Re: Which mailman server is correct?
G'day Bill, Sunday, June 1, 2008, 2:29:57 PM, you wrote: I seem to be getting two reminders for this mailing list each month. snipped Does any one know which is the correct one? I received duplicates as well - looks like something got fouled up when the list moved servers. I think that all the information now resides on the kore.geschkult server but no doubt one of the moderators will be along soon with an authorative answer. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .EML associations don't remain sticky
G'day Jurgen, Saturday, September 1, 2007, 3:41:09 PM, you wrote: Hello lonewolf, Thursday, August 30, 2007, 5:33:26 AM, you wrote: Bob, On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, at 08:56:02 [GMT +1000] (08:56:02 30/08/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: If you happen to have MS Outlook installed you may find that you will have ongoing problems. Despite continually associating eml files with The Bat! Outlook continually grabs it back and there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it. Its like Microsoft can't accept that anyone would actually really want to use another e-mail program Thanks, the problem has come back - not Outlook but Outofluck Express seems to keep grabbing it. In the Control Panel is 'Internet Options'. That has the tab 'Programs'. Go there and look what's set as email program. I bet it's Outbook Perplex. In my case it was Microsoft Office Outlook (not Express) but unfortunately changing it via Control Panel doesn't fix things. Next time Outlook is launched it re-instates itself as the default program :-( . There doesn't seem to be anywhere in Outlook's Preferences to disable this behaviour, at least that I can find. Manually setting file associations in My Computer/Tools/Folder Options/FileTypes (WinXP Home) also doesn't stick. Since I really need to use the Calendar function in Outlook it looks like I'm stuck with resetting the Bat! as my default on a regular basis. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .EML associations don't remain sticky
G'day lonewolf, Wednesday, August 29, 2007, 9:32:55 PM, you wrote: Bill, On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, at 09:38:27 [GMT -0700] (02:38:27 29/08/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Well, first look at what it is associated with before The Bat! opens. In the Windows Explorer menu: Tools | Folder Options choose the File Types tab then scroll down to see what is associated with the .EML extension. That seemed to fix it - Thanks! If you happen to have MS Outlook installed you may find that you will have ongoing problems. Despite continually associating eml files with The Bat! Outlook continually grabs it back and there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it. Its like Microsoft can't accept that anyone would actually really want to use another e-mail program ;-) I just keep clicking to associate The Bat! every second or third start. Very frustrating. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: folders disappeared
G'day Peter, Wednesday, August 1, 2007, 2:38:14 AM, you wrote: Hi Brenda, snipped You might try their forum - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum - I read recently that it is well visited, and I think/hope the developers read it too. After having a quick look at the forums I would hesitate to send anyone there looking for help. The big news in the Company News Forum is that The Bat! v.3.80 has apparently been released :-) . No word on anything later. There doesn't seem to be anyone providing consistent assistance other than Roelof Otten to recent threads and many queries posted don't seem to be getting any replies (although the counter shows lots of people looking at the threads). There doesn't seem to be any input from any Ritlabs developers or staff (at least in any of the threads that I checked out). There is the occasional useful reply in the forums from other users but generally far less than we get on TBUDL -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Flagged messages not shown?
G'day Susanne, Monday, June 25, 2007, 11:10:45 AM, you wrote: Hi, when I click the Flagged tab under the message list, TB shows no messages even though there are a number of parked messages in the folder. Am I misunderstanding the meaning of flags? Is a parked message not actually a flagged message? I think you will find that you have the option of either flagging a message (using the little orange flag symbol) or parking it using the P symbol. They aren't the same thing. It is possible to use either or both on the same message depending on what you want to do with it. For instance I flag messages that I need to reply to and these then appear in a virtual folder that I have set up. I park messages that contain important information (like software registration codes) so that I don't accidentally delete them. Hope this helps. Probably someone else may come along with a more technical explanation of the differences between the two. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyRealBox IMAP Configuration?
G'day Greg, Friday, April 13, 2007, 9:37:26 AM, you wrote: snipped Unfortunately TB is NOT able to log into the account. I use it sparingly, but would like to continue to use. I've deleted TB MRB account and created from scratch. It worked for a while, then same old problem. It looks like TB and MRB have problems. If you use TB with MRB and IMAP and it is working what are your settings? TIA! I'm now experiencing the same problems - can't connect from The Bat! although it previously worked fine. I can still access my accounts through the web access. Have tried resetting up the accounts using various combinations of settings from their examples which unfortunately assume that you are using one of a narrow range of e-mail clients, not including the Bat! I'd like to check the finer details of port numbers and authentication settings but they don't mention these. If anyone currently has MRB working with the Bat! can you please share your settings. Thanks. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyRealBox IMAP Configuration?
G'day Thomas, Monday, March 26, 2007, 11:18:25 AM, you wrote: Wow, they should have sent an email to everybody! Thanks for mentioning it. If I had known that you wanted one I would have let you have one of mine :-) - I was receiving at least one a day for about a week on each of my MRB accounts. Copy follows: Subscriber Action Required to Transfer Accounts Dear MyRealBox User: Novell has transferred the MyRealBox.com service and public e-mail server to our partner, Messaging Architects. MyRealBox demonstrates the high performance and scalability of the NetMail engine, for which Messaging Architects is also assuming development and support. Messaging Architects plans to keep the MyRealBox public e-mail server live, with the added benefit of its powerful anti-virus, anti-spam and anti-adware capabilities and increased storage capacity. New account registration information will be available soon. Based on our privacy agreement with you, however, Novell cannot transfer your account information to Messaging Architects without your consent. To request that your account be transferred to Messaging Architects, please visit http://www.myrealbox.com. MyRealBox users will have until March 25, 2007 to opt in to the account transfer. After this date, all remaining accounts will be permanently removed, and mailbox contents will be deleted. If you intend to keep your MyRealBox account active and want to avoid disruptions in service, visit the web site and request that your account be transferred today. Regards, Novell, Inc. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem Getting File Associations to Stick
G'day TBUDL Members, I recently installed Outlook 2003 (for the Calendar and Contacts - NOT the e-mail) to permit synchronisation of my appointments and contacts with my new Palm 750. Now The Bat! is no longer able to retain its file associations for Mailto: and .VCF. I have to reset it every time I start The Bat! and even frequently if I want to utilise a mailto link during a browsing session. I know that Outlook is the culprit constantly stealing the file associations but does anyone have any idea how to stop it happening. I'm sure there must be other Bat! users that also have Outlook installed on their computers :-) . I tried installing The Bat! as the MAPI handler, not sure whether that fixed the problem or not as it broke Microsoft ActiveSync. The error message was: WCESMgr.exe - Ordinal Not Found. The ordinal 23 could not be located in the dynamic link library MAPI32.dll. Removing the MAPI32 file created by The Bat! and restoring the old version fixed that problem but leaves me with the original problem. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 22 March 2007 Using The Bat! PRO v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem Getting File Associations to Stick
G'day Feli, Thursday, March 22, 2007, 8:52:02 PM, you wrote: What is the default email program defined in Internet Explorer? If it's TB you could try to change to Outlook, boot and then again set TB as default. I think that you may have fixed my problem. Internet Explorer (which I rarely use) had Outlook set as the default e-mail program and contact list, even though I had the file associations set in Windows as belonging to The Bat! After resetting Internet Explorer to agree with the settings at My Computer/Tools/Folder Options/File Options my desired setting now appear to be sticking. I will keep fingers crossed - Mr Microsoft doesn't seem to want to let go of any rights without a big fight :-) . -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem Getting File Associations to Stick
G'day Julian, Friday, March 23, 2007, 1:22:38 AM, you wrote: I use Outlook in the same way that you do. You will find that Outlook resets itself to be the default email programme on a regular basis - many Office updates via Microsoft Update reset the default email client, including updates of the Outlook Junk Mail list. There are instructions on stopping this happening at the following location http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=933450 but Brian Livingstone (http://windowssecrets.com/) suggests that it is easier to reset it manually. Julian Thanks Julian -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hyperlinks not working
G'day Ron, Friday, March 16, 2007, 6:30:59 AM, you wrote: I found this workaround on the FF Forums and it has worked for me (so far) although I had to do it manually to get it to work. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2764507#2764507 Thanks, Ron I will give it a try. At least it is nice to know that it is definitely a Firefox problem and nor something that The Bat! has caused. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hyperlinks not working
