[SlimDevices: Unix] Help with Issue " SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED"?
Anyone knows why the Linux machine at my GF's place would be getting the error below? The Win10 setup at my place doesn't get this error? It doesn't seem to happen with the local library, more of an issue with Spotify... long pauses between song... hickups etc [20-12-18 13:30:27.0359] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: [13:30:27.0356] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Schema.pm line 1871 [20-12-18 13:30:27.6323] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (453) Rescanning changed audio files (0) [20-12-18 13:31:18.0359] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (180) Discovering audio files in /home/caryn/Dropbox/Paul File Share/Chet Baker/Silent Nights [20-12-18 13:31:18.0389] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (192) Start processing found tracks [20-12-18 13:31:18.0391] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (200) Connect do DB [20-12-18 13:31:18.0392] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (203) Get latest ID [20-12-18 13:31:18.0395] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (225) Delete temporary table if exists [20-12-18 13:31:18.0398] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (228) Re-build temporary table [20-12-18 13:31:18.0537] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (277) Get deleted tracks count [20-12-18 13:31:18.0539] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (284) Get new tracks count [20-12-18 13:31:18.0541] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (289) Get changed tracks count [20-12-18 13:31:18.0584] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (295) Removing deleted audio files (0) [20-12-18 13:31:18.0585] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (373) Scanning new audio files (2) [20-12-18 13:31:18.0621] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: [13:31:18.0618] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Schema.pm line 1871 [20-12-18 13:31:18.1741] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (453) Rescanning changed audio files (0) [20-12-18 13:54:11.7071] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: [13:54:11.7067] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Schema.pm line 1871 [20-12-19 12:41:09.8775] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: [12:41:09.8771] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Schema.pm line 1871 Version info: Logitech Media Server Status Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1578996832 @ Tue Jan 14 12:17:56 CET 2020 Hostname: xxx Server IP Address: xxx Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.26.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Audio::Scan: 0.95 IO::Socket::SSL: 2.060 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) Total Players Recognized: 2 Player Information Information on all identified devices connected to Logitech Media Server Rqueezebox Player Model: Squeezebox Boom Player Type: boom Firmware: 57 Player IP Address: ... Squeezebox Classic Player Model: Squeezebox Classic Player Type: squeezebox2 Firmware: 137 Player IP Address: ... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113465 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How to Get my BIOS to Recognize a USB Drive
there are [plenty of helper apps to seamlessly attach a usb drive in ubuntu these days. also during installation you are asked to identify media drives (in desktop mode). in server mode. learn to edit the fstab. plenty of threads here on that too. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112081 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Link to latest Ubuntu istallation guide wiki?
Could someone kindly point to the latest LMS installation guide on Ubuntu? There are so many links to obsolete guides that it seems hard to actually find the right one as I am not in front of my home computer. The wiki I fond has no mention of Ubuntu... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112039 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Perfect music companion for trip to the cabin
Same here. I have a little cabin lost in the Mendocino woods in Northern California. Just me, an infestation of hummingbirds in the spring and summer (kidding they are lovely, even though they are very protective of their fav flowers beds), plenty of squirrels and raccoons, and even the (very occasional) black bear. I travel there very light on the motorcycle, hence can't carry stuff around. These days there's a drizzle of running water, unreliable electricity, and now even borderline wireless coverage has made it in if you contortion your hand in a certain position. There is also a SB Boom performing excellent and highly satisfying duty. It also runs forever off a portable battery. LMS duty is performed by a resident, ancient Thinkpad X60 running some LMS version of Ubuntu, 14 at the most, haven't checked. New music is uploaded either via SDcard (that I manage to put in the pocket :-D), or spotty 4G coverage. Sure I could just plug some in-ears into my smartphone and enjoy amazing music quality, but there's something super satisfying about *not* drowning out the nature sounds while I prowl about. The cabin is not perfectly insulated, and all the protection the SB Boom and the X60 have between visits is that i wrap them in tarp. They've survived this for over 10 years. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109129 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 18.04 anyone?
Inevitable question - I have started to create an Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and LMS 7.91 VM. Anyone else gathered any experiences? If not I shall report. :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109052 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux VMs running on Win10+VMwareWorkstationPro
FYI for now I have disabled the VM and simply spun up the Windows LMS app - it's far less trouble right now. That said I will most definitely re-create an Ubuntu VM with better built-in portability, but it will require a little research. :-) Fact of the matter is that the old VM has been very temperamental in the new environment, with shared directories crapping out, mysteriously changed permissions and so on. So I'll start from scratch. ...p ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108357 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux VMs running on Win10+VMwareWorkstationPro
I have been reading the different suggestions with great interest. There are man ways to skin this particular cat indeed. :-) The main lesson is that it isn't as straight-forward as I thought it would be, as evidenced by all the replies, too. I have decided to create an entirely new VM over the holidays using some of the advice in here. Hopefully that makes the VM more versatile. Happy Holidays, Linux brethren :-) ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108357 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Linux VMs running on Win10+VMwareWorkstationPro
This probably a very specialized and a bit esoteric discussion. But it may help some people who may consider going the same route as I did. I decided to run LMS on a dedicated VM (details in my sig) because I liked the idea of immediate portability; i.e. if I upgrade my main machine, or decide to turn it off or run it elsewhere, al I have to do is spin up the virtual machine (Ubuntu 16.04 with LMS 7.9) and it will run, right? Unfortunately it's not quite as easy, intuitive and immediate. 3 things don't migrate well: 1. Network configuration. Go for bridged. It'll save you a lot of issues with LMS. You have to set that up in the VM management sw, not the vm itself. 2. Music directory visibility to LMS. I have no idea why that is. I would have assumed if you have the same NTFS drive connected to the exact same vm running ubuntu, hey, the fastab stuff should work right away when you connect the external NTFS drive. But that is not so. You'll have to mess about with your fstab again. 3. Network accessibility of your music collection aka Samba configuration. Gone too when you migrate the vm. Odd. I like to have that because I tend to rip new CDs on my Win10 dbPoweramp app, and then easily drop them into the music directory (owned by the Ubuntu VM). So while that makes my goal of having "immediate migration" ability moot, I shall stick to this configuration model. Simply because, while a tad frustrating at times, it keeps my Linux command line fundamentals going some. I have noticed that with some recent Ubuntu versions the headache had become less, but some basic stuff in the areas described above remains a tad unpredictable. Takeaway: don't expect your OVA vm files to transparently work elsewhere, even when you bring the exact same external drive to the table... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108357 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.00
