Re: Making the move...
First, this isn't all that long -- 98 lines -- but in any case I'd consider: -- breaking out routines for local vs. server connection -- breaking out a routine for when we're just counting records that match vs. returning data -- breaking out a routine that, given a itemList describing a set of fields, returns the data from those fields Some of the rest I'm still not clear on, so it's hard to say. As I said, more art than science, but to me a routine like this is more than five times as difficult to understand/debug/manage than the five twenty line routines that might replace it. Not that I haven't written my fair share of these ;-) regards, Geoff On Mar 21, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Hi Geoff , Wow -- so what does this do? From Serendipity Reference: The findSDBRecord command checks for the existence locked/ unlocked status of a record with the record type and key specified in line 1 of sdbBuffer. It can also be used to unlock a record that was previously locked but not changed or to return a count of the number of records with certain field contents. findSDBRecord is undoubtedly the most complex, but also the most powerful, SDB command. It is the only SDB command that will retrieve information from multiple records in a single call. As such, it is ideally suited to retrieve specified fields from a range of records for reporting or analysis. exactKey (boolean) defaults to true, in which case findSDBRecord returns card id 0 if the exact key is not in the database; otherwise findSDBRecord will return the id for the record with the closest higher key of the specified record type. If fieldDelimiter is empty findSDBRecord simply returns the Revolution card id of the record in word 4 of the result. If fieldDelimiter is not empty, itemList contains a list of field references (one per line) to retrieve. A field reference can take two forms: * a number that resolves to the field's ordinal position in the record (0 = the record key) * an SDB field reference ([Record Type]:[dataname]), which the SDB handlers will resolve to a field ordinal. These two forms of reference can be used interchangably EXCEPT for record types that have no Dictionary definition in the database. findSDBRecord then puts a delimited list of the contents of the fields into lines 2 to -1 of sdbBuffer. setPosition (boolean) defaults to true. unlockRecord (boolean) defaults to false. If true and the record was locked by this user, it will be removed from the locked record table. findSDBRecord can be passed search criteria that must be met before a record is retrieved, and instructed to search forward or backward from the key if the key's record does not meet the search criteria until the first acceptable record is found. searchForward (boolean) determines search direction; default is true (forward). searchCriteria contains one or more lines in the following format: -- field reference,test,target,and/or * field reference is the field's ordinal or Data Dictionary name, as defibed above. * tests: = , ,in, not in, , , =, or = * target is the result to which the item is to be compared; it must be a value, not a reference to another field in the record * and or or is not needed on last line of search criteria Example search criteria (assumes the field is defined in Record Type, TYPE as dataname department): TYPE:department,,21,and TYPE:department,,34 Selects only records where the value of field department is between 22 and 33. If cutoffKey is not empty, findSDBRecord will discontinue the search when it encounters a record with a key cutoffKey if searching forward or cutoffKey if searching backward; otherwise the search will end with the first matching record if recordDelimiter is empty or the last/first record if it is not. If recordDelimiter is empty, findSDBRecord returns information for the first matching record it encounters. If recordDelimiter is not empty, findSDBRecord puts empty into sdbBuffer and returns the number of records matching the search criteria in word four of the rersult if the fieldDelimiter is empty; otherwise it returns the information for each matching record found between the key passed in sdbBuffer and cutoffKey or the last/first record of the specified record type. This information will be found in lines 2 to -1 of sdbBuffer. (The recordDelimiter is used to delimit individual records.) Note that findSDBRecord will return a locked record error if the record exists but is locked by another user. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,
Re: Progress Made?
I'm sorry for Arthur Urban and his experience of perpetual crashing on WinXP, and I'm glad to see Jacqueline's statement that the problem has been acknowledged and is being fixed. I just want to confirm that this doesn't affect everyone: at present I am switching an app I'm developing between OSX and and WinXP machine many times each day, with both machines running RR2.7.0, and for me both are entirely stable. Incidentally I also find that I don't have to zip my .rev files to swap them between machines (I use an external server for both archiving and swapping), which I believe is contrary to some other people's experience. For me it would be interesting to find out what are the exact circumstances causing these crashes, just in case I suddenly create them by accident. But it certainly ain't a universal problem. Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting started with libraries
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:52:22 -0800, Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [some good advice on the above subject, including] I hate to confirm what you don't want to hear; but, yes, it ends up being a messy job for the reasons you identified: creating a generalized handler from two or more similar handlers in different stacks often means changing the scripts in both. To the extent that your common handlers are generic, you might adopt your controls to use handlers in existing rev libraries rather than generalizing your handlers as well as the scripts of controls that call them. Serendipity Library http://wecode.org/serendipity/ includes handlers for data validation formatting, date time handlers, and list handlers in addition to SDB database handlers. The good news: when you are finished, the efficiency you will gain is worth much more than the effort involved. Well, I suppose that had to be the answer - but I just wanted to thank you, Rob, for troubling to reply and give me a bit of encouragement. As soon as my current app is out of the door I will make a determined effort to library-ize my core routines, which are mostly to do with the house style decided on by my publisher, so that apps from different sources give a similar user experience - this means that it all has to be pretty well homegrown.. Thanks Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revXMLfindNodecontent
Bonjour Joel. Hi Ken, On 3/21/06 10:21 AM, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am currently working through the XML docs and am desparately looking for something llike - revXMLfindNodeBycontent ... Sorry, Klaus, AFAIK you can't find data information with the revXML DLL. Damn!!! What a pity :-/ Hi Mark, please add this one to Rev 2.71, I think there is still time for this and I really need it! ;-) Are you dreaming Klaus? Yes :-) Or do you have preferential treatment from Runrev? Yes, my mother-in-law does know the cousin of the women that is celanings the household of one of Mr. Millers neighbours quite well (kind of) :-D If yes, kindly suggest the manager to (censured, I am wasting my time). Actually I filled an enhancement request (#1893) on 2004-07-26 for a revInsertXMLNode treeID,siblingPath,nodeContents and sent a recall on 2005-12-12 but the status is still UNCONFIRMED! Welcome to the club! So, be patient! I AM patient since RunRev aquired the MetaCard engine ;-) I know that I practice medicine but usually not that side! Or build your own externals for xml, xpath, etc. ;o( I wish I could! jg Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DRM for Images and Text in Stacks
