Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
soundcheck;541158 Wrote: > Thx for clarifying that. I didn't have a chance too look inside. > > I just took my conclusion from looking at Alsa, where you see three > different sound devices. Usually PC-speaker is not a device under Alsa > on a normal PC. That's obviously different in the embedded world . > > One secret after another gets lifted. ;) > > Cheers By playing around with the Alsa config you can play music on the internal speaker and put the beeps on the stereo system! You can use aplay to send music to the internal speaker and streaming music to the stereo. Lots of things you can do (but probably don't WANT to!) John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5" External Drive
@ Gomez is the samsung s2 still working fine with the touch? ma passport elite 320 does not work very well -- Suti Suti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Lost my database when reconnect usb hard drive on the touch
How did you disconnect your hdd? Did you just pull the plug or have you ejected the hdd prior to that. Simply pulling the plug will give you all kinds of issues, as I have experienced. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
JohnSwenson;541039 Wrote: > Thats not correct, the Wolfson DAC is only used for the internal speaker > used for the bleeps and blurps etc. The AKM chip goes to both the > headphone amp and the analog outs. > > The analog outs have a resistor and one cap in the path between the DAC > and RCA Jacks. The headphone out has a cap, resistor, the headphone amp > and another cap. > > There is no way to have different volume for the headphone RCA outs, > they are the same. > > The headphone out can also be shared by the IR blaster circuit. There > is an enable signal to each (headphone amp and IR blaster). I haven't > looked carefully at that circuit to see exactly what it does. > > The S/PDIF input comes directly out of the main processor as does the > two I2S streams that feed the DACs. All three of these are reclocked > after the processor. There are two clock muxes, one for the Wolfson and > one for the main audio which clocks both the S/PDIF and the AKM DAC. > > I think the headphone amp is running off a separate regulator from the > rest of the audio circuit. I think there is a DC-DC converter to get a > higher voltage for the headphone amp. > > John S. Thx for clarifying that. I didn't have a chance too look inside. I just took my conclusion from looking at Alsa, where you see three different sound devices. Usually PC-speaker is not a device under Alsa on a normal PC. That's obviously different in the embedded world . One secret after another gets lifted. ;) Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to view pics on touch
> I found no way to point the Touch to a particular folder of pictures. > This is a VERY desirable capability if it's going to do a slideshow. You can define the file path in Settings/ImageViewer - if you know it... it's not user friendly, but possible. /media/sda1 usually is the USB drive's root folder. Add the path below this. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
Thanks guys. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
Sorry, don't know how to quote. The shipping box I received from Logitech was about 12 in. x 12 in. x 6 in.; shipping weight was listed as 4 lbs. The product box inside was the 8.5 x 9.75 x 5. Shipped from Olive Branch MS., nearby Memphis., by New Breed Logistics, via UPS. -- mfw mfw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I Just Ordered A Touch...So There!
CharlieG;541131 Wrote: > > > Wait a minute...what just happened here? You are an addict. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78018 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Internet Radio album art dissapeared?
No one? I tried more troubleshooting such as deleting the cache on my mac(running 10.6) then re-installing and rescanning, still nothing? Anyone have any thoughts as to why the internet radio artwork would stop working but all other files from the hard drive work? These kind of things frustrate me. Hopefully someone with more knowledge than I can guide me:) -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78010 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] I Just Ordered A Touch...So There!
I have a Squeezebox Duet in my den which plays through my AV receiver. This sounds good but Ive wanted to set up a two channel stereo, with an additional Squeezebox Receiver, in my home office for quite a while now. So I worked really hard the whole first quarter, put in lots of hours at work, saved all my nickels and dimes, did my stereo research and decided which components to buy. I now have all of the pieces set up in my office save one: an additional Squeezebox Receiver. I have waited and waited while news of stand alone Receivers trickle out of Logitech. My patience has worn thin Logitech! I cant wait any longer Logitech! ILL SHOW YOU LOGITECH! KEEP YOUR STINKING RECEIVER! I JUST ORDERED A TOUCH! Wait a minute...what just happened here? -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78018 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
lrossouw;541118 Wrote: > Anybody got the size and weight of the touch shipping package? Roughly (in inches): 8.5 x 9.75 x 5 Sorry, don't know the shipping weight, it's pretty empty at the moment. -- Steidl Guitars Steidl Guitars's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
I had a look. This is the first time I've looked at this stuff so I'm not sure what I'm looking at just yet. If the unit is already running and I plug in the dac it's assigned card3, but the name is default. The jive_alsa process with device is default is already running. I see above you said this was a virtual card. I tried killing the jive_alsa process for the default device and starting it back up with the usb card, but since it's id is also 'default' I wasn't very lucky. I did play around shutting off and turning on the sound by killing and starting the jive_alsa process. A crashed it a few times doing this :) How can I start jive_also so I can output to my dac given that it can be recognized as: Code: card 1: default [USB Audio CODEC ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 or Code: card 3: default [USB Audio CODEC ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
maggior;540956 Wrote: > Here's the free overnight shipping code for ordering on the Logitech > website: logi_touch. I've seen where others have used it recently. > > Actually, at the moment the website isn't adding a charge for next day > shipping even before I enter the code. Wierd. I think their is a special on shipping charges on logitech.com. So it seems logitech would be best bet assuming the accept my non-us credit card for delivery to a US address. Anybody got the size and weight of the touch shipping package? -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Pseudo-bridge: Touch wired to computer, computer wireless to router
My music library (and Squeezebox Server) is on a Mac connected to the net via an Airport Extreme elsewhere in the house. I would like to run ethernet from the Mac to the Touch. Thus, Touch<--ethernet<-- mac ( ( ( wireless ( ( (Airport<--cable modem etc... Is this possible? If so, some detailed advice would be helpful. Many thanks, Peter -- psp psp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77470 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Request: Simpler Method for Assigning Static IP
You should turn off dhcp on your AP. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Anymore experiences with analogue L/R RCA? When the Touch is available in Sydney, I plan to hook L/R audio to my pre-amp. Rgds Patrick -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Anymore experiences with analogue L/R RCA? When the Touch is available in Sydney, I plan to hook L/R audio to my pre-amp. Rgds Patrick -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Request: Simpler Method for Assigning Static IP
mpower9;541104 Wrote: > If you post an enhancement request at bugzilla, I would certainly vote > for it. It looks like Bug 7502 is already there for the voting. Thank you making me look, it never even occurred to me! -- atrocity atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Request: Simpler Method for Assigning Static IP
Grahame;541103 Wrote: > Does your router allow you to achieve the same effect by > reserving/assigning a fixed IP address to a specific MAC address? Yes. Thank you for the suggestion, but I have an odd situation: My router is not wireless, but it's a nice router that I'm not in a hurry to replace. When I needed wireless, I bought a separate wireless access point and hooked it into the switch. I've found that devices asking for an IP address sometimes "talk" directly to the router (which allows reservations) and sometimes to the wireless access point (which does not allow reservations). Oddly, even wired devices are being assigned IP addresses by the wireless access point. Obviously my screwy setup isn't really Logitech's fault, but it seems like what I'm asking for is a pretty common feature on other devices. -- atrocity atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Request: Simpler Method for Assigning Static IP
Does your router allow you to achieve the same effect by reserving/assigning a fixed IP address to a specific MAC address? On some routers this feature is called DHCP reservation. The touch would then ask for an IP address using DHCP, but the router would always return the same IP address for the given device (MAC address) -- Grahame Grahame's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Request: Simpler Method for Assigning Static IP
If you post an enhancement request at bugzilla, I would certainly vote for it. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Request: Simpler Method for Assigning Static IP
I know that I can SSH into the Radio and Touch and edit a file (which will be overwritten by a factory reset) to assign a static IP. I also know I can do a factory reset, then set up the units from scratch again with my DHCP server turned off (though this doesn't always work if the lease hasn't expired). Am I nuts for wishing that setting a static IP could be as simple as just having another option under Advanced -> Networking? -- atrocity atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
pounce;541025 Wrote: > I'm curious if the song is ending early according to the countdown on > the now playing screen. Yes when it ends early it's both on the screen's countdown and the music gets chopped. FWIW, I took the same USB drive (that is having problems when connected direcly to the Touch) and connected to the PC (i'm on now) and it works fine. I've been on a randon album mix for 30 minutes without a problem. IMHO, It a software problem related to the Touch'd built-in server... Is there a way to get this on the bug list, and what else can I do to help? Tony -- tony.s tony.s's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with "Touch"?