Just a thought - shouldn't there be a dedicated discussion area for lightweight Linux *players* that support an LMS ecosystem? A "Lightweight Linux Player" Discussion area? I would love it, especially if it captures the latest and greatest ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105997 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
Tex wrote: > Just installed 7.9.0 on a 16.04 VM on a QNAP. I want to thank Michael > for updating the code and Pablo for linking to the instructions. I had > installed it on 14.04 by just double clicking and the software installed > itself. So when I upgraded the VM to 16.04 and that wasn't possible I > was frustrated until I found Pablo's link to the Wiki instructions:p At > that point it took me all of 10 minutes to install and another 5 to 10 > to adjust everything. And now it is purring along like a kitten:o > This forum really enhances the Squeezebox "experience". Isn't it amazing this "discontinued" ecosystem works better than ever? What worries me is what happens the day Michael decides to dedicate himself to another cause...! But at least with the current setup I am set for several years... ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
I tend to do a fresh, clean install. My last setup was 12.04 based and served me well for several years (clearly). My current setup is super stable. But it too some sacrifice - I lost playlists because the new setup indexes them differently, so I am still editing the ones that are relevant to me by hand. Thinking back over the years ( and I have been in the ecosystem for over 10 years), the current version is the best ever. I honestly think Logitech is crazy to not monetize the software upgrade licenses, and keep some version of the Touch in the store! ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
I think the problem was related to the beta image. i have it now working with the official release. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
DJanGo wrote: > Are you sure that the Harddisk where you vm lives is fine? Absolutely and totally yes. The problem is not the hard disk. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
pablolie wrote: > I have to admit I use no other plugins than the ones that autoinstall. I > was using Tridoe's 3rd party Spotify plugin but haven't reactivated it. I am back to my old VM. the new one started to report "could not apply stored configuration for monitor" issues on startup and in the end froze my entire computer (from within a VM, and i mean the entire computer - that's a feat!) in a way i have not witnessed for several years. i will delete the beta VM, wait a little, and then go for it again. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
I have to admit I use no other plugins than the ones that autoinstall. I was using Tridoe's 3rd party Spotify plugin but haven't reactivated it. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
Other cool stuff - unlike in 12.04 LTS you don't seem to have to install advanced media codec packages in 16.04, they seem all packaged in from what I can tell. Furthermore 16.04 doesn't seem you to require to fuss around with fstab to correctly mount drives, the standard "Disks" program offers a graphical interface to mount drives on startup. Samba also auto-installs when you say you want to share a drive in a Windows environment. Cool stuff. So when it becomes generally available, I'd still wait a few weeks if you want to make sure it's rock solid - but I'd definitely totally recommend it. For Linux newbies it is most definitely a much more user friendly package. Can't comment on 14.04 because I jumped straight to 16.04 to 12.04. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
DJanGo wrote: > Any more infos from the install procedure? > Did you tried the alldeb aswell? > The other Users are having some issues cause of perl and locale [but > these are fixed] on which locale is your Setup? Thanks for the immediate answer. I was rusty that's all. :-) It's now working flawlessly, and I didn't have to deviate one iota from the install procedure in the wiki (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Debian_Package). You just can't double click on the package and expect it to install, that's all. :-) For now it's in beta, I can always fall back on my tried and true 12.04+7.7.5... but I don't think I will. Spotify now works from the get go. Everything seems to work just great. This was a 10min install. :-D ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
I finally tried today to install the deb 64 LMS version on a Ubuntu 16.04 VM, and it failed immediately. Hm. Will have to spend more time over the weekend. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Any Ubuntu 16.04 experiences...? Thoughts?
My VM is still on 12.04 (see sig), so with 16.04 coming out soon I was wondering if anyone was already playing with it? When it comes out, I shall attempt an install and report myself. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Player) running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.5 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105350 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] best current ubuntu choice
i have been doing great with my virtual machine strategy, but it is time to future proof it... i hear 7.9 is the best and final LMS release so i am curious about it and a Ubuntu LTS release... any reports on what is easy to put together? i just want a stable environment i don't upgrade - the only thing i do is run the VM on VMWorkstation only and exclusively for LMS. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical-- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR-- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval-- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic- MusicalFidelity M1PWR - Totem DreamCatcher Computer audio: workstation --USB-- audioengine D1 - Grado PS500e pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102922 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] LMS 7.7.3 on Ubuntu 14.04, anyone?
Has anyone successfully installed it? I am just about to try it out. I was thinking it'd be cool if our community could share a working stable OVA file somewhere that people can just download and run. If and when I get it to run, I shall post the OVA somewhere. Any hints appreciated! ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical-- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR-- Creek Destiny Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval-- KEF LS50 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic- MusicalFidelity M1PWR - Totem DreamCatcher pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102214 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) problems: Logitech Media Server died. Restarting.
over the weekend, i will migrate my current virtual machine 12.04+LMS7.7.3 (i run it off Windows VMware Workstation) to 1.404 to future proof my SB infrastructure for many more years :) this thread has probably armed me with the tools to do so easily. i love running LMS on a dedicated VM on my home server, by the way. Allows me to switch it between machines, upgrades and always go back to a configuration that works. And will stay now running semi-supported for many years with 14.04 LMS. long live the SB! :) PS: I have calculated that to migrate (not upgrade) what i have to Sonos I'd have to spend over $3k. for *no* gain in sound quality. so i am *happy* we can keep pushing the life expectancy of a concept i prefer anyhow :) on occasions like this, Logitech's decision still amazes me :-P ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical-- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR-- Creek Destiny Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval-- KEF LS50 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic- AudioEngine5 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101147 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Experiences Setting Up an Ubuntu+LMS Virtual Machine?
I have LMS 7.7.2 working perfectly on Ubuntu 12.04. It is exactly because of the hassle of moving LMS to the new environment as I upgrade to a new Ubuntu version (typically the LTS version on this particular machine) that I am thinking about this. In fact -after some fiddling with the networking on the VM- I have LMS 7.7.2 working on an Ubuntu12.04-VM that runs in VMPlayer 5.0.1 (which runs on Win or Linux), but have not tried to set up the library yet (which is typically on an external 2TB NTFS drive, and backs up onto a dual-drive 3TB Synology NAS). The latter part will probably be the tricky element. pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97296 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Experiences Setting Up an Ubuntu+LMS Virtual Machine?
