FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Cruz, Jaime]

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed 
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey, 
which won't install because it's not FireFox.


I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs... 
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!


They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer 
file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we 
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the 
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Ed Mullen]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



Now you know why Steve Jobs considers Adobe Flash to be Evil.

While I don't whole-heartedly subscribe to that notion I kind of agree. 
 Adobe's management of the whole thing sucks.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Glen]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Phillip Jones]

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.


The actual Flash Player Plugin that is installed On Mac Goes in either 
the username (name you gave computer) > Library > InternetPlugins 
Directory  or the main  Library > InternetPlugins  (which lets all user 
use it.  and any Web browser that is capable of using Flash will use it 
from the internet plugin  the Folder. So it works at least for 
SeaMonkey, FireFox, Camino, Safari, Opera, OmniWeb and iCab.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Jim Carlock]

"Phillip Jones"  wrote in message 
news:vo6dna4ewzumhu3rnz2dnuvz_oydn...@mozilla.org...

: -- 
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: http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com

NOTE: All initial folders in all HTTP and HTTPS links end with a forward
slash.

To correct the link to your website so that it works properly in ALL
browsers (never assume a browser tries a link by adding a forward slash)
just add the slash. You're making more work for ALL servers when you do
leave off the trailing forward slash, because it causes the following to
occur on ALL servers:

1) A physical logging of the action to a file,
2) A redirection to the proper link.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.




Running SM 2.0.6 on WinXP and when I click on Agree and install now on 
the web page that worked for you, I get a little warning that "SM 
prevented this site(get.adove.com) from asking you to install software 
on your computer" and to the right I can click on Install Software but 
when I do that I get a Software Installation popup from SM to install 
Adobe DLM http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.xpi but 
when I click on Install Now, I get the following error: "Adobe DLM 
(powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.87 could not be installed because it is 
not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.6."



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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Lee]

On 8/22/10, JD  wrote:
> Glen wrote:
>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
>>> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
>>> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>>>
>>> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
>>> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>>>
>>> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
>>> file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
>>> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
>>> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???
>>>
>>
>> This is where I obtained the latest version from...
>>
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.
>>
>
> Running SM 2.0.6 on WinXP and when I click on Agree and install now on
> the web page that worked for you, I get a little warning that "SM
> prevented this site(get.adove.com) from asking you to install software
> on your computer" and to the right I can click on Install Software but
> when I do that I get a Software Installation popup from SM to install
> Adobe DLM http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.xpi but
> when I click on Install Now, I get the following error: "Adobe DLM
> (powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.87 could not be installed because it is
> not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.6."

What works for me is using IE to get the Firefox Flash installer and
SeaMonkey to get the IE activex installer.  Logout/login as admin &
run the newly downloaded installers

Lee
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Rob C.]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:
How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed 
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey, 
which won't install because it's not FireFox.


I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs... 
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!


They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer 
file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we 
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the 
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



You can still download and install manually here:

For the Plug-in: 
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe 

For Active X: 
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_ax.exe


This comes from the following Adobe page for Troubleshooting 
Flash installs:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19166.html#main_DownloadInstall

They hide the stuff now, but it still exists.
Rob C.
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:
How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed 
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey, 
which won't install because it's not FireFox.


I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs... 
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!


They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer 
file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we 
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the 
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
have ever visited.  I have not found a way around that, yet.
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul]

Lee wrote:

On 8/22/10, JD  wrote:

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???


This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.


Running SM 2.0.6 on WinXP and when I click on Agree and install now on
the web page that worked for you, I get a little warning that "SM
prevented this site(get.adove.com) from asking you to install software
on your computer" and to the right I can click on Install Software but
when I do that I get a Software Installation popup from SM to install
Adobe DLM http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.xpi but
when I click on Install Now, I get the following error: "Adobe DLM
(powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.87 could not be installed because it is
not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.6."


What works for me is using IE to get the Firefox Flash installer and
SeaMonkey to get the IE activex installer.  Logout/login as admin &
run the newly downloaded installers

Lee


I do the same thing.
Using 10.0 for IE8 and 10.1 for SM 1119.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Ed Mullen]

Paul wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've
changed their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to
Seamonkey, which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it
installs... but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???


Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
have ever visited. I have not found a way around that, yet.


And those sites can use the Flash "cookies" to re-create a regular 
cookie that you have deleted.


