Re: fix for the panel bug

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Charlene,

On 13-10-2004 23:06, you [CF] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
CF People are different, and a product such as TB is should match each
CF and every user's needs.

(Snip)

CF Not to upset you, just to let you know: the 1.6x could handle such
CF XXL-things perfectly, the stable releases of V 2.xx (and there were
CF some) could handle even over 200 megs ( I tried!) without any
CF complaint. My RAM was always sufficient for TB, just the 3.xx are
CF crashing when trying to do so.

I agree. Of course TB! should be able to handle this.

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Re[2]: Using PGP

2004-10-14 Thread Terry Frazier
Hello Kevin,

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:58 PM Kevin wrote:
 In addition to the steps Roelof wrote, did you go to the
 Tools|OpenPGP|OpenPGP Preferences|Files Menu and point to the proper
 files for your secret and public keys?

  In brief, yes.
  
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Re: Folder focus moves to Inbox when filter activated (bug)

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marcus,

On 13-10-2004 23:16, you [MO] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  TB! Message Filter 
 beginFilter
 UID: [4A87F17A.01C4A636.7BCF2732.0CDA0FFF]
 Name: alt.music.rush
 Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-MyGate-MID:\20alt.music.rush:\0D\0A}
 MoveMessage AutoFolder folder alt.music.rush

MO Look here ^^

 IsActive
 Ignore
 endFilter

JBL Ahh - a bit more fiddling, and I have found that the problem seems
JBL to be linked to the AutoFolder setting.

 I do not use this - mine is filtering stuff from MyGate to a fixed
 folder.

MO You do seem to have AutoFolder set. I have not ticked that option for
MO any of my filters and none of my filter has behaved like you describe
MO either. Then again, I never installed RC5.

This is strange! I don't believe I ever set this auto-folder thing? I
made a folder under my MyGate account where the filtered messages should
go. For some reason it has been made a AutoFolder.

OK, now we know for sure that there is at least 1 problem:

  * If AutoFolder is used, focus changes constantly to the account Inbox
on filtering.

... and maybe:

  * Filters may set up themselves with an AutoFolder without the user's
interaction (unconfirmed).

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Clive Taylor
 We need to be able to have only the message body be downloaded upon
 selection. Leave the attachments for only when they're selected for
 saving or viewing.

I'd second that.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Thomas,


   - [...]
   - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition
   - [...]

TW This means, that at least Ritlabs is going to publish a TB version with
TW fully enabled SecureBat! functions and other promised features?

The Bat! Professional should replace SecureBat!  As a matter of fact,
the Pro version already supports a subset of SB! features (working
with tokens).

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Allie,


AM Do remember not downloading attachments unless they're opened or saved
AM to file.


Yes, it's also in the work list :-)



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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Avi,

AY Stefan, this was the first good beta cycle in a long time.

I agree. One of the major goal for our team now is to keep the tempo
and motivation restored during this cycle. There was a good punch at
the start, but it would be better not to provoke such punches in
future :-)

  - Improved Windows-compatible editor (proper wrapping, more
functionality from MicroEd plus UNICODE support)

AY I hope you will find a better way to handle actions on strings of
AY words like changing case.

What I'm thinking of is making Ctrl+[/]\ working different if a
portion of text is selected...

  - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition

AY Without this, it seems like there is no significant differentiator
AY between the professional and the home edition.

There is - working with security tokens.

AY As a security measure, I would also like to see some more
AY effective encryption of passwords.

If you don't use TLS connection or at least CRAM-MD5 authentication,
there is no point in stronger encryption of passwords. The only way to
keep a password secure is to encrypt it with some password which
should be entered on start-up. Or passwords should be kept on security
tokens (which is possible with the Pro edition).

AY I find it disturbing that a small utility like The Bat! UnPass can
AY expose all of my current passwords on TB.

The size doesn't matter :-) As long as there is a programmable way to
reach passwords without user's interaction, that small piece of code
can be used for password extraction, no matter how complex the
algorithm is.

AY Stefan, if you would publish a better job offer, then you would surely
AY succeed in finding a good writer very quickly. There are many
AY qualified people looking for work these days, but - as I mentioned
AY before - your advertisement was not very attractive.

Point taken. Examples of good offers are welcome into my PM. We will
look for them in the Net, too...




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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Krzysztof,

KT I'm  starting  to  think I'll change my UNREG statement (see sig) soon. Good
KT work.

I think this is a very good mark, thank you! :-)

   - Customisable toolbars (and possibly menus)

KT How  about  more  changes  to  interface?  Like making some windows (address
KT picker,  addresbook  etc) dockable in main window, more flexible split modes
KT (perhaps  also in form of dockable and resizeable windows) etc? Have you got
KT any plans about this, or is it something you didn't yet think about?

Imagination can go on and on, it's not limited like working time :-)


KT I  would  also  seriously  consider  resigning  from  using one big file for
KT glyphs

It is possible to use several glyph files even now using BatSkin.INI.
Robo will publish its format as soon as it gets formalised and
documented.



-- 
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...Iron rusts from disuse, stagnant water loses its purity,
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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:48:40 PM, you wrote:

 The 3.0.1 Beta cycle is now closed and we are heading towards the
 traditional Christmas release. Here is a short list of things being
 addressed:

[...list...]

May I ask if you have assigned priorities? Which one will come first
and have high priority, etc. - or let the users vote?

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Den V. Yafyasov
Hello.


ST   - Extended plug-in interface
ST   - Customisable toolbars (and possibly menus)
ST   - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition

where can i find it (description or functionality)?

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Re: fix for the panel bug

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Charlene!

On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 11:30:04 PM you wrote:

 You need not to zip the file(s), TB does for you. In my case the
 format is RAR, don't know if it is the TB-standard or not since I
 use RAR.

I'd rather suggest to compress nonetheless; there's solutions out
there that do compress very large files into a number of smaller ones
with the user specifying the upper limit, like classical floppy or a
650 MB CD (ideal for backups and archiving, particularly for large
amounts of RAW files from DSLR).

Of course, TB's built-in solution would smooth the work-flow a bit,
nonetheless TB still does not compress, which means you still send out
70 MB instead of perhaps only 25 MB. As long as you don't try sending
already compressed files like JPEGs.

My compressor of choice: www.squeez.com. Current version is 4.2, a
beta for 5.x is already tested.