As I look at the future of LMS, I think a useful way to future-proof this for several years is to create a standard virtual machine file that I can then simply migrate onto different computers and OS's in the future. I currently have LMS 7.7.2 running on Ubuntu 12.04 and it's working quite stably, so that's what I'd set up on a Virtual Machine. I'd also back up that virtual machine as soon as I set it up so I always have a fresh copy, meaning that I can always simply load up the original, working configuration if the running copy gets messed up over time. I'll probably work on this over the Thanksgiving holidays, but wanted to ask the community if anytone has done it and if there are any issues I ought to watch out for. I imagine access-permissions might be especially tricky in such a configuration, but I shall not know until I really try it, I guess :) pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97296 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New songs are not added to LMS Library...
The permissions look exactly the same... Here is the directory/file that LMS no longer picks up pablo@ubuntuserver:/media/1TB/MyMusic/Keith Washington$ ls -l Thinkin Bout You total 6448 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6601890 Oct 24 05:18 01 - Thinkin Bout You. Here is another one, under the same artist's directory, that LMS picks up perfectly... pablo@ubuntuserver:/media/1TB/MyMusic/Keith Washington$ ls -l Bring It On total 15445 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7128746 Dec 4 2008 01-Bring It On-Keith Washington.mp3 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8680177 Dec 4 2008 02-Instramental-Keith Washington.mp3 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 298 Aug 17 2007 desktop.ini pablo@ubuntuserver:/media/1TB/MyMusic/Keith Washington$ It's odd. I can't make any sense of it. pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96880 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS now not working on Ubuntu 12.10
Can you access LMS from the web UI on your computer? pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96892 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New songs are not added to LMS Library...
Oh Geez- you are RIGHT! Can you believe I totally, follishly didn't notice that? I obsessed on permissions, and ignored that fact taht, for some reason, the latest albums from Amazon came without the mp3 extension in the filename... THANK YOU. Once again, a big lesson to stay open minded when tracking an issue. pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96880 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] New songs are not added to LMS Library...
It is bizarre. As evidenced by the screenshot, the albums I have added for the past few days are no longer added to the LMS library. Other albums in the same folder - no problem. Is there an issue with the size? I have no idea what's going on. pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96880 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New songs are not added to LMS Library...
pablolie wrote: It is bizarre. As evidenced by the screenshot, the albums I have added for the past few days are no longer added to the LMS library. Other albums in the same folder - no problem. Is there an issue with the size? I have no idea what's going on. Seems the forum is now converting files to very low res jpg's as one uploads them? Sorry for the attachment... +---+ |Filename: Screenshot from 2012-10-26 05:33:44.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13878| +---+ pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96880 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezebox won't scan my library under Ubuntu! Please help!
definitely make sure that you have added the correct music folder to LMS. if LMS isn't finding your drive, it is because you have to yet set the right permissions: i run ubuntu 12.04 and have my music on an external NTFS drive. i had to make sure the drive was mounted. i use the NTFS Configuration Tool (which needs to be installed) and run it once. pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95176 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] upgrade ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04?
for what it´s worth - moved my environment to ubuntu 12.04 and lms 7.7.2. simplest -clean slate- install i can remember. works like a charm and seems quite a bit faster and more power efficient on my hw platform. 1. install ubuntu 12.04 (i used the alternate install, but have used the standard one before) 2. install unrestricted extras (the standard install disk asks for your approval to do so early) 3. if your music is on an external ntfs drive, the tfs configuration tool continues to be your friend 4. install logitech media server not a single glitch. pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94816 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] upgrade ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04?
i did a test install of 7.7.2 on 12.04 and it worked like a charm. i thoroughly endorse the clean install approach. pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94816 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 12.04 Beta anyone...?
which ubuntu version are you using? i found on previous version the NTFS Configuration Tool is a very neat shortcut to deal with external NTFS drives. Depending on your release and your formatting choices your mileage might vary. Otherwise you'll have to read up on editing fstab stuff (ugh!). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.6.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Touch (1), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC for SB3 mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94203 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 12.04 Beta anyone...?
As I plan to move to 12.04 quickly (it's coolonceyou get over the interface shock), I have (1) Done an install on my test PHP development machine,and over the last weekorsoI have not noticed any stability problems as of the current beta. All 4 hours I have spent on it, mind... (2) Done an experimental install of 12.04 desktop (32 bit) and LMS 7.7.2 on a Lenovo X60s I had lying around. Both installs were a total breeze, and LMS worked from the getgo (just one album for testing though). In fact I'd say this was the fastest, least eventful install of Ubuntu and SBS-LMS I have ever done! -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.6.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Touch (1), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC for SB3 mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94203 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 12.04 Beta anyone...?
Just wondering if anyone has been running the current Ubuntu 12.04 LTD with any version of Squeezebox successfully, and if they would care to share stories. Cheers...pl -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.6.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Touch (1), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC for SB3 mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94203 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Crosspost: LMS Access Problems
Are you sure you installed and configured 11.04 identically on both your original and you new machine? The only thing I see that might be worth trying: connect all SB to msb.com. Upgrade the firmware (which I assume it's already done, but I'd force it just to make sure). Hard reset. It happened to me once that my SBs were in some sort of limbo. I can't quite recall how I got them out of it, but recall frustration and many a hard reset. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.6.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Touch (1), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC for SB3 mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93564 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] NTFS formatted drives not appearing in library?
