Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar
Hello Avram, On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 you wrote: >>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT), >>> Achdut18 wrote: >>> >>> I just updated to ver.5.1.1. After updating the The Bat image icon >>> disappeared from the task bar. ... Any ideas as to how I can fix this? AS> Thomas replied: >>> The only idea I have is to find the Bat! exe file, right click it and >>> choose the option "Pin to Taskbar", if you have that option. AS> And then, Jack suggested: >> If I assume you're running Windows 10 then thebat.exe can be found here: >> C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\TheBat.exe. >> Once you've found it, right-click on it to select it then left-click on it to >> bring up the context menu where you'll find the create shortcut option. AS> I solved this problem myself: I right-clicked on the existing task bar AS> icon to delete it. After deleting it, the correct The Bat icon popped up in its place!! Magic! AS> I can't explain why what happened, happened. But, it now works. AS> Thank to all with their suggestions. Congratulations Avram, I'm glad you solved it so easily. It's just as well as I just noticed that I mixed up right-click and left-click in my instructions. I'm sure you would have realized it but I hate making stupid mistakes. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar
>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT), >> Achdut18 wrote: >> >> I just updated to ver.5.1.1. After updating the The Bat image icon >> disappeared from the task bar. ... Any ideas as to how I can fix this? Thomas replied: >> The only idea I have is to find the Bat! exe file, right click it and >> choose the option "Pin to Taskbar", if you have that option. And then, Jack suggested: > If I assume you're running Windows 10 then thebat.exe can be found here: > C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\TheBat.exe. > Once you've found it, right-click on it to select it then left-click on it to > bring up the context menu where you'll find the create shortcut option. I solved this problem myself: I right-clicked on the existing task bar icon to delete it. After deleting it, the correct The Bat icon popped up in its place!! Magic! I can't explain why what happened, happened. But, it now works. Thank to all with their suggestions. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.5.1 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar
Hello Lore, On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 you wrote: LG> Hello Thomas, LG> LG> LG> Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 4:14:18 PM, you wrote: LG> LG> Hi Thomas, LG> Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 5:43:21 PM, you wrote: LG> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT), LG> Achdut18 wrote: LG> LG> I just updated to ver.5.1.1. After updating the The Bat image icon LG> disappeared from the task bar. ... Any ideas as to how I can fix this? LG> Do you have a shortcut on your Desktop? If so, delete the shortcut on the LG> taskbar and just drag the shortcut from the Desktop top the taskar. LG> That would be too easy. I don't have a shortcut on my desktop. LG> LG> -- LG> Avi LG> Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.5.1 on Win 7 Pro LG> The only idea I have is to find the Bat! exe file, right click it and LG> choose the option "Pin to Taskbar", if you have that option. If I assume you're running Windows 10 then thebat.exe can be found here: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\TheBat.exe. Once you've found it, right-click on it to select it then left-click on it to bring up the context menu where you'll find the create shortcut option. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 4:14:18 PM, you wrote: > Hi Thomas, > Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 5:43:21 PM, you wrote: >> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT), >> Achdut18 wrote: >> >>> I just updated to ver.5.1.1. After updating the The Bat image icon >>> disappeared from the task bar. ... Any ideas as to how I can fix this? >> Do you have a shortcut on your Desktop? If so, delete the shortcut on the >> taskbar and just drag the shortcut from the Desktop top the taskar. > That would be too easy. I don't have a shortcut on my desktop. > The only idea I have is to find the Bat! exe file, right click it and choose the option "Pin to Taskbar", if you have that option. -- Lore Galore The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs v9.3.3 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar
Hi Thomas, Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 5:43:21 PM, you wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT), > Achdut18 wrote: > >> I just updated to ver.5.1.1. After updating the The Bat image icon >> disappeared from the task bar. ... Any ideas as to how I can fix this? > Do you have a shortcut on your Desktop? If so, delete the shortcut on the > taskbar and just drag the shortcut from the Desktop top the taskar. That would be too easy. I don't have a shortcut on my desktop. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.5.1 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar
Hello Achdut18, On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT), Achdut18 wrote: > I just updated to ver.5.1.1. After updating the The Bat image icon > disappeared from the task bar. I thought that by right-clicking on the > generic icon and then right-cliicking on "The Bat" appliaction and then on > "properties" I could fix the problem by clicking on "change icon" and browse > for the .ico file, which was in the root directory for The Bat. However, > that merely changed the image that appears in the properties shortcut window > tab. I have rebooted several times, but that doesn't help. Any ideas as > to how I can fix this? Do you have a shortcut on your Desktop? If so, delete the shortcut on the taskbar and just drag the shortcut from the Desktop top the taskar. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar
Hi, I just updated to ver.5.1.1. After updating the The Bat image icon disappeared from the task bar. I thought that by right-clicking on the generic icon and then right-cliicking on "The Bat" appliaction and then on "properties" I could fix the problem by clicking on "change icon" and browse for the .ico file, which was in the root directory for The Bat. However, that merely changed the image that appears in the properties shortcut window tab. I have rebooted several times, but that doesn't help. Any ideas as to how I can fix this? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.5.1 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail and two-step verification and The Bat
Hello Avram, Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 8:45:42 AM, you wrote: AS> Starting, yesterday, Google turned on two-step verification for one of my 16 gmail accounts. 16 gmail acounts? You are an Alphabet-junkie, or what? 😀 I would have said "dump Gmail for anything but Alphabet-related mail", but I fear that wouldn't be of great help for you. -- Kind Regards, Mark Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail and two-step verification and The Bat
Hello Avram, If you are in TBBeta, take a look at thread with Subject: SOT: Need application-specific password for Gmail, starting with Cheers, MAU > Hi > > > I am resending this e-mail because I forgot to add an important point. See, > below. > > > Starting, yesterday, Google turned on two-step verification for one > of my 16 gmail accounts. Thus, when I attempt to use The Bat to > download mail from that gmail account, nothing downloads. The log > file shows that an application-specific password is required and directs me > to this webpage: > > https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833#zippy=%2Cyou-still-cant-sign-in > However, the instructions there direct me to access the "app > passwords" feature and generate a password to use with the app. > So, I selected "mail"and generated the password. However, where do I > enter this information in The Bat so that TB can freely access the gmail > account. > > Any ideas as to what I need to do other than to turn off two-factor > identification? > > I have no difficulty accessing this account with my cell phone. > > > It is important to note that, of course, I already have a regular > password for the gmail account, which is entered in the appropriate box in > account properties: > > (Account - properties - transport - receive mail.) > > But, where is the "app password" supposed to be entered? > > > > -- > Avi > Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.4.4 on Win 7 Pro -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.4.5.3 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail and two-step verification and The Bat
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 08:45:42, Avram Sacks wrote: > But, where is the "app password" supposed to be entered? You use it instead of the regular password. But you should just switch the authentication type for GMail to OAuth, you won't need the app password then any more. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A good place to start from is where you are. -- Wolf's Law of Planning Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmail and two-step verification and The Bat
Hi I am resending this e-mail because I forgot to add an important point. See, below. Starting, yesterday, Google turned on two-step verification for one of my 16 gmail accounts. Thus, when I attempt to use The Bat to download mail from that gmail account, nothing downloads. The log file shows that an application-specific password is required and directs me to this webpage: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833#zippy=%2Cyou-still-cant-sign-in However, the instructions there direct me to access the "app passwords" feature and generate a password to use with the app. So, I selected "mail"and generated the password. However, where do I enter this information in The Bat so that TB can freely access the gmail account. Any ideas as to what I need to do other than to turn off two-factor identification? I have no difficulty accessing this account with my cell phone. It is important to note that, of course, I already have a regular password for the gmail account, which is entered in the appropriate box in account properties: (Account - properties - transport - receive mail.) But, where is the "app password" supposed to be entered? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.4.4 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmail and two-step verification and The Bat
Hi Starting, yesterday, Google turned on two-step verification for one of my 16 gmail accounts. Thus, when I attempt to use The Bat to download mail from that gmail account, nothing downloads. The log file shows that an application-specific password is required and directs me to this webpage: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833#zippy=%2Cyou-still-cant-sign-in However, the instructions there direct me to access the "app passwords" feature and generate a password to use with the app. So, I selected "mail"and generated the password. However, where do I enter this information in The Bat so that TB can freely access the gmail account. Any ideas as to what I need to do other than to turn off two-factor identification? I have no difficulty accessing this account with my cell phone. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.4.4 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!
On Sunday, June 20, 2021, 09:49:49, Ian A. White wrote: > Now, those up with everything will know whats going however I have not the > foggiest idea as to what the +ACU- and +ACI means and why it is there. That looks like UTF-7 encoding (+ACU- is %, +ACI is "). No idea why the templates were corrupted like that, maybe the format changed at some point, and the conversion code didn't trigger properly. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The leak in the roof is never in the same location as the drip. -- Cannon's Cogent Comment Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [T/N: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!
Sorry, I prepared it as a plain text message but had to resend it and when I edited the message, the old quirk of changing the format back to HTML kicked back in and I forgot to switch it back. -- Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [T/N: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!
Title: Re: [T/N: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat! G'day Richard, Apologies for the way this comes through, but while the upgrade has gone through without a hitch as far as my message base and filters are concerned, my message templates have become horribly screwed up, hence the poor format of this message. To give you an idea of what is going on, here is what my reply template ends up being when I somply press the reply button. G'day +ACU-CapitalFirst+AD0AJQ-OFromFName, +ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-Reply+AF8-Ref+ACI +ACU-NOReadConfirm+ACU-Cursor+ACU-Quotes +ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-Signature+AF8-TB+ACI +ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-The+AF8-Bat+AF8-Beta+AF8-Discussion+AF8-Signature+ACI +ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-TB+AF8-Headers+ACI +ACU-SetEditor+AD0-1 +ACU-QInclude+AD0AIg-Default+AF8-Delay+ACI- Now, those up with everything will know whats going however I have not the foggiest idea as to what the +ACU- and +ACI means and why it is there. You can see what it was supposed to show from my previous message in this thread. Basically I have used separate quick templates that can be used across multiple folders and groups and then they get called up as %QT in a particular group etc. This way, if I need to change something, I only have to do it once and it ends up automatically across all the groups that use it. Anyone have any idea as to why this change has happened? Thanks. I am going to enter a sigdash even though I have no signature as I am mot a big fish eater. Well, you know what I mean :D Hopefully it comes down this time as the other thing is that it lost the from setting and used my default. One other thing is I have lost the message list tabs and am having to ferret around to find out how to get them back. I was trying to get rid of all the unnecessary windows like the quick reply window and the one at the root of an account. Much better to access them from menus and toolbars. That will learn me. Here goes. -- Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [T/N: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!