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Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Paul!

On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 10:45:14 PM you wrote:

 well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there,

 yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 .

Unfortunately I have to confirm, although I find it more annoying than
stopping (me from using TB). As long as it is only a handful of us
experiencing this bug RL will have a hard time getting to it.

BTW, once in between (during the MSI testing over the last few days)
one version lost my MT setting for which messages should be shown. I
did have Normal, Low and High Priority set to show, had to re-enable
High and Low one or two weeks back (the infamous lost messages
non-bug) and lost the setting again.

I don' remember which two versions exactly lost those but we should
have an eye on that setting in the future - there seems to be an
intermittent bug.




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Re: NFS bug?

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Max!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 1:14:31 AM you wrote:

 Should we add it to BugTrack? No entries were created yet.

I'd say so.




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Large attachements

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Allie!

On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 11:37:52 PM you wrote:

 E-mail was not intended for that type of transmission and I hope when
 it's being done, it is only over a local LAN and via the LAN
 mailserver, right? These are not mails transmitted across the Internet
 to public servers? If the latter is the case then other means of
 exchanging such large files really aught to be explored.

From Charlene's messages I infer she's talking about a backup copy of
her own digital photographs. Especially from the field e-mail may be a
viable solution, although I wouldn't do it since a lot of servers will
simply delete the attachment. Many others would mangle it, all in all
the chance of losing the backup is much greater with e-mail than with
CDs lost through postal services.

If my inference is correct, my advice is a small and rather cheap
device known as Vosonic's X-Drive. It's nothing more than a slightly
oversized card reader (capable of reading all flash memory cards) with
a notebook HD in it.

It's a two-button solution - just power it on, put in your memory card
and push Transfer, 1 GB takes a few minutes. At home (or in the
hotel) you connect the X-Drive via USB 2.0 to your computer and copy
or load the images to it.

Charlene, if you are reading this and I am right, you are welcome to
contact me privately.




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Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Dean!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 12:50:11 AM you wrote:

 Looking forward to the next beta cycle.

And to show you that we are not dwelling on the past but looking into
the future: Keep up with the work as you've done lately and we will
pat [it's not easy but I'll leave the pun] you time and again! :cigar:
:bat2angel:



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Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle

2004-10-14 Thread Martin Webster
 
Marcus Ohlström [MO], wrote:

MO I would like to take this opportunity to thank the programmers at
MO Ritlabs for a good, productive bug-squashing beta cycle.

MO You have done a terrific job and I really have appreciated working
MO with you both on and off list.

Yes, I agree... great job by all! Ritlabs has turned things around and
it's appreciated. Let's continue in this fashion.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 07:25, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

 The Bat! Professional should replace SecureBat!  As a matter of fact,
 the Pro version already supports a subset of SB! features (working
 with tokens).

Will you continue maintaining only one .exe and let the registration key
decide which features to reveal, or will you release different .exes for
different editions?

At least for us beta testers, life would be easier if you decide to
maintain just one .exe.

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AV in Common Filters NFS

2004-10-14 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the
NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the
attached AV.

TB could be closed but produced an error message (telling me it
produces a log).

The except.log tells me:

 14.10.2004 09:50:00 Records:FiltersDB.Free EAccessViolation Access
 violation at address . Read of address 

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Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Avi Yashar
Thanks for the informative reply, Stefan.

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:33:39 +0300, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

 AY I hope you will find a better way to handle actions on strings of
 AY words like changing case.
 
 What I'm thinking of is making Ctrl+[/]\ working different if a
 portion of text is selected...

That would be adequate. What would work just as good for me is if the
normal action of, say, Ctrl+[/]\ were to cause the cursor to jump not
to the end of the string but rather to the end of the string + 1
position. In most cases, that would make it very easy to change the
case on multiple, consecutive words.

   - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition
 
 AY Without this, it seems like there is no significant differentiator
 AY between the professional and the home edition.
 
 There is - working with security tokens.

I guess that I will have to study up on that. 

 AY As a security measure, I would also like to see some more
 AY effective encryption of passwords.
 
 If you don't use TLS connection or at least CRAM-MD5 authentication,
 there is no point in stronger encryption of passwords. The only way to
 keep a password secure is to encrypt it with some password which
 should be entered on start-up. Or passwords should be kept on security
 tokens (which is possible with the Pro edition).

Well, as I understand, the biggest security threat is an unattended
computer. If someone walks up to my computer with a diskette and uses
UnPass, s/he can have all of my passwords within seconds. After that,
s/he could access all of my mail and who knows what else.

But I am not at all an expert on this. So maybe you are right, and I
am just tilting at windmills here.

 AY I find it disturbing that a small utility like The Bat! UnPass can
 AY expose all of my current passwords on TB.
 
 The size doesn't matter :-) As long as there is a programmable way to
 reach passwords without user's interaction, that small piece of code
 can be used for password extraction, no matter how complex the
 algorithm is.

Perhaps, but couldn't it be a bit more difficult than it is now? I
mean, in theory, you can also break PGP encryption, but how long will
it take and how often is it done?

 AY Stefan, if you would publish a better job offer, then you would surely
 AY succeed in finding a good writer very quickly. There are many
 AY qualified people looking for work these days, but - as I mentioned
 AY before - your advertisement was not very attractive.
 
 Point taken. Examples of good offers are welcome into my PM. We will
 look for them in the Net, too...

Looking on the Web should be sufficient. 

As far as I can tell, job offers generally follow a standard format.
If the company is large and well-established, they probably won't
mention anything about salary. Everyone will assume that the salary is
comparable to market rates (and that the perks are better than
average). But with smaller companies, the salary is generally
specified (because people feel less secure applying for such jobs). If
the salary is reasonable, it should increase the number of responses
received.

You can get a good idea of what elements are standard in a job offer
by looking at the way this is organized at:

http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

Otherwise you can go to the Website of any major company to see how
they present their job offers (keeping in mind that the big companies
are less likely to say anything in advance about salary). For a look
at how Adobe and Microsoft do it, see:

http://cooljobs.adobe.com/frameset.html?goto=er-joblist

http://www.microsoft.com/careers/search/default.aspx

Taking the Yahoo base as a format, if you prepare something with the
following information: Position Type, Company Name, Location, Salary,
Date, Experience, and a general description, I will be happy to polish
the English for you so that you can distribute the job offer or add it
to your Web site. If you like, you can follow this up with me by PM.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marcus!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 9:52:59 AM you wrote:

 Will you continue maintaining only one .exe and let the registration key
 decide which features to reveal, or will you release different .exes for
 different editions?

