Re: Notebook and numerical pad hotkeys

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Simon!

On Friday, November 1, 2002 at 2:20:59 AM you wrote:

> I can expand a whole thread using Ctrl+Shift and the +/= key and to close it
> again Ctrl+Shift and the _/- key  if that's any help

Sadly doesn`t work here.



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Re: Blank e-mails... has *anyone* ever had this before?

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Anne,

@1-Nov-2002, 03:14 Anne [A] in
mid:1137296832.20021101031439@;gmx.co.uk said:

 ... 

MDP>> This kind of thing can happen when the blank line between
MDP>> headers and body goes AWOL en-route.

A> But is that likely to have happened on *every* e-mail I've sent
A> them in 2 months though?

Only if one their inbound routers is doing the deed. Then it would
be inconsistent for it /not/ to happen. Mind you, they responded to
your last mail. That makes a lie of the rest of it. I'll bet they
"filed" them.

MDP>> Why not try to MIME forward (Alternative forward) all the
MDP>> messages you sent them to date. 

A> ... I'll hang fire until I see if they reply to my mail of today,
A> and then let them have the entire barrage ;-)

G'luck.

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Re: Re[2]: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Nigel S Smith]

Shaun,
Thanks for this bit of lateral thinking - I hadn't realised that you could
sort mail in this way at the server - it does make sense for it to be done
at the Demon end.
For info, your guess at the way to do it is nearly right., just the other
way round - so the username would be "nigel+webbit", etc.

The only fly in the ointment with this method is that mail being sent to an
unkonwn user e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], would never be collected,
whereas, at the moment unrecognised user names are sent to my account by
default (I'm currently using Turnpike which handles this). Do you know of
an option for picking up mail for everyone except the specified users?
(might be something like "-nigel-gillian-lynsey-simon+webbit", so mail for
all other users is picked up).

I know it's not a big deal so won't stop me using this method - it's just a
thought.

Thanks Nigel.






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To:   "Joseph N." > However, as all of our email comes from the same POP3 server, at the
same
>> time (no matter which user downloads it), it needs to be sorted into the
>> repective Inboxes for each user.

Demon will let you specify a user name in the pop3 authentication so
that it will only download that user's email. I can't remember the
exact syntax, but I think you specify something like "webbit+nigel" as
the user name in the pop3 authentication (see Demon's web site for
exact details).

In TB, you would then create 4 separate accounts and have each setup
with their specific pop3 details ("webbit+gillian", "webbit+lynsey",
etc).

Essentially this moves the sorting to Demon's end and each user only
has to download mail specifically for them.

If you want to continue with TB doing the sorting, you need to go to
the Accounts->Sorting office/Filters options and add a new incoming
mail filter for each of the other three users (set filter string
to the user name and a location of "Recipient") and get it to move the
email to the Inbox of the relevant user (click the button next to the
"Move message to folder" box).

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Re: Notebook and numerical pad hotkeys

[Allie C Martin]

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In ,
Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:'

DH>   I know, it`seen asked more than once but ...

DH>   How to open all threads when one hasn`t a numerical pad?

I use the function key with the respective function buttons.

CTRL-* is just CTRL-Fn-0/*

CTRL-Shift-* is Fn-CTRL-Shift-0/*

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Re: Notebook and numerical pad hotkeys

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Dierk,

>> I can expand a whole thread using Ctrl+Shift and the +/= key and to close it
>> again Ctrl+Shift and the _/- key  if that's any help
>
> Sadly doesn`t work here.

I was going to say "Remember there is View/Edit Shortcuts. You can
define what is most convenient for you". But no, I have looked and
this shortcut isn't available :-(

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Re[2]: Message creation from body text filter

[Marcus]

Friday, November 1, 2002, 2:06:32 AM, you wrote:

Hi Marck,

Marck> You don't need any. This is *exactly* what you're looking for. Make
Marck> each sub-extraction a quick template and QINCLUDE them at will
Marck> throughout your template.

Hmmm, there's probably something about quick templates I've
not understood yet. The following works, but what do I need
to set up so that the result appears without quotes?

I'm inside the received mail as a reply, and now I want to
run the template:

%QUOTES="%SETPATTREGEXP=""Name:\s+(\S+).*""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%TEXT""Dear 
%SUBPATT=""1"",

I don't understand how %QINCLUDE works yet. The help file
seems sketchy on that, it just drops hints.


Marck> If you're really stuck, TBTECH is the place to find help writing so
Marck> complex an extraction template.

Okay, I'd better join that list then too.

Thanks,

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Re: Notebook and numerical pad hotkeys

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Allie!

On Friday, November 1, 2002 at 12:20:12 PM you wrote:

> CTRL-* is just CTRL-Fn-0/*

> CTRL-Shift-* is Fn-CTRL-Shift-0/*

Tried that, didn`t work. But I found out that I have can invoke a
numerical pad o this machine. I will try that later.





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Re: Message creation from body text filter

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Marcus,

@1-Nov-2002, 12:45 +0100 (11:45 UK time) Marcus [M] in
mid:1393905565.20021101124542@;wordit.com said:

M> Hmmm, there's probably something about quick templates I've not
M> understood yet. The following works, but what do I need to set up
M> so that the result appears without quotes?

erm... nothing to do with QT's, but more to do with macros. Just
remove the %QUOTES= bit!

M> I'm inside the received mail as a reply, and now I want to run
M> the template:

M> %QUOTES="%SETPATTREGEXP=""Name:\s+(\S+).*""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%TEXT""Dear
M> %SUBPATT=""1"",

You just need to do this in the reply template:

%SETPATTREGEXP="Name:\s+(\S+).*"%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%TEXT"Dear %SUBPATT="1",

M> I don't understand how %QINCLUDE works yet. The help file seems
M> sketchy on that, it just drops hints.

It's very simple. Create a new QT. Call it "GetName". Put the above
macro snippet in it. Now, in your reply template, just put this:

%QINCLUDE="GetName"

That's it. That way, if you needed to repeat the extracted name
anywhere further down in the reply, you simply repeat the QINCLUDE
command.

Marck>> If you're really stuck, TBTECH is the place to find help
Marck>> writing so complex an extraction template.

M> Okay, I'd better join that list then too.

See you there ;-).