carib;540985 Wrote: > Funny but you guys have my same setup as I do only I haven't connected > my hhd yet until I have the rest of my audio system setup complete. My > Touch arrived early last week and been mostly using my NAS, an SD card > or internet radio. > > I'd be curious to see how the WD Elements Hard Drive powers down when > the Touch is in standby too. And obviously startup again after sleep > mode. Maybe after this weekend I can contribute to this thread. > > In the meantime just gotta love the Touch. Carib...please let me know how things are working when you get it set up. I am really curious to see how others with the same hard drive are making out with the Touch. -- KJAM KJAM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7943 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Internet Radio album art dissapeared?
Hello guys, Was listening to my Touch tonight and suddenly I realized the album art on Slacker or Pandora had dissapeared? I scrolled through the views and nothing, not even the one which shows just the album cover. I then tried playing my own music streamed from my mac and those tracks showed the art just fine like always. I tried reinstalling SS and unplugging the Touch and etc, no luck! I run my Touch via wifi FWIW. Thoughts? -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78010 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
Triode;541037 Wrote: > > Now that we have more applets for 7.5 from Erland and others, I was > thinking we should restart the voting process on the 3rd party forum so > we can promote a few more applets to "recommended" status. This needs > logitech buy-in, but the first step would be users recommending applets > they see as recommended... Any takers? > It feels like it might be worth discussing if we should handle this some other way, it feels like people lost interest of the old thread when it didn't get any more posts. We also need to check if Logitech has enough time to do their part, it's pointless to ask people to vote unless Logitech is actually ready to do the review. "Recommended" could be "Recommended by other users" instead of "Recommended by Logitech" but this also means that Logitech would be willing to accept such change. However, all this is probably better to discuss in some of the development related sections on the forum. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
coma;541070 Wrote: > Thanks for the video post. Looks good to me. I'll start working on the > McIntosh style graphics in case anyone else wants that look. Probably > will have them done and posted just before I have the Touch. Well since I jumped on you I felt a little obligated to make it up. If I only had something better than an iPhone for video. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
coma;541070 Wrote: > Thanks for the video post. Looks good to me. I'll start working on the > McIntosh style graphics in case anyone else wants that look. Probably > will have them done and posted just before I have the Touch. Well since I jumped on you I felt a little obligated to make it up. If I only had something better than an iPhone for video. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
Thanks for the video post. Looks good to me. I'll start working on the McIntosh style graphics in case anyone else wants that look. Probably will have them done and posted just before I have the Touch. -- coma Mac Mini & MacBookPro SBS 7.4 4 SB Receivers 1 SB Controller 1 Boom 1 Radio on order 1 Touch on pre-order. coma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
Not that great a video and note the sound is really poor. Considering what you are hearing is the leak from my headphones! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEoECN2ZBzc I also should have used a track that is a little hotter maybe. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
coma;540961 Wrote: > Thanks for pointing that out. I'll try and be less self centered in the > future. > > Since I haven't received my Touch yet I have nothing to load erlands > patch to. In the meantime I was going to build some McIntosh style vu > meter images, and make them available... but only if the vu meters are > similarly responsive to the VU meters on the SB3 and Boom. > > I couldn't find any video clips of any VU meters running on the Touch, > so thought I'd ask if someone could take a few moments and post a video > of theirs. Sorry I did not notice you mention you did not have a Touch. Assuming you owned a Touch the request seemed odd. I created a quick video with my iPhone only video recording device I have. I will see if I can get it uploaded somewhere for you. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Great stuff JohnSwenson;541039 Wrote: > > The headphone out can also be shared by the IR blaster circuit. There > is an enable signal to each (headphone amp and IR blaster). I haven't > looked carefully at that circuit to see exactly what it does. I've been digging around for this info since I've seen references for some of the older units. If anyone knows were I can find documentation on using lua to send ir codes out the headphone port I'd appreciate it. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
krochat;541032 Wrote: > That's actually Charles Lutwidge Dodgson aka Lewis Carroll in "Alice in > Wonderland": > > http://intranet.dalton.org/ms/alice/7.html > > Regards, > Kim Well, I saw it on Cosmos. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
soundcheck;540814 Wrote: > I am wondering if it is a good idea to take the headphone output as > reference. > As far as I have seen (within Alsa) the headphone out seems to be fired > by a Wolfson WM 8974. > The AKM DAC for the analog out has much better specs. Still I'd guess > that the SPDIF performs best, since also the AKM can't be called a > high-end performer if you look at the datasheet. > > I looked up the specs of both chips. The Wolfson chip specs are not > what I'd call impressive. It seems that they havn't put much focus on > the headphone output. > > The Wolfson is btw running 16 bit and 48khz max. (It seems that they > are running it with a 2nd jive_alsa process - AKM and SPDIF though goes > 24bit and are fired in parallel by Alsa) > > No idea if they add dither to the 16bit signal of the Wolfson after > volume control. Usually this should be done. This would change the > results even further. > > So. If measurements should be done, than SPDIF is IMO the first > choice. > > Cheers Thats not correct, the Wolfson DAC is only used for the internal speaker used for the bleeps and blurps etc. The AKM chip goes to both the headphone amp and the analog outs. The analog outs have a resistor and one cap in the path between the DAC and RCA Jacks. The headphone out has a cap, resistor, the headphone amp and another cap. There is no way to have different volume for the headphone RCA outs, they are the same. The headphone out can also be shared by the IR blaster circuit. There is an enable signal to each (headphone amp and IR blaster). I haven't looked carefully at that circuit to see exactly what it does. The S/PDIF input comes directly out of the main processor as does the two I2S streams that feed the DACs. All three of these are reclocked after the processor. There are two clock muxes, one for the Wolfson and one for the main audio which clocks both the S/PDIF and the AKM DAC. I think the headphone amp is running off a separate regulator from the rest of the audio circuit. I think there is a DC-DC converter to get a higher voltage for the headphone amp. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