Yesterday I read a message from Stefan on list in which he said that
the EXE will be the same but the package will be different. I presume
the security/professional features will be made available through
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Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing

2004-10-14 Thread David Elliott
Hail TBBETA,

1) I don't like using the mouse.
2) I have just imported an account from another copy of The Bat!
(which can not run BaresIT.

So I have a lot of messages I want to mark as junk.

If you use the Atl menu from the keyboard when a message is
highlighted then you will find it difficult to mark as junk because
1) Mark as Junk does not have a default key combo
2) There is no _ (there quick key) for the Special menu.

See attached (see red underline)

--
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  David   |David  Elliott|   Software  Engineer   |
 _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534  |
| Your asparagus is leaking. - Nate WDSNNE|
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| but crippled by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2  |attachment: tb4.PNG

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Avi!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 12:18:25 AM you wrote:

 One of the expectations I have for the next beta cycle is a
 substantially improved help file. Assuming that the next beta cycle
 runs for at least a month, this is not an unreasonable expectation.

I am not convinced that four weeks will be enough to add a sufficient
help file. Substantially improved, considering the current state of
the help file, would already be achieved by a list of changes since
v1.38 [cum grano salis].

You are quite right that, IMAP not withstanding*, the documentation is
the biggest bug for the time being.


*From what I know about IMAP the server software plays an important
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Re: Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello David!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 10:14:09 AM you wrote:

 1) Mark as Junk does not have a default key combo

But you can assign one (actually two, at least I had to do so: one for
the MT folder view and one for the Preview pane).

 2) There is no _ (there quick key) for the Special menu.

Should be changed. Haven't had a closer look, thus I can just hope
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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Foster, Graham

 And thank you for your message Stefan, it is appreciated :)
and seconded here

   - Customisable toolbars (and possibly menus)

 My preferred one from your list. But I'd happily give it up in exchange
 for Manual Re-Threading. :)

Sadly my preferences don't make it to this beta cycle. I'd like a
roots  branch reworking of addressing to make it simpler to use,
improve LDAP based address books (introducing automatic lookup) and
easier to manage long lists of addressees (automatic address group
creation from recipient lists, automatic address group creation in
filters, address autoview linked to LDAP ... etc etc)

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Re: AV in Common Filters NFS

2004-10-14 Thread Den V. Yafyasov
Hello.

TN H!

TN I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the
TN NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the
TN attached AV.

TN TB could be closed but produced an error message (telling me it
TN produces a log).

TN The except.log tells me:

 14.10.2004 09:50:00 Records:FiltersDB.Free EAccessViolation Access
 violation at address . Read of address 


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Re: Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello David,

 1) Mark as Junk does not have a default key combo

What about Alt+S and then K from the main menu?. Seems to work, although
I don't have any plugin.

 2) There is no _ (there quick key) for the Special menu.

Mentioned above. What about Alt+S?

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello Stefan,
On Thursday, October 14, 2004 you wrote:

KT How  about  more  changes  to  interface?  Like making some windows (address
KT picker,  addresbook  etc) dockable in main window, more flexible split modes
KT (perhaps  also in form of dockable and resizeable windows) etc? Have you got
KT any plans about this, or is it something you didn't yet think about?
 Imagination can go on and on, it's not limited like working time :-)

Sure.  But  are  you treating this just as an imagination or do you have any
objectives in this field?

 It is possible to use several glyph files even now using BatSkin.INI.
 Robo will publish its format as soon as it gets formalised and
 documented.

Yes,  but it should be automatic -- if a glyph doesn't exist in current set,
use the default one.

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TB! Help (Was: Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished)

2004-10-14 Thread Stuart Hemming
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ST (excluding help - I really do not have any idea how long would it
ST take and we are still looking for writer).
This is clearly a problem and one that will bemore greater as time
passes; each change to the program renders the help more and more out
of date.

You (RitLabs) seem have trouble finding a writer and when you do
s/he's going to have to have time to know the product well enough to
write about it.

The thing is you are awash with people that (a) know a fair bit about
the product and (b) are keen to see it progress, that is the Beta
Testers. Other prodcuts have had help files compiled by groups of
users why not this one?

You would, of course, need to do a bit of work to start with. You
would, for example, want to set up - say in MS Word - templates for
styles and things that your group of volunteer authors could use to
produce consistant work. You'd have to provide an /in/ to the relevant
programmer to answer specific questions from the authors to
cover/clarify points that the user has insufficient knowledge on and
your have to set up some mechanism for receipt and compilation of the
help file from its constituant parts. However, I imagine that all of
this would amount to much less work than writing the help file
yourselves. Once the file's been written I imagine that there would be
no shortage of volunteers for translation duties.

What do you think

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Re: AV in Common Filters NFS

2004-10-14 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, at 09:56:23 [UTC+0200] (Thursday, October
14, 2004 09:56 my local time) Thorvald Neumann wrote:

 I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the
 NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the
 attached AV.

Cannot confirm. I am able to create and manage common filters on both
Windows 95 and Windows 2000.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 10:13, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Will you continue maintaining only one .exe and let the registration
 key decide which features to reveal, or will you release different
 .exes for different editions?

 Yesterday I read a message from Stefan on list in which he said that
 the EXE will be the same but the package will be different. I presume
 the security/professional features will be made available through
 DLLs. I also remember something about differing keys.

I cannot find this message. Did he speak about the current situation or
about the future?

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Re: MAPI problem - TheBat replaces MAPI32.DLL

2004-10-14 Thread David Elliott
Dear TBBETA,

Rumour believes that on 14 October 2004, at 10:34:05 +0200 (which was
09:34 where I live) Martin Schoch might have written

 In already asked in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - but
 have no answer yet (only the trick to rename TBMAPI.DLL - but every
 MSI installation restores TBMAPI.DLL again).

 How can I tell TheBat! to _not_ touch the MAPI system and to _not_
 replace the existing MAPI32.DLL in the Windows system folder with
 the TBMAPI.DLL from Ritlabs?

 Note: TheBat! is _not_ the default email client.

