Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account
Luca via TBUDL: > Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL: > > > Hello Luca, > > > > Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote: > > > > > I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local > > > database. It > > > seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different > > > account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work. > > > > Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to > > operate manually > > it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP folder > > as Message.TBB > > and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same format. > > I tried something like that, but database files in my IMAP account have > extensions .EBB and .EBN. How should I handle them? I got it! E stands for Encrypted, right? My error was that I didn't rename them as Messages.EBB/EBN. It works. Messages with no body still have some header fields visible in the header list, good. Maybe Message/View source (F9) should work for no body messages too? It doesn't, at the moment. Is there a reason why Message/Copy to folder... doesn't work even when body is available? What I really miss since ever is drag and drop of whole folders between different accounts. Migrating a folder tree to a different account with TB has always been a pain in the ass. Thank you. -- Windows 11 Home The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) 9.5.1 64 bit Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account
Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL: > Hello Luca, > > Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote: > > > I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. > > It > > seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different > > account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work. > > Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to > operate manually > it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP folder as > Message.TBB > and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same format. I tried something like that, but database files in my IMAP account have extensions .EBB and .EBN. How should I handle them? Tnx. -- Windows 11 Home The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) 9.5.1 64 bit Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account
I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. It seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work. I can export/import messages via unix mailboxes actually, but is there a quicker way? I would like to use the database files directly with a different account, but I don't know if that's possible. Tnx. -- Windows 11 Home The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) 9.5.1 64 bit Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to restore a previous TB installation from a full copy of TB folder
Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL: > Hello Luca, > > Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 7:49:47 PM, you wrote: > > > Unfortunately I don't have a backup file made from inside TB, but I have a > > full copy of my previous The Bat! folder. After a Windows 10 restore, I need > > to reinstall TB. How can I fully recover my previous installation? > Once you point to a copy of your mail folder on the first run of The Bat! > you should be prompted with a list of the accounts found in the folder, so > just select the accounts you wish to work with and that's it :-) Thanx. It has been even simpler than that, I made a couple of attempts and I can't remember the exact steps. I run the setup selecting the previous folder and setting the same encription password, then it let me choose the main mail folder, after that all came back. It seems that I lost just a few configuration details, nothing important. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Professional Edition 9.2.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to restore a previous TB installation from a full copy of TB folder
Unfortunately I don't have a backup file made from inside TB, but I have a full copy of my previous The Bat! folder. After a Windows 10 restore, I need to reinstall TB. How can I fully recover my previous installation? Tnx -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Professional Edition 9.2.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Easy way to switch from Voyager to The Bat
Is there an easy way to switch from Voyager with OTFE to The Bat, mantaining all the message base, options and configuration? Tnx. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[3]: TLS Handshake and Certificate problems
Andrew Savchenko: > Hello Paul, > > Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:43:01 AM, you wrote: > > >>> I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could > >>> downgrade > >>> and keep on with that while v.9 grows mature. > > S>> I wholeheartedly agree! > S>> The customization, where even available, doesn't stick. It reverts > S>> back to the default after each restart! > > > The behavior is the same here. > > Latest v8 beta available in public: > https://mega.nz/file/JktHDQDT#zki2R-F6loABaYNkKeVa_H5nPtPt4Wg9QaMEUDH9KSk > http://uploaded.net/file/gvpoinfr It won't work! A new 8.x release should be issued to solve the problem. I cannot see any on the beta list. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS Handshake and Certificate problems
Maxim Masiutin via TBUDL: > Will release an updated MSI within a few hours. I just installed Voyager 9.1.10.1, problem with Gmail is gone, but... is there another way to cope with this recurrent problem? I wouldn't update right now, I think v.9 is not ready. All my personal buttons on the toolbar are gone and I can't see a way to get them back, and TB dies trying, already froze a couple of times in the 'customize' section. I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could downgrade and keep on with that while v.9 grows mature. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS Handshake and Certificate problems
Thomas Fernandez: > Hello Luca, > > On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 12:07:30 +0200 GMT (08-Apr-20, 17:07 +0700 GMT), > Luca via TBUDL wrote: > > > Thomas Fernandez: > > >> Hello Susanne, > >> > >> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:04:34 -0700 GMT (08-Apr-20, 4:04 +0700 GMT), > >> Susanne wrote: > >> > >> > starting today, I have intermittent problems sending emails in one > >> > account (so far). > >> > Error message in the log is TLS handshake failure. Invalid server > >> > certificate (The certificate cannot be used for this purpose). > >> > > >> > Is there a fix for that? > >> > > >> > Found this online: > >> > https://support.google.com/mail/thread/38537691?hl=en > >> > >> Did you try this solution (from the website you linked): > >> > >> change the smtp.gmail.com into > >> smtp.googlemail.com > > > It doesn't work. Same problem here with IMAP. > > if you fill > in the smtp server deetails in the Receiving Mail section, you won't > be able to receive any mails in any case. I am well aware of that. smtp.googlemail.com doesn't work here as SMTP server. > This is what happened over here: Suddenly I couldn't receive mails > from gmail any more on my laptop, changed to googlemail. It worked. Doesn't work either here. > I could still receive mails on my PC, using gmail. Then suddenly, I > could not. I was too lazy to change it, and now I can receive them > again. > > On my laptop, I suddenly could not receive mails from googlemail any > more. Being busy, I didn't do anything, and now I can receive them > again. > > So, as others have said, the problem is intermittent and certainly a > problem in Google's side, not TB. I do think it's The Bat, because I have the same account with the same configuration on my Android smartphone, using K-9 as a client, and there are no problem with it. -- Windows 10 pro 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.8.9.11 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS Handshake and Certificate problems
Thomas Fernandez: > Hello Susanne, > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:04:34 -0700 GMT (08-Apr-20, 4:04 +0700 GMT), > Susanne wrote: > > > starting today, I have intermittent problems sending emails in one > > account (so far). > > Error message in the log is TLS handshake failure. Invalid server > > certificate (The certificate cannot be used for this purpose). > > > > Is there a fix for that? > > > > Found this online: > > https://support.google.com/mail/thread/38537691?hl=en > > Did you try this solution (from the website you linked): > > change the smtp.gmail.com into > smtp.googlemail.com It doesn't work. Same problem here with IMAP. -- Windows 10 pro 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.8.9.11 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP - How to download all message bodies when subscribing to a new folder
Stuart Cuddy: > Hello Luca, > Monday, March 25, 2019, 5:08:26 PM, you wrote: > > > When I setup an IMAP folder TB downloads only headers, even if I checked > > "get > > entire message" wherever I could find it. Which option do I have to setup to > > have TB download all message bodies at once, without having to select each > > and > > every single message? > > Right click on account name and select "Manage IMAP Folders". > Then Right click on the folder you want to download messages from and Select > Download Mode/Own Settings and then set to download entire message. Tnx, it works. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP - How to download all message bodies when subscribing to a new folder
When I setup an IMAP folder TB downloads only headers, even if I checked "get entire message" wherever I could find it. Which option do I have to setup to have TB download all message bodies at once, without having to select each and every single message? Tnx. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing or converting common folders into imap folders
I need a quick way to convert a tree of common folders into folders under an IMAP account. Any idea? Drag and drop doesn't work that way. Many thanx, -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete an address from the drop down list appearing in the To: field when addressing a message