Get Ccleaner - it will delete the Flash crap.

http://www.piriform.com/

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[d...@kd4e.com]

Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
have ever visited. I have not found a way around that, yet.


And those sites can use the Flash "cookies" to re-create a regular
cookie that you have deleted.


Is this true in Linux and Mac or only MS versions of windows.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Rick]

On 8/22/2010 11:22 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've
changed their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to
Seamonkey, which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it
installs... but it won't RUN because it says you're not running
Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???


Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
have ever visited. I have not found a way around that, yet.


And those sites can use the Flash "cookies" to re-create a regular
cookie that you have deleted.

Get Ccleaner - it will delete the Flash crap.

http://www.piriform.com/


SuperAntiSpyware works very well too at getting rid of Flash Cookies
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[A Williams]

Paul wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 8/22/10, JD  wrote:

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've
changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to
Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it
installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???


This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.


Running SM 2.0.6 on WinXP and when I click on Agree and install now on
the web page that worked for you, I get a little warning that "SM
prevented this site(get.adove.com) from asking you to install software
on your computer" and to the right I can click on Install Software but
when I do that I get a Software Installation popup from SM to install
Adobe DLM http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.xpi but
when I click on Install Now, I get the following error: "Adobe DLM
(powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.87 could not be installed because it is
not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.6."


What works for me is using IE to get the Firefox Flash installer and
SeaMonkey to get the IE activex installer. Logout/login as admin &
run the newly downloaded installers

Lee


I do the same thing.
Using 10.0 for IE8 and 10.1 for SM 1119.




I also have Firefox installed, although I hardly ever use it - just for 
stuff like installing Flash.  On this - my main - machine, no Flash at 
all.  I agree with Steve Jobs  on this point.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/21/10 6:03 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed 
> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey, 
> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
> 
> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs... 
> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
> 
> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer 
> file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we 
> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the 
> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???
> 

I'm seeing a great amoung of blather in this thread that is quite
contrary to my experience.

First of all, when I go to , the
installation file downloads to whatever folder I specify.  It does not
install until I execute that file.

I actually did download Flash 10.1 (actually 10.1.82.76) from that URI
using SeaMonkey 2.0.6 exactly a week ago.  I then installed it for
SeaMonkey without any problems.  Finally, I archived the installation
file, which I do for ALL software and updates that I download and install.

Note that the installation itself does not involve SeaMonkey.  It only
involves executing the installation file.  I generally terminate all
other applications while installing new or updated software.  I
definitely would not use SeaMonkey's Add-ons Manager since Flash is not
an add-on.

Today, I again downloaded the installation file from the same URI.  This
time, I generated both MD5 and SHA1 comparisons between the newly
downloaded file and last week's archived file.  The two files are
identical.  This means you too should be able to download the file via
SeaMonkey and install it.

Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to

and set Flash not to set cookies.

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GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Ed Mullen]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
have ever visited. I have not found a way around that, yet.


And those sites can use the Flash "cookies" to re-create a regular
cookie that you have deleted.


Is this true in Linux and Mac or only MS versions of windows.



http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/08/you-deleted-your-cookies-think-again/
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6709/1/
http://highgear.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/deleting-flash-cookies-mac-os-x/

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Ed Mullen]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/21/10 6:03 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



I'm seeing a great amoung of blather in this thread that is quite
contrary to my experience.

First of all, when I go to, the
installation file downloads to whatever folder I specify.  It does not
install until I execute that file.

I actually did download Flash 10.1 (actually 10.1.82.76) from that URI
using SeaMonkey 2.0.6 exactly a week ago.  I then installed it for
SeaMonkey without any problems.  Finally, I archived the installation
file, which I do for ALL software and updates that I download and install.

Note that the installation itself does not involve SeaMonkey.  It only
involves executing the installation file.  I generally terminate all
other applications while installing new or updated software.  I
definitely would not use SeaMonkey's Add-ons Manager since Flash is not
an add-on.

Today, I again downloaded the installation file from the same URI.  This
time, I generated both MD5 and SHA1 comparisons between the newly
downloaded file and last week's archived file.  The two files are
identical.  This means you too should be able to download the file via
SeaMonkey and install it.

Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to

and set Flash not to set cookies.



Yes but ... Even then sites still create empty folders on your hard 
drive and there appears to be no limit on how many are created.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Shared_Object

See the section "User Control."