 There must be a registry entry for TheBat! or the MAPI system which
 should be cleared, I think. But which one?

Don't know about registry entry, but there is the the dllcache. It
might be possible to add the dll into the cache so that when it get's
over written windows will ask you of you want to replace the old with
the new.

I have not tried this so I don't know what to do with it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:20:02 +0200, Dierk Haasis wrote:

  One of the expectations I have for the next beta cycle is a
  substantially improved help file. Assuming that the next beta cycle
  runs for at least a month, this is not an unreasonable expectation.
 
 I am not convinced that four weeks will be enough to add a sufficient
 help file. Substantially improved, considering the current state of
 the help file, would already be achieved by a list of changes since
 v1.38 [cum grano salis].

Dierk, if I might add a pinch of pepper, I don't think that a mere
list of changes would meet the substantially improved standard that
I have in mind. However, in principle, I do agree with you that even
if RL already had a first-class, full-time technical writer on the
payroll, it is unlikely that an adequate or sufficient help file would
be completed within four weeks. It is very likely that there will
still be a number of gaps in the documentation, perhaps marked with
TBDs. That is exactly why I set my expectations to a more realistic
substantially improved.

 You are quite right that, IMAP not withstanding*, the documentation is
 the biggest bug for the time being.

Well, as I said to Mary, I don't see this as a bug. It falls more
under the classification of a missing essential feature. But let's see
what happens. Dierk, why don't you apply for the job? If you get it,
then maybe I can stop complaining... or at least know whose work I am
criticizing. :-)

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Re: TB! Help (Was: Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished)

2004-10-14 Thread Stuart Hemming
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TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Williams
Hi -

I'd like to add another wish to the wish list: multiple mail
identities.

On some email accounts I have more than one domain coming into them
(say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'd like
to be able to associate all of these identities with the account and
select the identity I'm using when creating new/replying to messages
with that account.

Even better, the bat should work out when I reply to a message that
was addressed to one of these identities that it needs to set the
identity correctly. So if I reply to an incoming message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], it will pre-select the identity of [EMAIL PROTECTED] as
my from address. Call them account profiles I suppose.

Anyone else want this? (or can you already do this? - the only way I
can do it at the moment is to set up dummy accounts for all my
identities)

Marcus

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marcus!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 11:23:38 AM you wrote:

 I cannot find this message.

Unfortunately I can't find it either. Perhaps it is  a few days older
than I remembered and already purged from my message base.

 Did he speak about the current situation or about the future?

IIRC (and that stands to reason), his note had a futuristic tinge.




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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 11:40, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Did he speak about the current situation or about the future?

 IIRC (and that stands to reason), his note had a futuristic tinge.

Good to hear. Must have missed that one in the recent message storm.
Thanks (if it's adequate to thank a fellow list subscriber ;-)

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread David Elliott
Greetings TBBETA,

The ancient mystics foretold that on 14 October 2004, at 10:37:22
+0100 (which was 10:37 where I live) Marcus Williams thoughtfully
wrote the following

 I'd like to add another wish to the wish list: multiple mail
 identities.

 On some email accounts I have more than one domain coming into them
 (say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'd like
 to be able to associate all of these identities with the account and
 select the identity I'm using when creating new/replying to messages
 with that account.

 Even better, the bat should work out when I reply to a message that
 was addressed to one of these identities that it needs to set the
 identity correctly. So if I reply to an incoming message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will pre-select the identity of [EMAIL PROTECTED] as
 my from address. Call them account profiles I suppose.

 Anyone else want this? (or can you already do this? - the only way I
 can do it at the moment is to set up dummy accounts for all my
 identities)

You should be able to do that all ready with the %if statement in a
QT for reply.

logic I would think is

If (domain=abc.com)
{
  Make from address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
}
else
{
  If (domain=def.com)
  {
Make from address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  }
  else
  {
Make from address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  }
}

and pass on making it work.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marcus!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 11:44:12 AM you wrote:

 Good to hear. Must have missed that one in the recent message storm.
 Thanks (if it's adequate to thank a fellow list subscriber ;-)

:grin:

BTW, let's don't forget that all the folks working at RITLabs are also
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Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle

2004-10-14 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday 14 October 2004 07:25 am, Dierk Haasis wrote:
  well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there,
 
  yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 .

 Unfortunately I have to confirm, although I find it more annoying than
 stopping (me from using TB). As long as it is only a handful of us
 experiencing this bug RL will have a hard time getting to it.

obviously it isn't a priority :)

 BTW, once in between (during the MSI testing over the last few days)
 one version lost my MT setting for which messages should be shown. I
 did have Normal, Low and High Priority set to show, had to re-enable
 High and Low one or two weeks back (the infamous lost messages
 non-bug) and lost the setting again.

I didn't do any MSI installs until the latest release, 3.01.33


 I don' remember which two versions exactly lost those but we should
 have an eye on that setting in the future - there seems to be an
 intermittent bug.

I'm not sure I had those set, I'll check, next time I run it.

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Williams
On 14/10/2004, David Elliott wrote:
 You should be able to do that all ready with the %if statement in a
 QT for reply.

I've actually already done this but that only covers replying - I'd
like to be able to select an identity on new messages as well.

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marcus,

On 14-10-2004 12:45, you [MW] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MW I've actually already done this but that only covers replying - I'd
MW like to be able to select an identity on new messages as well.

A quick template easily accomplishes this:

Add this to your new message template:

%From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Williams
On 14/10/2004, Peter Fjelsten wrote:
 A quick template easily accomplishes this:

 Add this to your new message template:

 %From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a
drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there
that offers the each accounts associated address.

Marcus

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Marcus,

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:02:19 +0100GMT Marcus Williams wrote:

 Add this to your new message template:

 %From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a
 drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there
 that offers the each accounts associated address.

but you have this possibility already: look at the bottom of the
edit window, the second box from right shows the active account. Right
click in this box gives you the possibility to change the account.

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Markus Gloede
Hi,

Marcus Williams wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'd like a drop down in the from address similar to the one thats
 already there that offers the each accounts associated address.

You could create dummy accounts and then select the account in the
editor pane. (Of course you would have to set up filters in all dummy
accounts so that all sent mail gets stored in your cumulative account.)

Regards,

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Williams
On 14/10/2004, Feli Wilcke wrote:
 but you have this possibility already: look at the bottom of the
 edit window, the second box from right shows the active account. Right
 click in this box gives you the possibility to change the account.

