Re: email/k9mail test
On Friday, July 15, 2011, Roelof Otten wrote: DG>> did this arrive on the droid via the droid email app, or via k-9? > Maybe, just maybe it would be better not to send test messages via a > mailing list. Rest assured that your message didn't arrive here via K9 > nor a droid email app. > And I guess it's the same for about 500 other list users. The outbound in my 'sent' mail folder shows the message addressed to me, which was, of course, my intent. There was no intention of spraying the list with it. However, somehow it happened. Apologies to the list members. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 4.0.38 AntispamSniper 3.2.3.7 Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
email/k9mail test
did this arrive on the droid via the droid email app, or via k-9? -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 4.0.38 AntispamSniper 3.2.3.7 Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Win 7 / 4.0.38?
On Tuesday, September 14, 2010, Daniel Rail wrote: > I'm still running 4.0.28.1. And, it's running perfectly well with > Windows 7 64-bit. Thanks. That answers the question... :) -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 4.0.38 AntispamSniper 3.2.3.7 Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Win 7 / 4.0.38?
Still running 4.0.38 here, but would like to upgrade OS to Win 7. Does anyone know 4.0.38 is compatible with Win 7-32? Win 7-64? As always, many thanks... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 4.0.38 AntispamSniper 3.2.3.7 Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler/Calendar
On Thursday, November 26, 2009, I wrote: > Except... When I click on Tools->Scheduler the calendar display that > comes up is for October-November 2007 and an error panel appears with > the message "Failed to set calendar selected range". Hmmm... Please disregard my previous message. I just upgraded my 3.99.29 to 4.0.38, which does not exhibit the problem I asked about. Thanks... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 4.0.38 AntispamSniper Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduler/Calendar
I just completed moving TB! to a different machine (XP/SP3) via a TB! backup/restore. Everything went smoothly and seems to be working well. Except... When I click on Tools->Scheduler the calendar display that comes up is for October-November 2007 and an error panel appears with the message "Failed to set calendar selected range". Does anyone know what this is trying to tell me, and how to fix it? Any enlightenment appreciated... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!/XP Installation Question
MFPA wrote: > Incidentally, you can use 4.0.x versions with the v3 licence but not > 4.1.x versions. For this reason, 4.0.38 is still available for > download at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php Thanks for that tidbit... I'll take a look at it. > > Options->Network& Administration->Privileges->Access Rights->User > I don't recognise that option. Is it something XP Pro has that XP Home does not? Sorry, I wasn't very clear. No, that's on the options menu in TB! 3.99. I still haven't figured out exactly what effect it has. > My guess for making TB! visible to all users would be to put the > program shortcuts into the "All Users" folders instead of the ones specific > to the user account that installed it. Bingo! That's what I was looking for. I think I must have known about all users at one time; maybe that's the senior moment I mentioned. Thanks for the nudge! -- Dave Goodman Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB!/XP Installation Question
I'm either having a senior moment, or am just in over my head. I'm moving my TB! 3.99 from an antique W2K system to a semi-antique XP system. On the XP system I want TB! to be available to those with User privileges. The TB! installation must be done with Administrator privileges, and once done is invisible to Users, though Options->Network & Administration->Privileges->Access Rights->User is set. Ideally, each user should be able to access TB! and be confined to his own set of mail files. Possible? How? :) Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated... Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Tom, Sunday, November 16, 2008, 11:29:21 PM, you wrote: > I normally use TB on my desktop but will be travelling shortly. I > could just log on to my accounts via webmail but would miss my many > templates that make life so much easier. If I upgraded to Pro and then > downloaded voyager (free?), how could I then make use of it during my > travels with a laptop? You might be interested Tom in my wife's recent experiences whilst travelling overseas & in fact even before leaving home. Wanting to have everything at her fingers tips, I setup Voyager on our USB key before her departure and visited several Internet cafe shops in town to give it a trial run. Imagine our surprise when it didn't work; not because of any failure of the software or USB key, but because the cafe owners won't let outside executables or programs run away from the hard disc itself. As he said "How do we know you're not adding a key logger or worse". Further discussions revealed that this would be the same attitude at most other places around the globe. So we gave up on that idea choosing instead to use webmail as a substitute. This is not to denigrate Voyager, as I think it's a wonderful idea and it does work terrifically on the home front and when you are travelling very locally and likely to use another home computer, but in Europe & the UK forget it, you will be locked out of the majority of most internet cafe computers. I love the idea though and I'm even more angry at the exorbitant fees some overseas Hotels charge for their internet access. Cheers Dave Cripps in Tasmania -- Best regards, Dave Cripps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hobart, Tasmania Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?
On Thursday, May 22, 2008, Robin Anson wrote: > ... I actually searched the archives and found a response from Marek > Mikus to Dave Goodman back in March 2006 that pointed to autocomplete > at >> "Options | Preferences | Message headers" where click to header and >> select "Edit" I blush, and admit I had forgotten about that exchange with Marek on the same general subject. At that time my history list seemed to be putting a lot of non-pertinent addresses in the drop-down menu as potential auto-completion candidates, so I limited auto-completion to addresses in the default address book. That set-up worked fine for persons with a single address, but allowed no access to a single person's multiple addresses except by opening the address book, finding the person, right clicking, and selecting. Very cumbersome! I have reset to "To:" header options to display and auto-complete from both the history list and from the default address book, and that seems to be working as expected so far. But that result would seem to indicate that multiple addresses (beyond the first entry in the address book) are coming from the history list rather than from the address book. As a practical matter my problem seems solved, but I'm still wondering how people are displaying address book entries (as opposed to history list entries) with the Ctl-+ trick mentioned earlier. Anyway, we may now be flogging the proverbial dead horse here. Thanks a bunch for your help. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?