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Re[4]: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Shaun]

NSS> The only fly in the ointment with this method is that mail being sent to an
NSS> unkonwn user e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], would never be collected,
NSS> whereas, at the moment unrecognised user names are sent to my account by
NSS> default (I'm currently using Turnpike which handles this). Do you know of
NSS> an option for picking up mail for everyone except the specified users?
NSS> (might be something like "-nigel-gillian-lynsey-simon+webbit", so mail for
NSS> all other users is picked up).

I do seem to remember there being some more advanced syntax like you
describe, but I'm afraid I can't remember exactly what it is (I have
cable now, so haven't used Demon for a while).

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Re[2]: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template

[Deborah W]

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, 10:32:41 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

DW>> when I start a new message, the account used doesn't change to the
DW>> one I've specified.

RO> Does the rest of the template get used or is the full template
RO> ignored?

The rest of the template gets used. As soon as I tab to or click in
the text area of the email, the rest of the macro jumps in without any
problems.

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Paul Cartwright]

On Friday, November 1, 2002, 6:11 AM, you wrote:

ound - so the username would be "nigel+webbit", etc.

NSS> The only fly in the ointment with this method is that mail being sent to an
NSS> unkonwn user e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], would never be collected,
NSS> whereas, at the moment unrecognised user names are sent to my account by
NSS> default (I'm currently using Turnpike which handles this). Do you know of
NSS> an option for picking up mail for everyone except the specified users?
NSS> (might be something like "-nigel-gillian-lynsey-simon+webbit", so mail for
NSS> all other users is picked up).

couldn't you use the "dispatch mail on server" function to check and see
if any other mail is still left?
if you create filters for specific users, and continue with other
filters, shouldn't the REST of the mail go into the inbox? ( or SPAM, or
wherever you have the rest of the mail go)


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Re: Problems double-clicking Ticker

[Tim Musson]

Hey Allie,

My MUA believes '(X-Mailer not set)' was used
to write mid:6236639234.20021031163402@;landscreek.net
on Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 4:34:02 PM.

CM>> The same here. A doubleclick on a mail in the MessageTicker very
CM>> often does not open the Message. Strange.

ACM> This is normal behaviour for the ticker. It will not open unless the
ACM> left edge of the first message entry has scrolled out of view past
ACM> the left edge of the ticker.

Interesting, will see if that is the problem here (not sure as my MT
is about 1" wide and scrolls the first msg in about 15 sec...).  I
know I don't usually get to it that fast. :-)

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Re: Problems double-clicking Ticker

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Friday, November 1, 2002, 13:35, Tim Musson wrote:

ACM>> This is normal behaviour for the ticker. It will not open unless
ACM>> the left edge of the first message entry has scrolled out of view
ACM>> past the left edge of the ticker.

> Interesting, will see if that is the problem here (not sure as my MT
> is about 1" wide and scrolls the first msg in about 15 sec...).  I
> know I don't usually get to it that fast. :-)

It's not about how fast you are but when you try double clicking the MT.
As soon as the last message has scrolled out to the left, you have to
wait until the first message touches the left border again.

In other words, it's not just a one time problem, it occurs every time
the MT has cycled through all messages.

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Re: Notebook and numerical pad hotkeys

[Tim Musson]

Hey Dierk,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta6) Personal' was used
to write mid:943883564.20021101125046@;gmx.net
on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 6:50:46 AM.

DH> Tried that, didn`t work. But I found out that I have can invoke a
DH> numerical pad o this machine. I will try that later.

That works here on my ThinkPad, but it is a pain. btw, I have not
found a way, so if anyone has one... 

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Re: sorry about the top-post

[Tim Musson]

Hey Vishal,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used
to write mid:15311707113.20021031184640@;myrealbox.com
on Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 9:46:40 PM.

8< snip

MAU>> No dessert for you tonight! ;-)

VN> I know. I'm badd :) find me a hole so i can lie down and die
VN> in it.

VN> -vishal


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The one you want to watch out for is the 'Cut' mark. I think that is
part of the list rules... :-]

,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a "Cut Mark"]
| This is a "special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of
| two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line".
| 
| 
| 
| This "cut mark" is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a
| cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of
| your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is
| removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that
| includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark
| from the text you quote.
`- [see FAQ @ ]

Reply to my message and notice everything below this sentence is gone
in your reply...

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Re: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template

[Gerard]

ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 12:44:16 PM, you wrote:

DW> The rest of the template gets used. As soon as I tab to or click in
DW> the text area of the email, the rest of the macro jumps in without any
DW> problems.


Hi Deborah,
I hate to tell you this, but this is normal behaviour. You have to fill
in the "variables" before the "calculation" can be made.
In other words, you have to tell which person it is being send to before
TB! knows which template (account/folder/addressbook) to use.

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Re: Problems double-clicking Ticker

[Tim Musson]

Hey Marcus,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta7) Personal' was used
to write mid:1177381944.20021101134412@;canit.se
on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 7:44:12 AM.

MO> It's not about how fast you are but when you try double clicking
MO> the MT. As soon as the last message has scrolled out to the left,
MO> you have to wait until the first message touches the left border
MO> again.

Yes, I got that, what I meant was that I did not get to the MT as soon
as it popped up...

MO> In other words, it's not just a one time problem, it occurs every time
MO> the MT has cycled through all messages.

Well, I just forced it and what you describe is how it seems to work.
Thanks!

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Re: tricky one - filtering out messages with NO subject?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hi Roelof,

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:42:58 +0100
Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> How do I filter out all the messages from this person with a blank
>> subject line into one folder, and those with any kind of text in
>> the subject line into another?
> 
> Try filtering for a|b|c|d|e|f|g|h|i|j|k|l|m|n|o|p|q|r|s|t|u|v|w|x|y|z
> in the subject. (Don't know whether you've got to enable regexp for
> this)

You'll have to, as the 'alternate', indicated by the pipe symbol, is a
regular expression specific one.
BTW: the shorter form of above if [a-z] ;-)))

> Or enable regexp and check for .* in the subject. (I guess that
> this will also catch multiple space as a non-empty subject.)

.* will catch even . It stand for 'every character, except new
line' with a qunatification of 'zero or more times'.

So to catch a string containing at least one character (philosohically
question: beside in terms of programming, is an empty string really a
string? :-) ) the correct regular expression is

.+

every character, one or more times :-) Of course this includes a subject
containing only one or more spaces and nothing else.