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[NoOp]

On 08/22/2010 09:54 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
>>> Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
>>> have ever visited. I have not found a way around that, yet.
>>
>> And those sites can use the Flash "cookies" to re-create a regular
>> cookie that you have deleted.
> 
> Is this true in Linux and Mac or only MS versions of windows.
> 

/home//.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/

You can either delete them. Or delete/control them with:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/6623/



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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[W3BNR]

After much thought NoOp wrote:

On 08/22/2010 09:54 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
have ever visited. I have not found a way around that, yet.


And those sites can use the Flash "cookies" to re-create a regular
cookie that you have deleted.


Is this true in Linux and Mac or only MS versions of windows.



/home//.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/

You can either delete them. Or delete/control them with:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/6623/





Perhaps searcing for *.sol files and deleting all under an 'Adobe' 
directory?


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul]

David E. Ross wrote:>

Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to

and set Flash not to set cookies.


I cannot find that setting.  The only setting I see is for
deleting cookies already set.
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/21/10 6:03 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed 
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey, 
which won't install because it's not FireFox.


I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs... 
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!


They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer 
file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we 
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the 
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???




I'm seeing a great amoung of blather in this thread that is quite
contrary to my experience.

First of all, when I go to , the
installation file downloads to whatever folder I specify.  It does not
install until I execute that file.

I actually did download Flash 10.1 (actually 10.1.82.76) from that URI
using SeaMonkey 2.0.6 exactly a week ago.  I then installed it for
SeaMonkey without any problems.  Finally, I archived the installation
file, which I do for ALL software and updates that I download and install.

Note that the installation itself does not involve SeaMonkey.  It only
involves executing the installation file.  I generally terminate all
other applications while installing new or updated software.  I
definitely would not use SeaMonkey's Add-ons Manager since Flash is not
an add-on.

Today, I again downloaded the installation file from the same URI.  This
time, I generated both MD5 and SHA1 comparisons between the newly
downloaded file and last week's archived file.  The two files are
identical.  This means you too should be able to download the file via
SeaMonkey and install it.

Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to

and set Flash not to set cookies.


It won't download from Adobe to SM 1117. It does nothing.
I already have 10.1 that I got from another web source
so was just trying once more to see if things have changed.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/21/10 6:03 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



I'm seeing a great amoung of blather in this thread that is quite
contrary to my experience.

First of all, when I go to, the
installation file downloads to whatever folder I specify.  It does not
install until I execute that file.


Not the way it works on Windows XP home edition. I was able to locate 
the install file and install it that way.



I actually did download Flash 10.1 (actually 10.1.82.76) from that URI
using SeaMonkey 2.0.6 exactly a week ago.  I then installed it for
SeaMonkey without any problems.  Finally, I archived the installation
file, which I do for ALL software and updates that I download and install.

Note that the installation itself does not involve SeaMonkey.  It only
involves executing the installation file.  I generally terminate all
other applications while installing new or updated software.  I
definitely would not use SeaMonkey's Add-ons Manager since Flash is not
an add-on.

Today, I again downloaded the installation file from the same URI.  This
time, I generated both MD5 and SHA1 comparisons between the newly
downloaded file and last week's archived file.  The two files are
identical.  This means you too should be able to download the file via
SeaMonkey and install it.

Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to

and set Flash not to set cookies.



I didn't see a place to set Flash to not set cookies. Saw a place to 
delete them.



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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Rob C.]

JD wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/21/10 6:03 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually 
WORKED???




I'm seeing a great amoung of blather in this thread that is quite
contrary to my experience.

First of all, when I go to, the
installation file downloads to whatever folder I specify.  It does not
install until I execute that file.


Not the way it works on Windows XP home edition. I was able to locate 
the install file and install it that way.



I actually did download Flash 10.1 (actually 10.1.82.76) from that URI
using SeaMonkey 2.0.6 exactly a week ago.  I then installed it for
SeaMonkey without any problems.  Finally, I archived the installation
file, which I do for ALL software and updates that I download and 
install.


Note that the installation itself does not involve SeaMonkey.  It only
involves executing the installation file.  I generally terminate all
other applications while installing new or updated software.  I
definitely would not use SeaMonkey's Add-ons Manager since Flash is not
an add-on.

Today, I again downloaded the installation file from the same URI.  This
time, I generated both MD5 and SHA1 comparisons between the newly
downloaded file and last week's archived file.  The two files are
identical.  This means you too should be able to download the file via
SeaMonkey and install it.

Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to
 


and set Flash not to set cookies.



