[tw] Re: Saving behaviour of a wiki on Tiddlyspot?

['Surya' via TiddlyWiki]

Ahhh okay.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f0400d21-3476-496e-8eaf-70d48d5a5203%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving behaviour of a wiki on Tiddlyspot?

[Birthe C]

Hi Surya,

The strange time is confusing when we have to restore backups from 
tiddlyspot. The host is in another time zone. Earlier today i looked at 
your wiki, if it is *that* wiki, at that time there were lots of tiddlers 
from your hard work yesterday. Now if I had not closed the tab with your 
wiki and not refreshed the browser, I could have saved a local copy of it 
all having tiddlers you had lost.

My friend and I saved some very hard tiddlywiki work at a time that way.

Birthe

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/98b45dd1-61e6-4c48-bfdf-26c1b46415fb%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving behaviour of a wiki on Tiddlyspot?

['Surya' via TiddlyWiki]

Hey Birthe :-)

A great, I found the "lost" changes from yesterday (but strange- the 
backup-index shows me a totally wrong time- I saved the wiki yesterday at 
about 03:00. The shown time is 17:00).

THANKYOU!!!

If another person used your computer and browser it might remember your 
> password and save your wiki, if that person is editing it. Otherwise saving 
> will download a local copy of your tiddlywiki.
>
I made the very small change yesterday before going to bed on my tablet- 
never I put my password there?!?


Okay, if the outsider person (without password) changes anything, it won't 
be saved? He will only download then the wiki?

Fine :-)

Surya

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f11e4e85-3d24-46f0-b608-2dd193826bf2%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving behaviour of a wiki on Tiddlyspot?

[Birthe C]

Hi Surya,
Have you tried to go to tiddlyspot backup. Your url/backup, to see if 
anything more recent was saved before the "accident".
No one is able to change anything in your wiki, they cannot save it. That 
is if the person does not have your password.

If another person used your computer and browser it might remember your 
password and save your wiki, if that person is editing it. Otherwise saving 
will download a local copy of your tiddlywiki.

Birthe

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bcad9112-47b1-45e6-8b85-e2b6b8d028f0%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki on Android with Tiddlyfox works

[James A Bernard]

As a side note for saving in Dropbox:

If you have the dropbox app installed, you can have either a file or a 
directory stored locally for off-line use. they are stored here:

file:///storage/emulated/0/Android/data/com.dropbox.android/files/[number]/scratch/[directory]

In a file manager (I use Ghost) I created the above location as a favorite 
and keep most of my tiddlywiki's there.
I go there and touch the file I want to use and open in Waterfox.
Each time I save a tiddler, the dropbox app notices the folder has changed 
and automatically updates.

Enjoy

On Monday, 20 November 2017 12:19:49 UTC+11, James A Bernard wrote:
>
> As a short term solution this works:
> Download and install Waterfox from their website - not the version on 
> Google play as it is not the same.
> Download TiddlyFox-1.0alpha18.xpi (2.0.1 won't work on android)
>
> These may not be needed (but I did them!) - try without and let us know
> open waterfox and enter:
> about:config
> Change settings to: 
> xpinstall.signatures.required = false
> extensions.autoupdate.enable = false
>
> Enter the file directory where you saved the xpi file into the address bar 
> (eg. file:///storage/emulated/0/Download/ )
> Touch on the xpi file - you'll get a diog box saying "blocked Addon and a 
> choice: dismiss or allow
> Touch allow
> Another box "Unverified addon" with cancel or install
> touch install
> Once installed you'll be asked to restart waterfox.
> do so and all should work
>
> This worked for me, your mileage may differ
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/96e348bd-bcde-47d1-aec9-48bc2359eb28%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[Eneko Gotzon]

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> I’ve been studying the “Downloads Overwrite Existing Files” sample…
>>
>
​Thank all you ​for all your work.

​Take care.
-- 
Eneko Gotzon Ares
enekogot...@gmail.com

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAEV4i4U65i9%2BXXvpOgdv%3D%3DrU_CJM%2BfNXRGuqrPXgDR-djcM_kA%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Ton,

Not sure what you're saying. Yes, you can change the download directory. 
But I keep my TW files in directories far away from the download directory. 
So I would either have to change the downloads directory whenever using TW 
or constantly be moving downloaded files out of the TW directory. Or use 
the save-as option, in which case I'll probably turn off auto-save ... and 
occasionally lose stuff.

"I guess every form of refuge has it's price" - Eagles - Lyin' Eyes

Thanks,
Mark


On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 8:22:16 AM UTC-7, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Mark & All,
>
> > If it only saves to a sub-directory of the downloads directory, that 
> would be inconvenient.
>
> Linux Mint 17.3, Chrome 59, Extension "Downloads Overwrite Existing Files".
>
> Chrome saves to my own directory set in Advanced settings.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/fc698497-54db-4fc8-bc09-4d9baa7f2a42%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Ton

If you have only one TW, or are happy to have them all in one dir, this 
will work great.

I sometimes feel spoiled with Tiddlyfox in FF with 7 TW all in very 
different places. But *SHOULD* I?

Or should I feel pissed-off that in the future keeping MY structure is 
gonna become a PITA?

Josiah :-)

Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Chrome saves to my own directory set in Advanced settings.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/890d16a5-5bb5-48a6-b918-c0eb86affed4%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S. 

Be glad you can get it to save to a (sort-of) user designated directory ... 
the last implementation *only* allowed saving to the default download 
directory. I'm referencing here the actual add-on at Chrome Webstore 

 
... I'm not sure what the tech underneath permits in potentio.

The big issue with Chromelonger term is whether its going to dump Apps ... 
which its says it *IS* going to do ... provisionally early 2018. The 
problem is that APIs on WebExtensions--i.e. what lives on--are essentially 
directly, at the moment, seriously antipathetic to direct overwrite saving 
of ANY kind. That's my understanding. I may be wrong, I HOPE I am, but I 
never seen anyone assert otherwise.

Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
> The current download saver promises to remember the last download 
> directory. But the chrome extensions may limit you to the download 
> directory and subdirectories. 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bbac41c0-09a2-4a14-bb03-0829c19d4757%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Mark & All,

> If it only saves to a sub-directory of the downloads directory, that 
would be inconvenient.

Linux Mint 17.3, Chrome 59, Extension "Downloads Overwrite Existing Files".

Chrome saves to my own directory set in Advanced settings.

Cheers,

Ton



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3b374496-2043-4175-8805-8432cdbbba00%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The current download saver promises to remember the last download 
directory. But the chrome extensions may limit you to the download 
directory and subdirectories. At least one of those in the link says ..

Absolute paths, empty paths, and paths containing back-references ".." will 
be ignored.
  

If it only saves to a sub-directory of the downloads directory, that would 
be inconvenient.

I'm still wondering if a more natural solution might be a shell script 
(different script for each platform) that would find the most recent TW 
file (based on stem name), save it to the the target working directory, and 
launch it. For the rest of the session, the user would work and save as 
usual.

Mark


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f396e5f6-c3e2-4971-b4a3-2323ff632a09%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[Jeremy Ruston]

> It’s not quite that bad: TiddlyFox will stop working in the latest versions 
> of Firefox, but those download overwriting plugins will still work.
> 
> 
> Do you have links for those plugins?, that are tested with latest FF or 
> nightly FF?

I’ve been focusing on Chrome extensions, on the basis that Firefox is striving 
for compatibility; developing against Chrome would appear to give us the 
broadest reach. I’ve been studying the “Downloads Overwrite Existing Files” 
sample, which appears at the bottom of this listing:

https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/samples#search:downloads 


Best wishes

Jeremy


> 
> -m
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ec96ab95-05dd-4d60-b345-4e85b65674c6%40googlegroups.com
>  
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/B65F0F32-1E60-4323-9F47-63F1D9437B5C%40gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario & Jeremy

I believe Jeremy was referring to the Chrome Overwrite Saver 


IF its a Web Extension that would be good news. *If its an "app", it too 
will be retired if Google go ahead with their 2018 plans*.

My overall feel is that we don't need to panic. In fact TiddlyWiki 
stalwarts will do fine with work like TiddlyServer & Noteself shaping up, 
as well as other approaches emerging.

HOWEVER, for average, normal users, the increasing difficultly of simple 
overwrite saving is, I think, a big issue, that will grow. I think it 
limits uptake of TW. Which is a great shame IMO. 

Josiah 

PMario wrote:
>
> Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> TiddlyTweeter wrote: In addition you should note that ALL standard 
>> browsers will cease simple overwrite saving by early 2018.
>>
>> It’s not quite that bad: TiddlyFox will stop working in the latest 
>> versions of Firefox, but those download overwriting plugins will still work.
>>
>
> Do you have links for those plugins?, that are tested with latest FF or 
> nightly FF?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a5c9f109-1b16-4b5a-b8a0-4ef777fc9e8a%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[PMario]

On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 11:22:25 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> In addition you should note that ALL standard browsers will cease simple 
> overwrite saving by early 2018.
>
>
> It’s not quite that bad: TiddlyFox will stop working in the latest 
> versions of Firefox, but those download overwriting plugins will still work.
>


Do you have links for those plugins?, that are tested with latest FF or 
nightly FF?

-m

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ec96ab95-05dd-4d60-b345-4e85b65674c6%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[Jeremy Ruston]

Until sometime in the last few months, Safari didn’t support directly 
downloading changes; instead one had to right click and save a base64 generated 
URL. Safari does now handle the downloads properly, so the standard HTML5 
fallback saver now works OK on Safari.

> As far as I am aware, Safari has never had "overwrite saving". To do it you'd 
> need an add-on for TiddlyWiki and Safari hasn't got one.

It wouldn’t need to be a TiddlyWiki-specific addon. There are addons for Chrome 
that force downloads to overwrite the previous file, and these work well with 
TiddlyWiki.

> In addition you should note that ALL standard browsers will cease simple 
> overwrite saving by early 2018.

It’s not quite that bad: TiddlyFox will stop working in the latest versions of 
Firefox, but those download overwriting plugins will still work.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



> 
> To understand what is happening read: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/4yyMPH-0hXg/SjIOy7aeAgAJ
> 
> There are a number of solutions. But if you are an ordinary user then 
> switching to Firefox is likely you best bet at the moment.
> 
> Regards
> Josiah
> 
> Sergei Gerasenko wrote:
> The problem is that Safari appends -1, -2, etc on each save, which is bad 
> when working with TiddlyWiki. I would like the original wiki file to be 
> overwritten.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/42d904a2-97f6-4be3-b6c6-4ad1985670c3%40googlegroups.com
>  
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/A7A21CF1-3218-4C89-9B96-3DAEFE355A45%40gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[TonyM]

Sergie,

I have not attempted to get tiddlywiki to save on safarie but I have just 
installed firefox and the plugin tiddlyfox on my mac mini and that works. 
Also I installed node.js on the MAC and that should work from within safari,

Regards
Tony

On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 1:04:40 AM UTC+10, Sergei Gerasenko wrote:
>
> The problem is that Safari appends -1, -2, etc on each save, which is bad 
> when working with TiddlyWiki. I would like the original wiki file to be 
> overwritten.
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 10:02:43 AM UTC-5, Sergei Gerasenko wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm running Safari 10.1.1. According to this Saving on Safari 
>> , I should 
>> get a dialog when trying to save on Safari, I don't :( Sorry if this is an 
>> FAQ.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Sergei
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a13f501e-ca0c-44c4-8e6a-f9141ddeadb3%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving in Safari

[Sergei Gerasenko]

The problem is that Safari appends -1, -2, etc on each save, which is bad 
when working with TiddlyWiki. I would like the original wiki file to be 
overwritten.

On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 10:02:43 AM UTC-5, Sergei Gerasenko wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm running Safari 10.1.1. According to this Saving on Safari 
> , I should 
> get a dialog when trying to save on Safari, I don't :( Sorry if this is an 
> FAQ.
>
> Thanks,
>   Sergei
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0a5c18bd-e731-419f-984c-78d62ec85c5f%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[Arlen Beiler]

@Mark, Yes. So if that's a problem please look elsewhere. But I am assuming
that is what most people want. I am working on a version that requests app
folder access if desired.

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Is your app going to ask for access to the entire dropbox ?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 10:36:33 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Or just host your standalone files on Dropbox and use
>> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ to access them. That is another
>> option.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Lost Admin  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For free certificates, you can have a look at both LetsEncrypt (
>>> https://letsencrypt.org/) and Startcom (https://www.startcomca.com/)
>>> which used to be StartSSL.
>>>
>>> Startcom uses something similar to the traditional ssl certificate
>>> request/validate/get approach.
>>>
>>> LetsEncrypt is fully automated but you need to have control over the
>>> server that the certificate will be used on (to run the agent).
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 11:06:58 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 If you have your own server, you might be able to add SSL. SSL requires
 a certificate, which used to run $100 a year. Some hosts will let you use a
 shared one that works for everyone on the machine. Or you can generate your
 own uncertified one. An uncertified certificate will cause your browser to
 generate alarming messages but you just add them as a permanent exception
 to your browser and then you're good to go. An uncertified certificate will
 encrypt your traffic just as well as a certified one, it's just that your
 browser doesn't have a chain of trust back to the uncertified one.

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms
>>> gid/tiddlywiki/2b846f3d-0b06-4f1d-9f4a-7b5f4d82b483%40googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>
>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> msgid/tiddlywiki/7bc8e9f8-9f2b-4436-8c63-8872e096fca6%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAJ1vdSTo%3D4_NgmnBBBzbksNrOMeT4t9nOYuwCOi6RJRgjezStw%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Is your app going to ask for access to the entire dropbox ?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 10:36:33 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Or just host your standalone files on Dropbox and use 
> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ to access them. That is another 
> option.
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Lost Admin  > wrote:
>
>>
>> For free certificates, you can have a look at both LetsEncrypt (
>> https://letsencrypt.org/) and Startcom (https://www.startcomca.com/) 
>> which used to be StartSSL.
>>
>> Startcom uses something similar to the traditional ssl certificate 
>> request/validate/get approach.
>>
>> LetsEncrypt is fully automated but you need to have control over the 
>> server that the certificate will be used on (to run the agent).
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 11:06:58 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> If you have your own server, you might be able to add SSL. SSL requires 
>>> a certificate, which used to run $100 a year. Some hosts will let you use a 
>>> shared one that works for everyone on the machine. Or you can generate your 
>>> own uncertified one. An uncertified certificate will cause your browser to 
>>> generate alarming messages but you just add them as a permanent exception 
>>> to your browser and then you're good to go. An uncertified certificate will 
>>> encrypt your traffic just as well as a certified one, it's just that your 
>>> browser doesn't have a chain of trust back to the uncertified one.
>>>
>>  
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2b846f3d-0b06-4f1d-9f4a-7b5f4d82b483%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7bc8e9f8-9f2b-4436-8c63-8872e096fca6%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[Arlen Beiler]

Or just host your standalone files on Dropbox and use
https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ to access them. That is another
option.