On Mar 21, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So while it keeps people who don't have Rev from extracting data, it still leaves data vulnerable to those who do. Exactly the problem... Scott wrote: but I would guess the likelihood of your users owning a copy of Rev is lower than folks' ability to snoop around file contents. true now and confirmed, both custom props and fields are encrypted contains on disk but our assumption that the possibilities of such extraction are low is based on the less than enthusiastic ontology that the number of rev developers in the world of manifest being is small i.e. the statistical chances of theft are low relative to the number of users using the product (or who might try to hack it in BBedit or whatever...) without the IDE... but: remember the Dream World I proposed initially on this thread posits a different ontology: Rev becomes very popular and the number of IDEs in the universe approaches infinity, (excuse the word fun) suddenly the chances for theft jump Isn't there a BZ request for SC-style password protection? In SC setting the password prevents the stack from being opened in the IDE. If there isn't already a request for this maybe someone should post one, with recommendations on what that password property should be called. I just put that feature request in...I didn't know SC had this (I haven't used SC in years) I'm sorry to say I did not exercise due diligence to determine if said enhancement was already there... anyway, enhancement 3404 is now there and was assigned to the engine team. I'm not competent to recommend a password property name. But to get the ball rolling -- at the risk of using metaphorical terms (but why not? we use anchor in html, wizard for a small tool and firewall in net admin, and Tiger for and OS) Would terms related to lock work?: (opening my thesaurus) adjectives for the state of such a stack: (where the property is true or false) Where the propery being true means you cannot open the stack: bolted # like the door to a house lockout # those inside preventing entry to those outside sealed cryptic taboo kapu (taboo in Hawaiian) Prosaic: secure # as in an SSL transaction: completely opaque and unextractable closed # as in a meeting in a room with the door shut restricted blocked Nouns for a stack in such a state: crypt vault strongbox Where the property being true is the default and if set to false, means you cannot open the stack penetrable reveal accessible Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Sarah Reichelt wrote: OK, I have a better example. Say I have a data set and I need to loop through it and extract three different pieces of information e.g. a list of the 4th column in each line, a list of lines that match a certain set of criteria, and a cumulative total obtained by adding a certain column in each line. Each of these could be done in a separate function, but that would mean looping through the data set three times. With a large data set, it is significantly faster to loop once, filling all three new variables in the single loop. If I separate this off into a separate function, then I need a way of passing multiple results back. The alternatives that I see are to use script local variables or to pass an empty parameter by reference and have the function fill it. Does anyone have any other ideas or recommendations? I'd probably use parameters by reference for each of the result values. To me, that's one of the good ways to use pass by ref. But if you didn't want to do that, and also didn't want to use an array, you could perhaps return a list of the result values. If you can find one more character that you can be sure won't appear in the results, simply use it to concatenate the results. For example: function getThreeThings pFrom . return tOne numtochar(3) tTwo numtochar(3) tThree end getThreeThings and when you call it put getThreeThings(tData) into temp set the itemDel to numtochar(3) put item 1 of temp into t1 put item 2 of temp into t2 etc. btw - when are Rev going to implement the etc. keyword ? -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/286 - Release Date: 20/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revXMLfindNodecontent
Hi Sarah and all, I am currently working through the XML docs and am desparately looking for something llike - revXMLfindNodeBycontent There is a revXMLmatchingNode but that only lets me find the node that has an atrribute with a specific value! Do I really have to cycle through the XMLtext or something line by line to find a node by its content? Please tell me it ain't so :-/ It is so :-( I found the best compromise was to put the most important search items as attributes, instead of elements. You can search by attribute. Hardly doable if your job is to only read and compute external (other peoples) XML files ;-) However I agree, it seems to be an obvious missing feature that should be part of the library. I just added an enhacement request to godzilla: 3414 Throw some votes on it if you like :-) Cheers, Sarah Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Acessing button scripts in a HC stack ? - Closing Thread
Hi from Paris, Thanks for all your responses (especially Sarah Jacqueline). I was stupid enough to think that in Rev, the reference bg was invalid, so I didn't even try it. I now have several ways to get what I want. On the comments about WHY I want to convert my HC stacks : 1 - My HC stacks look so DRAB, compared to Rev, 2 - My HC field contents are badly displayed in Rev, 3 - My HC stacks lean heavily on XFCN's and XCMD's, and so they don't run successfully, 4 - I want to leave the HC world (with regrets), before Apple pulls the plug on OS9, and all the applications that go with it, 5 - I want to run some of my stacks on the PC, to be able to distribute them to my family (Family Tree), or my music collegues (Song Catalogue). There are still a few people in this world who insist on using PC's .. 6 - I have unlimited time and patience on my 3 computers, and even after 40 years of programming, I love using Rev. and finally : I belong to that strange group of people who would rather spend 10 days programming a solution to convert my HC scripts, than spending 30 minutes doing it manually ! I will now return to the complex task of parsing HC scripts to convert them to Rev format, PURELY for the joy of succeeding ! When I don't program for 48 hours, I get withdrawal symptoms ! -Francis Learning is living Progress is simply a succession of monumental -ups ! .. but nevertheless Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
Hi, Nice Script! There is just one thing I don't understand? What are the: get /* i Statements for? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave On 21 Mar 2006, at 14:45, Wouter wrote: on Sun Mar 19 16:12:57 CST 2006 Geoff Canyon wrote: /* this is a comment as is this */on mouseUp answer yes end mouseUp Another problem with this kind of commenting is shown in the following cases: /* this is a comment as is this */-function whatever return something end whatever /* this is a comment as is this */--function whatever return something end whatever Both will compile without throwing an error. Only the second one is a valid comment Greetings, Wouter PS another little update (beware of the mail line wraps): function retrieveActiveHandlers pScript put true into tFlag repeat for each line i in pScript if char 1 to 2 of word 1 of i = /* then put false into tFlag else if tFlag and token 1 of i is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of i cr after tList else if tFlag = false then if (char 1 of word 1 of i is # or char 1 of word 1 of i is - ) and */ is in i then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList end if else repeat for each token j in i if j is */ then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList exit repeat end if end if end repeat end if end if -- end repeat return tList end retrieveActiveHandlers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
When closed, does a substack whose destroyStack is true remains in memory ?