MFPA: > Hi > On Sunday 4 June 2017 at 4:02:08 PM, in > <mid:cf78jcd8g9a7ij8il3dcll77tofqdjj...@4ax.com>, Luca wrote:- > > > > My question now: is there any option to feed the > > suggestions of the > > autocomplete function in the To: field only with > > entries from the Addresses > > tab list? That would be really useful. > > Isn't that tab controlled by the settings in Options | Preferences | > Address History? Maybe the "Do-Not-Track List" or "Scan folders for > more addresses" buttons hide something that will help. It's the other way round, sort of. Problem is that autocompletion in the To: field doesn't make use of the Addresses tab list, and I can't understand where it picks addresses from and using what criteria. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete an address from the drop down list appearing in the To: field when addressing a message
Luca: > MFPA: > > On Thursday 1 June 2017 at 5:45:05 PM, in > > <mid:n4g0jcp2g10t56i0k9kvsfj0d22mfnf...@4ax.com>, Luca wrote:- > > > > > I'm having problem washing the list of suggestions > > > that appear under the To: > > > field when I start typing an address. > > > > Does it work for you to select the double down arrow at the end of the > > To: field to expose the list, use the down arrow to highlight an > > unwanted list entry, then hit the delete key? > > Unfortunately not. The unwanted address doesn't appear at all in the list when > I use the double down arrow, it shows up only when I start typing part of the > name of the adressee in the to: field. Ok, finally the unwanted address seems to be gone from the autocomplete suggestions, after these operations: - I deleted from the message base any message with that address in the header. - I completely emptied the Addresses tab (right click on the addresses list / purge + empty address history) - I deleted all the addresses in the drop down list of the To: field (double down arrow at the right of the To: field). - I completely deactivated all the options in Preferences / Address history - I did a purge+compact operation in the manteinance center I don't know which step actually did the trick. My question now: is there any option to feed the suggestions of the autocomplete function in the To: field only with entries from the Addresses tab list? That would be really useful. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete an address from the drop down list appearing in the To: field when addressing a message
MFPA: > On Thursday 1 June 2017 at 5:45:05 PM, in > <mid:n4g0jcp2g10t56i0k9kvsfj0d22mfnf...@4ax.com>, Luca wrote:- > > > I'm having problem washing the list of suggestions > > that appear under the To: > > field when I start typing an address. > > Does it work for you to select the double down arrow at the end of the > To: field to expose the list, use the down arrow to highlight an > unwanted list entry, then hit the delete key? Unfortunately not. The unwanted address doesn't appear at all in the list when I use the double down arrow, it shows up only when I start typing part of the name of the adressee in the to: field. I can't understand where it has been memorized. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to delete an address from the drop down list appearing in the To: field when addressing a message
I'm having problem washing the list of suggestions that appear under the To: field when I start typing an address. I tried to follow the instructions in https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/70/#6640 but deleting addresses form the Adresses tab doesn't help. Unwanted addresses keep on showing up in the To: field suggestions even if they are not in the address history, nor in the address book. Any help? Thanx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
MFPA:
Hi
On Sunday 7 June 2015 at 8:51:41 PM, in
mid:gt79naplejsrp1523d5sh3p7qkshfd6...@4ax.com, Luca wrote:
I know, and I can tell you: there is no browse button
to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only
pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in
the list of application to choose from.
Playing with my search engine for a while got me:-
https://superuser.com/questions/536849/how-to-associate-the-mailto-protocol-with-a-custom-exe.
The following saved as a .REG file, edited to specify my custom
EXE and imported into the registry works for me in Windows 7:
It works! That's great, thank you. I've been searching for a long time for a
trick like that.
For .eml files, problem is not to associate the
extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a
new message editor window with the file as an
attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a
message, showing its content.
So Windows is picking the right application but the wrong action. Is
there no way to edit the action?
With the registry, I think so. But there are a lot of keys related to .eml
extension, these are just some of them:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\OpenWithList]
MRUList=ab
b=wlmail.exe
a=voyager.exe
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\OpenWithProgids]
Microsoft Internet Mail Message WLMail=hex(0):
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\UserChoice]
Progid=Applications\\voyager.exe
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml]
Content Type=message/rfc822
CachedFilterIID={0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}
PersistentHandler={0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}
@=Microsoft Internet Mail Message WLMail
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\PersistentHandler]
@={0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\shellex]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\shellex\{8895b1c6-b41f-4c1c-a562-0d564250836f}]
@={b9815375-5d7f-4ce2-9245-c9d4da436930}
If I choose Open with Windows Live Mail, WLM opens and shows the .eml file
like it's supposed to do, while Open with Voyager results in a new message
in Voyager with the .eml file as an attachment.
And I would have thought you wanted to also associate .msg files,
although these seem to be less common than a few years ago. I still
encounter them occasionally.
Right, same thing as .eml. I didn't think about .msg because it's been a while
since I saw the last one, AFAIR.
--
Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Feli Wilcke: Hello Luca, On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 +0200GMT Luca wrote: That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? L Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no browse button to select a L program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application to L choose from. This is the way for XP, in W7 you would use systems preferences | program standards (or similar). There are some options you could try I know, and I can tell you: there is no browse button to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in the list of application to choose from. L So, remaining problems: L - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide L - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager see above For .eml files, problem is not to associate the extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a new message editor window with the file as an attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a message, showing its content. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Rick: The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. The problem comes because voyager is portable and doesn't make registry entries The keys you could BACKUP and then play with are HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit and / or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 32-bit I think I tried that too, once, but I did't know what to insert in those keys. Maybe I should try and install The Bat, then substitute the path to TB executable with the path to Voyager? I'm a little reluctant to do that. Would you be so kind to export that registry key on your machine in a .reg file then paste here the content? Maybe I could try to adapt it. Anyway, I think a little external application would come handy for Voyager users, to build the right associations in the registry, if Ritlabs would like do it. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
MFPA: On Saturday 6 June 2015 at 3:17:33 PM, in mid:tkv5nad8vu7mnkrtkc0qimqc6v5ko8r...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. I would have thought not touching the host computer's settings was one of the points of a portable app. Yes, the main reason why I use portable apps is to be able to use my applications when traveling, when I can't carry my laptop with me, but when I come back home I'd like not to have limitations, particularly if I place the same application in the same place everytime, either a USB unit or a folder. Why not? It would be perfectly possible to install Voyager with proper registry settings, on demand or running some simple external configuration utility to write the right settings in the registry. That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no browse button to select a program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application to choose from. And in Firefox via Tools | Options | Applications? Wait, wait... Thank you very much, one problem solved! How did I miss that? So, remaining problems: - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager Thanks for any hint. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Trash: I have started to try Voyager. There is no documentation comparing it to the full version (apart from saying it includes all the features) I have two basic questions: a) Is there any disadvantage at all of using Voyager as my main software, i.e. as the main software on my desktop as well as USB, and discarding the installed version altogether -- what will I lose?? The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. Except for that, I think it's all the same. The installed version betas usually come out more frequently than Voyager updates but I can live with that. b) Does the E-mail data *have* to be encrypted on Voyager. I am mainly interested in portability, and take care of security in other ways. Encryption in Voyager would (possibly) make me more susceptible to data loss. I seem to remember that yes, the Voyager database must be encrypted. I'm not 100% sure, though. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting text after signature delimiter
