Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS very unresponsive after upgrade from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2
drmatt wrote:
> What surprises me is just that one plugin is able to lock the whole
> server. I didn't expect that to be the case, I thought LMS ran
> multi-threaded and individual plugins wouldn't be able to be so evil.
>
Unfortunately its single threaded so its very easy for a plugin to
accidentally lock the server. The plugin APIs related to scanning is a
bit better today compared to when TrackStat was developed to decrease
the risk of this happening during scanning. Scanning is the only thing
that runs as a separate process to avoid the risk of locking the whole
server. However, the scanning APIs would unlikely help with the
TrackStat issues since people would be equally tired of a scanning
process that takes several hours to complete.
The easy solution is to uninstall plugins that cause these kind of
issues, especially unsupported plugins like TrackStat thats unlikely to
be fixed. For people interested in rating support there is a new Ratings
Light plugin thats actively supported and dont have these kind of
issues. Might be worth to encourage the developer of that to add
features necessary to be able to replace TrackStat.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS very unresponsive after upgrade from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2
drmatt wrote:
> Well I can tell you it's not doing system calls while it's hung, it's
> purely spinning in user code:
>
>
> # strace -fp 24410
> strace: Process 24410 attached
>
> [..tens of seconds elapse..]
>
> ^Cstrace: Process 24410 detached
If its related to the TrackStat plugin it hangs in an SQL statement
executing in the SQLite database code.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS very unresponsive after upgrade from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2
CypherMK wrote:
> So as long as I don't move stuff around, it's ok?
I think so but its about 10 years since I wrote this code so I might
have forgotten about some situation.
CypherMK wrote:
> Is there a way to make this scan to be triggered by CLI or maybe a http
> request? So I can run this at night. My system hangs for 3.5 hours.
>
There is no way to trigger the refresh specifically via CLI.
If the Rescan refresh option is enabled and the Startup refresh
option is disabled it will only run after LMS performs a rescan and this
might solve the problem as long as you dont perform rescans when you
are about to use the system. Could be complicated though because you
probably want to listen to new music immediately after you have ripped a
newly purchased CD. I also believe LMS performes rescans automatically
of a subset of the library in some situations.
The other option is to disable Rescan refresh and instead enable
Startup refresh. This might work if LMS and its computer is always
running and you dont need to use LMS immediately after you have
restarted LMS or the computer running LMS. Could obviously cause issues
after upgrading LMS since LMS might seem to hang after upgrading.
Disabling only the Enable musicbrainz tags option can also help in
some setups since the musicbrainz handling part in the refresh operation
might be the cause to the problem. You should be able to see in the
server.log which part of the refresh operation that takes most time.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS very unresponsive after upgrade from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2
GoodVibrations wrote:
> OK workaround.
> But I guess you'll have an unresponsive system as soon as you scan for a
> new album.
>
There are two options in TrackStat for its refresh operation, one for
refresh at startup and one for refresh after rescan, if you disable both
in TrackStat settings page you should not have the problem that LMS
hangs. The side effect of disabling them is that you will loose some of
the smart logic in TrackStat, primarily related to not loosing data if
you rename or move music files. If you dont rename/move music files you
are probably fine with having both these options disabled.
GoodVibrations wrote:
>
> I don't think a solution is on the horizon.
> Just a few weeks ago, Erland offered to let another take over the
> maintenance of his plugins. So he clearly has no time himself. Don't
> know if he even uses LMS anymore?
>
> So, I'm still on 7.9.1. :-)
>
I use LMS 7.8.0, unfortunately my current setup cant run any later LMS
version. Havent updated the Ubuntu OS for a long time and the old
Ubuntu version Im using breaks newer LMS versions. Unfortunately my
spare time is a bit limited at the moment so I will likely not have the
time to look into this in more detail in the foreseeable future.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeeze on Arch - developer version
Krisbee wrote:
This leaves the question of running a SAMBA server. I believe we only
need to share locally attached storage. As soa-aur on Arch has no
normal user, just root and system user jivelite, you could expose
everything under /mnt/local/ with a samba config that has security =
user and guest account = root. This would make all local data
available as a public share fully rw. That may not be restrictive
enough for some users. It should also be possible enabel/disable any
SAMBA server via the soa-webUI.
The general issue we need to think about when starting to attach a local
storage is that normal people will do stupid things. As an example,
they will disconnect a drive without power off the Wandboard, since
there isn't any power button to use to power off the Wandboard. Don't
expect normal people to know that you need to go into a web interface
with a web browser and select to shutdown the device before you can
remove a drive. The advantage of making it a bit complicated is that the
only people that will use it are people that hopefully know what they
are doing and understand that they need to shutdown the Wandboard before
disconnecting the drive.
It's of course possible to ignore all this, but be prepared that people
who get a corrupt file system because they remove the drive in the wrong
situation are going to complain, especially when it contained the only
copy of their music library because they didn't have a proper backup.
Access to remote storage is good and even recommended, but I agree that
there isn't any need to be able to share it via SAMBA since it's already
shared by the remote device that contains the drive.
Offering a preconfigured SAMBA server has the advantage that there is a
chance people connect the drive permanently instead of disconnecting it
every time they need to add new music. So I think it's a good idea to
also offer a preconfigured/preinstalled SAMBA server if we automatically
mount locally attached drives.
An alternative to all this is to make sure the automatic mounting only
mounts drives as read-only, so there is less risk that the file system
get corrupt if the drive is abruptly disconnected, but in this case it
does not make sense to offer a SAMBA server since you wouldn't be able
to use it to upload new music anyway.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeeze on Arch - developer version
Krisbee wrote:
I don't disagree with any of this, but just to be clear when I talked
about -As soa-aur on Arch has no normal user- I was referring to user
accounts on the system and not the physical user.
Yes I understood that, my comment was more a general comment about
having externally connected local storage than a specific comment to
your previous post.
Krisbee wrote:
If the most likely from of local storage on a Wandboard is one, or more,
USB devices, how do you instill the discipline of the correct procedure
for connecting and disconnecting such devices, and overcome the
disadvantage of having no power button?
I wonder how hot plug based NAS boxes handles it ?
Would it be possible to do something similar to those ?
Or does that rely on specific hardware which is able to give the right
trigger to the OS ?
Krisbee wrote:
There is currently no automatic mounting of locally attached storage.
Feels like it would make sense to at least mount them automatically in
readonly mode ?
Just to make it easier for a non technical user who just want to attach
a local storage ?
I haven't really kept up with the latest goals of the Squeeze on Arch
software, is the goal to create a player or is the goal also to create a
LMS server ?
If the goal is just to create a player it feels like the focus should be
primarily on player related configuration and then mounting of local
storage can safely be a bit more technical, but if the goal is also to
create a LMS server it feels more important to handle these matters in a
more user friendly way.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeeze on Arch - developer version
I'm just going to ask here in case someone has a good idea.
The only computers I have with SD card readers are based on OSX and OSX
can't format/read ext4 as far as I know.
So is there a good way to install Arch or more specifically Squeeze on
Arch on a SD card using an OSX setup ?
I can get around it, because I do have a Wandboard and several SD cards
and I can probably also use a Linux based VirtualBox guest to make a
ext4 based image file of latest Arch distribution, but it just feels
like there must be an easier way which I've missed ?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeeze on Arch - developer version
erland wrote:
I'm just going to ask here in case someone has a good idea.
The only computers I have with SD card readers are based on OSX and OSX
can't format/read ext4 as far as I know.
So is there a good way to install Arch or more specifically Squeeze on
Arch on a SD card using an OSX setup ?
Not sure if this helps anyone, but I thought I'd post it so I at least
have the instructions somewhere the next time I need to do this myself.
I successfully created a normal image file which can be written to a SD
card from Windows or OSX as follows:
1. Install VirtualBox on Windows/OSX and create a new virtual machine
which you install Ubuntu 14.04 in.
2. Follow the following to create an image file
This is for a Wandboard Dual, you need to use different distribution
tar.gz file and different u-boot imx file for other platforms.
It's probably possible to make a smaller image and then resize the
partition afterwards.
Code:
# The following instructions was taken from:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Creating_Arch_Linux_disk_image
# Make sure we have at least 16GB free space in /media/somedir
# Install kpartx
sudo apt-get install kpartx
# Create an empty image file (using 16 GB didn't work because my SD card was
slightly smaller than 16GB)
sudo fallocate -l 15G /media/somedir/archlinux.img
# Create a partition in the image file and make it bootable
sudo fdisk /media/somedir/archlinux.img
1. o: Create an empty DOS partition table
2. n, p, 1, 8192: Create a primary particion starting at block 8192
3. a, 1: Make primary partition bootable
4. w: Write table to disk
# Mount image as /dev/loop0
sudo losetup -f --show /media/somedir/archlinux.img
sudo kpartx -a /dev/loop0
# Format primary partition in the mounted image
sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/loop0p1
# Mount first partition in /media/somedir/tmp
sudo mkdir /media/somedir/tmp
sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop0p1 /media/somedir/tmp
# Retrieve and extract Arch distribution in the mounted directory
wget http://archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-wand-latest.tar.gz
tar -xf ArchLinuxARM-wand-latest.tar.gz -C /media/somedir/tmp
sudo sync
sudo umount /media/somedir/tmp
# Retrieve and write u-boot to the image
wget http://archlinuxarm.org/os/imx6/boot/wandboard/u-boot-dual.imx
sudo dd if=u-boot-dual.imx of=/dev/loop0 bs=512 seek=2
sudo sync
# Unmount image
sudo kpartx -d /dev/loop0
sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0
# We now have a normal image file in /media/somedir/archlinux.img which we
can copy to the OSX/Windows computer and write to a SD card in the normal way.
3. Write archlinux.img to your SD card using your normal Windows/OSX
computer.
4. Insert SD card in Wandboard and let it boot and login via ssh with
root/root and run following receive updates to the U-Boot bootloader:
pacman -Sy uboot-wandboard-dual
5. Follow SqueezeOnArch installation instructions according to the
README.md file:
https://github.com/SqueezeOnArch/soa-aur/blob/master/README.md
The whole process would be a lot easier for Windows/OSX user if step 1
and 2 in the above instruction could be made once by someone and then
redistributed. However, I'm not sure if it was this kind of distribution
of complete images that brought the CommunitySqueeze project down, so I
don't want to do it myself until someone with deeper knowledge has
ensured me there isn't some kind of legal problem to distribute complete
images which I haven't realised yet.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeeze on Arch - developer version
Triode wrote:
If you can stand the two stage process of booting the wandboard into
another distro and then using the create-sdcard script I think it is
reasonably user friendly (it also enables a couple of things which a
straight arch install won't do such as enable ntp and set the number of
cpus for makepkg)
I guess this only works as long as we are using the standard carrier
board ?
If we ever switch to use John's DAC board we don't have the extra SD
card slot ? Or did John's DAC board also contain an extra SD card slot
?