So to trigger only on a string containg at least one none-space
characters you can use

[^ ]+

means: a character of class ([]) "not space" (^ ) one or more times.
Or in extendes regular expressions (PCRE) as the one The Bat! makes use
of:

\S+

means: one or 'non-whitespace character'. 'whitespaces' are space, tab,
"carriage return" and "new line".

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Cut mark

[Gerard]

Hi Bat Users,

I have always thought that a cut mark should be dash-dash-space-return.
However, I have found that TB! also regards any line of dashes as a cut
mark.

This below would be seen as a cut mark
---
Which is a pain is some one wants to reply using the text below this line
as well. Does this happen, you ask. Yes for instance when you sent a
calculation like this

 67.23
155.--
 +
222.23

I would like to think this is a bug and see it filed as such.

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Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Mary Bull]

Hello tbudl listers,

My sister sent me a FWD re a genealogy file. Since I thought it was an
attachment, I enabled Rich Text/html in the viewer. Opened the message
and it came up as a page full of little squares.

I decided to reply to her and ask her to re-send, so I could re-open
it in much-maligned OE. In Reply (Edit Message) all the squares became
a genealogy communique as a normal text e-mail, and I read how a
newly-found umpteenth cousin thought she had tied a triple
great-grandmother into our line.

Question: Is this normal tbudl behavior?

I received two separate Forwarded messages that operated the same way
this morning from my sister.

(It's really great that they will open in Reply. Now I can start
keeping the genealogy files in TB.) But does anyone know why I get
boxes in the originally opened message?

Thanks to all of you, my favorite solvers of mysteries, in advance,

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Re[2]: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template

[Deborah W]

On Friday, November 1, 2002, 12:47:44 PM, Gerard wrote:

G> Hi Deborah,
G> I hate to tell you this, but this is normal behaviour. You have to fill
G> in the "variables" before the "calculation" can be made.
G> In other words, you have to tell which person it is being send to before
G> TB! knows which template (account/folder/addressbook) to use.

Yes, I understand that. The point is that, when I double-click on the
name in the AB, the template works in its entirety - including the
%ACCOUNT bit. However when I use Ctrl-N or the toolbar button to start
a new email, the rest of the template works as above, but the account
remains whichever account I happen to be located in at the time - iow,
the %ACCOUNT portion of the templates does *not* function then.

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Re: Cut mark

[Tim Musson]

Hey Gerard,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Business' was used
to write mid:17620482602.20021101140559@;myrealbox.com
on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 8:05:59 AM.

G> Hi Bat Users,

G> I have always thought that a cut mark should be dash-dash-space-return.
G> However, I have found that TB! also regards any line of dashes as a cut
G> mark.

G> This below would be seen as a cut mark
G> ---
G> Which is a pain is some one wants to reply using the text below this line
G> as well. Does this happen, you ask. Yes for instance when you sent a
G> calculation like this

G>  67.23
G> 155.--
G>  +
G> 222.23

G> I would like to think this is a bug and see it filed as such.


I don't see a problem. This is just a standard reply (Ctrl+F5) w/ no
cutting...

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Nigel S Smith]

Hi Paul,
I may have mis-understood your idea, but if I get all remaining mail, and
have filters to sort it, I might as well just get everyone's in the first
place - something I would have liked to avoid.
Or have I missed something?
Thanks,
Nigel.






Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@thebat.dutaint.com on
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Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:   Nigel S Smith  The only fly in the ointment with this method is that mail being sent
to an
NSS> unkonwn user e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], would never be
collected,
NSS> whereas, at the moment unrecognised user names are sent to my account
by
NSS> default (I'm currently using Turnpike which handles this). Do you know
of
NSS> an option for picking up mail for everyone except the specified users?
NSS> (might be something like "-nigel-gillian-lynsey-simon+webbit", so mail
for
NSS> all other users is picked up).

couldn't you use the "dispatch mail on server" function to check and see
if any other mail is still left?
if you create filters for specific users, and continue with other
filters, shouldn't the REST of the mail go into the inbox? ( or SPAM, or
wherever you have the rest of the mail go)


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Re: Cut mark

[Peter Fjelsten]

Gerard,

On 01-11-2002 14:05, you [G] wrote in
:
G> I have always thought that a cut mark should be
G> dash-dash-space-return. However, I have found that TB! also regards
G> any line of dashes as a cut mark.

It doesn't here.

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Re: Cut mark

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Gerard,

@1-Nov-2002, 14:05 +0100 (13:05 UK time) Gerard [G] in
mid:17620482602.20021101140559@;myrealbox.com said:

G> This below would be seen as a cut mark
G> ---

 ... 

G> I would like to think this is a bug and see it filed as such.

Are you sure you're not using one of the SigStrip macros? They are
set up to cut various alternative combinations...

Alternatively, you could always use one that left lines of dashes
intact.

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Re: Regular expressions

[Tim Musson]

Hey Robin,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta7) Personal' was used
to write mid:682621529.20021101101628@;netspace.net.au
on Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 6:16:28 PM.

RA> TBUDL members

RA> I am keen to try to come to grips with TB's regex capability. However
RA> when I looked to the help file I decided that, like most manuals, its
RA> good to remind you of what you already know, but not much use for a
RA> beginner.

RA> Can anyone point me to a resource that would be a useful starting point?

If you want paper, check out the Oreilly book
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/ and the soon to be released
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/059600415X/qid=1036158835/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/102-1940561-6914508

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Re: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template

[Gerard]

ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 2:28:49 PM, you wrote:


DW> Yes, I understand that. The point is that, when I double-click on the
DW> name in the AB, the template works in its entirety - including the
DW> %ACCOUNT bit. However when I use Ctrl-N or the toolbar button to start
DW> a new email, the rest of the template works as above, but the account
DW> remains whichever account I happen to be located in at the time - iow,
DW> the %ACCOUNT portion of the templates does *not* function then.

Deborah,

I changed the New Template in a account and added the %account="XYZ"
statement. The moment I select new email while in this account the from
and reply to addres now show the email addresses belonging to account
XYZ. TB! does this th moment I select "new Email"

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Re: Cut mark

[Gerard]

ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 2:51:48 PM, you wrote:

MDP> Are you sure you're not using one of the SigStrip macros? They are
MDP> set up to cut various alternative combinations...

MDP> Alternatively, you could always use one that left lines of dashes
MDP> intact.

Hi Marck,

Never thought of that one :-0
I was sure it was TB! because I could not even use Mark-F4.