I always download an app called NTFS Configuration Tool every time I do a new Ubuntu install, and prior to installing SBS. (Just like I also install restricted extras right away, too). With that, I haven't had to mess around with the fstab file and stuff like that in a few releases. The NTFS drives appear correctly after you put them through the motions with that tool. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.6.0 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Touch (1), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC for SB3 mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89210 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Installing SBS on Ubuntu - new to linux and confused
i have never had any issues on ubuntu 11.04 - in fact on intel sandbridge systems with integrated graphics i think it runs better than 10.04 LTS (which would have been my preference but did not run well on my HW). i run SBS 7.5.5 on 11.04, no problems. the install was totally simple. 1. install 11.04 2. install ubuntu restricted extras 3. install sbs (leave password queries empty) 4. enjoy the music :) -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.5.5 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Touch (1), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC for SB3 mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88905 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SBS 7.5.4 on 11.04 (32 bit)
it looks the SQL part is the issue. people report that. i know the regular SBS install asked me about installing SQL and entering passwords for it (even though a later version comes packaged in with 11.04 i think), and that is where just leaving blanks and saying forward gets you through it. i would suggest you raze what you have and start from scratch following my steps - it truly should work especially given the fact your hardware seems solid and common... -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.5.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87719 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SBS 7.5.4 on 11.04 (32 bit)
to gharris' point, yes, Ubuntu 11.04 declares SBS 7.5.4 a very untrustworthy app at the start of the install. You have to force the install and say everything's trusted, and do NOT enter passwords... at least that's what worked for me. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.5.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87719 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SBS 7.5.4 on 11.04 (32 bit)
MDB;631448 Wrote: I didn't have any problems with SBS on 10.40, but 11.04 gave me a lot of problems... Take a look at this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87710 Strange - can you provide more info on your hardware etc - mine was pretty uneventful after I focused on essentials and simplified in, and this is on hardware known to be somewhat problematic on Ubuntu for now... Truly, yours should work too. Where does it fail? -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.5.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87719 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] SBS 7.5.4 on 11.04 (32 bit)
This is my experience with this, do the following 1. Install Ubuntu 11.04 (it is a bit picky about hardware, the alternate CD seems to do much better than the base one) 2. Get all Updates, restart 3. Get Ubuntu restricted extras (it'll give you all the decoding capabilities you need) 4. Go to the AdministrationLogin Screen... Go Ubuntu Classic... as far as my experience goes (and maybe it's just because I am recreating my old experience) it makes a difference 5. If you have an external NTFS drive, Important (!): Install the NTFS Configuration Tool. Open it and let it noodle for a while. Enable read write etc. It's easy if you're patient. 6. Install SBS 7.5.4... simply click to move on when it asks you to enter a password for SQL - because you don't have to... 7. Now you'll be able to configure SBS with your SB Account and your NTFS contained music alright. It was a bit of a battle for me, but it's working alright. I *nearly* went Debian 6.0, but I am simply used to the Ubuntu interface, lazy sod that I am. :-) Hope this helps someone out there. It was easy once I simplified it, and I am working it now with the latest hardware (1155 mobo, i3 2100t processor etc). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel D510MO - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.5.3 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87719 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Mounting USB drive in Ubuntu
Install the NTFS Configuration Tool. That's all I had to do. If it doesn't work, there are quite a few threads that go in-depth into what to edit int he system and how to do it, but I didn't find it necessary in 10.04. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel D510MO - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.5.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83727 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] how to find squeeze server for ubuntu
For what it's worth, I run the desktop version as a server on a modestly speced Atom box. I find the user interface much easier to navigate, and you can manage it remotely too. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel D510MO - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.5.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83471 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 10.10 on EC2 anyone?
Ubuntu 10.10 Server in Amazon EC2...? Anyone tried it? Can that stay within the free pricing tier? If so it could be an attractive solution... -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel D510MO - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.5.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83732 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu - mounted drives not showing up in web interface
I wholeheartedly recommend NTFS Configuration Tool from the software center. Run it once, done. You'll never have to edit fstabs again. :-) -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel D510MO - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.5.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81781 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] 7.5.1... worth the upgrade?
i try to keep up with stable releases of SBS. currently running 7.5.0 on Ubuntu 10.04 and generally quite happy with it (one annoying issues is that adding a an album or song to a playlist when a song in said playlist is reaching the end leads to the music getting stuck between tracks), so i was wondering what others' experiences are with 7.5.1... -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.4.2 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79947 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Go easy on me...
1. My box is an old Dell Core2Duo, with SATA connections for drives on the board and integrated NIC card. Useable? absolutely 2. I plan to keep the originals of my music on my Windows machine, and use my backup software to keep an up-to-date copy on this new Linux machine. Possible? totally. there's a package called Samba that allows you to easily integrate linux machines into windows networks... 4. How's SBS under Linux with Apple Lossless? fine. install restricted extras iu run ubuntu, makes it easier. visit the linux forum here. 5. Can anyone recommend a good up-to-date complete beginner's guide to installing Linux? The ones I've found from searching the web seem to talk about IDE and are dated several years ago. I recommend Ubuntu. extremely user friendly. 6. Wake on LAN possible via SB£/Boom connected to Linux server? yes. 7. Finally, what flavour of Linux? I'm thinking one of the flavours that appears in the Nightly list would be sensible? visit the Linux forum. i am a happy Ubuntu user. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.4.2 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78029 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] repositories not consistent
I don't think the repository is the way to install SBS anymore - I think Logitech just wants us to download the .deb file with the GDebi Installer. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.4.2 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux Intel Atom 330 server - Power consumption
I have become a huge believer in SSDs, and given their current price levels even more so. You could say I run my private cloud these days - the servers are aggressively power managed and the OS and SW resides on SSds... the data resides on a redundant Synology DS209 server. My SBS setup runs from 25W to 38W in active state, and that includes the external 1GB drive. If I check it in dormant state it'll be less than 10W. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 10.04LTS - SBS 7.4.2 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75902 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] OpenSuse - Upgrading to 7.4.2
if you go settings-information... what does it tell you you are running? -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76868 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] kubuntu 10.04 beta
i was curious, so i simply installed everything from scratch on a separate drive (ready to immediately reactive old 8.04 and 7.4.1 config), and lo and behold installation was drama free, and it now works very well. no issues worth writing about (yes, the external drive still needs to be given specific SBS permission, easy to do with the NTFS Config package). 10.04 seems geared up to be a very nice release. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76380 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] kubuntu 10.04 beta