On Thursday, May 22, 2008, Nick Dutton wrote: DG>> I have, for example, people in the address book with multiple DG>> addresses, as in: DG>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] DG>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] DG>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] DG>> How to auto-complete the address I want for Sam Jones, after I type in DG>> "Sam"? The ctl-+ does not seem to work for this purpose. At least not DG>> here. > This was my problem exactly, and Robin pointed out that this requires > the "+" key on the number pad, not "=", or whatever modifier > your keyboard requires on the top row of keys. > My laptop keyboard has a virtual number pad, with 0-9 being the > "mjkluio789" keys, that I can activate. Never used it though - too > confusing for me, but *this* "+" key worked as expected. Thanks for your reply, Nick. Unfortunately the Ctl-+ (where the "+" is the numeric keypad "+") does nothing here. I've tried just about every combination I can think of to no avail. :( -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cycle Through Auto-Complete Recipients?
Hello Rick, > It's working here. You must type the first 3 letters of the name to > trigger the list of course but then it works fine > You can also down arrow once the list appears to the one you want I must be missing something here. Are we talking about finding addresses in the history list, or are we talking about multiple addresses for the same person in the personal address book? I have, for example, people in the address book with multiple addresses, as in: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] How to auto-complete the address I want for Sam Jones, after I type in "Sam"? The ctl-+ does not seem to work for this purpose. At least not here. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hello Costas, > I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to > use with The Bat. Yet another vote for AntispamSniper. Here are my current statistics: Received messages: 46324 Error rate:0.28% False negatives: 0.25% False positives: 0.04% -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail directory
Hello Tom, > However, I notice that the mail directory is stored on c:drive in > appdata/ > Can I change this to a different drive to keep my data and operating > software separate? ... Sure. You can put the message database anywhere you like. See: Options->Preferences->System->Mail Directory -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: nntp?
Hello Jos, > A download link > http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkdetails&lid=18&ttitle=MyGate_2.6.0.171 Thanks, Jos. Appreciate the link. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: nntp?
Hello Peter, >> Is there any workable solution to reading (text only) usenet groups >> from within TB!? And preferably storing saved postings within the TB! >> database? > Well, you've answered the question yourself: MyGate. Thanks for your reply, Peter. But is MyGate currently available and supported? I did a search of the archives and forum; the only references I found were 2-4 years old and included a 2005 note from the developer to the effect that he was giving up on the program. Further, I've not found a source for MyGate; the links I've found are all 404s. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
nntp?
I seem to recall that quite a few years ago there was talk of nntp (newsreader) support in TB!. Also, I recall that there was an add-on (MyGate?) that served the purpose. Is there any workable solution to reading (text only) usenet groups from within TB!? And preferably storing saved postings within the TB! database? -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outbound Problem
Hello Bradley, > Hate to teach anyone to suck eggs but have you tried pinging your SMTP > server when you are having problems? ... Thanks for the nudge in that direction. I can't believe I didn't think of pinging the server to be sure it was up, but doing so led me to a partial explanation of what has been happening. Turns out to be a little off topic for tbudl, but I found that manually querying particular ISP DNS servers provided by DHCP results in one of two server IPs being returned. One of those servers seems to be permanently down, so when that address is returned I get the no connection error. If the other is returned, the mail goes out. I have no idea why a DNS query on 'smtp.comcast.net' (from my location) returns two different IPs, seemingly at random, one of which is dead. Thanks a bunch for your thoughts... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.1 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outbound Problem
Hello Thomas, > I get this when the server cannot be reached - either because it is > down or the internet connection is faulty. > It's a simple reply, but it is the cause over here. The log just tells > the truth. May this be the same at your location? Oh, I don't doubt that the log is telling the truth. But _why_ can't connect? Failure of a connection to a single server would be understandable, but I connect to three different geographically dispersed smtp servers, and outbounds to all three fail when I have the problem. While TB!'s outbounds are 'hung' I can connect perfectly using other internet protocols, i.e. http, ftp, etc. I suppose I should install second email program and see whether it exhibits the same symptoms. I guess that would tell me whether I have a TB! problem or a system problem. This one really has me stumped. Anyway, I appreciate your reply... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.1 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outbound Problem
Hello Ian, > A friend of mine had a similar issue with Outlook Express. She had > changed ISP's recently and still had the DNS entries in Windows for > her old ISP. Changing them to the ones for her new ISP saw the problem > go away. Thanks for your response, Ian. I have in fact checked the DNS entries, though they do not appear to be the problem, since all internet connection types other than smtp (http, ftp, etc) work perfectly. Appreciate your response, though... :) -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.1 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Outbound Problem
I've had an intermittent ongoing problem for the past several months. When sending email it quite properly goes to the outbox and an attempt is made to connect to the smtp server, but after some time the attempt aborts with the error message "Could not connect to the server", which is also shown in the account log. This happens to outbounds on all of my three different accounts. I've enabled protocol logging, but since there is no connection and hence no protocol exchange, the protocol log remains empty. The smtp settings in TB! seem to be correct, and have not changed in several years. The problem is intermittent; sometimes a message will be sent and the next message, a few seconds later, hangs. Once a message hangs, it hangs indefinitely. Restarting TB! is no help. And while the TB! outbound is hanging, other internet connections work normally. Any thoughts would be appreciated... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.25 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.1 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment directories
Hello Everybody, As a new chum to version 3.99.24 I have now safely imported all my mail folders from Outlook, and Contacts, but I'm wondering where all these new files are stored. One particular folder in Outlook had many file attaches, all of which I still want linked to the messages. My question revolves around the new mail in TB and those file attaches; Does TB store them in a new directory as a result of the import process ?In other words, all links to Outlook are gone? Don't want to delete the mail folders in Outlook until I'm sure. Cheers Dave -- Best regards, Dave Cripps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hobart, Tasmania Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: contact import problems