The general obstacle for me is that I have the Wandboard in the case, so
every time I need to re-write the image I have to unscrew the case to
get access to the SD card slot.
Is the image only needed once and after that I can upgrade everything to
latest version through ssh (or even better to update through a web
interface) ?
Or is there something that can't be upgraded via ssh so I often have to
re-create a new image ?
Triode wrote:
My current thoughts are to make jivelite, lms and wandboard kernel
optional installs which are controlled from the web ui. This should
mean that people don't need to ssh to the device to install them.
Sounds good.
Triode wrote:
I'm still thinking about whether we should do a binary repo for the soa
specific components and whether we can make the original install
easier.
Do you mean so they can just be installed instead of compiling them on
the Wandboard as the soa-install.sh and soa-install-lms.sh scripts
currently do ?
So it would speed-up the installation process ?
Or are there other advantages than just to speed up the installation ?
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Triode wrote:
My wandboards are not in a case so I haven't seen this problem :) - but
you need to unscrew the case to get at the cd sd card anyway..
The obstacle in my case might be more related to having to keep track of
two SD cards, I should probably start writing something on them to make
it easier to remember what I have on them, or just keep them in the two
SD card slots and switch when I need to upgrade to a new main image.
The need to unscrew the case has always been the main limitation for me
to upgrade CommunitySqueeze, so I think if you want normal users ( not
that I'm normal :-) ) to upgrade regularly you really need some kind of
Upgrade button in the web interface to make it easy to upgrade to
latest version, kind of similar to how Plugins tab in LMS works. I know
I could upgrade Community Squeeze via ssh, it's just that it's hard to
remember from time to time exactly which command to run when you are
normally using a different OS or Linux distribution.
Triode wrote:
There's no real advantage other than faster install - however if we only
do for the binaries we own then it probably doesn't help with the long
to build lms and kernel. For the moment my aim will be to make the
installation of these driven from the web ui.
For LMS I think you need some kind of progress indication if you do it
from the web GUI, because for an operation which takes an hour people
are going to start wondering if it has hanged if there isn't some kind
of progress indication that indicates that it's still doing stuff. If
you build Logitech's binaries you can also build your own in my opinion.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS F19 Release 1
SamS wrote:
Even a 2-3 sentence summary of where things stand for both hardware and
software would be MUCH appreciated.
Software path 1:
-
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=781656viewfull=1#post781656
Software path 2:
-
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=781642viewfull=1#post781642
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http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101624-Announce-Squeeze-on-Arch-developer-version
No idea regarding hardware.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS F19 Release 1
JackOfAll wrote:
Contact Erland first and ask him if it is OK to borrow clauses 5 and 6
from the ickStream NDA agreement. (Which you already have, because I
know you are a BETA tester.)
Clive this is not directed to you, I'm just quoting your post to make it
easier for people to find your original post, hope that's ok.
First of all, to avoid possible confusion or conspiracy theories, I just
want to be very clear that ickStream has nothing to do with CSOS project
nor anything that has happened to Clive personally. We were looking
forward to see a community player compatible with the Squeezebox
infrastructure and like everyone else around here we all feel very sad
about the current situation both in the project and for Clive
personally.
I think the reference to ickStream NDA was just used as an example of a
typical NDA.
I'm no legal expert and due to this I do NOT recommend anyone to use
text from the ickStream NDA.
If someone really wants to distribute images in private, I'd recommend
using the Warranty and Limitation of liability texts from one of the
available open source licenses. Just make sure you read it and
understand it before you use it and understand that if you are using it
the wrong way it can potentially cause problems both for yourself, your
relatives and people who have previously been involved in CSOS project.
The last part from the 3-clause BSD license looks reasonably simple to
me but since I'm not a legal expert I can't promise it will give anyone
the necessary protection.
For reference, even if I would like to make people happy I would
personally not dare to distribute any images at the moment, the risk of
causing problems for myself, my relatives or anyone who have been
involved in the CSOS project is just too large when I don't understand
what this is all about. I would be willing to share it to a close friend
who I know and thrust but not with someone I don't know.
Clive, if you feel I'm making this sound too scary, please feel free to
correct me.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS F19 Release 1
JackOfAll wrote:
It's been 3 weeks. How long do you suppose everyone should wait?
Well, Triode has been around here a long time and as long as I can
remember he have been very fair to everyone and he have contributed a
lot both through forum discussions, his own plugins but also by helping
other developers and providing changes in the LMS core which we can all
benefit from today. If I would have to pick one person in this community
to thank, Triode would without any doubt be on the top of the list. I
understand that you want an announcement as soon as possible but I'm
honestly prepared to give him the time he and JohnSwenson need to make
the right decision. For all the contributions he has made to this
community and the Squeezebox platform I feel that we at least owe him
that much, if this was an easy decision he and JohnSwenson would have
made an announcement by now, there is obviously something more complex
going on and the exact details are really not our business.
I'm just hoping this will be sorted out in one way or another so the
community can go back and produce a community based hardware player,
independent if it's called Community Squeeze or something completely
differently. I'm not giving up on this idea just because you aren't
interested to be involved in it.
JackOfAll wrote:
Because the waiting and there having been no public announcement from
them, directly led to what happened yesterday, because people believe
that in the current vacuum, I am still Mr Community Squeeze. And I
remember saying to you how I expected there to be confusion if I
continued posting in this thread, and *you* encouraged me to do so. Yet
another mistake!
I'm really sorry about what happened to you yesterday (whatever that
might have been) but I think you have made it crystal clear that you are
no longer Mr Community Squeeze.
Hopefully people will be able to accept that and not contact you about
Community Squeeze in the future. If people didn't understand it when you
posted a few weeks back I think you made it extremely clear with your
posts yesterday and today so now there shouldn't be any doubt.
If you want to make it even more clear, you can put a link on
www.communitysqueeze.org that points to 'your post from yesterday'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=781385viewfull=1#post781385)
so people who doesn't follow this thread but just access the
communitysqueeze.org web site also get the necessary information.
Sometimes the amount of posts in this thread is a bit overwhelming for
people who only visit the forum once a week and I guess they
theoretically could have missed your announcement a few weeks ago.
Once again, thanks for all your efforts and hopefully things will be
sorted out in one way or another so you can go back and enjoy being part
of this community.
Sorry if I've caused unnecessary confusion with any of my posts during
the last two days. I'll try to avoid posting more in this thread in the
near future since my participation currently just seems to cause more
irritation.
Now I'm crawling back to my cave to have some fun and do some more music
related development...
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Let's focus on the facts, JackOfAll have clearly announced that he don't
plan to continue as packager/developer in the CSOS project, he did that
weeks ago, yesterdays post was just a clarification. We don't know the
exact reasons for it and frankly it's none of our business, if JackOfAll
doesn't want to continue that's his decision and he doesn't have to tell
us exactly why. If JackOfAll still wants to continue posting in this
thread and other CSOS related threads, we should encourage him rather
then question if he is back in the project. If he sometime in the future
would decide to join the project again, I'm sure he will let us know and
in that case we should of course welcome him back.
I'll consider Community Squeeze to be dead when we have also heard from
Triode/JohnSwenson that they don't plan to continue, the fact that they
are silent is probably because they are currently considering what
options they have. From my perspective there are a lot people around
here with a lot of knowledge, we shouldn't let the idea with a community
based player die because one project member doesn't feel it's fun to
work on it anymore. If someone have experience with software packaging
or driver development and want to help it's probably a good idea to
contact Triode or JohnSwenson and let them know.
It might sound strange that the following comes from me, but I'm going
to say it anyway since I've personal experience in the area.
I think generally we all have to realise that most(all?) third party
developers around here spend their spare time to improve our music
listening experience. Some do it for free because they like the
challenge and the idea to do something for the community while others do
it for a small compensation through commercial apps/plugins, but in all
cases we are talking about people who prefer to prioritise their spare
time to be spent on things that prolong the life of the Squeezebox
universe.
It's easy to forget about this when you want a new feature or you are
frustrated because your system doesn't work or you are tired of waiting.
Let's be honest, it's our own individual choice if we want to stay in
the Squeezebox universe and this community or if we want to move on to
Sonos and other similar systems. If we choose to stay in the community,
we should also make the third party developers feel appreciated and
consider spending our own time to help them with whatever we can, it
might be as easy as testing a new software version or giving feedback on
a solution to guide them in the right direction.
There are some people who believe this is all about money, please
realise that this is NOT the case. With money the demands, critique and
expectations increases rather than decreases, so when you decide to
start asking for money you also have to be prepared to handle requests
from users and helping users who don't get everything to work. In this
regard money can actually make the situation worse if the main problem
is that you feel that people have too high expectations or you feel a
demand from them who you can't fulfil.
I would personally prefer to see a commercial community based player
rather than no community based player at all, but I also understand what
kind of commitment this would require from the people behind it so I'm
not going to ask for that, I'll instead leave it up to the people behind
it to decide what's appropriate. In my mind it doesn't matter if it
costs money, it doesn't matter if costs as much many as other commercial
alternatives out there, it doesn't matter if the people behind it earn a
lot of money on it, but it do matters that the people behind it is happy
so let's leave the choice to them and let's not push them into a
particular direction.
My experience tells me that in these kind of projects, limited time is a
lot bigger problem than limited budget. You might think that money could
solve this, but in reality it's hard to earn enough money so it's
possible to quit your day job, the community is just too small for this.
Even if it would be possible to earn enough money to quit your day job,
most people also have a family to think about and have to think about
how the situation is going to look like 1-2 years in the future.
Now, please remember this and let's try to not push Triode and
JohnSwenson for an answer right now, if they need time to think about
their options, let's give them some time.
JackOfAll, thanks for all your efforts in the Community Squeeze project.
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rulof72 wrote:
Is there any source at all for the images?
They were previously available through www.vacuumtube.org.uk but that
doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
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rulof72 wrote:
Is it just me or is Communitysqueeze.org gone? What happened?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=779064viewfull=1#post779064
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JackOfAll wrote:
I suppose, I could hack something together, using both sdcard slots.
Just have uboot, 1k in on the cpu card sdcard, (using a very small
capacity sdcard), so it doesn't need to ever be removed, pointing to
mmcblk1 for boot/root partition. ie. the OS on the carrier board slot
and just uboot on the cpu board sdcard slot. This all comes down to
time. There is never enough time.
For what it's worth, something like this would make me upgrade my
Wandboard a lot more often.
However, I'm not sure if it's worth it if the problem will be solved
when we all are using the Community Squeeze DAC board ? Or will we also
have to open the box to upgrade the SD card with the Community Squeeze
hardware ?
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JohnSwenson wrote:
The CSP hardware does not have an accessible SD slot. So to swap a card
you have to take the board out of the box.
As long as we have an easy way to do software upgrades directly on the
device, for people who don't know how to use SSH and Linux, this
shouldn't be a problem.
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praganj wrote:
So what is the situation now with Community Squeeze ?