Feli Wilcke: Hello Luca, On Wed, 13 May 2015 16:08:06 +0200GMT Luca wrote: L With TB's text editor, it seems there is no way to paste quoted text including L a signature delimiter into a reply or a new message. Either F4 or alt+ins L paste all the text before the delimiter, while the part after the delimiter L doesn't get pasted. That's the meaning of the signature delimiter, to cut off all behind. Of course, but when I delibrately select a text portion including a signature delimiter, then use the reply quoting selected text function, I expect that the selected text gets quoted, all of it. That's exactly the point of using a quote selected function. If I wouldn't paste as quotes the text after the signature, I didn't select it. L Is there a way to get a text portion including a signature delimiter quoted L into a reply? I don't see a reason to do that but you can always copypaste with Crtl-C Ctrl-V No, I need two separate copy and past as quotes operations, before and after the signature delimiter which has to be added manually if you want it back. I think F4 should simply deliver what it promises. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quoting text after signature delimiter
With TB's text editor, it seems there is no way to paste quoted text including a signature delimiter into a reply or a new message. Either F4 or alt+ins paste all the text before the delimiter, while the part after the delimiter doesn't get pasted. Is there a way to get a text portion including a signature delimiter quoted into a reply? Thanx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting text after signature delimiter
Roger Phillips: Hello Luca, Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 4:08:06 PM, among other things, you wrote: Is there a way to get a text portion including a signature delimiter quoted into a reply? Yes, I copied and pasted the bottom part of your message into an otherwise empty message window obtained by pressing F4 with nothing highlighted in your message. Ok, I understand these steps: 1) you hit F4, opening a text editor window for the reply 2) go back to the message, then select and copy the lines from the signature delimiter included, to the bottom 3) in the message editor, past the copied text using ctrl+v, obtaining the text without quotation marks Now, if in 3) you use alt+ins instead of ctrl+v, to paste text as quotes, you get nothing. No text is pasted at all. That's the problem, can you confirm? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transforming IMAP folders into common folders
Roelof Otten: Hallo TBUDL, Op donderdag 18 december 2014, 12:38:36, schreef Luca: My problem is: how do I transform an IMAP folder into a common folder, when I don't have access to the imap server anymore? ... There might be a workaround: the IMAP cache. Create a new common folder. Don't store any messages there. Switch to the imap folder you want to 'restore' From the menu: Folder - Properties Here you'll find the full path to the IMAP cache of that folder something like some path\accountname\IMAP\SDF456.TBB Write that down. Shut down TB Copy the TBB file to the directory matching with your recently created common folder and rename it to MESSAGES.TBB. I get back here after some time. Thank you for this, it's working. Just one question: what's the difference between .TBB/.TBN files and .EBB/.EBN ones? I find both kinds in the IMAP folders to be restored, so I need to rename TBB/TBN as EBB/EBN when I copy them in the destination folder. Everything seems to work, but I wonder what's the difference. Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transforming IMAP folders into common folders
Hello, My problem is: how do I transform an IMAP folder into a common folder, when I don't have access to the imap server anymore? It seems I cannot even copy a single message from an IMAP folder to a different one, if I'm not connected to the IMAP server. Thanx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template problem: macros to identify sender name and address
Luca: MFPA: Can you alter the order of the fields exported by your Access Query so that the string TB! stores in the email address AB field is unique for each AB record, and the actual email address gets stored in a different AB field? Then %ABtoPPP would select the correct AB entry each time, so that you get the correct Username and Password for the course in the email body. And you would need to add a macro to substitute in the email address afterwards. For example, if you stored the email address in the State field, it might be something like:- %To = %ToName %ABToState Disclaimer: I have not tested this. That looks brilliant and promising a trick. I'll test it as soon as I can then report here. Seems not to work ): the variable %TO only adds a recipient to the To: field, doesn't substitute the default value that's inevitably formed by the two fields Name email, and email uniquely identifies the AB entry to pick values from. That seems to me at a first attempt. But I'm going to try harder later. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template problem: macros to identify sender name and address
MFPA: One simple suggestion would be just the one AB entry for each student, and list the username and password for all courses in the Memo field. An example AB entry might be:- Name: John Doe Email: john@domain.com Memo: Course: Course0 Username:Username0 Password:Password0 Course: Course1 Username:Username1 Password:Password1 Your quick template would now be:- %TONAME %ABtoMemo So the student would receive just one email that listed the usernames and passwords for all their courses. Yes, I was hoping to avoid that solution because I can't manage it automatically. I use Access to export a tab delimited file from the school database and feed it into The Bat address book, and I would need to manually merge any double entry by editing the memo field and deleting the double. Maybe I could build a new query to export a different type of address list, with memo fields already filled that way, but I guess it would need a lot of work (-: Anyway, thanx a lot for your input. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template problem: macros to identify sender name and address
MFPA: Hi On Monday 29 September 2014 at 8:02:39 AM, in mid:5510139025.20140929030...@grunwalds.com, Rick wrote: Maybe I could build a new query to export a different type of address list, with memo fields already filled that way, but I guess it would need a lot of work (-: I am coming in late on this one but how about address book groups for the different courses? I wondered about that, but am not sure %ABtoPPP would search only in the AB group selected for the mass mailing. Unfortunately not. Even if I select a single message for a new message using template action, the %ABtoPPP will select the first occurrence of PPP for the corresponding email address, in the whole set of address books. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template problem: macros to identify sender name and address
MFPA: Can you alter the order of the fields exported by your Access Query so that the string TB! stores in the email address AB field is unique for each AB record, and the actual email address gets stored in a different AB field? Then %ABtoPPP would select the correct AB entry each time, so that you get the correct Username and Password for the course in the email body. And you would need to add a macro to substitute in the email address afterwards. For example, if you stored the email address in the State field, it might be something like:- %To = %ToName %ABToState Disclaimer: I have not tested this. That looks brilliant and promising a trick. I'll test it as soon as I can then report here. Thanx! -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Template problem: macros to identify sender name and address
Hi all, Hope there is someone willing to help me with this macro problem. In short: I guess I need a value for nnn in the ABnnnPPP macro to pick the whole To: header field of the message. The to value seems to pick only the email address, without the nick part. Long explanation: I use the following quick template with the mass mailing function, to send personal credentials to a bunch of students: %TONAME User name: %ABtoZip Password: %ABtoCountry I previously inserted user name and password in the Zip and Country fields for each student entry in my address book. Now, problem is that the same student can have more than a single entry in the address book, all with the same email address but different credentials, one for each course the student is enrolled in. I identify the different entries for different courses adding the course name in the address book name field, this way: Name: John Doe - course 1 Email: john@domain.com Zip: username1 Country: password1 Name: John Doe - course 2 Email: john@domain.com Zip: username2 Country: password2 Unfortunately, the to part in the macros %ABtoZip and %ABtoCountry, selects only the email address. So, when I try new mass mailing using template, two emails will be created correctly, one for each address book entry, but both picking only the first of the two couples Zip and Country. This will produce two messages, this way: Message 1: To: John Doe - course 1 john@domain.com Body: User name: username1 Password: password1 Message 2: To: John Doe - course 2 john@domain.com Body: User name: username1 Password: password1 That is evidently wrong. The %ABtoZip macro should be capable to select the correct address book entry according to the whole To: field of each message, not only the email address. Any help? Different solutions for the problem? I would be really grateful. Tia. This is The Bat help definition for the macro: ABnnnPPP Inserts a field from the address book. nnn determines the address used, PPP is the address book field to be used. Values for nnn: TOAddress Book entry for the TO header (current message) FROMAddress Book entry for the FROM header (current message) REPLYAddress Book entry for the REPLY-TO header (current message) OTOAddress Book entry for the TO header (original message) OFROMAddress Book entry for the FROM header (original message) OREPLYAddress Book entry for the REPLY-TO header (original message) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager: desperately need a hack to associate mailto: URLs to Voyager.
