Re: fix for the panel bug
Charlene, On 13-10-2004 23:06, you [CF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: CF People are different, and a product such as TB is should match each CF and every user's needs. (Snip) CF Not to upset you, just to let you know: the 1.6x could handle such CF XXL-things perfectly, the stable releases of V 2.xx (and there were CF some) could handle even over 200 megs ( I tried!) without any CF complaint. My RAM was always sufficient for TB, just the 3.xx are CF crashing when trying to do so. I agree. Of course TB! should be able to handle this. -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 322 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Using PGP
Hello Kevin, Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:58 PM Kevin wrote: In addition to the steps Roelof wrote, did you go to the Tools|OpenPGP|OpenPGP Preferences|Files Menu and point to the proper files for your secret and public keys? In brief, yes. -- Cordially, -twf = Terry Frazier Atlanta, GA, USA Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Folder focus moves to Inbox when filter activated (bug)
Marcus, On 13-10-2004 23:16, you [MO] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [4A87F17A.01C4A636.7BCF2732.0CDA0FFF] Name: alt.music.rush Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-MyGate-MID:\20alt.music.rush:\0D\0A} MoveMessage AutoFolder folder alt.music.rush MO Look here ^^ IsActive Ignore endFilter JBL Ahh - a bit more fiddling, and I have found that the problem seems JBL to be linked to the AutoFolder setting. I do not use this - mine is filtering stuff from MyGate to a fixed folder. MO You do seem to have AutoFolder set. I have not ticked that option for MO any of my filters and none of my filter has behaved like you describe MO either. Then again, I never installed RC5. This is strange! I don't believe I ever set this auto-folder thing? I made a folder under my MyGate account where the filtered messages should go. For some reason it has been made a AutoFolder. OK, now we know for sure that there is at least 1 problem: * If AutoFolder is used, focus changes constantly to the account Inbox on filtering. ... and maybe: * Filters may set up themselves with an AutoFolder without the user's interaction (unconfirmed). -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 322 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
We need to be able to have only the message body be downloaded upon selection. Leave the attachments for only when they're selected for saving or viewing. I'd second that. -- Regards Clive Taylor Using TB 3.0.1.33 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hi Thomas, - [...] - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition - [...] TW This means, that at least Ritlabs is going to publish a TB version with TW fully enabled SecureBat! functions and other promised features? The Bat! Professional should replace SecureBat! As a matter of fact, the Pro version already supports a subset of SB! features (working with tokens). -- Sincerely, Stefan ...If a program is useful, it will have to be changed. pgp4mLLjuHxHl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Allie, AM Do remember not downloading attachments unless they're opened or saved AM to file. Yes, it's also in the work list :-) -- Read you later Stefan ...DesqView! ... Gesundheit. pgpYOv1G7UWJp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Avi, AY Stefan, this was the first good beta cycle in a long time. I agree. One of the major goal for our team now is to keep the tempo and motivation restored during this cycle. There was a good punch at the start, but it would be better not to provoke such punches in future :-) - Improved Windows-compatible editor (proper wrapping, more functionality from MicroEd plus UNICODE support) AY I hope you will find a better way to handle actions on strings of AY words like changing case. What I'm thinking of is making Ctrl+[/]\ working different if a portion of text is selected... - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition AY Without this, it seems like there is no significant differentiator AY between the professional and the home edition. There is - working with security tokens. AY As a security measure, I would also like to see some more AY effective encryption of passwords. If you don't use TLS connection or at least CRAM-MD5 authentication, there is no point in stronger encryption of passwords. The only way to keep a password secure is to encrypt it with some password which should be entered on start-up. Or passwords should be kept on security tokens (which is possible with the Pro edition). AY I find it disturbing that a small utility like The Bat! UnPass can AY expose all of my current passwords on TB. The size doesn't matter :-) As long as there is a programmable way to reach passwords without user's interaction, that small piece of code can be used for password extraction, no matter how complex the algorithm is. AY Stefan, if you would publish a better job offer, then you would surely AY succeed in finding a good writer very quickly. There are many AY qualified people looking for work these days, but - as I mentioned AY before - your advertisement was not very attractive. Point taken. Examples of good offers are welcome into my PM. We will look for them in the Net, too... -- Read you later Stefan ...Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I. pgpgDogHqMJEY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Krzysztof, KT I'm starting to think I'll change my UNREG statement (see sig) soon. Good KT work. I think this is a very good mark, thank you! :-) - Customisable toolbars (and possibly menus) KT How about more changes to interface? Like making some windows (address KT picker, addresbook etc) dockable in main window, more flexible split modes KT (perhaps also in form of dockable and resizeable windows) etc? Have you got KT any plans about this, or is it something you didn't yet think about? Imagination can go on and on, it's not limited like working time :-) KT I would also seriously consider resigning from using one big file for KT glyphs It is possible to use several glyph files even now using BatSkin.INI. Robo will publish its format as soon as it gets formalised and documented. -- Cheers, Stefan ...Iron rusts from disuse, stagnant water loses its purity, and in cold weather becomes frozen, even so does inaction sap the vigors of the mind. - Leonardo Da Vinci pgpt5kRXqHx0c.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:48:40 PM, you wrote: The 3.0.1 Beta cycle is now closed and we are heading towards the traditional Christmas release. Here is a short list of things being addressed: [...list...] May I ask if you have assigned priorities? Which one will come first and have high priority, etc. - or let the users vote? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello. ST - Extended plug-in interface ST - Customisable toolbars (and possibly menus) ST - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition where can i find it (description or functionality)? -- Best regards, Den V. Yafyasov. The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix for the panel bug
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 11:30:04 PM you wrote: You need not to zip the file(s), TB does for you. In my case the format is RAR, don't know if it is the TB-standard or not since I use RAR. I'd rather suggest to compress nonetheless; there's solutions out there that do compress very large files into a number of smaller ones with the user specifying the upper limit, like classical floppy or a 650 MB CD (ideal for backups and archiving, particularly for large amounts of RAW files from DSLR). Of course, TB's built-in solution would smooth the work-flow a bit, nonetheless TB still does not compress, which means you still send out 70 MB instead of perhaps only 25 MB. As long as you don't try sending already compressed files like JPEGs. My compressor of choice: www.squeez.com. Current version is 4.2, a beta for 5.x is already tested. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Be contend with what you get, and what you get will be contend with you. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
Hello Paul! On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 10:45:14 PM you wrote: well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . Unfortunately I have to confirm, although I find it more annoying than stopping (me from using TB). As long as it is only a handful of us experiencing this bug RL will have a hard time getting to it. BTW, once in between (during the MSI testing over the last few days) one version lost my MT setting for which messages should be shown. I did have Normal, Low and High Priority set to show, had to re-enable High and Low one or two weeks back (the infamous lost messages non-bug) and lost the setting again. I don' remember which two versions exactly lost those but we should have an eye on that setting in the future - there seems to be an intermittent bug. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request It's never too late to start all over again. (John Kay) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS bug?