I didn't see a place to set Flash to not set cookies. Saw a place to 
delete them.




Think you have to set the slider to allow 0 storage place.
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/22/10 5:29 PM, Rob C. wrote:
> JD wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 8/21/10 6:03 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed
 their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
 which won't install because it's not FireFox.

 I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
 but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

 They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
 file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we
 supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
 SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually 
 WORKED???

>>>
>>> I'm seeing a great amoung of blather in this thread that is quite
>>> contrary to my experience.
>>>
>>> First of all, when I go to, the
>>> installation file downloads to whatever folder I specify.  It does not
>>> install until I execute that file.
>>
>> Not the way it works on Windows XP home edition. I was able to locate 
>> the install file and install it that way.
>>
>>> I actually did download Flash 10.1 (actually 10.1.82.76) from that URI
>>> using SeaMonkey 2.0.6 exactly a week ago.  I then installed it for
>>> SeaMonkey without any problems.  Finally, I archived the installation
>>> file, which I do for ALL software and updates that I download and 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Note that the installation itself does not involve SeaMonkey.  It only
>>> involves executing the installation file.  I generally terminate all
>>> other applications while installing new or updated software.  I
>>> definitely would not use SeaMonkey's Add-ons Manager since Flash is not
>>> an add-on.
>>>
>>> Today, I again downloaded the installation file from the same URI.  This
>>> time, I generated both MD5 and SHA1 comparisons between the newly
>>> downloaded file and last week's archived file.  The two files are
>>> identical.  This means you too should be able to download the file via
>>> SeaMonkey and install it.
>>>
>>> Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>> and set Flash not to set cookies.
>>>
>>
>> I didn't see a place to set Flash to not set cookies. Saw a place to 
>> delete them.
>>
>>
> Think you have to set the slider to allow 0 storage place.

Yes.  It's on the "Global Storage Settings" and "Website Storage
Settings" panels.  Move the slider on each to the far left.

It's not intuitive, perhaps because Adobe generally wants Flash cookies
to be allowed.  However, if you allow no storage space for cookies, they
cannot be set.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/22/10 2:42 PM, Paul wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/21/10 6:03 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey?  They've changed 
>>> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey, 
>>> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>>>
>>> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs... 
>>> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>>>
>>> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer 
>>> file directly, but that link has disappeared.  How the *&^# are we 
>>> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the 
>>> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???
>>>
>>
>> I'm seeing a great amoung of blather in this thread that is quite
>> contrary to my experience.
>>
>> First of all, when I go to , the
>> installation file downloads to whatever folder I specify.  It does not
>> install until I execute that file.
>>
>> I actually did download Flash 10.1 (actually 10.1.82.76) from that URI
>> using SeaMonkey 2.0.6 exactly a week ago.  I then installed it for
>> SeaMonkey without any problems.  Finally, I archived the installation
>> file, which I do for ALL software and updates that I download and install.
>>
>> Note that the installation itself does not involve SeaMonkey.  It only
>> involves executing the installation file.  I generally terminate all
>> other applications while installing new or updated software.  I
>> definitely would not use SeaMonkey's Add-ons Manager since Flash is not
>> an add-on.
>>
>> Today, I again downloaded the installation file from the same URI.  This
>> time, I generated both MD5 and SHA1 comparisons between the newly
>> downloaded file and last week's archived file.  The two files are
>> identical.  This means you too should be able to download the file via
>> SeaMonkey and install it.
>>
>> Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to
>> 
>> and set Flash not to set cookies.
> 
> It won't download from Adobe to SM 1117. It does nothing.
> I already have 10.1 that I got from another web source
> so was just trying once more to see if things have changed.
> 

I'm not sure, but Flash 10.1 might not be compatible with SeaMonkey
1.1.17.

Go to your SeaMonkey menu bar and select [Edit > Preferences >
Browser > Downloads].  Please describe the settings for each checkbox
and radio button.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JeffM]

David E. Ross wrote:
>Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to
>
>and set Flash not to set cookies.
>
There's a good idea.
Use the tool provided by the scummy corporation that caused the
problem.
8-(

...and in Linux handling this is simple:
http://google.com/search?q=%22+Flash.cookies%22+%22+Symbolic.link%22+null&hl=all
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

JeffM wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Yes, Flash MIGHT set its own cookies.  However, you can go to

and set Flash not to set cookies.