G'day Ron, Thursday, March 15, 2007, 6:48:51 AM, you wrote: Unfortunately, this (switching default) didn't work for me. Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with it until they get a fix. Unfortunately it has also stopped again for me. After initially working it is back to receiving the message that system can not find the file specified but Firefox then opens and opens the link as requested. It is an annoying bug. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hyperlinks not working
G'day Alexander, Saturday, March 10, 2007, 7:53:13 AM, you wrote: That problem occured here too after I installed the autoupdate to Firefox 2.0.0.2 - it seems to me that is it a Firefox problem. I switched the default browser to IE and then back again to FF, and the problem disappeared. Thanks Alexader - you just fixed a problem that has been bugging me recently too. In my case I got a message that the page referenced by the hyperlink couldn't be found (but it still opened in Firefox anyway). Switching the default browser to IE and then back to Firefox fixed it. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam mail
G'day Peter, Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 11:00:58 AM, you wrote: lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line: name wrote: As I hear lots of people are getting the same. I use Bayes Filter Plugin, for spam filter, it doesn't filter them out. snipped I can't help you with a filter but K9 (http://keir.net/k9.html) is catching them all with no problems plus those stock tips that just include an image and a sea of irrelevant drivel. I tried AntiSpam Sniper for a while after someone mentioned it here but abandoned it after a couple of months after finding it less effective than K9. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Help
G'day Thomas, Friday, November 24, 2006, 11:44:34 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, Main Menu / Help / Help Topics does nothing. F1 causes an error message: Missing context help topic 14028 [OK] Can anybody confirm, or is it local to my machine? Both work fine for me - opens up Welcome to The Bat! - the Natural E-Mail System or whatever the last accessed help topic was. Looks like something has got corrupted in your system somehow. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Updater
G'day Ben, Sunday, September 10, 2006, 5:47:33 PM, you wrote: Howdy Flying Rodent fans, I was using the TB updater. I waited for my Bat to tell me it could update to the latest version. I clicked on download. Firefox went off merrily to download. TB updater window came up with an error saying that it couldn't find the msi file, mostly I expect because it had not downloaded yet. Don't think that is supposed to happen. I can't confirm this. Just tried it (I'm using it manually) - The Bat! popped up the box with details of the update, I okayed it and then Firefox opened as expected. My download manager then took over the download of thebat_pro_ 3-85-03.msi which is currently proceeding as expected. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.85.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: User Dictionary/Correction Dictionary Language
G'day Mark, Thursday, February 23, 2006, 7:00:44 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob, Thursday, February 23, 2006, 2:47:28 AM, you wrote: BM I just upgraded to version 3.71.03 (thanks to Mary Bull for noting its BM release - no thanks to RitLabs who rarely seem to bother to advise BM about upgraded versions despite being on their mailing list). 3.71.03 is not a release. As you will understand there are far less release versions than Betas or even Release Candidates. If you want to be notified about new Betas, you should join TBETA. RitLabs sure seem to think that it is a release - at least according to their web page: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=1324 RITLabs releases The Bat! v3.71 02/18/2006 In the pursuit of a perfect piece of software we bring you yet another version of The Bat!. The list of bug-fixes is long, but pay attention to the new features we added too. In view of the release date some 5 days ago and most of the regulars here apparently not knowing that it existed sort of confirms my thoughts about RITLABs failure to advise users of the update. I have however discovered the solution to my original query. After resurrecting an prior version of The Bat! (on my old computer) and looking at the settings there I find that if I open my UserDic.TLX and change the LID (first line of file) from 24941 to 25202 it then correctly shows the language as British English rather than US English - in line with the language that I have set under Spell Checker language. I can't remember who originally provided this fix but he/she certainly has my thanks as it was driving me crazy seeing my User dictionary described as US English when it most certainly wasn't. ;-) -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
User Dictionary/Correction Dictionary Language
G'day TBUDL Members, I just upgraded to version 3.71.03 (thanks to Mary Bull for noting its release - no thanks to RitLabs who rarely seem to bother to advise about upgraded versions despite being on their mailing list). I notice that my User and Correction dictionaries have reverted to showing as American English despite me selecting British English as my language selection. I seem to remember that there was a trick to fix this, I think that a language code number had to be changed (I think it was the LID number in first line in the actual dictionary files?). Can anyone help out with what the fix is as I forgot to save it in my useful tips folder :-( ?. -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 23 February 2006 Using The Bat! PRO v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying HTML
G'day Dwight, Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 7:32:41 AM, you wrote: On Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 1:16:36 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I'm using Foxit Reader for PDF. Link? I didn't find anything like this at foxIT.com http://www.foxitsoftware.com/ I thoroughly recommend this as well. Small, quick loading and so far it has correctly displayed every PDF file I've used. Works nicely with Mozilla Firefox too. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
G'day Marck, Sunday, January 29, 2006, 7:09:39 PM, you wrote: snipped This is a MIME forward aka Alternative forwarding. In this mode, TB deliberately attaches a complete copy of the original email. This is also the way AOL users forward messages. TB's difference is that it attaches the copied email to a normal forward of the message. This is less explainable. I can understand an overview of the text in the covering message for the forward, but a complete content copy plus images plus attachments? Very odd. Of course, if you're not using MIME forwarding yourself, then you got the original message *from* an AOL user and merely formatted what you'd received. ;-) Thanks Marck, I've passed your reply on to my Brother-in-law. It had me stumped so your explanation was much appreciated. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
G'day Marck, Sunday, January 29, 2006, 7:09:39 PM, you wrote in response to my question: BM Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file, and BM what it is intended to accomplish other than to boost the size of the BM message? I promised my B-I-L that I would ask the question for him. Because you told it to! snipped I got an indignant (tongue-in-cheek) response from my brother-in-law when I sent him a copy of your reply. *No I didn't!* As a test he had set up a new account on The Bat! and it defaulted to the setting forward messages as attachments (MIME standard) with no user intervention. He then did a clean install on another computer - set up a new account and once again it defaulted to that setting. (In both cases the accounts were IMAP.) He obviously has too much time on his hands being able to do all this experimenting ;-) . On looking at my own installation I find that all six POP accounts have the setting unticked, while my one IMAP account has it ticked. It would appear that The Bat! applies different settings depending on whether the account is POP or IMAP. Not a problem as we now know why it was forwarding the eml attachment and how to prevent it (if desired), but thought I would pass this on to add to the store of knowledge -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
G'day TBUDL Members, My brother-in-law (who likes to play around with different e-mail programs) has just sent me the following observation about the way in which The Bat! forwards messages. I just noticed something odd about the way the The Bat forwarded that email re Husbands of the Year. (I copied to myself at FastMail..which, ebing IMAP...meant I could view the forwarded email in various mailers). Anyway, the original email was ~ 140 k. When forwarded to you - using default settings in The Bat - it doubled in size. That's because there was an *.eml part (~ 140 kb), plus html plus jpegs. ie The Bat was doubling up in effect. I guess ThunderBird (which currently is not on my computer) displayed this in a certain way. Opera did too: it displayed the email properly, then also displayed the three pics below (as did Outlook Express). I just did the forwarding bit from Outlook Express and from Opera. Both forwarded the message as a 140 kb email, with html and 3 x jpeg parts...and no *.eml attachment. ie they didn't double up like The Bat. Maybe The Bat has a very good reason for doing this: eg you have the option of saving the *.eml attachment?? I don't know. This is not meant to be a criticism of The Bat: just an observation. Steve In The Bat! I can see the message normally, plus am able to open the eml file which repeats the message complete with pictures. In Mozilla Thunderbird I can open the message normally (although the formatting is a bit scatty with pictures appended rather than being in-line) and also see the pictures and the eml file as attachments. If I try to open the eml file with Thunderbird the text content (formatted in HTML) appears but all the pictures are just blank boxes with red crosses just like when a remotely stored image is included in a message. There appears to be picture attachments included but these can neither be opened, viewed or saved. I also tried PocoMail which could open the message normally as well as being able to open the eml attachment (same as The Bat!). I know that Outlook Express can view the eml file okay (I tested by drag and drop), but I have no intention of setting it up to retrieve mail from the server to see if it can read the original message format. Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file, and what it is intended to accomplish other than to boost the size of the message? I promised my B-I-L that I would ask the question for him. -- Bob Mo®®is Sunday, 29 January 2006 Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.