Hello Ian, > I need to preserve the existing message database and apart from a > separate copy of the messages and then doing Backup through the Tools > menu, is there any thing I need to do? In addition to the TB internal backup of your message database and settings, I would do a full backup of TB program files and data files. I would then uninstall TB and the message database so you can install 9.3.4 fresh without any possible corruptions that may have happened in between. Once your new 9.3.4 is installed you should be able to use TB's restore to restore your message database, address book and settings. This should avoid any quirky differences that may exist between 4.2 and 9.3.4. The full backup of TB program and dataa files will allow you to return to your pre-9.3.4 state just in case things do not go as smoothly as we both think they should. Best regards, Richard mailto:the...@newmangroup.com ======= Using The Bat! v9.3.4.18 Alpha (64 bit) on Windows 10 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 9.3.4 and imap
Hallo , I started using this version of the Bat! a couple of days ago with 2 imap accounts. I must say the Bat! is working not only smooth but flawlessly. I have not had any problems or errors at all! -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henk M. de Bruijn The Bat! Email System Home Edition version 9.3.4 (64 bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Easy way to switch from Voyager to The Bat
Hi Luca, on Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:52:32 +0200GMT (09.07.2020, 15:52 +0200GMT here), you wrote: LvT> Is there an easy way to switch from Voyager with OTFE to The Bat, mantaining LvT> all the message base, options and configuration? In Voyager create a complete backup (Menu -> Tools -> Backup). Install The Bat! and restore the backup. -- Cheers Peter Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Easy way to switch from Voyager to The Bat
Is there an easy way to switch from Voyager with OTFE to The Bat, mantaining all the message base, options and configuration? Tnx. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v9.2.1
Hi On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 5:29:02 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL wrote:- > Dear All, > Just wanted to let you know that version 9.2.1 is > now officially available :-) > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi Just to let you know that clicking Help | Check for Update from The Bat! Version 9.1.18 (64-bit) still gets the reply "Your version of The Bat! is most current." -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> She looked like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth - or anywhere else. Using The Bat! Version 9.1.18 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v9.2.1
Hi Stefan, Reinstating the toolbar is reason for me to upgrade.. Thank you! My partner is leery however, as version 7.0.0.56 runs on Linux also. Would it be possible to revert from the new version if we find out Linux is not working? On Wednesday, July 01, 2020 at 12:29:02 PM you wrote: STvT> Dear All, STvT> Just wanted to let you know that version 9.2.1 is now officially available :-) STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi STvT> What's new in The Bat! v9.2.1 since v9.1.18 released on April 22, 2020? STvT> [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000 STvT> components (GUI became much faster) STvT> [!] HTML rendering engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library v83.3) STvT> [+] Offline Mode (menu item "Options\Work Offline") and STvT> detection of the absence of the Internet connection to STvT> avoid useless mailbox checking attempts STvT> [+] Automatically generated colors are used for different STvT> email addresses in the Summary View STvT> [*] Message List and Folder Tree Tabs can be handled using STvT> the mouse wheel (scrolling, pressing and tilting) STvT> [*] Changes in message's memo are automatically saved STvT> [*] By default the newly created IMAP folders are added to the Mail Ticker's watch list STvT> [*] Messages with the empty "To:" fields are saved as STvT> draft instead of trying to send them STvT> [*] Changes in the appearance of the items in the message STvT> list and account/folder tree view STvT> [*] Added the option for the "old style" tree views and STvT> row density under "Options\Preferences\Other options" STvT> [*] Loading of the external media for HTML messages (to be STvT> extended) can be configured under the menu STvT> "Options\Preferences\Viewer/Editor\HTML Viewer" STvT> [*] (#0002014) Better automatic recognition of URLs with matching brackets STvT> [*] (#0002017) The "Select/Deselect" buttons for folders STvT> have been reorganized in the Message Finder (F7) window STvT> [*] Changes in the program's default layout for the first time run STvT> [-] Applying the left alignment by Alt+L in the MicroEd STvT> plain text editor called out the system's warning sound STvT> [-] The Escape key did not close the Address Book window STvT> [-] Quick Search was not activated by typing in the message list STvT> [-] HTML viewer popup menu was improperly positioned on high DPI STvT> [-] SmartSpace Reading is now working in any kind of text viewer STvT> [-] (#0001761) The issue which caused cascading error STvT> messages when replying to a message still being downloaded has been resolved STvT> [-] (#0001832) Inactive Internal PGP implementation was STvT> displayed in the list of available PGP engines STvT> [-] (#0001837) An Access Violation error message appeared STvT> in the Address History after deselecting folders for scanning STvT> [-] (#0001844) On the profile layout settings page the STvT> text was not displayed until a profile was manually selected STvT> [-] (#0001934) Buttons on the preview pane's header were too wide STvT> [-] (#0001961) Memo Autoview visibility is now maintained between sessions STvT> [-] (#0001967) Memo editor does not close when repeatedly pressing Shift+Ctrl+I STvT> [-] (#0002006) Message list tabs were not restored from Backup STvT> [-] (#0002021) Icons of the program's additional windows were not displayed STvT> [-] (#0002025) Unnecessarily deep nesting for the STvT> "Format\...\" color settings in the message editor has been eliminated STvT> [-] OAuth 2.0 authentication was not working for Mail.Ru STvT> [-] No default address book was created on the first start of the program STvT> [-] Superfluous empty spaces in the main window of the STvT> program appeared after restoring the data from the Home directory STvT> [-] Checkboxes on accounts' selection on restoring from Home folder were missing STvT> [-] The window for "Create New Account" appeared in the STvT> background and wasn't noticeable to the user -- Best Regards, Maggie http://www.OurCabinOnTheCreek.com The only difference between fiction and real life is that fiction has to make sense. -A Moscrip Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v9.2.1
Hello Stefan, > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi seamlessly installed and running since a few minutes. Thanks. Will, as always, watch for unusual behavior, I hope, in my simple use, I will have nothing to report. :-) -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.2.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18363 NordVPN vs. 6.30.10.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v9.2.1
Hello, Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 9:29:02 AM, Stefan wrote: > Dear All, > Just wanted to let you know that version 9.2.1 is now officially available > :-) > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi Yay! The standard toolbar is customizable again!!! Thanks! -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 9.2.1 OS: Windows 10.0 Build 18363 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v9.2.1
Dear All, Just wanted to let you know that version 9.2.1 is now officially available :-) https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi What's new in The Bat! v9.2.1 since v9.1.18 released on April 22, 2020? [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000 components (GUI became much faster) [!] HTML rendering engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library v83.3) [+] Offline Mode (menu item "Options\Work Offline") and detection of the absence of the Internet connection to avoid useless mailbox checking attempts [+] Automatically generated colors are used for different email addresses in the Summary View [*] Message List and Folder Tree Tabs can be handled using the mouse wheel (scrolling, pressing and tilting) [*] Changes in message's memo are automatically saved [*] By default the newly created IMAP folders are added to the Mail Ticker's watch list [*] Messages with the empty "To:" fields are saved as draft instead of trying to send them [*] Changes in the appearance of the items in the message list and account/folder tree view [*] Added the option for the "old style" tree views and row density under "Options\Preferences\Other options" [*] Loading of the external media for HTML messages (to be extended) can be configured under the menu "Options\Preferences\Viewer/Editor\HTML Viewer" [*] (#0002014) Better automatic recognition of URLs with matching brackets [*] (#0002017) The "Select/Deselect" buttons for folders have been reorganized in the Message Finder (F7) window [*] Changes in the program's default layout for the first time run [-] Applying the left alignment by Alt+L in the MicroEd plain text editor called out the system's warning sound [-] The Escape key did not close the Address Book window [-] Quick Search was not activated by typing in the message list [-] HTML viewer popup menu was improperly positioned on high DPI [-] SmartSpace Reading is now working in any kind of text viewer [-] (#0001761) The issue which caused cascading error messages when replying to a message still being downloaded has been resolved [-] (#0001832) Inactive Internal PGP implementation was displayed in the list of available PGP engines [-] (#0001837) An Access Violation error message appeared in the Address History after deselecting folders for scanning [-] (#0001844) On the profile layout settings page the text was not displayed until a profile was manually selected [-] (#0001934) Buttons on the preview pane's header were too wide [-] (#0001961) Memo Autoview visibility is now maintained between sessions [-] (#0001967) Memo editor does not close when repeatedly pressing Shift+Ctrl+I [-] (#0002006) Message list tabs were not restored from Backup [-] (#0002021) Icons of the program's additional windows were not displayed [-] (#0002025) Unnecessarily deep nesting for the "Format\...\" color settings in the message editor has been eliminated [-] OAuth 2.0 authentication was not working for Mail.Ru [-] No default address book was created on the first start of the program [-] Superfluous empty spaces in the main window of the program appeared after restoring the data from the Home directory [-] Checkboxes on accounts' selection on restoring from Home folder were missing [-] The window for "Create New Account" appeared in the background and wasn't noticeable to the user -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: German The Bat! forum "batboard.net" seems to be down
Warning: This is off topic == Hello! The German web forum "Batboard" (https://www.batboard.net) created by volunteers seems to be down. Any confirmations about this? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.7 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is there a way to log the interaction between The Bat! and GnuPG?