Hi ! As far as a substack is concerned, from the Doc (on save, close, destroyStack…) I understand that : even if its destroyStack property is set to true, If I save and close this substack while the main stack remains opened, then this substack remains in memory. If this is true, then I understand that it is not judicious to set « formatForPrinting » to true for this substack. So, for a specific « printing stack » I have to use a second main stack, instead of a substack. Am I right ? Thanks a lot in advance for validating (or invalidating) these claims. P.S. : by the way, is it a means to check if a closed stack (or substack) is still in memory ? Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
Hi David, On 22 Mar 2006, at 12:53, David Burgun wrote: Hi, Nice Script! There is just one thing I don't understand? What are the: get /* i Statements for? /* this is a comment as is this */function whatever return something end whatever This is to force the tokenizing. The script is parsed line by line. The first line of the block comment will be eliminated by token 1 to - 1 of i But the first token of the second line of the block comment will be the first word -- as By adding a /* in front of that line the first token will be function Thanks a lot All the Best Dave Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How can I pass a handler a long ID as a string?
I've never come across this before, and it's got me confused. I have a handler, say myHandler that has a couple of parameters which are intended to be the long ids of objects (actually fields). The handler manipulates the fields, something like on myHandler para1 do put empty intopara1 ... end myHandler I find that this works if the parameters are set in the same context as the handler itself - for example in a 'mouseUp' handler on the card where I've put the code of myHandler, but if I call it from elsewhere with a call like myHandler (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) I find that during the call the engine evaluates the parameter and passes me the contents of the field, and not the reference to the field. What I want is to pass the long id to my handler as a **string**. I can't see why this doesn't work, and more importantly so far I'm stuck for a way round it. I've tried put the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into temp myHandler temp but it has exactly the same effect. What am I doing wrong? TIA Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows Dunce Question (probably OT)
Hello folks. Question here from complete Windows dope. What am I doing wrong? I've installed Rev on PC to test and tweak stuff I've written on Mac. But... any .rev files I see have the wrong icon. Presumably the file association is wrong on my system. I have tried going to properties of file and choosing Revolution as the prog to open the file. But a) Rev isn't in the list... and b) if I then browse for Rev, the PC won't add Rev to the list or associate it with the file. Upshot is, I can't double-click file (without opening wrong program) or drag file to Rev program (if I do, it opens Rev but Rev ignores file). The only way I can open the file is by ctrl-O and choosing from dlog... - and that's just oh-so-last-century... Do any of you Windows experts have any suggestions? Do I have a screwed up registry or something? Or just a screwed up Mac user? Help! Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Option Box
I'm using an option box in my application to allow a user to choose a static list. I'm using the on menuPick handler to save the information to a database. The information saves if you use the mouse to choose the value. The problem is when you a user tabs into the field and then uses the down arrow to identify their choice. They then tab or return out of the field. The data doesn't update to the new value. Is there another handler I should be using? Jeff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Application Browser Anomaly
Go to Rev's Preferences, the Application Browser section. There you can set exactly what you want to happen when you double-click with or without modifier keys. Thanks Sarah, Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress Made?
Hi Arthur, Has there been any progress with the perpetual crashing in WinXP? I personally have made progress: I have not crashed the Script Editor (or anything else) in over a week. What have I done? I've made a conscious effort to apply the changes made to each handler in a script before changing another handler in the same script. If you, like moi, tend to modify more than one handler in a large script before applying the changes, you might try doing what I'm doing and see if you find the SE more stable. Or you might, as I promised RR Support I would, try opening a stack with a large script and start cutting and pasting between the script and a text file at random to see if you can force a crash. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Hi Geoff, -- breaking out routines for local vs. server connection You're ignoring my notes: application requirement: the calling syntax must be identical for client, server, and single user. -- breaking out a routine for when we're just counting records that match vs. returning data Why? It is not used anywhere else but in this handler. Like Chipp, if I find a need for the logic in another handler, I'll generalize it. -- breaking out a routine that, given a itemList describing a set of fields, returns the data from those fields Why? It is not used anywhere else but in this handler. Like Chipp, if I find a need for the logic in another handler, I'll generalize it. And actually, theSDRecordMatches function handles most of that logic. to me a routine like this is more than five times as difficult to understand/debug/manage than the five twenty line routines that might replace it. Where's the beef! Show me the money! Divide findSDRecord into five twenty-line routines and post the result. I must say, Geoff, you seem to have a penchant for splitting handlers when there is no need to do so. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: imagedata in Word XML
Hello Rob e.a. On 19-mrt-2006, at 19:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed does the text of an image contain binary data, but it looks like it's in the PNG format. I will do some testing. If the text of an image is PNG binary data, and the Word file contains only PNG images, I would be able to set the text of an image to the decoded text from the WordXML node. one could also try to simply put the data into an image! - put url(binfile:image.png) into img 1 does work, so this is a least worth a try :-) My assumption is that, just as changing an object's top property automatically changes other related properties (eg: topLeft,bottomRight, loc, etc.), changing an image's text property will automatically change imageData and other text-related properties of the image. I'm a few days away from testing this issue myself. I've done some testing, here are my results: - when an image is loaded, it's text property is not set; when it is imported, it is. - when the text property of an image is changed, the imageData, width, height etc also change. So now I can use the binary data from the Word XML file, decode them, create a new, empty image on the card and set the text of that image to the decoded binary data. Henk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How can I pass a handler a long ID as a string?
