subject:"Videos Won't Play"


David E. Ross wrote:


On 4/24/2016 7:07 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


If I want to enable HTML5 media without installing PrefBar, do you know
a way?



There is nothing under [Edit > Preferences] to control HTML5 media.  You
will have to request about:config.  The preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled.  "True" enables it; "false" disables it.


Already true by default, no help there. Thanks anyway.

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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-24 Thread Jim


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:



I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?

It worked OK for me.  Kind of strange, the video started up, went blank, 
then a few seconds later, it started up again and played OK.  Running 
both AdBlock Plus and NoScripts.

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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-24 Thread David E. Ross

On 4/24/2016 7:07 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> On 4/24/2016 11:02 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Example:
>>> 
>>>
>>> I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.
>>>
>>> Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.
>>>
>>> Noncompliant coding, I assume?
>>>
>> Windows 7 SP1
>> SeaMonkey/2.40
>> Flash 21.0 r0(213)
>>
>> I was able to play the video with the following changes to my usual
>> configuration.  No, I do not know if all of these changes were
>> necessary; I merely did all of them before trying the link.
>>
>> *  Spoof (sort of) Firefox:
>>  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.40
>>  =>
>>  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.40, NOT Firefox/45.0
>>
>> *Images only from the originating server => All images
>>
>> *FlashBlock enabled > FlashBlock disabled
>>
>> *AdBlock Plus enabled > AdBlock Plus disabled
>>
>> *HTML5 media disabled > HTML5 media enabled
>>
>> *Secret Agent enabled > Secret Agent disabled
>>
>> *Popups disabled > Popups enabled
>>
>> Fortunately, I tailored PrefBar to have checkboxes and menu lists to
>> make all of these changes.  Thus, I was able to do them quickly and then
>> to reverse them.
> 
> Inchsting...
> 
> I'm already advertising Firefox compatibility, so inserting the word 
> "NOT" shouldn't help, right?
> 
> Don't have Flashblock.
> 
> Tried disabling ABP everywhere, no joy.
> 
> Don't have Secret Agent.
> 
> IE doesn't play video in a popup, so that shouldn't matter, should it?
> 
> If I want to enable HTML5 media without installing PrefBar, do you know 
> a way?
> 

There is nothing under [Edit > Preferences] to control HTML5 media.  You
will have to request about:config.  The preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled.  "True" enables it; "false" disables it.

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Re: ABC News videos won't play


David E. Ross wrote:


On 4/24/2016 11:02 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:


I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?


Windows 7 SP1
SeaMonkey/2.40
Flash 21.0 r0(213)

I was able to play the video with the following changes to my usual
configuration.  No, I do not know if all of these changes were
necessary; I merely did all of them before trying the link.

*  Spoof (sort of) Firefox:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.40
=>
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.40, NOT Firefox/45.0

*   Images only from the originating server => All images

*   FlashBlock enabled > FlashBlock disabled

*   AdBlock Plus enabled > AdBlock Plus disabled

*   HTML5 media disabled > HTML5 media enabled

*   Secret Agent enabled > Secret Agent disabled

*   Popups disabled > Popups enabled

Fortunately, I tailored PrefBar to have checkboxes and menu lists to
make all of these changes.  Thus, I was able to do them quickly and then
to reverse them.


Inchsting...

I'm already advertising Firefox compatibility, so inserting the word 
"NOT" shouldn't help, right?


Don't have Flashblock.

Tried disabling ABP everywhere, no joy.

Don't have Secret Agent.

IE doesn't play video in a popup, so that shouldn't matter, should it?

If I want to enable HTML5 media without installing PrefBar, do you know 
a way?


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Re: ABC News videos won't play


Arnie Goetchius wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:



I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?


Works for me. SM 2.40 Win 7 64bit. Also remember doing a recent Flash update


I have Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213, which AFAIK is the latest version 
(updated Friday, April 8). Also have Shockwave for Director 12.2.4.194, 
which AFAIK is the latest version (updated Friday, February 19).


Tried disabling AdBlock Plus everywhere, no joy.

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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-24 Thread chicagofan


chicagofan wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:
 



I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?



For me it just goes off to ping.chartbeat.net ...  and never 
arrives.   ;)However, the video image never showed up either. I 
clicked on the  blank space where I think the video should be 
[sometimes that works].   I'm using SM 2.26.1.

bj


P.S. -  Forgot to say my Flash has been updated, but I suspect Ad 
Blocker Plus may be part of the problem here for me.

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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-24 Thread David E. Ross

On 4/24/2016 11:02 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Example:
> 
> 
> I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.
> 
> Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.
> 
> Noncompliant coding, I assume?
> 
Windows 7 SP1
SeaMonkey/2.40
Flash 21.0 r0(213)

I was able to play the video with the following changes to my usual
configuration.  No, I do not know if all of these changes were
necessary; I merely did all of them before trying the link.

*  Spoof (sort of) Firefox:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.40
=>
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.40, NOT Firefox/45.0

*   Images only from the originating server => All images

*   FlashBlock enabled > FlashBlock disabled

*   AdBlock Plus enabled > AdBlock Plus disabled

*   HTML5 media disabled > HTML5 media enabled

*   Secret Agent enabled > Secret Agent disabled

*   Popups disabled > Popups enabled

Fortunately, I tailored PrefBar to have checkboxes and menu lists to
make all of these changes.  Thus, I was able to do them quickly and then
to reverse them.

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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-24 Thread Arnie Goetchius

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Example:
> 
> 
> 
> I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.
> 
> Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.
> 
> Noncompliant coding, I assume?
> 
Works for me. SM 2.40 Win 7 64bit. Also remember doing a recent Flash update
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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-24 Thread Paul in Houston, TX


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:


I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?


ABCnews has never worked correctly for me on SM so I never go there any more.
Just tried the url above on IE 9 and it locked up the laptop for about 45 
seconds
and downloaded a bunch of stuff to TEMP that immediately disappeared.
Tried it on FF27 and nothing would load.
IMO, typical ABC.

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Re: ABC News videos won't play

2016-04-24 Thread chicagofan


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:
 



I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?



For me it just goes off to ping.chartbeat.net ...  and never arrives.   
;)However, the video image never showed up either. I clicked on the  
blank space where I think the video should be [sometimes that works].   
I'm using SM 2.26.1.

bj
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ABC News videos won't play


Example:


I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?