G'day Roelof, Friday, January 20, 2006, 6:57:33 PM, you wrote: Hallo Bob, Close TB and delete the account.m_r and account.m_d files matching with the problem account. When you're using OTFE the extensions are .emr and .emd I'm not sure whether this solves the problem so I'd appreciate some feedback, but unless you keep mail on the server (and you deleted everything) you don't really need them. Thanks MAU, Roelof and Maurice for your suggestions. I gave up in frustration last night (prior to your replies), shut the computer down and went to bed. This morning on re-booting The Bat! successfully downloaded all the messages (including the one with the very large attachment) that both my ISP web-mail interface and PocoMail had reported as already having been deleted from my account. I have no idea how or what happened, but it is now resolved. I have politely suggested to my friend that I would prefer not to receive his large mass mailings in future. Sorry Roelof that I can't be the guinea-pig to test the effects of deleting the account.m-r and account.m-d files :-) . -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 21 January 2006 Using The Bat! PRO v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dual address books
G'day Jack, Friday, January 20, 2006, 1:20:39 PM, you wrote: snipped I see where my wording on this question may have caused you to misunderstand. If we assume there are no parked messages but only saved, ready-to-send messages, and I choose GET NEW MAIL FOR ALL I would expect TB to do only a receive, not a send/receive which is what it does. I would expect a send/receive only if I had chosen SEND + CHECK FOR ALL. Have you checked Account Properties - Transport to see if the box marked Combined Delivery (Send + Receive) is ticked. If the box is ticked The Bat! will do both actions together whenever you ask it to Send OR Check for new mail. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 20 January 2006 Using The Bat! PRO v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.
G'day TBUDL Members, A friend sent me a message with a _very_ large attachment (several MB) which was taking forever to download. (I'm on dial-up.) I aborted the procedure and directly accessed my ISP mailbox via web-mail and deleted the offending message along with everything else in my in-box. Now whenever I attempt to check for new mail on that account The Bat! reports that it is downloading the messages that I have already deleted and just sits there at 0% received for however long I remain connected. As a check I have accessed the offending account both via web-mail and by PocoMail, both of which report that there is no mail currently in the account. I figure that there must be some sort of cache that The Bat! is referring to and that it thinks that there is still mail to retrieve. I have closed The Bat! down (several times) and also rebooted the computer a couple of times as well with no change. Any ideas on how I can clear whatever is that is locking things up? -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 20 January 2006 Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
G'day Mary, Saturday, December 24, 2005, 1:42:31 AM, you wrote: Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day Curtis, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9:13:43 PM, you wrote: On 21/12/2005 at 8:30:33 PM [GMT -0500], Bob Morris wrote: I have just installed the latest Christmas Edition. The updated help file is a big improvement. Unfortunately however whenever I try to access my IMAP account at Fastmail The Bat! appears to complete all the downloading and then crashes with an Access violation error. Using a FastMail account here and don't experience any access violations. :/ Thanks for the input Curtis. I have determined exactly where the error occurs and can reproduce it on demand. Under Account Properties - Mail Management - IMAP Fine Tune: if Automatically Disconnect after synchronisation is checked then The Bat! crashes every time. (As I am on dial-up I don't want Fastmail to be continually connected so I need it to disconnect after checking my mail.) I have discovered a work-round that solves the problem for me: Mail Management - When inactive, disconnect after 5 Seconds has almost exactly the same effect as automatically disconnect but without the crash :GRIN: I wonder if anyone else would be good enough to try setting their IMAP to disconnect after synchronisation to determine if it is a reproducible bug, or just an isolated strangeness on my machine. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day Curtis, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9:13:43 PM, you wrote: Using a FastMail account here and don't experience any access violations. :/ I wish I was so lucky. Everything runs okay until the command TImapDisconnectRequest is processed. It crashes The Bat! every time. It worked fine on the previous version and I haven't changed any settings. If I get the chance tomorrow I may try setting up a new IMAP account to see if the same thing occurs. Meanwhile I have to use PocoMail to access FastMail, and IMAP definitely isn't it's strong point either :GRIN: . If no one has any other suggestions it looks like I may need to uninstall and revert to v.3.62.14 -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day steverio, Friday, December 23, 2005, 11:14:05 AM, you wrote: Not a problem here and I'm on fastmail too! Thanks Steverio (and Curtis) for taking the time to experiment for me. I appreciate it. Looks like I have one of those mysterious unexplained bugs that is unique to my computer. At least I have discovered how to work around it. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day TBUDL Members, I have just installed the latest Christmas Edition. The updated help file is a big improvement. Unfortunately however whenever I try to access my IMAP account at Fastmail The Bat! appears to complete all the downloading and then crashes with an Access violation error. The last time it was Access violation at address A10C74C0. Read of address A10C74C0. The problem occurs every time I try to access Fastmail but I'm not sure whether the error has an identical address each time. (I was too surprised the first couple of times to note down the details.) Access to POP accounts seems to be okay at this stage. Any one else seeing this? Any suggestions appreciated. -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 22 December 2005 Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day Bob, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 11:30:33 AM, you wrote: G'day TBUDL Members, The last time it was Access violation at address A10C74C0. Read of address A10C74C0. The problem occurs every time I try to access Fastmail but I'm not sure whether the error has an identical address each time. (I was too surprised the first couple of times to note down the details.) Access to POP accounts seems to be okay at this stage. I just made several more attempts to access Fastmail. The access violation error has a different address on each occasion. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9
G'day Jack, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 5:49:37 AM, you wrote: Hello Bob, Saturday, November 5, 2005, 12:22:30 AM, you wrote: Well, I set K9's limit to 10,000KB (which should be 10megs) and ticked the box. I then sent myself the same 6meg message I've been playing with from my wife's side of the computer using TB. It took almost 10 minutes to send but it went. I then fetched it using Outlook Express (sorry) because I've been using that program to test all this and it's configured to leave messages on the server. Outlook express (which is not using K9 or any other spam filter) was able to fetch it with no trouble. Jack I think you are missing the point here. The aim here is to _STOP_ K9 checking very large messages as the foul-up apparently occurs when K9 is trying to scan a very large message and the download process times out before the message is fully downloaded. What you need to do is to set a limit large enough so that all your normal sized mail (including Spam) is checked, but very large messages, like the one you are having problems with) go straight through without checking. My K9 checks everything up to 200 KB but allows larger messages through without checking. So far I haven't had any Spam over the 200 KB limit and the few very large messages that I get are received without problems. I then switched back to TB and tried to fetch it. Nothing came in and my connection timed out. More than willing to give TB another chance, I told TB to try fetching again. This time it did fetch the whole message including the large attachments. I hate intermittent problems. I am pretty sure that the problem is actually K9 and not The Bat! I certainly wouldn't dump K9 because of it though - the correct use of the exclude setting works fine. I am currently running at 99.82% accuracy, no messages falsely tagged as Spam, and the rare Spam that slips through is usually written in such a way as to look non-spammy. Tell K9 once that it got it wrong and it is very rare for it to repeat the mistake. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9