There's a good idea.
Use the tool provided by the scummy corporation that caused the
problem.
8-(

...and in Linux handling this is simple:
http://google.com/search?q=%22+Flash.cookies%22+%22+Symbolic.link%22+null&hl=all


Windows users can install BetterPrivacy 1.48.2 to control Flash cookies. 
I've just installed it so I'm not sure how well it works. Maybe another 
Windows user can add something of interest?


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Ed Mullen]

W3BNR wrote:

After much thought NoOp wrote:

On 08/22/2010 09:54 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Flash keeps a listing on your comp of every flash site you
have ever visited. I have not found a way around that, yet.


And those sites can use the Flash "cookies" to re-create a regular
cookie that you have deleted.


Is this true in Linux and Mac or only MS versions of windows.



/home//.macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/

You can either delete them. Or delete/control them with:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/6623/





Perhaps searcing for *.sol files and deleting all under an 'Adobe'
directory?



The .sol file contains the options you set using the settings manager. 
DO NOT delete that file(s).


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Cruz, Jaime]

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.




Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't 
with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.



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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Cruz, Jaime]

JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe




THANK YOU!  How did you find that link?


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe





THANK YOU! How did you find that link?




You're welcome!

When the install failed from  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there 
was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is 
Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like 
the installer?


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> Glen wrote:
>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
>>> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
>>> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>>>
>>> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
>>> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>>>
>>> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
>>> file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
>>> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
>>> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???
>>>
>>
>> This is where I obtained the latest version from...
>>
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.
>>
>>
> 
> Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't 
> with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.

Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:
> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>> JD wrote:
>>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
 their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
 which won't install because it's not FireFox.

 I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
 but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

 They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
 file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
 supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
 SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
 WORKED???

>>>
>>> Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
>>> here:
>>>
>>> http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> THANK YOU! How did you find that link?
>>
>>
> 
> You're welcome!
> 
> When the install failed from  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
> there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there 
> was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is 
> Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like 
> the installer?
> 

And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can be
installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.  SeaMonkey
will then find it.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe





THANK YOU! How did you find that link?




You're welcome!

When the install failed from  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there
was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is
Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like
the installer?



And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can be
installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.  SeaMonkey
will then find it.



All I can tell you is it didn't work from the link. My bad, it seems as 
though SM2 had a problem with the Adobe Download Manager.


No big deal, I've figured out how to update Flashplayer and control it 
so I'm done.  8-)


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[question]

JD wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've
changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to
Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it
installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows
Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe






THANK YOU! How did you find that link?




You're welcome!

When the install failed from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there
was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is
Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like
the installer?



And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer? Flash can be
installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey
will then find it.



All I can tell you is it didn't work from the link. My bad, it seems as
though SM2 had a problem with the Adobe Download Manager.

No big deal, I've figured out how to update Flashplayer and control it
so I'm done. 8-)

My flash player's Audio quit working today . No audio from any site that 
uses Flash player 10

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Cruz, Jaime]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.




Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't
with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.


Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.




The terminology IS correct. The Adobe site wants to install an extension 
called the Adobe DLM.  If it works the way the ActiveX component on 
Explorer works, once the extension is installed, then IT downloads the 
plugin.  I don't want or need the bloody extension, I just want the 
plugin. I don't need an extension to install the plugin for me. I just 
want to download the damned plugin and install it the same way it's 
worked for over a decade.


I DO know what I'm talking about.

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[Cruz, Jaime]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe





THANK YOU! How did you find that link?




You're welcome!

When the install failed from  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there
was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is
Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like
the installer?



And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can be
installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.  SeaMonkey
will then find it.



Instead of making ignorant comments, why don't you go to the Adobe 
download site and see firsthand what we're talking about??


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can
be installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.
SeaMonkey will then find it.


Instead of making ignorant comments, why don't you go to the Adobe 
download site and see firsthand what we're talking about??


FWIW, my experience is similar to David's. I went to the Adobe website 
and downloaded the installer, which I then ran without SeaMonkey even 
open. It worked fine on the first attempt.


Of course, they do "recommend" that instead of saving the installer, you 
just click "run." I didn't do that, and it didn't hurt me none.


Duddn't sound too ign'ant t'me...

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/24/10 5:13 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> Glen wrote:
 Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>
> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>
> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
> file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???
>

 This is where I obtained the latest version from...

 http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

 I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.