But I have multiple identities for any one account... so clicking on
the account only gets me the from changed to that accounts associated
email address. I want multiple email address to be able to be
associated with a single account. Mail tools such as mutt, kmail,
evolution do this and its very useful.

Marcus

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Marcus,

On 14-10-2004 13:02, you [MW] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MW But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a
MW drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there
MW that offers the each accounts associated address.

True but if you use these templates sensibly, you do not need to make
more templates than if you had separate accounts.

New message template (Identity 1):

%QInclude=Your standard template with all your common options
%From=your account 1 

- that's all.

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VCard Error

2004-10-14 Thread Ethan J. Mings

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 3.0.1.33
  Serial Number removed for this e-mail
  under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
VCard cannot be placed into the right group in the address book

  Steps to reproduce the bug:

Create a VCard in one e-mail account.
Mail the VCard to another account
Open the new e-mail
Click on VCard
Click on Add to Address Book
None of the address groups appear
Does not import into the address book correctly.



Regards,
  Ethan J. Mings

PS I know VCard is old school yet it is helpful for some of my clients
so please bear with me.

Jerry

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Re: Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing

2004-10-14 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello David,

Thursday, October 14, 2004, 10:14:09 AM, among other things, you wrote:

DE So I have a lot of messages I want to mark as junk.

You  can  assign  your own shortcut key combinations by using the menu
called with Alt+F12.

I use Alt+J for 'Mark as Junk' and Shift+Alt+J for 'Mark as NOT Junk.

N.B.  Alt+J  is  also  used  to set formatting, but as it is used in a
different window there is no conflict.

I hope this helps.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Stefan,

On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 23:48 your local time, which was 21:48 my
local time, Stefan Tanurkov [ST] wrote;

ST   - Further improving IMAP support (folder counters, automatic
ST filtering, sounds, support of multiple parallel connections to a
ST single server)

All of the above sounds very promising and something that I am
personally looking forward too immensely :-)
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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Marcus,

 But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a
 drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there
 that offers the each accounts associated address.

Assume you have several QTs (QT1, QT2, QT3, etc.)with new message
templates for your different identities. Then, create a new QT (let's
call it IDENTS), or your new message template, with this content:

QT1
QT2
QT3
...

When you start a new message it will be filled with the vertical list of
QTs. Place your cursor at the end of the desired one (i.e QTncursor)
and hit Ctrl+Space. The selected QT will be executed and your
message filled in with the desired identity.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Graham,

 Sadly my preferences don't make it to this beta cycle.

In Spain we say that it never rains to everyone's satisfaction :)


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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Williams
On 14/10/2004, MAU wrote:
 When you start a new message it will be filled with the vertical list of
 QTs. Place your cursor at the end of the desired one (i.e QTncursor)
 and hit Ctrl+Space. The selected QT will be executed and your
 message filled in with the desired identity.

Now theres an idea will investigate this. If anyone is interested
I'll post my templates somewhere if I get it working satisfactorily.

Marcus

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Mic Cullen
At 13:50 [GMT+0200] on Thursday October 14 (actual time - 7:50pm on Thursday
in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:

[snips]

 Sadly my preferences don't make it to this beta cycle.

MAU In Spain we say that it never rains to everyone's satisfaction  

In Australia, we say The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

Whatever that means :-)

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Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Thursday, October 14, 2004 it appears that Stefan Tanurkov
wrote the following in regards to The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished:

AM Do remember not downloading attachments unless they're opened or saved
AM to file.


ST Yes, it's also in the work list  

Hi Stefan. Since we're talking about things on the work list, I
wonder if you all had any thoughts about adding drag/drop out of
TB! to another program. I, for one, would find this very useful
for harvesting email info for Zoot, ADM, Net Snippets or one of
the other data gathering programs out there.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Marcus,

 Now theres an idea

Not just an idea but a reality. I regularly use this kind of menu of
QTs for several purposes.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Mic,

 In Australia, we say The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.
 
 Whatever that means :-)

This is a partial quote from...

,- [ http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=35459 ]
|
| You can do what I call a brute force search on www.google.com using
| the following phrase search (include the quotation marks):
| 
|   the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain
| 
| We quickly find from:
| 
|   South African English Pronunciation
|   http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/accent.htm
| 
| 'The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain' is a phrase reputedly
| used by language teachers. Perhaps it is a good example, because it is
| a vowel not found in some other languages, Russian, for example. It is
| also, however, a vowel that differs in different dialects.
| 
| Columbus World City Guide - London - Language
| http://www.cityguide.travel-guides.com/cities/lon/Language.asp
| 
| Tells us:
| 
| Professor Higgins (Rex Harrison) famously tries to cure Eliza
| Doolittle (Audrey Hepburn) of this habit in the film, My Fair Lady
| (based on George Bernard Shaw's play Pygmalion), by making her recite
| 'The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain' and not 'The rhine in
| Spine falls minely on the pline'.
| 
| These examples appear to indicate that this phrase exists because of
| its phonetic properties, and has nothing to do with the climate in
| Spain.
| 
`-


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Re[2]: Thanks for a good beta cycle

2004-10-14 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Paul,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 3:45:14 PM, you wrote:


PC well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there,
PC obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just
PC SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much I
PC can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain.
PC yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 .

You don't happen to have a filter that has Autocreation selected do
you? By this I mean a filter that is supposed to move a message to a
folder that may not be there already and have it autocreate if
necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on
deliberately, but it is still checked.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Mic!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 3:17:40 PM you wrote:

 Whatever that means :-)

That you can speak proper English, as long as you actually pronounce
it correctly. Just ask Professor Higgins ...




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Re: Memory leak when opening editor

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 10:49, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

 When opening MidroEd, regardless if I'm creating a new mail or answering
 an old, TB! leaks memory. At least 3KB of memory is allocated and not
 returned when closing the editor (it doesn't matter if I close it by
 sending the email or by cancelling it).

 Since I'm still on a very old beta, I would appreciate confirmations
 from users with current betas. I'll add a BT item as soon as someone has
 confirmed the memory leak.

This is even worse now, according to my Task Manager, TB!'s memory usage
goes up between 5-7MB each time I open the MicroEd. In addition, 5-7MB
of virtual memory is reported as lost too.