Hello Roelof, Saturday, September 15, 2007, 11:49:39 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Dave, > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:27:39 +1000GMT (15-9-2007, 3:27 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: DC>> I've just this last 10 minutes purchased 3.99.24 version of the Bat DC>> (Home) and I'm having trouble importing the contacts from Outlook. DC>> The mail folders import just fine, but the contacts tell me there are DC>> 124 contacts to import, and it starts, but stops at about 30% and no DC>> matter if I leave it for 10 minutes or so nothing else happens. > Can you export the contacts to something else? CSV or vCard come to > mind. TB should be able to import those easily. Yes that's what I did in the end, found a program that'll export the Outlook Contacts to a Vcard File, then an import from there into TB. Glad to see the back of Outlook's burgeoning single file system of storing Message data. Thanks for the response. -- Best regards, Dave Cripps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hobart, Tasmania Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
contact import problems
Hello, I've just this last 10 minutes purchased 3.99.24 version of the Bat (Home) and I'm having trouble importing the contacts from Outlook. The mail folders import just fine, but the contacts tell me there are 124 contacts to import, and it starts, but stops at about 30% and no matter if I leave it for 10 minutes or so nothing else happens. It' still early days for me setting TB up, but the last thing I want is to have to retype all those contacts again. Any ideas anyone? -- Best regards, Dave mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Engines
Hello rich, > Is anyone happily using any of the desktop seach applications with TB > awareness? Archivarius indexes TB! message bases nicely: http://www.likasoft.com/ -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.3 AntispamSniper 2.6.0.7 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduling Backups
I want to have TB! schedule automatic backups every 7th day at a particular time. That's no problem, but how do you specify the day of the week on which that backup is to take place? I suppose I'm missing something obvious and will be embarrassed when I find the answer, but I don't see it. TIA -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.3 AntispamSniper 2.5.0.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Log
Hello Marek, > go to "Account properties", open "Transport" section and You will see > "Protocol logging" section there. Thank you, Marek. Apparently I'm not bright enough to expand the tree under "Transport", so I never noticed it there. Appreciate the pointer. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP Log
A detailed SMTP log (not the account log) can be turned on and off in TB! I know, because I turned it on some months ago. Now I cannot remember how to turn it off. Would some kind soul give me a clue? Thanks... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outgoing Mail Delays
> Two different computers, two different mail programs, but the same > problem. Interesting, because here the problem is confined to the one Windows system running TB! I also use Kmail on a Linux system connected to the same ISP, same internet connection and through the same router. I've only seen this delay on the Windows/TB! system; never on the Linux/Kmail system. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help
Hello Carlos, > I'm using the latest professional version and it was working fine, > all of a sudden, when I send an email it takes forever and then puts > it in the outbox, telling me the server aborted the connection. Sorry, I don't have the answer, but after years of using TB! a few months ago I also started having delays in sending. In my case, on pressing the send button the connection centre opens, but no connection is made for 30-60 seconds. Finally a connection is completed, and the message is sent. I'm always connecting to the same SMTP server, but the delay I mentioned happens intermittently. But it does occur about on about 70% of messages sent. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test -Ident (113) closed
Hello Roelof, DG>> Closed, but not stealthed. > Bitten by a folder template? Yup. Realized it just after I clicked "send". And I think there may be one more coming. Sorry... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another SMTP test
Any delay? Check new smtp log. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Test -Ident (113) closed
Closed, but not stealthed. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blue Lines
On 1/24/07, danger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you considered either having him remove outlook from his computer? I would heartily support any suggestions to remove outhouse from any computer! -- Dave Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blue Lines
On 1/24/07, danger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Mike, Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 12:08:36 PM, you wrote: MG> A friend sent me an email that he asked me to edit and return to him. MG> When I hit reply, I get his text with a thick blue line to the MG> left, and it's nearly impossible to edit what he sent me in any coherent way. If you want to retain your HTML receiving/sending settings, you could always copy & paste the content of his email into a text editor, make necessary modifications, then copy & paste into an email back to your friend. -- Dave Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB erroneously checks mail at startup
Hello Robin, > On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 at 14:48:35 +, Barry wrote: >> Robin Anson wrote: >> >>> Well, that's similar, except that mine doesn't ALWAYS check on >>> startup. It only does it about 50% of the time. >> >> Perhaps this is a bug that's crept in with 3.85? >> >> I thought that it was me at first because one could argue that if an >> interval was set then the account should be checked automatically on >> startup and thereafter at the interval specified. >> >> For me I expected the first check to be carried out after the first >> interval. >> >> Then if I wanted a check on startup I could ask for that. >> >> What do you think? > However, I asked about this once before and it didn't seem to be > happening to anyone else. ... > So it happens to at least two of us, but am I right in thinking it > happens all the time for you if you have periodical checking enabled? It happens here also. We have three accounts; on all three periodic checking is enabled, check on startup is disabled. Still, TB! checks mail on all three on perhaps one startup in five. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.85.03 AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google Mail
On 12/4/06, Roland Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Dave! I have now tried to send a message from my Google Mail account to an other account of me and I get: Unknown CA Certificate The server didn't provide a root certificate during the session, and there is no corresponding root certificate in your address book. This connection may not be secure. Please contact your server administrator. I don't use Google for SMTP so I'm sorry I'm unable to help with that issue. -- Dave Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google Mail
On 12/4/06, Roland Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I get further on "FETCH-Server not within reach"! I also don't find for the pop-server the possibility to set "SSL"! In TB! it's called TLS. Does this screenshot help? http://www.dave31175.com/gmail.gif -- Dave Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google Mail
On 12/4/06, Roland Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have problems with my new account "Google Mail". I don't get mails and I cannot send mails. Does anyone have the right settings for me by private mail? Unfortunately Google Mail don't have the settings for TheBat! I found the settings here ( https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287&query=pop3&topic=&type=f&ctx=search) sufficient for setting up my gmail account in TB! -- Dave Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating TB! to new computer