I've hit this before. I generally postfix a cr like so: put (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) cr into tParam myHandler tParam Then in myHandler: on myHandler pID delete char -1 of pID -- ready to go now or if it could be a list: on myHandler pIDList repeat for each line tID in pIDList On Mar 22, 2006, at 6:47 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I've never come across this before, and it's got me confused. I have a handler, say myHandler that has a couple of parameters which are intended to be the long ids of objects (actually fields). The handler manipulates the fields, something like on myHandler para1 do put empty intopara1 ... end myHandler I find that this works if the parameters are set in the same context as the handler itself - for example in a 'mouseUp' handler on the card where I've put the code of myHandler, but if I call it from elsewhere with a call like myHandler (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) I find that during the call the engine evaluates the parameter and passes me the contents of the field, and not the reference to the field. What I want is to pass the long id to my handler as a **string**. I can't see why this doesn't work, and more importantly so far I'm stuck for a way round it. I've tried put the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into temp myHandler temp but it has exactly the same effect. What am I doing wrong? TIA Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
clipboarddata[html] problem
I am using a button to put a text field on the clipboard. I set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of the field, then when I try to paste into MS Word, my field formatting does not come through. Instead, the default textFont and textSize for the stack is what determines the format of the pasted text -- I have experimented with this, and changing the field properties has zero effect on the paste, whereas changing the stack properties changes the paste. As an added complication, though, setting the textFont of the stack works perfectly, but when I set the textSize of the stack to 10, it comes through as 12. All other sizes work the way they are supposed to: stack textSize of 9 results in size 9 text in the paste, stack textSize of 14 comes through as 14, etc. Only stack textSize of 10 comes through as 12. here's the relevant portion of the script: put fld wordPath into wordpath put fld letterPath into letterPath put theHdr into fld formatPrintText set the textFont of fld formatPrintText to Bookman Old Style set the textSize of fld formatPrintText to 10 set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of fld formatPrintText set the clipboarddata[text] to theHdr -- * see below launch letterPath with wordpath * (I've tried not setting the clipboarddata[text] and it makes no difference.) I'm puzzled. The clipboarddata[html] clearly is not getting set properly. I am using Dreamcard v2.6.1 build 152 on a Mac iBook running OSX v10.4.5, and Word for Mac v11.2.3. The problem with the size 10 getting seen as size 12 appears to be a Word problem, since the paste into another text app comes through as expected. Why doesn't the htmlText of the field get onto the clipboard? Why in the world should the default text properties of the stack have any effect here? Peter M. Brigham ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
On Mar 22, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Hi Geoff, -- breaking out routines for local vs. server connection You're ignoring my notes: application requirement: the calling syntax must be identical for client, server, and single user. That's fine -- I'm just saying that the routine would look something like: on doSomething pArg if tSingleUser then doSomethingForSingleUser pArg else doSomethingForMultiUser pArg end if end doSomething pArg This way the user can call the routine without regard to whether it's single user or multiuser, but you don't have two big chunks of code lumped together in one handler that can easily be separated. -- breaking out a routine for when we're just counting records that match vs. returning data Why? It is not used anywhere else but in this handler. Like Chipp, if I find a need for the logic in another handler, I'll generalize it. Because it gets rid of a bunch of if statements in your repeat loop. It costs you a bit in that the repeat structure is duplicated in the routine that simply counts, so that's a tradeoff. But your repeat ends up being faster because you aren't doing tests each time through. Further, your code ends up being easier to understand, because one routine simply counts, while one returns data -- more clear. -- breaking out a routine that, given a itemList describing a set of fields, returns the data from those fields Why? It is not used anywhere else but in this handler. Like Chipp, if I find a need for the logic in another handler, I'll generalize it. And actually, theSDRecordMatches function handles most of that logic. Just because something isn't used anywhere else doesn't mean it should be lumped in. If it can be clearly expressed as a single action (given an itemList describing a set of fields, return the data from those fields) it can be broken out, and both routines will be easier to understand as a result. to me a routine like this is more than five times as difficult to understand/debug/manage than the five twenty line routines that might replace it. Where's the beef! Show me the money! Divide findSDRecord into five twenty-line routines and post the result. I must say, Geoff, you seem to have a penchant for splitting handlers when there is no need to do so. I obviously don't know SDB well enough to: -- know what's right for it by my standards -- know what's right for it by your standards -- change code (or propose changes) in it without knowing the context in which the code operates I thought a bit before offering comment. Maybe not long enough ;-) If I've offended, I apologize. It wasn't my intention to cast stones at anyone's house in particular. If you can indulge me for just a moment longer, though, I'd like to throw out an analogy. Look at your comments above. The same thing could have been said as: On Mar 22, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Hi Geoff, You're ignoring my notes: application requirement: the calling syntax must be identical for client, server, and single user. Why? It is not used anywhere else but in this handler. Like Chipp, if I find a need for the logic in another handler, I'll generalize it. Why? It is not used anywhere else but in this handler. Like Chipp, if I find a need for the logic in another handler, I'll generalize it. And actually, theSDRecordMatches function handles most of that logic. Where's the beef! Show me the money! Divide findSDRecord into five twenty-line routines and post the result. I must say, Geoff, you seem to have a penchant for splitting handlers when there is no need to do so. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) Breaking up your comments into paragraphs doesn't change the meaning of what you said, but it makes it clearer. regards, Geoff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Geoff, -- breaking out routines for local vs. server connection Client selection [server opens all dbs as local connections]: replace return with numToChar(29) in itemList replace return with numToChar(29) in searchCriteria requestSDBService sdbBuffer,find,packArguments(9,exactKey,fieldDelimiter,itemList,setPos ition,searchForward,searchCriteria,cutoffKey,recordDelimiter,unlockRecor d) get the result if not word 1 of it and setPosition then put word 4 of it into sdbPosition put it into sdbParameters return it Every db access call has similar logic, but the second and third arguments are unique. To generalize: replace return with numToChar(29) in itemList replace return with numToChar(29) in searchCriteria put packArguments(9,exactKey,fieldDelimiter,itemList,setPosition,searchForwa rd,searchCriteria,cutoffKey,recordDelimiter,unlockRecord) into packedArguments doGeoffsHandler sdBuffer,find,packedArguments return the result on doGeoffsHandler @sdBuffer,serviceType,packedArguments requestSDBService sdbBuffer,serviceType,packedArguments get the result if not word 1 of it and setPosition then put word 4 of it into sdbPosition put it into sdbParameters return it end doGeoffsHandler I've saved two lines in the original handler...for what--the need to look up another handler to see the full picture? Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Geeze Geoff ,
If I've offended, I apologize.