Wombat;530011 Wrote: Ubuntu hasn´t a per file info about its version like Windows. If a packet doesn´t change since the beta it simply is final. So there is no final version in a way the wording says. If you have the recent packages on release day of 10.04 you just have the final release. True. One possible caveat: the incremental upgrade from previous releases may not have worked cleanly until the official release. So if you did an incremental 8.04/9.04/9.10 release to 10.04, chances are there are some benefits to a clean install once the 10.04 release arrives later this month. If you have installed a clean 10.04 beta on a machine, it will keep upgrading automatically (and cleanly) to the release version. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76380 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezebox won't find external drive
There are a lot of discussions around this. In 9.x, chances are you have to modify an entry in /etc/fstab I recommend going to the Ubuntu forums and doing a search on USB fstab 9.10 (or whatever your release of choice) or similar. And make sure to keep a copy of the original fstab file. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73274 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezebox Server on PowerPC running Ubuntu
Niklas;497927 Wrote: I have an old Mac Mini (PowerPC) running Ubuntu. Is it possible to install Squeezebox Server on it? It's really the only computer in my house that is always turned on. Regards, Niklas What Ubuntu release is it? In any case, go ahead and try it. These days there'll be a few warning messages that will pop up during SBS installation on Ubuntu, but just charge ahead. You are likely to encounter the USB drive issue if your music resides on an external drive. Easy enough to fix. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72911 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;497188 Wrote: And I think it's pretty clear that Ubuntu or the user is doing things wrong. What userid do you suggest SBS run as and why? At what point in the startup sequence should networking run and why? People with other Linux distros see exactly the same issues, so no, it is not an Ubuntu issue. As Pat pointed out, it is true Ubuntu has changed, however it does requires application developers to implement changes, which doesn't seem to have happened with SBS. And I have not claimed it is a userdid issue. The userid can be Beijing Bicycles for all I care. Once again, for the last time, it is about user *privileges*. and whatever userid SBS is going for these days is not installed with useful privileges, which is why many Ubuntu users need to fiddle around with permission settings manually post-installation to allow SBS to access an external drive that is there to be used by everybody. See attached - it is a silly setting. +---+ |Filename: userprivs.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8884| +---+ -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;497425 Wrote: So your solution, to allow a process total access to any file, despite the permissions on that file, would mean giving the process root. Can you quote where I said that was my solution? Quite the contrary. From the start here I have talked about permissions that allow the application/user to perform their duties, and have been very vocal about the fact that root is dangerous (unlike your example about Apache btw). The fact is that because of unsuccessful installations users are forced to sudo and gksudo around their system typically assigning universal acess to their external devices (check the title of the topic). Not a good thing. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;497436 Wrote: ... 1) Mount the filesystem so that the SBS process can read it. 2) Elevate SBS's priviliges so that it may read any file on the system despite underlying filesystem permissions. You have refused for some reason to accept the first as a solution .. That mean, whether you like it or not, giving SBS root. The last statement is kinda shocking. Why on earth would any capable system administrator... well, never mind. The logic here isn't linear, and starts with the wrong premise that I haveve refused anything. The simple fact is that the admin user in Ubuntu granted the SBS install process root rights via sudo, and it is the up for SBS installation to grant the right permissions so that things work, as they did before. And if you think Linux users haven't been having issues you are in denial. This forum has been full of install issues with 7.4x -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;497446 Wrote: Hell, explain -exactly- what the problem is: Not it doesn't work, but SBS should be able to read from NTFS drives regardless of permissions set on the drive itself. Dude, it works for me. Like it does for you. It clearly doesn't work for many others. I'd rather spend my time looking at their issues than debating theoretical issues with a fellow Linux user whose system also works (although he seemingly doesn't follow the install issues in the Linux forums here). Happy Holidays! -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;497471 Wrote: Theoretical? I thought you said this affected everyone... At this point in time you are trolling, your argument consists of putting words in my mouth I have never remotely used, and absolutes (root everyone) that sadky reveal a confrontational instinct, and your confidence coming from your conviction you are smarter than the entire Ubuntu community put together. Good for you and I hope you are right, you'll do well indeed then. Since I have no idea what your point is I'll move to ignoring you now. Which is a shame because I think there is technical merit to some of your arrogance, but at this point in time you've dug your grave in this argument with it. Cheers. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;497471 Wrote: But it is NOT the job of any package to change permissions on your file system. Incidentally, this is where you show you are both clueless and that you have not read anything I have written. The package does not have to have to change permissions to the file system. It just have to grant itself the right ones given the fact the admin trusted it to do so when it granted it root rights with sudo (and you do not understand basic Ubuntu concepts if you don't know that is what sudo does). It is NOT about changing the file system. it is about granting a user the basic right to access extrernal xstorage devices. Line 1. Check your homework. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
probedb;497002 Wrote: My God this has really gone off topic, well done folks. I got round this by booting into the console and using fstab as per the Ubuntu guide and they're mounting with full permissions again. Not that I can get squeezeboxcenter to work anyways. That is because the start sequence is all screwed up in Linux with 7.4.1. You have to restart SBS every time you restart, or write a startup script that delays SBS start. Try doing this in your command window... sudo /etc/init.d/squeezeboxserver stop and sudo /etc/init.d/squeezeboxserver start After a little while, SBS should then run as OK as it every will under 7.4.1. I do that on the rare occasions that I restart the system. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
probedb;497002 Wrote: My God this has really gone off topic, well done folks. ... well, we stopped discussing Linux religion didn't we? :-) but i think as we discuss the changing behavior of SBS running with later Ubuntu releases, the blame question comes up, and then it quickly becomes whether Ubuntu or SBS dropped the ball, or both. I think it is pretty clear 7.4.1 does something wrong when it comes to Linux, since both the USB drive and the incomplete startup issues (and that is *when* SBS installs correctly, which isn't a given as one sees in these forums) were not present before this release, and furthermore happen irrespective of the user running 8.04 or 9.10 (the way to fix the issues is somewhat different though). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Install Ubuntu Server from USB CD-ROM drive
JJZolx;496421 Wrote: I just downloaded 8.04 and it's installing without a problem. Probably just as well to use this version since it has Perl 5.8 and MySQL 5.0 instead of 9.10's 5.10 and 5.1. Thanks for all the help. As you can tell from my sig, I am all for the move to 8.04 in combination with anything SBS. :-) I used 9.10 for a weekend on this machine, and then decided against it. I could have gone back to 9.04, which also worked well, but why not stick with the LTS release. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72711 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Install Ubuntu Server from USB CD-ROM drive
The place to ask should be the Ubuntu Forums, and search for the mobo. There are the oddest hardware combos out there. I installed Ubuntu on 2 8 year old computers, and the forums helped. I know this is stating the obvious, but truly comb through the BIOS settings to make sure no weird setups have been made (one can configure IDE/SATA etc to do the strangest things). If everything fails, grab an eternal USB CD-ROM drive somewhere. :) -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72711 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