Hello Thomas, DG>> My objective is to do a new installation of TB!, from scratch, on a new, DG>> freshly formatted system ... > A) Using the internal backup/restore function > While still in the old system, go to Tools / Backup... and click on > everything. This will create a .tbk file. ... Thanks, Thomas. System 'A' worked very well indeed. Appreciate your input. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.85.03 AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Migrating TB! to new computer
My apologies... I know this subject has been covered from time to time, but I'm unable to lay my hands on a 'cookbook' for setting up a fresh installation of TB! on a new computer. My objective is to do a new installation of TB!, from scratch, on a new, freshly formatted system, and yet transfer whatever is necessary for the new TB! to come up with all folders, settings, and mail database intact and ready to go. Can anyone suggest a step-by-step procedure? Or give me a pointer to such? Version info in .sig. Any enlightenment appreciated... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.85.03 AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/25/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carnak...er...Chris, to further challenge your psychic powers, how do you think BellSouth will respond? Tell me to take a hike? Offer to issue me a new IP, with no guarantee that it'll be any better? Tell me to contact SORBS, et. al? What? :) It's not your IP address that is causing the problem, it is the IP address of their server. I have no experience with BellSouth's tech support, but it seems to me it would certainly be in their best interest to make every effort to get their IP address delisted. -- Dave Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Bill, >> FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, >> with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using >60 >> as the spam score. > Is that with the commercial or free version? The commercial version. I ran the free version for just a few days, then registered. I should have been more careful with the figures I mentioned. They are accurate, but they do not represent *all* messages received since the original installation. I ran the plugin for about ten days for a learning period; then reset the statistics back to zero to see how it performed. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.80.06 AntispamSniper 1.6.4 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Kitty, > I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the > spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should > I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives > but it is missing a lot. FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using >60 as the spam score. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.80.06 AntispamSniper 1.6.4 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: messages
On 8/9/06, Ariane Furer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Sirs, Please stop all the messages. I received to much messages, I dont want it. You subscribed yourself to a mailing list. If you don't want to be on the list, please unsubscribe yourself by going to this link: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl and looking for the text near the bottom of the page that says "To unsubscribe from TBUDL..." -- Dave Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP's Blocking TheBat
On 7/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've recently had a couple of emails blocked from two different ISP's who claim The Bat is a known spammer. Of course I know this is bull, and I forwarded the info at Ritlabs on the subject to their IT Dept's to no avail. Can I use a filter to change the x-mail header when I send an email to these two people who use these ISP's? I know under Options / Preferences / General, you can uncheck "Use X-Mailer Header in Messages" to remove it altogether. Perhaps others will know whether you can remove it on a per recipient basis. -- Dave Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Control of stored messages in 3.80.03
Hello Roelof, DG>>... there is only the check box, no window into which to DG>> enter a numerical value. > That's a known bug for those of us who're using large fonts. Set > Windows temporarily back to normal fonts and you can change the number > of days. Afterwards you can set your preferred font size again. I just installed the freshly released 3.80.06. In this version I can see a tiny sliver of the windows for numerical input, too small to see or change the value therein. That sliver remains the same size no matter how the folder->properties->general window is resized. So the issue is still unresolved for those of us using large fonts. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.80.06 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Control of stored messages in 3.80.03
Roelof and Alexander, DG>> ... no window into which to enter a numerical value. > That's a known bug for those of us who're using large fonts. Set > Windows temporarily back to normal fonts and you can change the number > of days. Afterwards you can set your preferred font size again. Temporarily reducing the font size did the trick. Thanks very much to both of you for your prompt responses. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.80.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Control of stored messages in 3.80.03
A month ago I installed 3.80.03 over my previous 3.71.03. Today I needed to change the length of time stored messages are kept in a specific folder. Going to folder->properties->general I found the expected check boxes for controlling maximum of age and number stored messages, but on each of these lines there is only the check box, no window into which to enter a numerical value. The 'repair' option under the TB! installer has been no help. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.80.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Color Folder Name?
I would like to be able to color the name of a folder, as it appears in the folder tree pane, in response to some condition in the folder. For example, have the folder name appear in red if there are any flagged messages in the folder. Possible? TIA... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.71.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard Shortcut Editor - Where?
I'm looking for the keyboard shortcut (not to be confused with system hotkeys) editor in 3.71.03. The help file (bless their hearts) says: "The Shortcut Editor is available in most of The Bat!'s non-modal windows (such as main window, separate message browser, address book, message editor) - you can invoke it by using the View|Edit Shortcuts menu command of any of such window." Perhaps age is making me blind and stupid, but I can't find it. Any hints? TIA. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.71.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AutoComplete Settings - Where?
On 3/13/2006 Thomas Fernandez wrote: >>> Where are the settings for address and history AutoComplete located >>> in 3.71.03? According to the help file, the are at >>> options->preferences->system, but they don't seem to be there (or >>> anywhere else I've searched). MM>> "Options | Preferences | Message headers" where click to header and select MM>> "Edit". > I think he means something else (and if he doesn't, I make it my > question): When I type a recipient's address into the TO field, TB > will auto-complete. Not sure whether from histroy or the AB. However, > there used to be a place where I can choose whether TB autocompletes > these addresses or not. I cannot find that either. No, Marek understood my question perfectly, and it is the same question you have asked, Thomas. RIT labs has hidden those settings in a most obscure place, but they are exactly where Marek said. Once you get into the edit headers panel, click on 'To:', then on the 'edit' button and you'll find them. Thanks again, Marek. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.71.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AutoComplete Settings - Where?
On 3/13/2006 Marek Mikus wrote: >> Where are the settings for address and history AutoComplete located in >> 3.71.03? ... > "Options | Preferences | Message headers" where click to header and > select "Edit". Thank you, Marek. I would never have found them there. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.71.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AutoComplete Settings - Where?
