Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-11 Thread Luc
 Good afternoon Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 11-11-2002  13:35:21 GMT+0100 (which was
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snipped a bit
G It will active on both flagged and non-flaged mails. Cab you see the
G problem?
  
 Could you post the other one too?
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-11 Thread Gerard

ON Monday, November 11, 2002, 3:25:01 PM, you wrote:

L  Could you post the other one too?


Luc,

That was the same on as you posted.

Shall we continue this on TBTEch?

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-11 Thread Luc
 Good evening Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 11-11-2002  19:54:52 GMT+0100 (which was
19:54:52 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G Shall we continue this on TBTEch?
  
 By all means
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-10 Thread Gerard

ON Sunday, November 10, 2002, 3:53:20 AM, you wrote:

L Although  i'm  still  puzzled  because  you say that it is a purchase
L request,  if it is not I will flag it. On the other hand you say that
L the  second filter trigger if words in the text that indicate product
L that  I  sell.  If  that is the case AND it is a purchase request (not
L flagged).  So,  if  it's  not  a  purchase request it must be flagged
L (first  filter)  but  the  second  filter  you  say  a  request  (not
L flagged?).  Sorry  if it takes so much time but i'm curious myself to
L see if the filters will work or not :-)
 
Hi Luc,

I use it for business hence the Purchase request.
- If it is NOT a purchase request, flag it
- If it has something I sell in the body and is NOT flagged (its a
purchase request and I like selling tings) then
- Copy to other folder and mark original read (I do not want to check it
twice)

I have use your filters which are accurate for the above except for the
mark read bit, which I changed and the work as expected.
I don't have a clue why this one works and mine don't. I have them
working on the same account.

I will try and fiddle a bit more with them.

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-10 Thread Luc
 Good afternoon Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 10-11-2002  13:21:54 GMT+0100 (which was
13:21:54 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G I have use your filters which are accurate for the above except for the
G mark read bit, which I changed and the work as expected.
  
 I'm glad they worked. About the read bit: have you tried enable the
 mark as read in the second filter: it will mark it as read and copy
 the message. Although it probably will mark both( original and copy
 as read) i'm afraid.
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-09 Thread Gerard

ON Saturday, November 9, 2002, 12:20:46 AM, you wrote:

L Gerard, i fiddled a bit around (but i'm not sure any more if it's what
L you want lol) and came up with two filters: the first looks for test
L in the subject, flags it and puts it in the folder test.

L The second filter looks for hallo in the text, puts it in the folder
L test, then copies it in the folder new test. The message is not
L flagged is enabled. Is this what you want, because you stated
L copied.

Hi Luc,

The first filter that looks for test in the subject should only flag
the email and leave it in the inbox.

The second filter should copy the msg to folder test when the word
hallo is in the text.

What I do is a check the subject for words that indicate that it is a
purchase request, if it is not I will flag it.

Second I look for words in the text that indicate product that I sell.
If that is the case AND it is a purchase request (not flagged) it might
be of interest to me and I copy it to a separate folder to look at.

The original then gets moved to and other folder for future reference.

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-09 Thread Luc
 Good night Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 9-11-2002  19:48:09 GMT+0100 (which was
19:48:09 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G The  first  filter that looks for test in the subject should only
G flag  the email and leave it in the inbox. The second filter should
G copy the msg to folder test when the word hallo is in the text.

Here's another try Gerard lol:
first filter looks for test in the subject, leaves it in the inbox
and flags it.

Second filter looks for hallo in the body, leaves it in the inbox
but unflagged and copies it to the folder test.
  
BeginFilter
Name: test
Active: 1
Source: \\Luc\Inbox
Target: \\Luc\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 20test
Actions: faFlag
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


BeginFilter
Name: New test
Active: 1
Source: \\Luc\Inbox
Target: \\Luc\Inbox
CopyFolder: \\Luc\test
MainSet: 30hallo
Actions: faCopyMsg,faoContinueProcessing,faoAdvNoFlagged
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