Hi Is there a way to log the interaction between The Bat! and GnuPG for debugging purposes? TB! fails to decrypt some of the encrypted messages I receive, giving as it's error message a portion of GnuPG's output (but not the part saying what went wrong). If use GnuPG on the command line and copy in the text from the body of the encrypted message, the message is decrypted without error. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Did you hear? They took the word gullible out of the dictionary Using The Bat! v8.8.2.5 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 17134 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous restart of The Bat when executing
Hello Achdut18, On Wed, 2 May 2018 17:23:49 -0500 GMT (03-May-18, 05:23 +0700 GMT), Achdut18 wrote: > Thanks for your response. See below, > Friday, April 27, 2018, 10:44:54 PM, you wrote: TF>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:20:37 -0500 GMT (28-Apr-18, 06:20 +0700 GMT), TF>> Avram Sacks wrote: >>> The Bat has been acting strangely for the past - approximately - >>> four months. It will, usually, but not always, automatically stop, >>> shut down, and then re-start, if I attempt to copy text into an >>> e-mail. > * * * TF>> I have experienced it a few times, not often. Only on my home TF>> computer, never on my laptop. My guess has always been that my TF>> computer does not habe enough RAM - old motherboard, it is maxed out TF>> at 3GB. No more slots. > But, I have 8 GB of RAM on my laptop. I don't believe lack of RAM > is the problem here. This can happen with just a few windows open. > This can happen in the same session several times in a row, and > then not happen. There is no consistency. > Any other ideas? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 8.3 under Windows 10.0 Build 16299 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous restart of The Bat when executing
Thanks for your response. See below, Friday, April 27, 2018, 10:44:54 PM, you wrote: TF> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:20:37 -0500 GMT (28-Apr-18, 06:20 +0700 GMT), TF> Avram Sacks wrote: >> The Bat has been acting strangely for the past - approximately - >> four months. It will, usually, but not always, automatically stop, >> shut down, and then re-start, if I attempt to copy text into an >> e-mail. * * * TF> I have experienced it a few times, not often. Only on my home TF> computer, never on my laptop. My guess has always been that my TF> computer does not habe enough RAM - old motherboard, it is maxed out TF> at 3GB. No more slots. But, I have 8 GB of RAM on my laptop. I don't believe lack of RAM is the problem here. This can happen with just a few windows open. This can happen in the same session several times in a row, and then not happen. There is no consistency. Any other ideas? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 7.1.18 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spontaneous restart of The Bat when executing
Hello Avram, On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:20:37 -0500 GMT (28-Apr-18, 06:20 +0700 GMT), Avram Sacks wrote: > The Bat has been acting strangely for the past - approximately - > four months. It will, usually, but not always, automatically stop, > shut down, and then re-start, if I attempt to copy text into an > e-mail. The text could be a URL from a website, or a portion of > a Power Point slide. It doesn't matter. > Unfortunately, when this happens, none of the open e-mails will > re-open. If I have 10 e-mails open, I either have to recall which > ones among any one of a dozen e-mail accounts, or forego having them > open, again, on my desktop. E-mails that are being edited for > sending will be in the outbox. However, open e-mail from the > in-box, will be back among the thousands (tens of thousands!!) of > e-mails and there is no way to recall all that were open. > This constant re-starting of The Bat is annoying. It never did > this before. I am using the same laptop that I have always used. > No hardware has been added or changed. Why is this happening and > what can I do to fix this? This happens about 95% of the time. The > few times it doesn't happen are usually right after the application has > restarted. I have experienced it a few times, not often. Only on my home computer, never on my laptop. My guess has always been that my computer does not habe enough RAM - old motherboard, it is maxed out at 3GB. No more slots. -- Cheers, Thomas. Travel Map: http://matadornetwork.com/travel-map/db757901ff009eef93a2fc09521fb6bf-1482632877 Message reply created with The Bat! 8.3 under Windows 10.0 Build 16299 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
spontaneous restart of The Bat when executing
The Bat has been acting strangely for the past - approximately - four months. It will, usually, but not always, automatically stop, shut down, and then re-start, if I attempt to copy text into an e-mail. The text could be a URL from a website, or a portion of a Power Point slide. It doesn't matter. Unfortunately, when this happens, none of the open e-mails will re-open. If I have 10 e-mails open, I either have to recall which ones among any one of a dozen e-mail accounts, or forego having them open, again, on my desktop. E-mails that are being edited for sending will be in the outbox. However, open e-mail from the in-box, will be back among the thousands (tens of thousands!!) of e-mails and there is no way to recall all that were open. This constant re-starting of The Bat is annoying. It never did this before. I am using the same laptop that I have always used.No hardware has been added or changed. Why is this happening and what can I do to fix this? This happens about 95% of the time. The few times it doesn't happen are usually right after the application has restarted. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 7.1.18 on Win 7 Pro Skokie, IL Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
>> I am resurrecting this old thread as after a long period of access to >> my GMAIL account via TB! I bought a "smartphone" It told me some >> unauthorized access had been attempted from outside my area and to >> change the password. > Just a remark: This happens to me often. Not only when I use a new > device but also when I log in from another country, and I travel a > lot. > You don't need to change your password. Just confirm "It was me." Then > all is fine. This happens to me too, also in almost all social media. and it is not because I travel, but because I use VPN. Such confirmations are just short, nonetheless, it is annoying getting that every day, even more if you your e.g. a PC, a tablet and a phone which use different VPN servers. Regards, Guus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hello Chris, On Friday, December 1, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Adrian, > On Wednesday, March 22, 2017, you wrote: >> Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote: >>> Is it possible to read and post >>> messages from within TB >> It certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the >> account in the first place and occasionaly for "website login >> required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and >> enable POP. >> In The Bat, just create an account like any other. >> SMTP = smtp.gmail.com >>secure to regular (startTLS) >>port 587 >> POP = pop.gmail.com >>secure to dedicated (TLS) >>port 995 >> Keep an eye on the account log. If your IP address for the actual >> Internet connection changes, you get "website login required" errors. >> That will probably happen the first time. Then just login at >> www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work. >> You might have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when >> actually logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you >> should only have to do it once. >> Adrian >> >> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: >> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html > I am resurrecting this old thread as after a long period of access to > my GMAIL account via TB! I bought a "smartphone" It told me some > unauthorized access had been attempted from outside my area and to > change the password. I did this and whilst i can access the account > via the web, TB! has now stopped sending or receiving may via GMAIL. I > checked that the allow less secure apps was still active. Every time I > try and connect via TB! I get the box in the second image. My settings > are as before, save for the change of password which I have re entered > several times with great care. Any ideas please? the "smartphone" > connects fine. Thanks! Oh, and I have put up an image of the log, too, > the third image. > http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail1.jpg > http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail2.jpg > http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail3.jpg > -- > Chris Wilson > "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" Sorry to reply to my own mail, but I returned to the GMAIL web interface and turned allow usage of less secure apps on and of a few times, and finally left it on again. After a few mails from GMAIL warning of the changes all is now well. It was definitely "ON" before, but for whatever reason it didn't seem to take, unless the smartphone is automagically changing it when it connects. But for now TB! is once again accessing the account for both fetch and send, apologies for the waste of bandwidth! -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hello Chris, On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:49:13 + GMT (01-Dec-17, 20:49 +0700 GMT), Chris Wilson wrote: [snip for brevity] > I am resurrecting this old thread as after a long period of access to > my GMAIL account via TB! I bought a "smartphone" It told me some > unauthorized access had been attempted from outside my area and to > change the password. Just a remark: This happens to me often. Not only when I use a new device but also when I log in from another country, and I travel a lot. You don't need to change your password. Just confirm "It was me." Then all is fine. > I did this and whilst i can access the account via the web, TB! has > now stopped sending or receiving may via GMAIL. I checked that the > allow less secure apps was still active. Every time I try and > connect via TB! I get the box in the second image. My settings are > as before, save for the change of password which I have re entered > several times with great care. Any ideas please? the "smartphone" > connects fine. Thanks! Oh, and I have put up an image of the log, > too, the third image. > http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail1.jpg You are publishing your email address. I hope you have a good spam filter. > http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail2.jpg Instead of using that function, go to Account / Properties / Transport and change the password there. Let us know whether it solves the problem. > http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail3.jpg I would like to see the full error log. Can you maximise that window? > "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" Wow. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 8.0.14 under Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hello Adrian, On Wednesday, March 22, 2017, you wrote: > Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote: >> Is it possible to read and post >> messages from within TB > It certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the > account in the first place and occasionaly for "website login > required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and > enable POP. > In The Bat, just create an account like any other. > SMTP = smtp.gmail.com >secure to regular (startTLS) >port 587 > POP = pop.gmail.com >secure to dedicated (TLS) >port 995 > Keep an eye on the account log. If your IP address for the actual > Internet connection changes, you get "website login required" errors. > That will probably happen the first time. Then just login at > www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work. > You might have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when > actually logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you > should only have to do it once. > Adrian > > Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html I am resurrecting this old thread as after a long period of access to my GMAIL account via TB! I bought a "smartphone" It told me some unauthorized access had been attempted from outside my area and to change the password. I did this and whilst i can access the account via the web, TB! has now stopped sending or receiving may via GMAIL. I checked that the allow less secure apps was still active. Every time I try and connect via TB! I get the box in the second image. My settings are as before, save for the change of password which I have re entered several times with great care. Any ideas please? the "smartphone" connects fine. Thanks! Oh, and I have put up an image of the log, too, the third image. http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail1.jpg http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail2.jpg http://www.gatesgarth.com/gmail3.jpg -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 you wrote: TF> Hello Jack, TF> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:08:46 -0500 GMT (09-Aug-17, 22:08 +0700 GMT), TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote: >> Hello Thomas, >> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 you wrote: TF>>> Hello MFPA, TF>>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:41:32 +0100 GMT (09/08/2017, 02:41 +0700 GMT), TF>>> MFPA wrote: What is useful for? It generates a QR code from text, but I can't see a way to decode a QR code. The "send email" function in the QR generatoe does not appear to do anything. Pasting a QR Code into an HTML-formatted email gives me an access violation. TF>>> I use it to generate QR codes. I don't have any other QR code TF>>> generator and am not sure what this has to do with email, but it is TF>>> useful for me. >> Try https://zxing.appspot.com/generator/, a more robust QR code generator. TF> Looks like it is not free text, but certain forms that can be filled TF> in and coded into QR. TF> Never mind, I am not looking for anything else than what I have in TF> TB!. Not sure what you mean by "not free text". -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hello Jack, On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:08:46 -0500 GMT (09-Aug-17, 22:08 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Hello Thomas, > On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 you wrote: TF>> Hello MFPA, TF>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:41:32 +0100 GMT (09/08/2017, 02:41 +0700 GMT), TF>> MFPA wrote: >>> What is useful for? >>> It generates a QR code from text, but I can't see a way to decode a QR >>> code. The "send email" function in the QR generatoe does not appear to >>> do anything. Pasting a QR Code into an HTML-formatted email gives me >>> an access violation. TF>> I use it to generate QR codes. I don't have any other QR code TF>> generator and am not sure what this has to do with email, but it is TF>> useful for me. > Try https://zxing.appspot.com/generator/, a more robust QR code generator. Looks like it is not free text, but certain forms that can be filled in and coded into QR. Never mind, I am not looking for anything else than what I have in TB!. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16.33 (ALPHA) under Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 you wrote: TF> Hello MFPA, TF> On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:41:32 +0100 GMT (09/08/2017, 02:41 +0700 GMT), TF> MFPA wrote: >> What is useful for? >> It generates a QR code from text, but I can't see a way to decode a QR >> code. The "send email" function in the QR generatoe does not appear to >> do anything. Pasting a QR Code into an HTML-formatted email gives me >> an access violation. TF> I use it to generate QR codes. I don't have any other QR code TF> generator and am not sure what this has to do with email, but it is TF> useful for me. Try https://zxing.appspot.com/generator/, a more robust QR code generator. -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, August 9, 2017, 11:09:01 AM, you wrote: > I use it to generate QR codes. I don't have any other QR code > generator and am not sure what this has to do with email, but it is > useful for me. I've never used it before, but just tested it (using TB! Version 7.3.12 (64-bit)), and it appears to work well, and is better than the various online generators that keep your data and show you ads as the cost of generating a code. It is not something I am going to use very often, but as you say, it is useful. -- Best regards, jbmailto:jb_li...@trink.co.uk Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hello MFPA, On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:41:32 +0100 GMT (09/08/2017, 02:41 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: > What is useful for? > It generates a QR code from text, but I can't see a way to decode a QR > code. The "send email" function in the QR generatoe does not appear to > do anything. Pasting a QR Code into an HTML-formatted email gives me > an access violation. I use it to generate QR codes. I don't have any other QR code generator and am not sure what this has to do with email, but it is useful for me. -- Cheers, Thomas. Travel Map: http://matadornetwork.com/travel-map/db757901ff009eef93a2fc09521fb6bf-1482632877 Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hi On Wednesday 9 August 2017 at 12:33:16 AM, in , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:- > Hello MFPA, > On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 you wrote: M>> Hi M>> What is useful for? M>> It generates a QR code from text, but I can't see M>> a way to decode a QR M>> code. The "send email" function in the QR M>> generatoe does not appear to M>> do anything. Pasting a QR Code into an M>> HTML-formatted email gives me M>> an access violation. > Well I was going to be clever and compose this reply > then generate a QR code of > the text, which I did. The following is what I received: > Your mail to 'TBUDL' with the subject > Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator? > Is being held until the list moderator can review it > for approval. > The reason it is being held: > Message body is too big: 216308 bytes with a > limit of 25 KB > Either the message will get posted to the list, or > you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you > would like to cancel > this posting, please visit the following URL: > https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/confirm/tbudl/030c0476716f3c505bd8131f2a4025852284bd3d > So, whether or not you receive it remains to be seen. > I had never used this > feature before and was curious as to whether or not I > would get an access > violation as you did. I did not. I get Access violation at address 005173AB in module 'thebat64.exe'. Read of address I get this consistently by pasting the QR Code into a message in the HTML editor and either pressing "send" or just waiting 15-30 seconds. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> When you're through changing, you're through Using The Bat! v7.4.16.14 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hello MFPA, On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 you wrote: M> Hi M> What is useful for? M> It generates a QR code from text, but I can't see a way to decode a QR M> code. The "send email" function in the QR generatoe does not appear to M> do anything. Pasting a QR Code into an HTML-formatted email gives me M> an access violation. Well I was going to be clever and compose this reply then generate a QR code of the text, which I did. The following is what I received: Your mail to 'TBUDL' with the subject Re: The Bat!'s QR Code generator? Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 216308 bytes with a limit of 25 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/confirm/tbudl/030c0476716f3c505bd8131f2a4025852284bd3d So, whether or not you receive it remains to be seen. I had never used this feature before and was curious as to whether or not I would get an access violation as you did. I did not. -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat!'s QR Code generator?
Hi What is useful for? It generates a QR code from text, but I can't see a way to decode a QR code. The "send email" function in the QR generatoe does not appear to do anything. Pasting a QR Code into an HTML-formatted email gives me an access violation. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Nothing a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster won't cure! Using The Bat! v7.4.16.14 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! PAD xml file
CC: TBBETA Hello! We have a PAD XML file that describes latest The Bat! release version, download URL, file size, etc, at https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/thebat.xml It updates automaticlally whenever we release a new version. If you host links to The Bat!, and can automatically check the PAD file, you can use the above URL. Our server supports Last-Modified and E-Tag (If-Modified-Since and If-None-Match), so your tool can check the file often. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hello MFPA, On Saturday, March 25, 2017, you wrote: > Hi > On Wednesday 22 March 2017 at 2:57:10 PM, in > , Chris Wilson wrote:- >> I >> set the GMAIL account to allow access to insecure >> apps, but I may try >> and set it to OFF again and see if it is vital to >> connectivity. > That setting is required due to Google trying to subvert one of the > connection protocols by adding their own proprietary extension that > almost no mail applications understand. >> As an aside, I am using an old V 5.8.10 TB!. I am >> quite happy with it >> save for one thing that really bugs me. If I am >> reading a message in a >> pre view pane and a new message arrives in >> that folder, I am >> immediately slung out of it and the message is >> marked read. Does the >> current version have this, to me, annoying trait? > I have never seen that, but I jumped from v4.0.38 to v7.x. I don't > know if it is a bug in particular versiond, or the result of some > configuration setting. > There might be a later version you are able to upgrade to on your > existing licence - check Help | About. The next version above 5.8.10 > that is on Ritlabs's Archived Versions page [0] is 6.0.12. > [0] <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive-versions.php>. OK, thanks for the explanation re the GMAIL setting, I'll leave well alone, and re the later versions of TB! You have been most helpful, thanks again. -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hi On Wednesday 22 March 2017 at 2:57:10 PM, in , Chris Wilson wrote:- > I > set the GMAIL account to allow access to insecure > apps, but I may try > and set it to OFF again and see if it is vital to > connectivity. That setting is required due to Google trying to subvert one of the connection protocols by adding their own proprietary extension that almost no mail applications understand. > As an aside, I am using an old V 5.8.10 TB!. I am > quite happy with it > save for one thing that really bugs me. If I am > reading a message in a > pre view pane and a new message arrives in > that folder, I am > immediately slung out of it and the message is > marked read. Does the > current version have this, to me, annoying trait? I have never seen that, but I jumped from v4.0.38 to v7.x. I don't know if it is a bug in particular versiond, or the result of some configuration setting. There might be a later version you are able to upgrade to on your existing licence - check Help | About. The next version above 5.8.10 that is on Ritlabs's Archived Versions page [0] is 6.0.12. [0] <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive-versions.php>. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Ultimate consistency lies in being consistently inconsistent Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 10.0 Build 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hello Adrian, On Wednesday, March 22, 2017, you wrote: > Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote: >> Is it possible to read and post >> messages from within TB > It certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the > account in the first place and occasionaly for "website login > required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and > enable POP. > In The Bat, just create an account like any other. > SMTP = smtp.gmail.com >secure to regular (startTLS) >port 587 > POP = pop.gmail.com >secure to dedicated (TLS) >port 995 > Keep an eye on the account log. If your IP address for the actual > Internet connection changes, you get "website login required" errors. > That will probably happen the first time. Then just login at > www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work. > You might have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when > actually logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you > should only have to do it once. > Adrian Thanks for all the well detailed replies, I am happy to say I am now able to read and write e-mail to my GMAIL account from within TB! I set the GMAIL account to allow access to insecure apps, but I may try and set it to OFF again and see if it is vital to connectivity. Thanks again everyone! As an aside, I am using an old V 5.8.10 TB!. I am quite happy with it save for one thing that really bugs me. If I am reading a message in a pre view pane and a new message arrives in that folder, I am immediately slung out of it and the message is marked read. Does the current version have this, to me, annoying trait? All the best. -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote: > Is it possible to read and post > messages from within TB It certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the account in the first place and occasionaly for "website login required" errors (see below). You need to look in the settings there and enable POP. In The Bat, just create an account like any other. SMTP = smtp.gmail.com secure to regular (startTLS) port 587 POP = pop.gmail.com secure to dedicated (TLS) port 995 Keep an eye on the account log. If your IP address for the actual Internet connection changes, you get "website login required" errors. That will probably happen the first time. Then just login at www.gmail.com and logout again. Then your email client will work. You might have to set "allow access for insecure apps" somewhere when actually logged in to gmail in a web browser, but if this happens you should only have to do it once. Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hello Chris, On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 you wrote: CW> 21 March 2017 CW> Due to a blacksheep.org mailing list suddenly, after some years, CW> deciding posts from my normal POP3 mail account and service provider CW> have a high SPAM count and bouncing them I have had to subscribe using CW> a newly created GMAIL account. Is it possible to read and post CW> messages from within TB! as i hate using a web browser for e-mail? if CW> so a brief guide treating me as an imbecile would be much appreciated CW> ;) Thanks! I don't remember the exact steps but you start at ACCOUNT>NEW and fill in the blanks. I have had a GMAIL account within TB! for a number of years now with no problem. My menu bar at the top of the window has an icon to GET NEW MAIL with a drop-down arrow next to it. Clicking on the arrow will give you the option of fetching mail from your primary account or fetching from all accounts at once. HTH. -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
Hi On Tuesday 21 March 2017 at 6:35:41 PM, in , Chris Wilson wrote:- > I have had > to subscribe using > a newly created GMAIL account. Gmail is just one of many possible service providers. > Is it possible to read > and post > messages from within TB! Yes. On the google website, log into your account. Find a setting (in account access and security settings) with the ever-so-slightly loaded name of "access for less secure apps", and make sure it is turned ON. Also on the gmail website, go to your mail account and click "settings" (which might be a sprocket wheel logo). Follow the link to "Forwarding and POP/IMAP". You need to enable POP or IMAP access, or both. In The Bat!, my current gmail settings are:- SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com Connection: Secure to Regular Port (STARTTLS) Port: 25 (you might need to use 26 or 465 or 587) Authentication: Tick in Box for "Perform SMTP Authorisation (RFC2554)" "same user/password as for mail retrieval" selected. Mail Server: pop.gmail.com (you could use IMAP instead) User: Recent:myUsername Password: xxx Connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS) Port: 995 (you might need to use 993) Authentication: Regular -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Versifiers write poems for it. Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 10.0 Build 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GMAIL account using The Bat!