Where are the settings for address and history AutoComplete located in 3.71.03? According to the help file, the are at options->preferences->system, but they don't seem to be there (or anywhere else I've searched). TIA. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.71.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 1.62
On 3/7/2006 Stuart Cuddy wrote: > The term "Match" means that it will use Regex. If you use > "Contains" it does not use Regex. Aha! Thanks, Stuart. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.71.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 1.62
>> I've been running the now antique v.1.62r and am about to upgrade to the >> newest v.3.n. But there is a complication. For various reasons, v.1.62r >> is installed on my D: drive, where it lives happily with all it's data. >> ... > A pain-free way, as to (de)installation itself, would be something like > this... > Copy your mail databases (usually the folder "Mail") somewhere on D: > drive. > Deinstall the old TB. > Install the new TB (and tell it where the mail database is). > The rest of the happenings is not necessarily pain-free though, ... Thank you, Mica, for your thoughts. The upgrade to 3.x along with the change to drive C: went quite smoothly with respect to the program installation and the program finding the .TBB files. All is running smoothly, but you were right... I'm having to do some of the configuration and filter set up manually. With regard to the new filtering setup, I see in the help file a reference to "Advanced filtering conditions". But I do not see them anywhere in the sorting office. Also, I make considerable use of regex in filters, but I have not been able to get them to work in the new filtering setup. In version 1.x there was a checkbox for regex, but I don't find one in 3.x (unless it is in the "Advanced filtering conditions" which I can't find. If anyone would care to contribute a pointer on these to issues it would be much appreciated. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v.3.71.03 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade from 1.62
I've been running the now antique v.1.62r and am about to upgrade to the newest v.3.n. But there is a complication. For various reasons, v.1.62r is installed on my D: drive, where it lives happily with all it's data. However, I now want to install the new v.3.n in the more customary C:\Program Files\xxx. It is essential that the mail databases be left on the D: drive and be accessible to the new installation on C:. I've been uncertain whether to just install the newer version to C:, then tell it where the .TBB files, etc. are, and then perhaps uninstall the old version. Or vice versa. Or whatever. Any words of wisdom on the best way to accomplish this in as pain-free a way as possible would be greatly appreciated. Thanks... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v1.62r Windows 2000 [5.0.2195 Service Pack 4] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I tried to like The Bat!, really
--On Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:35 -0500 Mary Bull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Re-write is in progress, per 9Val on TBBETA. I realize that. I'll check back in a few months to see how things are looking. Maybe someday I'll be able to return to my true love, TB :) (...although I've been saying that for 2 years!) Do run a client that meets your needs, please, for now. But, stay in touch? Of course ;) I'll still be around on TBOT, although presently I have no hope whatsoever of keeping up with the deluge of traffic there! -- Dave Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I tried to like The Bat!, really
--On Thursday, July 28, 2005 13:57 +0200 Vili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DG> 1) On one account, after unsubscribing from the only mailbox that had new DG> messages, the account's unread message count didn't change (I guess this DG> isn't quite a showstopper, but it certainly is annoying). You did not syncronize the local and server mailbox. This is basic functionality. I shouldn't have to go out of my way and do anything special to tell my mail client to update the unread message count. It should just happen. DG> 2) Using server-side filtering, TB! still doesn't know I have new messages DG> in folders until I've selected those folders. (Maybe there is a way around DG> this, but I shouldn't have to go out of my way to have my mail client check DG> for new messages...) ??? If you KNOW, UNDERSTAND, what IMAP is, you should know, that the mailbox's info should be read to get the correct info. So, setup automatic checking of mailboxes. Again, basic functionality. I shouldn't have to tinker around with various options to make my mail client check for new mail. It should just happen. DG> I haven't spent any time playing around with IMAP Fine Tune options or DG> anything else because I shouldn't have to. Ok. So, you buy a car, and you dont worry about what kind of fuel you use, what kind of tire pressure you have, etc. I buy a car. I check the tire pressure and make sure the gas tank is full (with my mail client I give it IMAP/SMTP server names, usernames, passwords). I can then start the engine and reasonably expect to drive to my destination. If I bought a car and was required to open the hood and modify tubes, levers, and gadgets in the engine before I could drive the car to my destination, I would return to the place where I bought the car and tell them it doesn't work and I want my money back. I DID download Mulberry and tried. Man, that has a lot of settings also. It sure does! However, after I installed Mulberry, I set up my accounts, and then before I looked at *anything else* in the preferences and options, I was informed of my unread messages and was able to read the (correct) messages as I selected them. In fact this has been the case with *every* IMAP-capable client I've tried, except TB. My gripe isn't that TB is incapable of providing basic functionality. My gripe is that it won't provide that functionality until I've fussed around trying to figure out which magical combination of checkboxes need to be selected in order to *force* it to provide basic functionality. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I tried to like The Bat!, really
So after months and months of watching TB!'s progress, waiting and hoping IMAP would become usable enough I could return to TB!, I decided yesterday that I would give up, unsub from the lists, and just stick to an old copy of TB! I have lying around for my one POP account (and the only reason I would need that is because TB! saves attachments to their own folder, a capability I haven't come across in other MUAs). But this morning I saw a message from Allie (aka ACM, aka Curtis, etc) on a non-Bat list recommending that people try out IMAP on the latest release version of TB! and that it had come a long ways (of course including a YMMV disclaimer). So I downloaded 3.51.10, fired it up, added two IMAP accounts, and right out of the box, 3 showstoppers: 1) On one account, after unsubscribing from the only mailbox that had new messages, the account's unread message count didn't change (I guess this isn't quite a showstopper, but it certainly is annoying). 2) Using server-side filtering, TB! still doesn't know I have new messages in folders until I've selected those folders. (Maybe there is a way around this, but I shouldn't have to go out of my way to have my mail client check for new messages...) 3) After deleting a few messages from a folder, selecting any message in the message list would display the incorrect message. (Again, perhaps there is a fix for this, but I shouldn't have to trick my mail client into showing me the currently selected message instead of randomly selecting a message to show me...) I haven't spent any time playing around with IMAP Fine Tune options or anything else because I shouldn't have to. A mail client's default settings should be sufficient to provide basic functionality. If I have to take extra time to try to figure out what default settings need to be changed in order to achieve basic functionality, something is just not right. I realize that IMAP issues are apparently supposed to be a high priority in the present beta series. However, I believe it has been two years since IMAP was initially implemented in TB! and it still doesn't have basic functionality out of the box! So, I've waited an extra day in order to give TB! another chance, but I think it's time now to simply give up on TB! and move on. I would still consider TB! to be a top notch POP client, but for IMAP needs, almost any other IMAP-capable MUA could exceed TB's performance. Before I unsub, I just want to thank the TBUDL & TBBETA communities for all the help and assistance you have been over the years in answering questions, overcoming problems, and making my TB experience much better and more useful than it otherwise would have been. -- Dave Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how long to unsubscribe?