erland;541001 Wrote: > I think it's more like a vision to have ALL available, the goal is > probably to make it possible to install every applet on the official > repositories when connected to MySB. Applets not on the official > repositories will probably require a standard SBS. Of course, all > developers can get on the official list, they just have to let Logitech > know they want their repository to be added. Agreed - this is the current target. All applets seen via a clean server (no additional repositories added by the user) should also be available via MySB.com. Note that the selection of whether to include only "recommended" applets or all applets in the logitech hosted list is now performed by the player menu - this is so you can get the same list from MySB.com as a local server (but it means that the option selection or "all 3rd party" on the local server is not used when browsing the list from Touch or Radio) Now that we have more applets for 7.5 from Erland and others, I was thinking we should restart the voting process on the 3rd party forum so we can promote a few more applets to "recommended" status. This needs logitech buy-in, but the first step would be users recommending applets they see as recommended... Any takers? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
Tony T;541020 Wrote: > Then its a bug? I would write the report on bugzilla, but I wouldn't > know how to properly explain this one other than "it doesn't work" :-) The applet list not appearing when using TinySC is a known bug which should be fixed in 7.5.1 (as in I believe I have fixed it, but would be pleased for any feedback) -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
toby10;540968 Wrote: > As Carl Sagan would put it: "it's getting curiouser and curiouser" That's actually Charles Lutwidge Dodgson aka Lewis Carroll in "Alice in Wonderland": http://intranet.dalton.org/ms/alice/7.html Regards, Kim -- krochat -- iZotope SRC (96kHz offline upsampler) -> Touch -> TacT RCS 2.2X -> Convolver PC (w/Acourate filter)-> Apogee Big Ben -> (TacT S2150 -> Vandersteen 3a Signature + TacT S2150 -> TacT W210) krochat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
JohnSwenson;541014 Wrote: > It would take some hacking. There are pads on the board for an RF > connector, you would have to solder the connector onto the board and > unsolder the internal antenna. Then run a short pigtail to a case > mounted standard RF connector. > > John S. What don't you like aluminum foil? -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter -> Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
I'm curious if the song is ending early according to the countdown on the now playing screen. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
Same problem here. It cuts about 30 seconds off some ALAC songs (ripped/encoded by iTunes for Windows) on attached USB drive. I have crossfade off. -- davematthews davematthews's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37754 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
toby10;540968 Wrote: > Yeah, I see this now, MySB is not handling Applets the way it should. > > While Touch is on TinySC it only shows my installed Applets. > > When I switched Touch to MySB it listed all Applets available. > I installed one, Touch rebooted, but now back on MySB > Applet > Installer only shows my installed Applets. > > As Carl Sagan would put it: "it's getting curiouser and curiouser" Then its a bug? I would write the report on bugzilla, but I wouldn't know how to properly explain this one other than "it doesn't work" :-) -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
Mr_Sukebe;540978 Wrote: > That does lead to an interesting question, i.e. can an external antenna > be fitted to the Touch? It would take some hacking. There are pads on the board for an RF connector, you would have to solder the connector onto the board and unsolder the internal antenna. Then run a short pigtail to a case mounted standard RF connector. At one point I did figure out what the connector was, but I don't remember right now. The connector and pigtail were available from several online sources. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
Mr_Sukebe;540978 Wrote: > That does lead to an interesting question, i.e. can an external antenna > be fitted to the Touch? It would take some hacking. There are pads on the board for an RF connector, you would have to solder the connector onto the board and unsolder the internal antenna. Then run a short pigtail to a case mounted standard RF connector. At one point I did figure out what the connector was, but I don't remember right now. The connector and pigtail were available from several online sources. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
;) liked that -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
toby10;540992 Wrote: > > Is it not the goal to have all Applets available from MySB? I think > that's what we discussed in beta. > I think it's more like a vision to have ALL available, the goal is probably to make it possible to install every applet on the official repositories when connected to MySB. Applets not on the official repositories will probably require a standard SBS. Of course, all developers can get on the official list, they just have to let Logitech know they want their repository to be added. I think the vision is that everything should be "Apps" and available on the MySB web site among the current Logitech implemented apps. toby10;540992 Wrote: > > Kinda pointless to promote a standalone server concept of TinySC if one > needs the full SBS to install Applets, IM-very-HO. :) > Sounds like it works with only MySB as you describe it, I suspected you had a SBS running on your network. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