I desperately need a registry hack, or any sort of solution, to have my Windows 7 run Voyager, not Outlook, when I click on mailto: URLs. Voyager resides on the F: partition of my internal hard disk. Thank you thank you thank you. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: desperately need a hack to associate mailto: URLs to Voyager.
Bill McQuillan: On Wed, 2014-09-17, Luca wrote: I desperately need a registry hack, or any sort of solution, to have my Windows 7 run Voyager, not Outlook, when I click on mailto: URLs. I haven't thoroughly tested it, but in my version of The Bat! Thank you, but it's Voyager, not The Bat. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP: get bodies for all message headers, how?
Stuart Cuddy: Tuesday, July 1, 2014, 9:34:46 AM, you wrote: Is there any get all bodies command, somewhere? Workarounds? Right click the account name and select Manage IMAP folders. Then Right click on the folder you want all the messages for and then select download mode and set your preferences. Thank you. Appearently, I misinterpreted the Account properties/IMAP fine tune options. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP: get bodies for all message headers, how?
Thomas Fernandez: The whole idea of IMAP is that you leave the messages on the server and don't keep them all on your computer. If you want all bodies, I believe POP is better for you. Why do you want all bodies on your server, may I ask? For local filtering. I use IMAP instead of pop for syncronization across two computers. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP: get bodies for all message headers, how?
I have many IMAP folders with lots of messages without bodies, just headers. I'd like to get all bodies, but I can't find other way except for selecting every single message one by one. Is there any get all bodies command, somewhere? Workarounds? Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager: pryvacy broken in log files?
MFPA: Hi On Tuesday 18 February 2014 at 4:39:51 PM, in mid:5p27g9tj3a95bpsklmrqapmjbmofhqs...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: IMAP_1.log SMTP.log These ones contain email text, not encrypted, and I don't know how to avoid that. In TB! you go to the properties of an account, then on the tree on the left, under Transport, is an entry called Protocol Logging. On that pane are two tick-boxes and the paths to two files. Protocol Logging is only needed to investigate problems with sending or receiving mail. That's it, thank you. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager: pryvacy broken in log files?
Hello, I found two files in the folders of one of may IMAP accounts in Voyager: IMAP_1.log SMTP.log These ones contain email text, not encrypted, and I don't know how to avoid that. My questions: - Is there any way to encrypt these log files too? - Or how do I prevent their creation? - Are there any other files in Voyager where data encryption is not effective? Thanks -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Rick: L It's not that simple, of course, Voyager does not register itself as a default L program. L I guess we need some tool, or a registry configuration file. Go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations The text on win 8 read Associate a file type or protocol ... Find the protocol you want and Change program It will give you a list, more options will give you a bigger list and at the bottom of that is an option to search for a program on this computer Already tried that. There is no Voyager in the list of programs I get with change program. and ther is no more options option for protocols, on Win7, it's available only for file extensions, so I can't search for a program to be associated to mailto URLs. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Rick: Already tried that. There is no Voyager in the list of programs I get with change program. and ther is no more options option for protocols, on Win7, it's available only for file extensions, so I can't search for a program to be associated to mailto URLs. What protocol are you trying to change to Voyager? mailto -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Hello, How can I set Voyager as default mail client on my Windows 7 system? I particularly need to open mailto: URLs with Voyager. Thanx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default mail client for mailto: protocol
Jack S. LaRosa: Hello Luca, On Sunday, October 20, 2013 you wrote: L How can I set Voyager as default mail client on my Windows 7 system? I L particularly need to open mailto: URLs with Voyager. START + DEFAULT PROGRAMS or START + CONTROL PANEL + DEFAULT PROGRAMS. It's not that simple, of course, Voyager does not register itself as a default program. I guess we need some tool, or a registry configuration file. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Info about Voyager
I've been using Voyager for the last few months, after many years with the non portable version of TB. I find a certain lack of information about Voyager, and I have a lot of questions and doubts about its functions. Is there any forum, newsgroup, mailing list, faq repository, specifically dedicated to Voyager? I couldn't find any. If it's ok to ask here, e.g., here are some questions of mine: - How do I prevent Voyager to change the name and icon of the logic unit where I install it, and how can I revert to my favourite name and Icon? - Is it possible to make it remember more than one single search field in the message finder simple mode? - When importing my message base back from Voyager to standard TB, can I revert to a non OTFE message base? Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting address history
MAU: Hello Tony, How can I delete addresses offered on the address drop down when addressing a new email? According to TBUDL archove, I should simply select the address and hit the Delete key. This doesn't work for me. Once you get the drop-down, use the down arrow key to 'enter' the list and then use the up or down arrow keys to scroll through it. When you get to the address you want to delete, just hit Delete. This has always worked here. That didn't work for me. The only effective solution was editing the ACCOUNT.HIS file. See the thread starting from this message: From: Luca mbox543...@linuxfan.it Subject: Is there any way to clear the address history? Wrong addresses keep coming out... Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:45:35 +0100 Message-ID: lamfh8dq754chvk3sd348slmgg7fooq...@4ax.com -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any way to clear the address history? Wrong addresses keep coming out...
MAU: Hello Luca, I've already done that, the addresses tab is empty, after a add a record to the don't track list operation. No way to get rid of these addresses. Maybe, if I discover which file does TB store them in... When you say address history, are you referring to the addresses that appear in the drop down list of the To (or Cc or BBC) field of the Editor. Yes. If so, open your Editor and place cursor in To field. Then click on the double down arrow on the right side of the field, which should open the drop down list. Then, and this is important, hit the down arrow on your keyboard which will move focus to the first item of the list. Then, either start hitting Delete on your keyboard, which will delete one entry at a time, or or use the down/up keys to navigate to the entries you want to delete. That doesn't work either. The address seem to disappear when I hit del, and if I reopen the drop down list it seems to be gone. But if I type some letters of the address I just deleted, in the To field, it pops up again (but happy ending later, read ahead) If you are not referring to the above history, check your Options-Preferences-Address History and, at the bottom, select Limit history by 0 days and Purge exceeding entries from history on exit. Done that too, anyway. No effect. That's all I can suggest. Not really. If you want to be more 'expeditious', there is an ACCOUNT.HIS file per account in your hard disk. Exit TB, locate the file and delete it (or, to be safe, rename it) and open TB again. On next exit it will create an empty .HIS file. It's there! Thank you! I edited the file with an hex editor and I vaporized the goddam zombie. It was gone, I doublechecked, then I got rid of the whole file, for best security. But beware, the ACCOUNT.HIS file includes several histories. That I know of (just found out by looking at mine): Folder history, Messagefinder (MSGFINDERANYPART, MSGFINDERHEASDER, MSGFINDERRECIPIENT, MSGFINDERSENDER, MSGFINDERSUBJECT, MSGFINDERTEXT), SEARCHTEXT and TO History (if I haven't missed any). So, if you delete the file, your will loose ALL histories. Fair trade. Nobody deserves to be haunted for a lifetime by one single typo, when you had the misfortune to misspell an address, and now you risk to send mail to the same wrong address everytime you write to the same person. If I couln't find a solution I was about to reinstall TB from scratch. Thank you, really. A lot. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is there any way to clear the address history? Wrong addresses keep coming out...