That's not how Unix permissions work. root installed apache2... but it is owned by www-data. My understanding is that indeed you should never, ever do anything as root. There are several system folders that are and should be locked for any user other than root on the system, for good reasons. And no human user should be root. Ever. I have not advocated anywhere messing around with root, quite the contrary, the fact that in thne end we are forced to dabble around with gksudo nautilus (or as yours may go) shows that there is something broken with the way it is implemented anyhow, because you force users into a basic violation of your sacred security policy to get a plain vanilla system going. What I stated was something different: let us say user (or let us say account) pablo is the main admin with the most privileges on a machine (mind you, he'd still never get access to root according to Ubuntu policies, in theory, but of course we know that is only a gksudo command away. The account maps to a user ID which belongs to a group. If user/account pablo installs SBS, the account/group's privileges should be propagated to the installed software automatically. It does not make sense to do it any other way. If my account can access a USB drive, the software I install should be able to access that drive too. Anything else it utterly unintuitive. SBS's installation from a .deb has no clue where your music library is. That is set by the user later, It should not willy-nilly be guessing oh, you have an external USB drive,let me change permissions on it! There is a big difference with configuration of settings (which naturally the user must do) and access to system resources. When a user installs a software package, the software package should have access to the resources the user has naturally access to. There is no added security in that. It's just inconvenient and utterly user unfriendly. That would be a huge violation of debian security policy I do not believe that. The security policy is concerned with protecting root directories, for very good reason. A user installed USB drive is not a protected resource. If and when a root directory exists on the USB drive, then by all means that can (and is) protected. But anything I as a user mount to my /home/media...whatever, it should be there for every application I have the right to start. Anything else is confusing and simply not an intuitive security policy. The whole idea of Linux security is to protect root resources from malicious (or unintentional) attack. That principle is not violated by propagating user access rights to resources to software those users install, since in Ubuntu they are not root in any normal operation (it seems you run your system differently, and more power to you, mind you). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
i truly did not intend to side-track this thread with anything that resembles OS religion. however i do think that something like trying to use SBS brings to light the issues with the different user friendly Linux distros, that's all. i shall not perpetuate the OS philosophy aspect of the topic. I just will recommend anyone in any release dealing with USB drives in Ubuntu check for the ntfs settings app and look in the Ubuntu Forums for discussions on it. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;495888 Wrote: SBS does -NOT- mount your drive, it does NOT enforce permissions on your drive: the kernel does, and it does so with the guidance that Ubuntu has when seeing new removable media. I will keep this short - SBS should not mount my drive and I have never claimed I expect it to. *I* already did. Then I install SBS. It is an application, a group, whatever you call it it is *not* a human user, and if I install it my privileges should propagate - and *that* truly is the Unix philosophy. As a user I can not go above my privileges (which in Ubuntu world in theory means root level, somewhat flawed as I have *always* claimed that philosophy is), and in Unix always meant that everything I install gets my privileges - no more, no less. That is the whole philosophy of access rights and security policies. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
snarlydwarf;495746 Wrote: It's nothing special to SBS for that. MANY packages install their own user id for permissions purposes. The 'odd' thing is that Ubuntu wants to play sort of like Windows: when you plug in removable you get to use it to copy files, etc. The problem is that it isn't you that needs to read the drive, it is SBS. This is a different user ID than you. Likewise, the loading of an external drive may be delayed until a user logs in so that it knows who to assign it to. And for extra fun, your drive may be NTFS and not really happy with having Unix permissions. I don't use Ubuntu, I'm a hardcore debian user, and my SBS server has no display, so no gnome.. I just put the USB drive in /etc/fstab and it's mounted at boot. The files/directories on that drive are owned by me and readable by 'world', so SBS has no problems with it. It is, of course, ext3s, since I don't care if Windows can read it. The SBS-Ubuntu combo never had this issue (which has popped up with alarming frequency in the last 2 months) before the 9.10 and 7.4.1 mix though. I never had to struggle with permissions before - the issue was about mounting the USB drive. Once it mounted permissions were OK. In 9.10 and 7.4.1 suddenly there was the added permissions element. My experience has been with an NTFS drive, hence my ntfs-settings pointer before; and I can not talk about other configurations. I know many moons ago as a newcomer to Ubuntu (and the thread is probably in the archives somewhere) I had issues with the Seagate drive I still use because there was a well-documented issue at the time, but that has been fixed since. I do think that the whole volume mounting thing with Ubuntu is a major issue, and the Ubuntu forums speak volumes on the issue. It is a major problem standing in the way of wider adoption because it is a major first hurdle. Then come other issues (scanners, webcams etc). And the solution seems to be slightly different based on the system flavor, which is not a good thing either. As to permissions, and package that is installed by the admin id ought to be smart enough to make sure that sufficient resource permissions are awarded to it for system wide operation. Otherwise the installation procedure can only be regarded as buggy. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
What type of drive do you have? If it is an older USB drive there might be compatibility issues when mounting it. As you well know, successfully mounting it is just half the battle, you also need to be able to set it up so all users can take advantage of it, and SBS needs read/write access to be happy. I agree it does not make any remote sense the way it is set up right now for Ubuntu installs... the fact you install software via your regular admin id and that then it needs a special system permission seems pretty unique to SBS, my assumption is certain 9.10 release adjustments (Linux kernel? Gnome?) have not been made in the SBS software. I do hope by the time I migrate this machine -which doubles as my SBS engine- to 10.04LTS the available stable version of SBS (8.0?) will have made the transition. It is *both* a Linux and SBS issue. I do have a 1 page command cheatsheet for Linux I keep so that I know what I did to get things to work. It is quite annoying that about 30% of it needs to be re-written from release to release. And yes, USB drive handling was one of the major differences. It got better with 8.04 to 9.04, something changed in 9.10. And that is within Linux, because I also have to mount my NFS partition differently (some experts in the Ubuntu Forums don't quite buy it, but I have the results and the Grsync logs to prove it). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] squeezeboxserver, mysql5.1 and ubuntu 9.10
I had 9.10 and SB7.4.1 running fine a few weeks ago, but in the end decided against 9.10 on my always-on server and web-browsing machine. The installation procedure, I remember, was sort of strange because of several SQL software installation prompts (want to install this? define a password? continue?), which makes me think one wrong keystroke can cause major installation problems. If you have those issues, I would try to install everything from scratch again and see if the result is the same. Several people have installed the combo successfully, so it should work (unless you have your collection on a USB drive, in which case some more fiddling will be required...) -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72527 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
I seem to remember running ntfs-settings fixed this issue for me, but I may have run some other command on top. I think I shared my experiences in another thread. In the meantime I have gone back to 8.04LTS, where no special anything was required to get 7.4.1 to access the USB drive with the local copy of the music collection (the mastercopy is on a Synology DS209 RAID1 drive I use for backups). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu Netbook Remix client
if you are trying to play music that resides on your home server on a netbook using Rhythmbox it all has very little to do with the Squeezebox setup. it means that you have to set up the music folder for sharing, and then whatever client wants to access it can access it. so right click on your music folder, and set up sharing. among Ubuntu machines NFS is easy to set up, but Samba is more flexible in the end for shared environments. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72348 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu Netbook Remix client