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Re: USAToday videos won't play? (SOLVED)

2016-02-16 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Candidate builds for 2.40 are up on archive.mozilla.org. They are as good as 
the 
real deal just not uploaded to the right location and obviously missing the 
Data 
Manager fixes. Even the unsigned Windows build is ok because it's identical to 
the 
signed one. No signing for Seamonkey right now:)

Tree is on 2.41 so I no longer build 2.40 but i didn't see any big changes 
between 
them. Gave my private builds to two friends who are happy with it but they do 
not 
use the Data or Cookie Manager

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:24:56 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

>>Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>
>>> I am on 2.42 already. I didn't fix anything in the menu but
>>> everything under Tools -> Cookie Manager works for me. There also
>>> weren't any fixes in the last months in this component. Do you see
>>> any errors in the Error Console when you try to change cookie
>>> settings using the menu?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>I'm on 2.39, but the behavior has been consistent for over a year: I go 
>>to a site, I want to change the cookie policy for that site, so I make a 
>>selection from the Tools | Cookie Manager menu, and nothing happens. No 
>>error message, no noise, no complaint of any kind; SM simply ignores the 
>>selection and continues as before with the previous selection.
>>
>>The only way around it is to go into the chrome version of the Cookie 
>>Manager and change the policy there, or else tell SM to forget about 
>>this domain (which is an unnecessarily cumbersome and counterintuitive 
>>process, BTW). Having done that, I can go to the page in question and 
>>set a new policy from the menu (SM will honor a new setting only if 
>>there is no old setting).
>>
>>FWIW, I did find a solution to the USAToday site: Tell SM to forget the 
>>cookie policy for usatoday.com, allowing it to revert to my default 
>>policy (first-party session cookies only), whereupon the site set some 
>>20 cookies and started playing the videos. I guess the other people who 
>>could play them had more lenient cookie policies, and the one who 
>>couldn't was also blocking cookies.
>>
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>>


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Re: USAToday videos won't play? (SOLVED)

2016-02-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


I am on 2.42 already. I didn't fix anything in the menu but
everything under Tools -> Cookie Manager works for me. There also
weren't any fixes in the last months in this component. Do you see
any errors in the Error Console when you try to change cookie
settings using the menu?


No.

I'm on 2.39, but the behavior has been consistent for over a year: I go 
to a site, I want to change the cookie policy for that site, so I make a 
selection from the Tools | Cookie Manager menu, and nothing happens. No 
error message, no noise, no complaint of any kind; SM simply ignores the 
selection and continues as before with the previous selection.


The only way around it is to go into the chrome version of the Cookie 
Manager and change the policy there, or else tell SM to forget about 
this domain (which is an unnecessarily cumbersome and counterintuitive 
process, BTW). Having done that, I can go to the page in question and 
set a new policy from the menu (SM will honor a new setting only if 
there is no old setting).


FWIW, I did find a solution to the USAToday site: Tell SM to forget the 
cookie policy for usatoday.com, allowing it to revert to my default 
policy (first-party session cookies only), whereupon the site set some 
20 cookies and started playing the videos. I guess the other people who 
could play them had more lenient cookie policies, and the one who 
couldn't was also blocking cookies.


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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

I am on 2.42 already. I didn't fix anything in the menu but everything under 
Tools 
-> Cookie Manager works for me. There also weren't any fixes in the last months 
in 
this component. Do you see any errors in the Error Console when you try to 
change 
cookie settings using the menu?

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:39:31 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

>>Does the fix also include the UI under Tools | Cookie Manager, where the 
>>user used to be able to change the policy for the current domain on the 
>>fly? At present, selecting anything except "Manage Stored Cookies" has 
>>no effect.

 Regards
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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:47:04 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


If only the devs would finally fix the Cookie Manager, which has been
broken for a year or more. It's really frustrating to try to change the
pref for a domain on the fly (Tools | Cookie Manager | )
and have nothing happen. Where do I go to upvote that bug?



It's [been] fixed already for some time. Check Bug 1188348:
. All which is
needs is a (hopefully) final review and checkin of the source code.
This patch needed string changes so it is unlikely that it will
appear before Seamonkey 2.44. There is a how to in it so you can
change your omni.ja und put the fixes in yourself. It's compatible
with Seamonkey 2.39+

I was unable to test idn domains and some weird permissions might not
work. If you patch it and find something let me know and I will fix
it if I can.


Thanks.

Does the fix also include the UI under Tools | Cookie Manager, where the 
user used to be able to change the policy for the current domain on the 
fly? At present, selecting anything except "Manage Stored Cookies" has 
no effect.


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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:47:04 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

>>If only the devs would finally fix the Cookie Manager, which has been 
>>broken for a year or more. It's really frustrating to try to change the 
>>pref for a domain on the fly (Tools | Cookie Manager | ) 
>>and have nothing happen. Where do I go to upvote that bug?
>>

It's fixed already for some time. Check Bug 1188348: 
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188348 . All which is needs is a 
(hopefully) final review and checkin of the source code. This patch needed 
string 
changes so it is unlikely that it will appear before Seamonkey 2.44. There is a 
how to in it so you can change your omni.ja und put the fixes in yourself. It's 
compatible with Seamonkey 2.39+ 

I was unable to test idn domains and some weird permissions might not work. If 
you 
patch it and find something let me know and I will fix it if I can.

 Regards
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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little


Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably
because the "Play"
button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to a script that
doesn't work.

Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?


If it's of any consolation, the vids don't work for me either.
I tried using a bare SM, still nothing.


Maybe a network issue? Seams to work just fine here. This is both in 
Windows and on Ubuntu OS..


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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel


On 16/02/2016 12:10 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably
because the "Play" button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to
a script that doesn't work.

Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?


On my Win7 SM, I clicked on two of the videos and both worked.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-15 Thread Paul in Houston, TX


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably because the 
"Play"
button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to a script that doesn't 
work.

Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?


If it's of any consolation, the vids don't work for me either.
I tried using a bare SM, still nothing.
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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


David E. Ross wrote:


This is what I meant by "Cookies allowed only from the requested
domain".  On the Cookies pane of the Preferences window, this is the
radio button for "Allow cookies for the originated website only (no
third-party cookies)".


Yes, we both understand what "first-party cookies" means.


To enable Flash, go to [Tools > Add-ons Manager] on the SeaMonkey
menu bar, scroll down to Flash, and select Always Activate from the
selection list at the right.

To enable HTML5 Media, request about:config. Set
media.autoplay.enabled to True.


Both are already set as you describe; the media.autoplay.enabled key is 
True by default.


If only the devs would finally fix the Cookie Manager, which has been 
broken for a year or more. It's really frustrating to try to change the 
pref for a domain on the fly (Tools | Cookie Manager | ) 
and have nothing happen. Where do I go to upvote that bug?