>>>
>>> Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't
>>> with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.
>>
>> Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
>> doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.
>>
>>
> 
> The terminology IS correct. The Adobe site wants to install an extension 
> called the Adobe DLM.  If it works the way the ActiveX component on 
> Explorer works, once the extension is installed, then IT downloads the 
> plugin.  I don't want or need the bloody extension, I just want the 
> plugin. I don't need an extension to install the plugin for me. I just 
> want to download the damned plugin and install it the same way it's 
> worked for over a decade.
> 
> I DO know what I'm talking about.
> 

Well, I don't know where or why you are getting an extension.

Using SeaMonkey, I went to  and
downloaded install_flash_player.exe.  I then terminated SeaMonkey and
disabled my Internet connection.  When I double-clicked on
install_flash_player.exe, Flash 10.1 r82 was installed on my C-drive at
[c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash].  After re-enabling my Internet
connection, a test at  was
successful.

There was no extension and no Adobe DLM.

My configuration is (in part):

Windows XP Home Edition Version 5.1 (service pack 3)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/24/10 5:14 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:
>>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 JD wrote:
> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
>> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
>> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>>
>> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
>> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>>
>> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
>> file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
>> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
>> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
>> WORKED???
>>
>
> Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
> here:
>
> http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe
>
>
>

 THANK YOU! How did you find that link?


>>>
>>> You're welcome!
>>>
>>> When the install failed from  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>> there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there
>>> was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is
>>> Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like
>>> the installer?
>>>
>>
>> And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can be
>> installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.  SeaMonkey
>> will then find it.
>>
> 
> Instead of making ignorant comments, why don't you go to the Adobe 
> download site and see firsthand what we're talking about??
> 

As I indicated in an earlier reply in this thread, I updated Flash from
10.1 r53 to 10.1 r82 on 15 Aug (9 days ago).

To do that, I went to the Adobe download site, used SeaMonkey to
download install_flash_player.exe, terminated SeaMonkey, and installed
the new version.  There was NO extension, NO involvement by SeaMonkey
during the execution of install_flash_player.exe, and NO problem.

Then, on 22 Aug (only 2 days ago), I again used SeaMonkey to download
install_flash_player.exe from the Adobe download site.  Using both MD5
and SHA1 hashes, I determined that this newly downloaded file was
identical to the file I archived after my 15 Aug installation.

If you failed to read my prior reply that described this, then you are
the one who is ignorant.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/24/10 5:13 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.




Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't
with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.


Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.




The terminology IS correct. The Adobe site wants to install an extension
called the Adobe DLM.  If it works the way the ActiveX component on
Explorer works, once the extension is installed, then IT downloads the
plugin.  I don't want or need the bloody extension, I just want the
plugin. I don't need an extension to install the plugin for me. I just
want to download the damned plugin and install it the same way it's
worked for over a decade.

I DO know what I'm talking about.



Well, I don't know where or why you are getting an extension.

Using SeaMonkey, I went to  and
downloaded install_flash_player.exe.  I then terminated SeaMonkey and
disabled my Internet connection.  When I double-clicked on
install_flash_player.exe, Flash 10.1 r82 was installed on my C-drive at
[c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash].  After re-enabling my Internet
connection, a test at  was
successful.

There was no extension and no Adobe DLM.

My configuration is (in part):

Windows XP Home Edition Version 5.1 (service pack 3)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6



I don't know why, but my experience with the Adobe Flash download is not 
the same as yours. When I go to the web page you list above, I'm greeted 
with  Install Adobe Flash Player and a yellow box that says Agree and 
install now. When I click on that box, Adobe tries to install the Adobe 
DLM, http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.xpi and that 
fails because it says Incompatible Extension, Adobe DLM 1.6.2.90 could 
not be installed because it is not compatible with SM 2.0.6.


I'm also using XP with all the updates, and SM 2.0.6.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/25/10 11:18 AM, JD wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/24/10 5:13 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> Glen wrote:
>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
>>> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
>>> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>>>
>>> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
>>> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>>>
>>> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
>>> file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
>>> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
>>> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually 
>>> WORKED???
>>>
>>
>> This is where I obtained the latest version from...
>>
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.
>>
>>
>
> Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't
> with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.

 Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
 doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.