--On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:01 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you have a rampant spam engine at work protecting you from things it thinks you don't need, you may not have seen the confirm messages. That could be it... I'll check my spamcatcher folder. Thanks! -- Dave Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how long to unsubscribe?
Yesterday I sent TBBETA & TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for unsubscribe requests to be completed? -- Dave Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Extracting Email addresses from BAT
Hi there Is it possible to extract all the email address received to an address book. What is the best way to add any new email incoming to an address book automatically? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shortcut keys in 3.5?
I am not sure if I am just malfunctioning this morning but I can't find the option to change the shortcut keys in BAT 3.5? It is suppose to be under the View option. -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat and Kaspersky
Is there a anti virus plug in for the Bat and how does the Spam engine work with the Bat, again is there perhaps a plugin? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Templates & backgrounds
Hi there I would like to have a template using my letterhead with an html format. I can certainly create an email each time and insert my letterhead into the email but how do I save this as a template? I would also like to use backgrounds like I used in Outlook, can I use these backgrounds some how? Kind Regards Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking about v3
Melissa Reese said the following on 03/07/2005 01:35: Is the current release version (non-beta) stable and fully functional? Are there any known issues that I should be aware of? As long as you don't need IMAP, you'll probably be OK. -- Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Archives
capocasa said the following on 02/15/2005 13:50: DG> capocasa said the following on 02/15/2005 13:32: DG> capocasa said the following on 02/15/2005 12:58: When I go to this address That's strange. I've tried both browsers, Mozilla and IE and the Find button in the archives is not linked. DG> It's not a button, just a form field. Fill the field and hit the "Enter" DG> key. Thanks Dave, I'm redfaced! No need, it appeared that it should have been linked as a "Submit" hyperlink as search fields typically have a "Submit" button or link. -- Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Archives
capocasa said the following on 02/15/2005 13:32: DG> capocasa said the following on 02/15/2005 12:58: When I go to this address http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ to search for a subject the search button doesn't work. Seems to defeat the purpose. Am I missing something? DG> Hmmm, if I type something in the "Find" box and hit "Enter", it works fine. That's strange. I've tried both browsers, Mozilla and IE and the Find button in the archives is not linked. It's not a button, just a form field. Fill the field and hit the "Enter" key. -- Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Archives
capocasa said the following on 02/15/2005 12:58: When I go to this address http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ to search for a subject the search button doesn't work. Seems to defeat the purpose. Am I missing something? Hmmm, if I type something in the "Find" box and hit "Enter", it works fine. -- Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have returned
Chris Weaven said the following on 01/20/2005 10:52: If I were to be totally honest here, the only thing I'm really missing from TB! is templates. Working with Thunderbird and IMAP with server side filtering for a few months now has made me realise that I'm not as reliant on TB! as I thought I was. I'm using TBird's filtering, and while there are things I miss about TB!'s more advanced filtering, at least TBird's filtering works smoothly with IMAP, which last I tried TB!, the filtering with IMAP was very quirky and unreliable. So I would agree with missing templates, and also add that I very much miss MicroEd. Once IMAP works well, then I'm sure TB! will be my client of choice, but until then, I'm more than happy with Thunderbird. As Allie puts it so well, 'it works'. Ditto. Although IMAP will have to work as well or better than TBird in every respect before I'll go back. If basic IMAP functionality is inferior, it is not worth paying for even for templates/editor/etc. -- Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
Tony Boom wrote: Which is just one reason why I don't like Thunderbird. It completely quotes the WHOLE message regardless of what is highlighted True. and totally ignores sig delims. Works fine here, v1.0 on WinXP and v0.8 on Mandrake. Just be thankful you don't use IMAP or you'd be cursing The Bat! as vehemently as you're cursing TBird! For IMAP, TBird's 1.0 version is heads and shoulders above TB!'s 3.0 version. And as it is a young client, I'm sure many of the minor quirks will be worked out and major niceties will be added as time goes on. -- Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Complicated Filter?
Hi there I am sure this is possible but I have given up trying. Our mail server generates messages that it thinks are Spam and prefixes the subject with the heading "Probably Spam". In most cases this is not the case.I would like to extract these from my normal mail and put them into a "Probably Spam" folder - this much I have obviously easily achieved. Now comes the difficult part for me, I would like to copy the message to another folder called "Send Probably Spam" and change the Subject to "nonspam" and the the recipient to be a a specific email address on our mail server. Again I have been able to do this if I get the message put into the Outbox, but I would like to check the message before sending it hence wanting to put it in a draft folder first. Your help would be greatly appreciated -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: What is the best Spam program to use with the Bat?)
Hi tbudl Marck> Dear Dave, Marck> @10-Nov-2004, 11:08 +0200 (10-Nov 09:08 UK time) Dave Thomas [DT] in Marck> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DT>> DT>> Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: DT>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Marck> Marck> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not Marck> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have Marck> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Dave. Marck> )<)))'> Marck> Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists Marck> of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. Marck> This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without Marck> the signature and list footers since everything below and including Marck> the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. Marck> You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in Marck> your templates. Marck> Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any Marck> difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being Marck> courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added Marck> to your signature by the list server. Marck> To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of Marck> private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you Marck> subscribed. Marck> Thank you. Marck> Ok, sorted Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is the best Spam program to use with the Bat?