coma;540961 Wrote: > > Since I haven't received my Touch yet I have nothing to load erlands > patch to. In the meantime I was going to build some McIntosh style vu > meter images, and make them available... but only if the vu meters are > similarly responsive to the VU meters on the SB3 and Boom. > Unfortunately they are not, both the analog vu meter and the spectrum meter in SB3 is a bit faster than on the Touch. However, the color screen on the Touch makes its analog VU meter look more appealing. I'm not sure if the problem is that the images currently only can contain 25 angles or if it's caused by the Touch limited CPU. I'm not running TinySC so I'm guessing it might be slow with TinySC active but maybe someone else is running TinySC and can inform us how the VU meters look like when it's active. There is probably a lot of improvement potential regarding the performance, I suspect no one have spent time trying to optimize the code yet. If you like completely accurate VU meters the current version on the Touch isn't good enough IMHO. However, they work good enough if you just want something that moves almost in sync with the music. If you like images, this is the analog VU meter image used for the Touch. It's an image containing the 25 supported meter positions and only two of the sub images are shown side by side on the screen simultaneously. http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/jive/7.5/trunk/squeezeplay/src/squeezeplay/share/applets/WQVGAsmallSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter/vu_analog_25seq_b.png The images created by jstraw looks a bit better IMHO. coma;540961 Wrote: > > I couldn't find any video clips of any VU meters running on the Touch, > so thought I'd ask if someone could take a few moments and post a video > of theirs. > Unfortunately I don't have a video camera that's fast/good enough to record them. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
erland;540986 Wrote: > It will also scan your local network for runinng SBS instances and try > to get applets from them, so if you have a standalone SBS running it > might actually install the applets from them even though you think it's > using MySB. > > This is also why I several times has tried to say that installing a > standalone SBS on a computer temporary will solve this problem. I'm not > sure if MySB supports to install applets, I know there is code in Applet > Installer to handle it if it does but I haven't actually tried it. Yeah, understood. But no local SBS running (other than TinySC) when I just tried it as stated above. So I am certain it was MySB that displayed all Applets and let me install one. Is it not the goal to have all Applets available from MySB? I think that's what we discussed in beta. Kinda pointless to promote a standalone server concept of TinySC if one needs the full SBS to install Applets, IM-very-HO. :) p.s. Your Daylight Clock continues to dazzle & amaze people who see it for the first time. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
Mr_Sukebe;540978 Wrote: > That does lead to an interesting question, i.e. can an external antenna > be fitted to the Touch? Do you mean like these? +---+ |Filename: 90439802.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9759| +---+ -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter -> Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
toby10;540968 Wrote: > Yeah, I see this now, MySB is not handling Applets the way it should. > > While Touch is on TinySC it only shows my installed Applets. > > When I switched Touch to MySB it listed all Applets available. > I installed one, Touch rebooted, but now back on MySB > Applet > Installer only shows my installed Applets. > > As Carl Sagan would put it: "it's getting curiouser and curiouser" > It will also scan your local network for runinng SBS instances and try to get applets from them, so if you have a standalone SBS running it might actually install the applets from them even though you think it's using MySB. This is also why I several times has tried to say that installing a standalone SBS on a computer temporary will solve this problem. I'm not sure if MySB supports to install applets, I know there is code in Applet Installer to handle it if it does but I haven't actually tried it. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with "Touch"?
Funny but you guys have my same setup as I do only I haven't connected my hhd yet until I have the rest of my audio system setup complete. My Touch arrived early last week and been mostly using my NAS, an SD card or internet radio. I'd be curious to see how the WD Essential Hard Drive powers down when the Touch is in standby too. And obviously startup again after sleep mode. Maybe after this weekend I can contribute to this thread. In the meantime just gotta love the Touch. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
That does lead to an interesting question, i.e. can an external antenna be fitted to the Touch? -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
I have both a Transporter and a Touch and I recently did a very unscientific comparison (not a DBT, in fact I didn't even have the sound levels matched) between them. I only compared the analog output of each device and I preferred the sound of the Transporter to the Touch but overall the sound of the two units was very, very close. In fact so close that I attributed the very minor differences to the fact that I was using the Transporter's balanced analog outputs whereas the Touch only has single ended analog outputs. But since the information above is of little consequence to someone looking only to use the digital outputs of either unit here is something that I noticed during my testing and which I haven't seen much information or comments on: While playing back some high resolution (24 bit/96 kHz) flac files the Touch needed to rebuffer the signal much more frequently than the Transporter (both devices were connected wirelessly to my network). The wireless signal strength (as indicated by the Transporter) is approximately 70% and I attributed the difference in rebuffering to the fact that the Transporter has two very nice antennas while the Touch only has one well hidden antenna. My very unscientific conclusions are that: 1) If you are going to be playing many hi-rez files streamed via a wireless network with less than 75% signal strength at the location of the player (especially if the files are going to be streamed as wav rather than flac) I would get a Transporter. 2) If the device is going to be connected via wired Ethernet or you have greater than 80% wireless signal strength at the location of the player I would go with the much less expensive Touch. So in addition to the balanced analog outputs one can also add the dual wi-fi antennas to the list of things that make the Transporter a better piece of equipment. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter -> Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
Tony T;540685 Wrote: > By MySB, if you mean www.mysqueezebox.com, then yes, I already tried > ejecting the USB and logging into mysqueezebox.com. I'm successfully > logged-on as I can access my Apps (i.e. Slacker, Pandora, etc) > > Still "No applets found" if I go to Settings->Advanced->Applet > Installer Yeah, I see this now, MySB is not handling Applets the way it should. While Touch is on TinySC it only shows my installed Applets. When I switched Touch to MySB it listed all Applets available. I installed one, Touch rebooted, but now back on MySB > Applet Installer only shows my installed Applets. As Carl Sagan would put it: "it's getting curiouser and curiouser" -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with "Touch"?