You will find the latest information from one of the project members in
the following posts:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=778440viewfull=1#post778440
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=778821viewfull=1#post778821
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=778883viewfull=1#post778883
We will have to wait and see how it evolves but from what I've seen
there is nothing that indicates that the project won't continue. People
come and goes in open source projects, if one leave the project that
position is usually replaced by someone else if there is a big community
around the project and the project has a potential, which definitely is
the case with Community Squeeze.
praganj wrote:
Are there any official download links for OS releases ?
Not sure if they are official, but the latest images are as I've
understood temporarily available on vacuumtube.org.uk
praganj wrote:
Any chynce to get F20 ?
Yes, but probably not until the remaining project members have decided
how to proceed.
There is no reason to worry at the moment, just give them some time to
adapt to the new situation instead of demanding answers right now.
As you can see from the latest posts in the following thread,
JohnSwenson is definitely still working on the hardware side of the
project:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97881-Community-Funded-Squeezebox-Replacement-Would-you-be-interested
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JackOfAll wrote:
I think it may be best to avoid any confusion if I refrain from posting
in any CS thread.
You are probably one of the people who know most about CSOS, so I would
personally hate if you stopped posting just because someone get a bit
confused.
From my perspective I think you should continue to post as much as you
like and we should all appreciate the fact that you want to continue
posting things related to the project even after you have retired.
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JackOfAll wrote:
What that screenshot shows is squeezelite running on the single core
BeagleBoneBlack, upsampling all day long to 384k, and squirting data out
of the USB port, completely glitch free! No smoke and mirrors. No
trickery. No overclocking the CPU. No RT patch set. (Standard upstream
Fedora voluntary PREEMPT.) Just a minor USB driver optimisation, (which
isn't really an optimisation considering one has to do without DMA
transfers on the BBB to have working USB at all), and that soxr patch to
enable SIMD. Sure the 80% looks bad, but there is still enough resource
left for the USB port overhead and ethernet.
Bottom line, for £35 quid, it's a miracle and something you'll never get
close to with the Pi.
Does this mean that a BeagleBoneBlack is the best(most affordable)
solution for people who want a player to connect to their external USB
DAC ?
I guess a Wandboard is still preferable if one wants to run LMS directly
on the box ?
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JRatron wrote:
it appears that nobody else is taking ownership, carrying the torch and
driving this project forward now.
Just give it some time, I'm sure things will be sorted out eventually,
in one way or another.
4 days is a short time in a community project where people might be
restricted to work on the project during their spare time and also need
to have time for their day work, family and other matters. We need to
give Triode, John and other people involved in the project some chance
to adapt before requiring answers on how the project will proceed.
I know it's frustrating but we need to remember that all these people
have spent a significant part of their time and knowledge to make it
possible for us to enjoy the music on our DIY hardware. From personal
experience I know that it feels a lot better to do something on my spare
time because I like to do it than just because someone else wants me to
do it.
The best we can do at the moment IMHO is to encourage JackOfAll to
continue participating in the Community Squeeze related discussions in
the forum, he is probably one of the most experienced people in the
area.
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JRatron wrote:
Sounds like the most helpful thing I can do to help the project for now
is to bugger off and stop stirring the nest.
Or even better, use one of the supported DIY hardware devices with the
CSOS images to enjoy the music and report things that doesn't work or
things you think can be improved.
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Kuro wrote:
May I suggest anyone using CSOS whether it is on Wandboard or another
platform donate £10 to Clive? I'm happy to do that if you can give me
your Paypal acct for sending the donation.
Please read the previous posts on this topic unless you think they have
been clear enough on this already:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98544-Community-Squeeze-OS-R3p=751424#post751424
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1p=778846#post778846
Money isn't always the best way to show your appreciation. A lot of us
(including myself) would happily donate if the project members ask for
it, but let's try to avoid pushing money on them if they don't think
they want/need it themselves.
I suspect the people in the project would appreciate a lot more if you
contributed your time by using the CSOS images to enjoy the music, by
reporting bugs, by helping with documentation, by helping other
community members with problems with CSOS, by expressing how good you
think the currently produced software is or by expressing what you think
should be changed to make the product even better.
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JackOfAll wrote:
With immediate effect, I announce my retirement from the Community
Squeeze project.
Thanks for all your efforts, everything you have done for the community
is greatly appreciated by all of us.
Does this affect all your involvement in Community Squeeze project or
are you only retiring from the software packaging part ?
Just asking to better understand if this is just a way to make it
possible for you to focus on other areas, such as software development
specific to the Community Squeeze hardware ? Or is that part already
finished or managed by someone else ?
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JackOfAll wrote:
The point is this, that while it's possible to make anything work on
anything, given time and resource, things don't just work.
This is of course your choice, since it's your valuable time being
spent, but if you have limited time my advice would be to purely focus
on making CSOS work with John's CSOS hardware. After you have got that
working, you can always later start spending time on making CSOS work
with other kind of hardware (if you like).
I guess this might also be what you are saying, but I just wanted to
ensure you that there are people that support you if you want to purely
focus on things that will get us closer to a working setup based on
John's CSOS hardware.
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JackOfAll wrote:
Code:
sudo yum install http://the.web.server/repo-package.rpm
sudo yum install logitechmediaserver
Would it be possible to put this in the FAQ and just clearly state that
it will add your third party repository and isn't part of the official
Community Squeeze distribution ?
Just asking because I'm pretty sure I'll have a hard time to find this
post the next time I want to install LMS on the Wandboard.
It would be even better to add it as a checkbox/button in the Community
Squeeze administration UI, but I can understand if you don't want to do
that considering the cirrcumstances.
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Chunkywizard wrote:
I ran into this today as I update to the latest R7 image. I downgrade as
Clive suggested and everything is fine. One question, how do we know
when it's safe to update LMS to the latest build so that it works with
your plugins?
The previous problem is corrected in latest 7.8.1 version of LMS so at
the moment TrackStat (which didn't work in the early 7.8.1 version)
works again.
However, Michael are currently cleaning up LMS and removing old stuff,
due to this it's very possible that my plugins are going to break now
and then. I'm not using 7.8.1 much myself since my production
environment is based on the official 7.8.0 release so I can't promise
I'll notice the issues immediately. We have been used to the 7.7.x betas
being stable but it looks like 7.8.1 is different in this regard as it
includes some API related changes which is going to break third party
plugins now and then.
So, if you want to be sure to always have a reliable system, you need to
use the official 7.8.0 release or the latest 7.7.x beta.
If Community Squeeze project want to ensure to always have a stable LMS,
it should probably base it's builds on 7.8.0 at the moment and switch to
7.8.1 after a few months/weeks when most clean-up work has been
finished, but on the other hand it's very good for mherger to get
information immediately when something breaks.
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Just wanted to report that the installation of
CSOS-Wandboard-Dual-F19-R7-20140329-1.img on my Wandboard Dual worked
very good after I had realised that my 4GB SD card was to small and a
8GB is needed as minimum now.
Overall, really great work!
Some ideas for future improvements follows below, feel free to ignore
them if you don't feel they are relevant. I don't need anyone to respond
to this post, just wanted to post some thoughts from my setup
experience.
1.
Not sure if this is possible but it would be great if the IP-address of
the wandboard could be discovered automatically. Maybe having a simple
app you can install on a computer or do something based on javascript
which can run in a browser. It's not a problem for people who know how
to run a network scanner or look in router logs, but for people who
haven't connected the wandboard to a TV it's going to be a challenge to
configure it. However, it's not important if we are mainly targeting
Linux/computer geeks.
2.
The port number shown in the quick start guide indicates port 8080 but
the one that seems to be used now is 8081. Since it's both in the
screenshot and text of the QuickStart guide it's probably best that
someone that can provide fresh screenshots updates it.
3.
It took a while until I realised I had to click Interface up to
activate the WiFi, maybe this should happen automatically if you specify
a SSID and WPA Password ?
4.
Squeezelite player was by default configured to use the analogue output
even if I have a USB DAC connected. I guess this won't be a problem with
the real Community Squeeze hardware but for someone using a Wandboard if
feels like it would be preferred to set it to the DAC by default if a
DAC is detected. If no DAC is detected it's of course correct to set it
to use the analogue output by default.
5.
SqueezeLite started automatically but SqueezeServer didn't. This is of
course by design since it's a player project, but the issue it caused in
my setup was that when I started SqueezeServer it was started with no
player because SqueezeLite had already started and discovered the LMS
that executes on one of my other servers. Not a main problem for someone
used to Squeezebox and LMS and it's works the next time I restart
SqueezeLite, but it would be good if it could switch to the
SqueezeServer on the wandboard automatically when it's started. I
understand it can cause side effects but maybe it would be possible to
either automatically restart SqueezeLite after SqueezeServer has started
or as an alternative at least give the user a popup about it.
6.
The network share mount configuration is going to be hard for a non
Linux user to use, we should as minimum show some sample values for the
Network share field in the online help for various file system types.
7.
Generally the whole configuration interface feels a bit technical for
people not used to work with devices and Linux. Possibly it can be
solved by enhancing the online help but it currently feels technical
even for me who is somewhat used to this stuff. Feels like some kind of
automatic default/simplified installation wizard would be preferred and
separate the advanced settings in a separate section, kind of similar to
how LMS installation wizard works. Of course, this only matters if we
are targeting non DIY/Linux geeks, if we are only targeting people used
to Linux and/or DIY devices it shouldn't be a bit problem.
8.
I just realised that when I've used the USB port for the DAC I have no
way to connect a keyboard or IR dongle. I guess this is also something
that's going to be solved with the real Community Squeeze hardware and
shouldn't be a main priority to solve for people with the default
Wandboard, but in case some third part developer is interested in doing
something it would be good to be able to control JiveLite using a smart
phone/tablet in this kind of setup. Not sure if there might be something
that can be easily installed directly on the wandboard to solve this ?
Would vnc or something similar work to be able to access it with a
virtual keyboard on a smart phone/tablet ? In reality the only thing I
want to do is to configure the language and setup a Now Playing screen
saver. Maybe this could even be done via the web interface so you don't
need to connect a keyboard if you just want a Now Playing screen on the
TV ?
9.
If we want to simplify the LMS setup it would be good if it could
automatically select the disk I've mounted via the web configuration
interface as music folder so I just can click Next if I'm happy to use
that. The current behaviour is fine for people used to Linux but the top
level Linux folder structure showed in the first step of the LMS
installation wizard can probably look a bit scary to non Linux users. In
similar fashion it would also be good if a playlist directory existed as
default if you like to store the playlists on the SD card so you don't
have to login via ssh to create a suitable directory.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS F19 Release 1
JackOfAll wrote:
I'm going to create an unstable repo and move todays LMS 7.8.1 packages
there. Until I do that, I'm suggesting that no-one install the latest
LMS packages from the testing repo.
What you normally get with CS testing repo, is the equivalent of what
other people would call stable. I'm aware of issues with these latest
LMS packages, which means I don't want people to install them thinking
they are up to the quality of the packages normally found in the testing
repo.