I thought you knew me better than that. :{`)
If I've come off pedantic or emotionally upset, then I'm sorry.
There is no right or wrong answer, it's a matter of preference...and my
preferences are closer to Chipp's than yours in this matter.
Your friend, Cousin Rob
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Re: imagedata in Word XML
Hi Henk, - when an image is loaded, it's text property is not set; when it is imported, it is. - when the text property of an image is changed, the imageData, width, height etc also change. So now I can use the binary data from the Word XML file, decode them, create a new, empty image on the card and set the text of that image to the decoded binary data. That's good to know...I'm still a few days away from testing my logic. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Geoff: on doSomething pArg if tSingleUser then doSomethingForSingleUser pArg else doSomethingForMultiUser pArg end if end doSomething pArg doSomethingForMultiUser pArg is the seven lines I used as an example in my last post, the remaining 90 lines comprise doSomethingForSingleUser pArg Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How can I pass a handler a long ID as a string?
Hi, Instead of doing: myHandler (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) do myHandler (the long id of me) That should fix it! All the Best Dave On 22 Mar 2006, at 14:47, Graham Samuel wrote: I've never come across this before, and it's got me confused. I have a handler, say myHandler that has a couple of parameters which are intended to be the long ids of objects (actually fields). The handler manipulates the fields, something like on myHandler para1 do put empty intopara1 ... end myHandler I find that this works if the parameters are set in the same context as the handler itself - for example in a 'mouseUp' handler on the card where I've put the code of myHandler, but if I call it from elsewhere with a call like myHandler (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) I find that during the call the engine evaluates the parameter and passes me the contents of the field, and not the reference to the field. What I want is to pass the long id to my handler as a **string**. I can't see why this doesn't work, and more importantly so far I'm stuck for a way round it. I've tried put the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into temp myHandler temp but it has exactly the same effect. What am I doing wrong? TIA Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Geoff, Because it gets rid of a bunch of if statements in your repeat loop. It costs you a bit in that the repeat structure is duplicated in the routine that simply counts, so that's a tradeoff. But your repeat ends up being faster because you aren't doing tests each time through. Further, your code ends up being easier to understand, because one routine simply counts, while one returns data -- more clear. The function here is to count, and optionally select data from, records that match search criteria. To count and select in separate logic means parsing all records twice. I did find this logic: repeat for each line itemNumber in itemList put sdbFieldNumber(itemNumber) into itemNumber that should be evaluated once all error checks are passed: put empty into rawItemNumbers repeat for each line itemNumber in itemList put sdbFieldNumber(itemNumber)return after rawItemNumers end repeat put rawItemNumers into itemList and removed from the repeat loop...thanks. Other than that, I don't see much efficiency to be gained here. Also, if you look closely at if countOnly statements, you will find that they are in repeat exit logic, and never get executed more than once. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Why doesn't this select work???
Hi, The following fails when executing: select before line 1 of me or select before me This is in a handler inside a List Field. All I want to do is to deselect anything that is selected and scroll the list to the beginning.\ Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Minimize stack...
Hi, I have a Rev 2.6 in a Debian Sarge distributions, and I tried to minimize my application in KDE, it work very fine, but I tried to minimized in GNOME that is not work. Why? How I can minimize my application in GNOME? Best regards, Gilberto Cuba ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why doesn't this select work???