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Lost Admin  wrote:

>
> For free certificates, you can have a look at both LetsEncrypt (
> https://letsencrypt.org/) and Startcom (https://www.startcomca.com/)
> which used to be StartSSL.
>
> Startcom uses something similar to the traditional ssl certificate
> request/validate/get approach.
>
> LetsEncrypt is fully automated but you need to have control over the
> server that the certificate will be used on (to run the agent).
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 11:06:58 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> If you have your own server, you might be able to add SSL. SSL requires a
>> certificate, which used to run $100 a year. Some hosts will let you use a
>> shared one that works for everyone on the machine. Or you can generate your
>> own uncertified one. An uncertified certificate will cause your browser to
>> generate alarming messages but you just add them as a permanent exception
>> to your browser and then you're good to go. An uncertified certificate will
>> encrypt your traffic just as well as a certified one, it's just that your
>> browser doesn't have a chain of trust back to the uncertified one.
>>
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> msgid/tiddlywiki/2b846f3d-0b06-4f1d-9f4a-7b5f4d82b483%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAJ1vdSSm%3DXPAF%2Bcx6BsokjhATZktXHjOsn4cCV5FrjA9eyOZ7Q%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[Lost Admin]

For free certificates, you can have a look at both LetsEncrypt 
(https://letsencrypt.org/) and Startcom (https://www.startcomca.com/) which 
used to be StartSSL.

Startcom uses something similar to the traditional ssl certificate 
request/validate/get approach.

LetsEncrypt is fully automated but you need to have control over the server 
that the certificate will be used on (to run the agent).

On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 11:06:58 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> If you have your own server, you might be able to add SSL. SSL requires a 
> certificate, which used to run $100 a year. Some hosts will let you use a 
> shared one that works for everyone on the machine. Or you can generate your 
> own uncertified one. An uncertified certificate will cause your browser to 
> generate alarming messages but you just add them as a permanent exception 
> to your browser and then you're good to go. An uncertified certificate will 
> encrypt your traffic just as well as a certified one, it's just that your 
> browser doesn't have a chain of trust back to the uncertified one.
>
 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2b846f3d-0b06-4f1d-9f4a-7b5f4d82b483%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[David Gifford]

Thanks Mark! Very helpful information. Gonna bookmark this.

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:06 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> If you have your own server, you might be able to add SSL. SSL requires a
> certificate, which used to run $100 a year. Some hosts will let you use a
> shared one that works for everyone on the machine. Or you can generate your
> own uncertified one. An uncertified certificate will cause your browser to
> generate alarming messages but you just add them as a permanent exception
> to your browser and then you're good to go. An uncertified certificate will
> encrypt your traffic just as well as a certified one, it's just that your
> browser doesn't have a chain of trust back to the uncertified one.
>
> You mentioned that your Wordpress account got hacked, and I notice that a
> lot of people are suggesting .htaccess as a security step for WP.  In some
> systems you can add .htaccess straight from your account control panel. In
> others, you have to add a .htaccess file directly to the directory you want
> protected. The .htaccess file gives instructions to the server to not let
> anyone access files in a directory unless they have the right name and
> password. When you first attempt to browse a directory with this security
> on it a pop-up menu will ask for your name and password. After that (if
> memory serves) your name and password will be stored in cookies on your
> browser so you don't have to do it over and over again. .htaccess security
> is not invincible -- on some systems the actual password maximum is only 8
> characters. But if coupled with SSL, most hackers aren't going to take the
> time to brute force it. There's much easier places for them to plant their
> spam.
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 7:14:48 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi lost admin
>>
>> My concern is the one contained in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%
>> 20on%20TiddlySpot, since the store.php is the same process as Tiddlyspot.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Lost Admin  wrote:
>>
>>> When you say the insecurity of the store.php approach worries you, what
>>> exactly are you worried about?
>>>
>>> I agree there are security issues with store.php but I have seen far
>>> worse issues in commercial applications.
>>>
>>> Personally, I was concerned that store.php uses cleartext passwords in
>>> it's configuration file. So, I changed my copy to use a hash of the
>>> password (for the technical minded, I used the hash format for Apache
>>> Digest Authentication).
>>>
>>> Store.php has settings to override the tiddlywiki configured filename
>>> and backup directory, I used those to prevent someone from uploading
>>> arbitrary files.
>>>
>>> There is still an issue of brute force password guessing that I haven't
>>> decided how I want to resolve yet.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 4:16:48 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:


 It does concern me, though, the level of insecurity of the store.php
 approach. So I will still eventually experiment more with Noteself. But to
 be honest I do need the ability to link between files and permalink to
 share with others.
 ...

>>> Dave

 --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to
>>> pic/tiddlywiki/OCUp73Bads0/unsubscribe.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
>>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms
>>> gid/tiddlywiki/15a32c0d-1bc9-4a0a-8dc4-1f0ba849f031%40googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Gifford
>> Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City
>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> topic/tiddlywiki/OCUp73Bads0/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> msgid/tiddlywiki/a3f22134-533b-4254-b607-64eb08201c9c%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>
> For more options, 

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Dave,

If you have your own server, you might be able to add SSL. SSL requires a 
certificate, which used to run $100 a year. Some hosts will let you use a 
shared one that works for everyone on the machine. Or you can generate your 
own uncertified one. An uncertified certificate will cause your browser to 
generate alarming messages but you just add them as a permanent exception 
to your browser and then you're good to go. An uncertified certificate will 
encrypt your traffic just as well as a certified one, it's just that your 
browser doesn't have a chain of trust back to the uncertified one.

You mentioned that your Wordpress account got hacked, and I notice that a 
lot of people are suggesting .htaccess as a security step for WP.  In some 
systems you can add .htaccess straight from your account control panel. In 
others, you have to add a .htaccess file directly to the directory you want 
protected. The .htaccess file gives instructions to the server to not let 
anyone access files in a directory unless they have the right name and 
password. When you first attempt to browse a directory with this security 
on it a pop-up menu will ask for your name and password. After that (if 
memory serves) your name and password will be stored in cookies on your 
browser so you don't have to do it over and over again. .htaccess security 
is not invincible -- on some systems the actual password maximum is only 8 
characters. But if coupled with SSL, most hackers aren't going to take the 
time to brute force it. There's much easier places for them to plant their 
spam.

HTH
Mark




On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 7:14:48 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi lost admin
>
> My concern is the one contained in 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot, since the store.php is 
> the same process as Tiddlyspot.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Lost Admin  > wrote:
>
>> When you say the insecurity of the store.php approach worries you, what 
>> exactly are you worried about?
>>
>> I agree there are security issues with store.php but I have seen far 
>> worse issues in commercial applications.
>>
>> Personally, I was concerned that store.php uses cleartext passwords in 
>> it's configuration file. So, I changed my copy to use a hash of the 
>> password (for the technical minded, I used the hash format for Apache 
>> Digest Authentication).
>>
>> Store.php has settings to override the tiddlywiki configured filename and 
>> backup directory, I used those to prevent someone from uploading arbitrary 
>> files.
>>
>> There is still an issue of brute force password guessing that I haven't 
>> decided how I want to resolve yet.
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 4:16:48 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It does concern me, though, the level of insecurity of the store.php 
>>> approach. So I will still eventually experiment more with Noteself. But to 
>>> be honest I do need the ability to link between files and permalink to 
>>> share with others.
>>> ... 
>>>
>> Dave
>>>
>>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/OCUp73Bads0/unsubscribe.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/15a32c0d-1bc9-4a0a-8dc4-1f0ba849f031%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> David Gifford
> Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a3f22134-533b-4254-b607-64eb08201c9c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[David Gifford]

Hi lost admin

My concern is the one contained in
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot, since the store.php is the
same process as Tiddlyspot.

Dave

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Lost Admin  wrote:

> When you say the insecurity of the store.php approach worries you, what
> exactly are you worried about?
>
> I agree there are security issues with store.php but I have seen far worse
> issues in commercial applications.
>
> Personally, I was concerned that store.php uses cleartext passwords in
> it's configuration file. So, I changed my copy to use a hash of the
> password (for the technical minded, I used the hash format for Apache
> Digest Authentication).
>
> Store.php has settings to override the tiddlywiki configured filename and
> backup directory, I used those to prevent someone from uploading arbitrary
> files.
>
> There is still an issue of brute force password guessing that I haven't
> decided how I want to resolve yet.
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 4:16:48 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>
>> It does concern me, though, the level of insecurity of the store.php
>> approach. So I will still eventually experiment more with Noteself. But to
>> be honest I do need the ability to link between files and permalink to
>> share with others.
>> ...
>>
> Dave
>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> topic/tiddlywiki/OCUp73Bads0/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> msgid/tiddlywiki/15a32c0d-1bc9-4a0a-8dc4-1f0ba849f031%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
David Gifford
Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CANE%3DBFKQ4_UZQ7GdfvrzYRGkjfd4KzdWpOx_BmUttLu4zQuc-Q%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[Lost Admin]

When you say the insecurity of the store.php approach worries you, what 
exactly are you worried about?

I agree there are security issues with store.php but I have seen far worse 
issues in commercial applications.

Personally, I was concerned that store.php uses cleartext passwords in it's 
configuration file. So, I changed my copy to use a hash of the password 
(for the technical minded, I used the hash format for Apache Digest 
Authentication).

Store.php has settings to override the tiddlywiki configured filename and 
backup directory, I used those to prevent someone from uploading arbitrary 
files.

There is still an issue of brute force password guessing that I haven't 
decided how I want to resolve yet.

On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 4:16:48 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>
>
> It does concern me, though, the level of insecurity of the store.php 
> approach. So I will still eventually experiment more with Noteself. But to 
> be honest I do need the ability to link between files and permalink to 
> share with others.
> ... 
>
Dave
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/15a32c0d-1bc9-4a0a-8dc4-1f0ba849f031%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[David Gifford]

Thanks Danielo, that is a big help. That is the level of hand-holding I
needed.

I feel bad now, though, because I DID get my standalones loaded on my own
site with the Bidix store.php, and since Saturday have been adding notes to
them. But I forgot to come here and let people know I figured it out. So
this thread is 'completed' for me.

It does concern me, though, the level of insecurity of the store.php
approach. So I will still eventually experiment more with Noteself. But to
be honest I do need the ability to link between files and permalink to
share with others.

Github's approach doesn't sound like it would allow me to edit with the
edittoolbar available, which I use extensively. So I probably am better off
not investigating that idea any further.

Thanks again for your helpful explanations!

Dave

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Danielo Rodríguez 
wrote:

>
> Hello Dave,
>
> Let's see if I can help you with this topic
>
>
> Noteself looks promising, I think, but is confusing to me:
>>
>
> Sad to hear that. Let's work on it
>
>
>> 1) it says I can save multiple TWs but since the url is always the same,
>> it is not clear how to move from one to the other,
>>
>
> Yes, you can have multiple TWs. Each wiki is stored on a separate database
> so they do not interfere each other.  Which wiki is stored on which
> database is configured through the control panel.
>
>
>> and whether saving a new one will also include there all the tiddlers
>> saved to date in the current one.
>>
>
> You have to manually switch fro one wiki to another and reload the page.
> Currently there is no way to communicate wikis.
>
>
>> 2) It looks like the only way to sync between devices is to already have
>> a couch database.
>>
>
> Yes. There is no web mechanism ATM to communicate a browser peer to peer.
>
>
>> I assume this means I need to do a whole learning curve re Couch
>> databases to create one. I wouldn't even know where to begin with that.
>>
>
> I promise that you don't need to. It's a very straightforward process. It
> takes less than two minutes. Take a look at this video:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc5lNND8dZE
>
>
>> 3) Since the noteself url is always the same, it isn't clear how I would
>> share a tiddler's permalink with others.
>>
>
> Currently it is not possible. I'm working on it.
>
>
>
>> But is there a plugin for setting up online use that I could use to edit
>> and save changes to them when out and about working from my ipad? Some way
>> to host it online but where if I have the username and password, I can edit
>> it? I recall Udo had something that worked like that for TW classic.
>>
>
>
> Github + gh-pages is a very good place to store wikis due to the nature of
> tiddlywiki. You can have a wiki stored on Github, where each tiddler is
> saved as a standalone file. You can then configure and an automatic process
> for rebuilding and updating your wiki on every file change. I have created
> a template for this. Take a look at this:
>
> https://github.com/danielo515/TW5-auto-publish2gh-pages
>
> There is a drawback to this approach: If you want to edit the tiddlers
> online you have to use GitHub's interface and edit tiddlers like they were
> plain text files. In some scenarios this may be overkill.
> I have also created an small web-app to fix this situation, but it is
> currently on BETA. It has a bug that prevents the creation of new tiddlers
> (I'm working on it) but it should allow you to edit existing ones and save
> them back to github. Take a look and let me know what do you think about it:
>
> https://octowiki.github.io/
>
> Hope this helps a bit.
> Regards!
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> topic/tiddlywiki/OCUp73Bads0/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> msgid/tiddlywiki/bf3529ca-f01b-4dea-83ba-984a87747ae6%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
David Gifford
Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Dave,

Let's see if I can help you with this topic
 

Noteself looks promising, I think, but is confusing to me:
>

Sad to hear that. Let's work on it
 

> 1) it says I can save multiple TWs but since the url is always the same, 
> it is not clear how to move from one to the other,
>

Yes, you can have multiple TWs. Each wiki is stored on a separate database 
so they do not interfere each other.  Which wiki is stored on which 
database is configured through the control panel. 
 

> and whether saving a new one will also include there all the tiddlers 
> saved to date in the current one. 
>

You have to manually switch fro one wiki to another and reload the page. 
Currently there is no way to communicate wikis.
 