Do you have one that leaves these lines intact? If so can you post it
here or mail it to me privately.

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Re: Cut mark

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Tim,

G>> I would like to think this is a bug and see it filed as such.
>
> I don't see a problem. This is just a standard reply (Ctrl+F5) w/ no
> cutting...

It fails if you use the Reply button on the toolbar.

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Help with from / to Eudora Pro

[L Lloyd]

Just downloaded The Bat 1.61 and noticed it does convert *from* Eudora 
(Though converting the other Eudora account will be tricky, its not in 
Qualcomm/Eudora.) but to be truthful I am out of work at the moment. If I 
like The Bat but don't have the 40$ to register it I'd have to go back to 
Eudora Pro until such time I could afford it. I don't support piracy, 
piracy is why a lot of our software is so expensive, the programers trying 
to recover from the losses due to piracy. I'll have to poke and prod around 
but how do I convert back to Eudora Pro if necessity forces me to? Thank 
you for your time.

Lee

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Nigel,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:11:18 + GMT (01/11/02, 18:11 +0700 GMT),
Nigel S Smith wrote:

> The only fly in the ointment with this method is that mail being sent to an
> unkonwn user e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], would never be collected,
> whereas, at the moment unrecognised user names are sent to my account by
> default (I'm currently using Turnpike which handles this). Do you know of
> an option for picking up mail for everyone except the specified users?
> (might be something like "-nigel-gillian-lynsey-simon+webbit", so mail for
> all other users is picked up).

I don't know Turnpike, but it appears to break threads. It also
appears to top-post. So I'm not inclined to try.

Now, if you would consider using TB, you can create a Selective
Download filter that would "ignore" any mail with this address as
recipient. All other mails would be picked up.

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Re: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Mary,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:24:25 -0600 GMT (01/11/02, 20:24 +0700 GMT),
Mary Bull wrote:

> My sister sent me a FWD re a genealogy file. Since I thought it was an
> attachment, I enabled Rich Text/html in the viewer. Opened the message
> and it came up as a page full of little squares.

Rich text and HTML are two different things. Anyway, over here I get
squares only if my computer does not have the fonts associated with
the character codes. This in turn has to do with the character coding
chosen.

As a matter of fact, I have so far only seen this in Word documents,
not in emails.

> I decided to reply to her and ask her to re-send, so I could re-open
> it in much-maligned OE. In Reply (Edit Message) all the squares became
(legible)

This is weird. Because TB uses the same character code for replies
that was assigned to the original message.

> Question: Is this normal tbudl behavior?

I have never experienced this, but that doesn't mean that we won;t
solve the mystery. To the contrary.

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Re: Cut mark

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Gerard,

@1-Nov-2002, 15:51 +0100 (14:51 UK time) Gerard [G] in
mid:8626809269.20021101155126@;myrealbox.com said:

MDP>> Are you sure you're not using one of the SigStrip macros? They
MDP>> are set up to cut various alternative combinations...

G> Do you have one that leaves these lines intact? If so can you
G> post it here or mail it to me privately.

LOL Here's the one I use. It was fine when replying to your message:

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 ((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
 (\s*(Dear|Hi|Hello|Hey|Greetings|Howdy) \S*?\s*\n+)?%-
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 - -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
 _{40,}\s*\n|%-
 -{40,}\s*\n|%-
 \n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
 --+\s+.*roups.*~--\>)|%-
 \n\nYour use of|%-
 \n+Get your FREE download|%-
 \nNote that the email address of the sender has been changed|%-
 \n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%-
 \z)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="7"'
`|

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Re: Help with from / to Eudora Pro

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo L,

On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 07:24:51 -0800GMT (1-11-02, 16:24 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

LL> I'll have to poke and prod around but how do I convert back to
LL> Eudora Pro if necessity forces me to? Thank you for your time.

I don't think that can be done easily. Best way is to configure TB to
download your mail without deleting it from the server. And to
afterwards (once a day/once week, depending on your flow) to download
with Eudora and delete it. That way you've got to complete sets of
mail. (Or let TB delete the mail after one week and don't let Eudora
delete it.)


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Re: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Mary,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:24:25 -0600GMT (1-11-02, 14:24 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

MB> My sister sent me a FWD re a genealogy file. Since I thought it was an
MB> attachment, I enabled Rich Text/html in the viewer. Opened the message
MB> and it came up as a page full of little squares.

Unless you don't want the contents of the message to be knoiwn outside
your family, you could forward the message to the list.
First press Ctrl-Shift-K so that you forward the message headers too.

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Nigel S Smith]

Hi Thomas,
Yes i am considering using TB! - hence the original enquiry. As for
Turnpike, I'm not sure what 'Top-post' means. If you're refering to the
mails that I've sent to this list, then they aren't from Turnpike - I'm
doing this from work, where we have to use Lotus Notes (yuk, yuk, yuk).

What is a selective download filter - that sounds like what I've been
after.
Thanks,
Nigel.





Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@thebat.dutaint.com on 01/11/2002
14:59:33

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:   "Nigel S Smith on TBUDL"  The only fly in the ointment with this method is that mail being sent to
an
> unkonwn user e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], would never be collected,
> whereas, at the moment unrecognised user names are sent to my account by
> default (I'm currently using Turnpike which handles this). Do you know of
> an option for picking up mail for everyone except the specified users?
> (might be something like "-nigel-gillian-lynsey-simon+webbit", so mail
for
> all other users is picked up).

I don't know Turnpike, but it appears to break threads. It also
appears to top-post. So I'm not inclined to try.

Now, if you would consider using TB, you can create a Selective
Download filter that would "ignore" any mail with this address as
recipient. All other mails would be picked up.

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Paul Cartwright]

On Friday, November 1, 2002, 8:49 AM, you wrote:


NSS> Hi Paul,
NSS> I may have mis-understood your idea, but if I get all remaining mail, and
NSS> have filters to sort it, I might as well just get everyone's in the first
NSS> place - something I would have liked to avoid.
NSS> Or have I missed something?

I'm not sure you can do it the way I'm thinking about, but if you use
the  Account-Dispatch mail on server for each person you get mail for,
if there is anything left it would be those messages NOT to a person you
specified, right? So you take those and filter them for @domain ( no
userID), then you have SPAM left.



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Re: Cut mark

[Tim Musson]

Hey Miguel,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Business' was used
to write mid:16021765056.20021101160915@;ermspain.com
on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 10:09:15 AM.