Ferdie;540924 Wrote: > Hi all! > > Hopefully my "Touch" will arrive tomorrow after 9 days of travelling > around Europe courtesy of UPS. To compliment the "Touch" I need a HDD, > anyone got the Western Digital Elements 1TB? Does it work alright? Does > it "turn off" when not in use? > > It's at a good price and on top of that I've got a 10% discount on it > too! > > Thanks in advance!!! > > Ferdie Ferdie...I am using a 1TB WD Elements with my Touch. It does indeed spin down and go into stand-by mode when the Touch is not active...and then spins back up when I wake up the Touch. I am having some trouble with the Touch not being able to connect to the drive from time to time, but I'm not convinced it's the hard drive yet. I think it's a problem with the Touch. Let me know how it's working for you when you get it. I would be curious to know if you have any issues. Kevin -- KJAM KJAM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7943 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
After the first night (a couple of posts up), I let the Touch play for 3 days straight. After the first night, the Touch SQ rounded out with full orchestra (e.g., Symponic Dances on Reference Recordings) sounding very convincing. Last night (a week after the above post) I compared the Touch line-level outputs with the coaxial digital out--> Audiosector S/PDIF DAC. These two sources were connected to adjacent inputs on my preamp, so it was easy and quick to switch back and forth. The line level outputs were a touch louder, but the difference was small and I did not attempt to match levels. I consistently preferred the digital out-->Audiosector DAC over the line outputs. The difference was quite small, but "there" every time. I heard a slight improvement in clarity, for example a little more sweetness in high solo violin using digital out-->DAC. The overall tonal balance seemed unchanged, and I doubt I would be able to tell which source I was listening to if left the room and came back. They're very close, and both very good. Peter -- psp psp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
m1abrams;540954 Wrote: > That is a pretty selfish request. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll try and be less self centered in the future. Since I haven't received my Touch yet I have nothing to load erlands patch to. In the meantime I was going to build some McIntosh style vu meter images, and make them available... but only if the vu meters are similarly responsive to the VU meters on the SB3 and Boom. I couldn't find any video clips of any VU meters running on the Touch, so thought I'd ask if someone could take a few moments and post a video of theirs. -- coma Mac Mini & MacBookPro SBS 7.4 4 SB Receivers 1 SB Controller 1 Boom 1 Radio on order 1 Touch on pre-order. coma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
m1abrams;540954 Wrote: > That is a pretty selfish request. With erlands patch installer it would > take you less time to install the VU meter than it would take for > someone to video record and upload the video to the web. There is > pretty much zero risk involved in installing the VU meter so not sure > your issue with installing it and it would give you a better idea of > how responsive it is. Maybe coma doesn't have one yet, and is still willing to develop the images. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
Here's the free overnight shipping code for ordering on the Logitech website: logi_touch. I've seen where others have used it recently. Actually, at the moment the website isn't adding a charge for next day shipping even before I enter the code. Wierd. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
soundcheck;540925 Wrote: > THX a lot. Plugged the card in a while ago to see that it is recognised > and the module is there. > > > card 0: TXRX [MXC SPDIF TX/RX], device 0: MXC_SPDIF [MXC_SPDIF] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 1: default [USB Audio DAC ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 2: fab4 [fab4], device 0: fab4-ak4420 [] > Subdevices: 0/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > > Somehow the Wolfson is thrown out on aplay -l and shown in > /proc/asound/cards - a bit weired. And the jive_alsa process for > "default" is not coming up (havn't changed the asound.conf yet). I'll > check it out later. > "jive_alsa default" sends out 24bit. Perhaps that'll be a problem on my > PCM 2707-16bit. > > > Did you figure out if there is a way to assign indexes ( as done on non > embedded distros) to the cards? Would be nice to be able to assign the > USB card to e.g. card 2 if 24bit would cause any problems. > > Anyhow. THX a lot for now. I gotta feeling that things get too > complicated. > Jumping from here to there. > > BTW: Did you see that the /proc/asound/version shows 1.0.16 and aplay > --version is giving you 1.0.18 !?!? Hmmh. > > Cheers Was the USB DAC hotplugged or there at boot, you get different results. The Wolfson is the internal speaker so you don't really need it. One of the jive_alsa processes is hard wired to card 2 (which is normally the Wolfson), that might be part of the problem. This looks like the DAC was there at boot which caused the card numbers to be switched around. Try hotplugging which should add the USB DAC after the others so it should not mess up the existing numbers. I think its going to take some udev programming to come up with clean card numbers, thats out of my realm of expertise. Yes if you have a 270x based device you will have to use plug, squeezeplay always sends out 24 bit. This is looking like hotplugging may be the best way to go for now, but that can cause problems after something like a power failure. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
coma;540943 Wrote: > I appreciate the great work going into these custom VU meter displays > and before I install one I would like to see a photo of what they > actually look like running on the Touch. A youtube video clip of the VU > meter in action would be even better. > > If it works as well as the old VU meter on the SB3 in terms of > responsiveness, I would like to take the time to develop and contribute > the png images needed to make a McIntosh style blue VU meter. > > Looking forward to a link to a video of a custom VU meter in action! That is a pretty selfish request. With erlands patch installer it would take you less time to install the VU meter than it would take for someone to video record and upload the video to the web. There is pretty much zero risk involved in installing the VU meter so not sure your issue with installing it and it would give you a better idea of how responsive it is. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with "Touch"?
Hi Ferdie, I am using a WD My Book Essential Edition 1 TB USB drive with the Touch and it works perfectly. If I put the Touch into screensaver (clock) mode by hitting the power button, the attached WD drive spins down after a few (maybe 10) minutes. Reviews on Amazon say that the WD Elements drives have the same power saving feature, but I have not tried that specific WD model with the Touch. It SHOULD be the same. -- active_mann active_mann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37229 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
slate;540790 Wrote: > I have followed this thread with interest although not a Touch owner. > > My Duet is optical connected with my Caiman DAC and I get a short twirp > sound when tracks are changing. Standard redbook into FLAC. > If the Duet keeps the signal rate going between tracks should this not > only happend when I initially starts playing something?! > > I bought the Caiman DAC this christmas and didn't notice the twirp at > first. > I guess that I have to take an evening pulling cables and check this > out and then write Stanley B about it. > > Found the following tidbit on techradar that could explain it as a > Caiman problem: > > Care in component selection extends to the use of reed relays for > muting. The possible drawback of these is that they take a finite time > to > > operate when a track opens rapidly from 'digital black', but Beresford > has ingeniously included enough time delay to allow for this, so you > don't > > actually miss any music (it would only be a milli-second or two, but > the audible result can be an annoying click) Well I think I'd rather have regular FET switches for muting than reed relays - they are faster! - but IMO this is a red herring. There are two things here: 1) DAC's need a muting ciruit to prevent rubbish being sent out when clock lock is lost. The muting circuit should NOT engage when sample rate changes - only if there is no clock... 2) The Touch should never NOT send a clock. Let's see what happens to the bug... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