Wrong addresses keep coming out in my address history and there seem to be no way to get rid of them. No answer found in TB faqs, nor via Google, my addresses tab is empty, there is no weird address in my address book, so where the hell does TB store these persistent ghosts? Thanks. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any way to clear the address history? Wrong addresses keep coming out...
Rick: L my addresses tab is empty, there L is no weird address in my address book, so where the hell does TB store these L persistent ghosts? In the lower left there are at least 3 tabs one of which is addresses. There is an option there to add it to the do not track list and / or delete it I've already done that, the addresses tab is empty, after a add a record to the don't track list operation. No way to get rid of these addresses. Maybe, if I discover which file does TB store them in... -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoted text not wrapped in quick reply
Luca: If I select some text in the original message, then I do a quick reply, quoted text is inserted in the quick reply, but it doesn't get wrapped. Am I missing something? Any hint? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quoted text in quick reply doesn't wrap
If I select some text in the original message, then I do a quick reply, quoted text is inserted in the quick reply, but it doesn't get wrapped. Am I missing something? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mark message as read timeout for common folders
How do I set Mark message as read when it's being read for ..., for common folders? I can't find any options section in the properties menu. Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mark message as read timeout for common folders
MAU: Hello Luca, How do I set Mark message as read when it's being read for ..., for common folders? I can't find any options section in the properties menu. Select any Common folder, then from top menu Account/Properties Thanx! Nice trick, though: alt+enter menu and top menu Account/Properties are the same for accounts, but they are different for common folders. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP folders - TB keeps on losing messages attributes, marks, flags and colour groups
TB keeps on losing messages attributes, marks, flags and colour groups for my IMAP account. I'm on 5.2 now, but I've been seeing this happening for all the last year. Every now and then, all of a sudden, any unread, parked, coloured, flagged message turns read, unparked, no colour, no flag. Very nasty. No particular problem or action seems to be related to this behaviour. Any idea? Is it possible that it's a server related problem? Thanx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
Robin Anson: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 at 21:08:24 +0200,Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... Where is this option to be found? Account/properties. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message finder: how to change default search fields
MFPA: On Thursday 26 July 2012 at 2:38:43 PM, in mid:03i218pgo77oj4m9bc06ee1j97l93h6...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: Is there a way to modify default search fields in message finder? In my TB! version there are no defaults, it just remembers which fields you searched last time. Mine doesn't, at least not always. It seems to remember a fifth condition, but it keeps on reverting to the usual four, every now and then. It never remembers a sixth condition between different sessions. I'd like to add one or two more conditions, or at least change the default search fields. Header or Any part are my most wanted fields. Adding extras is easy: just click new condition and an extra line appears. Some of the extra lines then stay there for future use, the rest disappear the next time you use the function. The only way I found of reducing it back to two lines was to edit the registry. I can't figure out which value is it to tweak to make more conditions sticky. I guess it's HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Finder but I have no clue beyond that. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
MFPA: On Sunday 29 July 2012 at 9:04:53 AM, in mid:7br918hr1eegouge1a8hkpv4mbd7gha...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message finder: how to change default search fields
Is there a way to modify default search fields in message finder? I'd like to add one or two more conditions, or at least change the default search fields. Header or Any part are my most wanted fields. Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. Is there a way to make an SMTP server available to all accounts at once? Tnx. (Sorry for my other message reposted... Gmane authorization problems.) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message finder: how to change default search fields
Is there a way to modify default search fields in message finder? I'd like to add one or two more conditions, or at least change the default search fields. Header or Any part are my most wanted fields. Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: About Voyager
Thomas Fernandez: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:09:43 +0100 GMT (21/Nov/11, 14:09 PM +0700 GMT), Luca wrote: L I use TB Home, and I'm trying to understand exactly what Voyager is. Browsing L the net, Ritlabs faqs, etc, doesn't help me much (specific faqs? Where?). In L particular: You have found the most important FAQ, this list. Thanx for your answers. Voyager only uses OTFE (on-the-fly encryption), you do not have the choice of whether you want encryption or not. I have put in a wish for the choice... ;-) It's a bit scary for me, everything encrypted... what if something got scrambled up? I like more when I can still read my messages with notepad. All the rest sounds nice. L - is there a trial version? I don't actually know. The PC versions of TB! are 30-day-try-before-you-pay, but Voyager requires the Pro licence key before installing... I didn't try to try, give it a try and let us know! I tried, I also downloaded an old The Bat! Voyager 4.2.36.4 that I'm told it's shareware: http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/Internet/E-mail/Windows-Portable-Applications-The-Bat-Voyager.shtml but here it won't run at all, without a proper serial number. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
About Voyager
Hello everybody, I use TB Home, and I'm trying to understand exactly what Voyager is. Browsing the net, Ritlabs faqs, etc, doesn't help me much (specific faqs? Where?). In particular: - with Voyager, do I need just a TB Pro /licence/ or must TB Pro be installed first on my computer to put Voyager at work? - can all my TB Home configuration and database (email, address book, filters, etc) be imported into Voyager once and for all? - will I find all TB Home features in Voyager as well, or is it a different email client? - can I use Voyager without encription, just like Thunderbird Portable, for example? - is there a trial version? Thank you, -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Roger Phillips: Monday, July 27, 2009, 7:05:25 PM, among other things, you wrote: L Unfortunately, my version of the Sniper (3.2.1.1 free) hangs when I try to L access the white list configuration. ... Did you start with 3.2.1.1 or did you upgrade from an earlier version? I upgraded, but thanx: I finally got to grab the lost dialog using alt+spacebar,move, it was way way out of the screen. So, I'm going to test the white list feature, finally. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Code 2: AntispamSniper Agreed. After about 30,000 e-mail messages including 1,400 spam messages, my stats are showing 98.97% accuracy and only 0.08% false positives. I use Antispamsniper, the free version. I guess there is no way to make it work after the normal TB filters, is it? I get a large number of false positives, and I can't stop it from putting some particular messages in my junk folder (e.g., the monthly tbul subscription reminder). It simply won't understand. I'd be satisfied if I could just make my filters work to save my good messages before the sniper shot'em down. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Robin Anson: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 at 15:22:48 +0100, Privateofcourse wrote: Hello TBUDL, I've done a bit of leg work, but it seems to me that the majority of so-called 'SPAM blocker/stopper' solutions don't and can't really do anything other than allow you to manage SPAM after-the-fact. That is, SPAM isn't actually blocked or stopped at all, but is managed after it has been received. I wouldn't use something that stopped or blocked SPAM for me. I don't trust anyone else to make the decision about whether something is SPAM because I have seen a small number, but that is too many, of emails incorrectly classified as SPAM. I support providers with good RBL filtering, that's the real solution. Content filtering is only useful to gather spam messages into a single folder, once you've downloaded them. I wouldn't use any mailbox with content filtering if it's the provider to manage it. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Roger Phillips: Monday, July 27, 2009, 1:57:44 PM, among other things, you wrote: L I get a large number of false L positives, and I can't stop it from putting some particular messages in my L junk folder (e.g., the monthly tbul subscription reminder). It simply won't L understand. Have you added TBUDL to the 'White list'? Unfortunately, my version of the Sniper (3.2.1.1 free) hangs when I try to access the white list configuration. It seems like when there's some dialog open, behind other windows or offscreen, that you can't access. I can't even get to it with alt+spacebar, I have to kill TB and restart. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Microed editor not respecting the return
AC: The reason I have settled on the options above is because of previous frustrations with Microed that I've written here about before. The main one being my problem with being able to automatically wordwrap lines after going back and editing lines in the middle of a message. Does anyone else run into these frustrations with microEd? Sure. Me, I've been waiting for years. Not only the MicroEd doesn't get any improvement because of it's nature, but neither the windows-like editor gets any of the necessary features you can find in MicroEd, like reformat quoting. The Bat has three editors and at least two of them are crippled (can't talk about the html one, since I don't use it). TB's programmers, supported by old fans, simply won't understand it. After all these years, I would have expected it to be a little more normal and easy to use. Me too. Just look at 40tude Dialog's Editor. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ghost signature (visible only when selected)
My signature is disappearing. When I write a message, I can see it only if it's selected. I use the plain text editor and viewer. How can I make my signature appear always? Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgraded text editor in TB4: new paragraph handling or is it just the same?