>>>
>>> The terminology IS correct. The Adobe site wants to install an extension
>>> called the Adobe DLM.  If it works the way the ActiveX component on
>>> Explorer works, once the extension is installed, then IT downloads the
>>> plugin.  I don't want or need the bloody extension, I just want the
>>> plugin. I don't need an extension to install the plugin for me. I just
>>> want to download the damned plugin and install it the same way it's
>>> worked for over a decade.
>>>
>>> I DO know what I'm talking about.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I don't know where or why you are getting an extension.
>>
>> Using SeaMonkey, I went to  and
>> downloaded install_flash_player.exe.  I then terminated SeaMonkey and
>> disabled my Internet connection.  When I double-clicked on
>> install_flash_player.exe, Flash 10.1 r82 was installed on my C-drive at
>> [c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash].  After re-enabling my Internet
>> connection, a test at  was
>> successful.
>>
>> There was no extension and no Adobe DLM.
>>
>> My configuration is (in part):
>>
>> Windows XP Home Edition Version 5.1 (service pack 3)
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
>> Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6
>>
> 
> I don't know why, but my experience with the Adobe Flash download is not 
> the same as yours. When I go to the web page you list above, I'm greeted 
> with  Install Adobe Flash Player and a yellow box that says Agree and 
> install now. When I click on that box, Adobe tries to install the Adobe 
> DLM, http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.xpi and that 
> fails because it says Incompatible Extension, Adobe DLM 1.6.2.90 could 
> not be installed because it is not compatible with SM 2.0.6.
> 
> I'm also using XP with all the updates, and SM 2.0.6.

When I go to  and click on the "Agree
and install now" button -- I tried it again just now -- I get a
file-selection window titled "Enter name of file to save to...".  In
that window, I navigate to my standard [D:\downloads\software] directory
to save the installer file.

What extensions do you already have installed?  Mine are:
Extensions (enabled: 7)
* Adblock Plus 1.2.2 (http://adblockplus.org/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.4 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Flashblock 1.3.16 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
* Live HTTP headers 0.16
* PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Show Password On Input 0.1.3
(https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/6143/)
* ShowIP 0.8.19 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)

I temporarily disable Flashblock to test the new installation of Flash.
 Disabling Flashblock before going to
 has no impact on downloading the
installer file.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/25/10 11:18 AM, JD wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/24/10 5:13 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.




Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't
with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.


Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.




The terminology IS correct. The Adobe site wants to install an extension
called the Adobe DLM.  If it works the way the ActiveX component on
Explorer works, once the extension is installed, then IT downloads the
plugin.  I don't want or need the bloody extension, I just want the
plugin. I don't need an extension to install the plugin for me. I just
want to download the damned plugin and install it the same way it's
worked for over a decade.

I DO know what I'm talking about.



Well, I don't know where or why you are getting an extension.

Using SeaMonkey, I went to   and
downloaded install_flash_player.exe.  I then terminated SeaMonkey and
disabled my Internet connection.  When I double-clicked on
install_flash_player.exe, Flash 10.1 r82 was installed on my C-drive at
[c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash].  After re-enabling my Internet
connection, a test at   was
successful.

There was no extension and no Adobe DLM.

My configuration is (in part):

Windows XP Home Edition Version 5.1 (service pack 3)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6



I don't know why, but my experience with the Adobe Flash download is not
the same as yours. When I go to the web page you list above, I'm greeted
with  Install Adobe Flash Player and a yellow box that says Agree and
install now. When I click on that box, Adobe tries to install the Adobe
DLM, http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.xpi and that
fails because it says Incompatible Extension, Adobe DLM 1.6.2.90 could
not be installed because it is not compatible with SM 2.0.6.

I'm also using XP with all the updates, and SM 2.0.6.


When I go to  and click on the "Agree
and install now" button -- I tried it again just now -- I get a
file-selection window titled "Enter name of file to save to...".  In
that window, I navigate to my standard [D:\downloads\software] directory
to save the installer file.

What extensions do you already have installed?  Mine are:
Extensions (enabled: 7)
* Adblock Plus 1.2.2 (http://adblockplus.org/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.4 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Flashblock 1.3.16 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
* Live HTTP headers 0.16
* PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Show Password On Input 0.1.3
(https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/6143/)
* ShowIP 0.8.19 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)

I temporarily disable Flashblock to test the new installation of Flash.
  Disabling Flashblock before going to
  has no impact on downloading the
installer file.



How do I make  a list of my extensions? I don't have an extension that 
would block the install of the Adobe Download Manager. The error is the 
extension is not compatible with SM 2.0.6. As I said a long time ago, I 
was able to find the .exe file and install Flash that way.