> 2) It looks like the only way to sync between devices is to already have a 
> couch database.
>

Yes. There is no web mechanism ATM to communicate a browser peer to peer.
 

> I assume this means I need to do a whole learning curve re Couch databases 
> to create one. I wouldn't even know where to begin with that. 
>

I promise that you don't need to. It's a very straightforward process. It 
takes less than two minutes. Take a look at this video: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc5lNND8dZE
 

> 3) Since the noteself url is always the same, it isn't clear how I would 
> share a tiddler's permalink with others.
>

Currently it is not possible. I'm working on it.

 

> But is there a plugin for setting up online use that I could use to edit 
> and save changes to them when out and about working from my ipad? Some way 
> to host it online but where if I have the username and password, I can edit 
> it? I recall Udo had something that worked like that for TW classic.
>


Github + gh-pages is a very good place to store wikis due to the nature of 
tiddlywiki. You can have a wiki stored on Github, where each tiddler is 
saved as a standalone file. You can then configure and an automatic process 
for rebuilding and updating your wiki on every file change. I have created 
a template for this. Take a look at this:

https://github.com/danielo515/TW5-auto-publish2gh-pages

There is a drawback to this approach: If you want to edit the tiddlers 
online you have to use GitHub's interface and edit tiddlers like they were 
plain text files. In some scenarios this may be overkill. 
I have also created an small web-app to fix this situation, but it is 
currently on BETA. It has a bug that prevents the creation of new tiddlers 
(I'm working on it) but it should allow you to edit existing ones and save 
them back to github. Take a look and let me know what do you think about it:

https://octowiki.github.io/

Hope this helps a bit.
Regards!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bf3529ca-f01b-4dea-83ba-984a87747ae6%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Dave,

store.php is just a piece of code written in PHP that allows TW to save to 
a file server. I think it's the basis for whatever is used at tiddlyspot. 
You just have to configure it with passwords and a couple settings (I had 
to increase the maximum allowable file size, I think). There's no database 
involved though maybe a few head-bangs when initially setting up. 

Good luck!
Mark



On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 10:41:34 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Any stuff I want kept private I keep on my local files and backup in 
> OneDrive.
>
> By secure I just mean 'secure from getting hacked.' TiddlySpot doesn't 
> seem secure in that sense. Even on my site, Wordpress got hacked, and 
> people were telling me that links to my files were showing viagra and 
> cyalis ads. I just want to avoid that kind of thing.
>
> When you write 'running store.php' it sounds like databases, that sounds 
> complicated and I mentioned I am unfamiliar with. But I will look into it.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:44 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> When you say "secure", do you mean that you have information that you 
>> want to be hidden, or just that you don't want your page to be hacked ?
>>
>> If you have your own server then you probably also have .htaccess 
>> security. You may also have PHP and the ability to run store.php. You can 
>> lock down a folder with
>> .htaccess to prevent people from seeing it unless you give them the 
>> username and password. They won't be able to write to your TW, because 
>> that's a different password. 
>>
>> I don't know if I'd trust any ad-hoc solution for information that 
>> actually needs to stay private. Maybe dropbox. Or use a tool like syncthing 
>> to keep your copies in sync on local devices. Unfortunately, syncthing 
>> doesn't have an ipad app, but I'm guessing that someone in the I-sphere has 
>> made one.  
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-7, Dave Gifford - 
>> http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just trying to understand my options for hosting TiddlyWiki 5's online. 
>>> I would like to save
>>>
>>> a) 10-15 tiddlywikis
>>> b) that I can open and edit and save changes via my Windows laptop or my 
>>> ipad and have the changes visible to either device
>>> c) that is secure
>>> d) without having to learn about databases
>>> e) preferably, though not necessarily, the ability to permalink tiddlers 
>>> and share them (view only, not edit)
>>>
>>> It looks as thought Tiddlyspot is not very secure, but otherwise meets 
>>> the other criteria. So I think I want to pass on that option.
>>>
>>> Noteself looks promising, I think, but is confusing to me: 1) it says I 
>>> can save multiple TWs but since the url is always the same, it is not clear 
>>> how to move from one to the other, and whether saving a new one will also 
>>> include there all the tiddlers saved to date in the current one. 2) It 
>>> looks like the only way to sync between devices is to already have a couch 
>>> database. I assume this means I need to do a whole learning curve re Couch 
>>> databases to create one. I wouldn't even know where to begin with that. 3) 
>>> Since the noteself url is always the same, it isn't clear how I would share 
>>> a tiddler's permalink with others.
>>>
>>> I have my own website and could store TiddlyWikis there, and often do. 
>>> But is there a plugin for setting up online use that I could use to edit 
>>> and save changes to them when out and about working from my ipad? Some way 
>>> to host it online but where if I have the username and password, I can edit 
>>> it? I recall Udo had something that worked like that for TW classic.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/OCUp73Bads0/unsubscribe.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>> tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1b033412-0108-4af7-962b-00992c91ce0a%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> David Gifford
> Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to 

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

[David Gifford]

Hi Mark

Any stuff I want kept private I keep on my local files and backup in
OneDrive.

By secure I just mean 'secure from getting hacked.' TiddlySpot doesn't seem
secure in that sense. Even on my site, Wordpress got hacked, and people
were telling me that links to my files were showing viagra and cyalis ads.
I just want to avoid that kind of thing.

When you write 'running store.php' it sounds like databases, that sounds
complicated and I mentioned I am unfamiliar with. But I will look into it.

Dave





On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:44 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> When you say "secure", do you mean that you have information that you want
> to be hidden, or just that you don't want your page to be hacked ?
>
> If you have your own server then you probably also have .htaccess
> security. You may also have PHP and the ability to run store.php. You can
> lock down a folder with
> .htaccess to prevent people from seeing it unless you give them the
> username and password. They won't be able to write to your TW, because
> that's a different password.
>
> I don't know if I'd trust any ad-hoc solution for information that
> actually needs to stay private. Maybe dropbox. Or use a tool like syncthing
> to keep your copies in sync on local devices. Unfortunately, syncthing
> doesn't have an ipad app, but I'm guessing that someone in the I-sphere has
> made one.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-7, Dave Gifford -
> http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just trying to understand my options for hosting TiddlyWiki 5's online. I
>> would like to save
>>
>> a) 10-15 tiddlywikis
>> b) that I can open and edit and save changes via my Windows laptop or my
>> ipad and have the changes visible to either device
>> c) that is secure
>> d) without having to learn about databases
>> e) preferably, though not necessarily, the ability to permalink tiddlers
>> and share them (view only, not edit)
>>
>> It looks as thought Tiddlyspot is not very secure, but otherwise meets
>> the other criteria. So I think I want to pass on that option.
>>
>> Noteself looks promising, I think, but is confusing to me: 1) it says I
>> can save multiple TWs but since the url is always the same, it is not clear
>> how to move from one to the other, and whether saving a new one will also
>> include there all the tiddlers saved to date in the current one. 2) It
>> looks like the only way to sync between devices is to already have a couch
>> database. I assume this means I need to do a whole learning curve re Couch
>> databases to create one. I wouldn't even know where to begin with that. 3)
>> Since the noteself url is always the same, it isn't clear how I would share
>> a tiddler's permalink with others.
>>
>> I have my own website and could store TiddlyWikis there, and often do.
>> But is there a plugin for setting up online use that I could use to edit
>> and save changes to them when out and about working from my ipad? Some way
>> to host it online but where if I have the username and password, I can edit
>> it? I recall Udo had something that worked like that for TW classic.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Dave
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> topic/tiddlywiki/OCUp73Bads0/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> msgid/tiddlywiki/1b033412-0108-4af7-962b-00992c91ce0a%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
David Gifford
Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CANE%3DBFJMN37YXbkXOUR1%3DzcZ2Sowt3kw8No2_UXxN_HnqZBw4Q%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWikis online?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

When you say "secure", do you mean that you have information that you want 
to be hidden, or just that you don't want your page to be hacked ?

If you have your own server then you probably also have .htaccess security. 
You may also have PHP and the ability to run store.php. You can lock down a 
folder with
.htaccess to prevent people from seeing it unless you give them the 
username and password. They won't be able to write to your TW, because 
that's a different password. 

I don't know if I'd trust any ad-hoc solution for information that actually 
needs to stay private. Maybe dropbox. Or use a tool like syncthing to keep 
your copies in sync on local devices. Unfortunately, syncthing doesn't have 
an ipad app, but I'm guessing that someone in the I-sphere has made one.  

Good luck,
Mark

On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-7, Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just trying to understand my options for hosting TiddlyWiki 5's online. I 
> would like to save
>
> a) 10-15 tiddlywikis
> b) that I can open and edit and save changes via my Windows laptop or my 
> ipad and have the changes visible to either device
> c) that is secure
> d) without having to learn about databases
> e) preferably, though not necessarily, the ability to permalink tiddlers 
> and share them (view only, not edit)
>
> It looks as thought Tiddlyspot is not very secure, but otherwise meets the 
> other criteria. So I think I want to pass on that option.
>
> Noteself looks promising, I think, but is confusing to me: 1) it says I 
> can save multiple TWs but since the url is always the same, it is not clear 
> how to move from one to the other, and whether saving a new one will also 
> include there all the tiddlers saved to date in the current one. 2) It 
> looks like the only way to sync between devices is to already have a couch 
> database. I assume this means I need to do a whole learning curve re Couch 
> databases to create one. I wouldn't even know where to begin with that. 3) 
> Since the noteself url is always the same, it isn't clear how I would share 
> a tiddler's permalink with others.
>
> I have my own website and could store TiddlyWikis there, and often do. But 
> is there a plugin for setting up online use that I could use to edit and 
> save changes to them when out and about working from my ipad? Some way to 
> host it online but where if I have the username and password, I can edit 
> it? I recall Udo had something that worked like that for TW classic.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Dave
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1b033412-0108-4af7-962b-00992c91ce0a%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving from tiddlyspot to local fs in android

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Carlos

You can insert the following snippet in any tiddler to create a “download” 
button that downloads the entire wiki locally:

{{$:/snippets/download-wiki-button}}

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 14 Jul 2016, at 05:18, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't know if this would work (I've only tried part of the process) but it 
> seems to me that you could turn off the save-to-tiddlyspot configuration. 
> Then the "save" button will save to the local (android) file wherever your 
> system puts downloads. Then, after you've worked locally, re-instate the 
> settings and save again. Might be worth a try.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 8:06:13 PM UTC-7, Carlos Pita wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm new to tw and I'm having some hard time trying to figure out how to do 
> the following:
> 
> 1. I've download an empty tw5 to my local fs in an android device.
> 2. I've saved this tw to tiddlyspot.
> 3. Once in tiddlyspot I've configured the tw to save to the server, which it 
> does fine.
> 4. Now I would like to work offline for some hours so I want to download a 
> copy, edit it and finally upload it to tiddlyspot.
> 5. The problem is: there is no download button, save now means save to 
> tiddlyspot (I guess I could delete the user/pass in the panel control to 
> force local saving). Chrome in android doesn't offer a save-as function 
> AFAICS.
> 
> Is there a workaround? Should I use ff?
> 
> Thank you in advance
> --
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "TiddlyWiki" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5f646ea3-7a3e-4a8d-965f-71e0ebc9662a%40googlegroups.com
>  
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/B2EB3BEB-5E4F-4634-9BDD-B9EE5F29826B%40gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving from tiddlyspot to local fs in android

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I don't know if this would work (I've only tried part of the process) but 
it seems to me that you could turn off the save-to-tiddlyspot 
configuration. Then the "save" button will save to the local (android) file 
wherever your system puts downloads. Then, after you've worked locally, 
re-instate the settings and save again. Might be worth a try.

Mark

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 8:06:13 PM UTC-7, Carlos Pita wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to tw and I'm having some hard time trying to figure out how to do 
> the following:
>
> 1. I've download an empty tw5 to my local fs in an android device.
> 2. I've saved this tw to tiddlyspot.
> 3. Once in tiddlyspot I've configured the tw to save to the server, which 
> it does fine.
> 4. Now I would like to work offline for some hours so I want to download a 
> copy, edit it and finally upload it to tiddlyspot.
> 5. The problem is: there is no download button, save now means save to 
> tiddlyspot (I guess I could delete the user/pass in the panel control to 
> force local saving). Chrome in android doesn't offer a save-as function 
> AFAICS.
>
> Is there a workaround? Should I use ff?
>
> Thank you in advance
> --
> Carlos
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5f646ea3-7a3e-4a8d-965f-71e0ebc9662a%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Alex S. Garcia]

On Friday, January 15, 2016 08:42:59 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
> Are you using tiddlyfox?

Nope.

> If not, how are you saving?

Just the 'normal' way, ie. clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in the 
sidepanel, 
while the file is loaded from /var/www/html.

> If you launch your browser as root, then can you save?

Ah, good question. Hadn't tried that. Just did now. And, interestingly enough, 
it does 
NOT work as root either. I get the same error as with my user, ie:

"It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
- your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and 
Opera all 
work if properly configured)
- the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
- the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed"

> I'm guessing that your plugin can't/won't navigate those directories
> owned by root.

But I'm *not* using a plugin in this specific case, only TW's internal 
functionality to 
'save changes'.

OTOH, I *do* use a plugin when I work remotely, and THAT works just fine!? 
Weird, isn't 
it? The plugin can get access but not the file itself...

What user would the system see trying to save the file locally? Would it be 
coming 
from my user, from apache, or something else? Makes me wonder.

And what about the plugin, for that matter, shouldn't my computer see it coming 
from 
the same user?? If so, saving should not be possible via the plugin either... 
unless it's 
not a permissions issue, but then what? *baffled*

> As a workaround, can you edit on your server as
> http://localhost...tw.html ?

Well, yes, it would then just use that TW plugin in that case and I'd have to 
click "save 
to web". Saving from my laptop while connecting remotely also works fine for 
the 
same reason, since it would also be using the plugin.

It just puzzles me to no end that I can't do a normal local save... that just 
doesn't 
sound right :-o



Alex.
-- 
-
http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
-

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/23437339.slNoJDG4op%40localhost.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Are you using tiddlyfox? If not, how are you saving?

If you launch your browser as root, then can you save?

I'm guessing that your plugin can't/won't navigate those directories owned 
by root. 