Hello Max! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 1:14:31 AM you wrote: Should we add it to BugTrack? No entries were created yet. I'd say so. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request No name calling. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Large attachements
Hello Allie! On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 11:37:52 PM you wrote: E-mail was not intended for that type of transmission and I hope when it's being done, it is only over a local LAN and via the LAN mailserver, right? These are not mails transmitted across the Internet to public servers? If the latter is the case then other means of exchanging such large files really aught to be explored. From Charlene's messages I infer she's talking about a backup copy of her own digital photographs. Especially from the field e-mail may be a viable solution, although I wouldn't do it since a lot of servers will simply delete the attachment. Many others would mangle it, all in all the chance of losing the backup is much greater with e-mail than with CDs lost through postal services. If my inference is correct, my advice is a small and rather cheap device known as Vosonic's X-Drive. It's nothing more than a slightly oversized card reader (capable of reading all flash memory cards) with a notebook HD in it. It's a two-button solution - just power it on, put in your memory card and push Transfer, 1 GB takes a few minutes. At home (or in the hotel) you connect the X-Drive via USB 2.0 to your computer and copy or load the images to it. Charlene, if you are reading this and I am right, you are welcome to contact me privately. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
Hello Dean! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 12:50:11 AM you wrote: Looking forward to the next beta cycle. And to show you that we are not dwelling on the past but looking into the future: Keep up with the work as you've done lately and we will pat [it's not easy but I'll leave the pun] you time and again! :cigar: :bat2angel: -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request There are some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em. (Louis Armstrong) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
Marcus Ohlström [MO], wrote: MO I would like to take this opportunity to thank the programmers at MO Ritlabs for a good, productive bug-squashing beta cycle. MO You have done a terrific job and I really have appreciated working MO with you both on and off list. Yes, I agree... great job by all! Ritlabs has turned things around and it's appreciated. Let's continue in this fashion. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 If a man begins with certainties, he shall end in doubt; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties. FRANCIS BACON, 1561-1626 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.1.33 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 07:25, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: The Bat! Professional should replace SecureBat! As a matter of fact, the Pro version already supports a subset of SB! features (working with tokens). Will you continue maintaining only one .exe and let the registration key decide which features to reveal, or will you release different .exes for different editions? At least for us beta testers, life would be easier if you decide to maintain just one .exe. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV in Common Filters NFS
Hæ! I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the attached AV. TB could be closed but produced an error message (telling me it produces a log). The except.log tells me: 14.10.2004 09:50:00 Records:FiltersDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address . Read of address -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.1.33 | PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +-+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web!| |http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1| +-+ attachment: av_cf.png Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Thanks for the informative reply, Stefan. On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:33:39 +0300, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: AY I hope you will find a better way to handle actions on strings of AY words like changing case. What I'm thinking of is making Ctrl+[/]\ working different if a portion of text is selected... That would be adequate. What would work just as good for me is if the normal action of, say, Ctrl+[/]\ were to cause the cursor to jump not to the end of the string but rather to the end of the string + 1 position. In most cases, that would make it very easy to change the case on multiple, consecutive words. - Adding message base encryption to the Professional Edition AY Without this, it seems like there is no significant differentiator AY between the professional and the home edition. There is - working with security tokens. I guess that I will have to study up on that. AY As a security measure, I would also like to see some more AY effective encryption of passwords. If you don't use TLS connection or at least CRAM-MD5 authentication, there is no point in stronger encryption of passwords. The only way to keep a password secure is to encrypt it with some password which should be entered on start-up. Or passwords should be kept on security tokens (which is possible with the Pro edition). Well, as I understand, the biggest security threat is an unattended computer. If someone walks up to my computer with a diskette and uses UnPass, s/he can have all of my passwords within seconds. After that, s/he could access all of my mail and who knows what else. But I am not at all an expert on this. So maybe you are right, and I am just tilting at windmills here. AY I find it disturbing that a small utility like The Bat! UnPass can AY expose all of my current passwords on TB. The size doesn't matter :-) As long as there is a programmable way to reach passwords without user's interaction, that small piece of code can be used for password extraction, no matter how complex the algorithm is. Perhaps, but couldn't it be a bit more difficult than it is now? I mean, in theory, you can also break PGP encryption, but how long will it take and how often is it done? AY Stefan, if you would publish a better job offer, then you would surely AY succeed in finding a good writer very quickly. There are many AY qualified people looking for work these days, but - as I mentioned AY before - your advertisement was not very attractive. Point taken. Examples of good offers are welcome into my PM. We will look for them in the Net, too... Looking on the Web should be sufficient. As far as I can tell, job offers generally follow a standard format. If the company is large and well-established, they probably won't mention anything about salary. Everyone will assume that the salary is comparable to market rates (and that the perks are better than average). But with smaller companies, the salary is generally specified (because people feel less secure applying for such jobs). If the salary is reasonable, it should increase the number of responses received. You can get a good idea of what elements are standard in a job offer by looking at the way this is organized at: http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ Otherwise you can go to the Website of any major company to see how they present their job offers (keeping in mind that the big companies are less likely to say anything in advance about salary). For a look at how Adobe and Microsoft do it, see: http://cooljobs.adobe.com/frameset.html?goto=er-joblist http://www.microsoft.com/careers/search/default.aspx Taking the Yahoo base as a format, if you prepare something with the following information: Position Type, Company Name, Location, Salary, Date, Experience, and a general description, I will be happy to polish the English for you so that you can distribute the job offer or add it to your Web site. If you like, you can follow this up with me by PM. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and TB Pro 3.0.1.33 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Marcus! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 9:52:59 AM you wrote: Will you continue maintaining only one .exe and let the registration key decide which features to reveal, or will you release different .exes for different editions? Yesterday I read a message from Stefan on list in which he said that the EXE will be the same but the package will be different. I presume the security/professional features will be made available through DLLs. I also remember something about differing keys. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request If you ask the government for a permit, you admit to having no right! Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing
Hail TBBETA, 1) I don't like using the mouse. 2) I have just imported an account from another copy of The Bat! (which can not run BaresIT. So I have a lot of messages I want to mark as junk. If you use the Atl menu from the keyboard when a message is highlighted then you will find it difficult to mark as junk because 1) Mark as Junk does not have a default key combo 2) There is no _ (there quick key) for the Special menu. See attached (see red underline) -- Thanks, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Your asparagus is leaking. - Nate WDSNNE| | Using The Bat ! 3.0.1.33 pro| | but crippled by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 |attachment: tb4.PNG pgpI3vA2dbkcx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Avi! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 12:18:25 AM you wrote: One of the expectations I have for the next beta cycle is a substantially improved help file. Assuming that the next beta cycle runs for at least a month, this is not an unreasonable expectation. I am not convinced that four weeks will be enough to add a sufficient help file. Substantially improved, considering the current state of the help file, would already be achieved by a list of changes since v1.38 [cum grano salis]. You are quite right that, IMAP not withstanding*, the documentation is the biggest bug for the time being. *From what I know about IMAP the server software plays an important role, something RL has no influence upon. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request People are disturbed, not by things, but by the view they take of them. (Epiktet) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing
Hello David! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 10:14:09 AM you wrote: 1) Mark as Junk does not have a default key combo But you can assign one (actually two, at least I had to do so: one for the MT folder view and one for the Preview pane). 2) There is no _ (there quick key) for the Special menu. Should be changed. Haven't had a closer look, thus I can just hope they didn't run out of letters already. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request There *is* love at first sight. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
And thank you for your message Stefan, it is appreciated :) and seconded here - Customisable toolbars (and possibly menus) My preferred one from your list. But I'd happily give it up in exchange for Manual Re-Threading. :) Sadly my preferences don't make it to this beta cycle. I'd like a roots branch reworking of addressing to make it simpler to use, improve LDAP based address books (introducing automatic lookup) and easier to manage long lists of addressees (automatic address group creation from recipient lists, automatic address group creation in filters, address autoview linked to LDAP ... etc etc) Looks like this will be 2005 at the earliest...:( -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Common Filters NFS
Hello. TN H! TN I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the TN NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the TN attached AV. TN TB could be closed but produced an error message (telling me it TN produces a log). TN The except.log tells me: 14.10.2004 09:50:00 Records:FiltersDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address . Read of address confirmed -- Best regards, Den V. Yafyasov. The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing
Hello David, 1) Mark as Junk does not have a default key combo What about Alt+S and then K from the main menu?. Seems to work, although I don't have any plugin. 2) There is no _ (there quick key) for the Special menu. Mentioned above. What about Alt+S? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Stefan, On Thursday, October 14, 2004 you wrote: KT How about more changes to interface? Like making some windows (address KT picker, addresbook etc) dockable in main window, more flexible split modes KT (perhaps also in form of dockable and resizeable windows) etc? Have you got KT any plans about this, or is it something you didn't yet think about? Imagination can go on and on, it's not limited like working time :-) Sure. But are you treating this just as an imagination or do you have any objectives in this field? It is possible to use several glyph files even now using BatSkin.INI. Robo will publish its format as soon as it gets formalised and documented. Yes, but it should be automatic -- if a glyph doesn't exist in current set, use the default one. -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG 1458144 /--/ send_key in subject. /_ :Krzysztof_Trybowski: Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB! Help (Was: Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ST (excluding help - I really do not have any idea how long would it ST take and we are still looking for writer). This is clearly a problem and one that will bemore greater as time passes; each change to the program renders the help more and more out of date. You (RitLabs) seem have trouble finding a writer and when you do s/he's going to have to have time to know the product well enough to write about it. The thing is you are awash with people that (a) know a fair bit about the product and (b) are keen to see it progress, that is the Beta Testers. Other prodcuts have had help files compiled by groups of users why not this one? You would, of course, need to do a bit of work to start with. You would, for example, want to set up - say in MS Word - templates for styles and things that your group of volunteer authors could use to produce consistant work. You'd have to provide an /in/ to the relevant programmer to answer specific questions from the authors to cover/clarify points that the user has insufficient knowledge on and your have to set up some mechanism for receipt and compilation of the help file from its constituant parts. However, I imagine that all of this would amount to much less work than writing the help file yourselves. Once the file's been written I imagine that there would be no shortage of volunteers for translation duties. What do you think - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQW4+K9ttnLhkydF1EQKQRwCfbNcADHA8UgBna7uEB5IpF3g6468AniDQ ymrsyV315avzyspwpkOPym7M =eLLq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Common Filters NFS
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, at 09:56:23 [UTC+0200] (Thursday, October 14, 2004 09:56 my local time) Thorvald Neumann wrote: I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the attached AV. Cannot confirm. I am able to create and manage common filters on both Windows 95 and Windows 2000. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 95 4.0 Build b) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 10:13, Dierk Haasis wrote: Will you continue maintaining only one .exe and let the registration key decide which features to reveal, or will you release different .exes for different editions? Yesterday I read a message from Stefan on list in which he said that the EXE will be the same but the package will be different. I presume the security/professional features will be made available through DLLs. I also remember something about differing keys. I cannot find this message. Did he speak about the current situation or about the future? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MAPI problem - TheBat replaces MAPI32.DLL
Dear TBBETA, Rumour believes that on 14 October 2004, at 10:34:05 +0200 (which was 09:34 where I live) Martin Schoch might have written In already asked in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - but have no answer yet (only the trick to rename TBMAPI.DLL - but every MSI installation restores TBMAPI.DLL again). How can I tell TheBat! to _not_ touch the MAPI system and to _not_ replace the existing MAPI32.DLL in the Windows system folder with the TBMAPI.DLL from Ritlabs? Note: TheBat! is _not_ the default email client. There must be a registry entry for TheBat! or the MAPI system which should be cleared, I think. But which one? Don't know about registry entry, but there is the the dllcache. It might be possible to add the dll into the cache so that when it get's over written windows will ask you of you want to replace the old with the new. I have not tried this so I don't know what to do with it. -- BBFN, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | I'm losing my thought of train. | pgplLchwTBjEr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:20:02 +0200, Dierk Haasis wrote: One of the expectations I have for the next beta cycle is a substantially improved help file. Assuming that the next beta cycle runs for at least a month, this is not an unreasonable expectation. I am not convinced that four weeks will be enough to add a sufficient help file. Substantially improved, considering the current state of the help file, would already be achieved by a list of changes since v1.38 [cum grano salis]. Dierk, if I might add a pinch of pepper, I don't think that a mere list of changes would meet the substantially improved standard that I have in mind. However, in principle, I do agree with you that even if RL already had a first-class, full-time technical writer on the payroll, it is unlikely that an adequate or sufficient help file would be completed within four weeks. It is very likely that there will still be a number of gaps in the documentation, perhaps marked with TBDs. That is exactly why I set my expectations to a more realistic substantially improved. You are quite right that, IMAP not