MAU> Hello Tim,

G>>> I would like to think this is a bug and see it filed as such.
>>
>> I don't see a problem. This is just a standard reply (Ctrl+F5) w/ no
>> cutting...

MAU> It fails if you use the Reply button on the toolbar.

Not here, I tried that too.

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Re: Cut mark

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Tim,

MAU>> It fails if you use the Reply button on the toolbar.
>
> Not here, I tried that too.

Hmmm, that's strange. I'm sure I tried all combinations several times
(Ctrl+F5, Ctrl+Enter, ReplayAll, etc.) and they all worked except the
Reply button. But it works now. Really strange!

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Re: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Mary,

on Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:24:25 -0600GMT (01.11.02, 14:24 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in mid:1295230224.20021101072425@;premiernet.net :

MB> My sister sent me a FWD re a genealogy file. Since I thought it was an
MB> attachment, I enabled Rich Text/html in the viewer. Opened the message
MB> and it came up as a page full of little squares.

Can it be, the attachment is a MS Word doc file? I can imagine it to display
in OE but not in The Bat!...

Roelof wrote:

> Unless you don't want the contents of the message to be knoiwn outside
> your family, you could forward the message to the list.
> First press Ctrl-Shift-K so that you forward the message headers too.

Or it might help to send the headers only, to keep your privacy intact. *S*

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Re[2]: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Mary Bull]

Hello Thomas,

Friday, November 1, 2002, 9:04:23 AM, you wrote:

TF> Hello Mary,

>> My sister sent me a FWD re a genealogy file. Since I thought it was an
>> attachment, I enabled Rich Text/html in the viewer. Opened the message
>> and it came up as a page full of little squares.

TF> Rich text and HTML are two different things. Anyway, over here I get
TF> squares only if my computer does not have the fonts associated with
TF> the character codes. This in turn has to do with the character coding
TF> chosen.

Well, in my copy of TB, v.1.61 Options/Preferences/View, the drop-down
box gives you two choices: Fixed Width Fonts (which means text only)
and Rich Text/html (which I take to mean both, even though they are
not the same thing).

TF> As a matter of fact, I have so far only seen this in Word documents,
TF> not in emails.

This may very well have been a Word document, but it opened in the
body of the message when I clicked Reply.

>> I decided to reply to her and ask her to re-send, so I could re-open
>> it in much-maligned OE. In Reply (Edit Message) all the squares became
TF> (legible)

TF> This is weird. Because TB uses the same character code for replies
TF> that was assigned to the original message.

>> Question: Is this normal tbudl behavior?

TF> I have never experienced this, but that doesn't mean that we won;t
TF> solve the mystery. To the contrary.

That's what tbudl's for,
Nicht wahr?

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Spellchecking and XP conversion

[mm Meister]

Hi Bats,
My partner's still having problems with the spellchecking and
dictionaries since converting to XP (actually, changing machines).
Here is a copy of the email:

> Ok. When I downloaded the international language pack, it didn't
>   give me a choice about installing American English, so I
>   installed British English, French, German and Spanish. They
>   installed fine.
> 
>   When it then reloaded Bat, the automatic spell checking option
>   was still grayed out, but now I had a choice of the new
>   languages. So I selected British English. Now, no spell checking
>   is occurring, but when I go back up to the Speel Checker option,
>   but American and British English are grayed out.

Well, yes, I guess it's obvious the *speel* checker isn't working :)

Anyone?

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Re[2]: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Mary Bull]

Hello Roelof,

Friday, November 1, 2002, 9:57:15 AM, you wrote:
  
MB>> My sister sent me a FWD re a genealogy file. Since I thought it was an
MB>> attachment, I enabled Rich Text/html in the viewer. Opened the message
MB>> and it came up as a page full of little squares.

RO> Unless you don't want the contents of the message to be knoiwn outside
RO> your family, you could forward the message to the list.
RO> First press Ctrl-Shift-K so that you forward the message headers too.

No, it's nothing really private. The sort of thing put up on Rootsweb
all the time, on message boards and WorldConnect genealogy project.
But is it within tbudl's rules to do that? I lost my Welcome letter
when my old copy of TB was uninstalled.

Marck, Allie, Leif? Would you pronounce on this?

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Nigel,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:56:26 + GMT (01/11/02, 22:56 +0700 GMT),
Nigel S Smith wrote:

> Yes i am considering using TB! - hence the original enquiry. As for
> Turnpike, I'm not sure what 'Top-post' means.

OK, I'll explain. When you look at the messages on this list, you will
see that people usually quote the paragraph they are replying to, and
post their comment right below it. As I am doing here. It makes the
post easier to read.

What you do, is to quote the entire message and just write your
comment on the top. That is called top-posting and is somewhat frowned
upon on this list.

> If you're refering to the mails that I've sent to this list, then
> they aren't from Turnpike - I'm doing this from work, where we have
> to use Lotus Notes (yuk, yuk, yuk).

Well, I have never used Lotus and cannot comment on this. But is seems
to break threads...

> What is a selective download filter - that sounds like what I've
> been after.

You will need TB to understand this:

Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download Filters. Click on New
and check out what it can do. Post any questions here. ;-)

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Re: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Mary,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:59:45 -0600 GMT (01/11/02, 23:59 +0700 GMT),
Mary Bull wrote:

TF>> Rich text and HTML are two different things.

> Well, in my copy of TB, v.1.61 Options/Preferences/View, the drop-down
> box gives you two choices: Fixed Width Fonts (which means text only)
> and Rich Text/html (which I take to mean both, even though they are
> not the same thing).

I am getting a clue.

TF>> As a matter of fact, I have so far only seen this in Word documents,
TF>> not in emails.

> This may very well have been a Word document, but it opened in the
> body of the message when I clicked Reply.

Got it. It wasn't a Word document, because TB would only show it as an
attachment. It was a HTML document, and font that was coded as "to be
used" into it, wasn't on your computer. That's why you couldn't see it
properly.

>>> I decided to reply to her and ask her to re-send, so I could re-open
>>> it in much-maligned OE. In Reply (Edit Message) all the squares became
TF>> (legible)

That is because TB creates mails only in plain text, not in HTML. that
means the reply instruction you gave, opened the editor, which in turn
uses the font that you have set for it. Therefore, you can now read
it.

So you can read the incoming mail: I would disable the RTF viewer, and
would view the mail in plain text.