Any confirmations or comments before I add to the BT?

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Re: Memory leak when opening editor

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:01, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

 This is even worse now, according to my Task Manager, TB!'s memory
 usage goes up between 5-7MB each time I open the MicroEd. In addition,
 5-7MB of virtual memory is reported as lost too.

When trying after sending the mail, I could not reproduce it myself, not
even after a restart of TB!. Strange.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 22:48, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

/.../

 This is not a promise, this is our working list.

Stefan, I cannot resist reminding you of an email you sent January 20
this year ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

,-
| MO While you're here and we are talking address books, may I ask about the
| MO status of the purge routine for address books reported at
| MO https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002333
| 
| It's assigned :-)
| 
| It will be addressed as soon as we deal with other fixes in our plan...
`-

Please?

According to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=0003643 it is an
even bigger problem then I first described since it is not only related
to deletion of addresses.

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Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore

2004-10-14 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear all,

So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is out
of balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory is used
at arround 46% (using 256 MB RAM). I can try what ever combination but
it wont get better.

   - Currently I'm using v3.0.1.33 with /NO/ plug-in at all.
   - TB! wont leave my Memory when closing.
   - When restarting TB! it has not stored the last display features
 and I must all set them by hand. (see picture)
   - Once I closed TB! (but did not remove it from Memory by hand) and
 rebooted. I then got an AV. I was not able in writing the Value
 as the re-boot process cleared the AV-window.

At this moment I can't work properly with TB! open as the high CPU is
blocking proper usage of CPU from other applications. In two instances
it even crashed my System.

As I have jet not installed the latest Version release yesterday I
still as you folk to have a look into it. All my cry the last few days
has not given any result.

I want to ask RL and other to give me a hand in this problem. You on
your side seems to be happy with your Version.


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Wishing

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello TBBETA Members!

  Two wishes I had for some time:

  1. A keyboard shortcut to open the MT folder view when the MT shows
 messages. (Or did I simply overlook it?)

  2. I'd really like to use more than one dictionary at once (like
 Word can), since I use German and English in the same message
 lots of the time.



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Re: Wishing

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:24, Dierk Haasis wrote:

   1. A keyboard shortcut to open the MT folder view when the MT shows
  messages. (Or did I simply overlook it?)

Yes, you overlooked Options | Preferences | System hot keys. I use
ctrl-shift-r.

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Re: Wishing

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marcus!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 4:29:34 PM you wrote:

 Yes, you overlooked Options | Preferences | System hot keys. I use
 ctrl-shift-r.

D'uh!

Now that's a way to wake up - in the late afternoon.



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Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore

2004-10-14 Thread danger
Hello Eddie,

Thursday, October 14, 2004, 10:24:24 AM, you wrote:

EC Dear all,

EC So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is out
EC of balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory is used
EC at arround 46% (using 256 MB RAM). I can try what ever combination but
EC it wont get better.


snip

A lot of this was addressed in the rc's. Please install the final
released version and see if this still is the case.




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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Manuel Diaz
Hello Dierk Haasis,

On 14-10-2004, at 11:40 (local time here), you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Unfortunately I can't find it either. Perhaps it is  a few days older
 than I remembered and already purged from my message base.

Message was in fact from Max, I believe. See
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore

2004-10-14 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Eddie,

   -- Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2004, 16:24:24:


 So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is
 out of balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory
 is used 

Forgotten the URL for the picture
http://www.EddieCastelli.com/pub/thebat/rc6-to/20041014_TB!v30133-StartUp.gif


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:35, Manuel Diaz wrote:

 Unfortunately I can't find it either. Perhaps it is  a few days older
 than I remembered and already purged from my message base.

 Message was in fact from Max, I believe. See
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nothing mentioned about future versions. Anyone from Ritlabs want's to
reveal your plans, or should we just wait and see?

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Re: Wishing

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Dierk,

   2. I'd really like to use more than one dictionary at once (like
  Word can), since I use German and English in the same message
  lots of the time.

That'd be really nice since I some times mix English and Spanish. My
goodold Virtual Access mail client/newsreader had that capability
mny years ago.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Manuel!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 4:35:46 PM you wrote:

 Message was in fact from Max, I believe. See
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

No wonder I couldn't find it.




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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marcus!

On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 4:47:29 PM you wrote:

 Nothing mentioned about future versions. Anyone from Ritlabs want's to
 reveal your plans, or should we just wait and see?

From context I inferred that he meant the future differences between
Home and Pro as there wasn't one at the time asked (at least none we
knew of)?!




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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:54, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Nothing mentioned about future versions. Anyone from Ritlabs want's
 to reveal your plans, or should we just wait and see?

 From context I inferred that he meant the future differences between
 Home and Pro as there wasn't one at the time asked (at least none we
 knew of)?!

There is and has been for a while (see for example
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), which of course points to
the direction that the two versions will be kept in the same .exe even
in the future.

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Whishlist item

2004-10-14 Thread shemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I wish I could go back to messages I've recently read; trying to find
one message in a long thread when you've jumped to another is
difficult.

Another app I used to use recorded the location of all messages that
were read in that session and at any point you could hit backspace to
move through the history list. I'd be happy if TB! just recorded the
location of the last 10 or so and made this list accessible from, say,
the context menu.

Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list?

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread David Elliott
Hello TBBETA,

Rumour believes that on 14 October 2004, at 12:49:13 +0200 (which was
11:49 where I live) Peter Fjelsten wrote

MW I've actually already done this but that only covers replying - I'd
MW like to be able to select an identity on new messages as well.

 A quick template easily accomplishes this:

 Add this to your new message template:

 %From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I do this with different QT.

sigwork

%ACCOUNT=David @ Work4theweb.com
%FROM=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%REPLYTO=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%ORG=DEAL

sigell

%ACCOUNT=David @ Work4theweb.com
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%ORG=DEAL

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Re: Whishlist item

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello shemming,

 Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list?

I certainly do. My googold VA (Virtual Access) that I have mentioned in
another post today did this mny years ago

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Wierd HTML rendering

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello all,

As the list server blocked a message I sent because of the size of the
attachment, I have just opened a BT report without waiting for any
confirmation. If you'd care to take a look:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3931

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autocreate, WAS- Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle

2004-10-14 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday 14 October 2004 01:53 pm, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
 PC well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there,
 PC obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just
 PC SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much
 I PC can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain.
 PC yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 .