I appreciate the great work going into these custom VU meter displays and before I install one I would like to see a photo of what they actually look like running on the Touch. A youtube video clip of the VU meter in action would be even better. If it works as well as the old VU meter on the SB3 in terms of responsiveness, I would like to take the time to develop and contribute the png images needed to make a McIntosh style blue VU meter. Looking forward to a link to a video of a custom VU meter in action! -- coma Mac Mini & MacBookPro SBS 7.4 4 SB Receivers 1 SB Controller 1 Boom 1 Radio on order 1 Touch on pre-order. coma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
I don't live in the US but I travel frequently there. It doesn't seems that the Logitech website will allow non-US cards or PayPal, while Amazon does so I use that. Amazon will ship DVDs, CDs and books abroad but not electronics so I send stuff to my hotel in advance and since I usually stay there for 3 or 4 days I need to make sure stuff will arrive while I'm there, so far I've been 100% lucky in terms of things arriving on time and zero DOAs (only exception was my SB Radio power brick but that was easily replaced by ordering one from Mouser.com). I do use Amazon Prime though. This week I'm not on the road but a friend is and I've already ordered my Touch, Amazon claims stuff will be there on time, I'll let you know how this one goes as yesterday Amazon reported no availability in the morning and 2-3 days availability when I checked at night. Regards, -- Sounder Sounder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36170 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
soundcheck;540814 Wrote: > I am wondering if it is a good idea to take the headphone output as > reference. > As far as I have seen (within Alsa) the headphone out seems to be fired > by a Wolfson WM 8974. > The AKM DAC for the analog out has much better specs. Still I'd guess > that the SPDIF performs best, since also the AKM can't be called a > high-end performer if you look at the datasheet. > > I looked up the specs of both chips. The Wolfson chip specs are not > what I'd call impressive. It seems that they havn't put much focus on > the headphone output. > > The Wolfson is btw running 16 bit and 48khz max. (It seems that they > are running it with a 2nd jive_alsa process - AKM and SPDIF though goes > 24bit and are fired in parallel by Alsa) > > No idea if they add dither to the 16bit signal of the Wolfson after > volume control. Usually this should be done. This would change the > results even further. > > So. If measurements should be done, than SPDIF is IMO the first > choice. > > Cheers Just so we are clear - I wasn't recording the headphone audio output - I was recording the line outs but with headphones connected or not to the headphone socket and thus consuming power (or not) Are you saying the Headphone circuit has its own DAC? - I didn't know that... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 802.11n wireless support
Threads like this make me almost wish they had done something like they did for USB. In USB there are "USB 2.0 full-speed" devices that are actually USB 1.1 class "full-bandwidth". 802.11n is a SUPERSET of 802.11g. They are fully compatible. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77978 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 802.11n wireless support
Threads like this make me almost wish they had done something like they did for USB. In USB there are "USB 2.0 full-speed" devices that are actually USB 1.1 class "full-bandwidth". 802.11n is a SUPERSET of 802.11g. They are fully compatible. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77978 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
I tried Prime for a while and found that it really didn't make much difference. I can still order many products and get them within a couple of days with the free saver shipping. I think it's mainly because I have lived in a few locations that are very close to their distribution hubs. I think its a very interesting product. I'd love to see the metrics on the actual usage and how profitable it is for Amazon. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
I tried Prime for a while and found that it really didn't make much difference. I can still order many products and get them within a couple of days with the free saver shipping. I think it's mainly because I have lived in a few locations that are very close to their distribution hubs. I think its a very interesting product. I'd love to see the metrics on the actual usage and how profitable it is for Amazon. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
JohnSwenson;540910 Wrote: > The driver is in the kernel and automatically gets activated when the > USB DAC is attached. > > After plugging in the DAC you can ssh in and do aplay -l to find the > device name. The alsa interface in squeezeplay sends to "default" so > the simplest way to get data to the USB dac is to redefine default to > be the USB DAC. > > Currently in the alsa config file there is a virtual card defined which > clones its input to both the S/PDIF and DAC drivers. That virtual card > is then set to default. You can add the USB DAC to the virtual card as > well and then you have all three playing at the same time. > > One thing to look out for is that the device name and or card number is > different depending whether the DAC is present at boot or hotplugged. So > always do it the same way. > > That should be enough to get you started. > > John S. THX a lot. Plugged the card in a while ago to see that it is recognised and the module is there. card 0: TXRX [MXC SPDIF TX/RX], device 0: MXC_SPDIF [MXC_SPDIF] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: default [USB Audio DAC ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: fab4 [fab4], device 0: fab4-ak4420 [] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Somehow the Wolfson is thrown out on aplay -l and shown in /proc/asound/cards - a bit weired. And the jive_alsa process for "default" is not coming up (havn't changed the asound.conf yet). I'll check it out later. "jive_alsa default" sends out 24bit. Perhaps that'll be a problem on my PCM 2707-16bit. Did you figure out if there is a way to assign indexes ( as done on non embedded distros) to the cards? Would be nice to be able to assign the USB card to e.g. card 2 if 24bit would cause any problems. Anyhow. THX a lot for now. I gotta feeling that things get too complicated. Jumping from here to there. BTW: Did you see that the /proc/asound/version shows 1.0.16 and aplay --version is giving you 1.0.18 !?!? Hmmh. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with "Touch"?
Hi all! Hopefully my "Touch" will arrive tomorrow after 9 days of travelling around Europe courtesy of UPS. To compliment the "Touch" I need a HDD, anyone got the Western Digital Elements 1TB? Does it work alright? Does it "turn off" when not in use? It's at a good price and on top of that I've got a 10% discount on it too! Thanks in advance!!! Ferdie -- Ferdie Ferdie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
soundcheck;540868 Wrote: > Hi John. > > The key question is how do you load the module? Udev? > > Would be nice if you tell me/us quickly how you've done it. ( No > in-depth explanation required). asound.conf is not an issue. > > Cheers The driver is in the kernel and automatically gets activated when the USB DAC is attached. After plugging in the DAC you can ssh in and do aplay -l to find the device name. The alsa interface in squeezeplay sends to "default" so the simplest way to get data to the USB dac is to redefine default to be the USB DAC. Currently in the alsa config file there is a virtual card defined which clones its input to both the S/PDIF and DAC drivers. That virtual card is then set to default. You can add the USB DAC to the virtual card as well and then you have all three playing at the same time. One thing to look out for is that the device name and or card number is different depending whether the DAC is present at boot or hotplugged. So always do it the same way. That should be enough to get you started. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
JohnSwenson;540820 Wrote: > If the Music Streamer II will work with a generic driver (which I think > is the case) then yes it should work with the upgraded version. Its > built into the kernel so I can't just give you a module. Its not out > yet, I have to get it into the developers to get integrated into the > next firmware release. > > Andy said he could make a special test version of the firmware for > those that want to test it. > > John S. Yes the Music Streamer II works with a generic driver. I've used it with Vortexbox Player. I'll look out for the special test version from Andy then, thanks John. -- OGS Touch - Tact RCS 2.0 - Rotel RB-1060 (mod) - Tannoy Sensys DC1 OGS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