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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-15 Thread David E. Ross

On 2/15/2016 10:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/15/2016 5:10 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>> Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.
>>>
>>> On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.
>>>
>>> CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably
>>> because the "Play" button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to
>>> a script that doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Works fine on Internet Exploiter.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?
>>>
>>
>> It is indeed likely your settings.  Here is my somewhat restricted
>> configuration:
>>
>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1 (x64)
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.39
>> "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
>> Popups blocked
>> AdBlock Plus and Secret Agent extensions both enabled
>> Images from all domains enabled
>> Cookies allowed only from the requested domain
>>
>> I am able to play the various videos with either Flash enabled or HTML5
>> Media enabled.
> 
> OK, my corresponding info:
> 
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 
> SeaMonkey/2.39
> 
> "Advertise Firefox compatibility" enabled
> 
> Unrequested popups blocked
> 
> AdBlock Plus normally enabled, but disabled for testing purposes
> 
> Load all images
> 
> First-party session cookies only (Edit | Preferences | Privacy & 
> Security | Cookies); Block Cookies from This Website (Tools | Cookie 
> Manager). As you know, the cookie manager is broken, so I can't change 
> the setting, and usatoday.com is not specifically listed at 
> chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul or 
> chrome://communicator/content/permissions/permissionsManager.xul. 
> Clearing cache and cookies and reloading does not help.

This is what I meant by "Cookies allowed only from the requested
domain".  On the Cookies pane of the Preferences window, this is the
radio button for "Allow cookies for the originated website only (no
third-party cookies)".

To manage individual cookies, I use the PrefBar extension, having
imported into that extension the Permissions Menu menulist from
.  In my
installation, I renamed this menulist as "Managers".

> Shockwave Flash 20.0.0.306 and Shockwave for Director 12.2.3.183 both 
> installed, both show as current. Can't find any setting to enable Flash 
> vs. HTML5 vs. both.

I have the same version of Flash but do not have Shockwave.

To enable Flash, go to [Tools > Add-ons Manager] on the SeaMonkey menu
bar, scroll down to Flash, and select Always Activate from the selection
list at the right.

To enable HTML5 Media, request about:config.  Set media.autoplay.enabled
to True.

> When I click the "Play" button, nothing happens. No activity in the 
> status bar, no spinner, no throbber, nothing. Any ideas?
> 

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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/15/2016 5:10 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably
because the "Play" button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to
a script that doesn't work.

Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?



It is indeed likely your settings.  Here is my somewhat restricted
configuration:

Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.39
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
Popups blocked
AdBlock Plus and Secret Agent extensions both enabled
Images from all domains enabled
Cookies allowed only from the requested domain

I am able to play the various videos with either Flash enabled or HTML5
Media enabled.


OK, my corresponding info:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 
SeaMonkey/2.39


"Advertise Firefox compatibility" enabled

Unrequested popups blocked

AdBlock Plus normally enabled, but disabled for testing purposes

Load all images

First-party session cookies only (Edit | Preferences | Privacy & 
Security | Cookies); Block Cookies from This Website (Tools | Cookie 
Manager). As you know, the cookie manager is broken, so I can't change 
the setting, and usatoday.com is not specifically listed at 
chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul or 
chrome://communicator/content/permissions/permissionsManager.xul. 
Clearing cache and cookies and reloading does not help.


Shockwave Flash 20.0.0.306 and Shockwave for Director 12.2.3.183 both 
installed, both show as current. Can't find any setting to enable Flash 
vs. HTML5 vs. both.


When I click the "Play" button, nothing happens. No activity in the 
status bar, no spinner, no throbber, nothing. Any ideas?


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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-15 Thread David E. Ross

On 2/15/2016 5:10 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> 
> 
> Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.
> 
> On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.
> 
> CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably 
> because the "Play" button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to 
> a script that doesn't work.
> 
> Works fine on Internet Exploiter.
> 
> Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?
> 

It is indeed likely your settings.  Here is my somewhat restricted
configuration:

Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.39
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
Popups blocked
AdBlock Plus and Secret Agent extensions both enabled
Images from all domains enabled
Cookies allowed only from the requested domain

I am able to play the various videos with either Flash enabled or HTML5
Media enabled.

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Re: USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-15 Thread Ray_Net


Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 15/02/2016 14:10:



Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably 
because the "Play" button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link 
to a script that doesn't work.


Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?

The first one 
http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/80376486/cartoons-of-justice-scalia/ 
is playing perfectly in my SM-exploiter :-)
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38

Build identifier: 20150923195647
above windows7 pro SP1 32 bits
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USAToday videos won't play?

2016-02-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher




Pick a vid, any vid, and try to play it.

On my machine, the links work but the videos don't.

CTRL-I, "Media" tab, lists no videos, only PNG images -- presumably 
because the "Play" button isn't actually a "Play" button, it's a link to 
a script that doesn't work.


Works fine on Internet Exploiter.

Any ideas? Bad code or my settings?

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread David E. Ross

On 12/10/2015 10:40 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 12/10/2015 3:09 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the
>>> latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.39
>>
>> With HTML5 Media disabled, the first link played with Flash 20.0 r0(235)
>> (20.0.0 .235).  Since I have Flashblock 1.3.21 enabled, I had to
>> manually start the video by selecting the image.  I suspect that Flash
>> was not involved since the Flashbock icons ("f" or a right-pointing
>> triangle) never appeared, and the pull-down context menu from a right
>> click over the playing video did not show an entry for "About Adobe
>> Flash Player".
>>
>> With HTML5 media enabled, the first link played immediately upon the
>> launch of the SeaMonkey window.
>>
>> The second link failed with the following message, both with and without
>> HTML5 Media enabled:
>>> Sorry, this content isn't available right now
>>> The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to 
>>> an audience you're not in.
>>> Go back to the previous page · Go to News Feed · Visit our Help Center
>>
> How do you enable HTML 5 media?
> 

Request about:config and set media.autoplay.enabled to true.

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Tom Pamin


Tom Pamin wrote:

Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the
latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?

https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2


https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2


For whatever reason, the videos are now playing on all my PC's.
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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Ray_Net


Tom Pamin wrote on 10/12/2015 12:09:
Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the 
latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?


https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2 



https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2 

WFM: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread WaltS48


On 12/10/2015 06:09 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the
latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?

https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2




Works for me, and now I'm hungry.


https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2



Tells me content not available right now.

Using SeaMonkey 2.39.

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Tom Pamin


David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/10/2015 3:09 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the
latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?

https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2

https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.39

With HTML5 Media disabled, the first link played with Flash 20.0 r0(235)
(20.0.0 .235).  Since I have Flashblock 1.3.21 enabled, I had to
manually start the video by selecting the image.  I suspect that Flash
was not involved since the Flashbock icons ("f" or a right-pointing
triangle) never appeared, and the pull-down context menu from a right
click over the playing video did not show an entry for "About Adobe
Flash Player".