I guess you are already aware of this but if you install the
CSOS-Wandboard-Dual-F19-R7-20140329-1.img image you get broken LMS 7.8.1
automatically. Well, broken might be the wrong word, but they contain
some API changes mherger introduced after the 7.8.0 release which breaks
some third party plugins. As an example, many of my plugins doesn't work
with the CSOS-Wandboard-Dual-F19-R7-20140329-1.img image due to this.
It's not a problem for me, just wanted to make sure people who have
installed this image are aware of it.
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Any way I could get a link to the images ?
The ones on the web site still just shows permission denied error.
I have a Dual if that matters.
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Triode wrote:
Lets create a list of things which don't work and then I can look at
this. I never used number buttons to jump to locations on the lists so
this has never been something I've looked at. Agree we need to do
something for the search input.
For searching, we really need something similar to LazySearch plugin on
ip3k devices.
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JackOfAll wrote:
It's a non-issue, as far as I am concerned. If other people want to make
it an issue, they can go complain elsewhere or write their own.
As long as Java is only used for the configuration GUI, performance
shouldn't be an issue. As already mentioned, you probably configure it
once in the beginning and then rarely enter the web gui.
If someone wants to document instructions how to upgrade it manually, is
that something that can be put on the Community Squeeze web site or do
you prefer that it's placed on a third party site ?
JackOfAll wrote:
We'll see what happens. If someone dares to take the CSOS image,
pre-packages the Oracle JVM and supplies that with it, that is for them
to deal with any potential consequences, not me. They have been warned
that a), they had better remove the CS name from everything to do with
that image and that b), *their* image had better not be pointing at our
repo for updates.
Regarding not pointing to your repo for update, is this also the case
for people who decide to setup Oracle JVM themselves without
re-distributing their changes ?
Just a thought, if you want to avoid people to use CS name for their own
images you should probably make sure that's clearly specified in the
license.
If it's defined in the license that changes can't be redistributed as
custom images under CS name, people tend to avoid it because they don't
want to risk legal action. It also makes it a lot clearer what you are
allowed and not allowed to do as a third party.
The same also applies to the usage of the repository.
I'm guessing your reasoning in both cases is that you want to avoid the
risk that people using third party images ask you for support ?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3
JackOfAll, what's the state of the fstab/mounting GUI for network
drives, do you want feedback on the GUI at this stage or is it still
work in progress so people should wait a bit before commenting it from a
user/GUI perspective ?
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JackOfAll wrote:
I have no intention of having storage on the device for media. Always
has been and remains my intention that the music library is network
attached.
Just out of interest, do you feel that you need the SSD mainly to speed
up restarts/upgrades during development ?
I'm just asking because with the exception for development and usage as
local media storage, I can't see any reasons why the device would need a
fast local storage.
Maybe I'm missing some obvious use case ?
JackOfAll wrote:
I want to run the board and the drive from a single 5V power supply and
have it in a single enclosure, without having to be concerned about
ventilation.
Do you have any idea how the planned enclosure is going to be able to
handle ventilation/cooling ?
I'm guessing it won't have a fan, but does it have room for decent heat
sinks or is it going to be pretty tight ?
For me personally, even if I do have a NAS and 24/7 server, I'd actually
like the idea of having one player which could act as a server to the
other players. Basically, separating the music stuff as a fairly closed
system which doesn't get disturbed by OS upgrades and other maintenance
work on my normal server. So far the issue has always been that it has
been hard or expensive to accomplish with decent performance and still
make it completely silent, so I've just kept using LMS on the 24/7
server and served the music files from the NAS.
Also, related to all this, does anyone have any idea if people should
worry about audio disturbances if putting HDD/SSD in the same box as
John's audio circuits ?
I haven't really done any comparisons myself, but I've read some of the
threads in the audiophile section where it sounds like any electronics
(especially stuff that physically moves) and LCD displays should be as
far away from the audio signal as possible. Having a HDD in the box,
sounds a bit worrying if this is the case.
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JohnSwenson wrote:
The current design is using a Hammond 1455T1601 extruded aluminum
enclosure. The board slides into slots in the side walls. With the end
panels in place it is completely enclosed no ventilation at all. The
wand module and the carrier board are going to take about 2 watts which
will work well with the aluminum enclosure which will act as a heat sink
for what is inside.
This design was never designed to have an additional large heat
producing device inside. The idea was that if you wanted to use a large
drive that uses a lot of power that you plug it into the the USB port
and use the power supply and heat removal mechanism that came with the
drive.
Having to support power hungry drives and get rid of their heat would
compromise the design in several ways by adding increased electrical
noise in the box, possible fans that not only add electrical but also
acoustic noise. I'm trying to produce the best sounding network music
player I can with for low cost, low power and small size. Internal
drives tend to conflict with that.
I'm still interested to hear if JackOfAll had a reason for having a
drive that isn't related to local media storage and development speed.
With the exception for this, my feeling based on your post is that it
might be better to look into solutions where we can have an external
drive in a separate stackable enclosure. My personal worries with an
external drive is that it's going to look ugly, but if we can come up
with a stackable solution that looks decent this wouldn't be the case.
The price of a stackable drive solution would of course be higher due to
the extra box, but it would make it possible to feed the drive enclosure
with separate power and select an enclosure for the drive that has
better ventilation.
This way it's also possible for people to buy player box + drive box in
their main listening room and only buy the player box for the additional
rooms.
I kind of like the idea of having a solution that's expandable instead
of building a do it all solution that solves all possible needs by
itself.
Is there any stackable solutions that would work with the Hammond
1455T1601 enclosure ?
Maybe it would even be worth to consider to have a eSATA connection on
the back of the enclosure to indicate to people that it's designed to
have the drive outside the box and not inside the box ? Or would that
require a lot of changes ?
I also agree with JJZolx, if the board isn't suitable to handle a SATA
drive you should probably not offer an option to do so, it will just
cause you trouble because people are going to try to use it the wrong
way and then complain when it doesn't work and can't fulfill their
expectations.
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JohnSwenson wrote:
There is no way an eSATA connector is going to fit on the back panel, it
is already completely maxed out. The only way it could fit is to get rid
of connectors that are already there. There are a few jacks that are big
enough that a eSATA would fit in their place:
ethernet jack
full size USB jacks
XLR jacks
I don't think you want to get rid of the ethernet jack, a network player
without the ethernet jack is not a good solution. If people are willing
to use adapters for all their USB devices we could get rid of the full
size jacks, but again I think that would cause more trouble than its
worth. If I take off the XLRs I'll get shot. So it doesn't look good for
an eSATA jack.
What advantages do you get for using a SATA drive instead of a USB
drive? Do people really need the speed difference? Or is it cost?
Sorry, I got so focus on SATA that I forgot about USB, a stackable drive
connected with USB should of course be fine.
The speed difference shouldn't be an issue in this case, IMHO.
Personally, I suspect having the internal SATA connection is going to
cause you more support issues than benefits, I would instead suggest
focusing on making it attractive to use an external USB drive. If you
want to keep the internal SATA connection that's fine, but I would be a
bit careful to announce its existence too much, people are are just
going to try to connect drives it isn't suitable for. It's better to
make it attractive for them to use an external drive, for example by
supporting some kind of stackable drive solution.
One issue that needs to be handled somehow if we start recommend people
that they can connect a drive is also that it really needs a soft power
off button, else people are going to turn it off by disconnecting the
power and that can easily trash a file system or cause data loss with a
local drive, at least if it's formatted with a file system without
journal. This is probably not related to SSD/HDD choice, I'm just
mentioning it because it's important to handle if we start announcing
that people can connect a local media drive directly to the box
(indpendendent which connection type we offer them).
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JackOfAll wrote:
Thank you, to everyone who has expressed interest and support. It's
probably going to be a few weeks until we know the final numbers, lead
time, final pricing, and how many beta boards will be available for
purchase. At that time, we'll make an announcement, start a list
allocating the boards, and a waiting list just in case anyone drops
out.
I guess you are already aware of this and it it's already in the plan,
so I apologize if I'm suggesting something obvious. It would probably be
a good idea to briefly list what kind of stuff you want to be verified
during the hardware beta so you can ensure the beta testers will cover
as much as possible.
As an example, I guess you are going to want some testers who use an
external DAC, some testers who use the internal DAC connected to a
high-end amplifier and some who are going to use the internal DAC
connected to an amplifier in the $500 price range (or maybe even
cheaper). There are probably also other aspects, like testing with LMS
on the Wandboard with a USB drive connected, testing with LMS on a
NAS/computer, testing with IR remote, testing synchronization with other
Squeezeboxes,
The above is just samples, I'm not sure everything is relevant to a
hardware beta, for some stuff it might be enough if the tester have a
Wandboard with the default carrier board.
This way it will also be easier for the beta testers who volunteer to
decide if they will be be useful or if it's better if someone else who
is able to do more productive testing takes their place in the queue. As
you have realized, you won't have any problem to get enough beta
testers, the challenge is to pick the right ones so you cover as much as
possible of the stuff which is hard for you, Triode to John to cover
yourselves.
With about 15-20 testers it's going to be important that there are some
variations of how the testers use the board, else the testing isn't
going to be as broad as needed to ensure you cover all angles that needs
to be covered before the second generation board is released.
I'm not sure if you are looking of a broad range of different type of
testers or if you are only looking for testers who can verify the
audiophile characteristics ?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3
JackOfAll wrote:
Obviously everything on the board needs to work, whether that be the USB
port, ethernet port or SPDIF out, but this is primarily about the
on-board DAC analogue out.
Ok, in that case, feel free to drop me from the list in case there are
other audiophiles who want want a test board instead of me. I'm still
interested to get one and pay for it if there are boards available, it's
just that I feel that I'll probably not be that useful if it's primarily
high-end audiophile testing which is in focus.
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If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
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(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
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JackOfAll wrote:
The $200 figure I have used above, is just a number I have plucked out
of thin air, so it is not a fixed and final figure. But on the basis
that it is the number, my question would be, how many of you, (if any),
would be prepared to pay $200 for a CSP1 beta board, which will also
include a complimentary CSP2 production board when they are
produced.
Count me in if there is room for one more.