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Re: TB! Descrimination

[Greg Strong]

Hello Marck,

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, at 17:28:06 GMT + (10/31/2002, 11:28 AM -0500
GMT here), you wrote in :

MDP> ... and then again ...
MDP> see http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html

Thanks for the information.  Good page to point ISPs who block on TB.

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Re[2]: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template

[Deborah W]

On Friday, November 1, 2002, 2:46:59 PM, Gerard wrote:

G> I changed the New Template in a account and added the %account="XYZ"
G> statement. The moment I select new email while in this account the from
G> and reply to addres now show the email addresses belonging to account
G> XYZ. TB! does this th moment I select "new Email"

Yes, but that's in an account template, not a personal template as I'm
using. If this template is to be of any use, it needs to operate
regardless of which of my (40ish) accounts I'm in at the time. The
mystery is why it works when I select the name from the AB & not when
I create a new email from the toolbar button or using Ctrl-N.

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Re: Cut mark

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Gerard!

On Friday, November 1, 2002 at 2:05:59 PM you wrote:

> Hi Bat Users,

> I have always thought that a cut mark should be dash-dash-space-return.
> However, I have found that TB! also regards any line of dashes as a cut
> mark.

> This below would be seen as a cut mark
> ---
> Which is a pain is some one wants to reply using the text below this line
> as well. Does this happen, you ask. Yes for instance when you sent a
> calculation like this

>  67.23
> 155.--
>  +
> 222.23

> I would like to think this is a bug and see it filed as such.

Can`t confirm (see above, nothing changed).




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Re: Cut mark

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Miguel!

On Friday, November 1, 2002 at 4:09:15 PM you wrote:

> It fails if you use the Reply button on the toolbar.

Didn`t for my reply; since it didn`t work some time back I reverted
totally to the keyboard shortcut.



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Re: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template

[Luc]

 Good evening Deborah,
  
It was foretold that on 1-11-2002 @ 18:01:19 GMT+ (which was
19:01:19 where I live) Deborah W would mumble:
  

DW> The
DW> mystery is why it works when I select the name from the AB & not when
DW> I create a new email from the toolbar button or using Ctrl-N.
  
 Have you enabled "share with other accounts" in the QT?
 
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Re: Notebook and numerical pad hotkeys

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Tim!

On Friday, November 1, 2002 at 1:44:56 PM you wrote:

> That works here on my ThinkPad, but it is a pain. btw, I have not
> found a way, so if anyone has one... 

OK, here it works, pressing the Num key I found coincidentally gives
me a numerical pad. It takes away numerous letters and the keys are
not easy to see being kind of denim blue on transparent keys ...



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Filter Setting Overridden By Account Properties

[Joseph N.]

I have all messages to one POP3 account held on the server for two
days or until the message is trashed locally.  I also have a filter
which processes all mail going to that account which is not addressed
specifically to my prefix and domain name.  That filter is set to move
the incoming messages to a particular folder for review, to mark them
read, and to remove them from the server.

The filtered messages do not get removed from the server until they
are trashed locally.  It seems that the specific filter action of
deleting from the server is overridden by the account properties
setting of leaving on the server for two days or until trashed.

Is there another explanation?

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Re: TB! Descrimination

[Gary]

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 11:53:43AM -0600 or thereabouts, Greg Strong wrote:
 
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, at 17:28:06 GMT + (10/31/2002, 11:28 AM -0500
> GMT here), you wrote in :
> 
> MDP> ... and then again ...
> MDP> see http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html
> 
> Thanks for the information.  Good page to point ISPs who block on TB.

I just think it is moronic and ironic that this happens.  Ironic that
Outlook and OE are not blocked, yet they perpetuate 95+% of the viruses
themselves.  Those MUAs should be blocked. 
 

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Re[2]: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Mary Bull]

Hello Thomas,

Friday, November 1, 2002, 11:34:22 AM, you wrote:

TF> So you can read the incoming mail: I would disable the RTF viewer, and
TF> would view the mail in plain text.

Yes. I much prefer that. The other option is dangerous.

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Re[2]: Message field displays as little squares when FWd is opened

[Mary Bull]

Hello Peter,

Friday, November 1, 2002, 11:00:22 AM, you wrote:

MB>> My sister sent me a FWD re a genealogy file. Since I thought it was an
MB>> attachment, I enabled Rich Text/html in the viewer. Opened the message
MB>> and it came up as a page full of little squares.

PM> Can it be, the attachment is a MS Word doc file? I can imagine it to display
PM> in OE but not in The Bat!...

I thought so at first, but Thomas Fernandez has analyzed it a bit
differently in his post, and I tend to agree with him. There was no
attachment symbol with the message.

PM> Roelof wrote:

>> Unless you don't want the contents of the message to be known outside
>> your family, you could forward the message to the list.
>> First press Ctrl-Shift-K so that you forward the message headers too.

PM> Or it might help to send the headers only, to keep your privacy intact. *S*

 I think what is going on is solved. Did you see Thomas Fernandez's
 post? So I don't see any need to bother the list with the message and
 headers. As I said in writing to Roelof, it is just a genealogy
 message telling about people 150 years ago. :)

 Thanks for putting your mind to this for me. I have to admit, I am
 jumpy about bugs in The Bat!

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Re: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template

[Gerard]

ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 7:01:19 PM, you wrote:

DW> Yes, but that's in an account template, not a personal template as I'm
DW> using. If this template is to be of any use, it needs to operate
DW> regardless of which of my (40ish) accounts I'm in at the time. The
DW> mystery is why it works when I select the name from the AB & not when
DW> I create a new email from the toolbar button or using Ctrl-N.

Deborah,
Sorry for being a so slow today, last day of the week :-)
I have a AB personal template with the %account macro and it work when I
use Ctrl-N, the toolbar button, or directly for the AB.

The only suggestion I have is that the template you think is being
activated is not activated. Can you check this by adding some plain text
to the template like "Personal template" and see if it really is the
template you think it is.

If you are using QT's either copy them in the template directly or add
text to the QT templates so you can see they were activated.