As a workaround, can you edit on your server as http://localhost...tw.html ?

Mark

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:26:52 PM UTC-8, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> I recently had to upgrade my entire system and now I can no longer save 
> changes when I edit a tiddly file.
>
>  
>
> It's very odd, because I installed a plugin that allows me to work on my 
> files remotely, and when using that I can save data just fine. But doing it 
> from localhost fails with the following message:
>
>  
>
> 
>
> It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
>
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>
> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
>
> - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed
>
> 
>
>  
>
> I've tried with different browsers (Firefox, Vivaldi and Opera) but they 
> all return that same error.
>
>  
>
> And it's not the pathname (besides, it's the same as before, and it worked 
> fine in the past).
>
>  
>
> And I haven't moved any of the files around, so it's not that third thing 
> either.
>
>  
>
> I'm suspecting perhaps a permission issue, but I've tried everything I 
> could think of to no avail.
>
>  
>
> My tiddly folder is owned by my user (likewise for the group) and the 
> permissions are set to drwxrwxr-x.
>
>  
>
> The contents of that folder are also owned by my user, with permissions 
> set to -rwxrwxr-x.
>
>  
>
> /var/www & /var/www/html are both owned by root:root (drwxr-xr-x).
>
>  
>
> What am I missing here?
>
>  
>
> On a side note, I made apache a member of my user's group so that it could 
> have access.
>
>  
>
> Any thoughts/leads would be appreciated!
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
> -- 
>
> -
>
> http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
>
> http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
>
> Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
>
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
>
> -
>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d18989c8-d5f3-45d2-a124-ade453478fd1%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Alex S. Garcia]

> > - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer,
> > Safari and Opera all work if properly configured)
> 
> Note the phrase "if properly configured".  All major browsers have
> blocked javascript from performing direct file I/O with the local
> filesystem. TiddlyFox is a browser plugin for Firefox that restores
> access to the privileged file I/O functions.  If you are using Firefox
> without TiddlyFox, then it is *not* "properly configured" for file
> saving.  Install the TiddlyFox browser plugin, and try again.

Wow. That worked. Awesome.

Weird, though, as I'd never had to use TiddyFox before and had never ran into 
this 
problem. Then again, truth be told, I was using some really old versions of 
everything, 
so perhaps this security feature had not been implemented yet...

In any case, thank you all for your help! Much appreciated.



Alex.
-- 
-
http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
-

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/29072895.nnU57PiyjV%40localhost.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Eric Shulman]

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:28:54 AM UTC-8, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 08:42:59 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
>
> > Are you using tiddlyfox?
>
> Nope.
>
>  
>
> > If not, how are you saving?
>
> Just the 'normal' way, ie. clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in 
> the sidepanel, while the file is loaded from /var/www/html.
>
>  
>
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>

Note the phrase "if properly configured".  All major browsers have blocked 
javascript from performing direct file I/O with the local filesystem. 
 TiddlyFox is a browser plugin for Firefox that restores access to the 
privileged file I/O functions.  If you are using Firefox without TiddlyFox, 
then it is *not* "properly configured" for file saving.  Install the 
TiddlyFox browser plugin, and try again.

enjoy,
-e

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9785cc2b-fb90-4d9f-ac0e-24fdc1c4f51f%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Doesn't the "normal" way force you to pick a path and save every time? Your 
firefox path has to be read/writeable. If you restored your old FF 
profiles, it might be pointing to a directory that you can't currently 
write to. What is your default download path in FF? If it's not under 
/var... then you have to set it.

Why not try tiddlyfox and see what happens?

Still guessing, but I think when the browser runs it runs with reduced 
rights as a security measure (even if you launch as root).  

After launching with sudo, and using ps aux, I see that my firefox is still 
running as my base user. There's probably a more scientific way to force FF 
to use root's rights.
 
Mark

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:28:54 AM UTC-8, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 08:42:59 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
>
> > Are you using tiddlyfox?
>
>  
>
> Nope.
>
>  
>
> > If not, how are you saving?
>
>  
>
> Just the 'normal' way, ie. clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in 
> the sidepanel, while the file is loaded from /var/www/html.
>
>  
>
> > If you launch your browser as root, then can you save?
>
>  
>
> Ah, good question. Hadn't tried that. Just did now. And, interestingly 
> enough, it does NOT work as root either. I get the same error as with my 
> user, ie:
>
>  
>
> "It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
>
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>
> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
>
> - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed"
>
>  
>
> > I'm guessing that your plugin can't/won't navigate those directories
>
> > owned by root.
>
>  
>
> But I'm *not* using a plugin in this specific case, only TW's internal 
> functionality to 'save changes'.
>
>  
>
> OTOH, I *do* use a plugin when I work remotely, and THAT works just fine!? 
> Weird, isn't it? The plugin can get access but not the file itself...
>
>  
>
> What user would the system see trying to save the file locally? Would it 
> be coming from my user, from apache, or something else? Makes me wonder.
>
>  
>
> And what about the plugin, for that matter, shouldn't my computer see it 
> coming from the same user?? If so, saving should not be possible via the 
> plugin either... unless it's not a permissions issue, but then what? 
> *baffled*
>
>  
>
> > As a workaround, can you edit on your server as
>
> > http://localhost...tw.html ?
>
>  
>
> Well, yes, it would then just use that TW plugin in that case and I'd have 
> to click "save to web". Saving from my laptop while connecting remotely 
> also works fine for the same reason, since it would also be using the 
> plugin.
>
>  
>
> It just puzzles me to no end that I can't do a normal local save... that 
> just doesn't sound right :-o
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
> -- 
>
> -
>
> http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
>
> http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
>
> Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
>
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
>
> -
>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7b158ce1-6f7f-41ee-a8dc-c6fb2427b705%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Okay, that was interesting. Well done Eric for coming up with the solution 
which helped Alex. I'm confused by the answer though, as I use TiddlyWiki 
to save locally from Firefox under Linux myself, and have never had such a 
permissions problem before, and I don't use, nor need, the TiddlyFox plugin.

I'm wondering if this is a TWC issue and it doesn't affect TW5? I noticed 
that Alex kept mentioning *"clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools' in 
the sidepanel"* (emphasis mine), which I assume indicates that Alex is 
using TWC, not TW5, am I right?

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 07:21:53 UTC+13, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> > > - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer,
>
> > > Safari and Opera all work if properly configured)
>
> > 
>
> > Note the phrase "if properly configured". All major browsers have
>
> > blocked javascript from performing direct file I/O with the local
>
> > filesystem. TiddlyFox is a browser plugin for Firefox that restores
>
> > access to the privileged file I/O functions. If you are using Firefox
>
> > without TiddlyFox, then it is *not* "properly configured" for file
>
> > saving. Install the TiddlyFox browser plugin, and try again.
>
>  
>
> Wow. That worked. Awesome.
>
>  
>
> Weird, though, as I'd never had to use TiddyFox before and had never ran 
> into this problem. Then again, truth be told, I was using some really old 
> versions of everything, so perhaps this security feature had not been 
> implemented yet...
>
>  
>
> In any case, thank you all for your help! Much appreciated.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
> -- 
>
> -
>
> http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
>
> http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
>
> Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
>
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
>
> -
>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e58cf550-4fa1-49da-847c-9abce660daeb%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Alex S. Garcia]

On Friday, January 15, 2016 13:24:53 Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
> Okay, that was interesting. Well done Eric for coming up with the
> solution which helped Alex. I'm confused by the answer though, as I use
> TiddlyWiki to save locally from Firefox under Linux myself, and have
> never had such a permissions problem before, and I don't use, nor need,
> the TiddlyFox plugin.
> 
> I'm wondering if this is a TWC issue and it doesn't affect TW5? I noticed
> that Alex kept mentioning *"clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools'
> in the sidepanel"* (emphasis mine), which I assume indicates that Alex
> is using TWC, not TW5, am I right?

Actually, I use TWW, a modified version of the original TiddlyWiki. The 
"AboutTWW" 
tiddler states this:

"Tiddlywiki Write (updated 11-22-10) is an implementation of the Tiddlywiki 
concept 
(version 2.6.1) and is an experiment in mind mapping for writers."

Definitely not TW5, in any case.



Alex.
-- 
-
http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
-

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2079023.H1FXkh6nD1%40localhost.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Ah, that makes sense, thanks for clarifying that Alex.

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 10:31:01 UTC+13, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 13:24:53 Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> > Okay, that was interesting. Well done Eric for coming up with the
>
> > solution which helped Alex. I'm confused by the answer though, as I use
>
> > TiddlyWiki to save locally from Firefox under Linux myself, and have
>
> > never had such a permissions problem before, and I don't use, nor need,
>
> > the TiddlyFox plugin.
>
> > 
>
> > I'm wondering if this is a TWC issue and it doesn't affect TW5? I noticed
>
> > that Alex kept mentioning *"clicking 'save changes' under 'admin tools'
>
> > in the sidepanel"* (emphasis mine), which I assume indicates that Alex
>
> > is using TWC, not TW5, am I right?
>
>  
>
> Actually, I use TWW, a modified version of the original TiddlyWiki. The 
> "AboutTWW" tiddler states this:
>
>  
>
> "Tiddlywiki Write (updated 11-22-10) is an implementation of the 
> Tiddlywiki concept (version 2.6.1) and is an experiment in mind mapping for 
> writers."
>
>  
>
> Definitely not TW5, in any case.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
> -- 
>
> -
>
> http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
>
> http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
>
> Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
>
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
>
> -
>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/95024efc-130c-472f-9c02-acea393b8fe9%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Alex S. Garcia]

First off, I just realized I made a small mistake in my description. I said I 
couldn't save 
from localhost. That's somewhat misleading. When I'm at home, I load the page 
directly from the hard drive, ie. 

file:///var/www/html/tiddly/filename.html

This has always worked in the past.

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 17:17:43 Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
> Hi Alex, can you save the file directly to your /var/www/html folder? Or to
> the relevant subdirectory under that? Doing so would isolate out any
> potential Apache issues. Just a thought for diagnosis, not a real solution.

Well, if I'm on the page using the URL I mentioned above, and use my browser's 
"Save 
page as..." command in the "File" menu, then ask to save it under a new name in 
the 
same spot (ie. /var/www/html/tiddly), then yes, that does work.

I'm assuming that's what you meant?



Alex.
-- 
-
http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
-

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1549365.HobzNoqMVk%40localhost.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Hi Alex, yeah, you also mentioned Apache, so I assumed that you are hosting 
and serving your TiddlyWiki from Apache locally on the same machine you use 
to browse it from. I do that sometimes for testing purposes, and find that 
accessing /var/www/html directly is a good way to diagnose Apache problems. 
If you're not even using Apache to serve your TiddlyWiki, is there any 
advantage to storing it in the /var/www/html directory? Why not just save 
it and browser to it from a subdirectory of your home folder?

Also, using the browser's save functionality is not recommend when using 
TW. It is best to use "Save Changes" in the TW sidebar (the red tick icon). 
You can then select a folder to save it to. Try saving it directly to 
/var/ww/html/tiddly/ if that is where you browse it from.

On Friday, 15 January 2016 14:54:28 UTC+13, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> First off, I just realized I made a small mistake in my description. I 
> said I couldn't save from localhost. That's somewhat misleading. When I'm 
> at home, I load the page directly from the hard drive, ie. 
>
>  
>
> file:///var/www/html/tiddly/filename.html
>
>  
>
> This has always worked in the past.
>
>  
>
> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 17:17:43 Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> > Hi Alex, can you save the file directly to your /var/www/html folder? Or 
> to
>
> > the relevant subdirectory under that? Doing so would isolate out any
>
> > potential Apache issues. Just a thought for diagnosis, not a real 
> solution.
>
>  
>
> Well, if I'm on the page using the URL I mentioned above, and use my 
> browser's "Save page as..." command in the "File" menu, then ask to save it 
> under a new name in the same spot (ie. /var/www/html/tiddly), then yes, 
> that does work.
>
>  
>
> I'm assuming that's what you meant?
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
> -- 
>
> -
>
> http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
>
> http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
>
> Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
>
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
>
> -
>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/84bd19cf-028f-4775-97a7-6d29b75cf058%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Hi Alex, can you save the file directly to your /var/www/html folder? Or to 
the relevant subdirectory under that? Doing so would isolate out any 
potential Apache issues. Just a thought for diagnosis, not a real solution.

On Friday, 15 January 2016 11:26:52 UTC+13, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> I recently had to upgrade my entire system and now I can no longer save 
> changes when I edit a tiddly file.
>
>  
>
> It's very odd, because I installed a plugin that allows me to work on my 
> files remotely, and when using that I can save data just fine. But doing it 
> from localhost fails with the following message:
>
>  
>
> 
>
> It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
>
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>
> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
>
> - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed
>
> 
>
>  
>
> I've tried with different browsers (Firefox, Vivaldi and Opera) but they 
> all return that same error.
>
>  
>
> And it's not the pathname (besides, it's the same as before, and it worked 
> fine in the past).
>
>  
>
> And I haven't moved any of the files around, so it's not that third thing 
> either.
>
>  
>
> I'm suspecting perhaps a permission issue, but I've tried everything I 
> could think of to no avail.
>
>  
>
> My tiddly folder is owned by my user (likewise for the group) and the 
> permissions are set to drwxrwxr-x.
>
>  
>
> The contents of that folder are also owned by my user, with permissions 
> set to -rwxrwxr-x.
>
>  
>
> /var/www & /var/www/html are both owned by root:root (drwxr-xr-x).
>
>  
>
> What am I missing here?
>
>  
>
> On a side note, I made apache a member of my user's group so that it could 
> have access.
>
>  
>
> Any thoughts/leads would be appreciated!
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
> -- 
>
> -
>
> http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
>
> http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
>
> Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
>
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
>
> -
>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0465a18b-419f-4f6b-b0e2-ef48461e37a2%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Alex S. Garcia]

OK, I think there is some confusion, so I'm going to try to clarify things a 
bit ;-)

> you also mentioned Apache, so I assumed
> that you are hosting and serving your TiddlyWiki from
> Apache locally on the same machine you use to browse it
> from. I do that sometimes for testing purposes, and find
> that accessing /var/www/html directly is a good way to
> diagnose Apache problems. 

This is actually how I typically work when I'm at home. I just load the file 
from 
/var/www/html into my browser directly.