withstanding*, the documentation is the biggest bug for the time being. Well, as I said to Mary, I don't see this as a bug. It falls more under the classification of a missing essential feature. But let's see what happens. Dierk, why don't you apply for the job? If you get it, then maybe I can stop complaining... or at least know whose work I am criticizing. :-) -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and TB Pro 3.0.1.33 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! Help (Was: Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s/bemore/become/ - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQW5GStttnLhkydF1EQLyKQCffkXR1DuJ77fTNQd2RN5B43kyCzAAoIE1 FiDR/qmpow2d/cM3AowY5E6B =lmt+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hi - I'd like to add another wish to the wish list: multiple mail identities. On some email accounts I have more than one domain coming into them (say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'd like to be able to associate all of these identities with the account and select the identity I'm using when creating new/replying to messages with that account. Even better, the bat should work out when I reply to a message that was addressed to one of these identities that it needs to set the identity correctly. So if I reply to an incoming message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will pre-select the identity of [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my from address. Call them account profiles I suppose. Anyone else want this? (or can you already do this? - the only way I can do it at the moment is to set up dummy accounts for all my identities) Marcus -- Marcus Williams -- http://www.quintic.co.uk Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Road, Cambridge, UK This message is private [ ] public [*] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Marcus! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 11:23:38 AM you wrote: I cannot find this message. Unfortunately I can't find it either. Perhaps it is a few days older than I remembered and already purged from my message base. Did he speak about the current situation or about the future? IIRC (and that stands to reason), his note had a futuristic tinge. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Paying for movies is like paying for sex - if it's free it feels better. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 11:40, Dierk Haasis wrote: Did he speak about the current situation or about the future? IIRC (and that stands to reason), his note had a futuristic tinge. Good to hear. Must have missed that one in the recent message storm. Thanks (if it's adequate to thank a fellow list subscriber ;-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Greetings TBBETA, The ancient mystics foretold that on 14 October 2004, at 10:37:22 +0100 (which was 10:37 where I live) Marcus Williams thoughtfully wrote the following I'd like to add another wish to the wish list: multiple mail identities. On some email accounts I have more than one domain coming into them (say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'd like to be able to associate all of these identities with the account and select the identity I'm using when creating new/replying to messages with that account. Even better, the bat should work out when I reply to a message that was addressed to one of these identities that it needs to set the identity correctly. So if I reply to an incoming message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will pre-select the identity of [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my from address. Call them account profiles I suppose. Anyone else want this? (or can you already do this? - the only way I can do it at the moment is to set up dummy accounts for all my identities) You should be able to do that all ready with the %if statement in a QT for reply. logic I would think is If (domain=abc.com) { Make from address [EMAIL PROTECTED] } else { If (domain=def.com) { Make from address [EMAIL PROTECTED] } else { Make from address [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } and pass on making it work. -- Bye, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Scotty! I've fallen and I can't beam up! | pgpAMsjI9Nns3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Marcus! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 11:44:12 AM you wrote: Good to hear. Must have missed that one in the recent message storm. Thanks (if it's adequate to thank a fellow list subscriber ;-) :grin: BTW, let's don't forget that all the folks working at RITLabs are also just list members here. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Never trust a woman who tells you her real age; if she tells you that, she'll tell you anything. (Oscar Wilde) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
On Thursday 14 October 2004 07:25 am, Dierk Haasis wrote: well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . Unfortunately I have to confirm, although I find it more annoying than stopping (me from using TB). As long as it is only a handful of us experiencing this bug RL will have a hard time getting to it. obviously it isn't a priority :) BTW, once in between (during the MSI testing over the last few days) one version lost my MT setting for which messages should be shown. I did have Normal, Low and High Priority set to show, had to re-enable High and Low one or two weeks back (the infamous lost messages non-bug) and lost the setting again. I didn't do any MSI installs until the latest release, 3.01.33 I don' remember which two versions exactly lost those but we should have an eye on that setting in the future - there seems to be an intermittent bug. I'm not sure I had those set, I'll check, next time I run it. -- Paul Cartwright registered Linux user # 367800 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
On 14/10/2004, David Elliott wrote: You should be able to do that all ready with the %if statement in a QT for reply. I've actually already done this but that only covers replying - I'd like to be able to select an identity on new messages as well. Marcus -- Marcus Williams -- http://www.quintic.co.uk Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Road, Cambridge, UK This message is private [ ] public [*] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Marcus, On 14-10-2004 12:45, you [MW] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MW I've actually already done this but that only covers replying - I'd MW like to be able to select an identity on new messages as well. A quick template easily accomplishes this: Add this to your new message template: %From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 322 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
On 14/10/2004, Peter Fjelsten wrote: A quick template easily accomplishes this: Add this to your new message template: %From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there that offers the each accounts associated address. Marcus -- Marcus Williams -- http://www.quintic.co.uk Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Road, Cambridge, UK This message is private [ ] public [*] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hello Marcus, On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:02:19 +0100GMT Marcus Williams wrote: Add this to your new message template: %From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there that offers the each accounts associated address. but you have this possibility already: look at the bottom of the edit window, the second box from right shows the active account. Right click in this box gives you the possibility to change the account. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hi, Marcus Williams wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd like a drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there that offers the each accounts associated address. You could create dummy accounts and then select the account in the editor pane. (Of course you would have to set up filters in all dummy accounts so that all sent mail gets stored in your cumulative account.) Regards, Markus -- Was man anfängt, sollte man auch zuende brin Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
On 14/10/2004, Feli Wilcke wrote: but you have this possibility already: look at the bottom of the edit window, the second box from right shows the active account. Right click in this box gives you the possibility to change the account. But I have multiple identities for any one account... so clicking on the account only gets me the from changed to that accounts associated email address. I want multiple email address to be able to be associated with a single account. Mail tools such as mutt, kmail, evolution do this and its very useful. Marcus -- Marcus Williams -- http://www.quintic.co.uk Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Road, Cambridge, UK This message is private [ ] public [*] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Marcus, On 14-10-2004 13:02, you [MW] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MW But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a MW drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there MW that offers the each accounts associated address. True but if you use these templates sensibly, you do not need to make more templates than if you had separate accounts. New message template (Identity 1): %QInclude=Your standard template with all your common options %From=your account 1 - that's all. -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 322 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