m1abrams;540884 Wrote: > I think the Amazon Prime might play a factor. I have similar experience > to Fred with Amazon. Ridiculously slow at getting the product out of > the warehouse. I actually considered getting a Prime account except my > experience with normal orders was horrible. A friend has a Prime > account and loves it, but I do not want to "Pay" just to get the same > service I get for free elsewhere. Getting free 2 day shipping easily covers the Prime membership for me. I also like that I can upgrade to 1 day shipping for $3.99. Last week I ordered a 32GB SDHC card on Monday morning with 1 day shipping and it arrived Tuesday lunchtime. Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.4.1 on Acer Aspire easyStore H340 WHS. Cabin: 1*Touch running 7.5.0 on itself. SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
lrossouw;540746 Wrote: > Which is faster in terms of delivery to a US address at the moment? > Logitech US website or Amazon? If you make use of the free overnight shipping code, Logitech. With Amazon you never know because you have no idea where it will ship from. Search these forums for "coupon code" and you will find the shipping code. There was one for the touch too, but that's expired. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Pushing power button does not start OFF screensaver
You could have added to the Ticket that by stopping a song with "clear playlist" ( I tested it with iPeng) the "off" screen saver won`t stay activated either. Backlight will be on on a black screen afterwards. Or sometimes not any screensaver will be activated. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77990 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
SteveEast;540883 Wrote: > Wow, my experience is the exact opposite. I buy a lot of stuff from > Amazon, both direct and from their sellers. I almost always get a > shipping notice the same day, sometimes in just a couple of hours. I do > have Amazon Prime which gives me free 2 day shipping, but I don't know > whether that makes the delay before shipping any shorter. > > One thing, when you pay for overnight shipping it doesn't mean it will > ship the same day. It just means that when the product finally ships, > it will get overnight shipping. > > Steve. I think the Amazon Prime might play a factor. I have similar experience to Fred with Amazon. Ridiculously slow at getting the product out of the warehouse. I actually considered getting a Prime account except my experience with normal orders was horrible. A friend has a Prime account and loves it, but I do not want to "Pay" just to get the same service I get for free elsewhere. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 802.11n wireless support
The Touch is a 'G' device. It will work with most G and N routers. 'N' routers are backward compatible and work with 'G' devices without interfering with the speed of N to N devices. It is NOT like the old B/G issue that if you put a B device on a G network you bring the whole Network down to B speed. So buy a touch and an Airport Express and enjoy music! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77978 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
FredFredrickson;540871 Wrote: > I haven't ordered from logitech, only gotten a warranty part once (which > was quick), but Amazon is notoriously slow on shipping. I bought a book > from amazon (not a private seller, actually amazon) and got 3 day > shipping. It still took them a week and a half to "ship" it. Then it > took 3 days. I've never gotten overnight shipping, even when I pay for > it. Wow, my experience is the exact opposite. I buy a lot of stuff from Amazon, both direct and from their sellers. I almost always get a shipping notice the same day, sometimes in just a couple of hours. I do have Amazon Prime which gives me free 2 day shipping, but I don't know whether that makes the delay before shipping any shorter. Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.4.1 on Acer Aspire easyStore H340 WHS. Cabin: 1*Touch running 7.5.0 on itself. SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 802.11n wireless support
artmaltman;540876 Wrote: > You can use an "n" router or "g" router. It's just that the > Squeezebox's will treat it the same, as a "g" for now. I wonder why > they have not upgraded to "n" but have to admit that they may be > focusing on the right issues - better product design, ergonomics, > features... > Art What would N give the Touch? Both have the same security support. The "extra" range that an N router gives is not dependent on the clients being N or G. If you think having a G client on an N router would degrade the performance of the N then I would suggest getting a multi-band router. However I do not think the performance impact of a G device is that great. Not like it was with B device on a G network. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77978 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
Voted - I an confirm I also see ths on my Touch + DAC Magic. Although I don't get popping/clicking/etc - just a flicker of the signal indicator light when moving from one 24/48 track to another. -- androidtopp My SB3 is now the least expensive part of my stereo. So I have that going for me. Which is nice. And let's put it more impressively - my SBB is the most expensive clock currently sitting on my nightstand. http://www.last.fm/user/androidtopp androidtopp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19681 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 802.11n wireless support
You can use an "n" router or "g" router. It's just that the Squeezebox's will treat it the same, as a "g" for now. I wonder why they have not upgraded to "n" but have to admit that they may be focusing on the right issues - better product design, ergonomics, features... Art -- artmaltman artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77978 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 802.11n wireless support
Mind you if range is an issue, you might want to go N anyway. I ended up with an N router to get extra range, and now my whole house is wireless, not just one side of it. -- FredFredrickson FredFredrickson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16584 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77978 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
lrossouw;540746 Wrote: > Which is faster in terms of delivery to a US address at the moment? > Logitech US website or Amazon? I haven't ordered from logitech, only gotten a warranty part once (which was quick), but Amazon is notoriously slow on shipping. I bought a book from amazon (not a private seller, actually amazon) and got 3 day shipping. It still took them a week and a half to "ship" it. Then it took 3 days. I've never gotten overnight shipping, even when I pay for it. -- FredFredrickson FredFredrickson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16584 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
Hi John. I had a look at the Touch. The snd-usb-audio module is already there. What's required as far as I see it, is to a. load the module during boot b. and to adjust asound.conf accordingly. The key question is how do you load the module? Udev? Would be nice if you tell me/us quickly how you've done it. ( No in-depth explanation required). asound.conf is not an issue. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Pushing power button does not start OFF screensaver
Several people in different threads have reported that sometimes pushing the power button does not bring up the OFF screensaver. I've filed a bug for this, if you are having this problem please vote for this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16148 In looking into the bug I have been able to duplicate it. It happens when the Touch is not connected to any server (external SBS on LAN, TinySBS, or MySB.com). This can happen if the Touch is not connected externally to anything and no USB drive (or SD card) is inserted, or if TinySBS has died for some reason. For those that are having the problem can you confirm that this is indeed when the problem happens. I have not been able to make it happen if the Touch is connected to a server. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77990 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch showing error whith Flickr or Facebook pictures.