samyterje;493602 Wrote: Agree pablolie, I can read music from UNR if she is in a shared folder on the network ;-) But I'm planning to have one Squeezebox server on a Windows Media Server and I have thought to use this as single music jukebox server for 2 sueezebox boom and for 1 PC and 1 netbook. Do you really think that it make no sense to all pass through squeezebox server ? Perhaps you're right but it looks not so nice on my side !? The only way to play music off your Squeezeboxserver (and it truly does not matter which platform the SBS itself runs on) on any computer-based client is via the Softsqueeze-etc client software. And support on any Linux-based system for these soft players is pretty much non-existent these days, which is a shame. I have often stated I would *pay* for a soft client, and yet it seems to be something that unfortunately is not a development focus. So I think you expect something that was implicitly sold to many of us: open source, flexibility, soft players... it *should* work. It is a shame it doesn't quite. Even when you get it to work it will not quite synch right very often. I have given up for now, shame. I truly think it a major differentiator for the SB concept that is being neglected. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72348 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advice on server (debian or freebsd)
I use Ubuntu (desktop) and disable many of the services. It installs on barely 4GB. Ubuntu also has a stripped down server edition. I have played around with every Ubuntu release, but going forward will stick to long term support releases. My SB server runs 8.04 (duh see my sig), downgraded from 9.04-9.10. It is rock solid. It also integrates very easily with the inevitable Windows or Mac machine that is likely to infest your household from time to time. :-) Ubuntu 8.04 also provides very nice GUI functionality in a very lightweight way (I found 9.10 to be noticeably slower) and runs very well on machines with very humble hardware specs. An acquaintance of mine just opened a hair salon, and she is joyous with the donation of an 8 year old laptop running 8.04, which runs all the apps she needs for a small business, and between Google apps, open community and such you don't have to spend a cent on software (well, I make a point to make Paypal donations to several projects). And the other great thing about Ubuntu are the forums. They are incredibly helpful and active, and every problem I have ever run into someone else has already had, even though sometimes it takes a while to find the right thread. Then again, the stuff that speaks for Ubuntu also mostly goes for Debian. If it wasn't for Ubuntu I'd definitely run Debian, and I am quite likely to use it soon anyhow. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72274 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] 64 bit Ubuntu with SBS 7.4.1 and USB drive
Indeed many of us have had to fight epic battles as we upgraded to later Linux versions (Ubuntu 9.10) and 7.4.1... several things seem to have changed on either end that make smooth installation more... shall we say interesting? On the positive side, it re-acquaints us with the terminal window and sudo commands... :-) Your information is valuable - once the dust settles with major upgrades in both Ubuntu and SBS (can anyone say 8.0) we truly should all help in rewriting the wiki, which seems a tad dated in several areas when it comes to Linux distributions. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72259 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] 64 bit Ubuntu with SBS 7.4.1 and USB drive
pfarrell;492668 Wrote: pablolie wrote:[color=blue] Real men run Debian on their servers. Looks tons like Ubuntu, but is more stable (i.e. changes more slowly). I think even 7.5 when its released will justify some changes to the Wiki. At least for me the 7.4 to 7.5 upgrade was pretty easy. I have been checking out Debian and may make the plunge. My issue is that whatever I chose also doubles as my early morning web browser, so a decent GUI is a requirement, and Ubuntu makes it so easy (and happens to be based on Debian of course). But I have no religion there. 7.5... isn't it 8.0 that supposedly will be required to support the SBTouch sometime this month? I guess I am a tad confused by all the parallel releases... -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72259 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't access external HDD in Squeezebox Server
You have to edit your fstab file, which is tricky and varies depending on Linux distribution and release. It is unfortunate. I entered some information on how I had 7.4.1 and Ubuntu 9.10 work together in another thread, but ultimately I decided to go back to a stable Ubuntu release (8.04) that lives quite happily with SBS. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71640 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 9.10 and SBS 7.4.1 experiences?
blazingtortoise;491251 Wrote: And now I am wondering why Firefox 3.5 looks kind of ugly, fonts wise, on this computer while it looks sharp on the others. Very strange. If you have a look in the Ubuntu software center there is a package called Ubuntu restricted extras, it contains bits and bobs they can't include by default. Part of the package is the fonts that will improve the look of Firefox. Simon. Thanks I had that installed though. There are several tracks going on in UBuntu forums about file conflicts with Firefox 3.5 fonts. I just went back to something stable. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71869 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Help with m4a in squeezecenter
Strange - with my utterly standard config and without doing anything special I have not had m4a issues again. I have learned to make sure I install the restricted library before I install SBS, and things seem to work automatically always. I just have a very few M4a albums from iTunes legacy (which I have abandoned). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45387 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
I posted some advice in a different topic in here. I reverted back to an old install, even though I got everything to work. I was just not happy with certain aspects of deploying 9.10 on this machine - it seemed more sluggish, and the Firefox 3.5 fonts looked very jagged to my eye. Something isn't quite right about it when it comes to running it on this particular computer... I have left it on others though. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Repositories for 7.4.1?? They seem to have changed
Synaptic in Ubuntu seems to find the right version every time. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71697 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 9.10 and SBS 7.4.1 experiences?
Thanks for the 64 bit warning. I used to run Ubuntu 64 bit, but no longer do. In general I thought there were too many battles to fight. I have several machnes that dual-bood with Ubuntu 32 bit, and all of them except for my SBS server (which doubles as a web browser) now run 9.10. So I was thinking it was time to have 9.10 across the board. I am just in the process of bringing SBS up (I just did the 9.10 upgrade). Based on this thread, and since I am running 9.10-32, I assume I shall be just fine. :-) -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71869 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SCC 7.4.1 can't see my USB drives?
I had never had an issue with this, and now with 9.10 and 7.4.1 voila! SBS does not see my USB drive, either. I have tried several things to no avail. Since I installed SBS from my user id, it seems utterly asinine for SBS to want to be a different user and have drives mounted on it... The tricks in Ubuntu forums aren't working. And of course the password to the sbs user isn't readily available, which probably would be the easiest way to get this accomplished. Dammit. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71700 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 9.10 and SBS 7.4.1 experiences?
Well, this is *crap*. The clean install works. But if I try the preferences folder I had from Ubuntu 9.04 and SBS 7.4.1 into the new 9.10 and 7.4.1 combo, SBS will not start. I assume this is because there has been a change in the way mounting or permissions go from 9.04 to 9.10 (and its interaction with SBS 7.4.1) when your music collection resides on a USB NTFS drive. Oh how wonderful. So here we go again, having to recreate my preferences on all players yet again. And people told me I am crazy when I asked Logitech to provide users with a preferences saving utility that does *not* rely on backing up directories... which clearly doesn't always work. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71869 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 9.10 and SBS 7.4.1 experiences?
I hope this is it, it is rescanning the library now... My recommendation to anyone going for this is that, if you have your music on an external USB drive that is NTFS formatted (and yes, I *could* convert it to something else, but I have 300GB of music in there and this drive will stay the way it is, perhaps I will get a new one), you do some serious reading on how to mount them and correctly edit your fstab file. And there is a *lot* of obsolete garbage out there when it comes to the topic, so take your time sifting through it. My approach was to reinstall 9.10 and, instead of ignoring the NTFS drive (which the 9.10 install process will tell you to do), tell it to mount it right then and there to a mount location you like (such as /media/musiccollection or whatever you already had defined previously). You may have to still fiddle with the access rights in fastab, but at least the entry is already there and thus you don't have to create a new entry from scratch. One sweet day we'll have to stop to gksudo around editing system files to get stuff to work darn it... I mean, this stuff *should* work automatically... -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71869 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 9.10 and SBS 7.4.1 experiences?