VCard Error
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 3.0.1.33 Serial Number removed for this e-mail under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 and would like to report a bug The bug description: VCard cannot be placed into the right group in the address book Steps to reproduce the bug: Create a VCard in one e-mail account. Mail the VCard to another account Open the new e-mail Click on VCard Click on Add to Address Book None of the address groups appear Does not import into the address book correctly. Regards, Ethan J. Mings PS I know VCard is old school yet it is helpful for some of my clients so please bear with me. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk 99 Bronte Road - Suite 815 Oakville, Ontario, Canada. L6L 3B7 Phone 905/825-9938 Office E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Quality Lab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Short Cuts from Alt menue are missing
Hello David, Thursday, October 14, 2004, 10:14:09 AM, among other things, you wrote: DE So I have a lot of messages I want to mark as junk. You can assign your own shortcut key combinations by using the menu called with Alt+F12. I use Alt+J for 'Mark as Junk' and Shift+Alt+J for 'Mark as NOT Junk. N.B. Alt+J is also used to set formatting, but as it is used in a different window there is no conflict. I hope this helps. -- Best regards, Roger Flying with The Bat!, version 3.0.1.33, and Bayes Filter antispam on Windows ME, version 3000, Build 90 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hi Stefan, On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 23:48 your local time, which was 21:48 my local time, Stefan Tanurkov [ST] wrote; ST - Further improving IMAP support (folder counters, automatic ST filtering, sounds, support of multiple parallel connections to a ST single server) All of the above sounds very promising and something that I am personally looking forward too immensely :-) -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hello Marcus, But only if I create templates for all my identities. I'd like a drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there that offers the each accounts associated address. Assume you have several QTs (QT1, QT2, QT3, etc.)with new message templates for your different identities. Then, create a new QT (let's call it IDENTS), or your new message template, with this content: QT1 QT2 QT3 ... When you start a new message it will be filled with the vertical list of QTs. Place your cursor at the end of the desired one (i.e QTncursor) and hit Ctrl+Space. The selected QT will be executed and your message filled in with the desired identity. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Graham, Sadly my preferences don't make it to this beta cycle. In Spain we say that it never rains to everyone's satisfaction :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
On 14/10/2004, MAU wrote: When you start a new message it will be filled with the vertical list of QTs. Place your cursor at the end of the desired one (i.e QTncursor) and hit Ctrl+Space. The selected QT will be executed and your message filled in with the desired identity. Now theres an idea will investigate this. If anyone is interested I'll post my templates somewhere if I get it working satisfactorily. Marcus -- Marcus Williams -- http://www.quintic.co.uk Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Road, Cambridge, UK This message is private [ ] public [*] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
At 13:50 [GMT+0200] on Thursday October 14 (actual time - 7:50pm on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Sadly my preferences don't make it to this beta cycle. MAU In Spain we say that it never rains to everyone's satisfaction In Australia, we say The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain. Whatever that means :-) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. Albert Einstein Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Thursday, October 14, 2004 it appears that Stefan Tanurkov wrote the following in regards to The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished: AM Do remember not downloading attachments unless they're opened or saved AM to file. ST Yes, it's also in the work list Hi Stefan. Since we're talking about things on the work list, I wonder if you all had any thoughts about adding drag/drop out of TB! to another program. I, for one, would find this very useful for harvesting email info for Zoot, ADM, Net Snippets or one of the other data gathering programs out there. Thank you for your consideration. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.1 RC7, BayesIt! 0.7.2, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hello Marcus, Now theres an idea Not just an idea but a reality. I regularly use this kind of menu of QTs for several purposes. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Mic, In Australia, we say The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain. Whatever that means :-) This is a partial quote from... ,- [ http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=35459 ] | | You can do what I call a brute force search on www.google.com using | the following phrase search (include the quotation marks): | | the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain | | We quickly find from: | | South African English Pronunciation | http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/accent.htm | | 'The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain' is a phrase reputedly | used by language teachers. Perhaps it is a good example, because it is | a vowel not found in some other languages, Russian, for example. It is | also, however, a vowel that differs in different dialects. | | Columbus World City Guide - London - Language | http://www.cityguide.travel-guides.com/cities/lon/Language.asp | | Tells us: | | Professor Higgins (Rex Harrison) famously tries to cure Eliza | Doolittle (Audrey Hepburn) of this habit in the film, My Fair Lady | (based on George Bernard Shaw's play Pygmalion), by making her recite | 'The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain' and not 'The rhine in | Spine falls minely on the pline'. | | These examples appear to indicate that this phrase exists because of | its phonetic properties, and has nothing to do with the climate in | Spain. | `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Thanks for a good beta cycle
Hello Paul, Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 3:45:14 PM, you wrote: PC well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, PC obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just PC SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much I PC can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain. PC yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . You don't happen to have a filter that has Autocreation selected do you? By this I mean a filter that is supposed to move a message to a folder that may not be there already and have it autocreate if necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on deliberately, but it is still checked. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC6 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Mic! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 3:17:40 PM you wrote: Whatever that means :-) That you can speak proper English, as long as you actually pronounce it correctly. Just ask Professor Higgins ... -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Sonar no cuesta nada (Träumen kostet nichts.). Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory leak when opening editor
On Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 10:49, Marcus Ohlström wrote: When opening MidroEd, regardless if I'm creating a new mail or answering an old, TB! leaks memory. At least 3KB of memory is allocated and not returned when closing the editor (it doesn't matter if I close it by sending the email or by cancelling it). Since I'm still on a very old beta, I would appreciate confirmations from users with current betas. I'll add a BT item as soon as someone has confirmed the memory leak. This is even worse now, according to my Task Manager, TB!'s memory usage goes up between 5-7MB each time I open the MicroEd. In addition, 5-7MB of virtual memory is reported as lost too. Any confirmations or comments before I add to the BT? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory leak when opening editor