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If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3
JackOfAll wrote: I should have been a little more verbose. It's not so much that it's not working because it is broken There is obviously a SATA port on the carrier board and the traces are routed over the EDM connector, but unless the CPU on the CPU board supports SATA, (which as Paul says, the Solo and Dual Lite do not, you need a full Dual or Quad imx6 CPU for SATA support), the port on the carrier board won't actually work. Was the plan to have a SATA port on the Community Squeeze carrier board ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98544 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3
Some feedback on the CSOS-Wandboard-Dual-R4-20130510-2.img.7z build follows below. I realize some of this isn't implemented yet, I'm just posting it to give you the ideas in case you haven't already thought about it. 1. First of all, really great work, for someone who knows what they are doing it worked perfectly. 2. The quickstart guide didn't contain any information about the timezone configuration, it's probably a good idea to recommend users to set the timezone through the CSOS web interface. 3. In the LMS (Squeeze Server) configuration page, or even better on the Home page, of the CSOS web interface it would good to have a link to LMS web interface in case it has been started. 4. The USB keyboard I had connected didn't work in JiveLite at the initial boot, I'm not sure if it was a one time thing but after rebooting CSOS it started to work. 5. At first when I started to browse music through JiveLite it was connected to my SheevaPlug instead of to the Wandboard. I'll experiement a bit more but my expectations if I've configured CSOS to run LMS and Squeezelite would be that SqueezeLite is connected to LMS running on the Wandboard. Of course, a normal user would probably not have 3-4 LMS instances on the network, so this is probably not a major problem. Rebooting the wandboard made it switch to the SheevaPlug again so I have to reset it currently after each reboot. 6. If possible, I think it would be great to have a wizard configuration instead of the current menu based. The menu based approach have advantages for users who know what they are doing, but if you want to make it attractive to non technical users not familiar with Linux I think a wizard based setup would be preferred. Maybe it would be possible to offer both, so advanced users can use the menus but normal users can get a simplified wizard based setup ? 7. The disk mounting configuration needs more work, but I suspect this is still work in progress. There are samples in the /etc/fstab file but through the web interface you need to know a lot of Linux stuff to be able to configure it currently. As a minimum it would be good to at least describe the /storage file structure where it seems like CSOS has been designed to mount things based on the samples in the /etc/fstab file. It would also be good if LMS could be preconfigured with defaults pointing in /storage/music/flac and /storage/music/playlist to make it easy for a new users to select the correct directories when configuring LMS. My dream would be a network browser who showed available shares on my network and just allowed me to select which one to mount and by default automatically mounted it in the correct place in the file system. 8. This is probably something that's already in the plan, but it would be great to have a software update option through the CSOS web interface, something similar to how update works in VortexBox. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98544 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: JiveLite - cut down squeezebox control application
Triode wrote: I've updated the grid branch on googlecode to do something like this, but using a 6x3 grid as I think the text is more readable at this size. I would be interested if one or more people could try it - it works using a new HDGridSkin which is 1920x1080 only. Note that in grid menus the right and left buttons are used to navigate around the grid - you need to use enter for go and backspace for back functions. This means that you need an alternative remote with more buttons than a squeezebox remote if using flirc, but I think it works reasonably well. There are several rough edges, but it is at a state where its worth asking for feedback. Some feedback and ideas (I've tried it on a 1080p TV with a USB keyboard on the Wandboard). 1. Grid view works great for album views 2. In current playlist I would like to have a separate screen which contained: - Now Playing information on left half of screen with big cover art of current track - Vertical current playlist on right half of screen with small cover art and vertical track list instead of grid view 3. Moving left when standing on top left item should move back, you shouldn't be forced to use Esc to move back. Typical case would be a user entering the menu with right arrow and then regret it and want to go back. Esc is fine when you are in the middle of the menu and want to move out without having to navigate to the first item first. 4. Not sure if it's my cover art being too small or if there is some antialiasing missing in the rescaling logic, the album covers generally doesn't look as good as they do in the grid view on iPeng. 5. Default icons needs to have higher resolution, but I'm sure you are already aware of this, it's not really unique to the grid skin, I just noticed it now when using it on a 1080p TV. 6. The track list view when navigating into an album should have a separate screen, something similar to what I suggested for the current playlist screen with: - Big album cover to the left of the screen with some album information - Track list of album to the right Currently it wastes a lot of screen space by just showing the tracks with text 7. Browsing artists, genres and years also wastes a lot of screen space. Not sure how to fix that. It would make sense to show currently playing track to the left but it feels strange to do so if you doesn't do it always and I really want point 6 above, so I'm not sure what the best solution would be. Maybe showing currently playing track always on the left side would be the best way. 8. My Apps/Spotify/Playlist and also other views which list tracks would be better with a vertical view than the grid view. Possibly two column view with text to the right instead of below the album covers could be a solution. I'm just not sure how logical it would be to the user. 9. Grid view works good for the settings menu. 10. Grid view works pretty good in the TuneIn menus under Internet Radio, so I think it's a good idea to have it in menus that lists radio stations. As a side note, is there some way to control JiveLite on the TV from another computer or an iPad ? Making that possible would make me use it a lot more because I usually have another computer or iPad in front of me when listening to music. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98156 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: JiveLite - cut down squeezebox control application
castalla wrote: I've been following the jivelite developments with a degree of jealousy! Why, oh why, isn't there something like this for Android?? I can't be alone in not wanting a a large display attached to my DIY squeezebox. In fact I keep the TV and Radio separate in our shack. I appreciate that jivelite can and will be used with smaller hdmi screens for use with the WB. I've tried most of the android controllers - they work okay but generally I find them too fiddly to mess around with. The original screenplay program for windows is just what I like and use - simple, uncluttered best of all emulates a Touch display. Beats me that no-one has developed an android version! (I would if I could, but don't have the skills). Anyone? Do you want the exact JiveLite/SqueezePlay interface on Android or do you want the grid based album view which Triode just posted ? In my very personal opinion, the standard SqueezePlay isn't optimized to run on a larger screen the problem is even seen on the Touch in some menus, it wastes too much space which are just empty, I'm guessing this is a reason why Triode implemented the grid view which will take better advantage of a larger screen. Have you seen SqueezePad on iOS, is it something similar to that you would like on Android ? What about Logitech's free Android app, isn't that fairly similar to SqueezePlay when browsing ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98156 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3
I'm sorry if this has already been answered, in that case just refer me to the previous post (in case you don't want to answer it again) If I install the R3 image, is there an easy way to update everything to the latest version ? Or do I at the moment need to go though this thread and find all update instructions since R3 was released ? Looking for something similar to apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade; on Ubuntu. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98544 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: JiveLite - cut down squeezebox control application
Triode wrote: I've updated the grid branch on googlecode to do something like this, but using a 6x3 grid as I think the text is more readable at this size. I would be interested if one or more people could try it - it works using a new HDGridSkin which is 1920x1080 only. Is this specific to JiveLite or is this something that could be used also on a Touch, maybe as a third party applet ? Just asking because I've always wondered how a view like this would work for albums on the Touch. On the Touch you would probably have to skip the album titles due to the more limited screen size. Will try to get some time to try it during next couple of days. Is there an easy way to try it on Community Squeeze so I can try it on the Wandboard and don't have to setup a separate environment for JiveLite ? Without trying, it feels like it should at least make sense for My Albums and My Apps menus. If you could somehow make it possible to filter the view it would be even better, for example allowing the user to enter text in a search field at the top or select a genre. Now, I just want artist images also, too bad the artists and music industry don't want to share them to the public... erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98156 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
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JackOfAll wrote: Maybe a one page history of the SqueezeBox, product history, etc. etc. SlimDevices - Logitech - CommunitySqueeze. You have probably already seen it, but if you don't get anything else there is always the wikipedia page you can take som info from regarding history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox_%28network_music_player%29 It's just missing the last Community Squeeze step. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98544 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
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JackOfAll wrote: I have got a pro web developer on-board for the whole of next week, to do a website design. Forgetting about photos for a moment, we still need some more content. It's down to me to write some detail, dealing with eg. how to use the software repo, (for non ARM Wandboard users). I know writing documentation sucks, but can you guys help me out a little here so we have some content on the site. The stuff that you don't need any particular skills to write about.. I'm going to ask stupid question regarding this. If this is going to be a community maintained product, wouldn't it be better to have a wiki solution for most of the documentation where everyone could directly help editing it instead of having you as an intermediate step. You can still have a real web site for the very first page, but having a wiki in the background which everyone can help edit and add information to feels like a better long term solution, will be easier for people to help maintaining it over time and everyone would feel like they are part of it as they can edit the information directly. Or is there a reason you want to have the content on a normal web site ? Using a wiki is pretty standard among other open source projects as far as I've seen. I suggested the same for the FAQ which was created earlier: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98653-Community-Squeeze-FAQ Since everything is planned to be non commercial (unless I've missed something) and Squeezebox related you could even use Logitech's wiki at http://wiki.slimdevices.com and just link to the page from your front page if you don't want to setup your own wiki solution. Keeping a backup of a few pages of the Logitech wiki on nighly bases is easy if you just want to be sure the information isn't lost if Logitech would suddenly decide to shut it down. However, if you are unsure about the future of the Logitech wiki, a separate wiki could make sense. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98544 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
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JackOfAll wrote: With regard to your comment about me being an intermediate step, that is not a role I want. And is why I have been working on and discussing a build system where the non-technical can make a change to a doc file or translation, push a single button on the website, causing the source to be pulled from git, the package to be built and pushed to the testing repo. I just know that a lot of documentation has been provided by community members on the Logitech wiki and I believe a reason for that is because it was easy for people to add stuff directly without it being approved or reviewed by Logitech and without having to know HTML. One person can add content and another person can later fine tune the layout so it looks nice. As long as you make it easy for people to contribute it doesn't matter if it's a wiki or some other solution. If your build system makes it easy and doesn't require people to know more complex HTML, I'm sure that will work as good as a wiki. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98544 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
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michaelvv wrote: A few pictures so far... My Belowed wacuum cleaner died a few years ago... /Best Michael Would be perfect if the top of the antenna of the wandboard also was shown, except for this it looks like the perfect DIY kit :-) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98544 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Plastic Box Which Plays Noises
albertone74 wrote: I fully agree with Michael's feelings. Thanks a lot for all these big efforts! +1 Really great work by everyone who has contributed. I'll get back a bit later with some feedback after I've tried the release image a bit. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98190 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: JiveLite - cut down squeezebox control application