What's strange is you don't have the extension Adobe DLM and when you 
click on the install button you are given the option to save the file. I 
don't get that option. I like your way better but it's not offered to 
me. H.



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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

JD wrote:

What's strange is you don't have the extension Adobe DLM and when you 
click on the install button you are given the option to save the file. I 
don't get that option. I like your way better but it's not offered to 
me. H.


Check under Edit | Preferences | Helper applcations and see how you are 
handling exe files. I get prompted because that's what I trained SM to 
do; YMMV.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/25/10 4:01 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> JD wrote:
> 
>> What's strange is you don't have the extension Adobe DLM and when you 
>> click on the install button you are given the option to save the file. I 
>> don't get that option. I like your way better but it's not offered to 
>> me. H.
> 
> Check under Edit | Preferences | Helper applcations and see how you are 
> handling exe files. I get prompted because that's what I trained SM to 
> do; YMMV.
> 

I went to the SeaMonkey menu bar and selected [Edit > Preferences].  On
the Preferences window, I selected [Browser > Helper Applications].
Scrolling down the list of helpers to where "Content Type" is
"Application", I see "Action" is "Save File".

I have no idea how to add or delete entries in the list of helpers or
how to add actions to those available in the selection list for each
entry.

You might use the SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager to disable the Adobe DLM
extension.  (Don't delete the extension yet, in case you want to keep
it.)  Then try the Adobe downloads page again to see if you can download
Flash to install independently of SeaMonkey.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


On 8/25/10 4:01 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


JD wrote:


What's strange is you don't have the extension Adobe DLM and when
you click on the install button you are given the option to save
the file. I don't get that option. I like your way better but
it's not offered to me. H.


Check under Edit | Preferences | Helper applcations and see how you
are handling exe files. I get prompted because that's what I
trained SM to do; YMMV.


I went to the SeaMonkey menu bar and selected [Edit > Preferences].
On the Preferences window, I selected [Browser > Helper
Applications]. Scrolling down the list of helpers to where "Content
Type" is "Application", I see "Action" is "Save File".


Yes, sorry I missed a step.

What are the MIME type and extension? I have at least a dozen types that 
begin with "application/...," and most of them are not applications in 
the sense you intend. For example, there's a Flash video type listed as 
"application/flv." On my system, the MIME type for exe files is 
"application/x-msdownload."



I have no idea how to add or delete entries in the list of helpers or
how to add actions to those available in the selection list for each
entry.


In v.1, clicking an entry highlights it and enables the "Edit..." and 
"Remove" buttons. The "New Type..." button is always enabled.


I suppose the functionality is similar in v.2, which I don't have.

The hard part for me when listing new types from scratch has always been 
specifying the MIME type (I don't always know what it is). But SM saves 
me the trouble if I encounter a new type and it prompts me, saying "I 
don't know what to do with this..." If I have a policy I want to enforce 
permanently, I just check the box "Always perform this action..." and SM 
does the rest.


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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[JD]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/25/10 4:01 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

JD wrote:


What's strange is you don't have the extension Adobe DLM and when you
click on the install button you are given the option to save the file. I
don't get that option. I like your way better but it's not offered to
me. H.


Check under Edit | Preferences | Helper applcations and see how you are
handling exe files. I get prompted because that's what I trained SM to
do; YMMV.



I went to the SeaMonkey menu bar and selected [Edit>  Preferences].  On
the Preferences window, I selected [Browser>  Helper Applications].
Scrolling down the list of helpers to where "Content Type" is
"Application", I see "Action" is "Save File".

I have no idea how to add or delete entries in the list of helpers or
how to add actions to those available in the selection list for each
entry.

You might use the SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager to disable the Adobe DLM
extension.  (Don't delete the extension yet, in case you want to keep
it.)  Then try the Adobe downloads page again to see if you can download
Flash to install independently of SeaMonkey.



Oh, I can download Flash independent of SM, but not from the link posted 
in this thread. I've looked at my SM preferences and I can't find one 
that is causing the link to invoke the install of the  Adobe DLM. I 
thought I made it clear but I will say it again, the install of  the 
Adobe DLM fails and that is where the Flash install fails. I found the 
.exe file for Flash, I'm updated and I've spent more time on this minor 
problem than it took to find a work around.


I was curious as to why some of us get a different result when we all 
click on the same link but as I said, Flash is updated and it looks like 
my curiosity on this subject will not be satisfied. No big deal.


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