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:01, Marcus Ohlström wrote: This is even worse now, according to my Task Manager, TB!'s memory usage goes up between 5-7MB each time I open the MicroEd. In addition, 5-7MB of virtual memory is reported as lost too. When trying after sending the mail, I could not reproduce it myself, not even after a restart of TB!. Strange. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 22:48, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: /.../ This is not a promise, this is our working list. Stefan, I cannot resist reminding you of an email you sent January 20 this year ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ,- | MO While you're here and we are talking address books, may I ask about the | MO status of the purge routine for address books reported at | MO https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002333 | | It's assigned :-) | | It will be addressed as soon as we deal with other fixes in our plan... `- Please? According to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=0003643 it is an even bigger problem then I first described since it is not only related to deletion of addresses. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore
Dear all, So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is out of balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory is used at arround 46% (using 256 MB RAM). I can try what ever combination but it wont get better. - Currently I'm using v3.0.1.33 with /NO/ plug-in at all. - TB! wont leave my Memory when closing. - When restarting TB! it has not stored the last display features and I must all set them by hand. (see picture) - Once I closed TB! (but did not remove it from Memory by hand) and rebooted. I then got an AV. I was not able in writing the Value as the re-boot process cleared the AV-window. At this moment I can't work properly with TB! open as the high CPU is blocking proper usage of CPU from other applications. In two instances it even crashed my System. As I have jet not installed the latest Version release yesterday I still as you folk to have a look into it. All my cry the last few days has not given any result. I want to ask RL and other to give me a hand in this problem. You on your side seems to be happy with your Version. -- best regards www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Wishing
Hello TBBETA Members! Two wishes I had for some time: 1. A keyboard shortcut to open the MT folder view when the MT shows messages. (Or did I simply overlook it?) 2. I'd really like to use more than one dictionary at once (like Word can), since I use German and English in the same message lots of the time. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Der Erfolg besteht manchmal in der Kunst, das für sich zu behalten, was man nicht weiß. (Sir Peter Ustinov) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wishing
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:24, Dierk Haasis wrote: 1. A keyboard shortcut to open the MT folder view when the MT shows messages. (Or did I simply overlook it?) Yes, you overlooked Options | Preferences | System hot keys. I use ctrl-shift-r. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wishing
Hello Marcus! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 4:29:34 PM you wrote: Yes, you overlooked Options | Preferences | System hot keys. I use ctrl-shift-r. D'uh! Now that's a way to wake up - in the late afternoon. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request A regulation can be for a fool to obey and a wise man to break. (Sir Hugh Trenchard) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore
Hello Eddie, Thursday, October 14, 2004, 10:24:24 AM, you wrote: EC Dear all, EC So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is out EC of balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory is used EC at arround 46% (using 256 MB RAM). I can try what ever combination but EC it wont get better. snip A lot of this was addressed in the rc's. Please install the final released version and see if this still is the case. -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Dierk Haasis, On 14-10-2004, at 11:40 (local time here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately I can't find it either. Perhaps it is a few days older than I remembered and already purged from my message base. Message was in fact from Max, I believe. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, M. Diaz Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore
Dear Eddie, -- Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2004, 16:24:24: So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is out of balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory is used Forgotten the URL for the picture http://www.EddieCastelli.com/pub/thebat/rc6-to/20041014_TB!v30133-StartUp.gif -- best regards www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:35, Manuel Diaz wrote: Unfortunately I can't find it either. Perhaps it is a few days older than I remembered and already purged from my message base. Message was in fact from Max, I believe. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing mentioned about future versions. Anyone from Ritlabs want's to reveal your plans, or should we just wait and see? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wishing
Hello Dierk, 2. I'd really like to use more than one dictionary at once (like Word can), since I use German and English in the same message lots of the time. That'd be really nice since I some times mix English and Spanish. My goodold Virtual Access mail client/newsreader had that capability mny years ago. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Manuel! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 4:35:46 PM you wrote: Message was in fact from Max, I believe. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No wonder I couldn't find it. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Die letzte Stimme, die man hört, bevor die Welt explodiert, wird die Stimme eines Experten sein, der sagt: 'Das ist technisch unmöglich!' (Sir Peter Ustinov) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Marcus! On Thursday, October 14, 2004 at 4:47:29 PM you wrote: Nothing mentioned about future versions. Anyone from Ritlabs want's to reveal your plans, or should we just wait and see? From context I inferred that he meant the future differences between Home and Pro as there wasn't one at the time asked (at least none we knew of)?! -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Die Bibel sagt, Du sollst Deinen Nächsten lieben. Ich bin überzeugt, dass sie meinen Nachbarn nicht kennt. (Sir Peter Ustinov) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:54, Dierk Haasis wrote: Nothing mentioned about future versions. Anyone from Ritlabs want's to reveal your plans, or should we just wait and see? From context I inferred that he meant the future differences between Home and Pro as there wasn't one at the time asked (at least none we knew of)?! There is and has been for a while (see for example mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), which of course points to the direction that the two versions will be kept in the same .exe even in the future. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Whishlist item
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wish I could go back to messages I've recently read; trying to find one message in a long thread when you've jumped to another is difficult. Another app I used to use recorded the location of all messages that were read in that session and at any point you could hit backspace to move through the history list. I'd be happy if TB! just recorded the location of the last 10 or so and made this list accessible from, say, the context menu. Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list? - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com A hangover is the wrath of grapes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQW5WpNttnLhkydF1EQL2iACfXyGetaQxlMLH7B0YFhTA+c+1MY0AoOTx kEt0kmz4TyytY/uIHMu7WvuM =L1im -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hello TBBETA, Rumour believes that on 14 October 2004, at 12:49:13 +0200 (which was 11:49 where I live) Peter Fjelsten wrote MW I've actually already done this but that only covers replying - I'd MW like to be able to select an identity on new messages as well. A quick template easily accomplishes this: Add this to your new message template: %From=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do this with different QT. sigwork %ACCOUNT=David @ Work4theweb.com %FROM=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] %REPLYTO=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] %ORG=DEAL sigell %ACCOUNT=David @ Work4theweb.com %FROM=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] %REPLYTO=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] %ORG=DEAL -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Kirk's girlfriends always look good in soft light. | pgpceDktgNF4c.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Whishlist item
Hello shemming, Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list? I certainly do. My googold VA (Virtual Access) that I have mentioned in another post today did this mny years ago -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Wierd HTML rendering
Hello all, As the list server blocked a message I sent because of the size of the attachment, I have just opened a BT report without waiting for any confirmation. If you'd care to take a look: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3931 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
