
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
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Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate
everybody to adopt my
recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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Re: easy struts

2003-01-21 Thread alexj
You didn't have any trouble ? Please have a look of my previous post
about easy struts. Maybe you can see what's wrong.

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Yes, we use both EasyStruts and Eclipse in our current project.  We are
using Struts version 1.02

Celeste

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Hey all,
does anybody develop with easy struts and eclipse ?

Ich wünsche Ihnen noch einen schönen Tag,
Fred Robert Hauschel

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FomrBean(ActionForm) vs BusinessObject(JavaBean)

2003-01-21 Thread Heligon Sandra
if you already received this mail want to be unaware of this one,
the first time I received a message of  insult concerning a virus this is
why I renew my sending. 

I am writing a document about the design of my Struts application
and
I have a lot of difficulties to explain how the view components run.
By view components I indicate ActionForm (or more precisely
DynaActionForm) 
because I used Struts1.1b2.
First question: ActionForm and FormBean are two words for the same
concept,
isn't it ?

I am not sure to have understood well how the link is done between
the view and
the data model of the application.
Here as how I work and thank you in advance to indicate if it is not
the best method.

All the data of the business model that I wish to display is
represented by JavaBean class.
I ask to our remote application server an XML descirption of the
business data and I 
fill the corresponding JavaBean instance.
Next I do a forward to the corresponding JSP. In the JSP I use the
bean library (bean:write
for example) to display the content of the JavaBean.

In the case of I want to get a value (input value = editing field)
enter by the user, I used
a DynaActionForm. I defined in struts-config.xml file a tag
form-property for each
input of the user.
In the JSP I add use the tags html:form and html:text property= 
to get the input user.
In the case or I need to store the value,  I use a JavaBean to store
the information:

DynaValidatorForm loginForm = (DynaValidatorForm) form;
User userInfo;

String userName = (String) ( loginForm.get(username);
String passWord = (String) ( loginForm.get(password);

userInfo.setUserName(userName);
userinfo.setPassWord(passWord); 

This code illustrates the path FormBean - JavaBean

We have the impression to duplicate variables that are in your Value
object in you form object.

I never use the path JavaBean - FormBean because in this case I use
the bean library in
JSP page.
It's strange isn't it ?

I am not perhaps very clear to excuse me but it is undoubtedly with
the fact that I have
difficulties to understand how ensure synchronisation between
ActionForm and JavaBean.
If somebody has a diagram wich explains the ActionForm/FormBean
mechanism thank you
to send it.

Sandra



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AW: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

2003-01-21 Thread s . frank
ok, I think it's time for us all, to lower our standards: Talking about
newbies: The newbies I mean have just started Java. They think R/3 is a
piece of good Software instead of a piece of crappy scripts. They asked
things like: What do you mean with Transaction?,  Huh, why a database
*and* an applicationserver?. And if you ask them for their favourite
tool, they show you a Chainsaw and a Screwdriver(ok, only the better ones
have screwdrivers). If you tell them: Use what makes you more productive
they stick to paperpencil. I understand them, if you start there, there
is nothing you can decide upon. You have to tell them: But if you have
more than one senior-coder, it would be nice if they agreed on what they
tell them...


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Von: James Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Betreff: RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

 This isn't about expressing your individuality, it's about doing what
makes you -- the coder -- more productive. If it's your job to write code,
and you feel more comfortable using your favorite tool, then by all means
use it.

 As far as administrative costs are concerned: Coders are smart enough to
troubleshoot their own boxes, and if they're not then they damn well
should be.

 Newbies? I challenge the notion that forcing new toolsets on them is
productive in the long run. It is completely within the realm of
possibility that they will have a shorter ramp-up time if they are able to
use tools they are already familiar with to integrate with existing
standards.

 In short: I have never encountered a development environment where it
would be better to standardize upon a single, monolithic work environment
for all developers. Some people like Emacs, some like Eclipse, some like
directly editing bytecode with a hex editor. Whatever. So long as the
project gets done on time, on budget, and meets the requirements *it
doesn't matter*.

 -= J

 PS: I am currently working on a team of 12 developers who each use their
own toolset. We are ahead of schedule and under budget.

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:30 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: AW: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
 
  I think there exist many and more fruitful ways to express your
  individuality than using IDE A rather than that ide B.
 
  If the IDE is not important, why not standardize one: Makes
  it easier for
  administrators to setup new boxes, allows to pass the box to another
  member of your team, allows to use the same plug-ins and so
  on: Just think
  about Integration with version-Control: Cowboy-Coder A uses
  Eclipse which
  has a bug with Perforce-Integration, Cowboy-Coder B insists on using
  IntelliJ, which has no Perforce-Integration at all: And the
  Newbie-Coder
  comes in and is totally confused as there exist three ways of
  setting up
  your enviroment. No Standards at all are ok if you have a team-size
of
  one...
 
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  Datum: 21.01.2003 16:20
  Von: James Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  An: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Betreff: RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers
 
  
   I second this. Different people work in different ways;
  standardizing an
  IDE for every developer ignores this rather key fact of human
  nature. If
  my company were to standardize on an IDE that some people don't like,
  they're just going to be frustrated and bitter, decreasing
  productivity.
  
   *shudder* Thank Baal they don't do that at my company.
  Everybody can use
  whatever development tools they want, so long as the code compiles
and
  passes the unit tests.
  
   I use Eclipse and Vim, primarily. If management tried to
  take away Vim I
  would have to tell them to... well... You get the idea.
  
   Speaking of which, I've been tinkering with IDEA lately,
  and it looks
  quite promising. Tight, and as fast as Eclipse. Plus I like
  the fact that
  I can do everything within it without using the keyboard. And
  it can do
  regexp search and replaces, which is one of the main things keeping
me
  married to Vim right now.
  
   -= J
  
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:
   
 My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
  I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
   
If he wants productivity then let the developers use the
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RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)

2003-01-21 Thread Mark Galbreath
One of the reasons I left the T-Mobile project was because the client was
incredibly anal-retentive about the most trivial crap.  As I always say,
Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.

Death to cube farms and ties!

Mark (wears jeans and hiking boots to the office now)

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I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable
discount)

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So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the
company supply
them?


-Original Message-
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE)


Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will
be obvious to
experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is
good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th 
degree and
they will all be locked down so that you can't change 
anything. You can't
even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, 
you'd better like
it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of
productivity.

Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share?

I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of
my tinkering
on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the 
company, but you
wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I 
have introduced
to the company's IS environment four new tools that I 
evaluated by tinkering
with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are
Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and 
Cygwin. The funny
thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are 
going to be
part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh.

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers


Hi all,
 I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list.
 Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate 
everybody to adopt my recomendations.
My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,
order is order.
 I think his concern about this task is to improve
productivity. So, what is more productive?
 Following our discussion, does someone have experience
writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is
this kind of task?

Best regards,
 Daniel.



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