G'day Jack, Friday, November 4, 2005, 9:41:29 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob, Thursday, November 3, 2005, 11:31:51 PM, you wrote: BM G'day Jack, BM Friday, November 4, 2005, 1:42:39 PM, you wrote: BM snipped I looked all over K9 but could not find any setting which restricted receipt of large emails. Did I miss something or have any others of you had similar problems? BM Under the configuration tab there is a box Don't filter messages BM larger than. Mine is ticked and with 200 KB set as the amount. I BM have had no problem receiving large messages with this setting. snipped Upon receipt of your message I looked at the 'Don't filter messages larger than' box and it's not checked, so there should be no size restriction. I too am using v1.28. Yes that is definitely the problem - well I'm almost sure :-) . Check the box and insert a limit over which K9 isn't to check messages and you hopefully won't see it fouling up on the large messages any more. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9
G'day Bob, Saturday, November 5, 2005, 4:22:30 PM, you wrote: Quoting a whole lot of untrimmed message. Yes that is definitely the problem - well I'm almost sure :-) . Check the box and insert a limit over which K9 isn't to check messages and you hopefully won't see it fouling up on the large messages any more. Apologies moderators - I dashed off the above reply and forgot to trim. Please don't hit me with a trout. :-) -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9
G'day Jack, Friday, November 4, 2005, 1:42:39 PM, you wrote: snipped I looked all over K9 but could not find any setting which restricted receipt of large emails. Did I miss something or have any others of you had similar problems? Under the configuration tab there is a box Don't filter messages larger than. Mine is ticked and with 200 KB set as the amount. I have had no problem receiving large messages with this setting. I think that early versions of K9 sometimes had a problem with timing out when receiving very large messages and this setting was introduced to overcome the difficulty. It does of course mean that it a spammer sends you a message larger than the limit you set - K9 won't intercept it. I'm using the latest released version 1.28. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inactive
G'day Richard, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 11:24:09 AM, you wrote: I have not received a single post for four days now - has the list gone inactive temporarily or am I having problems? I was wondering the same thing myself. Just updated my firewall and thought that I might have mucked up some setting. Looks like everyone is just resting at present :-) . -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Continuing Lock-Ups in BAT 3.5.30 on XP
G'day Chris, Monday, July 11, 2005, 4:05:10 AM, you wrote: Do you have lots of filters or complicated filters? No complicated filters, just one for Spam filtering (on a header field added by K9) and one to steer my TBUDL mail into a separate folder. These are both working fine with no lock-ups when triggered. I have tried disabling just in case but that didn't make any difference. Thanks for the suggestion though. By the way - the repair/re-install of The Bat! didn't make any difference. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Continuing Lock-Ups in BAT 3.5.30 on XP
G'day Alexander, Sunday, July 10, 2005, 10:31:02 PM, you wrote: Did you disable your Antivirus entirely? If you haven't tried that yet, that would be my next step. I'm a little reluctant to totally disable the AV as I have received several viruses (my first ever) in mail during the past few days. All have been the same nasty, identified as - HTML-Phishbank.UN I suppose though that if I have to try this then at least using The Bat! keeps me much safer than Outlook Express. Did you maybe just exclude TB's mail directory from the AV's on-access scanning? If so, maybe it helps to disable TB's temporary directory from the scanner, too. TB downloads all mail to a temporary directory and then imports it into its own messagebase. The path to exclude is in your user profile, the folder Local Settings\Temp. Thank you - I didn't know about this particular temporary directory (one more difference from my old 98SE) but did find that it was choked with a couple of hundred TMP files, so I have cleared that out as well - I seem to remember reading here some time back that an over abundance of these files could cause The Bat! to have problems. I'll try excluding this directory and the Bat! mail directories from AV scanning as the next step in searching for a solution. If that doesn't work I'll try totally disabling the AV for a bit. Thanks for your help. -- Bob Mo®®is Monday, 11 July 2005 Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Continuing Lock-Ups in BAT 3.5.30 on XP
G'day TBUDL Members, I wrote a while back about continual lock-ups that I was experiencing with The Bat! on my new computer. The thread got hijacked :-) on to other lock-up problems apparently unrelated to my problem so I have just been playing around trying to see if I could track any obvious causes down. After disabling my AV E-mail checking (EZ-Antivirus) the situation now seems better but I am still getting regular lock-ups when viewing downloaded mail in the Browse Ticker Messages screen. I generally get to view one message and then it locks up. The Browse window is totally unresponsive. I can close the Browse window from the Task Bar (right clicking and choosing Close), and can then re-open the Browse Ticker messages window by re-clicking on the Mail Ticker, only to have it lock up again generally after only one message. Closing and then re-opening The Bat! restores everything to normal operations and I can read all my mail until next time I download. The cycle generally (but not always) starts over again. As a test I have tried marking previously read messages unread so that the Mail Ticker appears, then the Browse Ticker messages works fine with no lock-ups. It somehow appears to be related to when new messages arrive in my mail box but I can't spot what is triggering the freezes. I generally try to resist browsing until all messages have been received and all connections to the server has been broken, but I have experimented with browsing while messages are still being downloaded and it seems to make no difference. Usually it freezes but not always. I have just done a repair re-install to see if that helps, if anyone can think of anything else to try I'd appreciate your suggestions. -- Bob Mo®®is Sunday, 10 July 2005 Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting of Address Oicker
G'day TBUDL Members, I have my Address Book sorted by last name but notice that if I use the Address Picker in the edit window when composing a new message that all names are sorted by first name with (apparently) no way to re-sort in the same way as my address book. It is possible to use the quick search function to locate an address but I find it frustrating that the Address Book preference doesn't just carry over to the Address Picker as well. Anyone else bugged by this, or discovered any way to fix it? -- Bob Mo®®is Sunday, 10 July 2005 Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting of Address Picker
G'day Bob, Sunday, July 10, 2005, 9:22:20 PM, you wrote: Of course that should be Address PICKER - not what I wrote. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat v3.5.30 locking up on Windows XP
G'day TBUDL Members, I just upgraded to a new computer with XP Home after hanging onto my old WIN 98SE as long as I could. I also upgraded to The Bat! v3.5.30 when transferring my programs across to the new computer. The only thing that is driving me mad is that The Bat! now periodically freezes either in the view folder screen when reading messages or in the main screen. Other programs can be accessed alright but The Bat! just sits there not responding to anything. I have tried leaving it sit up to about half an hour, thinking that maybe there was some background task going on but it stays locked up. The only way out is to CTRL-ALT-DEL and to then close it using Windows Task Manager. This seems to happen about once or twice a day - I can't pick any pattern with other programs interacting with it. Any suggestions or work arounds appreciated -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 2 July 2005 Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat v3.5.30 locking up on Windows XP
G'day Alexander, Saturday, July 2, 2005, 5:41:49 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob Morris, 02-Jul-2005 09:26, you wrote: The only thing that is driving me mad is that The Bat! now periodically freezes either in the view folder screen when reading messages or in the main screen. Other programs can be accessed alright but The Bat! just sits there not responding to anything. The only idea I have right now - are you using a virus scanner that maybe locks TB out from reading its own messagebases? The rotten thing locked up on me again when I tried to read your reply. Your suggestion could be the answer. I use EZ AntiVirus and had the e-mail scanning option disabled on my old computer but hadn't thought to do this on the new setup. I have now disabled it and will give it a try to see if this helps. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat v3.5.30 locking up on Windows XP
G'day Bob, Saturday, July 2, 2005, 6:01:21 PM, you wrote: Your suggestion could be the answer. I use EZ AntiVirus and had the e-mail scanning option disabled on my old computer but hadn't thought to do this on the new setup. I have now disabled it and will give it a try to see if this helps. Thanks for the suggestion. Replying to myself now :-) No that didn't work - it locked up again after sending the message and the e-mail virus scanning is definitely disabled now. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Outpost Pro Firewall 2.7 - Fixes for The Bat!