With HTML5 media enabled, the first link played immediately upon the
launch of the SeaMonkey window.

The second link failed with the following message, both with and without
HTML5 Media enabled:

Sorry, this content isn't available right now
The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an 
audience you're not in.
Go back to the previous page · Go to News Feed · Visit our Help Center



How do you enable HTML 5 media?
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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread David E. Ross

On 12/10/2015 3:09 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the 
> latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.39

With HTML5 Media disabled, the first link played with Flash 20.0 r0(235)
(20.0.0 .235).  Since I have Flashblock 1.3.21 enabled, I had to
manually start the video by selecting the image.  I suspect that Flash
was not involved since the Flashbock icons ("f" or a right-pointing
triangle) never appeared, and the pull-down context menu from a right
click over the playing video did not show an entry for "About Adobe
Flash Player".

With HTML5 media enabled, the first link played immediately upon the
launch of the SeaMonkey window.

The second link failed with the following message, both with and without
HTML5 Media enabled:
> Sorry, this content isn't available right now
> The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an 
> audience you're not in.
> Go back to the previous page · Go to News Feed · Visit our Help Center

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Arnie Goetchius

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 12/10/2015 3:09 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
>> Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the 
>> latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2
>>
> 
> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.39
> 
> With HTML5 Media disabled, the first link played with Flash 20.0 r0(235)
> (20.0.0 .235).  Since I have Flashblock 1.3.21 enabled, I had to
> manually start the video by selecting the image.  I suspect that Flash
> was not involved since the Flashbock icons ("f" or a right-pointing
> triangle) never appeared, and the pull-down context menu from a right
> click over the playing video did not show an entry for "About Adobe
> Flash Player".
> 
> With HTML5 media enabled, the first link played immediately upon the
> launch of the SeaMonkey window.
> 
> The second link failed with the following message, both with and without
> HTML5 Media enabled:
>> Sorry, this content isn't available right now
>> The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to 
>> an audience you're not in.
>> Go back to the previous page · Go to News Feed · Visit our Help Center
> 
I get them both but you have to be logged into Facebook to see them
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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Tom Pamin


Tom Pamin wrote:

Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the
latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?

https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2


https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2

Not working on all 3 of my PC's. SM 2.39 and Win7. Anything I can check 
in about:config? All 3 PC's are set up the same.

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Tom Pamin wrote:


Lately videos like this won't play on Facebook. I've updated to the
latest Flash Player. The videos do play on IE. How do I fix this?

https://www.facebook.com/tiphero/videos/vb.225525523760/10154390674843761/?type=2


https://www.facebook.com/207215726067454/videos/vb.207215726067454/798947573560930/?type=2


WFM on SM 2.39, Flash 19.0.0.245.

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Jonathan N. Little


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:






WFM on SM 2.39, Flash 19.0.0.245.



Ditto:  SM 2.39, Flash 20.0.0.235

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Jonathan N. Little wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


WFM on SM 2.39, Flash 19.0.0.245.


Ditto:  SM 2.39, Flash 20.0.0.235


Thanks for the heads-up. Plugin check reports v. 19 as up to date.

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Re: Facebook Videos Won't Play

2015-12-10 Thread Arnie Goetchius

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
> 
> 
>>>
>> WFM on SM 2.39, Flash 19.0.0.245.
>>
> 
> Ditto:  SM 2.39, Flash 20.0.0.235
> 
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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-04 Thread Desiree


On 2/3/2015 5:54 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Desiree wrote:

On 2/2/2015 4:45 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video 


Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


Looks like that was it - disabled Adblock Plus and it's working. Thanks.


Flash is blocked by Mozilla as even 296 has a zero day vulnerability.  I
don't know how you are getting them to play.  For me, Sea Monkey reports
Flash 296 blocked.  Fx can't even check plugins currently as Mozilla
apparently messed up the block.  At least SeaMonkey can do a plugin
check currently.  Even if Flash works for you it should be disabled
until Adobe issues a new update.  The zero day exploit is being ACTIVELY
seen on Fx, SeaMonkey and IE.  Disable Flash on all browsers until Adobe
issues a patch this week.


ANOTHER one!?

I'm making no special effort to get them to play. My SeaMonkey has not
tried to block Flash, and I haven't overruled it. I do have 296, and
when I updated just now, that's what Adobe installed.

So the question is, what have YOU done that your SM is blocking Flash?

For several days now, plugin check has not worked at all on Fx various 
versions (or Pale Moon) and two different Oses.  Plugin check does work 
on Sea Monkey and Flash 296 is bright red and indicates dangerous. 
Maybe it is not yet FORMALLY blocked as I know it is not yet on the 
Block List but when I see a plugin that is notorious for vulnerabilities 
showing bright red warning at Mozilla plugin page, while my other 
plugins are green with nice checkmarks by them, I'm not going to even 
try to use Flash.  Red means STOP.  The warning is NOT yellow.  Yellow 
would indicate use at your own risk. Red means DANGEROUS Do NOT use 
and I interpreted it to mean it was blocked.  It should be blocked if 
the warning is red.  I have all pugins set to ASK and I have no 
intention of saying yes to Flash at any website until Adobe updates it. 
 (I have disabled Flash in IE 10 and 11).

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-04 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Desiree wrote:

On 2/3/2015 5:54 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Desiree wrote:

On 2/2/2015 4:45 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video 


Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


Looks like that was it - disabled Adblock Plus and it's working.
Thanks.


Flash is blocked by Mozilla as even 296 has a zero day vulnerability.  I
don't know how you are getting them to play.  For me, Sea Monkey reports
Flash 296 blocked.  Fx can't even check plugins currently as Mozilla
apparently messed up the block.  At least SeaMonkey can do a plugin
check currently.  Even if Flash works for you it should be disabled
until Adobe issues a new update.  The zero day exploit is being ACTIVELY
seen on Fx, SeaMonkey and IE.  Disable Flash on all browsers until Adobe
issues a patch this week.


ANOTHER one!?

I'm making no special effort to get them to play. My SeaMonkey has not
tried to block Flash, and I haven't overruled it. I do have 296, and
when I updated just now, that's what Adobe installed.

So the question is, what have YOU done that your SM is blocking Flash?


For several days now, plugin check has not worked at all on Fx various
versions (or Pale Moon) and two different Oses.  Plugin check does work
on Sea Monkey and Flash 296 is bright red and indicates dangerous. Maybe
it is not yet FORMALLY blocked as I know it is not yet on the Block List
but when I see a plugin that is notorious for vulnerabilities showing
bright red warning at Mozilla plugin page, while my other plugins are
green with nice checkmarks by them, I'm not going to even try to use
Flash.  Red means STOP.  The warning is NOT yellow.  Yellow would
indicate use at your own risk. Red means DANGEROUS Do NOT use and I
interpreted it to mean it was blocked.  It should be blocked if the
warning is red.  I have all pugins set to ASK and I have no intention of
saying yes to Flash at any website until Adobe updates it.  (I have
disabled Flash in IE 10 and 11).