Hi tbudl Can I use K9 & Spampal if I am receiving my mail through a server at work? Does it run on my machine or needs to be accessed through the web? Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za == >> Hi guys >> >> I was wondering if someone could recommend a good spam >> filtering >> program to use with the bat? >> >> >> -- >> Kind Regards >> >> Dave Thomas >> Product Manager >> Psionet >> >> Tel +27 21 683 1192 >> Fax +27 21 683 1196 >> >> Web: www.psion.co.za >> >> >> >> Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: >> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html CDWOS> Hi Dave CDWOS> I personally use K9 and have used Spampal both without any problem. CDWOS> I have found both to be effective. CDWOS> Regards CDWOS> - Charles - CDWOS> Using The Bat! v3.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 CDWOS> CDWOS> Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: CDWOS> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What is the best Spam prgram to use with the bat?
Hi tbudl pop3 Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za == Alexander> Hello Dave, Alexander> Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 8:45:30 AM, you wrote: >> I was wondering if someone could recommend a good spam filtering >> program to use with the bat? Alexander> What mail protocol are you using, POP3 or IMAP? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is the best Spam prgram to use with the bat?
Hi guys I was wondering if someone could recommend a good spam filtering program to use with the bat? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayesit
Thanks Mike == MikeD> Hello Dave, MikeD> Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 5:24:51 AM, you wrote: DT>> How do you install this Bayesit filter? MikeD> First unarchive the TBP file someplace in either the TB executable MikeD> tree or the data tree. I put mine in Prg_files/TheBat/Bayesit MikeD> Go to Options / PLugins. MikeD> Click add and then point at the bayesit.tbp file, click OK and you are MikeD> basically done. It will then be set up with some defaults. You will MikeD> then need to train it before it will be any good at recognizing spam. MikeD> There are two ways to do that. MikeD> First, just continue to receive mail as you do now and for each spam MikeD> you find, use the menu Specials - Mark as Spam (I have assigned that MikeD> to Alt-J (for junk) on my system). It will have assumed everything is MikeD> "ham" (i.e. non-spam) until you mark it as such, so you don't have to MikeD> do anything about those. MikeD> Or, if you have saved some spam and some "ham" messages saved on your MikeD> system, you can save some time by training it on those messages using MikeD> the specials 'mark as junk' and 'mark as not junk' to "get a leg up" MikeD> as it were. Just be sure to get at least as much ham as spam in your MikeD> training so that it has a good idea what it good stuff or you will end MikeD> up with a lot of false positives. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit
How do you install this Bayesit filter? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayesit
Thanks Mike, yes hopefully someone will == MikeD> Hello Dave, MikeD> Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 6:31:10 AM, you wrote: DT>> Where do I find the link to the latest version MikeD> Sorry, I no longer have that link handy and I cannot read the site MikeD> well enough to find the link MikeD> Hopefully someone else will be able to post a copy of the link for MikeD> you. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit
Where do I find the link to the latest version -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
kav plugin?
Hi all, I use nod32 as my primary av program, but I also have kav pro version 4 for on demand scanning. My question is; is there a kav plugin for TB! 3 and if so, where would I get it please? I have tried googling to no avail...:-( Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) pgpGPDakjPUSj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Questions
Hi guys As a newby I have a couple of question that maybe some of you experienced chaps can answer Is there a way to default the cursor to the top of folders? I am subscribed to this mailing list and I get separate emails from everyone, is there a way combine them all into one email every day? Is there another list I should join? Is there a macro to automatically backup BAT? Is Bayesit the best spam filter to use? Parking, Flagging - are these useful features and how would you use them? I like to put antidotes to emails, is using the "Remind Later" feature the best way of doing this? How well does the "Chat" function work? Would you recommend doing a full backup or is the Update function reliable? Many thanks -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help with percentage sign
Hi there A friend of mine is using BAT version 2 and when trying to create a mass mailing with the use of a percentage sign is having a problem eg "12% discount", when she looks in the outbox the percentage sign disappears? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Duplicate emails in version 3
I get quite a few duplicate emails in version 3, only in Junk, is there a way I can stop this? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?
Hi there, how do I configure the filter in version 3? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter for Bat 3?
> Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for Strings Location > Presence Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kludges Yes Options: Regular > expressions (Checked). How do I set up a filter for BAT 3 for this newsgroup? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile - selective use?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't this be accomplished through your TB! mail account settings? The accounts you want to access through POPFile you would use 127.0.0.1 as your POP server with the appropriate username settings. The accounts you don't want to access through POPFile, you would set up to access the POP server directly. Yes that's right, I was just checking that it's not going to screw something up if some are doing one thing and others another. I can't think of any reason it would screw anything up (although I've been wrong before...). I seem to recall having done this very thing when I was using POP accounts. -- Dave Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile - selective use?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO you think I can install POPFile (again) but this time only have it proxying for some accounts and leave others to not be proxied? Wouldn't this be accomplished through your TB! mail account settings? The accounts you want to access through POPFile you would use 127.0.0.1 as your POP server with the appropriate username settings. The accounts you don't want to access through POPFile, you would set up to access the POP server directly. -- Dave Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Mark Partous wrote: DWG> Does The Bat 3 still have the connection center malfunction? Don't have any problem with it. What's malfunctioning for you? I don't know what Deniss's problem with the CC is, but for me, if I abort/delete all tasks in the CC, I am unable to close TB as it says tasks are still active. Clicking Abort on the "can't close" dialog does no good and I'm forced to kill TB from Task Manager. -- Dave Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problems after going from v3 to 2.12
Hi, Having tried v3 I went back to v2.12 but now seem to have problems with unread counts on my folders. I have a virtual folder which shows unread messages in a number of selected folders. If I read a message in the virtual folder it seems that intermittently the unread count and possibly the unread mark doesn't get reset on the original email and original folder. Is this likely to be a bug with v2.12? Something I have done wrong? Or a result of my backed out upgrade? -- Regards, Dave Mellors Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Lynn wrote: M3> The best suggestion that I have heard is stay with M3> 2.12. It works well enough for me (but I don't need M3> IMAP ... which was promised for 2 ... wasn't it? :-/ ) And has it improved with v3? I've tried at least 3 other IMAP clients which are supposed to be excellent, but if that's the case, I figure IMAP has a high vacuum rating ... I would hope TB could do better :-( I've decided I'm not even going to spend my money or time to find out if IMAP is any better on V3. I purchased the V2 upgrade a year ago for the promised fully-functioning IMAP support. Initially IMAP was quite unusable and I had to resort to other clients. Eventually I returned to TB when IMAP became somewhat usable. However, one year later with version 2.12, IMAP performance is unsatisfactory. Several times a day I get a parade of exception errors and have to kill TB from the task manager. Several times a day TB closes of it's own accord. When I reopen after either of these events, there are two copies of every message in every folder. I have to close and reopen TB to rectify that. There are numerous other annoyances and performance problems with IMAP. I had stuck it out thinking that surely the bugs would be worked out and v2 would prove eventually to be a stable IMAP client. However it never did. I've paid Ritlabs once for a functional IMAP client and never received it. I'm not going to pay again just on the hope that maybe someday it will be a good IMAP client. I'll stay subscribed to the lists and will keep watching TB. Maybe after some time I'll give v3 a try and see if has become an acceptable IMAP client, but for the time being I'm evaluating alternatives. -- Dave Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: For me, proper formatting of text-only messages, including the ability to re-flow quotes, is very important, and neither Outlook nor Opera's M2 or AK-Mail or Thunderbird (haven't tried others) has any function like that of TB's "ALT-L" keyboard shortcut - I'm using it all the time. MicroEd and Templates are what I am already missing most about TB by moving to Thunderbird, but I've come to a point where those features are not sufficient for me to put up with TB's poor IMAP performance. -- Dave Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version3 ?!