G'day TBUDL Members, There is an updated version of Outpost Pro Firewall (v.2.7) which has some specific fixes for issues with The Bat! I haven't personally had any hassles with these but it may be of interest to other Outpost/Bat! users. Following is a list of issues mentioned: Issue with opening of renamed attachments in The Bat! Windows Server 2003 SP1 issue showing up in inability to receive mail using The Bat! http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/history.html Download from http://www.agnitum.com/download/outpostpro.html -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 4 June 2005 Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: file extension on attached files in received mail
G'day achdut, Thursday, May 26, 2005, 12:55:09 PM, you wrote: When I receive an e-mail with an attached document, I am unable to directly open the document with a double click because the file name for the document has a .aq exentension that is added to the file name. This extension is added automatically to all received mail. Are you by any chance using Outpost Firewall. My Outpost Pro addsaq (for attachment quarantine) to any e-mail attachments received which match its preset list of file types. You can easily change the nominated account types that are quarantined if this is what is causing your problem, or totally disable e-mail checking (probably not a good idea). -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 26 May 2005 Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 3.01 Automatically Registered itself?
G'day TBUDL Members, I finally took the plunge and downloaded version 3.0.1.33 the other day and paid my registration via CIFNET. My registration e-mail arrived this morning and I viewed in from the Ticker. Immediately after I got a pop-up window thanking me for registering The Bat! On checking I see that my name and serial number now appear under Help - About and I no longer get the reminder message about registering when I start The Bat! all with no action by me other than reading the e-mail. I am a little concerned that merely viewing a text e-mail can trigger the registration process without any intervention by me. One of the things that I loved about The Bat! was that unlike some other e-mail clients scripts or other processes could not be run automatically just by viewing a message. Has this now changed? Has The Bat! lost its main security advantage and will other malicious scripts also now run merely by opening an e-mail? If I was to forward this message to someone else with an unregistered copy of The Bat! would it also automatically register their copy in my name? (I'm not planning on doing so - just curious about the implications of allowing a text e-mail to trigger something like this.) I notice that the registration e-mail also instructs that the message should be printed (obviously sensible) _AND_ backed up to a floppy disk or writeable CD in case I need to reinstall The Bat! Does this mean that the registration details will no longer be able to be entered manually as in the past? If this is the case will a copy of the message in TXT format be sufficient, or does it need to be saved in some more exotic format to preserve the hidden trigger to activate the program? Presumably since the original message was text, a TXT copy should be sufficient? On checking further I find that the latest Help File actually does mention the automatic registration procedure (I got so used to the Help file being several version out of date that I hadn't looked there). It also does mention manually entering the details by a cut and paste if the message was received in another E-mail client, so I guess that answers that part of my question. I'm surprised that no one else has commented about this. -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 16 October 2004 Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla
G'day Leif, Thursday, September 16, 2004, 2:14:31 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob, [snipped] What happens when you use IE? I tried IE this morning and it works perfectly (as far as accessing the site - that is :-) ). Looks like it is something in my set-up for Mozilla but I just can't see which particular setting is doing it. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla
G'day Stuart, Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 10:58:38 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob, Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 11:33:29 PM, you wrote: [snipped] Has someone passed this info on to the new Wiki? I'm sorry but I won't volunteer to do this - I am still having major problems accessing the Wiki site, but if anyone else wants to submit it please feel free to do so. Maybe there is another magic trick to solve my access problems :GRIN: , Leif couldn't reproduce what is happening to me. -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 16 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDP Wiki site part deux...
G'day Bob, Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 10:42:24 AM, you wrote: G'day Bob, Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 10:17:35 AM, you wrote: G'day Leif, Monday, September 13, 2004, 3:00:36 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob, [snipped] Which URL are you using? It should be http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp [snipped Well I retried accessing http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp this morning. It doesn't reject my username or password this time - just takes me to a blank page: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-login.php where it just sits with nothing showing or happening. Nothing I do will get me past this blank page and into the site. Replying to myself. I eventually found that I was actually signed in even though the site was just showing a blank page. Flipping back and forward between pages somehow I stumbled in. Each time I try to access the page I still get the blank page after signing in, but eventually I seem to be able to access things. I can't figure out what is going on. Replying to myself yet again (this is very boring :GRIN: ). I have found that the only way that I can access the site (other than the initial page) is to sign on - get sent to the blank page, then go to another site (something like Google). I then enter: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php in my browser. This takes me back to the site, which then recognises me as signed in and permits me access. I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2 if this is of any relevance. -- Bob Mo®®is Tuesday, 14 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla
G'day TBUDL Members, I recently installed Mozilla Mail (1.7.2) - previously just used the Mozilla Browser as a stand alone item. Now whenever I click on a mailto: link in the browser Mozilla Mail opens instead of The Bat! I have made sure the Mozilla Mail is NOT the default mail application in it's settings and have checked The Bat! Options/Preferences/Applications settings to ensure that it is set as the default mail client and that all the specific file types are associated with The Bat!. I have also reset The Bat! as the Simple MAPI Request handler but Mozilla still calls Mozilla Mail instead of The Bat!. I even tried setting Outlook Express as the default, and then resetting to The Bat! but still no change. I have a vague recollection that someone here shared a manual edit to Mozilla prefs.js file (I think) to force it to call The Bat! but I can't locate it in my saved useful information folder. Can anyone help? Any other solutions or suggestions also gratefully received. On an aside I quite like Mozilla Mail as a backup client (I hated the stand-alone Thunderbird variety) but it is certainly not as powerful or useable (for me) as The Bat!. I really miss the Connection Centre - if you blink you miss any problems with the collecting mail, and their implementation of a mail ticker - just a brief display of how many messages have been received - is so basic as to be a joke. I haven't tried its IMAP capabilities yet. -- Bob Mo®®is Tuesday, 14 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla
G'day John, Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 7:23:49 PM, you wrote: Hi Bob, On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, at 18:24:05 [GMT+1000] (which was 18:24:05 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: [snipped] You have to un-install Mozilla. Re-install the browser only. Sorry, otherwise Mozilla Mail will take over. See my reply to Louis-Dominique - by using the preference setting he outlined (in Mozilla About:Config edits prefs.js in your profile) it is possible to keep Mozilla Mail while using The Bat! as the default mailto: client. -- Bob Mo®®is Wednesday, 15 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting the Bat! to default mailto: client in Mozilla
G'day Louis-Dominique, Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 12:45:38 AM, you wrote: Bonjour Bob, Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 10:24:05 AM, tu écrivais: [snipped] I use this in user.js for Netscape 7 may be it could work in mozilla: user_pref(network.protocol-handler.external.mailto, true); Thank you. This worked fine and I now have The Bat! back as my default e-mail client without needing to uninstall Mozilla Mail. For anyone who needs to do it in Mozilla just type about:config in a browser window. This opens the utility that edits prefs.js in your user profile. Scroll down the preference names until you come to the network.protocol-handler section, right click and select New then Boolean, and insert network.protocol-handler.external.mailto and true in the appropriate boxes and you are done. I then closed and reopened Mozilla to check that it was saved. As long as The Bat! is set as your default e-mail client it should now pop-up whenever you click on a mailto: link on a web page. -- Bob Mo®®is Wednesday, 15 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDP Wiki site part deux...