That's all well and good, and probably good advice. But it's not what 
you said:



Flash is blocked by Mozilla as even 296 has a zero day
vulnerability.


As far as I can tell, /Mozilla/ is not blocking Flash, /you/ are. So 
none of your readers should have any expectation that /Mozilla/ will 
protect them in this situation. Mozilla will only warn the user and 
leave it to the user's discretion and ingenuity to block Flash.


Of course, that could change. But at the moment, Mozilla is taking no 
blocking action as it does with earlier versions of Flash.

https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p828

The red tile you see at the plugins check page just means the plugin is 
outdated. Which is a weird thing for Mozilla to say since 16.0.0.296 is 
the very latest version from Adobe.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-03 Thread Desiree


On 2/2/2015 4:45 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video 


Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


Looks like that was it - disabled Adblock Plus and it's working. Thanks.

Flash is blocked by Mozilla as even 296 has a zero day vulnerability.  I 
don't know how you are getting them to play.  For me, Sea Monkey reports 
Flash 296 blocked.  Fx can't even check plugins currently as Mozilla 
apparently messed up the block.  At least SeaMonkey can do a plugin 
check currently.  Even if Flash works for you it should be disabled 
until Adobe issues a new update.  The zero day exploit is being ACTIVELY 
seen on Fx, SeaMonkey and IE.  Disable Flash on all browsers until Adobe 
issues a patch this week.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Desiree wrote:

On 2/2/2015 4:45 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video 


Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


Looks like that was it - disabled Adblock Plus and it's working. Thanks.


Flash is blocked by Mozilla as even 296 has a zero day vulnerability.  I
don't know how you are getting them to play.  For me, Sea Monkey reports
Flash 296 blocked.  Fx can't even check plugins currently as Mozilla
apparently messed up the block.  At least SeaMonkey can do a plugin
check currently.  Even if Flash works for you it should be disabled
until Adobe issues a new update.  The zero day exploit is being ACTIVELY
seen on Fx, SeaMonkey and IE.  Disable Flash on all browsers until Adobe
issues a patch this week.


ANOTHER one!?

I'm making no special effort to get them to play. My SeaMonkey has not 
tried to block Flash, and I haven't overruled it. I do have 296, and 
when I updated just now, that's what Adobe installed.


So the question is, what have YOU done that your SM is blocking Flash?

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-03 Thread WaltS48

On 02/03/2015 10:54 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Desiree wrote:

On 2/2/2015 4:45 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video

Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.

Looks like that was it - disabled Adblock Plus and it's working. Thanks.

Flash is blocked by Mozilla as even 296 has a zero day vulnerability. I
don't know how you are getting them to play. For me, Sea Monkey reports
Flash 296 blocked. Fx can't even check plugins currently as Mozilla
apparently messed up the block. At least SeaMonkey can do a plugin
check currently. Even if Flash works for you it should be disabled
until Adobe issues a new update. The zero day exploit is being ACTIVELY
seen on Fx, SeaMonkey and IE. Disable Flash on all browsers until Adobe
issues a patch this week.

ANOTHER one!?

I'm making no special effort to get them to play. My SeaMonkey has not
tried to block Flash, and I haven't overruled it. I do have 296, and
when I updated just now, that's what Adobe installed.

So the question is, what have YOU done that your SM is blocking Flash?

I haven't seen 16.0.0.296 listed on the block list yet.

Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for Firefox -
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/

That might change soon.

1128534 – (CVE-2015-0313) Blocklist flash 16.0.0.296 and earlier versions - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1128534

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Videos Won't Play

2015-02-02 Thread Tom Pamin

These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens 
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?

http://www.nbc-2.com/video
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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video 


Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP 
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-02 Thread WaltS48


Tom Pamin wrote:

These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video



Play just fine here with Flash activated and allowing cookies.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2015-02-02 Thread Tom Pamin


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video 


Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


Looks like that was it - disabled Adblock Plus and it's working. Thanks.
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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-15 Thread Desiree


On 5/8/2014 2:35 AM, Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

snip
So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on whether
the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for Helpers
both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that video/mp4
points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
video controls
source src= type=video/mp4
Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
/video

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle HTML5 
sites.

SeaMonkey plays HTML5 just fine but NOT in full screen due to a long 
standing bug that is not going to be fixed.  I can see the video just 
fine on SM 2.26 on Win 8 Pro as long as I don't expand it to full 
screen.  I can't see any video there though on Fx 24.5 ESR as the video 
never loads.  It loads instantly on SM.  Only flash video plays full 
screen on SM with no problems.  The devs simply don't have the time to 
fix the HTML5 full screen bug.  This bug is one reason Fx is my default 
browser instead of SM.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-12 Thread NoOp

On 05/10/2014 04:28 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.

Looks like you need a third-party decoder to play it.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Supported_media_formats#MP4_H.264_%28AAC_or_MP3%29

[799318 – [meta] Support H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback on desktop
Firefox](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318)

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561

For linux:

I got the video to play in Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04. I've
not been able to get SeaMonkey 26 to play in either.

When I rebooted to 14.04, Firefox couldn't play the video in window. I
added just about every codec that I could think of... Finally figured it
out for the FF part: my 12.04 has gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (which includes
the h.264 decoder) installed, my 14.04 didn't.

Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't provide gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in any of the
Trusty/14.04 repositories. So, I added the mc3man ppa:
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/get-firefox-and-phonon-gstreamer-to.html
and as soon as I did, Firefox played the video w/o issue. Now I just
have to figure out why SeaMonkey 26 (32bit and 64bit) doesn't for me.

Note: all versions of Firefox and SeaMonkey are the most current
released Mozilla builds - not distro builds.
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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-12 Thread WaltS48


On 05/12/2014 07:28 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 05/10/2014 04:28 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



Looks like you need a third-party decoder to play it.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Supported_media_formats#MP4_H.264_%28AAC_or_MP3%29

[799318 – [meta] Support H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback on desktop
Firefox](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318)

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561




For linux:

I got the video to play in Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04. I've
not been able to get SeaMonkey 26 to play in either.

When I rebooted to 14.04, Firefox couldn't play the video in window. I
added just about every codec that I could think of... Finally figured it
out for the FF part: my 12.04 has gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (which includes
the h.264 decoder) installed, my 14.04 didn't.

Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't provide gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in any of the
Trusty/14.04 repositories. So, I added the mc3man ppa:
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/get-firefox-and-phonon-gstreamer-to.html
and as soon as I did, Firefox played the video w/o issue. Now I just
have to figure out why SeaMonkey 26 (32bit and 64bit) doesn't for me.

Note: all versions of Firefox and SeaMonkey are the most current
released Mozilla builds - not distro builds.




My SeaMonkey is an openSUSE distro build.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-12 Thread NoOp

On 05/12/2014 04:46 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
 On 05/12/2014 07:28 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 05/10/2014 04:28 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
 On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
 We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
 get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
 found.

 If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
 Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
 least try to play, but only with black screens.


 Looks like you need a third-party decoder to play it.

 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Supported_media_formats#MP4_H.264_%28AAC_or_MP3%29

 [799318 – [meta] Support H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback on desktop
 Firefox](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318)

 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561



 For linux:

 I got the video to play in Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04. I've
 not been able to get SeaMonkey 26 to play in either.

 When I rebooted to 14.04, Firefox couldn't play the video in window. I
 added just about every codec that I could think of... Finally figured it
 out for the FF part: my 12.04 has gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (which includes
 the h.264 decoder) installed, my 14.04 didn't.

 Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't provide gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in any of the
 Trusty/14.04 repositories. So, I added the mc3man ppa:
 http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/get-firefox-and-phonon-gstreamer-to.html
 and as soon as I did, Firefox played the video w/o issue. Now I just
 have to figure out why SeaMonkey 26 (32bit and 64bit) doesn't for me.

 Note: all versions of Firefox and SeaMonkey are the most current
 released Mozilla builds - not distro builds.

 
 
 My SeaMonkey is an openSUSE distro build.
 

OpenSUSE builds support gstreamer0.10:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:12.1:Update/seamonkey.1041/mozilla-gstreamer-760140.patch
and supposedly preparing to port to gstreamer1:
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Goals_13.1/Port_to_GStreamer_1.0

I wonder if this has anything to do with the Mozilla builds:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886180
Disable gstreamer in SeaMonkey

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-12 Thread Trane Francks

On 5/13/14 11:46 AM +0900, NoOp wrote:

On 05/12/2014 04:46 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/12/2014 07:28 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 05/10/2014 04:28 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.

Looks like you need a third-party decoder to play it.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Supported_media_formats#MP4_H.264_%28AAC_or_MP3%29

[799318 – [meta] Support H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback on desktop
Firefox](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318)

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561

For linux:

I got the video to play in Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04. I've
not been able to get SeaMonkey 26 to play in either.

Note: all versions of Firefox and SeaMonkey are the most current
released Mozilla builds - not distro builds.

My SeaMonkey is an openSUSE distro build.

OpenSUSE builds support gstreamer0.10:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:12.1:Update/seamonkey.1041/mozilla-gstreamer-760140.patch
and supposedly preparing to port to gstreamer1:
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Goals_13.1/Port_to_GStreamer_1.0

I wonder if this has anything to do with the Mozilla builds:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886180
Disable gstreamer in SeaMonkey

This doesn't seem to be a codec problem per se, as on my Mac I can play
the video just fine in Safari 6.1.3. Both SeaMonkey and Safari share the
same codec and plug-in libraries.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-12 Thread NoOp

On 05/12/2014 08:04 PM, Trane Francks wrote:
 On 5/13/14 11:46 AM +0900, NoOp wrote:
 On 05/12/2014 04:46 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
 On 05/12/2014 07:28 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 05/10/2014 04:28 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
 On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
 We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
 get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
 found.

 If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
 Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
 least try to play, but only with black screens.


 Looks like you need a third-party decoder to play it.

 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Supported_media_formats#MP4_H.264_%28AAC_or_MP3%29

 [799318 – [meta] Support H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback on desktop
 Firefox](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318)

 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561



 For linux:

 I got the video to play in Firefox 29 on Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04. I've
 not been able to get SeaMonkey 26 to play in either.

 When I rebooted to 14.04, Firefox couldn't play the video in window. I
 added just about every codec that I could think of... Finally figured it
 out for the FF part: my 12.04 has gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (which includes
 the h.264 decoder) installed, my 14.04 didn't.

 Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't provide gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in any of the
 Trusty/14.04 repositories. So, I added the mc3man ppa:
 http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/get-firefox-and-phonon-gstreamer-to.html
 and as soon as I did, Firefox played the video w/o issue. Now I just
 have to figure out why SeaMonkey 26 (32bit and 64bit) doesn't for me.

 Note: all versions of Firefox and SeaMonkey are the most current
 released Mozilla builds - not distro builds.



 My SeaMonkey is an openSUSE distro build.


 OpenSUSE builds support gstreamer0.10:
 https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:12.1:Update/seamonkey.1041/mozilla-gstreamer-760140.patch
 and supposedly preparing to port to gstreamer1:
 https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Goals_13.1/Port_to_GStreamer_1.0

 I wonder if this has anything to do with the Mozilla builds:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886180
 Disable gstreamer in SeaMonkey

 This doesn't seem to be a codec problem per se, as on my Mac I can play 
 the video just fine in Safari 6.1.3. Both SeaMonkey and Safari share the 
 same codec and plug-in libraries.
 

I've just shown that it *is* a codec problem on linux. Going a bit
further, the SeaMonkey linux builds disable gstreamer:

Configure arguments
...
--with-ccache=/usr/bin/ccache *--disable-gstreamer* --disable-pulseaudio
...

It is not disabled in the Firefox linux build:
Configure arguments

--enable-update-channel=release --enable-update-packaging
--with-google-api-keyfile=/builds/gapi.data --enable-crashreporter
--enable-release --enable-elf-hack --enable-stdcxx-compat
--target=i686-pc-linux --x-libraries=/usr/lib
--enable-warnings-as-errors --enable-official-branding
Probably due to this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794282
Enable GStreamer in official builds

I know nothing of the Mac builds, but you can check by having a look at
'about:buildconfig' (Configure arguments). Perhaps this may also be of
interest regarding Mac:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851290
Use GStreamer on Mac for H.264/MP3/AAC playback (instead of AV Foundation)


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel


On 10/05/14 10:45, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I
can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME
type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


I see what the problem is now.  There is a text block to the left of the
map that one can see with Safari, but not with SeaMonkey or Firefox.
With those, all you get is the map.  The only way I got a video to play
was by first clicking on View Gallery, then picking a picture, clicking
that to enlarge it, then clicking the play button.  This is possible for
me only with Safari.


This may be true on your installation, but not on mine or many others.
Here, the text block (as you call it) or navigation panel (as I would
call it) is easily visible to the left of the map with no action on my
part other than loading the page.