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Re: Cut mark

[Gerard]

ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 4:46:41 PM, you wrote:

MDP> ,-=[ My Quotes macro ]=-<
MDP>  %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)%-
MDP>  ((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
MDP>  (\s*(Dear|Hi|Hello|Hey|Greetings|Howdy) \S*?\s*\n+)?%-
MDP>  (-+[\S ]+\n)?%-
MDP>  (.*?)(^(%-
MDP>  - -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
MDP>  _{40,}\s*\n|%-
MDP>  -{40,}\s*\n|%-
MDP>  \n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
MDP>  --+\s+.*roups.*~--\>)|%-
MDP>  \n\nYour use of|%-
MDP>  \n+Get your FREE download|%-
MDP>  \nNote that the email address of the sender has been changed|%-
MDP>  \n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%-
MDP>  \z)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="7"'
MDP> `|

Hi Marck,
I installed your macro as a QT and used it like this: %QINCLUDE="sigstrip"
The result is that there is no text left :-0
I also tried it by copying directly into the template, same result. Can
you tell me how you have it setup?

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Menu Navigator ?

[~John]

I checked the Help File and it does not say anything about
the "Menu Navigator" that can be located next to the
"minimize|maximize|exit" windows buttons at the top right of
"thebat!"
How is this used, any examples?
thanks!

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Re: Cut mark

[Allie C Martin]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

In ,
Gerard [G] wrote:'

G> I installed your macro as a QT and used it like this:
G> %QINCLUDE="sigstrip" The result is that there is no text left :-0
G> I also tried it by copying directly into the template, same
G> result. Can you tell me how you have it setup?

You could try mine:

%quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%-
(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%-
- -BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)"%-
"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""

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Delete & filter bug?

[Nick Danger]

Can't believe I hadn't noticed this before but this seems wrong to me:

I have a folder set up with a read filter to transfer a message
to another folder when read.

If there's a single message in there and I delete it, it's gone and
doesn't get moved.

If there's multiple messages, then even though you delete a message it
still ends up in the filter to folder.  If there's three messages (as
an example) and as I read them I delete them, the first two still end
up in the filtered to folder, the last message will actually be
deleted.

Does that seem like a "normal" way it should work to anyone?

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Re: Delete & filter bug?

[Chris Weaven]

Hi Nick,

On Friday, November 1, 2002 14:42 your local time, which was 12:42 my
local time, Nick Danger [ND] wrote;

ND> If there's multiple messages, then even though you delete a message it
ND> still ends up in the filter to folder.  If there's three messages (as
ND> an example) and as I read them I delete them, the first two still end
ND> up in the filtered to folder, the last message will actually be
ND> deleted.

I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
I wanted.

Therefore, I've totally re-worked my filters and they are all manual and
working as hot-keys using PowerPro.

ND> Does that seem like a "normal" way it should work to anyone?

I don't believe that it should still filter a deleted message. Maybe
it's just the order the system runs it in, but I would prefer it to only
filter the massages that haven't been read and then deleted.

This is just what happened in my situation and to be honest, I actually
prefer the way I have it set-up now.

Cheers,

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Re: Menu Navigator ?

[Luc]

 Good evening ~John,
  
It was foretold that on 1-11-2002 @ 14:33:55 GMT-0800 (which was
23:33:55 where I live) ~John would mumble:
  

~> How is this used, any examples?
  
 Open it and type e.g. "message". The rest is self explicatory i think
 ;-)
 
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Re[2]: sorry about the top-post

[Vishal Nakra]

TM> The one you want to watch out for is the 'Cut' mark. I think that is
TM> part of the list rules... :-]

TM> ,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a "Cut Mark"]
TM> | This is a "special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of
TM> | two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line".
TM> | 
TM> | 
TM> | 
TM> | This "cut mark" is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a
TM> | cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of
TM> | your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is
TM> | removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that
TM> | includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark
TM> | from the text you quote.
TM> `- [see FAQ @ ]

TM> Reply to my message and notice everything below this sentence is gone
TM> in your reply...

Thanks. I didn't know about this, but it's useful to know even though
I don't have a signature.

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Re: Delete & filter bug?

[Luc]

 Good evening Chris,
  
It was foretold that on 1-11-2002 @ 12:54:43 GMT-0800 (which was
21:54:43 where I live) Chris Weaven would mumble:
  

CW> I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
CW> of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
CW> folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
CW> message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
CW> I wanted.
  
 If, in your filter, on the advaced tab you enable "message is not
 flagged" and then flag the message before reading and hit delete, it doesn't get
 filtered.
 
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Re[2]: Cut mark

[Peter Kerekes]

Hello Tim,

Friday, November 1, 2002, 11:07:51 AM, you wrote:

TM> Hey Miguel,

TM> My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Business' was used
TM> to write mid:16021765056.20021101160915@;ermspain.com
TM> on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 10:09:15 AM.

MAU>> Hello Tim,

G I would like to think this is a bug and see it filed as such.
>>>
>>> I don't see a problem. This is just a standard reply (Ctrl+F5) w/ no
>>> cutting...

MAU>> It fails if you use the Reply button on the toolbar.

TM> Not here, I tried that too.

Same here, both ways OK. Cut only on dash-dash-space-enter line


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Re: Menu Navigator ?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello ~John!

On Friday, November 1, 2002 at 11:33:55 PM you wrote:

> How is this used, any examples?

It`s a very quick way to access any menu item via a list (I think it`s
a tree, can`t verify on XP) or with a fast search.


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Re: Delete & filter bug?

[Chris Weaven]

Hi Luc,

On Friday, November 1, 2002 22:07 your local time, which was 13:07 my
local time, Luc [L] wrote;

L> 
CW>> I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
CW>> of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
CW>> folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
CW>> message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
CW>> I wanted.
  
L>  If, in your filter, on the advaced tab you enable "message is not
L>  flagged" and then flag the message before reading and hit delete, it doesn't get
L>  filtered.

But isn't that a work around?

I don't know if I want to keep or delete the message until I've read it.

If you flag the message it's not filtered correct? You then read the
message and you want to keep it and therefore filter it, what happens?

It's not filtered.

Would you then have to manually remove the flag and manually re-filter
the folder?

I believe the correct way for this to work is for the read filter to
check if you've deleted the message in some way, rather than just
filtering it because you've read it. Maybe the filter kicks in as soon
as you open the message, rather than when you close it?

Overall, I'm not sure if there is a way to do what's required. I've
worked a way which includes flagging, parking and running manual
filters, but this is made quicker and easier using PowerPro.

Unless anyone knows a better way, I'm happy with this.

Chris.