21 March 2017 Due to a blacksheep.org mailing list suddenly, after some years, deciding posts from my normal POP3 mail account and service provider have a high SPAM count and bouncing them I have had to subscribe using a newly created GMAIL account. Is it possible to read and post messages from within TB! as i hate using a web browser for e-mail? if so a brief guide treating me as an imbecile would be much appreciated ;) Thanks! -- Best Regards, Chris Wilson mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat!
Hi On Sunday 9 October 2016 at 4:42:06 PM, in , Mike Greenbaum wrote:- > I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will > support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not > sure why I'm using the 32-bit). Probably just inertia. Unless you use any plugins (TB!'s download page says "The 64-bit version of The Bat! does not accept 32-bit plugins".) > I would assume I'd download the latest version of The Bat! -- or > can I get the same version--which would be best to do? If you are like me at deleting files, you may still have the installation file you downloaded for your current version. The latest version (7.3.6) will have some bug fixes and a may have some additional features, but will not accept your v6.x licence. If you look at "Help | About" it might tell you what version your current licence covers you until. A licence that covers 6.4.x will be good to either the last 6.x.x version (6.8.8?) or the last 7.0.x version (7.0.0.56?), depending on when you bought the v6 licence [0]. At the bottom of the TB! download page is a link to "Archived versions of The Bat!"[1]. [0] <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#policy> [1] <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive_version.php> -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> He who rests on his laurels wears them on wrong end. Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows 10.0 Build 14393 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat!
>> I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will >> support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm >> using the 32-bit). >> I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site. >> Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I >> can find instructions about moving everything to a new machine? A wise man would zip up the entire mail folder and put it somewhere (Disk, dropbox etc) just in case Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat!
Hello Mike, On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 08:42:06 -0700 GMT (09-Oct-16, 22:42 +0700 GMT), Mike Greenbaum wrote: > In the next week or so, I will be replacing the computer on which The Bat! is > located. > I'm a registered user of 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) currently on a Windows 7 machine. > I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will > support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm > using the 32-bit). > I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site. > Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I > can find instructions about moving everything to a new machine? > I would assume I'd download the latest version of The Bat! -- or > can I get the same version--which would be best to do? > Can I then simply select Restore from the Tools menu and everything will be > back to normal? > Or is that making things too simple? 1.) Make a backup with your existing TB! installation. 2.) Copy that backup (*.tbk file) to the new machine. 3.) Download TB! onto thte new machine. 4.) when your installation starts, it will ask you whether you want to restore from a backup. It is that simple indeed. I have done thgat a couple of times. There are some settings that will not be restored; so minor that I don't remember which. I have always used the same version on the new machine. I don't know whether it will work with another version (64 instead of 32), others will chip in. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 7.3.6.3 (BETA) under Windows 10.0 Build 14393 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving The Bat!
In the next week or so, I will be replacing the computer on which The Bat! is located. I'm a registered user of 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) currently on a Windows 7 machine. I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm using the 32-bit). I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site. Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I can find instructions about moving everything to a new machine? I would assume I'd download the latest version of The Bat! -- or can I get the same version--which would be best to do? Can I then simply select Restore from the Tools menu and everything will be back to normal? Or is that making things too simple? Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! and Exchange, a workaround
hello, I hesitate to take up space here; no one responded to my first (June 13) request for help perhaps because no one else is running The Bat! with Exchange. But since I did find a work around, I thought I should report it in case it helps someone. If you aren't interested in The Bat! working (or not) with Exchange, or if you cannot abide emails that post on the top of the old one, stop reading here. As I wrote back in June, in order to get The Bat! to work with Exchange I had to run Outlook at the same time: > I have had some issues making TB! play nicely with Exchange, which > is, as I said, used by my place of employment. I have never been > able to use TB without using the Outlook profile. In Properties, > under Transport, I use the "Existing profile" option. In addition, I > have to have Outlook running (minimized on the desktop) for the TB > to find what it needs to connect to the Exchange server. On June 9 this arrangement stopped working. It started working again, with one change, yesterday. The change is that I now need to run two Outlook windows at the same time for The Bat! to work. That is, I open one window, then open another, minimize both, start The Bat! and it works as expected. I can also start The Bat! first, it doesn't seem to matter. I hope this helps anyone else still trying to get The Bat! to work with Exchange. If anyone can figure out _why_ this works, I'd be interested in knowing. Thom Parkhill [original message follows] From: Thomas Parkhill To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Date: Monday, June 13, 2016, 9:49:52 PM Subject: The Bat! and Exchange ===8<==Original message text=== hello, Recently (June 9 to be exact) TB!'s relationship with the Exchange server where I work has ceased working. I have uninstalled TB! and reinstalled it; I have not cleaned the registry. I have asked my work's IT folks if the Exchange server was altered last Friday, but I haven't received an answer. I think it has not because the IT person who would have done any changes will be out of his office until Tuesday. He would not have made changes and then left for a long weekend. There may have been some big Windows 10 update done in the background, but . . . well maybe. I am wondering if anyone else has TB! running happily with Exchange and if so, if you've had a similar experience. If you are not trying to work with Exchange, you need not read further unless you are curious. I have had some issues making TB! play nicely with Exchange, which is, as I said, used by my place of employment. I have never been able to use TB without using the Outlook profile. In Properties, under Transport, I use the "Existing profile" option. In addition, I have to have Outlook running (minimized on the desktop) for the TB to find what it needs to connect to the Exchange server. This has been the case since version 6.xx whenever coexisting with Exchange became possible. I am currently running version 7.1.18 with three accounts. My two nonExchange accounts -- a local ISP account and my gmail account -- work just fine. Here's what the account log gives: 2016-06-12, 08:52:48: SEND - sending mail message(s) - 1 message(s) in queue !2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details 2016-06-12, 08:54:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-12, 09:20:35: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-12, 10:03:11: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-12, 22:38:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-13, 10:44:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages Meanwhile Outlook on the same desktop machine is working just fine. I am sending this email using it. TB! just stopped working sometime last Thursday night. I'm at a loss as to why Outlook works but TB!, using the same profile, can no longer seem to log into the "MAPI subsys
The Bat! and Exchange
hello, Recently (June 9 to be exact) TB!'s relationship with the Exchange server where I work has ceased working. I have uninstalled TB! and reinstalled it; I have not cleaned the registry. I have asked my work's IT folks if the Exchange server was altered last Friday, but I haven't received an answer. I think it has not because the IT person who would have done any changes will be out of his office until Tuesday. He would not have made changes and then left for a long weekend. There may have been some big Windows 10 update done in the background, but . . . well maybe. I am wondering if anyone else has TB! running happily with Exchange and if so, if you've had a similar experience. If you are not trying to work with Exchange, you need not read further unless you are curious. I have had some issues making TB! play nicely with Exchange, which is, as I said, used by my place of employment. I have never been able to use TB without using the Outlook profile. In Properties, under Transport, I use the "Existing profile" option. In addition, I have to have Outlook running (minimized on the desktop) for the TB to find what it needs to connect to the Exchange server. This has been the case since version 6.xx whenever coexisting with Exchange became possible. I am currently running version 7.1.18 with three accounts. My two nonExchange accounts -- a local ISP account and my gmail account -- work just fine. Here's what the account log gives: 2016-06-12, 08:52:48: SEND - sending mail message(s) - 1 message(s) in queue !2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent 2016-06-12, 08:52:49: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details 2016-06-12, 08:54:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 09:20:27: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-12, 09:20:35: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 09:59:18: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-12, 10:03:11: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-12, 22:34:02: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-12, 22:38:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages !2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Error logging into MAPI subsystem. 2016-06-13, 10:40:25: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received 2016-06-13, 10:44:25: FETCH - receiving mail messages Meanwhile Outlook on the same desktop machine is working just fine. I am sending this email using it. TB! just stopped working sometime last Thursday night. I'm at a loss as to why Outlook works but TB!, using the same profile, can no longer seem to log into the "MAPI subsystem." But then I wouldn't know a MAPI subsystem if one were sharing breakfast with me. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks, Thom. Thom Parkhill New Brunswick Canada Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
>Allow me to suggest AceText. Clipboard manager and so much more: >http://www.acetext.com/ $40!!! but Arsclip is free and as powerful. To each his own. There are a couple of concepts in Arsclip with which I have difficulty using Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hello Rick, Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 11:56:43 PM, you wrote: >>Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called >>Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so >>you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there >>are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. >>http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ > Let me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager > http://www.joejoesoft.com/vcms/97/ Allow me to suggest AceText. Clipboard manager and so much more: http://www.acetext.com/ -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.8.10 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unable to open help file from within The Bat
Hi On Wednesday 1 October 2014 at 6:26:04 AM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > Yes, the_bat.chm is located in Program Files (x86)\The > Bat!, the same folder in which TheBat.exe is located. > Any ideas as to what the problem is? Unfortunately I have no idea. Maybe closing down The Bat!, renaming the_bat.chm and going to Add/Remove programs, selecting The Bat!, then "change", then "repair" might sort it. But maybe not. And if it isn't bothering you, do you want to bother? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Alcohol and Calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unable to open help file from within The Bat
Hello MFPA, Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 2:36:48 PM, you wrote: >> I cannot open the Help Topics file from within The Bat! M> Do you get an error message or does nothing happen? Nothing happens. There is no error message. >> I CAN open the file by clicking on the file, >> The_bat.chm, in Windows Explorer. But, why am I not able >> to do so anymore from within the The Bat? M> Is The_bat.chm still in the right place? (For my TB! version, that's M> the same foder as me thebat.exe, in %programfiles%\The Bat!.) Yes, the_bat.chm is located in Program Files (x86)\The Bat!, the same folder in which TheBat.exe is located. Any ideas as to what the problem is? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 6.0.0.28 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hi On Wednesday 24 September 2014 at 5:01:32 PM, in , Rick wrote: > It changed the template during one of the MSI installs. > I have changed it and now changed it back. I wonder if > it is one of those miscellaneous fixes that just came > out If there is any text below here, there is a problem > as there should not be any > > Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html There was only the list footer below that point, which is added as the message passes through the list server, so all seems well. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net After all is said and done, a lot more will be said than done. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
>A reply composing feature that doesn't show the whole message sounds dangerous. It changed the template during one of the MSI installs. I have changed it and now changed it back. I wonder if it is one of those miscellaneous fixes that just came out If there is any text below here, there is a problem as there should not be any Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hi On Wednesday 24 September 2014 at 2:47:54 AM, in , Rick wrote: > Before I get moderated .. I used quick reply and all > that extra below my comment was NOT in th QR A reply composing feature that doesn't show the whole message sounds dangerous. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Puns are bad but poetry is verse. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