I can hide the navigation pane (maximize the map) by clicking the  at
the upper left corner of the map, and restore it by clicking the  at
the upper left corner of the map.

Ditto with my SM 2.26B2 on Win7 installation but not with my Linux 
installation as I'm missing some plug-ins!!


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-10 Thread EE


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I
can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME
type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


I see what the problem is now.  There is a text block to the left of the
map that one can see with Safari, but not with SeaMonkey or Firefox.
With those, all you get is the map.  The only way I got a video to play
was by first clicking on View Gallery, then picking a picture, clicking
that to enlarge it, then clicking the play button.  This is possible for
me only with Safari.


This may be true on your installation, but not on mine or many others.
Here, the text block (as you call it) or navigation panel (as I would
call it) is easily visible to the left of the map with no action on my
part other than loading the page.

I can hide the navigation pane (maximize the map) by clicking the  at
the upper left corner of the map, and restore it by clicking the  at
the upper left corner of the map.


Clicking that chevron symbol does nothing, except with Safari.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


EE wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

This may be true on your installation, but not on mine or many others.
Here, the text block (as you call it) or navigation panel (as I would
call it) is easily visible to the left of the map with no action on my
part other than loading the page.

I can hide the navigation pane (maximize the map) by clicking the  at
the upper left corner of the map, and restore it by clicking the  at
the upper left corner of the map.


Clicking that chevron symbol does nothing, except with Safari.


Have you disabled javascript? That's how it works.

Though if I do that, I get a blank white page with only the  symbol.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-10 Thread WaltS48


On 05/09/2014 01:27 AM, sean nathan wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


http://wqdatalive.com/public/55  No video with supported format and
mime-type found in mine...



Maybe you don't have the proper codecs installed.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13531709#p13531709

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-10 Thread WaltS48


On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



Looks like you need a third-party decoder to play it.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Supported_media_formats#MP4_H.264_%28AAC_or_MP3%29

[799318 – [meta] Support H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback on desktop 
Firefox](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318)


http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-10 Thread WaltS48

On 05/08/2014 08:49 AM, Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 9:35 PM +0900, Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

snip
So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?

There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether
the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for
Helpers
both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that
video/mp4
points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
video controls
source src= type=video/mp4
Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
/video

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.

SeaMonkey does handle HTML5 video, but not all HTML5 video is the same.
WebM and Ogg/Theora work fine. H.264/MP4 seem to be problematic. It is
the latter that is featured on the OP's site.

For what it's worth, Firefox 29.0 doesn't do it, either. So, yeah, this
isn't going to work with Mozilla browsers for at least the time being.

Not on Mac's anyway.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Supported_media_formats#MP4_H.264_%28AAC_or_MP3%29

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13538561#p13538561

[851290 – Use GStreamer on Mac for H.264/MP3/AAC playback (instead of AV
Foundation)](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851290)

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-09 Thread Robert Gault


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

snip
Try View | Page Info or CTRL-I. You'll find it on the Media tab.

If you can read javascript, look at how they assemble the URL at the bottom of
the source code, under loadSidebarData(siteID,siteName) etc. But it's much
easier to let SM do the calculation and read its answer as above. ;-)



Now we finally get the critical information. :)

I am running Seamonkey 2.26 on a WinXP system with Java SE 7 U55 v10.55.2.14 as 
a plugin. When I look at the Page Info on the Media tab I do not see the mp4 
video that is giving many of us problems. All I see are many Image (jpg png) 
entries.

On Page Source, I do see the
trtd onclick=loadSidebarData(151, 'Near\x20Shore\x20Buoy');Near Shore 
Buoy/td/tr

entry but nowhere can I find the
http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4
entry. The only place the file name appears
NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4
is at the top of the picture which states
No video with supported format and MIME type found.

That must mean the problem depends on the Seamonkey installation or the OS 
running Seamonkey.

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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/9/14 2:41 PM +0900, NoOp wrote:

On 05/08/2014 03:59 PM, Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/9/14 6:52 AM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 08/05/2014 18:53:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!


Do you speak about this one ?

http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4


When you guys are linking to this particular data source, where are you
seeing it exactly? It does NOT show up in the page source!



Hate to say it but... I open Chromium, right click on the video and
select Copy video URL.


You DO know that Chromium =/= SeaMonkey. :-\

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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/9/14 9:42 PM +0900, Robert Gault wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

snip
Try View | Page Info or CTRL-I. You'll find it on the Media tab.

If you can read javascript, look at how they assemble the URL at the bottom of
the source code, under loadSidebarData(siteID,siteName) etc. But it's much
easier to let SM do the calculation and read its answer as above. ;-)



Now we finally get the critical information. :)

I am running Seamonkey 2.26 on a WinXP system with Java SE 7 U55 v10.55.2.14 as
a plugin. When I look at the Page Info on the Media tab I do not see the mp4
video that is giving many of us problems. All I see are many Image (jpg png)
entries.
On Page Source, I do see the
trtd onclick=loadSidebarData(151, 'Near\x20Shore\x20Buoy');Near Shore
Buoy/td/tr
entry but nowhere can I find the
http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4
entry. The only place the file name appears
NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4
is at the top of the picture which states
No video with supported format and MIME type found.

That must mean the problem depends on the Seamonkey installation or the OS
running Seamonkey.

I concur. The MP4 data does not show in the page source or page info 
when I view it in my browser.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:29.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26


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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/9/14 11:59 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/9/14 6:52 AM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 08/05/2014 18:53:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME
type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!


Do you speak about this one ?

http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4



When you guys are linking to this particular data source, where are you
seeing it exactly? It does NOT show up in the page source!


Try View | Page Info or CTRL-I. You'll find it on the Media tab.


No, I won't. In my Media tab, I have an icon, background and a butt-load 
of images, but no video. There is no MP4 listed in my page info.



If you can read javascript, look at how they assemble the URL at the
bottom of the source code, under loadSidebarData(siteID,siteName) etc.
But it's much easier to let SM do the calculation and read its answer as
above. ;-)


Sure, but playing the MP4 directly solves absolutely nothing because 
that we know that pretty much any system can do. The issue is playing it 
in the browser via HTML5, and that's assuredly not working here.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-09 Thread Ed Mullen


Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 6:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

snip
So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
  video controls
  source src= type=video/mp4
  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
  /video

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.


But the file in question is
http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4,

so no HTML5 support is needed.

As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still
played fine.



If I click that .mp4 link, I get the video in VLC.  But if I clock the
http://wqdatalive.com/public/55 link and then navigate to Near Shore
Bout and Latest Video, I get the original poster's problem.
Furthermore, if I enable FlashBlock before starting the navigation to
Latest Video, I get an indication that the video is Flash (f in a circle
with the f changing to a right-pointing triangle if I move my cursor
into the area).