|Upgraded Text Editor |The MicroEd text editor is improved. Now it supports Unicode and all |the available system fonts. You have the possibility to use different |fonts for different elements of the message and benefit of the system-wide |drag-and-drop option. We also added the Redo function and spell checking |for multiple languages at once. Text search is equipped with new options. |Message signature is highlighted. Hope never dies: now, in this version 4, can TB automatically handle paragraphs separated by only one carriage return, or do we need to hit return twice as always? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd vs Plain text
Mica Mijatovic: @ @ at 21:17:31 +, when Paul Meathrel wrote: OK, does this suit you better. I've temporarily switched to MicroEd to see how things go for a few days. I've no doubt that you'll notice if I switch back. How does it look at your end now I've switched? Beautiful. A holiday for eyes. I agree. An old question of mine, never answered clearly: is it true that it's theoretically impossible to program an editor that - to a user's *eyes and fingers* - has all the MicroEd features plus the ability to consider a *single* carriage return as a paragraph separator? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing addresses in the From column
Roelof Otten: Hallo Thomas, L how can I make email addresses show in the From column, RO You cannot do that. TF But it would be a good idea to have that option, wouldn't it? As Luca is [+not] the first I've heard asking for it, it might be a welcome option, Actually, I'm a bit surprised that's theres no way to show senders' email addresses in message list pane. This looks to me like a pretty normal feature, and I use to think that even miracles are possible with TB :-) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing addresses in the From column
This must be real simple, kind of newbie question, but I've not been able to find a way: how can I make email addresses show in the From column, in the message list pane? I only see names of authors, I'd like to view their addresses too, but I can't find an option to do that. Thanx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Thomas Fernandez: Luca wrote: L We're talking of a typing L syndrome. TB's MicroEd (any mode) requires a heavy modification of deeply L rooted and continuously practised typing habits. I could agree with you if L TB's way were common among all the other programs, or if I could use TB as my L sole and only editor, but it isn't. Well, I for one like the way MicroEd behaves. However, I understand that you want an editor that behaves like Word, is that correct? Yes. In my specific case: Agent and Dialog or, if we're talking about word processing, Open Office, as well as any editor of common use, excluding a programmer's one, like MicroEd seems more to be. Dialog in particular seems pretty close to perfection, for email and news messages editing: it's capable to perform all the email related tasks that MicroEd particularly does as well, without the alt+l/double return syndrome. However, there was a wish once that one should be able to use any external editor of choice, and some would want to use ViM. I don't know what became of that wish. Ah yes, the external editor solution, but that way you loose any interaction between the editor and the mail client. And what about specific email related functions, e.g. quotes handling? Definetly not a solution, IMO. Seems to me more like a programmer's virtuosity, only an end to itself. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler stops working
MFPA: Luca wrote: For a series of reasons I'd prefer not to involve my POP server for the same account, my set of filters would get too complicated. I could set a bogus pop server to do the same operation without actually downloading email with the same account, Why use a bogus one that causes an error rather than a real one that does not receive any mail? Well, it's a pretty unusual situation: I co-moderate a Yahoogroups mailing list and I'd like to use TB to automate some approve/reject operation. I'm the one to set the whole mechanism - moderation account properties in TB, filters, etc - both for me and the other moderator. My colleague would run TB from behind a firewall which prevents him to use any pop/smtp server except his own, and he is allowed to use only one mailbox for all his email. So, I formerly wrote my pop server only as a semplification here. Actually, it's my collegue's one that I'd rather not involve for mail checking in his moderation account, the one used to send back control messages to Yahoogroups. Incoming messages of any kind are processed by his normal account, where moderation filters for the mailing list operate. Then, generated control messages are queued in the Outbox of the moderation account, waiting for TB's scheduler to do its job and send them. If it worked. Of course I could redesign the whole machine to adapt it to this no-scheduler situation for him, but it would be uneasy, and inelegant. And sad. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 25-Dez-2005 at 18:33 you (Luca) wrote: Since you insist No, I do not insist. I tried to help by providing a workaround for the problem you have. If I say I want to be able to hit return once and you say then hit it twice, that's not what I'd call a workaround. Obviously, it's not only a one-key difference. We're talking of a typing syndrome. TB's MicroEd (any mode) requires a heavy modification of deeply rooted and continuously practised typing habits. I could agree with you if TB's way were common among all the other programs, or if I could use TB as my sole and only editor, but it isn't. I can't stop using other programs and editors, and I can't be hunted for the rest of my life by the alt-l/double return syndrome at every line I write, both here and there, in a way and its opposit. I think we have a little bit of a misunderstanding here. I don't *want* anything. ... All I'm saying is that *if* the WinEd continues to behave like it does (currently), format-flowed should be implemented correctly. So, you do want something, at least something to be done just in case. And that something, the way you're proposing it, would prevent other's people needings to be fulfilled, since TB is very unlinkely going to get a fourth editor. Usually, paragraphs are separated with one return and, possibly, an indent. I assume we're still talking about email :-) And I assume I'm talking with people who doesn't write only email and only with TB. The keyword here is typing habits, as I wrote above. See, you're minimizing the most repelling obstacle that people find on their way starting to use TB coming from other programs. It's not a matter of getting used to a new program. It comes to a TB or not TB, that's the question. Only a correct implementation of format-flowed (as in any word processor) I don't want format flowed because in email - unlike in any word processor format - you can't specify line lenght as a paragraph attribute. We'll ever need hard returns at the end of each line to obtain wysiwyg in email. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: IMHO, the settings for the Windows editor should be separated from Microed. If one chooses to hard-wrap messages at column 72 or whatever, TB should do so before sending to supply the same WYSIWYG principle of Microed. But if one chooses to use the flowed format (aka the way the Windows editor is working now), it should a) add the flowed headers to the outgoing message and b) not cause the false impression of wrapping by formatting the text while typing (but using the fill window width just as well). No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. A proper solution, IMO, would be like the one proposed by Bill McQuillan in the bug report page that you indicated. If you don't want to call such an editor a wysiwyg one anymore, so be it. For me, it is: what I /see/ is exactly what I'll get when I send the message. Is what I /code/ that's different, and only while I'm typing, but who cares? TB already has another what-you-/code/-is-what-you-get editor, so let's people out here get at least one Agent-like editor, among the three (!) that TB already has. This thing is a must for a mail client, a primary and elemetary feature. There are two reasons why I didn't give up long time ago with TB: (1) Ritlabs introduced the Windows-like editor and I still hope they'll make it work the way I hope, (2) I desperately need templates, macros and automations. If I didn't need (2) I would have uninstalled The Bat and forgotten Ritlabs the split moment I realized the way TB forces me to type. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 25-Dez-2005 at 11:46 you (Luca) wrote: No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. *shrug* Then use MicroEd and turn on auto-formatting. Oh, please ... MicroEd can't do as above (and you know it :-) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 25-Dez-2005 at 11:53 you (Luca) wrote: No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. You can turn auto-formatting in MicroEd on off easily with CTRL+SHIFT+F and have almost what you need. It won't spare you from hitting return twice when you want to create a real paragraph, however. Since you insist, let's switch position, for a moment. You said: |If one chooses to hard-wrap messages at column 72 or whatever, TB should do |so before sending to supply the same WYSIWYG principle of Microed. | |But if one chooses to use the flowed format (aka the way the Windows |editor is working now), it should a) add the flowed headers to the |outgoing message and b) not cause the false impression of wrapping by |formatting the text while typing (but using the fill window width just as |well). So you want the Windows-like editor to be able (1) to send format-flowed messages or (2) to send hard-wrapped lines, other possible modes being excluded. Well, why don't you leave the Windows-like editor alone for other people's needings and do what you like using MicroEd? You can easily obtain (1) simply by setting text wrapping at a very high value (maximum is 32 thousand characters, it should be enough) and inserting format-flowed headers. See? There is no need to cripple down the Winlike editor to correctly obtain format-flowed. Oh, yes, reading your one-line paragraphs in your editor window would require a little effort with your scroll bar, but ... well, there's always a certain point where automatisms fail, don't you agree? Because *paragraphs* are separated with an empty line usually. :-) Usually, paragraphs are separated with one return and, possibly, an indent. You can *choose* to insert empty lines in email to improve readability, but you should never be forced to use them to make a not-smart-enough editor capable to perform autoformatting tasks. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 23-Dez-2005 at 12:53 you (Luca) wrote: But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines as long as the whole paragraph. I'm not sure but from my POV it is correct that there are no hard linebreaks in these messages. The Windows-like editor could come in handy when users don't need the advanced features of MicroEd, so they can't see any reason why they should suffer the pains of alt+(hel)l. But if it's correct to use MicroEd to write and send plain text messages /with/ line wrappings, I can't see why it's correct to send them /without/ line wrappings, only because I use another editor. They're just plain text messages in both cases, if there's a reason to wrap lines at 72, it stands even when I change editor. However, TB doesn't add the correct Content-Type header for this type of messages (from which the recipients MUA can determine that it should wrap the lines accordingly). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=whatever; format=flowed; delsp=yes This is interesting as a workaround. Adding these ones as custom fields in TB should solve the problem, at least with certain recipients, right? But how many mail readers can correctly handle them? Here's the bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5016 Thanx, I was looking up in the wrong category (editor instead of mail management). By the way ... Merry Christmas to all, here :-) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
I can't understand how the Windows-like editor works, as far as line wrapping is concerned. In my viewer/editor|editor preferences dialog box, it says: General (common for all editors) Wrap text at 72 characters But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines as long as the whole paragraph. Help file doesn't help. Can't find faqs or bug reports about this. (Christmas Edition) Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Curtis: The Windows editor, like most other editors for Windows, virtual wraps as you edit, using the specified character limit in the options. If you copy a few lines of text you've typed in the Windows editor and paste it in NotePad, you'll note that the text isn't *really* wrapped. So, on sending, the text is sent formatted as is, i.e., with no wrapping. That means that TB's Windows-like editor is useless, plain and simple. If there is no way to send messages with correct line wrapping, one can't use it, and I can't see any point in putting it in. I myself got used to MicroEd, with time, but a friend of mine, coming from Outlook, of course he can't bear alt+l, nor the auto-format feature the way it works in MicroEd. He *needs* a Windows-like text editor, and I myself would like a lot to get rid of alt+l. If a way to put hard returns in the right place before sending can't be found, with the Windows-like editor, then I'd say that TB has three editors but none of them is completely usable. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler stops working
Roelof Otten: Hallo Luca, L I need my scheduler to send mail with a 5 minutes interval, but it stops L working after half an hour or so. Won't checking your mail every five minutes with combined send/delivery not work for you? For a series of reasons I'd prefer not to involve my POP server for the same account, my set of filters would get too complicated. I could set a bogus pop server to do the same operation without actually downloading email with the same account, but I should also disable the Windows sound that would bother me at each error, every five minutes :-) Would it be possibile to use the Windows scheduler to launch a .bat file every five minutes with a /sendaccount command for The Bat? Hope this bug will be fixed soon. There's no point in having a scheduler and not being able to use it. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduler stops working
I need my scheduler to send mail with a 5 minutes interval, but it stops working after half an hour or so. I see that this is a known bug, but in my case it seems more serious with respect to its description here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1944nbn=7 I tried many ways: date limits, number of repetitions ... it always stops working whenever it likes. Is there any workaround for this? Tia. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring TB data folders and settings from a logical unit to another.
Luca: Now I see that not all my mail folders appear empty: TB correctly finds some of them on the new e: volume - where I copied all my mail directories - and in properties/general for all these folders I can read directory: default The folders which TB still searches in u: for, are those ones with a directory specified in properties/general/directory, where the old u: path still appear. Where does TB store these paths, if not in the Windows registry? I may have found the trick: TB stores non-default paths in some of the account.* files. I can see it with an ex editor. So, there is no way to move the whole lot of TB mail directories without manually modifying paths in folder/properties, once for each single folder which we specified a path for. === For those who need to move TB mail directories more than rarely, I guess that the best way to configure TB is never specify any path, neither in account/properties/files and directories, nor in folder/properties/general, always leaving default path alone. Then, we will be able to move the whole directory tree by entering a new path in options/preferences/general/mail directory, where all mail dirs and subdirs will be physically moved by TB itself. I'm not sure about what happens when TB finds an existent tree in the new location. Surely, it asks for skipping/overwriting, but I didn't verify if it deletes existent files and directories with different names. Besides, I see that it leaves behind, in the old location, any non-active directory and file, all those ones which don't have any mail folder assigned in the current setup. So, in case you had some of these unassigned files to move as well, you could (close TB,) manually copy the whole MAIL/ tree. Then, modify the mail path in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Working Directory. This should now be the only valuable occurence of path specification, if I'm not mistaken. In case I am, (Users Depot? What's that?) one could simply import/export the entire HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\, with a search and replace operation in between. === I'm a little disappointed to see that all this matter, hardly intuitive, is so poorly documented (or, documentation is so difficult to find). TB's help is quite laconic about all this, preferences/general and /system seem not to be documented at all, and the help button in those dialogs has no help page associated (3.62). TB is an extremely powerful program, I think that a complete and healty documentation is a primary feature for users to be able to benefit by all this power. Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transferring TB data folders and settings from a logical unit to another.