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Re: Cut mark

[Gerard]

ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 9:38:15 PM, you wrote:

ACM> You could try mine:


Allie, Thanks. Works like a charm.

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Re: Delete & filter bug?

[Luc]

 Good night Chris,
  
It was foretold that on 1-11-2002 @ 14:57:33 GMT-0800 (which was
23:57:33 where I live) Chris Weaven would mumble:
  

CW> But  isn't  that  a work around? I don't know if I want to keep or
CW> delete the message until I've read it.
Here's how i do it:
i first flag the message. Then i read it and if i want to keep it, i
unflag it and move to the next message. The unflagged message gets
automatically filtered to the specified folder. And so on.
If the message (or the subject) is not of interest to me, i don't
unflag it but delete it.

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Re[2]: TB! Descrimination

[Marcus]

Thursday, October 31, 2002, 6:28:06 PM, you wrote:
Marck> ... and then again ...
Marck> see http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html

Can you change the default headers in TB to circumvent this?

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Raj]

Nigel,

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, at 14:52:49 [GMT +] (which was 8:22 PM where I live) you
wrote:

NSS> However, as all of our email comes from the same POP3 server, at the same
NSS> time (no matter which user downloads it), it needs to be sorted into the
NSS> repective Inboxes for each user. So my question is - what's the best way of
NSS> doing this? Is it by using filters, and if so, is anyone else doing this,
NSS> who could give me an example of their filters?

I  am  not sure why you even need to have filters. I have the same setup. I have
my  domain  and have setup multiple email id's for family members. Each email is
downloaded  in their respective accounts. In my case each email id has their own
passwords.  In all accounts the pop3 & smtp are same. What differs is the user &
password.

Within each account members create their own filters as per their needs.

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Re: TB! Descrimination

[Marck D Pearlstone]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Marcus,

@2-Nov-2002, 03:28 +0100 (02:28 UK time) Marcus [M] in
mid:205424259.20021102032827@;wordit.com said:

Marck>> ... and then again ...
Marck>> see http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html

M> Can you change the default headers in TB to circumvent this?

X-Ray will do that for you - see: http://www.xrayapp.com

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Re: Delete & filter bug?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Chris,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:54:43 -0800 GMT (02/11/02, 03:54 +0700 GMT),
Chris Weaven wrote:

ND>> If there's multiple messages, then even though you delete a message it
ND>> still ends up in the filter to folder.  If there's three messages (as
ND>> an example) and as I read them I delete them, the first two still end
ND>> up in the filtered to folder, the last message will actually be
ND>> deleted.

> I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
> of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
> folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
> message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
> I wanted.

This sounds familiar. No, I haven't experienced this, but it was
mentioned on one of the TB lists recently.

ND>> Does that seem like a "normal" way it should work to anyone?

No, I would call it an oversight ("bug"?) in the order in which the
commands (delete and move) are executed. That everything works fine if
you flag the message first, is another indicator that the order is
hardcoded into the module.

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Re: Multiple users, but one POP3 server

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Raj,

On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:05:50 +0530 GMT (02/11/02, 09:35 +0700 GMT),
Raj wrote:

> I  am  not sure why you even need to have filters. I have the same setup. I have
> my  domain  and have setup multiple email id's for family members.

He doesn't have different email boxes. He has ony one POP3 mailbox wih
different aliases for the different family members. That's the
difference between your setup and his, and that's why he needs filters
in any case.

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Spellchecking and XP conversion

[mm Meister]

Hi Bats,

  I'm having a bit of a problem getting this to the list - why, only
  the deities know - so if it shows up twice, please accept apologies.

  Here's the problem. My partner's changed machines to an XP machine.
  The Bat! somehow didn't bring over the dictionary, so at Allie's
  suggestion, we downloaded the dictionaries. Here's the relevant
  email today:

>> Ok. When I downloaded the international language pack, it didn't
>>   give me a choice about installing American English, so I
>>   installed British English, French, German and Spanish. They
>>   installed fine.
>> 
>>   When it then reloaded Bat, the automatic spell checking option
>>   was still grayed out, but now I had a choice of the new
>>   languages. So I selected British English. Now, no spell checking
>>   is occurring, but when I go back up to the Speel Checker option,
>>   but American and British English are grayed out.

Looks like the *speel* checker isn't working for sure!

Any thoughts I can pass on?

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Re: Spellchecking and XP conversion

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello mm,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:27:06 -0500 GMT (02/11/02, 10:27 +0700 GMT),
mm Meister wrote:

>>>   When it then reloaded Bat, the automatic spell checking option
>>>   was still grayed out, but now I had a choice of the new
>>>   languages. So I selected British English. Now, no spell checking
>>>   is occurring, but when I go back up to the Speel Checker option,
>>>   but American and British English are grayed out.

> Looks like the *speel* checker isn't working for sure!

None of the languages shown are greyed out over here. In fact, both
American and British English appear twice in that drop-down menu: once
in the upper part where all the other languages are, and then once
again in a lower part, which shows only these two languages with the
addage (CSAPI). Does that give you a hint?

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Language Switcher

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello TBUDL,

while I use Chinese Windows, most of my communication is in either
English or German. Therefore, my standard character set is ISO-9958-1
(I tweaked a bit in the registry for that). So please don't get
confused, the below has nothing to do with DBCS and should be valid
under English Windows as well.

Yesterday I received a message in Thai. The subject line showed up
quite perfectly, but the body of the message consisted of all kinds of
weird characters. I checked, but the character set in that message was
correctly set to Thai.

I had to go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font: change, and
change the font manually to a Thai font in order to be able to read
the message. Of course, after reading it, I had to switch the font
back to Courier New.

Is there a way to tell TB which font should be associated with a
character set, so that an automatic switching takes place? Why is the
character set switched correctly in the subject line but not in the
body?

How do other people on this list who read/write in English *and* a
local language with non-Latin characters (like cyrillic or Greek)
handle this? Do you use just one font, one that has both Latin and
local characters, or is there an easy way to switch?

(I don't like the looks of the English letters in the Thai font I use,
so I don't want to use that font as standard for all mails.)

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Re: Spellchecking and XP conversion

[Allie C Martin]

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Mm Meister [MM] wrote:'

MM> Looks like the *speel* checker isn't working for sure!

MM> Any thoughts I can pass on?

Have you tried doing a TB! reinstall? Attempt a reinstall over the
current. See if this helps.

How was the migration carried out in the first place?

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