Just tried it on my wandboard together with my Sony 1080p TV, generally seems to work great but my feeling is that the user interface really need a different layout to look good at a big TV, at the moment there is a lot of empty space which isn't used for anything. On the wandboard it would probably be good if it started with the Now Playing screen and stayed there because I suspect a lot of people are going to control the wandboard with smartphone unless the Gen1/Gen2 hardware comes with a IR remote and having to attach a USB keyboard just to change the screen saver settings might not be an optimal solution. I think Now Playing is already default when something is playing, but if you only use the Now Playing screen you probably also want it to be active when not playing or as an alternative show a clock screen saver as default when not playing. Some way to disable the button bar on the Now Playing screen would also be good when it's used on displays without a touch screen. Does the applets load in same way as in SqueezePlay ? (if I install them via SSH) is there a general short list of things that needs to be changed to make old applets work ? Is VU meter stuff ripped out of it since the audio stuff is removed ? If so, is there some alternative way to accomplish a VU meter ? I really want to make my Custom Clock screen with LastFM artist images to the left and VU meter to the right work if possible. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98156 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
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squeezelite started to use 100% CPU and stopped playing music in a middle of an album. /var/log/squeezelite/squeezelite.log is empty so I'm not sure what's going on. I restarted it via the wandboard:8080 web interface and after that it works again. Just thought I'd mention it in case someone else sees similar issues. I'm using the Ethernet connection and have the music files on a NAS if that matters. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98190 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Plastic Box Which Plays Noises
JackOfAll wrote: I've made an updated release candidate image, CSOS RC2. web-gui (index page) availability is averaging 23-25 seconds from being allocated an IP Address via dhcp after booting. That's the best it is going to get for the moment. I can probably shave a few more seconds off, but that's basically the time it's going to take for tomcat to start and deploy the app. 'CSOS-Wandboard-Dual-RC2-20130402-1.img.7z' (http://www.communitysqueeze.org/images/wandboard/CSOS/CSOS-Wandboard-Dual-RC2-20130402-1.img.7z) First of all, really great work! Some feedback from my setup after installing RC2. 1. The first time I accidentally entered the wrong passphrase when setting up the Wifi, obviously this resulted in that the wifi didn't work but after a few reboots and figuring out that I had entered the wrong passphrase it started to expose itself over duplicate IP addresses (both using WifI) and the connection was really bad and went up and down all the time. I'm sorry if I can't be more specific, just thought I'd mention it in case someone else does the same mistake. I ended up re-writing the image to the SD card to start over again. If it's of interest I could try to reproduce it, but then it would be great to know if you want me to look at some specific files or logs when it happens again, it was a bit hard to troubleshoot since the connection when up and down so it wasn't even possible to reliably connect to it with ssh. 2. The Save button on the Wifi page is placed a bit badly because I didn't notice it the first time, I just noticed the Reboot button at the bottom and entered my Wifi network data and clicked Reboot, which of course resulted in that it didn't save any settings. 3. When specifying the Wifi data and clicking save, the result is that the networking seems to be restarted which in my setup resulted in that the Ethernet address got a new IP and the web page didn't work. I had to manually switch the IP in the url in the web browser to match the address the Wifi or new Ethernet IP addresses. 4. The WiFi settings page list a lot less WiFi networks than I see on other devices. Not sure if it's the WiFi strength (I have the external antenna connected) or if it's some timeout so it requires more time to find all network. As an example it didn't find the Airport Extreme in the same room but it find my D-Link router from another room. It's not big issue for me personally since the Airport Extreme didn't work previously so I'm currently using the D-Link which works. 5. Would probably be a good idea to place a Shutdown and Reboot button on the Home page. I guess it's preferred if people shutdown properly instead of just unplugging the power, at least now in the beginning until all issues have been solved. 6. The parameters in the WiFi settings could be a bit confusing to someone not used to network configuration. While ESSID and Wireless PSK makes sense to technical users it could be confusing terms for less technical audiophiles. Using Wireless network (ESSID) and Passphrase (PSK) would probably make it a little bit more clear. Another thing that also might be good is to have a Static/DHCP option where DHCP is default and when selecting that the IP address and DNS address fields are disabled to avoid confusing for non technical users. 7. Outgoing connections outside the local network didn't work when I had both Ethernet and WiFi connected. Disconnecting the Ethernet cable solved it. I noticed the problem because LMS wouldn't allow me to click Next on the initial setup wizard after entering the network credentials. After this I logged in via ssh and realized the wandboard couldn't ping www.google.com or mysqueezebox.com. I disconnected the Ethernet cable and rebooted and after that it worked again. Some data in case it's a routing issue: Code: [fedora@wandboard ~]$ route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface default 172.16.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 172.16.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 wlan0 172.16.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 [fedora@wandboard ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager domain bredbandsbolaget.se search bredbandsbolaget.se nameserver 172.16.0.1 [fedora@wandboard ~]$ I'll try if I can reliably reproduce the problem a bit later after I've tested that everything else works correctly. Local network accessed worked because I could mount the disk from the NAS and ping machines on the local network. 8. The Squeezelite player which I setup before LMS, connected to my Sheevaplug so I didn't see it in LMS by default. Switching it to LMS solved the problem and it's probably not a big issue since I suspect most people will just have a single LMS server, I just thought I'd mention it. I guess the reason for it is
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Plastic Box Which Plays Noises
JackOfAll, great work with the image, it was easy to install and very clear instructions in the beginning of the thread, thanks a lot for your work to make this as simple and possible. I got it all working a lot faster than I had expected. Just to help other people and give you some ideas of things that might be worth to improve, the main issues I had was: 1. How to switch it to use the analoge output - I just run squeezelite -l and picked the first device in the list default:CARD=sgtl5000audio and edited the -o parameter in /etc/sysconfig/squeezelite - I changed the Mac address in the -m parameter and also changed the -a parameter to ::16: which was mentioned later in the thread. - It had very low volume at start, using alsamixer to raise Headphone and PCM to 100% and also raise the volume in LMS to 100% solved that. - Used sudo alsactl store 0 to ensure it survives a reboot - After this it works properly and all these instructions was actually in the thread, so it was just me being a bit too excited to get things going and not reading the instructions that caused the struggling. I know the analoge output is not the best option but it was the only free cable/connection I had available for my amplifier at the time. 2. I had some issue to connect the WiFi to my Airport Extreme WiFi router - It's not something I've solved and I've seen other devices have similar issues previously so I suspect it's not caused by the Wandboard, just thought I'd mention it in case someone else have similar issues. - The WiFi works properly when I switched it to connect to my D-Link WiFi network instead. 3. It hangs during reboot - Removing the /usr/lib/systemd/system/shutdown.target.wants/alsa-store.service file seems to solve that 4. NFS mounting didn't mount automatically - The NFS mount to your vortexbox obviously doesn't work in my setup, so I adjusted /etc/fstab to point to the NFS share on my own NAS and also had to change noauto to auto in the /etc/fstab row to make it mount at boot. A question I have is if it is safe to rename the clivem user to something else or will this break anything ? I'm just asking because I would prefer to have a user with the same name and UID as my other machines to make it as smooth as possible to access NFS shares from the NAS from the wandboard. Now, a stupid question (don't feel obligated to answer if you don't have the time). If I wanted to compile some programs for the Wandboard, my idea was to: 1. Setup an Ubuntu VirtualBox machine (because I want to build it on a separate machine and I'm used to Ubuntu) 2. Install the toolchain you seem to have been using: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/angstrom-2011.03-x86_64-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 Is this the best way to do it or should I handle it some other way to make it easier ? Do I need anything else than the above toolchain ? As an example, there seems to be some Wandboard SDK on their download page: http://wandboard.org/index.php/downloads, is this needed to compile programs (I'm not planing to compile the kernel) ? Finally, is there anything in particular you would like people with a wandboard to help you try if it works or not ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98190 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)
castalla wrote: (Supplementary: at a later point, would there be anyway to switch between the default analog and the bt outputs dynamically?) Not sure exactly how you plan to use it, but maybe it would be worth to consider running multiple instances of Squeezelite, one with default analog output and one with bluetooth audio output. This way they would appear as two separate players in your Squeezebox system which makes it easy to select which one you like to play the music on using the standard Squeezebox remote control apps. Ideally, I guess you would also want to have some kind of start/stop script integrated with the operating system bluetooth detection mechanism so the bluetooth player starts when bluetooth audio device is connected and stops when it's disconnected. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97046 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Logitechmediaserver consumes all available CPU, becomes unresponsive
Do you have any idea if the issue happens when you are listening to music, when you are browsing or doing some other operation or when the system isn't doing anything special ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95579 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transfer LMS settings to new computer
Copying the prefs directory should copy all settings both for LMS
itself and its plugins. You will find the location of the Preference
Folder by looking in LMS Settings/Information.
If you use some of my plugins, you might also have configured separate
configuration directories in respective plugin settings page, in this
case you want to copy these directories too.
And if you use TrackStat plugin, remember to do a TrackStat backup on
the old computer and restore it on the new one. Note that TrackStat
will only be able to restore the statistics and ratings properly if the
path to the music files is the same on the new computer unless you have
musicbrainz id tags in your music files.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Unable to run LMS 7.7 on debian lenny
hatng;650656 Wrote:
I tried on ubuntu and it works
Where you able to scan pictures and videos on Ubuntu ?
The LMS scanner has always crashed for me on Ubuntu as soon as it found
a picture or video file. Music scanning seems to still work correctly.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Help with Perl code needed...
Put this somewhere at the top of the file together with all the other
rows that starts with use:
Code:
use File::Spec::Functions qw(:ALL);
And then replace:
Code:
my $path ||= Slim::Utils::OSDetect::dirsFor('prefs');
$path = $path . '\plugin\sugarcube.db';
With:
Code:
my $path ||= Slim::Utils::OSDetect::dirsFor('prefs');
$path = catfile($path,'plugin','sugarcube.db');
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] MySQL Scan - Column 'contributor' cannot be null
nigelf;619167 Wrote:
Can you suggest where I find an mp3 that is 'known' to work so that I
can discount any suggestion that it's down to faulty tags?
You can try one from the Logitech test suite, for example this one
works in my library and appears as album AutoTests and artist Steven
Spies:
http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.5/trunk/tests/AutoTestsFramework/Data/TagsTestsTracks/mp3_16_08000_1_440_10.mp3
If you suspect the tags, it might be a good idea to try the same music
file on one of the officially supported platforms, for example on a
Windows installation of SBS if you have access to a Windows computer
where you temporarily can install SBS to try a file you suspect.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] MySQL Scan - Column 'contributor' cannot be null
JJZolx;619126 Wrote:
Where do you see that? The query
From the scanner log:
Code:
[11-03-18 10:52:29.6062] Slim::Schema::_createTrack (1364) Created track
'Sweet Little Rock N Roller' (id: [0])
According to the code (assuming I've interpreted it correctly) the
number between [] should be tracks.id. In my setup the identities in
tracks table are 1 or higher.
If the MySQL auto_increment doesn't work correctly and generate a
correct sequence number that's probably an issue.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] MySQL Scan - Column 'contributor' cannot be null
It looks like your track get an id in the tracks table of 0, in my setup
the first track in a new database always gets the id 1. I wonder if this
might be related to some setting in the MySQL database ?
I still don't understand how 0 can became undef, but in my MySQL
database it isn't possible to insert a row in tracks table with id 0,
if I try to insert 0 it will generate an id higher than 0.
It looks like the code to get back the generated identity from the
tracks table also looks different in 7.3 compared to 7.4, so this
probably explains why it works in 7.3. If I interpret the code
correctly, 7.3 seems to use the DBIx create call to create the tracks
table row while 7.4 and later use a standard INSERT directive and the
last_insert_id function of DBI.
So I suspect your problem is either related to DBI/DBIx CPAN modules or
some setting in the MySQL database. If you are running a standalone
MySQL database, check your my.cnf file and compare it with the one
bundled with SBS to make sure you haven't set any extra options that
might cause problems.