Although  i'm  still  puzzled  because  you say that it is a purchase
request,  if it is not I will flag it. On the other hand you say that
the  second filter trigger if words in the text that indicate product
that  I  sell.  If  that is the case AND it is a purchase request (not
flagged).  So,  if  it's  not  a  purchase request it must be flagged
(first  filter)  but  the  second  filter  you  say  a  request  (not
flagged?).  Sorry  if it takes so much time but i'm curious myself to
see if the filters will work or not :-)
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-08 Thread Luc
 Good afternoon Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 5-11-2002  23:48:16 GMT+0100 (which was
23:48:16 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G As you can see from me explanation above I
G get flagged and non flaged msg were I only wanted the Non-Flagged
  
 Indeed, strange behaviour. Could you post your filter so i can try it
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-08 Thread Gerard

ON Friday, November 8, 2002, 5:46:42 PM, you wrote:

L  Indeed, strange behaviour. Could you post your filter so i can try it
L  out?

Hi Luc,
   If you want to try it out, it might be better if you tried to set-up
   2 similar filters and see if you can get the same behaviour.
   First filter set the flag if the subject matches
   Second filter copies the msg to a folder if a word in the body text
   is found.

   Thanks for your help

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-08 Thread Luc
 Good evening Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 8-11-2002  20:17:10 GMT+0100 (which was
20:17:10 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G If  you  want  to  try  it  out, it might be better if you tried to
G set-up 2 similar filters and see if you can get the same behaviour.
Gerard, i fiddled a bit around (but i'm not sure any more if it's what
you want lol) and came up with two filters: the first looks for test
in the subject, flags it and puts it in the folder test.

The second filter looks for hallo in the text, puts it in the folder
test, then copies it in the folder new test. The message is not
flagged is enabled. Is this what you want, because you stated
copied.

BeginFilter
Name: test
Active: 1
Source: \\Luc\Inbox
Target: \\Luc\test
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 20test
Actions: faFlag
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


BeginFilter
Name: New test
Active: 1
Source: \\Luc\Inbox
Target: \\Luc\test
CopyFolder: \\Luc\test new
MainSet: 30hallo
Actions: faCopyMsg,faoContinueProcessing,faoAdvNoFlagged
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-08 Thread Luc
 Good night Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 8-11-2002  20:17:10 GMT+0100 (which was
20:17:10 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G If  you  want  to  try  it  out, it might be better if you tried to
G set-up 2 similar filters and see if you can get the same behaviour.
  
Gerard, i fiddled a bit around (but i'm not sure any more if it's what
you want lol) and came up with two filters: the first looks for test
in the subject, flags it and puts it in the folder test.

The second filter looks for hallo in the text, puts it in the folder
test, then copies it in the folder new test. The message is not
flagged is enabled. Is this what you want, because you stated
copied.

BeginFilter
Name: test
Active: 1
Source: \\Luc\Inbox
Target: \\Luc\test
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 20test
Actions: faFlag
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


BeginFilter
Name: New test
Active: 1
Source: \\Luc\Inbox
Target: \\Luc\test
CopyFolder: \\Luc\test new
MainSet: 30hallo
Actions: faCopyMsg,faoContinueProcessing,faoAdvNoFlagged
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter 
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Luc
 Good evening Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 5-11-2002  08:52:24 GMT+0100 (which was
8:52:24 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G I am now wondering, based on your experience, that the flag might not
G be seen if it is set by a filter and/or the filters are of the same group?
  
 Is it correct to assume that all those filters are in the incoming
 mail folder? And that you want the to be moved if not flagged and
 read? If that is right, i would make the filter that moves the
 unflagged messages in the read folder. I haven't tried it myself
 because i flag them manually. If i find the time today, i'll set my
 filters to flag them automatically and see if it works for me
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Luc
 Good evening Luc,
  
It was foretold that on 5-11-2002  18:20:45 GMT+0100 (which was
18:20:45 where I live) Luc would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
L If  i  find  the  time  today,  i'll  set  my  filters to flag them
L automatically and see if it works for me
Just  tried  it  out  and it works for me. Here's what i did: i have a
plain  filter that looks for keywords and if matched, the messages are
filtered  to  a  specific folder. They also get automatically flagged.
That  filter  i created in the incoming mail folder. From the messages
that  are  thus  filtered, i need those _with attachments_ filtered to
another  folder,  _after_ they are read. What i did is set up a filter
with  keywords  in  the  read  folder.  On  the advanced tab i enabled
message is not flagged  message has attachments.