set the hilitedLine of me to 0 set the vScroll of me to 0 should work. Mark On 22 Mar 2006, at 17:34, David Burgun wrote: Hi, The following fails when executing: select before line 1 of me or select before me This is in a handler inside a List Field. All I want to do is to deselect anything that is selected and scroll the list to the beginning.\ Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML tags in XML
From: Devin Asay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Folks, Is it possible to store html styled text in an xml document and then successfully retrieve the text with html markup intact? I'm working on an application where I need to save styled text in an XML document. I can successfully insert the htmlText of the styled field into the xml document so I end up with a node that looks like this: comments Here are my comments. Some of the text is colored font color=#FFred/font font color=#FFblue/font /comments However, when I read this node in with the revXMLNodeContents() function the html tags are stripped out and all I get is naked text. Here's a code snippet: Devin Use a pull-parser function (see below) Example : put PNLPgetElement(pullThisTag, /pullThisTag, tPullThis) into tPullThisTag for elements: function PNLPgetElement tStTag, tEdTag, stngToSch put empty into zapped put the number of chars in tStTag into dChars put offset(tStTag,stngToSch) into tNum1 put offset(tEdTag,stngToSch) into tNum2 if tNum1 1 then return error exit PNLPgetElement end if if tNum2 1 then return error exit PNLPgetElement end if put char (tNum1 + dChars) to (tNum2 - 1) of stngToSch into zapped return zapped end PNLPgetElement For an array of elements: function getPNLPelements tStartTag, tEndTag, StringToSearch put empty into tArray put 0 into tStart1 put 0 into tStart2 put 1 into tElementNum put the number of chars in tStartTag into dChars repeat put offset(tStartTag,StringToSearch,tStart1) into tNum1 put (tNum1 + tStart1) into tStart1 if tNum1 1 then exit repeat put offset(tEndTag,StringToSearch,tStart2) into tNum2 put (tNum2 + tStart2) into tStart2 if tNum2 1 then exit repeat --if tNum2 tNum1 then exit repeat put char (tStart1 + dChars) to (tStart2 - 1) of StringToSearch into zapped put zapped into tArray[tElementNum] add 1 to tElementNum end repeat return tArray end getPNLPelements ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Dunce Question (probably OT)
On Mar 22, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:37 + From: Chris Carroll-Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello folks. Question here from complete Windows dope. What am I doing wrong? I've installed Rev on PC to test and tweak stuff I've written on Mac. But... any .rev files I see have the wrong icon. Presumably the file association is wrong on my system. I have tried going to properties of file and choosing Revolution as the prog to open the file. But a) Rev isn't in the list... and b) if I then browse for Rev, the PC won't add Rev to the list or associate it with the file. Upshot is, I can't double-click file (without opening wrong program) Any chance this wrong program is WinRAR ? WinRAR uses the same file extension .rev as Revolution does and if it's installed prior to Revolution it would change Rev icons to it's own. My solution was to change .rev file association directly in registry. WinRAR applies .rev extension to rarely used archives (recovery volumes, which can be later used to reconstruct missing files in volume set and only for very specific cases on top of that). So, in my case, because I'm not using such types of WinRAR archives, this solution was fine. best regards Tariel or drag file to Rev program (if I do, it opens Rev but Rev ignores file). The only way I can open the file is by ctrl-O and choosing from dlog... - and that's just oh-so-last-century... Do any of you Windows experts have any suggestions? Do I have a screwed up registry or something? Or just a screwed up Mac user? Help! Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Dunce Question (probably OT)
Tariel - good suggestion, but no. Initially I thought it was something like that because the icons came up consistently with Adobe PDF icons. But I can change the file association to more or less any program using the file profile options. The problem here though is the fact that Windows refuses to let me associate the files with *Rev*. It lets me browse for for a program, but if I choose Rev it just ignores it. (I think I got Adobe PDF icons simply because Adobe begins with A so that was the first prog in the list!) :-( Driving me nuts, this one! Thanks for the suggestion, C On 22 Mar 2006, at 18:02, Tariel Gogoberidze wrote: On Mar 22, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:37 + From: Chris Carroll-Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello folks. Question here from complete Windows dope. What am I doing wrong? I've installed Rev on PC to test and tweak stuff I've written on Mac. But... any .rev files I see have the wrong icon. Presumably the file association is wrong on my system. I have tried going to properties of file and choosing Revolution as the prog to open the file. But a) Rev isn't in the list... and b) if I then browse for Rev, the PC won't add Rev to the list or associate it with the file. Upshot is, I can't double-click file (without opening wrong program) Any chance this wrong program is WinRAR ? WinRAR uses the same file extension .rev as Revolution does and if it's installed prior to Revolution it would change Rev icons to it's own. My solution was to change .rev file association directly in registry. WinRAR applies .rev extension to rarely used archives (recovery volumes, which can be later used to reconstruct missing files in volume set and only for very specific cases on top of that). So, in my case, because I'm not using such types of WinRAR archives, this solution was fine. best regards Tariel or drag file to Rev program (if I do, it opens Rev but Rev ignores file). The only way I can open the file is by ctrl-O and choosing from dlog... - and that's just oh-so-last-century... Do any of you Windows experts have any suggestions? Do I have a screwed up registry or something? Or just a screwed up Mac user? Help! Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Option Box
I figured this on out. I was grabbing the selectedtext vs the label. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Honken Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:32 AM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Option Box I'm using an option box in my application to allow a user to choose a static list. I'm using the on menuPick handler to save the information to a database. The information saves if you use the mouse to choose the value. The problem is when you a user tabs into the field and then uses the down arrow to identify their choice. They then tab or return out of the field. The data doesn't update to the new value. Is there another handler I should be using? Jeff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Editing a VB script from within Revolution
Hello, Does anyone know or can show me how to edit and run a VB script from with a Rev stack? I want to change item's in the VB script and then run it like I am doing with Applescript on the Mac side. I know how to launch an external script from within REV but I want to run a script stored in a field or custom property within REV. answer file Run VB script with OK and Cancel if it is not then launch it with WScript.exe Also, Does anyone know how to get VB scripts to execute with out having the user to instal WSH WScript.exe ? Thanks for any help in advance. Tom Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Editing a VB script from within Revolution