> If you're not even using Apache
> to serve your TiddlyWiki, is there any advantage to
> storing it in the /var/www/html directory? Why not just
> save it and browser to it from a subdirectory of your
> home folder?

Well, I do need to be able to access it when I'm travelling (or at work), so I 
can work on 
my stuff from anywhere I am, that was the whole point for me of setting up 
tiddly's in 
the first place.

So, to sum it up: when at home I use /var/www/html.

When I'm not home, I connect remotely via my webserver.

> Also, using the browser's save functionality is not
> recommend when using TW. It is best to use "Save Changes"
> in the TW sidebar (the red tick icon). 

Yes. That's what I normally do. I only used the browser's save functionality 
because I 
thought that was the test you wanted me to do in your previous message. I must 
have 
misunderstood you ;-)

Normally I do this:

When at home, I click on "Save changes" under "Admin tools" in the side bar.

When I'm not home, I use the plugin which adds a "Save to web" option to the 
sidebar.

The latter currently works, while the former is the one that is now broken, for 
some 
reason.

Hope that clarified things a bit.



Alex.
-- 
-
http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
-

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8165773.P4t3WICNqP%40localhost.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Sorry for the confusion there. I see what you're getting at now. To prove 
it out to a permissions problem with your /var/www/html folder or 
subfolders, have you tried saving the download (when browsed from the local 
machine, not via Apache, as we can conclude the problem isn't there) 
temporarily to your home folder, as a test download?

On Friday, 15 January 2016 16:49:04 UTC+13, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> OK, I think there is some confusion, so I'm going to try to clarify things 
> a bit ;-)
>
>  
>
> > you also mentioned Apache, so I assumed
>
> > that you are hosting and serving your TiddlyWiki from
>
> > Apache locally on the same machine you use to browse it
>
> > from. I do that sometimes for testing purposes, and find
>
> > that accessing /var/www/html directly is a good way to
>
> > diagnose Apache problems. 
>
>  
>
> This is actually how I typically work when I'm at home. I just load the 
> file from /var/www/html into my browser directly.
>
>  
>
> > If you're not even using Apache
>
> > to serve your TiddlyWiki, is there any advantage to
>
> > storing it in the /var/www/html directory? Why not just
>
> > save it and browser to it from a subdirectory of your
>
> > home folder?
>
>  
>
> Well, I do need to be able to access it when I'm travelling (or at work), 
> so I can work on my stuff from anywhere I am, that was the whole point for 
> me of setting up tiddly's in the first place.
>
>  
>
> So, to sum it up: when at home I use /var/www/html.
>
>  
>
> When I'm not home, I connect remotely via my webserver.
>
>  
>
> > Also, using the browser's save functionality is not
>
> > recommend when using TW. It is best to use "Save Changes"
>
> > in the TW sidebar (the red tick icon). 
>
>  
>
> Yes. That's what I normally do. I only used the browser's save 
> functionality because I thought that was the test you wanted me to do in 
> your previous message. I must have misunderstood you ;-)
>
>  
>
> Normally I do this:
>
>  
>
> When at home, I click on "Save changes" under "Admin tools" in the side 
> bar.
>
>  
>
> When I'm not home, I use the plugin which adds a "Save to web" option to 
> the sidebar.
>
>  
>
> The latter currently works, while the former is the one that is now 
> broken, for some reason.
>
>  
>
> Hope that clarified things a bit.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Alex.
>
> -- 
>
> -
>
> http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
>
> http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
>
> Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
>
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
>
> -
>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/21532f14-ce7b-47c3-aa5e-88c932401121%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving TW files locally fails on a linux box

[Alex S. Garcia]

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 20:41:24 Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
> Sorry for the confusion there. I see what you're getting
> at now. To prove it out to a permissions problem with
> your /var/www/html folder or subfolders, have you tried
> saving the download (when browsed from the local machine,
> not via Apache, as we can conclude the problem isn't
> there) temporarily to your home folder, as a test
> download?

If I use the browser's saving functionality? Yes, that does work if I use that 
to 
save/download the file to my home folder.



Alex.
-- 
-
http://www.alexsgarcia.com/
http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics
Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database]
http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list]
-

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1618068.TyneBoLXXk%40localhost.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving a TiddlyWiki uploaded to personal webhost.

[Joshua Galan]

Thanks Eric!

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 10:23:18 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:16:00 PM UTC-8, Joshua Galan wrote:
>>
>> TiddlyWiki novice here. I am using a Google Chrome browser and have 
>> uploaded a relatively new TiddlyWiki index.html file onto a personal web 
>> host of mine. Whenever I click on the "save changes" icon, it prompts me to 
>> save the index.html file onto my computer. This is extremely inconvenient 
>> as it would require me to re-upload the most current index.html file *every 
>> single* time I make a modification that is saved.
>> Is there anyway to have changes saved directly to the index.html on my 
>> server? 
>>
>
> If your personal web host support PHP scripts, then you can follow the 
> steps outlined here:
>http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20a%20PHP%20Server
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cd6bcaa0-b32f-4e5c-9700-05c6af03d5be%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving a TiddlyWiki uploaded to personal webhost.

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:16:00 PM UTC-8, Joshua Galan wrote:
>
> TiddlyWiki novice here. I am using a Google Chrome browser and have 
> uploaded a relatively new TiddlyWiki index.html file onto a personal web 
> host of mine. Whenever I click on the "save changes" icon, it prompts me to 
> save the index.html file onto my computer. This is extremely inconvenient 
> as it would require me to re-upload the most current index.html file *every 
> single* time I make a modification that is saved.
> Is there anyway to have changes saved directly to the index.html on my 
> server? 
>

If your personal web host support PHP scripts, then you can follow the 
steps outlined here:
   http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20a%20PHP%20Server

enjoy,
-e

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0d7f9664-8ee8-4200-897b-d34f32dd5f34%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving my TiddlyWiki File

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Christoph,
 

> Changing back to the old IE-Version is not an option (Company policy).
>

What wiggle room does your company provide?
If you are forced to work with ie, then that's unfortunate.
Although, I wouldn't know what (new) restrictions exist for ie 11.
Otherwise, use a (portable version of) Firefox.

Best wishes,

— tb

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/980e8559-442a-42ce-801b-0a42cb086a12%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TW with sidebar section closed

[Atul Grover]

I remember doing it one, by importing a json command. I have forgotten how 
i did it?




On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 9:30:57 PM UTC+5:30, Atul Grover wrote:
>
> Dear all, 
>
> When I save TW5 from the "save changes" (tickmark icon), TW5 reopens with 
> the sidebar open. I want to change this last state of TW5, so that it opens 
> with sidebar closed. 
>
> If I close the sidebar and try saving TW5 with "save page as" mechanism, 
> the browzer changes the name of the page to "Title - Subtitle", I don't 
> want to save page with this name. 
>
> So how does one save the TW5, such that it opens with sidebar closed? 
>
> Regards
> Atul
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ecedd835-c62e-43f7-8312-c2c3bfad741c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TW with sidebar section closed

[Mat]

Unless I'm misunderstanding your description or the context; you must NOT 
save via the browser "Save page" function. You should save using the 
sidebar save button (circle with tick, turning red).

If you need to save when the sidebar is closed you must first make sure you 
reach the save button from some *other* position. Do a quikc search among 
the discussions over these past days and it was clearly deatiled by, I 
believe, Eric.

<:-)



On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 6:04:27 PM UTC+2, Atul Grover wrote:
>
> I remember doing it one, by importing a json command. I have forgotten how 
> i did it?
>
> I also have some images in folder which are linked (hardcoded) in the TW.
> Now when I try saving TW from a server, the browzer renames the file as 
> "title-subtitle", with images in the folder "title-subtitle_files", this 
> removes the link to the images.
>
> Is there a way to save the html file from the server with a name other 
> than "title-subtitle" so as to maintain the hard coded links?
>
> Regards
> Atul
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/43e17f2f-6326-46e4-a549-a744087cf6fa%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TW with sidebar section closed

[Atul Grover]

Thanks Mat...found it...

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/saving$20sidebar/tiddlywiki/CgmcRls_mkE/rQx6tBxTqIIJ

On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 9:30:57 PM UTC+5:30, Atul Grover wrote:
>
> Dear all, 
>
> When I save TW5 from the "save changes" (tickmark icon), TW5 reopens with 
> the sidebar open. I want to change this last state of TW5, so that it opens 
> with sidebar closed. 
>
> If I close the sidebar and try saving TW5 with "save page as" mechanism, 
> the browzer changes the name of the page to "Title - Subtitle", I don't 
> want to save page with this name. 
>
> So how does one save the TW5, such that it opens with sidebar closed? 
>
> Regards
> Atul
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/244e3b4a-85f6-4d7f-a5f8-3b6ec9da0480%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving articles in tiddlywiki

[Stefan]

Hi there, I can help with the wget commands and the tiddy-ing up of 
stuff (your step 3).

1. One option (that I previously worked with) is portia 
, scrapy 
.

2. python +(wget + beautifulsoup 
) = not tried it 
yet, but seems better when you don't want to use any manually generated 
templates - portia.

from subprocess import call
urlx = 'links.txt'


call(['wget','-p' , '--timestamping', '-P' , 'tests/', '--convert-links', '-e 
robots=off','--connect-timeout=20','--adjust-extension',
'--keep-session-cookies','--convert-links','--user-agent=\"Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/40.1\"', '-i', urlx
])

Or if you only want to use wget, use the arguments above with the last 
argument : 
-i links.txt

where you store your links, one link on one line.

For point 4. from your list we can extend our python script to generate new 
.tid files that contain the content that you want to import. I suggest you 
tinker with the node.js version of tiddlywiki because each tiddler is 
contained in a separate file, and it's easier to work with in this scenario.

Also, you can import the whole webpage to a tiddler by using  ... 
webpage here with all resources embedded ... , this should be your 
step 4, if 3 doesn't work as expected.

If 3 doesn't work as expected, we can always use portia /scrapy for 
extracting information from each page, but it's more time consuming to set 
up + learn some regex.

Another thing to keep in mind, is that you might want to follow the links 
from the bookmarks, for example a blog post might refer two other 5 
relevant resources, why not get them too ? :-)

Regards,
Stefan


On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 04:00:43 UTC+3, RunningUtes wrote:
>
>
> I've been thinking lately about storing full text articles in a 
> tiddlywiki. Right now I'm using Pocket to save the links.
>
> My current thoughts on the process:
> 1. Export the links from pocket using https://getpocket.com/export
> 2. Use wget to grab all the articles and images (wget -i 
> ExportedPocketURLs.txt)
> 3. Clean up the article like pocket. This is the step that is giving me an 
> issue.
> 4. Drag and drop all the files into a tiddlywiki
>
> Another option I'm toying with is to:
> 1. Tag articles in pocket with "Save" tag
> 2. Use IFTTT to save articles with the "Save" tag to an Evernote notebook
> 3. Export Evernote articles to html
> 4. Drag and drop all the files into a tiddlywiki
>
> Has anyone had any luck with something that works?
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/df1ccc2f-6349-422f-ab0c-30a6596f02de%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving articles in tiddlywiki

[Stefan]

Also, had another idea, we can use their API (pretty sure they won't like 
this) to poll for updates from the server.
The way I think this would work is to :

1. Import some kind of tool like jquery to tiddlywiki, to further use it to 
handle communication via JSON with the server.
2. Use this to 
register as a developer and get an API key.
3. Retrieve a list of new articles, with the below attributes.
4. Retrieve all articles (only text content, no html) from getpocket, save 
it locally to a new tiddler with the attributes retrieved from the server.

Example JSON response : http://pastebin.com/czJYZF1Y

Regards,
Stefan


On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 04:00:43 UTC+3, RunningUtes wrote:
>
>
> I've been thinking lately about storing full text articles in a 
> tiddlywiki. Right now I'm using Pocket to save the links.
>
> My current thoughts on the process:
> 1. Export the links from pocket using https://getpocket.com/export
> 2. Use wget to grab all the articles and images (wget -i 
> ExportedPocketURLs.txt)
> 3. Clean up the article like pocket. This is the step that is giving me an 
> issue.
> 4. Drag and drop all the files into a tiddlywiki
>
> Another option I'm toying with is to:
> 1. Tag articles in pocket with "Save" tag
> 2. Use IFTTT to save articles with the "Save" tag to an Evernote notebook
> 3. Export Evernote articles to html
> 4. Drag and drop all the files into a tiddlywiki
>
> Has anyone had any luck with something that works?
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/281dd75c-936c-4530-9160-41f10cd2be56%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving articles in tiddlywiki

[PMario]

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 3:00:43 AM UTC+2, RunningUtes wrote:
>
>
> I've been thinking lately about storing full text articles in a 
> tiddlywiki. Right now I'm using Pocket to save the links.
>
> My current thoughts on the process:
>

As long as you keep the stuff private, I think you are good to go. If you 
re-publish the content, please take care. see: 
https://getpocket.com/tos#copyright

-m

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bb5d993a-e2fc-4a72-9c34-bd4c88b2c67c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving articles in tiddlywiki

[RunningUtes]

I just wanted to keep the content for a full text search. TW is wonderful 
at this! All info stays private.

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 1:56:14 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 3:00:43 AM UTC+2, RunningUtes wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've been thinking lately about storing full text articles in a 
>> tiddlywiki. Right now I'm using Pocket to save the links.
>>
>> My current thoughts on the process:
>>
>
> As long as you keep the stuff private, I think you are good to go. If you 
> re-publish the content, please take care. see: 
> https://getpocket.com/tos#copyright
>
> -m
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a09e8c52-b7d6-4688-b66e-cf12e652dc1c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving articles in tiddlywiki

[PMario]

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 7:30:23 PM UTC+2, Ben H. wrote:
>
> At some point I will be trying to do the same thing. What would be really 
> cool is if there was a way to automatically important the contents of 
> emails as tiddlers. Setup a folder or tag on the mail server, and then use 
> some plugin to connect to the mail server and import the contents of the 
> designated folder or tag. 


There have been some discussions (long time ago), that an IMAP server could 
be used as a tiddler store. But at the time there haven't been any good 
browser libraries to connect to mail servers. ... This has changed in the 
mean time. So the idea imo is still very interesting. 