G'day Leif, Monday, September 13, 2004, 3:00:36 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob, Sunday, September 12, 2004, 5:49:43 PM, you wrote: B I tried registering after reading this message. Received my welcome B e-mail okay but any attempt to use the sign on link provided gives B me the message PHP has encountered a Stack overflow, so it would B appear that you still have problems. Which URL are you using? It should be http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp I used: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbwiki/tiki-login_validate.php?user= (additional information relating to my initial sign-in edited out) as advised in my welcome e-mail. This is the address that gave me the stack overflow error. The funny thing is the next time I went directly to http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp it immediately recognised me and permitted me to enter without signing in. However once I signed out it would not permit me to re-sign in - rejecting my user id and/or password as invalid. I then signed up again - using identical username and password and received another welcome e-mail with the confirmation address as: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-login_validate.php?user= (additional information edited out) and this address accepted me okay. I will retry accessing the site before sending this but it looks like there was just a hiccup in the registration process and that hopefully everything is now working okay. Thanks for your help. Well I retried accessing http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp this morning. It doesn't reject my username or password this time - just takes me to a blank page: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-login.php where it just sits with nothing showing or happening. Nothing I do will get me past this blank page and into the site. -- Bob Mo®®is Tuesday, 14 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDP Wiki site part deux...
G'day Bob, Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 10:17:35 AM, you wrote: G'day Leif, Monday, September 13, 2004, 3:00:36 PM, you wrote: Hello Bob, [snipped] Which URL are you using? It should be http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp [snipped Well I retried accessing http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp this morning. It doesn't reject my username or password this time - just takes me to a blank page: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-login.php where it just sits with nothing showing or happening. Nothing I do will get me past this blank page and into the site. Replying to myself. I eventually found that I was actually signed in even though the site was just showing a blank page. Flipping back and forward between pages somehow I stumbled in. Each time I try to access the page I still get the blank page after signing in, but eventually I seem to be able to access things. I can't figure out what is going on. -- Bob Mo®®is Tuesday, 14 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDP Wiki site part deux...
G'day Leif, Monday, September 13, 2004, 12:50:03 AM, you wrote: Hello All, [snipped] At any rate, I rebuilt the site (got up at 3am this morning) at a slightly different URL. We had no data loss other than I could not import the user table over as something in it was causing the problem. Apologies, but you'll have to register again. [snipped] I tried registering after reading this message. Received my welcome e-mail okay but any attempt to use the sign on link provided gives me the message PHP has encountered a Stack overflow, so it would appear that you still have problems. -- Bob Mo®®is Monday, 13 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is the The BAT! 3.0 released?
G'day TBUDL Members, Is there a new version 3.0 released? RitLabs site has it featured on http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ but any attempt to access what's new details, or other information about it just leads to a page in Cyrillic characters. -- Bob Mo®®is Wednesday, 1 September 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
G'day WilWilWil, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 8:05:00 AM, you wrote: [snipped] Is this SP2 really necessary for people who don't use use microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer with all his holes of security ? Because this upgrade seems to be very heavy ! I don't use XP but if you want to avoid a very large download you can order the update on CD for free from Microsoft at this address: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 26 August 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing icons in address book
G'day Zonnet, Friday, July 23, 2004, 8:17:03 PM, you wrote: ON Friday, July 23, 2004, 9:21:27 AM, you wrote: DR I just checked it out myself. Im getting the same thing. Im using the DR original bat grahics. Havent download any glyphs yet so thats not the DR problem. Looks like ritlabs forgot something I would say. Thanks Darrin. I am glad it is not me seeing things :crazy: Yes I can confirm that one too. It is a lovely neat blank space though isn't it? :grin: -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 23 July 2004 Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Virtual Folders - Strange Messages from 1899
G'day TBUDL Members, I have a virtual folder set up to keep track of messages that I flag in any of my accounts. I have noticed that sometimes when I open the virtual folder that I have a large number of blank messages shown as both flagged and parked. All show their received and creation date as 30 DEC 1899 and size as -1. From, To and Subject are all blank and it is impossible to open or view them. Clicking on the messages just opens the account inbox but there are no related messages there. It is possible to unflag or unpark the messages and to toggle them between Read and Unread status. I haven't tried deleting in case they are somehow linked to legitimate messages (or perhaps that my long dead great grandfather is now trying to e-mail me GRIN). Normally I have had to close the Bat! and reopen it to get rid of them but I have just discovered that if I select the Virtual Folder properties and toggle the use filter box on or off it will also clear them. Has anyone else seen this? Is it a bug or just an undocumented feature for some unknown purpose? -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 29 April 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V.2.10.00 and V2.10.01
G'day Marek, Wednesday, April 21, 2004, 5:54:21 PM, you wrote: [snipped] yes, help file was missing in 2.10.00. As I had loaded 2.10.00 over my previous version (2.04.07) there was still a help file present so the explanation wasn't readily apparent. Looking at the file date I can now see that it is an old Help File. I will now install the update to 2.10.01 to get access to the latest Help File. Thank you very much for the clarification. -- Regards, Bob The Bat! v2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
V.2.10.00 and V2.10.01
G'day TBUDL Members, Can anyone advise what differences there are between the two versions. 2.10.00 is 3186KB (previously available) while 2.10.01 is 3838KB (now available) but there is no mention on the RITLABs site (that I can find) to explain the difference. -- Bob Mo®®is Wednesday, 21 April 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What does Canvas does not allow mean?
G'day Dirigo, Thursday, April 1, 2004, 3:52:39 AM, you wrote: Occassionally when I open an HTML formatted email, I will get a pop-up message that reads Canvas does not allow (nothing else) with an OK button. [snipped] From my experience and previous threads about this problem over the past year or two this is a Windows 98 problem rather than problem with The Bat!. This problem occurs from time to time on Windows 98 when it runs low on resources. You can try closing down some programs to free up resources, but generally the only solution is to re-boot. You can probably recreate the problem if you have MS Word or some similar resource hungry program on your computer. Just open and close it four or five times (you don't need to actually use it each time) and all sorts of strange things will start to happen when you try to access programs - the inability to redraw a screen being one of the most immediately obvious. Each time a program opens it reserves part of Windows resources for its use but some poorly written ones don't fully release the resources when closed. I think the first time the error message appears it actually says Canvas does not allow redraw, but generally there are multiple error messages popping up quicker than you can click OK and subsequent ones do indeed just say Canvas does not allow as you noted. -- Regards, Bob The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.3 bug?