By the way, my Helper Applications show VLC media player 2.1.3 for
MPEG-4 File Format (video/mp4).


Hmm... I don't see much in the way of video Helper Applications,
although many (not all) videos play in my Windows 7 SM 2.26. Maybe I
don't recognize them. Here's what I think I have in Content Type:
Windows Media Audio/Video File and Movie Clip. There's no MPEG entries,
and no Video entries except Video Podcast.

I might (probably do?) have more that I don't recognize. Am I missing
something? Why do you have entries that I don't?

Larry S.


Various programs install plugins in your browsers when the programs are 
installed.  Apple QuickTime, Java JRE, VLC Player, MS Office, Winamp, 
Google Chrome (Google Update), video card drivers, are all examples of 
plugins on my system that were installed by other programs 
installations.  That's why you may or may not have the same plugins as 
someone else.



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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-09 Thread Ed Mullen


Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 08/05/2014 18:53:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!


Do you speak about this one ?

http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4



GULP!  Uh, yeah, that one!

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/9/14 11:59 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

When you guys are linking to this particular data source, where are you
seeing it exactly? It does NOT show up in the page source!


Try View | Page Info or CTRL-I. You'll find it on the Media tab.


No, I won't. In my Media tab, I have an icon, background and a butt-load
of images, but no video. There is no MP4 listed in my page info.


Well, that strikes this ignorant amateur as very odd -- it never 
occurred to me that the page source or page info could differ from 
version to version of SeaMonkey.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-09 Thread EE


Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 4:03 PM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


It's under the Near Shore Buoy Latest Video section. It appears that I
do not have a relevant helper configured for this, either, which is odd
considering that it's a plain ol' MP4. I play MP4 video on the desktop
all the time.


There is no such thing printed on the map.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-09 Thread EE


Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME
type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


I see what the problem is now.  There is a text block to the left of the 
map that one can see with Safari, but not with SeaMonkey or Firefox. 
With those, all you get is the map.  The only way I got a video to play 
was by first clicking on View Gallery, then picking a picture, clicking 
that to enlarge it, then clicking the play button.  This is possible for 
me only with Safari.


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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/10/14 4:58 AM +0900, EE wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 4:03 PM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


It's under the Near Shore Buoy Latest Video section. It appears that I
do not have a relevant helper configured for this, either, which is odd
considering that it's a plain ol' MP4. I play MP4 video on the desktop
all the time.


There is no such thing printed on the map.

It's not on the map. Try looking on the left side of the screen for Near 
Shore Buoy. Click on it. Go ahead, it won't hurt you. Then you should 
see Latest Video, per the OP's original instructions. Clicking on that 
should show the video that everybody has been discussing ad nauseum.


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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/10/14 12:33 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/9/14 11:59 AM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

When you guys are linking to this particular data source, where are you
seeing it exactly? It does NOT show up in the page source!


Try View | Page Info or CTRL-I. You'll find it on the Media tab.


No, I won't. In my Media tab, I have an icon, background and a butt-load
of images, but no video. There is no MP4 listed in my page info.


Well, that strikes this ignorant amateur as very odd -- it never
occurred to me that the page source or page info could differ from
version to version of SeaMonkey.

It strikes me as exceptionally odd, too. It could be that if one is 
spoofing a different user agent, the server is dishing up a slightly 
different page. Other than that, I have no likely explanation.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


EE wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I
can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME
type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


I see what the problem is now.  There is a text block to the left of the
map that one can see with Safari, but not with SeaMonkey or Firefox.
With those, all you get is the map.  The only way I got a video to play
was by first clicking on View Gallery, then picking a picture, clicking
that to enlarge it, then clicking the play button.  This is possible for
me only with Safari.


This may be true on your installation, but not on mine or many others. 
Here, the text block (as you call it) or navigation panel (as I would 
call it) is easily visible to the left of the map with no action on my 
part other than loading the page.


I can hide the navigation pane (maximize the map) by clicking the  at 
the upper left corner of the map, and restore it by clicking the  at 
the upper left corner of the map.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-08 Thread Ray_Net


WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25
I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and 
the title:

Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle
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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/8/14 4:03 PM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle

It's under the Near Shore Buoy Latest Video section. It appears that I 
do not have a relevant helper configured for this, either, which is odd 
considering that it's a plain ol' MP4. I play MP4 video on the desktop 
all the time.


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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/8/14 4:20 PM +0900, Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 4:03 PM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


It's under the Near Shore Buoy Latest Video section. It appears that I
do not have a relevant helper configured for this, either, which is odd
considering that it's a plain ol' MP4. I play MP4 video on the desktop
all the time.


I'll add that the video plays just fine in Safari 6.1.3. H.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.

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Re: Videos Won't Play


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.

I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app. 
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this 
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?

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Re: Videos Won't Play


Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME
type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


Also, it works in SM if I switch the page to IE using IE Tab.
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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?

In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually 
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only 
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I 
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add 
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper 
application, the video frame still shows the same error.


Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in 
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


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Re: Videos Won't Play


Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I
can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME
type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper
application, the video frame still shows the same error.

Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
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2014-05-08 Thread Robert Gault


Tom Pamin wrote:

snip
So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on whether 
the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for Helpers 
both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 
points to these helpers.


If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
video controls
source src= type=video/mp4
Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
/video

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle HTML5 
sites.
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Re: Videos Won't Play


Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

snip
So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
 video controls
 source src= type=video/mp4
 Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
 /video

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.
It does work using IE on 2 of my PC, except on one of my PC's it plays 
's but only shows a black screen. Any ideas?

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Re: Videos Won't Play


On 5/8/14 9:35 PM +0900, Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

snip
So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on whether
the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for Helpers
both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that video/mp4
points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
video controls
source src= type=video/mp4
Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
/video

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle HTML5 
sites.

SeaMonkey does handle HTML5 video, but not all HTML5 video is the same. 
WebM and Ogg/Theora work fine. H.264/MP4 seem to be problematic. It is 
the latter that is featured on the OP's site.


For what it's worth, Firefox 29.0 doesn't do it, either. So, yeah, this 
isn't going to work with Mozilla browsers for at least the time being.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Follow the OP's instructions:
 click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper
application, the video frame still shows the same error.

Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


Actually, you can edit existing entries in the prefs dialog, but I agree 
it doesn't seem possible to add or delete entries.


To change the handler of a file type, select its entry at Edit | 
Preferences | Browser | Helper Applications by clicking once. The name 
of the handler becomes a button. Click the button and you get a 
pull-down list, including the option Use other... If you don't see the 
application you want to use in the list, click Use other... and select 
the app there from among the ones the OS recognizes as capable of 
handling the file type. OK out.


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