As an example, there is a sql-mode parameter called
NO_AUTO_VALUE_ON_ZERO that seems to affect how auto incremented columns
works, maybe that's set in your MySQL instance ?
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-sql-mode.html#sqlmode_no_auto_value_on_zero
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] MySQL Scan - Column 'contributor' cannot be null
Have you tried pointing the music folder to a sub set of your library
instead of scanning the whole library ?
Just to eliminate the risk that this is caused by an incorrectly tagged
music file.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Database problems with squeezeboxserver 7.5.1 - build 30576
Looks very strange, which SBS version did you use previously ? The statement that fails was part of the upgrade script to a 6.5.x release. Could you have some old installation left on the disk that's causing some conflict ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77367 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Database problems with squeezeboxserver 7.5.1 - build 30576
thies;535279 Wrote: The previous build, so some 7.5.1 build. I never had 6.5.x installed I think. I already purged the whole thing but I'll do that again and see if there are any references left. Does 6.5 install in a different path than the 7.5 versions? Yes, 6.5 was called SlimServer and early 7.x was called SqueezeCenter and now it's called Squeezebox Server. I think the product name is reflected in the installation directory name, at least in the directories under the /var structure. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77367 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network configuration question: better asking here?
audiomuze;504494 Wrote: So if I've understood correctly the fact that I've used static IP's on the PC's means I manually need to check they've the gateway set correctly also. If not, they can see the router, but not access the net, right? Correct -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73714 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network configuration question: better asking here?
How are the DNS server attributes configured on the NAS ? You want them to point to either 192.168.168.254 if the router is able to proxy DNS request or to the real DNS servers which the router uses. Does it work to ping a internet address from the NAS using IP instead of hostname ? Does the same thing work from the PC ? What does ipconfig /all (Windows) or ifconfig (Linux) output on the PC ? Does the DNS, Gateway, netmask look correct in the output from these commands ? Try to reboot the PC if you haven't done so already, if you are using Windows a reboot usually tends to fix things. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73714 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network configuration question: better asking here?
audiomuze;504510 Wrote: All looks fine using dynamic IP. Will try static and revert. If I remember correctly I think I once had a router that didn't allow unknown static IP's to pass through if DHCP was enabled. There could be some setting in the router that controls this. Is there any way you setup static IP addresses in the router, some routers has support for this. This way you can configure the devices for DHCP but they will always get the same IP address because the router keeps track of which IP-addresses it should assign to devices with different MAC-addresses. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73714 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network configuration question: better asking here?
JJZolx;504581 Wrote: I would seriously reexamine your need to use static IP addresses. For some odd reason, people seem to believe using static IPs solves some unknown networking issues. Using DHCP allows you to reconfigure your entire network in a matter of minutes, in one central location. The only thing using static IP addresses can really overcome is the failure of the DHCP server itself. I think most people uses static IP addresses because they use IP-address when accessing the machine or have a local hosts file on each machine with IP-Hostname mapping. None of the home routers I've used has been able to reliably handle DNS requests on the internal network so it's possible to find a machine with hostname. It usually works if you only have Windows machines but in a mixed network with Windows, OSX and Linux you need something outside the cheap home router, at least that's my experience. I'm personally using static IP's on my internal network for this reason and run a central dnsmasq server so I can have the static IP-Hostname mapping in one place. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73714 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network configuration question: better asking here?
I'm guessing the ADSL router is one of those with several LAN ports ? If that's the case I'd do as follows: - Connect a cable between the ADSL router and the gigabit switch - Connect a cable between the gigabit switch and PC1 - Connect a cable between the gigabit switch and PC2 - Connect a cable between the gigabit switch and the NAS If it's a problem having the NAS connected to the gigabit switch (due to Jumbo frame problems) it should also work to connect it directly to the ADSL router instead. In this setup only one of the NICS in the PC's would be used. You would only have one local network and every unit on that network would have both access to internet and access to the other units on the local network. If you for some reason want to limit internet access for some devices, I'd just get another cheap router that has a built-in firewall where you can restrict the internet access from some MAC/IP adressses. In this case that router would be placed between the gigabit switch and the ADSL router. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73714 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network configuration question: better asking here?
audiomuze;504479 Wrote: I'd tried what you and Erland described above yesterday and the NAS consistently couldn't see the Internet. I'll specifically disable eth1 on both machines and double check that the PCs are cabled to the switch only. Make sure the default gateway is set correctly on the NAS, if it isn't it will only find machines on the local network. I'm guessing it's something like 192.168.0.1, it should be the internal IP of the ADSL router. Also make sure the NAS is configured with the correct DNS servers. If you have DHCP enabled on the router and the NAS, all this should happen automatically, if you don't you will need to configure them manually. audiomuze;504479 Wrote: Agreed, there's nothing in it in performance terms, but it was a simple way of keeping my music network from being Internet facing. I assume there is some kind of firewall in the ADSL router that will handle this protection. The router will make sure no one can access your music server unless you have explicitly configured the router to open ports towards the music server. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73714 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running from SVN
When I like to run several SBS's as services I've started to use VirtualBox virtual machines, if you install Ubuntu Server and selects the installation option for a virtual machine it's pretty slim so it doesn't use too much extra resources. I think the plain OS works with 128MB memory assigned to the virtual machine, possibly even less. The advantage with using virtual machines is that you can use the standard installation scripts if you like to. This is what I have in my environment: 1. A virtual machine which runs a standard SBS 7.4.1 installed with apt-get 2. A virtual machine which runs svn version of 7.5, this has a row like this in /etc/rc.local Code: su - myuser -c screen -S squeezecenter75 -d -m squeezecenter75 And the squeezecenter75 script which is in /home/myuser/bin looks like this: Code: #!/bin/sh export PERL5LIB=$PERL5LIB:/opt/squeezecenter75:/opt/squeezecenter75/CPAN export PATH=/opt/squeezecenter75:$PATH slimserver.pl --cachedir /var/lib/squeezecenter/Cache75 --prefsdir /home/myuser/Configurations/Prefs75 --logdir /var/lib/squeezecenter/Logs75 $* I've selected to put the prefs dir under /home because that what's included in my regular backups. The /opt/squeezecenter75 directory is just svn checkout of http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.5/trunk/server/ 3. On the development machine which is also a VirtualBox virtual machine I don't run them as sevices, I just start the server I like to start manually in a terminal window. In the development setup I have a script like the squeezecenter75 script mentioned above for each configuration I like to have easy access to. For example, a squeezecenter75_small script that points to a specific prefs directory which is configured towards a Music Folder with just a few albums. The standard debian installation scripts puts log, cache and prefs all under /var/lib/squeezeboxserver, so I'm guessing you should do the same if you like to have a setup as similar to a real installation as possible. If you like a fully linux compliant installation, you probably want the log dir somewhere under /var/log/ -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73689 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SC File Permissions
socistep;397054 Wrote: How do I update my access set-up to resolve this ? I presume the initial install for a plugin is done under root type access so there are no issues with that ? It probably complains about the access to the directories you have configured in the plugin settings page for the particular plugin. The default points to the playlist folder configured in SqueezeCenter so unless you have changed these directory parameters you probably also have problem to edit playlists in your SC setup. The Linux commands to change permissions are: - chmod (gives user, group or all read/write access to a specific directory) - chown (changes the owner of the specific directory) - chgrp (changes the group of the specific directory) Using chmod 777 directory is the easy way out but this is NOT recommended as it gives anyone with access to the machine write access to the directory and thus opens a security hole. The correct way to do it is to use the chgrp(or chown) command to make sure the directory belongs to a group which the SC user is member of and then use chmod ug+w directory to give everyone within the group write access to the directory. Use man chgrp or man chmod for more information about the chmod and chgrp commands. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) 'My download page' (http://erland.isaksson.info/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60175 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] SqueezeCenter restarts every morning
I've noticed that sometimes in the morning after the alarm has been running for a while it stops automatically even if I've set it to never end automatically. I've thought this was due to some temporarily network problem but today I started to look in the log files and the reason seems to be that SqueezeCenter is restarted every morning. My suspicion is that it might be the /etc/cron.daily/logrotate script but if I interpret /etc/logrotate.d/squeezecenter correctly it should only happen once a week if this is the cause ? In /var/log/syslog files I have: Code: Nov 7 06:17:01 squeezecenter /USR/SBIN/CRON[16612]: (root) CMD ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) Nov 7 06:25:01 squeezecenter /USR/SBIN/CRON[16623]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )) Nov 7 06:44:02 squeezecenter -- MARK -- Nov 7 06:52:42 squeezecenter syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart. Nov 7 07:04:02 squeezecenter -- MARK -- And in /var/log/sequeezecenter/server.log the first entry is: 2008-11-07 06:52:41 squeezecenter_safe started. (The machine is called squeezecenter) SqueezeCenter seems to be restarted once a day according to the /var/log/squeezecenter/server log files. Sometimes it happens after 06:45 when the alarm has been trigged and then the alarm stops, sometimes it happens before 06:45 and then the alarm continues to run as expected when it is trigged at 06:45. So am I correct that the cause might be the logrotate scripts even though they seems to be set to rotate weekly ? Is there any way to adjust this so always happens before the alarm is triggered ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) 'My download page' (http://erland.isaksson.info/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54771 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezecenter 7.1.0 dies every night....
Remember to register this as a bug report when you have found the problem, that way someone will remember to fix it in a future release. http://bugs.slimdevices.com -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) 'My download page' (http://erland.isaksson.info/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50605 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] SoftSqueeze mixed with other sound ?
Has anyone succeeded in getting SoftSqueeze on linux to work together with other applications that uses the sound card ? It seems like SoftSqueeze grab the sound card exclusively and if it doesn't succeed it doesn't even start. I'm using Ubuntu and have this problem both in Ubuntu 7.10 and Ubuntu 8.04. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49596 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu beginner - Where to start?
Tbrooke;257823 Wrote: Now what? I went to terminal and typed service slimserver start and everything else I could find on the wiki and nothing happens I haven't actually tried the debian package, but on ubuntu I start/stop services like this: To start a service: sudo /etc/init.d/slimserver start To stop a service: sudo /etc/init.d/slimserver stop If you install SlimServer with the debian package, I assume you will get a slimserver that also automatically starts up when the computer is restarted. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42150 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux advice needed please !!