G'day Scott, Tuesday, March 2, 2004, 3:10:17 PM, you wrote: When I am checking email or scrolling thru received emails, I occasionally see a window flicker or see the title bar of TheBat! flicker. I am not able to see what that window is that is flickering. Anyone else experience this? Do you by any chance have the BayesIt plug-in installed. You can check under Options-Preferences-Plug-In if you are not sure. The behaviour described exactly matches what I saw with BayesIt. I have since uninstalled the plug-in as I am using K9 which is working fine for me. -- Regards, Bob The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Canvas does not allow
G'day Wayne, Friday, February 20, 2004, 2:20:24 PM, you wrote: Thursday, February 19, 2004 at 8:16 PM (Pacific Time) Hello Bat Users, Every once in a while I will get a joke from a friend and a box will pop up saying Canvas does not allow and I have to ctrl-alt-del to shut TheBat down. When restarting, all is fine and I delete the message that made this happen. Has anyone seen this message before and know what causes it? This is a problem with Windows 98 running out of resources. The only solution is to reboot as it is a system problem and not a Bat! problem. Usually when it does it to me I don't just get one pop-up - I get dozens that keep appearing quicker than I can close them down. CTRL-ALT-DEL is usually the only way out. -- Regards, Bob The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error: Canvas does not allow drawing
G'day Simon, Thursday, November 13, 2003, 7:12:54 PM, you wrote: As Ellen said in MID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] it *seems* to be a resources problem, and related to TB! on W98 setups especially. When I first got The Bat! quite some time back I ran ran it on a W98SE machine for a while and occasionally encountered the same errors (and other W98 users reported the same problems via this list I seem to recall). One of the things I did was to kill and not reload background processes that weren't necessary, and the other was to reboot a couple of times a day. Thanks Simon and Jane Ellen. I've had no more problems since. I had been running a couple of extra programs in the background that I don't normally use and as I was showing plenty of free memory didn't even think about the old resource limitation bug in WIN98. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 14 November 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error: Canvas does not allow drawing
G'day TBUDL Members, Several times today my Bat! has crashed with multiple pop-up warning boxes saying Canvas does not allow drawing or Canvas does not allow. This has happened when I have tried to move a message, and also when opening an existing message to reread it. As the boxes are popping up faster than I can click on the OK the only way out has been to CTRL-ALT-DEL. I have tried running the folder maintenance function and it reports no errors (or indeed any action required). Closing and re-opening The Bat! initially solved the problem but it then happened again. I have closed Windows down and rebooted and so far there have been no more problems. Any suggestions as to what might be causing the problem, and how to fix it, would be appreciated. -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 13 November 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
G'day Pat Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 2:47:09 AM, you wrote: Bob, On Saturday, October 18, 2003, 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Pat, I also noticed that your signature doesn't seem to be B stripping on reply, you might be missing the space after the -- , B unless this is another Version 2 bug. Thanks for the heads-up-- don't know what happened. Hopefully it's working now... ? It's working fine now. -- Bob Mo®®is Wednesday, 22 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error While Reading Message Base (v2.01.3)
G'day TBUDL Members, Whenever I try to read my TBUDL messages today I am receiving the following error: An error occurred while reading the message base C:\PROGRAM FILES\THE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you want to repair this message base now? YES/NO I select YES the repair function runs but when I try to access the messages afterwards I receive exactly the same message again, and still can't access the mail. I have tried using the repair function in Folder/Maintenance but although this runs and apparently fixes the problem it in fact doesn't work either. The Report in the Folder Maintenance Centre reads: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages recovered 909, damaged parts (part.bin) saved:0 Processing finished. 1 folders processed. Help! What do I try next to get out of this endless loop? -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 23 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error While Reading Message Base (v2.01.3)
G'day Marck, Thursday, October 23, 2003, 11:21:15 AM, you wrote: Hi Bob, @23-Oct-2003, 09:32 +1000 (00:32 UK time) Bob Morris said to TBUDL: Help! What do I try next to get out of this endless loop? 1) Exit TB. Run up Windows Explorer. Navigate to your TB MAIL folder, which will be somewhere like: C:\ Program Files\TheBat!\MAIL\Inbox 2) If you have messages in the inbox you want to save, just delete the messages.tbi file, reload TB and see if anything has improved. snipped Thank you very much Marck. Deleting the messages.tbi file worked fine and everything is accessible once again. I strongly recommend to *everyone* here not to use an account inbox as a mail store - get those messages into other folders now. Instate a filter set to keep the inbox empty. snipped Can you also clarify your advice regarding not storing mail in the Inbox? My batgroup account is set up only for messages from the group - no other mail goes to it at all. I retain messages for a maximum of 31 (I used to have it set on just a couple of days but this mucked up threading and there was a suggestion to the Group to retain messages for at least a month as most threads will complete/die in that period.) I have my Folder options set to remove old messages and compress folder on exit (so it happens at least once a day as I am on dial-up and the computer is shut down every night). Any messages of special interest are copied to a separate Useful BAT Info folder which is compressed on each exit but not purged of old messages unless I do it manually. If I move the received mail into another folder as it is received and read won't this: (a) cause the Bat! to have problems with threading once again as newly received mail is in the Inbox and previous mail in the thread is stored elsewhere, and (b) the new folder will be subject to exactly the same pressures with exactly the same amount of mail passing through and stored in it - i.e. from Inbox - hold 31 days - Delete old mail and compress on each exit? For all of my other accounts I move completed messages (i.e. read and replied to) into a common Stored Mail Folder (I have 4 different ones to cover different subjects). These folders are also compressed on each exit and I cull them manually from time to time to remove items no longer wanted. I generally only ever have e-mails awaiting reply (perhaps 1 or 2) and newly received (unread) mail in my inbox. -- Bob Mo®®is Thursday, 23 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
G'day Terry, Friday, October 17, 2003, 8:15:55 PM, you wrote: Sorry that I have nothing helpful, but I can confirm the problem. I just downloaded the latest 2.01.3 Bat! version and it seems like this problem is fixed. I can get into the Scheduler either directly or via SmartBat without all those horrible error messages. -- Regards, Bob The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
G'day Pat, Saturday, October 18, 2003, 5:25:53 AM, you wrote: SNIPPED I was just about to report the same error message. Very annoying. Does your scheduler work ok otherwise? I haven't tried to do too much with it yet other than trying a few test alarms. The first didn't give any audible warning although a message box popped up - I think that I probably mucked something up dodging all those silly error messages GRIN. My subsequent tries got both a popup reminder and an audible alarm. I have noticed though that when you click on the Notification Settings/ Use as default that it won't stick. I have to reset the default everytime I set up a new alarm. I'd appreciate some advise from one of our more knowledgeable members here - is there any way to easily check whether this bug - (The Failed to set calendar selected range error message appearing on every use of the Scheduler and on each change of tab) has already been reported and if it hasn't how do I go about it. Pat, I also noticed that your signature doesn't seem to be stripping on reply, you might be missing the space after the -- , unless this is another Version 2 bug. -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 18 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
G'day Allie, Saturday, October 18, 2003, 9:46:18 AM, you wrote: Ok. I can't so we're likely doing things differently or use different settings. Currently, I'm using MicroEd as my default editor. I tend to just open a new message, fill in the To: and Subject: headers, tab into the message body field and then switch editors to HTML only. I type a few words and then put in the Outbox or save as draft. Both work. snipped I'm using the Rich Text Viewer as my default viewer. I'm also using no plug-ins (plug-ins seem to interfere in unexpected ways at times so I thought I'd mention that). snipped I'm also using the Rich Text Viewer and no plug-ins, so that rules out that explanation for me at least. I tried altering my default editor to MicroEd and then changing the settings for individual messages with Options/Message Format as you said you did and everything then went beautifully exactly as it should with the message correctly formatted without multiple draft files moving to the Outbox when I hit the Put letter in Outbox button. I tried a few variations of coloured text, varying text size and with and without inline pictures. Every combination worked fine. I then changed to the Plain Text (Windows) Editor as my default and once again everything went again fine this time. The same with setting up both the HTML Editor options as default. Whatever the problem was, it has obviously been corrected (for now at least) by swapping the default editor and using the message format option. Subsequent changes of default editor haven't resulted in it reappearing. This could be one of those really annoying problems to track down if it only happens intermittently and not to all users. I will keep my fingers crossed that it will keep working for me, just in case I ever really do want to send HTML mail. Allie, thank you very much for taking so much time to try to emulate the problem. Rich Gregory - thank you for confirming that you have the same problem - at least I know I haven't gone completely senile and wasn't just imagining it. -- Bob Mois Saturday, 18 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