-m

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TiddlyWiki" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4176c117-f575-415e-95e5-995b6c2726f5%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: saving Node.js-served wiki to Tiddlyspot directly

[Rustem]

Yes, it works! I was putting the full URL into the Wiki Name field, so it 
was failing silently. Some message would be helpful, like Tiddlyspot wiki 
does not exist, check the name. When a password is wrong, the message is 
very clear.

thanks!

R.

On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 8:26:54 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Rustem

  What would be the most direct way to upload my node.js-served wiki to 
 Tiddlyspot? 

 It's actually really easy: run your Node.js wiki in the usual way. Visit 
 Control Panel Saving tab and enter your TiddlySpot wiki name. When you 
 want to save a snapshot to TiddlySpot just click the save changes button 
 in the sidebar. A snapshot of the wiki (without the client-server plugins) 
 will be saved to TiddlySpot. Tiddlers are still synced to the server in the 
 usual way, too. I tested the procedure in Chrome; I'd expect Firefox to 
 complain about the cross-origin form post (but there's probably a flag you 
 can use to suppress that).

 Best wishes

 Jeremy




 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:21 AM, PMario pmar...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hi Rustem,

 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 4:11:23 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:

 What would be the most direct way to upload my node.js-served wiki to 
 Tiddlyspot? 


 As you found out. Direct save is not possible 

 If you served your TW from your nodejs installation you get it from 
 http://localhost which is a domain. http://tiddlyspot.com is a different 
 domain. .. So due to browser security restrictions, this isn't allowed.
  

 Do I need to save my wiki as a single file first, before I can 
 successfully upload it to Tiddlyspot? Or can I somehow switch to the 
 appropriate saver temporarily, just for the upload?


 IMO 2 possibilities: 

  - You create a single file TW from your local copy. .. With nodejs. Just 
 build it. It's relatively easy. ... 
 - Then upload this fire as described. 

  - It would be also possible to create a tiddlers.json file that contains 
 just your recent changes. 
- Serve your TW from tiddlyspot.com and import your tiddlers. .. If 
 TW is served from tiddlyspot.com it can be saved back. 
  

 To be clear, I am not interested in any kind of back-and-forth 
 synchronization. Strictly one-way publishing to TS. I'm happy maintaining 
 the wiki using node.js.



 If someone has better ideas. ... Just let us know :)

 have fun!
 mario

 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com 
 javascript:.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 To view this discussion on the web visit 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dabd5eaa-13da-4210-8f1c-d6232b2e7179%40googlegroups.com
  
 https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dabd5eaa-13da-4210-8f1c-d6232b2e7179%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer
 .

 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 -- 
 Jeremy Ruston
 mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript:
  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/706b0674-5c72-4f9d-a1c4-452f7eb2f49c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: saving Node.js-served wiki to Tiddlyspot directly

[Mat]

I wish it were possible but AFAIK you can't host TWnode.js on tiddlyspot. 
For one thing, you cannot get a folder (for holding the TWnode.js files).


:-)



On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 4:11:23 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:

 What would be the most direct way to upload my node.js-served wiki to 
 Tiddlyspot? Do I need to save my wiki as a single file first, before I can 
 successfully upload it to Tiddlyspot? Or can I somehow switch to the 
 appropriate saver temporarily, just for the upload?

 I tried to follow the instructions (
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot) directly, nothing 
 happens. It says saving, but tiddlyspot remains unchanged, presenting a 
 default TWC.

 To be clear, I am not interested in any kind of back-and-forth 
 synchronization. Strictly one-way publishing to TS. I'm happy maintaining 
 the wiki using node.js.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/08f8abfc-09b1-4591-b5ec-c998d4aee2a4%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: saving Node.js-served wiki to Tiddlyspot directly

[PMario]

Hi Rustem,

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 4:11:23 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:

 What would be the most direct way to upload my node.js-served wiki to 
 Tiddlyspot? 


As you found out. Direct save is not possible 

If you served your TW from your nodejs installation you get it from 
http://localhost which is a domain. http://tiddlyspot.com is a different 
domain. .. So due to browser security restrictions, this isn't allowed.
 

 Do I need to save my wiki as a single file first, before I can 
 successfully upload it to Tiddlyspot? Or can I somehow switch to the 
 appropriate saver temporarily, just for the upload?


IMO 2 possibilities: 

 - You create a single file TW from your local copy. .. With nodejs. Just 
build it. It's relatively easy. ... 
- Then upload this fire as described. 

 - It would be also possible to create a tiddlers.json file that contains 
just your recent changes. 
   - Serve your TW from tiddlyspot.com and import your tiddlers. .. If TW 
is served from tiddlyspot.com it can be saved back. 
 

 To be clear, I am not interested in any kind of back-and-forth 
 synchronization. Strictly one-way publishing to TS. I'm happy maintaining 
 the wiki using node.js.



If someone has better ideas. ... Just let us know :)

have fun!
mario

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dabd5eaa-13da-4210-8f1c-d6232b2e7179%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving just re-downloads the file. How to re-configure the save option?

[Priyesh]

I guess it's time to download firefox again.

Seems silly that there's no other workaround.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving just re-downloads the file. How to re-configure the save option?

[PMario]

On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 1:36:25 AM UTC+1, Priyesh wrote:

 I guess it's time to download firefox again.


You need to use TiddlyFox [1] AddOn to enable direct saving, otherwise the 
behaviour will be the same. 
 

 Seems silly that there's no other workaround.


It's all about security. ... For TiddlyWiki it's a disadvantage :/

TiddlyDesktop may be an option [2].

have fun!
mario

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tiddlyfox/
[2] https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop
 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving just re-downloads the file. How to re-configure the save option?

[Stephan Hradek]

http://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Chrome


TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki on Google Chrome can only 
 save changes using the HTML5-compatible fallback saver module.


To me it seems: There is no other way in Chrome. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving just re-downloads the file. How to re-configure the save option?

[PMario]

On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 7:03:09 AM UTC+1, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Chrome


 TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki on Google Chrome can only 
 save changes using the HTML5-compatible fallback saver module.


 To me it seems: There is no other way in Chrome. 


That's right.
-m 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving

[Eric Shulman]

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 11:39:51 AM UTC-8, David Moore wrote:

 Hi there, I have been using 2.6 for years now and decided it was time to 
 upgrade, the saving of the page always annoyed me, and I assumed this might 
 be fixed by now.

 However having downloaded the latest version, (which looks great by the 
 way), it seems the same.  However I do notice some instructions which would 
 imply it's fixed, but I can't see how to implement them.

 Getting Started says TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki on 
 Google Chrome can only save changes using the HTML5-compatible fallback 
 saver module.

 However I don't see how to install this module, there is no link to it, 
 and no other reference to it in the instructions.  Therefore saving the 
 file results in a new file (empty (2).html etc)
 I tried in IE as well, however it does the same thing.

 Are there any instructions on how to get the page to save, without saving 
 a copy, and then remembering to open the copy next time...?


The behavior you describe is the result of the *built-in* HTML5-compatible 
fallback saver module.  It uses the browser's native download a file 
handler to do the work of saving your changes to the local disk.  It works 
in the usual manner: there is a default current directory into which 
things will be saved and, when filenames collide, the system adds the 
(#) suffix.  Depending upon your browser, you can configure the download 
handling to always ask.  In that case, instead of automatically saving a 
file with the number suffix, you can select the *existing* filename (i.e., 
without any number suffix) and then confirm when asked if you want to 
overwrite it.

It is important to note that, because of browser security restrictions, the 
download saver is the ONLY method that works regardless of your browser 
or system setup.
However, if you are using FireFox, then there is a browser-based addon 
called TiddlyFox that automatically adds secure local file I/O handling 
into the TiddlyWiki core code.  After installing TiddlyFox, TiddlyWiki can 
then write updates directly to your filesystem.  See 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyFox for details.

Also note that, if you intend to use your TiddlyWii file remotely (i.e., 
from an http:// URL) or if you are going to be using it locally on other 
people's systems (e.g., read/save to/from a USB stick), then download 
saving may be the ONLY reliable option available to save your changes.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

Inside TiddlyWiki: The Missing Manual
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/inside-tiddlywiki-the-missing-manual/x/8816263

YOUR DONATIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT!
HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR...
   http://TiddlyTools.github.com/fundraising.html#MakeADonation

Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services...
Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving

[Eric Shulman]

addendum:


If you don't want to use FireFox with TiddlyFox, there is another 
alternative that also provides secure local file I/O:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyDesktop

If you download and install the TiddlyDesktop application onto your system, 
you can then use it to view, edit and save your TiddlyWiki documents (both 
Classic and 5 are supported).  This program provides it's own built-in 
browser, but leaves off all the extra browser stuff (i.e. menus, toolbars, 
bookmarks, etc.), so that the running TiddlyWiki document appears to be 
more like a native application, rather than simply a page in your browser.

-e

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving

[David Moore]

Eric, thanks for your detailed response.  I did think in classic I could 
open and edit at will in any browser, however perhaps not. My default 
browser (chrome) isn't set to ask, it auto adds.  For firefox and IE I see 
I can use the addons/plugins.

I didn't like the idea of it only working in one browser, however thinking 
on it, I tend to do all my editing from one place, and then everyone else 
is read only (I use it for instructions and guides and lists - e.g. all the 
kids lego sets have a tiddler with a link to a local pdf of the 
instructions as they always lose / destroy them! - this requires the open 
all tiddlers for a tag, which has gone (was in classic), however that's in 
a different thread).

Given I edit from one place, the TiddlyDesktop might actually be a better 
idea!

On Monday, 2 March 2015 20:39:51 UTC+1, David Moore wrote:

 Hi there, I have been using 2.6 for years now and decided it was time to 
 upgrade, the saving of the page always annoyed me, and I assumed this might 
 be fixed by now.

 However having downloaded the latest version, (which looks great by the 
 way), it seems the same.  However I do notice some instructions which would 
 imply it's fixed, but I can't see how to implement them.

 Getting Started says TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki on 
 Google Chrome can only save changes using the HTML5-compatible fallback 
 saver module.

 However I don't see how to install this module, there is no link to it, 
 and no other reference to it in the instructions.  Therefore saving the 
 file results in a new file (empty (2).html etc)
 I tried in IE as well, however it does the same thing.

 Are there any instructions on how to get the page to save, without saving 
 a copy, and then remembering to open the copy next time...?

 Thanks

 Dave


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving in TiddlyWiki 5.1.7 (Node.js) under Linux Mint 17.1 with Firefox and Chromium does not work for me

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Peter

I don't know why but it works.


Nice 

Those 2 plugins are needed, that the server can access the OS file system 
 and knows about the TiddlyWeb API. If the plugins are not loaded, the 
 mechanism fails silently. ... which is a problem. 

 In the future, there are plans to include those functions into the core, 
 which will remove this problem. ... But there is no roadmap yet. 


Always ask Mario for difficult server related stuff ;)

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving in TiddlyWiki 5.1.7 (Node.js) under Linux Mint 17.1 with Firefox and Chromium does not work for me

[peterrun4fun]

Hi Felix,

your help got me on the right way. Now it works Thank you.

I changed the info file.

I tried to start with the node call but the server died ...
peter@linuxmint ~ $ node /usr/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js /
home/peter/peterwiki --verbose -server 8080
Boot log:
  Startup task: load-modules
  Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
  Startup task: startup after: load-modules
  Startup task: story after: startup
  Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story

But when I start with 
tiddlywiki peterwiki --server
Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)
syncer-server: Dispatching 'save' task: Draft of 'New Tiddler'
FileSystem: Saved file /home/peter/peterwiki/tiddlers/Draft of 'New Tiddler'
.tid
syncer-server: Dispatching 'save' task: Draft of 'New Tiddler'
FileSystem: Saved file /home/peter/peterwiki/tiddlers/Draft of 'New Tiddler'
.tid
syncer-server: Dispatching 'save' task: Draft of 'New Tiddler'
it works? ;-)

Gruß
Peter


Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2015 20:38:17 UTC+1 schrieb Felix Küppers:

 Hi Peter,

 I am using the same setup with Linux Mint 17.

 Try this info file:

 {
plugins: [
  tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb,
  tiddlywiki/filesystem
],
themes: [
  tiddlywiki/vanilla
],
languages: [
  en-US
],
build: {
  index: [--rendertiddler,$:/core/save/all,index.html,
 text/plain]
}
  }


 and start the server via

 node /some/path/tiddlywiki.js /your/wiki/path --verbose --server 8080

 otherwise I don't know...

 -Felix



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving in TiddlyWiki 5.1.7 (Node.js) under Linux Mint 17.1 with Firefox and Chromium does not work for me

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Peter,

I am using the same setup with Linux Mint 17.

Try this info file:

{
   plugins: [
 tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb,
 tiddlywiki/filesystem
   ],
   themes: [
 tiddlywiki/vanilla
   ],
   languages: [
 en-US
   ],
   build: {
 index: [--rendertiddler,$:/core/save/all,index.html,
text/plain]
   }
 }


and start the server via

node /some/path/tiddlywiki.js /your/wiki/path --verbose --server 8080

otherwise I don't know...

-Felix

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving in TiddlyWiki 5.1.7 (Node.js) under Linux Mint 17.1 with Firefox and Chromium does not work for me

[peterrun4fun]

 Hi Felix,


 

 The solution is to add the plugins to the info file.


plugins: [
 tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb,
 tiddlywiki/filesystem
   ]

I don't know why but it works. Does someone know why this is an error?

Best Regards

Peter

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving in TiddlyWiki 5.1.7 (Node.js) under Linux Mint 17.1 with Firefox and Chromium does not work for me

[PMario]

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 9:42:11 PM UTC+1, peterr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 The solution is to add the plugins to the info file.


 plugins: [
  tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb,
  tiddlywiki/filesystem
]

 I don't know why but it works. Does someone know why this is an error?


Those 2 plugins are needed, that the server can access the OS file system 
and knows about the TiddlyWeb API. If the plugins are not loaded, the 
mechanism fails silently. ... which is a problem. 

In the future, there are plans to include those functions into the core, 
which will remove this problem. ... But there is no roadmap yet. 

-mario

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving my Wiki online

[Kourosh Newman-Zand]

I couldn't find the TWc TspotControls for whatever reason.

But creating and saving the link seems to be the simplest way to do it!