DLloyd;228340 Wrote: And probably the most important question I have right now, which distribution of Linux should I be looking at running ? Have you installed and configured Linux before ? If not, listen to Pat's advice, choose a distribution which you have some friend that runs who can help you when you get in trouble. I say when because, you are, it's just a matter of where it happens. Some people are lucky with their installations, but my experience is that there is always something that will require some work. It might be some hardware in the box or it might be some default behaviour that isn't like you want it. If you don't know any Linux friend that is able to help you, I would personally choose Ununtu. The main reason is that it is simple to setup and their installation packaging works so you don't get dependencies problem unless you are doing something really special and finally their discussion forums are very active. If you aren't experienced with Linux I would also suggest that you install the desktop installation and connect a monitor and keyboard during the installation. Setup everyting as you like it and when you have everything working, start to think how to make it work without the monitor or keyboard. For a beginner it is a lot easier to use the graphical configuration tools while the more experienced users tends to like vi and manually editing of the text configuration files. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38519 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] EAC on Ubuntu Fiesty
Mark Lanctot;220885 Wrote: I'm thinking if you can ever get a re-read in EAC under wine, EAC can detect when sectors don't match and you get the full benefits of the program. Shadowtester;220886 Wrote: And yes there are advantages to using EAC if you want a really accurate bit for bit rip I have not found any other app that is as accurate. Just to be clear, I'm not questioning EAC, I'm using it myself but I run it on Windows. I would really love to run it on Linux but I haven't dared to do it yet. The thing I'm a bit afraid of on Linux is that EAC can't force a re-read when run under wine. I don't know if this is the case or not, but since wine is in the middle and the whole thing is running under another OS (Linux) which EAC doesn't know about, it seems to me that there might be things going on in the OS which EAC has no knowledge of. So EAC might think that it reads the drive directly when it in fact just reads from a cache in memory or from the hard drive. But again, I don't know if this is the case or not, so if someone knows the definite truth, please post. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37590 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] EAC on Ubuntu Fiesty
Do you really get any benefit of running EAC when you run it under Wine ? I'm guessing that EAC can't access the hardware directly when running it this way and I have always thought that EAC get its strengths by the fact that it accesses the hardware directly. Wouldn't a native Linux application based on cdparanoia be preferable, for example Grip ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37590 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SoftSqueeze problems on Linux ?
Ron F.;219627 Wrote: My problem was only occuring with SoftSqueeze running on the same Ubuntu platform running Slimserver. If I were to run SoftSqueeze on a separate Windows platform - it would connect to Slimserver on the Ubuntu machine and run fine.I just checked, when I run SoftSqueeze on Windows towards my Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 with SlimServer 6.5.3 everything works perfectly. However, when I run SoftSqueeze from my Ubuntu Fiesty 7.04 laptop towards the same Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 with SlimServer 6.5.3 it hangs. The Windows client runs Java 1.6.0_01 while I think the Ubuntu Feisty client runs Java 1.6.0_00 and 1.5.0_11, where the 1.5 version is used by default. I've also runned it with Java 1.5.0_12 on Windows and it works perfectly with that too. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37413 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SoftSqueeze problems on Linux ?
Ron F.;219768 Wrote: Reading this thread, I remember doing two more things that might have helped make it work on my Ubuntu machine: 1. I commented out the normal 127.0.1.1 Ron-ubuntu line in my /etc/hosts file, and replaced it with 127.0.0.1 localhost Ron-ubuntu - I put the host name after localhost. 2. I disabled IPv6 - not sure this matters, as I have not reactivated it to be sure. This included commenting out all the ip6 lines in /etc/hosts. Not that it matters, but I am also using the Java MP3 plugin. Thanks for the ideas. I've tried all this, but unfortunately it didn't solve the problem. Ron F.;219770 Wrote: SoftSqueeze has been playing continuously for the past 16 hours on my Ubuntu 7.04 machine now, without a hiccup - so it is possible to make it work! Just to make sure, you did try to change track manually sometime during these 16 hours ? It only hangs for me if I change track, if I let the tracks play to the end so SlimServer itself just start to play the next track everything works perfectly in my setup too. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37413 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SoftSqueeze problems on Linux ?
Ron F.;219613 Wrote: What finally did work for me was to install the Java 1.5.0_11 JRE, Softsqueeze version 3.4, and Slimserver 6.5.3.This is exactly the versions I'm running, so this didn't solve the problem for me. Although I also has Java 1.6.0 installed on the machine, but it's 1.5.0_11 that is active and that 's also the version that is shown within the SoftSqueeze preferences window. To make sure we are seeing the same problem, this is what happens in my setup: 1. I can successfully start SoftSqueeze and start playing something 2. If I now use the Fwd button to skip to next song, SoftSqueeze totally hangs. The progress timer stops and SoftSqueeze no longer receives any remote commands. 3. Restart of SlimServer doesn't help, when SlimServer is restarted SoftSqueeze doesn't connect, it is still hanged. 4. Restart of SoftSqueeze solves the problem and the next songs start to play again. The problem is repeatable with both FLAC and MP3 songs on the current machine. I'm pretty sure my previous installation on another computer only had the problem with FLAC songs, while MP3 worked correctly. The exact same songs works perfectly with a standard SqueezeBox with the same SlimServer installation and computer. SoftSqueeze doesn't seem to hang if I play the song to the end and SlimServer itself switches to the next song, then it successfully switch song and starts playing next song without any hang. The hang problem also occurs if I switch song when a song is playing some other way, for example start to play another artist or album from the browse menu. I've also seen situations where SoftSqueeze is hanged with a blank screen, but I'm not completely sure when this happens. I've installed slimserver with the tar.gz package and used the build-perl-modules.pl script to build the necessary perl modules. On Windows on the same machine (dual booted) everything works perfect, so the problem seems to be related to Linux. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37413 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] SoftSqueeze problems on Linux ?
Does anyone else have problems with SoftSqueeze on Linux ? The problem I'm having is that SoftSqueeze totally hangs pretty often when playling FLAC songs, sometimes also with MP3. The hang often occur when I change to play another track. When it has hung, I can shutdown SoftSqueeze and restart it again and then the song continues to play. I'm using SlimServer 6.5.3 and have tried both Java 5 and Java 6. The problem also exists in previous SlimServer 6.5 releases, I haven't checked if it also occurs in 6.3 and earlier. I've tried both SoftSqueeze 3.4 and 3.3 and the problem is the same in both releases. It works perfectly on Windows. The computer I'm running softsqueeze on is Ubuntu Feisty 7.04, I have tried to connect to a locally installed SlimServer and also towards a remote SlimServer running on a Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 computer. The problem is the same in both configurations. I have posted some SoftSqueeze log files here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=207995#post207995 I appreciate any ideas of how to solve the problem or confirmations on that I'm not the only one that is seeing this. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37413 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Good solution for iPod and Linux ?
peterw;215659 Wrote: If you get rid of Windows and iTunes, what will you use to replace iTunes' smart playlists?Smart playlists are supported in several of the Linux applications, for example gtkpod and Amarok. The problem with this are: - Amarok has no criteria for limiting the smart playlist to a specific size in GB, I'm also not sure if it supports to export only files which are in a playlist. Next TrackStat version will support export/import of statistics to/from Amarok, so getting the SlimServer ratings into Amarok won't be a problem. - There doesn't seem to be any way to get my SlimServer ratings into gtkpod, I'm also not sure if it supports to export only files which are in a playlist. Ratings are important because I use them as one of the criterias to select which 6GB of music to export to the iPod. peterw;215659 Wrote: Building a script to sync the first 6GB of music from a playlist doesn't seem tough. But I don't know how you'd create the playlist. Do you have any ideas regarding this ? I have no problem to generate a standard playlist file, I can implement this pretty easy by using SQL towards the Amarok database. The problem is that the applications doesn't seem to support to export music based on a playlist, they typically supports to export a whole directory. I guess I could generate a directory which only contains the correct songs with a script that copies or soft links the correct files. I could then choose to just export this directory from Amarok or gtkpod, but I wish there was an easier way. peterw;215659 Wrote: Are you sticking with the Apple firmware, or considering moving to free software (http://www.rockbox.org/) on the iPod, too? :-)I've installed the Rockbox software, so currently I have both installed in a dual boot configuration. However, the Rockbox doesn't really have any good support for smart playlists yet and it doesn't seem as user friendly as the apple firmware, so I'm not sure it will solve anything. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36724 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Good solution for iPod and Linux ?
Has anyone found a good solution with the SlimServer, iPod and Linux combination ? Today I do as follows: 1. Rip new CD's to FLAC with EAC using Windows, store them on a network drive on the Linux server. SlimServer points to this directory. 2. flac2mp3 is run every night and converts any new or changed FLAC files to MP3 and put these in a separate directory structure. The MP3 files should be used on the iPod. 3. In iTunes I have a number of smart playlists, one main playlist which has a criteria to limit the size to 6GB (I have a 6GB iPod mini). The smart playlist is constructed so it priorities high rated tracks and exclude some old albums and leaves out low rated or non rated tracks to get below 6GB in total size. All the smart playlists are constructed so they only contain tracks which is in this main playlist. 4. When syncronizing with the iPod from iTunes i select to syncronize all the playlists that depends on the main playlist (which is limited to 6GB). I would like to get rid of Windows and use Linux only. EAC is one problem but I know there are solutions for the ripping part, but the other part is the iPod synchronization. The problem is that most of the Linux software available seems to do the iPod synchronization with a directory and have no possibility to limit the synchronized files to those in a smart playlist. Does anyone have a good solution for iPod synchronization that doesn't involve Windows/Mac and iTunes ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36724 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Debian installation on download page ?
Shouldn't the .deb installation for debian based linux systems be available on the download page ? Or will it just be available for download using apt-get ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-trackstat) , 'SQLPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-sqlplaylist) , 'DynamicPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-dynamicplaylist), 'Custom Browse' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-custombrowse) and 'RandomPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-randomplaylist) plugins) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27654 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Re: Debian installation on download page ?
Dan Sully;138003 Wrote: * erland shaped the electrons to say... Shouldn't the .deb installation for debian based linux systems be available on the download page ? Or will it just be available for download using apt-get ? Only via APT, as there are a number of dependencies that are needed. Maybe there should be some information available on the download page that it is available using apt and which apt repositories you will have to setup ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-trackstat) , 'SQLPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-sqlplaylist) , 'DynamicPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-dynamicplaylist), 'Custom Browse' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-custombrowse) and 'RandomPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-randomplaylist) plugins) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27654 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] revision.txt not installed in deb package ?
Is it intentional that there is no revision.txt installed with the .deb package ? The result of this is that revision will always show up as trunk so a plugin cannot use $::REVISION to execute different code for pre split-scanner and post split-scanner releases. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-trackstat) , 'SQLPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-sqlplaylist) , 'DynamicPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-dynamicplaylist) and 'RandomPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-randomplaylist) plugins) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25431 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Re: Two slimservers running?
I'm am not running the debian installation myself so I am not sure this works, but it might. I think you probably need to shutdown your previous installation before you upgrade. Just run the following as root/sudo before upgrading: /etc/init.d/slimserver stop Then upgrade and start slimserver again after the upgrade with: /etc/init.d/slimserver start If that doesn't work you should be able to simply kill all processes found with the following command, you probably only needs to kill the first process found and the rest will be killed by themself: ps aux|grep slimserver -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-trackstat) , 'SQLPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-sqlplaylist) , 'DynamicPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-dynamicplaylist) and 'RandomPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-randomplaylist) plugins) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25373 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