On 3/22/06 12:26 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does anyone know or can show me how to edit and run a VB script from with a Rev stack? I want to change item's in the VB script and then run it like I am doing with Applescript on the Mac side. I know how to launch an external script from within REV but I want to run a script stored in a field or custom property within REV. answer file Run VB script with OK and Cancel if it is not then launch it with WScript.exe Also, Does anyone know how to get VB scripts to execute with out having the user to instal WSH WScript.exe ? Yes, you can use 'cscript.exe' and run it from the command-line. Here's my all-purpose handler for running scripts from Rev: function stsDoScript pScript,pScriptType,pDirectToConsole if pScriptType = then put AppleScript into pScriptType replace ` with quote in pScript switch pScriptType case AppleScript case AS do pScript as AppleScript put the result into tResult break case VB Script case VBS set the hideConsoleWindows to true if pDirectToConsole = then put C:\libVBS_temp.vbs into tVBSPath put pScript into url (file: tVBSPath) get shell(cscript.exe //nologo tVBSPath) else get shell(cscript.exe pScript) end if put it into tResult if there is a file tVBSPath then send delete file quote tVBSPath quote to me in 1 second end if break case JS case JavaScript if javascript is among the lines of the alternateLanguages then do pScript as JavaScript put the result into tResult else put Error: JavaScript OSA component not installed. into tResult end if break end switch return tResult end stsDoScript To call it, do something like: put the uVBScript of this stack into tScript -- or wherever you have your VBS code get stsDoScript(tScript,VBS) if it then answer it end if HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: imagedata in Word XML
On 3/22/06 9:40 AM, Henk van der Velden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done some testing, here are my results: - when an image is loaded, it's text property is not set; when it is imported, it is. - when the text property of an image is changed, the imageData, width, height etc also change. So now I can use the binary data from the Word XML file, decode them, create a new, empty image on the card and set the text of that image to the decoded binary data. Henk, is this code that can be shared with the Rev community? If so, that would be great... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Weirdness Passing Messages
Hi, I have a 2 Stacks, StackMain and StackUtil. I used StackUtil as a library stack via the start using command. In the Stack Script for StackUtil I have the following functions: PutMessage() ListenForMessages() In StackMain Card 2 ObjectX, I do: function InitObject get ListenForMessages(MessageX) end InitObject on MessageX put MessageX into me get PutMessage(MessageY) end MessageX on mouseUp put MessageX into me get PutMessage(MessageY) end mouseUp In StackMain Card 2 ObjectY, I do: function InitObject get ListenForMessages(MessageY) end InitObject on MessageY put MessageY into me end MessageY In StackMain Card 2 ObjectA, I do: on mouseUp get PutMessage(MessageX) end mouseUp If I press the button associated with Card 1 Object, then MessageX gets called in Card 2 ObjectX ok and ObjectX gets set to MessageX. All is fine. MessageY in Card 2 ObjectY gets called ok too, BUT the field is NOT set to MessageY as expected? However if I press the button associated with Card 2 ObjectX, again the MessageY in Card 2 ObjectY gets called AND the field is set ok. All is fine. The message passing has been tested and it works fine in general, but it seems like the following path does not work: Card1:ObjectA:mouseUp --Card2:MessageX:Card2:MessageY does not work. But Card2:ObjectX:mouseUp --Card2:MessageY works ok. The weird thing is that the handlers do get called and I have stepped over the statement that does: put MessageY into me and that seems to work. However, when you select card 2, the field has not been changed. Any Ideas??? Thanks in Advance All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Dunce Question (probably OT)
I have the exact same problem. I've had no luck fixing it so far. Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: Tariel - good suggestion, but no. Initially I thought it was something like that because the icons came up consistently with Adobe PDF icons. But I can change the file association to more or less any program using the file profile options. The problem here though is the fact that Windows refuses to let me associate the files with *Rev*. It lets me browse for for a program, but if I choose Rev it just ignores it. (I think I got Adobe PDF icons simply because Adobe begins with A so that was the first prog in the list!) :-( Driving me nuts, this one! Thanks for the suggestion, C On 22 Mar 2006, at 18:02, Tariel Gogoberidze wrote: On Mar 22, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:37 + From: Chris Carroll-Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello folks. Question here from complete Windows dope. What am I doing wrong? I've installed Rev on PC to test and tweak stuff I've written on Mac. But... any .rev files I see have the wrong icon. Presumably the file association is wrong on my system. I have tried going to properties of file and choosing Revolution as the prog to open the file. But a) Rev isn't in the list... and b) if I then browse for Rev, the PC won't add Rev to the list or associate it with the file. Upshot is, I can't double-click file (without opening wrong program) Any chance this wrong program is WinRAR ? WinRAR uses the same file extension .rev as Revolution does and if it's installed prior to Revolution it would change Rev icons to it's own. My solution was to change .rev file association directly in registry. WinRAR applies .rev extension to rarely used archives (recovery volumes, which can be later used to reconstruct missing files in volume set and only for very specific cases on top of that). So, in my case, because I'm not using such types of WinRAR archives, this solution was fine. best regards Tariel or drag file to Rev program (if I do, it opens Rev but Rev ignores file). The only way I can open the file is by ctrl-O and choosing from dlog... - and that's just oh-so-last-century... Do any of you Windows experts have any suggestions? Do I have a screwed up registry or something? Or just a screwed up Mac user? Help! Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Editing a VB script from within Revolution
Ken, Thanks for the quick response. Is cscript.exe available on All windows computers OR does it need to be installed with some certain software? I have installed so many things now on the PC that I don't know what will work without relying on these other installs. I am off to test your script and see what i can do. Thanks again, Tom On Mar 22, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On 3/22/06 12:26 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does anyone know or can show me how to edit and run a VB script from with a Rev stack? I want to change item's in the VB script and then run it like I am doing with Applescript on the Mac side. I know how to launch an external script from within REV but I want to run a script stored in a field or custom property within REV. answer file Run VB script with OK and Cancel if it is not then launch it with WScript.exe Also, Does anyone know how to get VB scripts to execute with out having the user to instal WSH WScript.exe ? Yes, you can use 'cscript.exe' and run it from the command-line. Here's my all-purpose handler for running scripts from Rev: function stsDoScript pScript,pScriptType,pDirectToConsole if pScriptType = then put AppleScript into pScriptType replace ` with quote in pScript switch pScriptType case AppleScript case AS do pScript as AppleScript put the result into tResult break case VB Script case VBS set the hideConsoleWindows to true if pDirectToConsole = then put C:\libVBS_temp.vbs into tVBSPath put pScript into url (file: tVBSPath) get shell(cscript.exe //nologo tVBSPath) else get shell(cscript.exe pScript) end if put it into tResult if there is a file tVBSPath then send delete file quote tVBSPath quote to me in 1 second end if break case JS case JavaScript if javascript is among the lines of the alternateLanguages then do pScript as JavaScript put the result into tResult else put Error: JavaScript OSA component not installed. into tResult end if break end switch return tResult end stsDoScript To call it, do something like: put the uVBScript of this stack into tScript -- or wherever you have your VBS code get stsDoScript(tScript,VBS) if it then answer it end if HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness Passing Messages