G'day Allie, Friday, October 17, 2003, 11:08:01 AM, you wrote: snipped confirmation that Spell Checking problem is a known issue BM Then when I hit the Put letter in Outbox button nothing happened. BM The same with the Send the letter button - nothing. Manually BM switching to the Outbox showed my message was there but with the BM draft hourglass symbol displayed. The only way I can convince the BM message to send is to manually click on the Hourglass symbol in the BM outbox to delete the draft status and then send manually. Is this BM the expected behaviour? AM Yes. Drafts cannot be sent unless their draft status is removed. Perhaps I didn't explain too well here. There is no way that I can send a message from the HTML Editor, either to my Outbox for later despatch or as a request for immediate despatch, unlike the other two editors which allow me to use either of the icons at the top left of my tool bar. The selection of Message - Send Now or Queue in Outbox also doesn't work for me with the HTML Editor. I didn't really want to send a draft - it was only by changing to the outbox and manually removing the draft status that I could get the message sent. The other editors automatically remove the draft status as soon as you hit the Send command from within the Editor. snipped other comments re Quick Templates not working with HTML Editor I guess that it is pretty clear that The Bat! isn't really ready for use as a HTML client, and personally I have no problem with that. If I had purchased it wanting to use HTML then I would be pretty cheesed off though. Thanks very much for your quick reply. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Language Spell Checking Options in v2.01
G'day TBUDL Members, I recently installed v2.01 over the top of my old 1.62r (as outlined on the RIT Labs site) and find that although I still have the options of both American English and British English above the line under Spell Checker - Language, and still have British English checked as my option; when I select Spell Checker / Dictionaries, it shows the language as American English for both UserDic.TLX and Correct.TLX with no other alternatives available. Under the line which I understand to mean that there is no dictionary available, I have American English (CSAPI), Australian English (my system Language default) and British English listed a second time. I tried re-running The Bat International Pack executable file, even though I have never had to do this on previous 1.6 upgrades but I still am unable to access anything other than American English. Any suggestions on where I am going wrong, or what other settings I might need to change? I think I've looked in all the obvious places but I must be overlooking something. Sorry for bugging the list with all these questions but the Help file for v2 is no more complete or helpful than the old version. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
G'day TBUDL Members, I have recently updated to Version 2.01 (and registered it) and am currently exploring the various options - probably a life long program I expect GRIN as I never found them all in my previous versions. I don't normally use HTML for e-mail but decided to experiment with the HTML/Text option to see how it worked. Actually composing a message worked fine, I could insert all the pretty fonts, change background colour, insert pictures in line and so on. Then I attempted to run my spell check - it doesn't appear to work at all with the HTML Editor although both options - Check entire text and Check before send/queue works fine in both the Plain Text (Windows) and Plain Text (MicroEd) editors. Is this a known issue, or am I doing something wrong? I then noticed that every auto-save of my message (set at the 40 second default) was creating a new HTML attachment to my message, plus saving an additional copy of each graphic file so that I ended up with multiple HTML files each progressively a little larger as my message progressed. Then when I hit the Put letter in Outbox button nothing happened. The same with the Send the letter button - nothing. Manually switching to the Outbox showed my message was there but with the draft hourglass symbol displayed. The only way I can convince the message to send is to manually click on the Hourglass symbol in the outbox to delete the draft status and then send manually. Is this the expected behaviour? I think that I read in earlier messages to the group that The Bat's HTML implementation in v2.0 was a bit buggy, but as I was not planning an immediate move to v2.0 in view of all the other teething problems I didn't take any notice. I have confirmed that the recipient received the final version plus 5 different draft versions of my message -only the final was initially visible in Outlook Express v6, but the others show up when viewing the message source, 6 copies of one graphic (inserted at the start of the message) and 4 copies of the graphic inserted at the end - all copies of the graphics appeared both inline plus queued at the end of the message as well. The HTML Editor would also not allow me to insert my Quick Template signature, carried over from my old 1.62r version, but it works fine with the other two editors. Forgive me if I am running over old ground - all the current messages headed as relating to Version 2.01 seem to only relate to enquiries about using PGP signatures. Any advise and/or guidance would be appreciated. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Composed Using the Plain Text (Windows) Editor Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
G'day TBUDL Members, Whenever I select the scheduler either with ALT F11 or Tools - Scheduler I get a popup warning box The Bat! - Failed to set calendar selected range. After I click on OK the scheduler starts, but the first time I click on each tab in it I receive the same error message. It then seems to run okay until next time I open the Scheduler, when it all happens again. I get the same error if I try to access the Scheduler via SmartBat. I can't find any reference to the error message, or how to set the calendar range in the help file. Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with TB and SpamPal
G'day Prezes, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 1:28:11 AM, Prezes wrote: Hello TBUDL list, I have 54 mail accounts. Recently I have installed SpamPal (then K9). And I have a problem: in 43/54 accounts there is Cannot SNIPPED But in K9 there is no option to listening in more than 1 port. So, could you tell me how can I use K9 with automatically checking all accounts in the same time (54 accounts). Error is the same as in SpamPal before changing ports... SNIPPED SIGNATURE A good place to get information about using K9 is the newsgroups at GRC.COM, specifically the GRC.SPAM group as Robin Keir the developer hangs out there regularly, plus lots of people who use SpamPal. I have K9 running with 9 addresses with no problems but don't use SpamPal. I'm sure that you will find someone at GRC.SPAM who will be willing to assist. -- Bob Mo®®is Sunday, 5 October 2003 Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
G'day Urban, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 8:49:03 AM, you wrote: U Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote: SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.] U Wow, I just discovered... U Neither is the word synchronise (in the Tools menu) U The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct. I guess that depends on whether you use an English dictionary as used in most of the English speaking world, or an American one. SmartBat is of course a trade name so unlikely to appear in either version. -- Regards, Bob The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test - pls ignore
G'day Keith, Friday, September 5, 2003, 7:46:58 PM, Marck Pearlstone wrote: MDP Hi Keith, snipped KR Sorry, I have received only 2 messages from the list yesterday, KR and none today. I hope this has nothing to do with V2! MDP It doesn't, but it may have something to do with myrealbox delays or MDP even bouncing at the myrealbox end. Keith, As Marck points out, myrealbox.com is having major problems at present. I haven't been able to reliably get mail in or out for several days now, a little was getting in but most of the messages from this list were being bounced without me being aware of it. Like you I thought that maybe volume was down as a result of everyone playing with v2. I can't even log on to the web interface at myrealbox now. I have had to set up an alternative account to receive my daily fix of Batnews. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 5 September 2003 Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Setting up a Kill Filter
G'day Allie, Saturday, June 14, 2003, 10:07:43 PM, you wrote some very useful advice. Bill and Joel also provided some valuable guidance which I also appreciated. Thanks guys. Unfortunately I found that the kill filter failed to work in the real world (as opposed to testing on old messages already downloaded) because I was basing it on the person I wanted to block being listed in the Sender string. It appears that all TBUDL list mail comes with the Sender being [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than from the individual member so of course the filter doesn't work. Using the alternative locations of Subject/Text/Kludges/or Anywhere had the undesired effect of filtering out any message which mentions the target person's name in any context which wasn't my desire. It looks like it isn't as simple or easy as I thought to set up a simple kill filter, but at least I had fun trying. The immediate need for the filter has now passed, but if you have any alternative suggestions I would love to hear them. I really do love using The Bat! as there is a never ending range of extra functions to explore and experiment with, and frequently I find that I can set up something to meet my exact needs (unlike that MS stuff which always assumed that I wanted to do it their way GRIN). Thanks again for your assistance, -- Bob Mo®®is Sunday, 15 June 2003 Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Setting up a Kill Filter
G'day neurowerx, Sunday, June 15, 2003, 6:01:23 PM, you wrote: nwd You should check the kludges for FROM: offender then, shouldn't you? Thanks - that solved the problem. I knew there had to be a way but I was too dense to see it. -- Bob Mo®®is Sunday, 15 June 2003 Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting up a Kill Filter
G'day TBUDL Members, I am using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A I am used to reading my news group messages in a dedicated newsreader (Forte Agent) which gives me the ability to quickly and easily kill filter any objectionable poster by clicking a button and then specifying how long and from which groups I want to filter them, plus whether to simply mark as read or to delete the offending messages. TBUDL is my first experience of an e-mail based group and of course I read it through The Bat! Until now I have not felt any need to apply a kill filter, but after the recent spate of aggressive posts from one poster I want to exclude him from the material I read. I have set up a filter as follows: RULE Name: (Offender's Name) Kill Filter Source folder: Inbox Move messages to folder: TBUDL Filtering strings: (Offender's Name) Location: Sender Presence: Yes Rule is Active ACTIONS Mark the message as read OPTIONS Continue processing with other filters Regular expressions This filter appears to work fine, but is there any neater and more flexible way to set up a kill filter without setting up a separate individual filter for each offender? Based on my experience of the group over the past nine months it wouldn't appear likely that I would want to use it frequently (if at all) but I am curious about the best way to do it (just in case the current attack of bad manners/trolling escalates. -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 14 June 2003 -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 14 June 2003 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