 You don't happen to have a filter that has Autocreation selected do
 you? By this I mean a filter that is supposed to move a message to a
 folder that may not be there already and have it autocreate if
 necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on
 deliberately, but it is still checked.

I have quite a few filters with autocreate turned on, why???

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Re: Whishlist item

2004-10-14 Thread Tim Sharrock
Thursday, October 14, 2004, 4:42:05 PM, MAU wrote:

 Hello shemming,
 Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list?
 I certainly do. My googold VA (Virtual Access) that I have mentioned in
 another post today did this mny years ago

me too
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Re[2]: Wrapped .33

2004-10-14 Thread Lynn

10/14/2004

MB I really didn't think that I had the computer skills to be able to
MB contribute, among the really able people on a list where I'd been
MB lurking for awhile.

Beta testing is less a matter of computer skills per se, than it
is a matter of using the software enough to find out where it
breaks, and being willing to document what happened and where.

Well, and taking the risk that something will break that will
require some technical expertise in the recovery, but that's not
going to happen here, eh? lol!

I should probably not be doing it, for lack of time, but the only
problems I'm having at the moment (.33 loaded fine, only one
entry in the add/remove programs list, haven't seen the other
problems people have been having) is with the NFS, but as that
may be operator error, I'm still tweaking it.

Nothing but party, party, party :-)

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Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore

2004-10-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Eddie Castelli  everyone else

14-Okt-2004 16:24, you wrote:

 So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is out of
 balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory is used at
 arround 46% (using 256 MB RAM). I can try what ever combination but it
 wont get better.

And are you using 3.0.1.33 now? This is the 3.01 release version.

If I were you... I'd...

1. copy the entire TB folder somewhere safe

2. backup the registry settings

3. make a backup from within TB

4. uninstall TB

5. wipe *anything* left from the installation
   (especially check if you still have entries in the control panel,
   add/remove programs, remaining files, plugins, registry entries and
   whatever else)

6. make a clean re-install  do NOT yet restore your backup

7. freshly create your account(s) in TB

8. check what happens

If the error occurs again now, your system is corrupted somehow...

If it doesn't happen with a clean re-install  fresh account data, its
something with your TB files, or the TB registry entries. Try restoring
your backup you made with the internal backup utility. If it still works,
it was your registry, it not... uh-oh...  how could we find the faulty
message, or folder, or whatever it may be?

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Re: AV in Common Filters NFS

2004-10-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Thorvald Neumann  everyone else

14-Okt-2004 09:56, you wrote:

 I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the
 NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the
 attached AV.

No problem here.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread Lynn

10/14/2004

ST   - Further bug fixing, of course :-)

Here's a trivial one I just discovered .. the up/down/in/out
buttons on the NFS window don't show alternate glyphs if you are
using them.

But thanks for getting them in ..


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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread Allie Martin
Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote:

 Now theres an idea

 Not just an idea but a reality. I regularly use this kind of menu of
 QTs for several purposes.

Don't forget that you can apply QT's by typing the handle and then
hitting CTRLSpaceBar.

I do this to change identities and signatures all the time. It can be
faster, especially since your hands may already be on the keyboard.

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Re: autocreate, WAS- Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle

2004-10-14 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Paul,
Thursday, October 14, 2004, 7:00:14 AM, you wrote:

 PC well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there,
 PC obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just
 PC SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much
 I PC can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain.
 PC yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 .

 You don't happen to have a filter that has Autocreation selected do
 you? By this I mean a filter that is supposed to move a message to a
 folder that may not be there already and have it autocreate if
 necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on
 deliberately, but it is still checked.

PC I have quite a few filters with autocreate turned on, why???

 See the following bug report:
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3924

 This appears to be causing some odd jumping, admittedly not in Mail
Ticker, but it may be related.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread drifthat
Hello Stefan,

Thursday, October 14, 2004, 4:48:40 AM, you wrote:

ST The 3.0.1 Beta cycle is now closed and we are heading towards the
ST traditional Christmas release. Here is a short list of things being
ST addressed:

ST   - Improving support of Internaional character sets (proper handling
ST of UTF-*, DBCS and Middle East languages)

Great news!!

ST   - Improved Windows-compatible editor (proper wrapping, more
ST functionality from MicroEd plus UNICODE support)

Please don't forget SmartBat. I'd like to use it to replace the NotePad. But it
does not support DBCS/unicode currently... :(


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Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore

2004-10-14 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Alexander,

   -- Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2004, 18:24:37:


 And are you using 3.0.1.33 now? This is the 3.01 release version.

Yes to your question. I just downloaded the latest release and saw
that it's the same as I downloaded yesterday.


 If I were you... I'd...

Your answer is far the best for a long time that it seams to make
sense to me. Please no offend to all others.

Let me as some questions to have it got right:

 1. copy the entire TB folder somewhere safe

you mean the apps folder or the data folder?

 2. backup the registry settings

will do ...

 3. make a backup from within TB

will do also ...
Any thing I have to consider? I've never used this feature.

 4. uninstall TB

ok ...

 5. wipe *anything* left from the installation
(especially check if you still have entries in the control panel,
add/remove programs, remaining files, plugins, registry entries and
whatever else)

Control Panel? which one is this (I run a German version)

 6. make a clean re-install  do NOT yet restore your backup

ok!

 7. freshly create your account(s) in TB

is one enough or all of them?

 8. check what happens

Will report back!

 If the error occurs again now, your system is corrupted somehow...

hope not /finger crossed/

 If it doesn't happen with a clean re-install  fresh account data,
 its something with your TB files, or the TB registry entries. Try
 restoring your backup you made with the internal backup utility. If
 it still works, it was your registry, it not... uh-oh... how could
 we find the faulty message, or folder, or whatever it may be?

hope not either as there are so many of them /double crossing my
fingers/


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Re: Whishlist item

2004-10-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello shemming,

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

sec I wish I could go back to messages I've recently read; trying to find
sec one message in a long thread when you've jumped to another is
sec difficult.

sec Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list?

Very much so. AMEOL has this facility in its menu. Just hit the
backspace and it scrolls through all the messages or right click on the
message pane and you can select which message you want to go back to as
all the details are there.

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I guess it is wishlist time!