>>et me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager > How about ARSCLIP ... long day >>>Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application >>>called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain >>>text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, >>>as there are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted >>>text. http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Before I get moderated .. I used quick reply and all that extra below my comment was NOT in th QR Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
>et me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager How about ARSCLIP ... long day >>Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called >>Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so >>you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there >>are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. >>http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ > Let me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager > http://www.joejoesoft.com/vcms/97/ > He also has the best file renamer out ther (Renamemaster) if you have that > need >> Hello MFPA, >> Monday, September 22, 2014, 11:06:19 PM, you wrote: M>>> Hi M>>> On Monday 22 September 2014 at 9:00:12 PM, in M>>> , jb_lists...@trink.co.uk M>>> wrote: >>>> Hello Forums, >>>> On Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:51:44 PM, Forums >>>> wrote: >>>>> When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from >>>>> the document rather than inheriting the format of the >>>>> document I am pasting into. Is there a setting I can >>>>> change to alter this please. I have looked through the >>>>> options but cannot see anything relevant. >>>> Try Ctl-Shift-V or Edit|Paste as plain text. M>>> I don't have that problem in TB! as I compose email in plaintext. In M>>> some other applications, I get around the problem by first pasting M>>> into something like Notepad, then copying from there and pasting into M>>> the application. >> Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may >> suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but >> expected it to work as other programs do. > > Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
>Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called >Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you >can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a >few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. >http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Let me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager http://www.joejoesoft.com/vcms/97/ He also has the best file renamer out ther (Renamemaster) if you have that need > Hello Forums, > On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 2:02:32 PM, Forums wrote: >> Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may >> suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but >> expected it to work as other programs do. > Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application > called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into > plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it > occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to > paste unformatted text. > http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
>Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called >Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you >can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a >few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. >http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Let me toss in Asdclip a clipboard manager http://www.joejoesoft.com/vcms/97/ He also has the best file renamer out ther (Renamemaster) if you have that need > Hello MFPA, > Monday, September 22, 2014, 11:06:19 PM, you wrote: M>> Hi M>> On Monday 22 September 2014 at 9:00:12 PM, in M>> , jb_lists...@trink.co.uk M>> wrote: >>> Hello Forums, >>> On Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:51:44 PM, Forums >>> wrote: >>>> When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from >>>> the document rather than inheriting the format of the >>>> document I am pasting into. Is there a setting I can >>>> change to alter this please. I have looked through the >>>> options but cannot see anything relevant. >>> Try Ctl-Shift-V or Edit|Paste as plain text. M>> I don't have that problem in TB! as I compose email in plaintext. In M>> some other applications, I get around the problem by first pasting M>> into something like Notepad, then copying from there and pasting into M>> the application. > Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may > suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but > expected it to work as other programs do. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unable to open help file from within The Bat
Hi On Monday 22 September 2014 at 10:44:17 PM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > I cannot open the Help Topics file from within The Bat! Do you get an error message or does nothing happen? > I CAN open the file by clicking on the file, > The_bat.chm, in Windows Explorer. But, why am I not able > to do so anymore from within the The Bat? Is The_bat.chm still in the right place? (For my TB! version, that's the same foder as me thebat.exe, in %programfiles%\The Bat!.) -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hello Julian, On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, you wrote: >> Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may >> suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but >> expected it to work as other programs do. > Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application > called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into > plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it > occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to > paste unformatted text. > http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ Thanks for sharing. I've often come across this frustration, but never got around to checking out a decent solution. -- Nick | n...@winchmore.com | M: +44 79 6717 4896 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hello Forums, On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 2:02:32 PM, Forums wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may > suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but > expected it to work as other programs do. Before Paste as Plain Text appeared in The Bat!, I used an application called Get Plain Text which turns whatever is on the clipboard into plain text so you can paste it in to something else. I still use it occasionally, as there are a few programs that don't have an option to paste unformatted text. http://clipdiary.com/getplaintext/ -- Julian Using The Bat! v6.5 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hello MFPA, Monday, September 22, 2014, 11:06:19 PM, you wrote: M> Hi M> On Monday 22 September 2014 at 9:00:12 PM, in M> , jb_lists...@trink.co.uk M> wrote: >> Hello Forums, >> On Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:51:44 PM, Forums >> wrote: >>> When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from >>> the document rather than inheriting the format of the >>> document I am pasting into. Is there a setting I can >>> change to alter this please. I have looked through the >>> options but cannot see anything relevant. >> Try Ctl-Shift-V or Edit|Paste as plain text. M> I don't have that problem in TB! as I compose email in plaintext. In M> some other applications, I get around the problem by first pasting M> into something like Notepad, then copying from there and pasting into M> the application. Thanks for the suggestions - I think that the plain text option may suffice on a piece I have tried. Should have thought of that but expected it to work as other programs do. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:d...@greenandgrass.co.uk --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hi On Monday 22 September 2014 at 9:00:12 PM, in , jb_lists...@trink.co.uk wrote: > Hello Forums, > On Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:51:44 PM, Forums > wrote: >> When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from >> the document rather than inheriting the format of the >> document I am pasting into. Is there a setting I can >> change to alter this please. I have looked through the >> options but cannot see anything relevant. > Try Ctl-Shift-V or Edit|Paste as plain text. I don't have that problem in TB! as I compose email in plaintext. In some other applications, I get around the problem by first pasting into something like Notepad, then copying from there and pasting into the application. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Kleptomaniac: a person who helps himself because he can't help himself. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
unable to open help file from within The Bat
I cannot open the Help Topics file from within The Bat!I CAN open the file by clicking on the file, The_bat.chm, in Windows Explorer. But, why am I not able to do so anymore from within the The Bat?(I used to be able to do it, but probably haven't tried for quite some time.) -- Avi Avram Sacks using The Bat Pro ver. 6.0.0.28 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pasting text into The Bat
Hello Forums, On Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:51:44 PM, Forums wrote: > When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from the document > rather than inheriting the format of the document I am pasting into. > Is there a setting I can change to alter this please. I have looked > through the options but cannot see anything relevant. Try Ctl-Shift-V or Edit|Paste as plain text. -- Julian Using The Bat! v6.5 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Pasting text into The Bat
Hello Forums, When I paste text into TB it brings in the format from the document rather than inheriting the format of the document I am pasting into. Is there a setting I can change to alter this please. I have looked through the options but cannot see anything relevant. Thanks -- Best regards, David mailto:d...@greenandgrass.co.uk --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat process keeps running after app is closed
>My pc's shutdown process generated an "End Program" pop up notice headlined, >"End Program - thebat" that stated "This program is not responding." My >choices are to either "end now" or "cancel." I get that a LOT and often have to kill it with task manager -- Rick "Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed." --Herman Melville v6.4.0.6 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat process keeps running after app is closed
On 12/31/2013 02:00 AM, Achdut18 wrote: Bottom line question, though, is, why would a process be running for The Bat after having closed the application? I too would like to know. I've had to abandon TB! a few months ago with the death of WinXP and am now struggling to try to make ThunderBird resemble the functionality that TB! gave me for years, but I ran into that extreme CPU usage long after apparently closing the program, almost every time I had to shut it down. I finally learned to monitor disk usage as well as that of the CPU, and force an 'End process" once the disk had been idle for at least 30 seconds, but it was a nuisance every time. -- Jim Kyle Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat process keeps running after app is closed
A> My pc's shutdown process generated an "End Program" pop up notice A> headlined, "End Program - thebat" that stated "This program is not A> responding." My choices are to either "end now" or "cancel." A> The Bat was closed so I looked at the processes running under Task A> Manager and saw that thebat.exe was running. IIRC, it was 284k. So, A> I reopened and closed The Bat, and the same thing happened. Now, I A> can just end the process, but why is a process running in the A> background when The Bat is closed? Perhaps this is somehow related A> to the stream write error message problem that has never been A> resolved? (See my earlier post from Dec 2) A> Bottom line question, though, is, why would a process be running for A> The Bat after having closed the application? I can confirm this on a random basis -- Rick A myriad bubbles were floating on the surface of a stream. 'What are you?' I cried to them as they drifted by. 'I am a bubble, of course' nearly a myriad bubbles answered, and there was surprise and indignation in their voices as they passed. But, here and there, a lonely bubble answered, 'We are this stream', and there was neither surprise nor indignation in their voices, but just a quiet certitude. - Wei Wu Wei Version 6.3.2.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat process keeps running after app is closed
Tuesday, December 31, 2013, 3:00:34 AM, you wrote: > Bottom line question, though, is, why would a process be running for > The Bat after having closed the application? I have the same thing happening fairly often, although I'm running a much older version (but also on XP SP3). If I just go away and let it run, it usually does finish eventually but it may take half an hour or more. If I'm impatient, I force it closed -- and so far have not seen any serious permanent damage to my files, although the display layout tends to change if I do this. My best guess, and it IS just a guess, is that TB is doing some cleanup housekeeping, since I do have a number of "cleanup on exit" options checked. It doesn't bother me frequently, since I leave TB running in a virtual machine on a Linux host 24/7 and only close it down to reboot after updates to either the guest (no more after today!) or the host. -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 4.2.18 under Xubuntu 12.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat process keeps running after app is closed