Thanks!

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 5:26:56 PM UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:

 In a TWc on TiddlySpot, find a tiddler called *TspotControls*.
 There you have a link to download your wiki.

 Alternatively, create a link to your tiddlyspot in a tiddler.
 Right click that link and save as.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving my Wiki online

[Tobias Beer]

In a TWc on TiddlySpot, find a tiddler called *TspotControls*.
There you have a link to download your wiki.

Alternatively, create a link to your tiddlyspot in a tiddler.
Right click that link and save as.

Best wishes, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving my Wiki online

[RichShumaker]

First, I don't use TiddlySpot all that much but a question came up from 
reading your question.

Are you trying to download your TiddlyWiki from TiddlySpot?
or
Are you trying to sync your TW from your computer to TiddlySpot?
or
Other - Neither of the above I am trying to do X or Y

Let us know some more details as I think that will help us to answer your 
question better.

Rich Shumaker

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 7:01:16 AM UTC-8, Kourosh Newman-Zand wrote:

 I've just started using TiddlyWiki and have a question.

 How do I save my wiki that is on TiddlySpot and onto my own computer?

  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving my Wiki online

[Mat]

 Alternatively, create a link to your tiddlyspot in a tiddler.
 Right click that link and save as.


He! never thought of that!

I'll just mention that it is *not* advisable to right click just on the 
page, or use some browser menu control, and save page as (windows). I'm 
not 100% sure why, but this is one of those old things I learnt. It maybe 
different in TW5 but since you're new and on tiddlyspot, I'm guessing 
you're using TWC.

:-)

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Daniel]

Hello Andrew
I am following your post from half a year ago. 
I mainly use a chromebook. Most of my docs are on the cloud and I like to 
access tiddlys from different browsers/computers too. I am using TW5, but 
it's more important for me to be able to edit and save easily on any 
computer, and I will switch to TW Classic if I can save tiddly files onto a 
cloud directory without manual intervention. ie I am waiting for 
TiddlyChrome that replicates TiddlyFox functionality. But I can't wait.

But I can't follow the conversation about  / understand  the plugin  User-Agent 
Switcher 
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg,
 
 Will the plugin allow me to do simple saves - akin to tiddlyfox - with TWC 
 in ChromeOS (chromebook : where not .jar files can run) ?

Thanks

Den onsdag den 12. marts 2014 18.19.48 UTC-4 skrev Andrew Ashling:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox). 
 So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The file 
 is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvh...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent 
 Switcher 
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
  
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few 
 more.

 And it works… The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS, 
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance. 
 It was announced in this forum 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ but is 
 not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure 
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere 
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can 
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported 
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing the 
 user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be fixed, 
 so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The announcement 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ contains 
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with 
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back. 
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my 
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the 
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour is 
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
 tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com 
 javascript:.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 -- 
 *Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
 *For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
 Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases Newsletter: 
 subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A8ZVRA?ie=UTF8tag=ximerion-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=B004A8ZVRA


 http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dont-Mess-Us-ebook/dp/B004YWKA1O?tag=ximerion-20 
   
 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B004ISLQYO?tag=ximerion-20


 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B00513MMW0?tag=ximerion-20


 http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FInvisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook%2Fdp%2FB0058OIY4W%3Fs%3Ddigital-text%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1309390478%26sr%3D1-1tag=ximerion-20linkCode=ur2camp=1789creative=9325%22
  
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VN92WG?tag=ximerion-20
  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Andrew Ashling]

​Hi Daniel,

I'll try to answer what I've found out​ meanwhile, but please remember I'm
just a user (over seven years now), and by no means a programmer.



 I mainly use a chromebook. Most of my docs are on the cloud and I like to
 access tiddlys from different browsers/computers too. I am using TW5, but
 it's more important for me to be able to edit and save easily on any
 computer, and I will switch to TW Classic if I can save tiddly files onto a
 cloud directory without manual intervention. ie I am waiting for
 TiddlyChrome that replicates TiddlyFox functionality. But I can't wait.


​The only way I found up until now is a hosted solution​ like TiddlySpace
and the likes, but personally I'm not partial to those. IMHO there is a
need for a very simple module you can deploy on your own domain to host
TWs. I know there exist (or existed) some solutions but they were not what
I would call simple.

If you only need to consult your TWs you can simply put them in the Public
folder of DropBox. They're read only but otherwise fully functional. I
tested this the other day with my cluster of 13 linked TWs. And of course
they're up-to-date up until your last edit from another device.

My problem with a chromebook is that (whenever I get one) I will be using
it where there is no wireless connection. I'm almost certain you can access
TW in read only mode from the SSD. What I don't know is whether you can
synchronize the chromebook SSD with DropBox.

I realize none of this meets your requirement to be able to modify your TWs
with a chromebook and keep them synchronized over multiple devices.

But I can't follow the conversation about  / understand  the plugin  User-Agent
 Switcher
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg,
  Will the plugin allow me to do simple saves - akin to tiddlyfox - with TWC
  in ChromeOS (chromebook : where not .jar files can run) ?


Not to my knowledge. As far as my limited understanding goes the User-Agent
Switcher only shows you the pages as if rendered by another browser.
Useful for testing css and html, but I don't think the full functionality
is replicated.

Myself, I need a cheap, light laptop with a half decent screen, a decent
keyboard and about 8 hours autonomy on a full battery. To counter
chromebooks, Microsoft is encouraging manufacturers to produce low-spec,
low-cost notebooks, similar to chromebooks but running Windows 8.1.
I'm looking into those, and I expect a few will turn up around the
Holidays. (I would put a light Linux distribution like Lubuntu or
Peppermint on it.) This would allow me to use Firefox for TW and Chrome for
a few apps I like.

Sorry, but I can't provide a better answer.






On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Daniel dcla...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Andrew
 I am following your post from half a year ago.
 I mainly use a chromebook. Most of my docs are on the cloud and I like to
 access tiddlys from different browsers/computers too. I am using TW5, but
 it's more important for me to be able to edit and save easily on any
 computer, and I will switch to TW Classic if I can save tiddly files onto a
 cloud directory without manual intervention. ie I am waiting for
 TiddlyChrome that replicates TiddlyFox functionality. But I can't wait.

 But I can't follow the conversation about  / understand  the plugin  
 User-Agent
 Switcher
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg,
  Will the plugin allow me to do simple saves - akin to tiddlyfox - with TWC
  in ChromeOS (chromebook : where not .jar files can run) ?

 Thanks

 Den onsdag den 12. marts 2014 18.19.48 UTC-4 skrev Andrew Ashling:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox).
 So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The
 file is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcher
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few
 more.

 And it works… The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS,
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance.
 It was announced in this forum
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ but is
 not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can
 use the unsigned jar included in 

[tw] Re: Saving problems, special characters disappearing and corrupting backup saves.

[Nikolaï Samarine]

Hi!

Thanks for your answers, it gives me hope!
First, I'll tell you what I tried yesterday:
-I changed the folder in which my wiki was, in order to avoid special 
characters in the folder path (maybe...) but it didn't work, as expected.
-I tried to open the wiki in Google Chrome (which I never use, usually) or 
in Firefox (but I don't have tiddlyfox), didn't change anything.
-I experimented a bit. The best I can do so far is to open the wiki from 
its folder and save it without any change. If I add something, it bugs. But 
even if I save it just like that, the special characters die... the file 
size drops from 1682 Ko to 1530 Ko... which is because it loses all the 
special characters, I guess. (But it can save properly for anything but the 
special characters...)

I didn't install any securty program, since I'm in the middle of my 
license. I suspected a malicious program as well, but a total scan didn't 
reveal anything.
I never update IE, because I only use it for the wiki, and the current 
version I have works fine with it.
Concerning my actual version of TW, It's an old classic version. I tried to 
download the actual classic TW, but I don't like it, because every time I 
ask it to save, it offers me to download the file, instead of doing a 
backup file and saving itself automatically. This is enough of a burden to 
stop me from using it... and I tested it enough to see that it killed the 
special characters as well when it saves.

I will continue to do some research on my sides, starting with TiddlyFox.

Thank you for your answers!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving problems, special characters disappearing and corrupting backup saves.

[Nikolaï Samarine]

Fast feedback:

It looks like tiddlyfox did the job.

I can save my wiki again, close it and open it to see that the special 
characters are still there... I'll test it today with bigger tiddlers and 
changes, and I'll tell you the word of it.

Thank you both for your counsels!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving problems, special characters disappearing and corrupting backup saves.

[Stephan Hradek]

Did you try to open your files in a better browser? I assume you have 
FireFox? Did you miss to install the TiddlyFox add-on which would allow you 
to save.

BTW: TWc or TW5?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Paul Levey]

:0) No worries.


On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Andrew Ashling andrew.ashl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Paul,

 I'm sorry, but it seems I sent you on somewhat of a wild goose chase.
 I took some more tests and the new TiddlySaver.jar makes backups just fine.
 Embarrassingly enough, I must have looked in a wrong directory. But this
 time I'm positive: all works fine.
 Sorry again.




 On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:38:34 AM UTC+1, Andrew Ashling wrote:

 Okay, if this has been mentioned already, just ignore me or delete this
 entry.

 I just installed Chrome on my fresh install of Mint Petra, Cinnamon
 Edition (based on Ubuntu 13.10, IIRC)

 I work with a cluster of linked TWs, grouped in one folder, together with
 TddlySaver.jar.


 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS, so,
 since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,

 The behavior is slightly different though than what I'm used to. Instead
 of saving a new copy, it saves the changed file over the old one.

 I give this information as is, in hopes it can help someone. I have to
 stress though that I'm hardly a specialist, so if there's any interest,
 some people with more knowledge and experience than I have should try to
 replicate my findings.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


  --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Andrew Ashling]

Paul,

I'm sorry, but it seems I sent you on somewhat of a wild goose chase.
I took some more tests and the new TiddlySaver.jar makes backups just fine.
Embarrassingly enough, I must have looked in a wrong directory. But this 
time I'm positive: all works fine.
Sorry again.




On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:38:34 AM UTC+1, Andrew Ashling wrote:

 Okay, if this has been mentioned already, just ignore me or delete this 
 entry.

 I just installed Chrome on my fresh install of Mint Petra, Cinnamon 
 Edition (based on Ubuntu 13.10, IIRC)

 I work with a cluster of linked TWs, grouped in one folder, together with 
 TddlySaver.jar.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent 
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
  
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few 
 more.

 And it works… The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS, so, 
 since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,

 The behavior is slightly different though than what I'm used to. Instead 
 of saving a new copy, it saves the changed file over the old one.

 I give this information as is, in hopes it can help someone. I have to 
 stress though that I'm hardly a specialist, so if there's any interest, 
 some people with more knowledge and experience than I have should try to 
 replicate my findings.

 Cheers,

 Andrew




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Andrew Ashling]

I checked, and in my TW's both SaveBackups and Autosave are checked.

(Also when starting up I get an error when including message about the
linked TW's. They link fine however.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The 'SaveBackups' option in the sidebar 'options ' slider. (Apparently
 these options are saved on a per browser basis, so they could be different
 for different browsers.)


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Andrew Ashling andrew.ashl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 The same TWs save  backup with TiddlyFox.


 Which options, by the way?


 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Andrew.

 Thanks for the report. As to backups: did you check your option setting?


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Ashling 
 andrew.ashl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use
 TiddlyFox). So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is
 great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The
 file is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a 
 few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS,
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance.
 It was announced in this 
 forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut 
 is not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which 
 can
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing
 the user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be
 fixed, so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The 
 announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ
  contains
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back.
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour 
 is
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 --
 *Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
 *For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
 Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases
 Newsletter: subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A8ZVRA?ie=UTF8tag=ximerion-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=B004A8ZVRA

 http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dont-Mess-Us-ebook/dp/B004YWKA1O?tag=ximerion-20
 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B004ISLQYO?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B00513MMW0?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FInvisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook%2Fdp%2FB0058OIY4W%3Fs%3Ddigital-text%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1309390478%26sr%3D1-1tag=ximerion-20linkCode=ur2camp=1789creative=9325%22
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VN92WG?tag=ximerion-20

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit 

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Paul Levey]

Thanks Andrew.

I am unable to recreate your problem in my own setup (Chrome 33.x portable
on Windows 7). It saves both files automatically and manually, though I
notice it doesn't save the 'Autosave' option and I have to reset it ...
this is not a TIddlySaver issue though.

I am focused on trying to make sure that TIddlySaver works so the new
version can be released and am not too competent on other areas of TW
operation.

Your observations are important though as it looks like TWC in Chrome has
some bugs that are obviated by changing the user agent string (therefore
probably browser sniffing errors).

Perhaps Eric will look into it.

Cheers, Paul.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andrew Ashling andrew.ashl...@gmail.comwrote:

 I checked, and in my TW's both SaveBackups and Autosave are checked.

 (Also when starting up I get an error when including message about the
 linked TW's. They link fine however.


 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The 'SaveBackups' option in the sidebar 'options ' slider. (Apparently
 these options are saved on a per browser basis, so they could be different
 for different browsers.)


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Andrew Ashling 
 andrew.ashl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The same TWs save  backup with TiddlyFox.


 Which options, by the way?


 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Andrew.

 Thanks for the report. As to backups: did you check your option setting?


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Ashling 
 andrew.ashl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use
 TiddlyFox). So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is
 great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The
 file is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a 
 few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome
 OS, so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on
 Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any
 assistance. It was announced in this 
 forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut 
 is not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which 
 can
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing
 the user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be
 fixed, so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The 
 announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ
  contains
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report 
 back.
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour 
 is
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in
 the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 --
 *Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
 *For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
 Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases
 Newsletter: subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A8ZVRA?ie=UTF8tag=ximerion-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=B004A8ZVRA

 http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dont-Mess-Us-ebook/dp/B004YWKA1O?tag=ximerion-20
 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B004ISLQYO?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B00513MMW0?tag=ximerion-20

 

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Andrew Ashling]

Glad to have been of help.

Let me add that it was the same behavior whether I was using Chrome as
Firefox with the User-Agent Switcher or Chrome with the new TiddlySaver.jar

No thanks necessary, by the way. I've been using TWC at least for six years
(more like eight, I think). I'm not all that technical, but I'm glad I can
contribute *somethin*g at least.