MAU wrote: I think I will stick with 2.12 and look for another client :( If you don't want to upgrade for whatever reason, I suggest you stay with 2.12 (bugs included). You are not going to find anything better out there at the moment. Maybe prettier, but not better. I second the motion, IF one is only using POP3. As an IMAP user, I'm just too frustrated with all the exception errors, spontaneous closing, doubling of messages, and flaky filtering/syncing to be able to recommend TB to any IMAP users. Of course there are some IMAP users whose experience is not as negative as mine, but as for myself, I'm already putting Thunderbird to the test. I'll sorely miss MicroEd and Templates, but everything else seems to very pleasantly be running smooth as silk in Thunderbird. -- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Top posting (was: Quick pre-install questions)
> Dave Merrill, [DM] wrote: [snip] > > > This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. OK! Sorry! I confess to not having read the list rules cover to cover, which I probably should have done. I most likely wouldn't have kept straight which lists prefer and reject top-posting anyway though... I've been through multiple discussions about this on other lists. I personally think it's actually more efficient to put new stuff at the top, with context below for those who need and want it. But when in Rome, it's Fine By Me (:-). Thanks for your patience with my local-newbie ways. -- Dave Merrill Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[4]: Quick pre-install questions
I bet you're right it's not supported. It isn't true that .pst files are impenetrable though. A number of programs import from them, including The Bat if I'm not mistaken, but maybe just msgs, not calendar items. -- Dave Merrill > I don't think there is any way to get data across from Outlook to > Calendarscope. I went down this road when I first evaluated it. In the > end I printed out the monthly display from Outlook and manually > entered it all into Calendarscope. Took a few hours, but it seems > worth it, for me it was anyway. A pity the author has so obviously > tried to improve on the calendar module of Outlook, with some success, > but didn't make it easier to migrate. On the other hand, Outlook's pst > format is proprietory, which is MS speak for "we don't let you fiddle > with it!" If you have any greater success than I did (which was a > couple of years ago) I would love to know. > > -- > Peter in New Zealand. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[2]: Quick pre-install questions
Thanks, I'l check it out. Looked nice from a quick look, with the one exception that I didn't see a way to directly import my existing stuff from Outlook; maybe as text. Thanks, -- Dave Merrill > Take a look at www.calendarscope.com > > It's shareware. I have used it for a couple of years now, and it > hasn't blinked once. It's pretty well like the calendaring part of > Outlook, but has more configurability. Like you can tweak and adjust > the colours of events to what you want, rather than being linited to a > fixed set of colours. There's heaps of other things that can be > tweaked as well. If you are used to the calendar in Outlook you will > love this program. I can't recommend it too highly. It sits in my task > bar tray together with The Bat! all the time, and the two provide all > the functionality I need to replace Outlook. (Although they don't > actually interact at all.) > > Hope this helps. > > -- > Peter in New Zealand. > > > > Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html > > Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mail dispatcher fails
Hello Roelof, Thursday, July 29, 2004, 2:25:01 PM, you wrote: AM>> In the main window CTRL+Enter generates a reply message. AM>> In the editor CTRL+Enter sends the message. > And that's a real bother, for if you keep it pressed too long or with > a slight tremble your unedited reply gets sent. That's why I have "Confirm Immediate Sending" checked in the Account Properties! I was bitten too many times by the accidental sending bug! -- Dave Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
Hello Mike, Thursday, July 29, 2004, 10:02:41 AM, you wrote: > I can't seem to get IMAP emails to be deleted off the IMAP server. Is > there an account feature I have missed that lets me do this?? Try: Folder / Purge+Compress -- Dave Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Quick pre-install questions
> > So if I just write html in the normal msg editor, TB knows to send > > it as an html msg, not just show the html I wrote as text? That'd be > > ideal; I'd rather write my own html than use a "smart" WYSIWYG html > > editor. Am I understanding you right that that's what it does? > > Though TB! will display the message as HTML, other clients may not do > so unless the headers do say that the message is in HTML format. So TB doesn't do that when it detects html in my outgoing msgs... h... Allie (only, please), would you mind trying that, sending an html email built that way to me directly? Thanks. > > What do people use for calendaring outside of TB? > > I use 'Time and Chaos'. That's what Perry said too. I checked it out a while ago, as a contact mgr and scheduler for my wife (Eudora user). I should look again, thinking only about scheduling. Thanks much, Dave Merrill Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