My pc's shutdown process generated an "End Program" pop up notice headlined, "End Program - thebat" that stated "This program is not responding." My choices are to either "end now" or "cancel." The Bat was closed so I looked at the processes running under Task Manager and saw that thebat.exe was running. IIRC, it was 284k. So, I reopened and closed The Bat, and the same thing happened. Now, I can just end the process, but why is a process running in the background when The Bat is closed? Perhaps this is somehow related to the stream write error message problem that has never been resolved? (See my earlier post from Dec 2) Bottom line question, though, is, why would a process be running for The Bat after having closed the application? -- Avi Avram Sacks Running The Bat ver. 5.8.1 on WinXP Pro sp3. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Friday, February 7, 2014, 9:01:25 AM, you wrote: JSL> On Friday, February 07, 2014 you wrote: A>> how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so A>> that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the A>> other laptop? A>> This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. A>> If it makes any difference, both laptops run Windows 7 Pro, while the A>> desktop runs Win XP Pro. * * * JSL> My suggestion then is to download WUALA, install it on both (all) of JSL> your computers and do what I did only have it sync the entire TB! JSL> folder on both (all) of your machines. Admittedly I have not done JSL> this with TB! However, after poking around the Help directory, I discovered that there is a synchronization tool right there, under "tools" in the toolbar. As a result, it seems that I now have three options for synchronizing the use of TB on two separate computers: Option (1) a. create backup of TB! as it exists on computer #1 b. copy backup file to computer #2 c. use .msi file to instal TB! on computer #2 d. during installation of TB! on computer #2, instead of creating a new account, restore from backup. e. ensure that all mail remains on server for as long as it takes in order to ensure that mail gets separately downloaded to both computers (I keep mail on both gmail and non-gmail servers for 90 days). f.pray that downloads of mail to TB! on computer #1 will not preclude downloading that same mail on to computer #2 With this scenario, it is not clear to me that mail *sent* from one computer will be seen on the other unless one makes sure to always send a copy to one's self with every sent message. Option (2) a. install TB! on computer #2 and follow the directions in the help file for creating a data file on computer #2 to be synchronized. b.generate a synchronization archive on computer #1 c. go to computer #2, choose tools/synchronize and synch with the data file created on computer #1. Option(3) a. install WUALA on both laptops b. create a backup folder of TB! on laptop #1 b. install TB! on the second laptop using the .msi file c. restore from the backup folder on laptop #2 d. use WUALA to keep both laptops in synch. Do you all agree that these are the options? So, what is the difference between using WUALA and TB!'s own synch function? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 7:32:42 PM, in , MFPA wrote: > I would say yes, unless they are propagated by > synchronising. Or by backing up the account properties > on one device and restoring that backup onto the other > device. Unless Tools | Synchronise can help, but that looks not much easier. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalising animal. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
2/10/2014 8:54 PM Hi MFPA, On 2/10/2014 MFPA wrote: M> You mean in "Network Administration" you are set as Admin for all M> accounts and your wife is set as User for her account only? No I mean I manage all the accounts on both computers and store the message bases for all accounts on my computer. My wife has a redundant message base on her computer. M> Do you download your wife's mail for her, or is it just stored on your M> computer? Is it stored on her computer as well? She has her own redundant message base managed by her copy of The Bat! running on her computer. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 6:35:16 PM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > So, it sounds like > the only way I can get new accounts created at the > root of the folder tree on one device to appear on > another device is by manually creating the account. I would say yes, unless they are propagated by synchronising. Or by backing up the account properties on one device and restoring that backup onto the other device. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Versifiers write poems for it. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 11:32:14 AM, in , Paul Van Noord wrote: > My computer is the administrator for all email accounts > including my wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer > for all accounts. My wife has her account set up as > POP3 on her computer. You mean in "Network Administration" you are set as Admin for all accounts and your wife is set as User for her account only? > When we > travel it is only necessary to take my computer because > my wife's messages are also stored on it. Do you download your wife's mail for her, or is it just stored on your computer? Is it stored on her computer as well? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Paul, Monday, February 10, 2014, 5:32:14 AM, you wrote: [snp] PVN> My computer is the administrator for all email accounts including my PVN> wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer for all accounts. My wife PVN> has her account set up as POP3 on her computer. If your wife creates an account, using her laptop, would you see it on your laptop? PVN> Both of us have our accounts set as IMAP on our phones and any sent PVN> messages are automatically BCC'd to our accounts to insure that there PVN> is a copy of all sent messages available for archiving in the POP3 PVN> account on the computers. PVN> The phones sync every 10 minutes and the computers download every 10 PVN> minutes. This is very easy to manage with minimal effort. No PVN> networking is needed. When we travel it is only necessary to take my PVN> computer because my wife's messages are also stored on it. I am very interested in your set-up. However, what if you travel and your wife stays at home. How would she read e-mail? How would she get access to her messages? PVN> If further remote management is needed we do it with TeamViewer. The PVN> client used on the phones is My Secure Mail for Android. I may have more Qs about this after looking into it. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello MFPA, Monday, February 10, 2014, 7:15:50 AM, you wrote: [snip] >> While >> the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional >> accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up >> The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have >> folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see >> while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the >> laptop does not have those folders. Is there some >> lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to >> point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically >> set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created >> on the desktop? M> Additional folders within an account should appear if you press M> CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+L after selecting the appropriate account in the folder M> tree. Additional accounts would need to be created as a new account on M> the laptop and pointed to the same location as the equivalent account M> on the desktop. I have 19 accounts at the root of the folder tree. All but one are active. So, it sounds like the only way I can get new accounts created at the root of the folder tree on one device to appear on another device is by manually creating the account. M> You could presumably make them appear automatically if you employed a M> method of synchronising the TB! installations. That is exactly what I am trying to do, and some suggestions have been posted. When I have time, I will take a close look at them. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Sunday 9 February 2014 at 6:39:54 AM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > Well, as mentioned above, it's just not possible to > have only one of the laptops use The Bat! exclusively > at any given time. Moreover, we each frequently leave > The Bat! open on both machines so both machines are > running The Bat! simultaneously a lot. Fair enough. I would be wary of potential issues if you both work in the same folders at the same time. > Perhaps. Could I schedule a download every five > minutes? And do no downloading on the laptops at all? Sounds reasonable. > The properties for each of the accounts appearing on > the laptop all point to the desktop MAIL folder > (which is at the root of c: on the desktop). [snipped] > While > the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional > accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up > The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have > folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see > while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the > laptop does not have those folders. Is there some > lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to > point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically > set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created > on the desktop? Additional folders within an account should appear if you press CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+L after selecting the appropriate account in the folder tree. Additional accounts would need to be created as a new account on the laptop and pointed to the same location as the equivalent account on the desktop. You could presumably make them appear automatically if you employed a method of synchronising the TB! installations. > Thanks. That's a good idea. I can't take credit. I saw it on this list a few years ago, I believe from Roelof. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net We're all shipwrecked on this idea that everything has to be explained. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
2/10/2014 6:18 AM Hi Achdut18, On 2/9/2014 Achdut18 wrote: A> Jack, thank you very much! I don't know if this will work, but is A> certainly worth a try. Does this only work if both machines are A> running on the same network, or, do they just need to be able to A> access the Internet? After reading this thread for some time I thought I should jump in with a description of the system we have used for many years: My computer is the administrator for all email accounts including my wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer for all accounts. My wife has her account set up as POP3 on her computer. Both of us have our accounts set as IMAP on our phones and any sent messages are automatically BCC'd to our accounts to insure that there is a copy of all sent messages available for archiving in the POP3 account on the computers. The phones sync every 10 minutes and the computers download every 10 minutes. This is very easy to manage with minimal effort. No networking is needed. When we travel it is only necessary to take my computer because my wife's messages are also stored on it. If further remote management is needed we do it with TeamViewer. The client used on the phones is My Secure Mail for Android. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Sunday, February 9, 2014, 6:14:51 PM, you wrote: > Jack, thank you very much! I don't know if this will work, but is > certainly worth a try. Does this only work if both machines are running > on the same network, or, do they just need to be able to access the > Internet? Since their home page is clear that the program syncs things via The Cloud, it would require all machines involved to connect via the internet, which might (let me emphasize MIGHT) be a security risk. For more than seven years now, I've run my copy of The Bat! in a way that allows me to access it from any workstation on my home-office LAN; that's by running it in a virtual machine using Oracle's VirtualBox virtualization program, and accessing it via the Remote Desktop protocol. Only machines on my local network can access it. This means I have only one copy of TB! and it is running 24/7, checking for new mail every 7 minutes. My solution might not be acceptable in your case, since if one of you were actually using TB! at any given instant, the other would not be able to connect until the first person hung up the RDP connection. (It's possible to configure RDP to allow multiple connections, but would be best to leave it at the default single-connect-only setting because two people trying to type at once would simply create a mess). Several years ago, I used an open-source program similar to PC Anywhere, called UltraVNC, that allowed my customers to connect to my system over the internet, with the connection encrypted with a key known only to me and built into the UltraVNC client I made available to the customers. This gave me full access to their system but under their control. If it's still around, you could use this to allow each laptop to connect to the desktop via UltraVNC, from anywhere at all, but again it would be single-user at a time. Just a couple of thoughts for alternate solutions... -- Best regards, Jim mailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 4.2.18 under Xubuntu 12.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Jack, Friday, February 7, 2014, 9:01:25 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Achdut18, JSL> On Friday, February 07, 2014 you wrote: * * * A>> Before setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can someone A>> explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so A>> that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the A>> other laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the "server", so that A>> when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop will still have access A>> to the mail. A>> This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. * * * JSL> I present this (possible) "solution" merely as a member of this august JSL> group trying to help a fellow member. I have no idea if it would JSL> actually work. * * * JSL> I found a FREE program JSL> called WUALA (as in voila) found at: http://www.wuala.com/. I have it JSL> set to start anytime either machine is re-booted so that it is always JSL> running on both machines. So far it has worked beautifully. Any JSL> changes made to the password database on either machine appear within JSL> a minute on the other machine. * * * JSL> My suggestion then is to download WUALA, install it on both (all) of JSL> your computers and do what I did only have it sync the entire TB! JSL> folder on both (all) of your machines. Admittedly I have not done JSL> this with TB! as my wife and I have separate email accounts so it was JSL> never necessary. My only concern is that I have a sneaking suspicion JSL> that TB! stores things in locations other than the TheBat folder in JSL> PROGRAM FILES (x86). Those locations of course could also be synced JSL> by WUALA in addition to the TB! folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86). Jack, thank you very much! I don't know if this will work, but is certainly worth a try. Does this only work if both machines are running on the same network, or, do they just need to be able to access the Internet? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello MFPA, Please see my comments, below. Friday, February 7, 2014, 1:55:38 PM, you wrote: >> I have added a new laptop, and now want to >> use the desktop for no other purpose than as a >> dedicated "mail server" so that regardless of which >> laptop is on site, the other laptop will be able >> to download and see mail. (When offsite, either >> laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) M> I would think about pointing the Laptop copies of The Bat! to the M> account settings and mail folder on the desktop PC rather than each M> having it own copy. But only if all run the same The Bat! version and M> preferably only one will be used at a time to run The Bat! Thanks for your suggestion. However, both my wife and I have separate home offices and we frequently are using mail at the same time. * * * M> If only one of the three machines will run The Bat! at a time, and if M> all three are the same version, I would designate the mail folder on M> the desktop PC where TB! stores all the messages and settings as a M> shared resource (or map its location as a network drive) and point all M> three The Bat! installations to the same files. Well, as mentioned above, it's just not possible to have only one of the laptops use The Bat! exclusively at any given time. Moreover, we each frequently leave The Bat! open on both machines so both machines are running The Bat! simultaneously a lot. >> This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using >> IMAP. I have tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. >> Other than this one, annoying glitch, my current scheme >> seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second glitch >> in that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it >> will not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop >> is turned on), until downloaded on the second laptop. M> What about if it is downloaded on the desktop PC? This could be M> scheduled (in Windows scheduler) to periodically open TB!, check mail, M> and (if wanted) exit TB!. Perhaps. Could I schedule a download every five minutes? And do no downloading on the laptops at all? >> However, the mail will then appear in duplicate in >> all of my non-gmail accounts. M> Are you already pointing The Bat! on the first laptop to the M> messagebase on the desktop? If so, shouldn't the message appear when M> the folder is refreshed? And if you are not sharing a messagebase, I M> can't work out the messages would duplicate The properties for each of the accounts appearing on the laptop all point to the desktop MAIL folder (which is at the root of c: on the desktop). While the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the laptop does not have those folders. Is there some lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created on the desktop? M> I suspect gmail ignores any settings to the contrary and deletes the M> message after first download. (Based on my setting to keep emails on M> server for several days after download, which is honoured by all M> except gmail.) >> Running "delete >> duplicates" every once in a while gets rid of the >> duplicates without a whole lot of effort on my part!) M> This could also be automated in Windows Scheduler so that it takes no M> effort at all. See The Bat! help file, under "advanced use." Thanks. That's a good idea. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Friday 7 February 2014 at 6:44:35 AM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > Hello Tbudl, > I have recently expanded my home network to include > three computers. Previously, it had one desktop and > one laptop. I have added a new laptop, and now want to > use the desktop for no other purpose than as a > dedicated "mail server" so that regardless of which > laptop is on site, the other laptop will be able > to download and see mail. (When offsite, either > laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) The Bat! used to have a "server mode" where one machine had TB! acting as an exchange server and the others in the local network were installed as clients. Alas, this was discontinued a few years ago. I would think about pointing the Laptop copies of The Bat! to the account settings and mail folder on the desktop PC rather than each having it own copy. But only if all run the same The Bat! version and preferably only one will be used at a time to run The Bat! > However, as I > explain below, I see some problems. > The primary installation of The Bat is on the desktop. > In July 2010, when the first laptop was acquired, I > asked how to set up The Bat so that both computers > could see the same files. It was suggested I create a > backup of The Bat on the desktop. Then use the .msi > file from the desktop to setup The Bat on the laptop, > but then, instead of creating an account, restore, > using the backup. > I did that. However, I notice that new mail folders > and sorting rules subsequently created on the desktop > are not seen on the laptop. Why is that? You cloned your installation of The Bat! as it was at the time, so that you had two identical copies of the message base and account settings that were not linked together. Changes would not be carried across to the other copy unless you kept them synchronised, an example of which Jack has already suggested. > Before > setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can > someone explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our > little home network so that any folder or rule > created on one laptop, will be seen on the other > laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the "server", > so that when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop > will still have access to the mail. If only one of the three machines will run The Bat! at a time, and if all three are the same version, I would designate the mail folder on the desktop PC where TB! stores all the messages and settings as a shared resource (or map its location as a network drive) and point all three The Bat! installations to the same files. > This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using > IMAP. I have tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. > Other than this one, annoying glitch, my current scheme > seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second glitch > in that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it > will not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop > is turned on), until downloaded on the second laptop. What about if it is downloaded on the desktop PC? This could be scheduled (in Windows scheduler) to periodically open TB!, check mail, and (if wanted) exit TB!. > However, the mail will then appear in duplicate in > all of my non-gmail accounts. Are you already pointing The Bat! on the first laptop to the messagebase on the desktop? If so, shouldn't the message appear when the folder is refreshed? And if you are not sharing a messagebase, I can't work out the messages would duplicate I suspect gmail ignores any settings to the contrary and deletes the message after first download. (Based on my setting to keep emails on server for several days after download, which is honoured by all except gmail.) > Running "delete > duplicates" every once in a while gets rid of the > duplicates without a whole lot of effort on my part!) This could also be automated in Windows Scheduler so that it takes no effort at all. See The Bat! help file, under "advanced use." > If it makes any difference, both laptops run > Windows 7 Pro, while the desktop runs Win XP Pro. I'm not sure that it matters. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Achdut18, On Friday, February 07, 2014 you wrote: A> Hello Tbudl, A> I have recently expanded my home network to include three computers. A> Previously, it had one desktop and one laptop. I have added a new A> laptop, and now want to use the desktop for no other purpose than as a A> dedicated "mail server" so that regardless of which laptop is on site, A> the other laptop will be able to download and see mail. (When A> offsite, either laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) However, as I A> explain below, I see some problems. A> The primary installation of The Bat is on the desktop. In July 2010, A> when the first laptop was acquired, I asked how to set up The Bat so A> that both computers could see the same files. It was suggested I A> create a backup of The Bat on the desktop. Then use the .msi file from A> the desktop to setup The Bat on the laptop, but then, instead of A> creating an account, restore, using the backup. A> I did that. However, I notice that new mail folders and sorting rules A> subsequently created on the desktop are not seen on the laptop. Why is A> that?Before setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can someone A> explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so A> that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the A> other laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the "server", so that A> when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop will still have access A> to the mail. A> This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. I have A> tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. Other than this one, annoying A> glitch, my current scheme seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second A> glitchin that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it will A> not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop is turned on), until A> downloaded on the second laptop. However, the mail will then appear A> in duplicate in all of my non-gmail accounts. Running "delete A> duplicates" every once in a while gets rid of the duplicates without a A> whole lot of effort on my part!) A> If it makes any difference, both laptops run Windows 7 Pro, while the A> desktop runs Win XP Pro. I present this (possible) "solution" merely as a member of this august group trying to help a fellow member. I have no idea if it would actually work. As an example: I have a password vault program (KeePass) on my desktop and on my wife's laptop. I wanted a way to sync the password database so that any changes/additions/deletions made on one machine would automatically appear on the other machine. I found a FREE program called WUALA (as in voila) found at: http://www.wuala.com/. I have it set to start anytime either machine is re-booted so that it is always running on both machines. So far it has worked beautifully. Any changes made to the password database on either machine appear within a minute on the other machine. I have it set up to sync the entire KeePass folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86) on both machines because it was the easiest thing to do, even though the only file that needed to be synced was the password database file itself. My suggestion then is to download WUALA, install it on both (all) of your computers and do what I did only have it sync the entire TB! folder on both (all) of your machines. Admittedly I have not done this with TB! as my wife and I have separate email accounts so it was never necessary. My only concern is that I have a sneaking suspicion that TB! stores things in locations other than the TheBat folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86). Those locations of course could also be synced by WUALA in addition to the TB! folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86). HTH. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Tbudl, I have recently expanded my home network to include three computers. Previously, it had one desktop and one laptop. I have added a new laptop, and now want to use the desktop for no other purpose than as a dedicated "mail server" so that regardless of which laptop is on site, the other laptop will be able to download and see mail. (When offsite, either laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) However, as I explain below, I see some problems. The primary installation of The Bat is on the desktop. In July 2010, when the first laptop was acquired, I asked how to set up The Bat so that both computers could see the same files. It was suggested I create a backup of The Bat on the desktop. Then use the .msi file from the desktop to setup The Bat on the laptop, but then, instead of creating an account, restore, using the backup. I did that. However, I notice that new mail folders and sorting rules subsequently created on the desktop are not seen on the laptop. Why is that?Before setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can someone explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the other laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the "server", so that when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop will still have access to the mail. This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. I have tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. Other than this one, annoying glitch, my current scheme seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second glitchin that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it will not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop is turned on), until downloaded on the second laptop. However, the mail will then appear in duplicate in all of my non-gmail accounts. Running "delete duplicates" every once in a while gets rid of the duplicates without a whole lot of effort on my part!) If it makes any difference, both laptops run Windows 7 Pro, while the desktop runs Win XP Pro. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
Hi On Sunday 26 January 2014 at 10:44:22 PM, in , Jernej Simoncic wrote: > You can read the rationale here: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn302074(v=vs.85).aspx > Thanks. It half made sense to me. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net A nod is as good as a wink to a blind bat! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
On Sunday, January 26, 2014, 23:14:12, MFPA wrote: > How/why is that a good plan? You can read the rationale here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn302074(v=vs.85).aspx -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > If there is a wrong thing to say, one will. -- Hartig's "How Is Good Old Bill?" Didn't you know we're divorced Law Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
Hi On Saturday 25 January 2014 at 2:40:11 PM, in , Jernej Simoncic wrote: > The plan going forward is that programs > won't be able to check if they're running on a newer > Windows version than the highest one they're marked as > being compatible with How/why is that a good plan? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net During an eruption - move away from the volcano - not towards it Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
On Saturday, January 25, 2014, 14:50:31, Rick wrote: > I updated my template, yet it shows 9200 Like I said, Windows 8.1 pretends to be Windows 8 unless the program is marked as being 8.1-compatible in it's manifest. The plan going forward is that programs won't be able to check if they're running on a newer Windows version than the highest one they're marked as being compatible with (and you can't mark your program as being compatible with a future Windows version, because Microsoft doesn't reveal the compatibility GUID until the public beta versions are available). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Washing your car to make it rain doesn't work. -- The Unapplicable Law Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
JS> On Saturday, January 25, 2014, 3:22:29, Rick wrote: >> That is the internal build number for 8.1 - it is in my sig too JS> It's not - 6.2 build 9200 is Windows 8, while 8.1 is 6.3 build 9600. I updated my template, yet it shows 9200 -- Rick The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose. - Hada Bejar Version 6.2.4.1 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