Small update on my side. I had a full restart of the Touch (due to a powerloss) and after restarting it simply worked. Pictures now show fine. So this might be worth trying... -- Sakkerju Squeezebox Server-7.5.1 SSODS *** Squeezebox Radio *** Squeezebox Touch *** WD TV Live Media Player Synology DS209+II - DSM 2.3-1141 - WD Caviar WD20EARS 2TB (RAID1) *** Linksys WRT320N 1Gb Denon PMA1500ae (analog)*** Kef iQ7 S.E *** Denon DVD DBP1610 (blu-ray) *** Sakkerju's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] put harddisc into standby
Thank you John The HD worked on a DreamBox and a FritzBox with hdparm with no problem. So I suggest that it should also work on the SqueezeBox with hdparm (puhh, so much "boxes"...) wimpf -- wimpf wimpf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77932 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
OGS;540632 Wrote: > Very nice! I've also tried to tweak the Touch alsa config to send the > sound to a Music Streamer II USB dac - without luck. This is an > asynchronous device which I understand the current Touch firmware does > not handle properly. > > John, in another post you say that you have hacked the alsa driver to > do proper asynchronous USB. Is this a module or compiled into the > kernel? Would it be possible for you to let us try it? If the Music Streamer II will work with a generic driver (which I think is the case) then yes it should work with the upgraded version. Its built into the kernel so I can't just give you a module. Its not out yet, I have to get it into the developers to get integrated into the next firmware release. Andy said he could make a special test version of the firmware for those that want to test it. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] put harddisc into standby
wimpf;540760 Wrote: > > Maybe one of the Logitech guys is able to post hdparm as working > executable for the squeezebox, because there are no make tools on the > box. > > wimpf It could be either hdparm or sdparm. Can you confirm if one or the other or both work with your drive? The USB drive I have now is not spun down by either of these. It would be nice to get a confirmation before attempting to make one of them. I have a development environment setup so I could compile one of them (I suppose I could do both!) John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77932 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] put harddisc into standby
wimpf;540760 Wrote: > . > Maybe one of the Logitech guys is able to post hdparm as working > executable for the squeezebox, because there are no make tools on the > box. > > wimpf Yes, I suppose it might be possible, or even a third party Applet. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it. ;) Other than simply unplugging the HD every time I'd suggest getting a cheap power strip with a ON/OFF button. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77932 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
I am wondering if it is a good idea to take the headphone output as reference. As far as I have seen (within Alsa) the headphone out seems to be fired by a Wolfson WM 8974. The AKM DAC for the analog out has much better specs. Still I'd guess that the SPDIF performs best, since also the AKM can't be called a high-end performer if you look at the datasheet. I looked up the specs of both chips. The Wolfson chip specs are not what I'd call impressive. It seems that they havn't put much focus on the headphone output. The Wolfson is btw running 16 bit and 48khz max. (It seems that they are running it with a 2nd jive_alsa process - AKM and SPDIF though goes 24bit and are fired in parallel by Alsa) No idea if they add dither to the 16bit signal of the Wolfson after volume control. Usually this should be done. This would change the results even further. So. If measurements should be done, than SPDIF is IMO the first choice. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
Phil Leigh;540781 Wrote: > Defective cars can kill and injure people... But they weren't > deliberately designed to be defective. It was an accident. > > A Wi-FI product is DESIGNED to use wi-fi. Most (portable) Wi-FI > products don't have an alternative connection option. Therefore, not > providing an obvious option to disable the WI-FI on a WI-FI product > cannot be considered negligence or an accidental design oversight and > should not be discussed in the same breath. Is my point. Hi Phil, FWIW, I see your point and (as usual) you seem to make good sense. However, of course the other recent currently-branded Logitech products in the Squeezebox family line, also have both connection options and -do- auto-powerdown the wifi connection with wired use. So,... Oh well. :) Personally I hope Logitech will soon say something on the matter, and/or better still, put an appropriate wifi-poweroff option in the Touch user menus. Especially, since there are some incredibly talented people in this thread that have already found some promising hacks, that seem to prove it can be properly done. I wish Logitech would pay you guys for doing that (or at least give you free Touch's, we could call it further beta-test!) ;) -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
I have followed this thread with interest although not a Touch owner. My Duet is optical connected with my Caiman DAC and I get a short twirp sound when tracks are changing. Standard redbook into FLAC. If the Duet keeps the signal rate going between tracks should this not only happend when I initially starts playing something?! I bought the Caiman DAC this christmas and didn't notice the twirp at first. I guess that I have to take an evening pulling cables and check this out and then write Stanley B about it. Found the following tidbit on techradar that could explain it as a Caiman problem: Care in component selection extends to the use of reed relays for muting. The possible drawback of these is that they take a finite time to operate when a track opens rapidly from 'digital black', but Beresford has ingeniously included enough time delay to allow for this, so you don't actually miss any music (it would only be a milli-second or two, but the audible result can be an annoying click) -- slate Main: Duet -> Beresford Caiman -> Carver A-500x -> B&W 704 Office: Duet -> Technics SU-V50 -> Stax SR84 Pro Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7 w. 7.6 (SQLite) slate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Lost my database when reconnect usb hard drive on the touch
Hello, I've just bought a squeezebox touch and i use a usb hard drive (western digital mirror edition 2x500go, raid 1 , fat 32). I use the squeezbox server of the touch with this hd. The first time i connect my hard drive on the touch (by usb port), she scan all my music without any problems. But now, when i disconnect and reconnect my hard drive, the touch don't find all my music, i can't access to the album, or artist or anything else. I try to restart the squeezebox server on the touch but nothing appends. The only solution i find is to reset the touch to factory parameters, then she re-scan my hard drive. Do you have any solution ? Thanks a lot for your response. -- san_goten san_goten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
Peter314;539892 Wrote: > Have you checked the latest research..? > > http://miscellanea.wellingtongrey.net/comics/2007-05-27--the-truth-about-wireless-devices.png Defective cars can kill and injure people... But they weren't deliberately designed to be defective. It was an accident. A Wi-FI product is DESIGNED to use wi-fi. Most (portable) Wi-FI products don't have an alternative connection option. Therefore, not providing an obvious option to disable the WI-FI on a WI-FI product cannot be considered negligence or an accidental design oversight and should not be discussed in the same breath. Is my point. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Albums with 1 APE/FLAC file + 1 cuesheet file
Hi, I'm looking for reliable information about the support of this format. I had ripped all my CDs in this format. I found information contradictory. Thanks. -- enestu enestu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77981 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to see artworks
I'll try full rescan. Thanks -- Telmail Telmail's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
Peter314;539892 Wrote: > Have you checked the latest research..? > > http://miscellanea.wellingtongrey.net/comics/2007-05-27--the-truth-about-wireless-devices.png Haven't seen that particular comic in a while! Ridicule-tactics are, if nothing else, at least sometimes creative and humorous. :) These types of comics usually at least under their surface suggest/assume, that science is God-like with all knowledge and already knows or has established -everything possible- about the thing in question. Sometimes they also implicitly suggest that product designers and marketers are "scientists" concerned for your health, who _obviously_ would NEVER try to sell you something possibly dangerous! So anybody who is ever concerned, must be ignorant/irrational/crazy etc :D On a less funny note: I remember seeing similar (perhaps even early versions of the same) comics used, to ridicule people concerned about the possible cumulative unhealthy effects of tobacco (and still earlier, for asbestos...) Sometimes you also see marketers, or such ridicule-comics, making fun of concerned consumers by portraying them as older or "mature" (or at least somehow "old-fashioned"), and therefore(!) somehow childish or stupid. Hey after all, why not just buy things now and think later - after all, you & your family all have good health insurance, don't you? ;) -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to see artworks
Telmail;540761 Wrote: > Hi, > I have a Touch wired to a QNAP NAS on wich is running version 7.5.0 of > the Squeezebox Server. > > The Art Covers of my albums do not show up on the Touch Screen. > > I add the album cover as a separate file, named cover.jpg, in the same > folder as the FLAC/WAVE files: > > Artist --> Album --> File1,File2..., cover.jpg > > But the artwork is never shown on the Touch display. > > Any suggestions? you have to run a full rescan to see them -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