Now  what  happens  is this: the _unread_ messages are filtered to the
appropriate  folder  and get flagged. After i read a message, i unflag
it and, if it has an attachment, it gets filtered to the other folder,
as  soon  as  i  move to the next message. The ones without attachment,
stay  in  their  folder.  If  i  decide  that i don't want to keep the
message, i don't unflag it but delete it.

Is  this  what  you're  looking  for  (albeit  without  the attachment
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 6:20:45 PM, you wrote:

L Is it correct to assume that all those filters are in the incoming
L  mail folder?

Yes

L And that you want the to be moved if not flagged and read?

It is a bit more complicated. I will list the filters for you:
 -  Flag if subject contains XXX
 -  If body contains XYZ and Not Flagged Then copy to folder Action1
 -  If body contains ABC and Not Flagged Then copy to folder Action2
 -  If sender = A1 move to folder Sender1
 -  If sender = A2 move to folder ... etc

L If that is right, i would make the filter that moves the unflagged
L messages in the read folder. I haven't tried it myself because i flag
L them manually.

I am not sure what you mean by read folder. I dont read all my mails :(
I use TB! for my business and to help me wade through 2000 mails a day.

L If i find the time today, i'll set my filters to flag
L them automatically and see if it works for me

Let me know how it went.


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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Luc
 Good evening Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 5-11-2002  19:05:58 GMT+0100 (which was
19:05:58 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G I am not sure what you mean by read folder.
 In the sorting office, there's a folder read messages.

G I  dont  read all my mails :( I use TB! for my business and to help
G me wade through 2000 mails a day.
Ah, then we have our wires a bit crossed :-).
Before we go over your filters: i assume they all need to be applied to the
same message, where it depends on what's in the subject, body and
sender? Or do the filters apply on separate messages?

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 7:09:36 PM, you wrote:

L Just  tried  it  out  and it works for me. Here's what i did: i have a
L plain  filter that looks for keywords and if matched, the messages are
L filtered  to  a  specific folder. They also get automatically flagged.
L That  filter  i created in the incoming mail folder. From the messages
L that  are  thus  filtered, i need those _with attachments_ filtered to
L another  folder,  _after_ they are read. What i did is set up a filter
L with  keywords  in  the  read  folder.  On  the advanced tab i enabled
L message is not flagged  message has attachments.

L Now  what  happens  is this: the _unread_ messages are filtered to the
L appropriate  folder  and get flagged. After i read a message, i unflag
L it and, if it has an attachment, it gets filtered to the other folder,
L as  soon  as  i  move to the next message. The ones without attachment,
L stay  in  their  folder.  If  i  decide  that i don't want to keep the
L message, i don't unflag it but delete it.

L Is  this  what  you're  looking  for  (albeit  without  the attachment
L thingie)?

Luc,

It is getting close. The problem is that I don't want to use a read
filter, I want to do it in one go. But your results have given me some
thought about possible option. I will work these out when I have time.

 I still believe this is a bug and that I filled the report on good
 grounds :)

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 7:41:29 PM, you wrote:

L Ah, then we have our wires a bit crossed :-).
L Before we go over your filters: i assume they all need to be applied to the
L same message, where it depends on what's in the subject, body and
L sender? Or do the filters apply on separate messages?

No, these are all the same single message that gets processes in steps.
The reason I do this is to speed things up.

First they all go through the flagging filter and then all get checked
against a number of body text filters.

I could combine the flagging with the text but I still would need a flagging
filter in the end to flag all the msg's that weren't filtered by the
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Luc
 Good evening Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 5-11-2002  20:36:12 GMT+0100 (which was
20:36:12 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G No, these are all the same single message that gets processes in steps.
 What  about this? If the subject meets your keyword, the message gets
 flagged. This will have as a result, that, when the next filter needs
 to look for the keywords in the body in the same message, that filter
 will  not  work  because  you  tell  it  that  the  message has to be
 unflagged  which  can't be true because you just told it to flagg it.
 The  not  flagged condition will not work. Or am i misunderstanding
 something  here?  (i'm  a  bit  dense  today).  Btw, this might be to
 obvious  also  but  have  you enabled continue processing with other
 folders  on  the  Options  tab?  You have to enable this if you want
 TB! to
 continue  processing  the  next  filter  once  this  filter  has been
 triggered.  Normally,  if  TB!  finds  a match it will stop the
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-05 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 9:30:08 PM, you wrote:

L  Good evening Gerard,
  
L It was foretold that on 5-11-2002  20:36:12 GMT+0100 (which was
L 20:36:12 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
L snipped a bit
G No, these are all the same single message that gets processes in steps.
L  What  about this? If the subject meets your keyword, the message gets
L  flagged. This will have as a result, that, when the next filter needs
L  to look for the keywords in the body in the same message, that filter
L  will  not  work  because  you  tell  it  that  the  message has to be
L  unflagged  which  can't be true because you just told it to flagg it.

Almost, after the flagging filter is a filter that looks in the body and
if certain keywords are present moves the the msg to a folder. The onluy
option next to the leywords if Not Flagged.
The result is that ALL msg that match the text in the body get movedm
the one's with and without the flag set.

L  The  not  flagged condition will not work. Or am i misunderstanding
L  something  here?  (i'm  a  bit  dense  today).  Btw, this might be to
L  obvious  also  but  have  you enabled continue processing with other
L  folders  on  the  Options  tab?  You have to enable this if you want
L  TB! to
L  continue  processing  the  next  filter  once  this  filter  has been
L  triggered.  Normally,  if  TB!  finds  a match it will stop the
L  filtering  process  at  that  point.

Yep, that on was to obvious. As you can see from me explanation above I
get flagged and non flaged msg were I only wanted the Non-Flagged.

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-04 Thread Luc
 Good evening Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 1-11-2002  23:58:59 GMT+0100 (which was
23:58:59 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G I have filters using the message is not flagged functions but the
G whole function doesn't seem to work. Does it work for you?
  
 Yep, works like a charm.
 Here's my filter:  (personal items are replaced by BLA BLA)
BeginFilter
Name: BLA BLA
Active: 1
Source: \\BLA\BLA
Target: \\BLA\BLA\BLA
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40[BLA BLA]|[BLA BLA]|[BLA BLA]
AltSet:1: 10[BLA BLA] | [BLA BLA]
AltSet:2: 20[BLA BLA] | [BLA BLA] | [BLA BLA]
AltSet:3: 30[BLA BLA] | [BLA BLA] | [BLA BLA]| [BLA BLA]
AltSet:4: 00[BLA BLA] | [BLA BLA]
AltSet:5: 40 [BLA BLA] | [BLA BLA]
AltSet:6: 40[BLA]
Actions: faoAdvNoFlagged,faoAdvIsAttach
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Yahoo\Trash
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: BLA
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

This filter will move the message, if it is not flagged and if it has
attachements. After unflagging and going to the next unread message,
the unflagged message gets filtered.
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-04 Thread Gerard

ON Monday, November 4, 2002, 9:54:13 PM, you wrote:

L  Yep, works like a charm.
L  Here's my filter:  (personal items are replaced by BLA BLA)


Hi Luc,

How do you flag msg's?
Iuse a filter for that, which comes before the filter that looks it it
is flagged.

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-04 Thread Luc
 Good night Gerard,
  
It was foretold that on 4-11-2002  23:47:03 GMT+0100 (which was
23:47:03 where I live) Gerard would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
G How do you flag msg's?
I do it manually. Ctrl+G or clicking the little red dot besides the
messages.
What filter do you use?
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-04 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 1:36:43 AM, you wrote:

L I do it manually. Ctrl+G or clicking the little red dot besides the
L messages.
L What filter do you use?

I use incoming mail filters.

One of the first filters checks the Subject for keywords and set the
flag if the keywords are found.

Below that are a series of other filters that move mail to different
folders. All of these filters should NOT move them if the flag is set by
the first filter but Non of them do :(

I am now wondering, based on your experience, that the flag might not
be seen if it is set by a filter and/or the filters are of the same group?

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-03 Thread Gerard

ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 10:07:55 PM, you wrote:

L  If, in your filter, on the advaced tab you enable message is not
L  flagged and then flag the message before reading and hit delete, it doesn't get
L  filtered.
 
Hi Luc,
I have filters using the message is not flagged functions but the
whole function doesn't seem to work. Does it work for you?

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Delete filter bug?