Yes, I noticed the SQL 5.0 vs 5.1 thing. I just installed 7.4.1 from synaptic and whatever it did sorted it worked in the end. I have to admit I was worried; then I was busy fixing the NTFS USB drive thing, and finally relieved to see it all worked ok. And now I am wondering why Firefox 3.5 looks kind of ugly, fonts wise, on this computer while it looks sharp on the others. Very strange. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.10 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71869 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 9.10 and SBS 7.4.1 experiences?
I am thinking of upgrading my always-on home machine to 9.10. I have read quite a few threads about aborted scans... Anyone here running the 9.10 and 7.4.1 combo, and if so, is it relatively trouble free? I'd do the usual clean install. Thanks Happy Thanksgiving! -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71869 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu 9.10 and SBS 7.4.1 experiences?
Good to hear - thanks Mitch! -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71869 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] I'm stuck!
yank;484356 Wrote: Platform SME7,Centos based, squeezecenter vers.7.3.4 28402 and 7.3.3.1 (among others) It all begins with the upgrade to disasterversion (7.4.0) and bad results.(Perl CPAN missing modules etc) I did not compiled or changed the server. I downgraded and started from scratch. The program did a new scan and stopped on 11155 songs (from a total of 19762) Message on screen was squeezecenter has finished scanned your music collection. But it wasn't and the clock kept on running. No scan was made on the cover art and there was no motion on the progression bar.I kept it scanning for a couple of days but nothing happened.There is no problem with playing the songs in the scanned part of the library.MP3, Flac, Wave. But I haven't tried all 11155 of them! I tried several times to completely rescan the collection, all with the same result; it stops around 11100 songs -more or less-. I removed the program several times and tried several versions. I removed the cache dir completely but alas; same result. According the log files (serverlog, scannerlog, SME server system log included),first to in debugging mode, there are no special errors. No problems with free memory or disc capacity. And now I'm stuck. Anybody with a suggestion? regards -- yank Is the partition/drive stable? some linux versions can be finicky with that, and compatibility issues do exist. i remember having lots of issues with a Seagate drive initially! i am not familiar with the configuration you are using, so i can not offer more comments beyond that. i am using Ubuntu 9.04 with SBS 7.4.1, and things work (even though SBS needs to be restarted every time I initilize the system, which luckily is not often at all). -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71291 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Ubuntu newbie question
like others have noted, believe in strictly separating OS and data. ideally on a separate drive, but certainly separate partitions. 500G for music certainly sound sufficient, it takes a lot of music buying to get there. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71183 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SqueezePlay for Linux ?
grahams;479002 Wrote: Thanks for the quick replies. I'll try compiling from the svn on Ubuntu 9.10 and see how far I get. Unfortunately Logitech is not alone is using Linux source code and then not giving back to the community. You would be my hero. Set up a paypal so we can show our gratitude! It is about the principle! -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70556 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] What version should i run
as my sigs implies i am running things well now. you still have to either write a script, or stop and restart SBS every time you 9.04 machine restarts. i'd appreciate experiences around 9.10 fro fellow Ubuntu and SBS users. i have installed 9.10 on another machine and have not found the changes to be as overwhelming as i'd been led to believe, so probably my always-on home machi ne will stay at the current level for now. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70622 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezeboxserver, Kubuntu 9.10 Karmic, and MySQL
My oh my. After going through 7.4.0 I am now reasonably happy I have things working well with 7.4.1, a few kinks excepted. However, I am staying right here for a while. I was hesitant to move to 9.10 (even though I am curious about improved UI) and this thread confirms it. The next stable will be my next release for the SBS main home media server. It's working just fine right now. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69232 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Starting Squeezecenter
Open a terminal window. To stop SBS... sudo /etc/init.d/squeezeboxserver stop and, to start it... sudo /etc/init.d/squeezeboxserver start -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70266 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Starting Squeezecenter
pfarrell;476737 Wrote: Bruce S. wrote:[color=blue] There is a SqueezeBoxServer, and usually it will start right up. Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ With 7.4.0 the old habit of having to stop and restart SqueezeBoxServer to allow it to connect to my available music library drive persisted - SBS would start but would need to be stopped and restarted to be fully functional. I just saw that 7.4.1 was released as the latest stable release via download (but not via the debian repository), and wonder if the behavior will change. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70266 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] 7.4 SqueezeSlave and Linux
unfortunately i have given up ont eh software players for now. it is a major disappointment because i think them a differentiator for the squeeze approach. as i have said before, i would *pay* for a working, robust player software. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69338 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Problems with Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger
configuration files re now in var/lib... why do you want to stay with such an old Ubuntu version? -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68992 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] 7.4 upgrade for Ubuntu - Wishful thinking?
Gus;462989 Wrote: So, after reading of the mayhem caused by upgrading, with the memories of resetting all my prefs + plugins still in (raw) recent memory, I'm wondering: Is sitting out the latest upgrade the answer? At some stage is it likely that transferring the prefs and plugins automated within a later update package? Or am I being unrealistically optimistic? If anyone from Logitech can comment, that'd be great! Do you own a lot of SB3s and do you use Squeezenetwork aka mysqueezebox.com? If so, caution ahead, it will be a hassle to enter your account info manually in the SB3s... I'd go for a clean install, by the way, I have to be convinced the preferences are 100% compatible, I saw some weird stuff at first, and deleted it all again. My 7.4 impressions after a week: - I like the Controller UI design, but think some of the navigation very unintuitive. (i.e. getting to mysqueezebox.com navigates very clumsily on the Controller, and different from every other device.) - The SB3 was left out of compatibility testing with the new squeezenetwork as far as the upgrade goes, painful. - Weird stuff happened to that temperamental combo called the Duet: the SBC was convinced the SBR was happy and paying music when in fact it had gone into a coma only a factory reset got it out of. That sums it up. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu 9.04 - SBS 7.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68548 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] 7.4 = Trainwreck
My Ubuntu SBS 7.4 install now regularly drops the library - SN stays on. Very annoying. Guess it also explains some of the scanning issues people see, or the inability of the web browser to start up. Stopping and starting the application seems to fix it. But VERY annoying. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu 8.04 - SBS 7.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68430 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