On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Andrew.

 I am unable to recreate your problem in my own setup (Chrome 33.x portable
 on Windows 7). It saves both files automatically and manually, though I
 notice it doesn't save the 'Autosave' option and I have to reset it ...
 this is not a TIddlySaver issue though.

 I am focused on trying to make sure that TIddlySaver works so the new
 version can be released and am not too competent on other areas of TW
 operation.

 Your observations are important though as it looks like TWC in Chrome has
 some bugs that are obviated by changing the user agent string (therefore
 probably browser sniffing errors).

 Perhaps Eric will look into it.

 Cheers, Paul.


 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andrew Ashling 
 andrew.ashl...@gmail.comwrote:

 I checked, and in my TW's both SaveBackups and Autosave are checked.

 (Also when starting up I get an error when including message about the
 linked TW's. They link fine however.


 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The 'SaveBackups' option in the sidebar 'options ' slider. (Apparently
 these options are saved on a per browser basis, so they could be different
 for different browsers.)


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Andrew Ashling 
 andrew.ashl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The same TWs save  backup with TiddlyFox.


 Which options, by the way?


 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Andrew.

 Thanks for the report. As to backups: did you check your option
 setting?


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Ashling 
 andrew.ashl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use
 TiddlyFox). So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is
 great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The
 file is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called 
 User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and 
 a few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome
 OS, so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on
 Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any
 assistance. It was announced in this 
 forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut
  is not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which 
 can
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing
 the user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be
 fixed, so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The 
 announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ
  contains
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report 
 back.
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on
 my system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This 
 behaviour is
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in
 the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe
 .
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 --
 *Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
 *For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
 Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases
 Newsletter: subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*

 

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Andrew Ashling]

The same TWs save  backup with TiddlyFox.


Which options, by the way?


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Andrew.

 Thanks for the report. As to backups: did you check your option setting?


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Ashling 
 andrew.ashl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox).
 So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The
 file is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS,
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance.
 It was announced in this 
 forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut is 
 not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing the
 user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be fixed,
 so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The 
 announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ
  contains
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back.
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour is
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 --
 *Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
 *For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
 Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases
 Newsletter: subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A8ZVRA?ie=UTF8tag=ximerion-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=B004A8ZVRA

 http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dont-Mess-Us-ebook/dp/B004YWKA1O?tag=ximerion-20
 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B004ISLQYO?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B00513MMW0?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FInvisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook%2Fdp%2FB0058OIY4W%3Fs%3Ddigital-text%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1309390478%26sr%3D1-1tag=ximerion-20linkCode=ur2camp=1789creative=9325%22
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VN92WG?tag=ximerion-20

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


  --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit 

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Paul Levey]

The 'SaveBackups' option in the sidebar 'options ' slider. (Apparently
these options are saved on a per browser basis, so they could be different
for different browsers.)


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Andrew Ashling
andrew.ashl...@gmail.comwrote:

 The same TWs save  backup with TiddlyFox.


 Which options, by the way?


 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Paul Levey pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Andrew.

 Thanks for the report. As to backups: did you check your option setting?


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Ashling andrew.ashl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox).
 So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The
 file is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a 
 few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS,
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance.
 It was announced in this 
 forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut 
 is not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing the
 user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be fixed,
 so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The 
 announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ
  contains
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back.
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour is
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 --
 *Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
 *For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
 Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases
 Newsletter: subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A8ZVRA?ie=UTF8tag=ximerion-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=B004A8ZVRA

 http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dont-Mess-Us-ebook/dp/B004YWKA1O?tag=ximerion-20
 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B004ISLQYO?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B00513MMW0?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FInvisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook%2Fdp%2FB0058OIY4W%3Fs%3Ddigital-text%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1309390478%26sr%3D1-1tag=ximerion-20linkCode=ur2camp=1789creative=9325%22
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VN92WG?tag=ximerion-20

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


  --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from 

[tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[PVHL]

Hi Guys.

I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent 
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
  
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few 
 more.

 And it works… The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS, so, 
 since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance. 
It was announced in this 
forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut is not 
yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure 
everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere 
and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can 
use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported 
problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing the 
user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be fixed, 
so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

The 
announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ 
contains 
more information and links to the jar.

It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with 
TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back. 
Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my 
system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the 
original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour is 
controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

Cheers, Paul.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Andrew Ashling]

Hi Paul,


The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox). So
probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The file
is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

Cheers,

Andrew


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS, so,
 since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance.
 It was announced in this 
 forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut is 
 not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing the
 user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be fixed,
 so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The 
 announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ 
 contains
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back.
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour is
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




-- 
*Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
*For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases Newsletter:
subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A8ZVRA?ie=UTF8tag=ximerion-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=B004A8ZVRA
http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dont-Mess-Us-ebook/dp/B004YWKA1O?tag=ximerion-20
http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B004ISLQYO?tag=ximerion-20
http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B00513MMW0?tag=ximerion-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FInvisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook%2Fdp%2FB0058OIY4W%3Fs%3Ddigital-text%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1309390478%26sr%3D1-1tag=ximerion-20linkCode=ur2camp=1789creative=9325%22
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VN92WG?tag=ximerion-20

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

[Paul Levey]

@Andrew.

Thanks for the report. As to backups: did you check your option setting?


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Ashling andrew.ashl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox).
 So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The file
 is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvhl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcherhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few
 more.

 And it works... The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS,
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance.
 It was announced in this 
 forumhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQbut is 
 not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing the
 user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be fixed,
 so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The 
 announcementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ 
 contains
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back.
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour is
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

 Cheers, Paul.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.




 --
 *Books* by *Andrew Ashling*
 *For Kindle edition on Amazon click the thumbnails *
 Website: *Ximerion* http://www.ximerion.com/ - New Releases Newsletter:
 subscribe *here http://www.ximerion.com/nrn-em*

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A8ZVRA?ie=UTF8tag=ximerion-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=B004A8ZVRA

 http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dont-Mess-Us-ebook/dp/B004YWKA1O?tag=ximerion-20
 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B004ISLQYO?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook/dp/B00513MMW0?tag=ximerion-20

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FInvisible-Chains-Randamor-Recluse-ebook%2Fdp%2FB0058OIY4W%3Fs%3Ddigital-text%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1309390478%26sr%3D1-1tag=ximerion-20linkCode=ur2camp=1789creative=9325%22
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VN92WG?tag=ximerion-20

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
 Google Groups TiddlyWiki group.
 To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LGYew5hXg2U/unsubscribe.
 To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
 tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Arc Acorn]

I just realized that I had my Tiddlyfox files miss-labeled... and instead 
of a17  a18 I had two copies of a18

TiddlyFox 16 and 18 All seem to work with my ESR 17.0.8

Saving issues seem to be localized toTiddlyFox a17 which is the current 
version in Firefox's Add-on system, my subgestion is to use a18 or a16 
instead of a3 which can be found 
here: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Oliver Schwabedissen]

Am Freitag, 6. September 2013 10:46:43 UTC+2 schrieb 
aikem...@btinternet.com:

I've now regressed to TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3 and can now save successfully.

 So is it  -
 For the 17 esr series and FireFox 21 and under to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3
 For standard FireFox 22 and greater to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha17


I found the same problem today using FF ESR 17.0.8 on Linux with TiddlyFox 
1.0alpha17 (current version according to mozilla.org).

I can't save a modified TiddlyWiki and had to go back to alpha03 (from 
mozilla.org). Using alpha03 everything seems to work, only problem is that 
FF wants to update the add-on to alpha17.

FF 23.0.1 on Win7 works fine with alpha17, though.

As I understand alpha18 should work with FF ESR 17.0.8 again. Can I 
download it somewhere to try it?

Oliver

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Oliver Schwabedissen]

Am Mittwoch, 11. September 2013 12:45:24 UTC+2 schrieb Oliver Schwabedissen:


 As I understand alpha18 should work with FF ESR 17.0.8 again. Can I 
 download it somewhere to try it?


Answering myself... just downloaded the version from git repo which seems 
to be alpha18. This version works fine again with FF ESR 17.0.8. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[aikempshall]

Thanks for the quick reply Arc Acorn.

I think I'm running TiddlyWiki 2.6.6  - How do I confirm this?

I've now regressed to TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3 and can now save successfully.

So is it  -
For the 17 esr series and FireFox 21 and under to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3
For standard FireFox 22 and greater to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha17
Alex

On Thursday, 5 September 2013 22:59:32 UTC+1, aikem...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hi All

 I've started to get problems saving my TiddlyWiki. Get this message

 It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
 - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
 and Opera all work if properly configured)
 - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
 - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed


 I've got the Addon TiddlyFox installed.

 I last successfully saved it on 1st August 2013 using FireFox 21. 

 Because of other reasons I've reverted to FireFox esr 17 series. Currently 
 on 17.0.8esr, same problem with 17.0.7esr.

 I've proved that Firefox 23.0.1  saves the TiddlyWiki successfully. So the 
 problem looks like with the esr series.

 Any suggestions?

 Alex

  


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Eric,

Jeremy will need to confirm this: Sometime between the FF15 and FF22 
 releases, the Firefox folks changed some of the APIs used by TiddlyFox. 
  Jeremy re-wrote the TiddlyFox code accordingly, but that introduced a 
 backward-compatibility issue for users of FF21 and earlier.  Your solution 
 (reverting to the older TiddlyFox) is the correct workaround.


I believe the listing in the Firefox addon repository needs to be corrected 
accordingly to reflect actual compatibility with Firefox. Sure, it won't 
crash the browser if you have the wrong version but it won't work either.


Kind regards, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Eric Shulman]

 Friday, September 6, 2013 1:46:43 AM UTC-7, aikem...@btinternet.com wrote:

 For the 17 esr series and FireFox 21 and under to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3
 For standard FireFox 22 and greater to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha17


Jeremy will need to confirm this: Sometime between the FF15 and FF22 
releases, the Firefox folks changed some of the APIs used by TiddlyFox. 
 Jeremy re-wrote the TiddlyFox code accordingly, but that introduced a 
backward-compatibility issue for users of FF21 and earlier.  Your solution 
(reverting to the older TiddlyFox) is the correct workaround.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR...
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations

Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services...
Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Arc Acorn]

to check your tiddlywiki version system use the macro 
version
in any standard tiddler and it will render the current version number, you 
can also check the top of the HTML file in a text editor if for some reason 
the macro fails or you just don't feel like using it.

I could not find a copy of Tiddlyfox Alpha3 as the github repo only goes 
back to Alpha6
However I was still able to gather some interesting info:
Using Firefox Esr 17
+ Tiddlyfox a18
TWc - 2.8.x - Saved
TWc - 2.7.x - Saved
TWc - 2.6.x - Saved
TWc - 2.5.x - Saved
TWc - 2.4.x - Failed
TWc - 2.3.x - Failed
TWc - 2.2.x - Failed
TWc - 2.1.x - Failed

+ Tiddlyfox a6
...
TWc - 2.4.x - Saved
TWc - 2.3.x - Saved
TWc - 2.2.x - Failed
TWc - 2.1.x - Failed

Reverting to Tiddlyfox a6 did indeed make saving in 2.4 and 2.3 possible.

However worth noting is that my tests were done with 2.6.5 as it's 
the latest 2.6.x available in the archive:
http://tiddlywiki.com/archive/

However it's worth keeping in mind that early Tiddlyfox versions may cause 
damage to non-standard characters in your TW save files.
(I can't recall off the top of my head which version it was fixed in...)

Thanks for the quick reply Arc Acorn.
 I think I'm running TiddlyWiki 2.6.6  - How do I confirm this?
 I've now regressed to TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3 and can now save successfully.
 So is it  -
 For the 17 esr series and FireFox 21 and under to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3
 For standard FireFox 22 and greater to use TiddlyFox 1.0alpha17
 Alex

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Arc Acorn]

Interesting but not really useful stuff I learned:
TWc 2.3.x Doesn't save with Tiddlyfox a3 but is savable with Tiddlyfox 
a6-a8 and than becomes un-saveable again. 

As far as I can tell Firefox ESR17 + Tiddlyfox a3  18
Both seem to be able to save TW 2.5.x-2.8.x Which are the major versions 
used. 
Really only 2.4.x  2.3.x seemed to be special, and 2.2.x - First did not 
work with any TiddlyFox so in order to use a modern firefox you would have 
to re-enable the privilegemanager or use FF15 or earlier... of course I've 
never seen anyone using those versions... 

Or well with empty TWc, and a fresh copy of ESR 17, Firefox does have many 
odd security prefs and some of which wouldn't surprise me in the least if 
they could break random things like this which is why 
I recommended checking on a fresh profile or a portable copy just to make 
sure.

On Friday, September 6, 2013 3:01:36 PM UTC-7, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Arc,

 I could not find a copy of Tiddlyfox Alpha3 as the github repo only goes 
 back to Alpha6
 However I was still able to gather some interesting info:


 Does this work...
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/tiddlyfox/versions

 ?

 Cheers, Tobias.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[tw] Re: Saving TiddlyWiki using Firefox ESR series

[Arc Acorn]

I just tested with a fresh install 17.0.8esr + TiddlyFox v18 + Empty 2.8.1 
and 2.7.2 both saved just fine
So my suggestions would be.
- Check Firefox addons making sure you don't have anything strange that 
might be causing issues. (I've never ran into anything like that but 
Firefox addons are vast and I'm far from using them all.)
- Make a new fresh Firefox profile and see if it saves (If it dose that 
means there's probably something wrong with your profile settings.)

Outside of that I'm not sure of anything else given that it sounds like you 
can save in Firefox 23 so it's not likely to be system or TW related...

On Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:59:32 PM UTC-7, aikem...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

 Hi All

 I've started to get problems saving my TiddlyWiki. Get this message

 It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
 - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
 and Opera all work if properly configured)
 - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
 - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed


 I've got the Addon TiddlyFox installed.

 I last successfully saved it on 1st August 2013 using FireFox 21. 

 Because of other reasons I've reverted to FireFox esr 17 series. Currently 
 on 17.0.8esr, same problem with 17.0.7esr.

 I've proved that Firefox 23.0.1  saves the TiddlyWiki successfully. So the 
 problem looks like with the esr series.

 Any suggestions?

 Alex

  


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.