2002-11-01 Thread Nick Danger
Can't believe I hadn't noticed this before but this seems wrong to me:

I have a folder set up with a read filter to transfer a message
to another folder when read.

If there's a single message in there and I delete it, it's gone and
doesn't get moved.

If there's multiple messages, then even though you delete a message it
still ends up in the filter to folder.  If there's three messages (as
an example) and as I read them I delete them, the first two still end
up in the filtered to folder, the last message will actually be
deleted.

Does that seem like a normal way it should work to anyone?

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-01 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Nick,

On Friday, November 1, 2002 14:42 your local time, which was 12:42 my
local time, Nick Danger [ND] wrote;

ND If there's multiple messages, then even though you delete a message it
ND still ends up in the filter to folder.  If there's three messages (as
ND an example) and as I read them I delete them, the first two still end
ND up in the filtered to folder, the last message will actually be
ND deleted.

I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
I wanted.

Therefore, I've totally re-worked my filters and they are all manual and
working as hot-keys using PowerPro.

ND Does that seem like a normal way it should work to anyone?

I don't believe that it should still filter a deleted message. Maybe
it's just the order the system runs it in, but I would prefer it to only
filter the massages that haven't been read and then deleted.

This is just what happened in my situation and to be honest, I actually
prefer the way I have it set-up now.

Cheers,

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-01 Thread Luc
 Good evening Chris,
  
It was foretold that on 1-11-2002  12:54:43 GMT-0800 (which was
21:54:43 where I live) Chris Weaven would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
CW I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
CW of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
CW folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
CW message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
CW I wanted.
  
 If, in your filter, on the advaced tab you enable message is not
 flagged and then flag the message before reading and hit delete, it doesn't get
 filtered.
 
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-01 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Luc,

On Friday, November 1, 2002 22:07 your local time, which was 13:07 my
local time, Luc [L] wrote;

L snipped a bit
CW I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
CW of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
CW folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
CW message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
CW I wanted.
  
L  If, in your filter, on the advaced tab you enable message is not
L  flagged and then flag the message before reading and hit delete, it doesn't get
L  filtered.

But isn't that a work around?

I don't know if I want to keep or delete the message until I've read it.

If you flag the message it's not filtered correct? You then read the
message and you want to keep it and therefore filter it, what happens?

It's not filtered.

Would you then have to manually remove the flag and manually re-filter
the folder?

I believe the correct way for this to work is for the read filter to
check if you've deleted the message in some way, rather than just
filtering it because you've read it. Maybe the filter kicks in as soon
as you open the message, rather than when you close it?

Overall, I'm not sure if there is a way to do what's required. I've
worked a way which includes flagging, parking and running manual
filters, but this is made quicker and easier using PowerPro.

Unless anyone knows a better way, I'm happy with this.

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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-01 Thread Luc
 Good night Chris,
  
It was foretold that on 1-11-2002  14:57:33 GMT-0800 (which was
23:57:33 where I live) Chris Weaven would mumble:
  
snipped a bit
CW But  isn't  that  a work around? I don't know if I want to keep or
CW delete the message until I've read it.
Here's how i do it:
i first flag the message. Then i read it and if i want to keep it, i
unflag it and move to the next message. The unflagged message gets
automatically filtered to the specified folder. And so on.
If the message (or the subject) is not of interest to me, i don't
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Re: Delete filter bug?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:54:43 -0800 GMT (02/11/02, 03:54 +0700 GMT),
Chris Weaven wrote:

ND If there's multiple messages, then even though you delete a message it
ND still ends up in the filter to folder.  If there's three messages (as
ND an example) and as I read them I delete them, the first two still end
ND up in the filtered to folder, the last message will actually be
ND deleted.

 I used to use automatic read filters right from my inbox. Probably 75%
 of the ones I'd read, I'd want to delete rather than filter to the
 folder. Problem was, even though I was hitting the delete in the
 message, it was still getting forwarded to the folder, which wasn't what
 I wanted.

This sounds familiar. No, I haven't experienced this, but it was
mentioned on one of the TB lists recently.

ND Does that seem like a normal way it should work to anyone?

No, I would call it an oversight (bug?) in the order in which the
commands (delete and move) are executed. That everything works fine if
you flag the message first, is another indicator that the order is
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