2004-10-14 Thread MFAS
Hello tbbeta,

Years ago I requested a feature:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1999

I would like a field added to address book entries to show
the last edit date and ideally a change log. Any thoughts
and especially support would be appreciated.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Lynn,

 Here's a trivial one I just discovered .. the up/down/in/out
 buttons on the NFS window don't show alternate glyphs if you are
 using them.

That's not a bug. The many alternate glyphs.bmp need to be updated to
add an extra row for the missing icons.

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Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Don't forget that you can apply QT's by typing the handle and then
 hitting CTRLSpaceBar.

No, I don't forget that. What I forget is the names of the many QTs I
have :)


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Re: Wishing

2004-10-14 Thread Francis Segond

Bonjour Dierk,

Il est indéniable que Dierk Haasis a proféré le
  jeudi 14 octobre 2004 à 16:24:15 GMT +0200

DH   2. I'd really like to use more than one dictionary at once (like
DH  Word can), since I use German and English in the same message
DH  lots of the time.

About two years ago (possibly more) I sent a similar wish but had no
reaction neither from TheBat guys nor from other users. I'm glad to
hear that I wasn't the only one to wish this feature (available in
Poco Mail for example). I guess plenty of us have to write their mails
using two different tongues (German and French in my case).

I don't know whether the spelling module used by TheBat (Sentry
Spelling-Checker Engine) allows it, but I'd love to see this
feature implemented soon.

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Now - try this...

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers.

By change I stumbled over this - is it TB!, Windows or something else
that does this:

 1. RTV

 2. Focus in the message preview pane

 3. Ctrl +  and Ctrl -  on numerical part of the keyboard

Here the font size of the message pane changes (larger/smaller).

Hidden feature or something set up on my PC?

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Re: Whishlist item

2004-10-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 12:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wish I could go back to messages I've recently read; trying to
 find one message in a long thread when you've jumped to another is
 difficult.

You can do this by hitting alt-left arrow. Couldn't live without it.
It does not seem to be able to jump between accounts though, but
that's good enough for me.

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Re: Now - try this...

2004-10-14 Thread Lynn

10/14/2004

PF  1. RTV

PF  2. Focus in the message preview pane

PF  3. Ctrl +  and Ctrl -  on numerical part of the keyboard

PF Here the font size of the message pane changes (larger/smaller).

PF Hidden feature or something set up on my PC?


Interesting! It puts the master volume up and down on mine .. no
change in the fonts ...


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Re: Now - try this...

2004-10-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello Zeynel,
Thursday, October 14, 2004, 8:22:38 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):

 Thursday, October 14, 2004, 8:08:07 PM, you wrote:

PF Hidden feature or something set up on my PC?

 It does the same function here. It seems you've just found an
 undiscovered feature (at least by me).

The degree of magnification and reduction is very large indeed. That's
very useful. Personally, I like it.

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Re: Now - try this...

2004-10-14 Thread Krzysztof Radzikowski
Hello Peter,

Thursday, October 14, 2004, 7:08:07 PM, you wrote:

PF Hello beta testers.

PF By change I stumbled over this - is it TB!, Windows or something else
PF that does this:

PF  1. RTV

PF  2. Focus in the message preview pane

PF  3. Ctrl +  and Ctrl -  on numerical part of the keyboard

PF Here the font size of the message pane changes (larger/smaller).

PF Hidden feature or something set up on my PC?


normal windows behavior - also works in word excel etc

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Re: Whishlist item

2004-10-14 Thread MAU
Hello Marcus,

 You can do this by hitting alt-left arrow. Couldn't live without it.
 It does not seem to be able to jump between accounts though, but
 that's good enough for me.

H, how long have you been using this? I seem to recall that it was
going back just _one_ message for me. But then, I have upgraded BT so
many times in the past couple of months. I upgraded to 2.12 just about 2
months ago.

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PGP bug revisited

2004-10-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello TBBETA Members!

  Anybody remember the problem where CKT versions of PGP didn't
  correctly decode special characters, like German umlauts becoming
  Hex-code?

  Quick rehash: CKT builds are usable with TB via plug-in; there has
  been one way back by RL, which was later superseded by one
  programmed between RL and Imad Faiad (who apparently has retired).
  For years everything worked fine until some day we were presented
  with messages that upon decrypting showed Hex-code instead of
  special characters.

  For use with TB I went to GPG with GPGShell, both of which I updated
  today. Unfortunately GPG showed me a message of no trust because
  not signed for keys that have been signed and trusted [awkward
  grammar intended] by me.

  So I reverted to PGP 6.5.8CKT and still found the special character bug.

  Is there a chance this bug will be hunted down? And either solved or
  validly identified as a problem of PGP CKT?



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Re: fix for the panel bug

2004-10-14 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Dierk Haasis,

Thursday, October 14, 2004 
you put on your sharpest glasses and informed me -us-:


 I'd rather suggest to compress nonetheless; there's solutions out
 there that do compress very large files into a number of smaller ones
 with the user specifying the upper limit, like classical floppy or a
 650 MB CD (ideal for backups and archiving, particularly for large
 amounts of RAW files from DSLR).
Since I was recipient that time, I could not have any influence on that.
I personally do compress by RAR. In earlier versions of TB it was
implemented in the process of splitting, at least that's what I guess.
The attachments in fact were all *.rar files -so I think TB is a smart
one ;-)  Now, a couple of weeks ago, I see no attachment at all. Seems
to be empty, and TB freezes. Yesterday I found out, that it is not
necessarily a TB-problem alone. Just for the thrill of it I reinstalled
my V 2.04 and had the same crash. But I know id did work weeks ago.
Maybe the upgrading to Win XP SP2 has something to do with it; heard of
a feature that now allows Windows to remember the downloaded nature of
a file that came from the Web and may therefor be a potential threat.
You can read a lot of things about what SP2 does with windows, so maybe
I am not completely wrong. But after last night I will not blame TB for
the flaw alone anymore.



 Of course, TB's built-in solution would smooth the work-flow a bit,
 nonetheless TB still does not compress, which means you still send out
 70 MB instead of perhaps only 25 MB.
The files I send are compressed and stored as one file, sent by TB in
pieces and hopefully reassembled on the recipient's side.


 My compressor of choice: www.squeez.com. Current version is 4.2, a
 beta for 5.x is already tested.
I think I will take a look at it, thank you for your effort!




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