I need to transfer all my TB mail directories and settings from a logical unit to another, on the same machine. I've found some tip in tbudl archives but that didn't solved the problem. Specifically: - My TB program files stay in c:\programs\The bat!\ - My data directories are all located in u:\The Bat!\, including MAIL directory (u:\the Bat!\MAIL\) - I need to transfer the whole data tree from u:\ to e:\. I tried by editing HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT, substituting any occurrence of u:\The Bat!\ with e:\The Bat!\, and copying the whole directory tree in e:\. Now TB still goes to u:, and if I delete u:\The Bat!\ it keeps on recreating the tree. In my Windows registry there is no occurrence of u:\The Bat!\ anymore. So, where else does TB store its settings? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring TB data folders and settings from a logical unit to another.
Roelof Otten: Hallo Luca, On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:21:08 +0100GMT (25-11-2005, 17:21 +0100, where I live), you wrote: L In my Windows registry there is no occurrence of u:\The Bat!\ anymore. Try the addrbook.ini file Done. No u: as well. Now I see that not all my mail folders appear empty: TB correctly finds some of them on the new e: volume - where I copied all my mail directories - and in properties/general for all these folders I can read directory: default The folders which TB still searches in u: for, are those ones with a directory specified in properties/general/directory, where the old u: path still appear. Where does TB store these paths, if not in the Windows registry? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments, raw bodies and REGEXPMATCH.
Roelof Otten: The only work around I can think of is with a filter that triggers on the messages with those attachments, and set as actions to extract the attachments, import those attachments (run TB as an external program with the /import parameter) ... Robin Anson: you might be able to do what you want by creating a filter that exports the message, and then running a batch file on that exported message to process it. ... Thank you both, I will try. I can't help suggesting to add some %OMESSAGESOURCE macro, sort of, to the powerful script language in The Bat, if possible. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachments, raw bodies and REGEXPMATCH.
I need to estract the subject: fields from message headers contained in .msg attachments, and use these subjects to compose automatic replies. My problem is that in my auto-reply template I don't know how to tell TB to search the original attachment, or the whole raw message, for strings that match the regexp (?-s)Subject:.*. I was only able to search the original message text (with %REGEXPTEXT or %REGEXPMATCH) where of course TB can't find the subject I need, since it is in the .msg attachment. Is there a way? Hope I made myself clear enough. Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with %TO: macro in a reply template.
Hi all, I'm trying to set a reply template in a create automatic reply filter, with these two instructions: %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] This creates a reply with no To: field. AFAIK, TB is not supposed to do that. If my reply template contains just %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] it creates a reply with a To: field containing two addresses, as it's supposed to do: TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's going wrong? It's me or is it my TB Home 3.51.10? Thanx for any help. -- Luca -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with %TO: macro in a reply template.
Oto Ziak: 2005/9/22, Luca [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm trying to set a reply template in a create automatic reply filter, with these two instructions: %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] This creates a reply with no To: field. AFAIK, TB is not supposed to do that. Create new MSG, not Create automatic reply. Er ... no. I need a true reply. The above is just an example, to make things more simple here. The real filter would include a regexp in place of address of mine, to pick addresses from the original message I want TB to reply to. I think the above example is valid, and it seems to show a bug in TB. Can anyone confirm? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with %TO: macro in a reply template.
Roelof Otten: Hallo Luca, L %TO= L %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] L This creates a reply with no To: field. AFAIK, TB is not supposed to do L that. You could try to drop both %To= macros and replace them with %SetHeader(To,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) It works for me, even with my regexp in it: %SETPATTREGEXP=[^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]+%- %SetHeader(To,%REGEXPMATCH='%OSUBJ') Thank you very much. I bought TB right for this function, I need it to handle Yahoogroup's moderation requests, that come in this form: Subject: moderation request -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc Your signature delimiter doesn't work. Sorry, I forgot I'm posting with Agent+Gmane instead of TB. I ended out with two signatures. Thank you for enforcing top quoting too. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter debug
On Monday, July 30, 2001, CaLViN wrote, If this is what you are looking for you may want to try the current beta or wait for the next version... Yes, It's what I want, but a prefer wait the stable version. Thanks. -- Luca Minuti Using The Bat! v1.53d -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filter debug
Hi all, I often add new rules to the sorting office/filter. Then I try the rules with the folder|re-filter function. So The Bat! give me an output like: Message processed: 25, Message filtered: 4. Can I have more detail about witch message was filtered? Thanks. -- Luca Minuti Using The Bat! v1.53d -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Dispatching mail on server and filter actions
19/11/2000, A . Curtis Martin:
The documentation is rather poor and the Selective Download item is a
revamp of the original Kill-filters item. Luckily it's very
straightforward to use.
Thanx. I only can't understand what's the "manual only" choice used
for: I can't see how to activate rules manually, in selective
downloading.
Most important, I guess there's no chance to perform other actions
besides kill/ignore ones, isn't it? I mean templates, macro ... I'd
like to be able do send automated replies to the authors that I kill.
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Re: Dispatching mail on server and filter actions
23/11/2000, A . Curtis Martin: On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:31:50 +0100, Luca wrote these comments: L I mean templates, macro ... I'd like to be able do send automated L replies to the authors that I kill. If this is to spam then that is largely pointless. No. It's for people who use to send html emails. I want to intercept their messages (filtering on a Content-Type: basis) and trash them without downloading. Then to inform the authors that I don't want to read their fancies, nor to pay for downloading them, and that if they want me to read their messages they have to revert to plain text email. -- Luca -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Dispatching mail on server and filter actions
Is there any way to perform filtering actions when dispatching mail on server? E.g., can I automatically kill all emails form a certain author, or with a certain header, directly on my pop/imap server without downloading the message body? "Selective download" item in sorting office seems to be a nice one, but I can't find any help about it. Is there any more specific doc than TB's online help about that and the "dispatch mail on server" function? Thanx. -- Luca -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Account and mailboxes mass export
I'm playing with /export command. I'm only able to export one mailbox at a time. Is there any way to perform a massive export of accounts and mailboxes? Thanx. -- Luca -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send Again
25/10/2000, Michael S. Greenbaum:
Thanks very much. Sounds like a fairly easy workaround.
No workaround is needed I think, since shift+f6 (re-send) works
according to the account/properties/transport/delivery settings. If
you choose "deferred", the command works exactly as Eudora's send
again (the message is re-queued, then it's editable).
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Re: Default Email
14/10/2000, Karin Spaink: Eudora stops asking. I still have Eudora and use it to access old e-mail, but it doesn't take over after I've used it. That happens if you answer "no" once (to the question "am I to do the default program") having checked the box "don't ask me again". -- Luca -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB and Windows emulators
09/10/2000, Jamie Dainton: Luca wrote: L Does TB run fine under Windows emulation on Linux (Wine) and MacOS? #define fine I'm going to buy a Mac powerbook soon. My intention is to use a single mail client on both computers, transferring mailboxes and all to and fro, when I'm to play away. So I'd like to know if I'll be able to use TB on Mac for mail checking when I'm not home, since I don't like the idea to give up TB nor PC for my email when I'm home. I'm also interested in Linux. That's another kettle of fish, ok, but I wonder if TB is ok for that too. "Fine" means that it runs with no risk of data loss and it doesn't turn crippleware. Thanx. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB and Windows emulators
Does TB run fine under Windows emulation on Linux (Wine) and MacOS? -- Luca -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