autocreate, WAS- Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
On Thursday 14 October 2004 01:53 pm, Stuart Cuddy wrote: PC well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, PC obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just PC SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much I PC can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain. PC yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . You don't happen to have a filter that has Autocreation selected do you? By this I mean a filter that is supposed to move a message to a folder that may not be there already and have it autocreate if necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on deliberately, but it is still checked. I have quite a few filters with autocreate turned on, why??? -- Paul Cartwright registered Linux user # 367800 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Whishlist item
Thursday, October 14, 2004, 4:42:05 PM, MAU wrote: Hello shemming, Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list? I certainly do. My googold VA (Virtual Access) that I have mentioned in another post today did this mny years ago me too -- Tim Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Wrapped .33
10/14/2004 MB I really didn't think that I had the computer skills to be able to MB contribute, among the really able people on a list where I'd been MB lurking for awhile. Beta testing is less a matter of computer skills per se, than it is a matter of using the software enough to find out where it breaks, and being willing to document what happened and where. Well, and taking the risk that something will break that will require some technical expertise in the recovery, but that's not going to happen here, eh? lol! I should probably not be doing it, for lack of time, but the only problems I'm having at the moment (.33 loaded fine, only one entry in the add/remove programs list, haven't seen the other problems people have been having) is with the NFS, but as that may be operator error, I'm still tweaking it. Nothing but party, party, party :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1.33 NT5 SP4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore
Hello Eddie Castelli everyone else 14-Okt-2004 16:24, you wrote: So since I tried this very strange 'msi 3rc6 Version' my System is out of balance. Means, the CPU is running at 100% where the Memory is used at arround 46% (using 256 MB RAM). I can try what ever combination but it wont get better. And are you using 3.0.1.33 now? This is the 3.01 release version. If I were you... I'd... 1. copy the entire TB folder somewhere safe 2. backup the registry settings 3. make a backup from within TB 4. uninstall TB 5. wipe *anything* left from the installation (especially check if you still have entries in the control panel, add/remove programs, remaining files, plugins, registry entries and whatever else) 6. make a clean re-install do NOT yet restore your backup 7. freshly create your account(s) in TB 8. check what happens If the error occurs again now, your system is corrupted somehow... If it doesn't happen with a clean re-install fresh account data, its something with your TB files, or the TB registry entries. Try restoring your backup you made with the internal backup utility. If it still works, it was your registry, it not... uh-oh... how could we find the faulty message, or folder, or whatever it may be? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Le Lotus Bleu (Dragon's Breath Mix) by Total Eclipse from the 1995 album 'Deep Trance Ritual Beats (CD 1)' Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in Common Filters NFS
Hello Thorvald Neumann everyone else 14-Okt-2004 09:56, you wrote: I just got an AV when creating Common Filters. I could not close the NFS window nor click on any of the common filters. This provides the attached AV. No problem here. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Cortex by Source Experience from the 1995 album 'Deep Trance Ritual Beats (CD 1)' Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
10/14/2004 ST - Further bug fixing, of course :-) Here's a trivial one I just discovered .. the up/down/in/out buttons on the NFS window don't show alternate glyphs if you are using them. But thanks for getting them in .. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1.33 NT5 SP4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote: Now theres an idea Not just an idea but a reality. I regularly use this kind of menu of QTs for several purposes. Don't forget that you can apply QT's by typing the handle and then hitting CTRLSpaceBar. I do this to change identities and signatures all the time. It can be faster, especially since your hands may already be on the keyboard. -- -= Allie =- . Oxymoron: Random Order. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: autocreate, WAS- Re: Thanks for a good beta cycle
Hello Paul, Thursday, October 14, 2004, 7:00:14 AM, you wrote: PC well, maybe so, but my one huge Mail ticker bug is still there, PC obnoxious as ever and totally ruins my email attitude. I tend to just PC SHIFT-DEL all messages in all threads, because it skips around so much I PC can't follow a D*** thread without getting eyestrain. PC yes, it is still there with 3.0.1.33 . You don't happen to have a filter that has Autocreation selected do you? By this I mean a filter that is supposed to move a message to a folder that may not be there already and have it autocreate if necessary. From another post you may not have had to turn this on deliberately, but it is still checked. PC I have quite a few filters with autocreate turned on, why??? See the following bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3924 This appears to be causing some odd jumping, admittedly not in Mail Ticker, but it may be related. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC6 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Stefan, Thursday, October 14, 2004, 4:48:40 AM, you wrote: ST The 3.0.1 Beta cycle is now closed and we are heading towards the ST traditional Christmas release. Here is a short list of things being ST addressed: ST - Improving support of Internaional character sets (proper handling ST of UTF-*, DBCS and Middle East languages) Great news!! ST - Improved Windows-compatible editor (proper wrapping, more ST functionality from MicroEd plus UNICODE support) Please don't forget SmartBat. I'd like to use it to replace the NotePad. But it does not support DBCS/unicode currently... :( -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Since msi-v3rc6 my CPU wont cool anymore
Dear Alexander, -- Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2004, 18:24:37: And are you using 3.0.1.33 now? This is the 3.01 release version. Yes to your question. I just downloaded the latest release and saw that it's the same as I downloaded yesterday. If I were you... I'd... Your answer is far the best for a long time that it seams to make sense to me. Please no offend to all others. Let me as some questions to have it got right: 1. copy the entire TB folder somewhere safe you mean the apps folder or the data folder? 2. backup the registry settings will do ... 3. make a backup from within TB will do also ... Any thing I have to consider? I've never used this feature. 4. uninstall TB ok ... 5. wipe *anything* left from the installation (especially check if you still have entries in the control panel, add/remove programs, remaining files, plugins, registry entries and whatever else) Control Panel? which one is this (I run a German version) 6. make a clean re-install do NOT yet restore your backup ok! 7. freshly create your account(s) in TB is one enough or all of them? 8. check what happens Will report back! If the error occurs again now, your system is corrupted somehow... hope not /finger crossed/ If it doesn't happen with a clean re-install fresh account data, its something with your TB files, or the TB registry entries. Try restoring your backup you made with the internal backup utility. If it still works, it was your registry, it not... uh-oh... how could we find the faulty message, or folder, or whatever it may be? hope not either as there are so many of them /double crossing my fingers/ -- best regards www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Whishlist item
Hello shemming, On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sec I wish I could go back to messages I've recently read; trying to find sec one message in a long thread when you've jumped to another is sec difficult. sec Anyone think this is worth adding to the wish list? Very much so. AMEOL has this facility in its menu. Just hit the backspace and it scrolls through all the messages or right click on the message pane and you can select which message you want to go back to as all the details are there. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | and the best browser: Opera 7.60 build 7141 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE pgpc8d9dt6eLj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
I guess it is wishlist time!
Hello tbbeta, Years ago I requested a feature: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1999 I would like a field added to address book entries to show the last edit date and ideally a change log. Any thoughts and especially support would be appreciated. -- Best regards, MFAS Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
Hello Lynn, Here's a trivial one I just discovered .. the up/down/in/out buttons on the NFS window don't show alternate glyphs if you are using them. That's not a bug. The many alternate glyphs.bmp need to be updated to add an extra row for the missing icons. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hello Allie, Don't forget that you can apply QT's by typing the handle and then hitting CTRLSpaceBar. No, I don't forget that. What I forget is the names of the many QTs I have :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wishing
Bonjour Dierk, Il est indéniable que Dierk Haasis a proféré le jeudi 14 octobre 2004 à 16:24:15 GMT +0200 DH 2. I'd really like to use more than one dictionary at once (like DH Word can), since I use German and English in the same message DH lots of the time. About two years ago (possibly more) I sent a similar wish but had no reaction neither from TheBat guys nor from other users. I'm glad to hear that I wasn't the only one to wish this feature (available in Poco Mail for example). I guess plenty of us have to write their mails using two different tongues (German and French in my case). I don't know whether the spelling module used by TheBat (Sentry Spelling-Checker Engine) allows it, but I'd love to see this feature implemented soon. -- Best regards FRANCIS Webpage: http://faustroll.net, http://butsu.org PGP-Key: http://www.segond.de/pubkey/segond.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Now - try this...
Hello beta testers. By change I stumbled over this - is it TB!, Windows or something else that does this: 1. RTV 2. Focus in the message preview pane 3. Ctrl + and Ctrl - on numerical part of the keyboard Here the font size of the message pane changes (larger/smaller). Hidden feature or something set up on my PC? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Whishlist item
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 12:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish I could go back to messages I've recently read; trying to find one message in a long thread when you've jumped to another is difficult. You can do this by hitting alt-left arrow. Couldn't live without it. It does not seem to be able to jump between accounts though, but that's good enough for me. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now - try this...
10/14/2004 PF 1. RTV PF 2. Focus in the message preview pane PF 3. Ctrl + and Ctrl - on numerical part of the keyboard PF Here the font size of the message pane changes (larger/smaller). PF Hidden feature or something set up on my PC? Interesting! It puts the master volume up and down on mine .. no change in the fonts ... -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1.33 NT5 SP4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now - try this...
Hello Zeynel, Thursday, October 14, 2004, 8:22:38 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Thursday, October 14, 2004, 8:08:07 PM, you wrote: PF Hidden feature or something set up on my PC? It does the same function here. It seems you've just found an undiscovered feature (at least by me). The degree of magnification and reduction is very large indeed. That's very useful. Personally, I like it. -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now - try this...
Hello Peter, Thursday, October 14, 2004, 7:08:07 PM, you wrote: PF Hello beta testers. PF By change I stumbled over this - is it TB!, Windows or something else PF that does this: PF 1. RTV PF 2. Focus in the message preview pane PF 3. Ctrl + and Ctrl - on numerical part of the keyboard PF Here the font size of the message pane changes (larger/smaller). PF Hidden feature or something set up on my PC? normal windows behavior - also works in word excel etc -- Best regards, Krzysztofmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat 3.0.1.33 @ Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Whishlist item
Hello Marcus, You can do this by hitting alt-left arrow. Couldn't live without it. It does not seem to be able to jump between accounts though, but that's good enough for me. H, how long have you been using this? I seem to recall that it was going back just _one_ message for me. But then, I have upgraded BT so many times in the past couple of months. I upgraded to 2.12 just about 2 months ago. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
PGP bug revisited
Hello TBBETA Members! Anybody remember the problem where CKT versions of PGP didn't correctly decode special characters, like German umlauts becoming Hex-code? Quick rehash: CKT builds are usable with TB via plug-in; there has been one way back by RL, which was later superseded by one programmed between RL and Imad Faiad (who apparently has retired). For years everything worked fine until some day we were presented with messages that upon decrypting showed Hex-code instead of special characters. For use with TB I went to GPG with GPGShell, both of which I updated today. Unfortunately GPG showed me a message of no trust because not signed for keys that have been signed and trusted [awkward grammar intended] by me. So I reverted to PGP 6.5.8CKT and still found the special character bug. Is there a chance this bug will be hunted down? And either solved or validly identified as a problem of PGP CKT? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Don't let a little dispute injure a friendship. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: fix for the panel bug
Hi Dierk Haasis, Thursday, October 14, 2004 you put on your sharpest glasses and informed me -us-: I'd rather suggest to compress nonetheless; there's solutions out there that do compress very large files into a number of smaller ones with the user specifying the upper limit, like classical floppy or a 650 MB CD (ideal for backups and archiving, particularly for large amounts of RAW files from DSLR). Since I was recipient that time, I could not have any influence on that. I personally do compress by RAR. In earlier versions of TB it was implemented in the process of splitting, at least that's what I guess. The attachments in fact were all *.rar files -so I think TB is a smart one ;-) Now, a couple of weeks ago, I see no attachment at all. Seems to be empty, and TB freezes. Yesterday I found out, that it is not necessarily a TB-problem alone. Just for the thrill of it I reinstalled my V 2.04 and had the same crash. But I know id did work weeks ago. Maybe the upgrading to Win XP SP2 has something to do with it; heard of a feature that now allows Windows to remember the downloaded nature of a file that came from the Web and may therefor be a potential threat. You can read a lot of things about what SP2 does with windows, so maybe I am not completely wrong. But after last night I will not blame TB for the flaw alone anymore. Of course, TB's built-in solution would smooth the work-flow a bit, nonetheless TB still does not compress, which means you still send out 70 MB instead of perhaps only 25 MB. The files I send are compressed and stored as one file, sent by TB in pieces and hopefully reassembled on the recipient's side. My compressor of choice: www.squeez.com. Current version is 4.2, a beta for 5.x is already tested. I think I will take a look at it, thank you for your effort! -- greetings Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/