What do these functions do? Mark On 22 Mar 2006, at 18:51, David Burgun wrote: PutMessage() ListenForMessages() ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Editing a VB script from within Revolution
On 3/22/06 12:57 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, Thanks for the quick response. Is cscript.exe available on All windows computers OR does it need to be installed with some certain software? All computers going back to Win98. Win95 (prior to Internet Explorer 4.0) didn't have it yet, but Exporer 4.0 installed it. Which basically means everyone has it. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Editing a VB script from within Revolution
Ken, If I understand this the VBS will run if VB Script is in pSriptType because there is no break after the case VB Script? I just never wrote a switch that way and well, this is the first time I've seen that. What is the difference between straight to console and not? Why is that important? Lastly, I notice that Python is not among the parameters. Is it not a choice or is it so different as to not work in this case? P.S. I just tried a vb script stored in a field and it worked and is awesome. Thank you so much for this. Tom On Mar 22, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Ken Ray wrote: case VB Script case VBS set the hideConsoleWindows to true if pDirectToConsole = then Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness Passing Messages
Hi, function ListenForMessages theMessageID,theHanlderLocation Adds to an Array (stored in a GlobalProperty of StackUtil) as so: MessageArray[theMessageID] = theHanlderLocation If theMessageID is already in the Array and the Location is not already in the data part of the array, then it is appended, so the array looks like this: Key Data MessageX ObjectX of Card 2 of Stack StackMain,ObjectY of Card 2 of Stack StackMain and is called like so: ListenForMessages(MessageX,the long name of me) function PutMessage theMessageID Looks up theMessageID in the Array built in ListenForMessages and calls (via a send statement) the handler with the name theMessageID at the location(s) specified in the data part of the array. As I said the Message handling functions seem to work fine in general, but not when PutMessage() is called from within a message handler OR when called from a different card that the one that called the initial message. Not sure which! Thanks a lot All the Best Dave On 22 Mar 2006, at 19:02, Mark Smith wrote: What do these functions do? Mark On 22 Mar 2006, at 18:51, David Burgun wrote: PutMessage() ListenForMessages() ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Acessing button scripts in a HC stack ? - Closing Thread
Remember to convert the XCMDs XFCNs to revolution equivalents or no operation FIRST. Name the replacements with the same name of the XFCN. Then getting it all to work together will be a lot easier. Hi from Paris, Thanks for all your responses (especially Sarah Jacqueline). I was stupid enough to think that in Rev, the reference bg was invalid, so I didn't even try it. I now have several ways to get what I want. On the comments about WHY I want to convert my HC stacks : 1 - My HC stacks look so DRAB, compared to Rev, 2 - My HC field contents are badly displayed in Rev, 3 - My HC stacks lean heavily on XFCN's and XCMD's, and so they don't run successfully, 4 - I want to leave the HC world (with regrets), before Apple pulls the plug on OS9, and all the applications that go with it, 5 - I want to run some of my stacks on the PC, to be able to distribute them to my family (Family Tree), or my music collegues (Song Catalogue). There are still a few people in this world who insist on using PC's .. 6 - I have unlimited time and patience on my 3 computers, and even after 40 years of programming, I love using Rev. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 30, Issue 57
Thanks Sarah great tip! It works great for development, which I needed presently. I will in the future be making a card which will act as a table listing function for various tables and their respective data sets, and so I will need to change them on the fly, by passing the tab stops along with the table and fields I want to display. To that end I wrote a simple function which converts column widths eg. 1,2,3,4 into tab stops eg 1,3,6,10. I will post it as soon as I am sure I have the bugs worked out. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Mar 21, 2006, at 7:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tabstops are a cumulative number representing the pixels from the left of the field for each stop. If you set them to 120,125 the first column will be 120 pixels wide and all other columns will be 5 pixels wide. I recommend Frederic Rinaldi's revTabRuler plugin which now comes as one the the standard plugins in your Rev installation. It allows you to set tabStops graphically by dragging them along in his palette. I wrote an article about it some time ago for revJournal http://www.revjournal.com/features/tabruler.html. Just ignore the installation instructions as it should already be in the plugins menu. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Editing a VB script from within Revolution
On 3/22/06 1:10 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, If I understand this the VBS will run if VB Script is in pSriptType because there is no break after the case VB Script? I just never wrote a switch that way and well, this is the first time I've seen that. Yes you're right. If there's no break, the case will fall through to the next case. I use this to provide different options to the end user. What is the difference between straight to console and not? Why is that important? Excellent question, and unfortunately one I can't remember! :-) I remember putting it into the code for others that may want to use the option, but I never have. And after looking on Microsoft's site, it looks like it may be no longer an option. So just ignore it for now. Lastly, I notice that Python is not among the parameters. Is it not a choice or is it so different as to not work in this case? To be honest, I know so little about Python that I didn't know if you can execute Python code in a similar way as VB Script. Do you know if it can? I'd love to extend stsDoScript, but don't know what needs to be done. P.S. I just tried a vb script stored in a field and it worked and is awesome. Thank you so much for this. My pleasure! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness Passing Messages
Hi, Update: If I put a breakpoint in Card2:ObjectX on the statement: put MessageY into me and then press the button in Card1:ObjectA and when I hit the breakpoint use the App Browser Window to manually select Card2 (so that it is shown instead of Card1, then the field is set to MessageY as expected, so it looks like the fact that the message handler is being called when Card2 is not selected is causing the put statement to not work!!! Any Ideas?? Cheers Dave Hi, function ListenForMessages theMessageID,theHanlderLocation Adds to an Array (stored in a GlobalProperty of StackUtil) as so: MessageArray[theMessageID] = theHanlderLocation If theMessageID is already in the Array and the Location is not already in the data part of the array, then it is appended, so the array looks like this: Key Data MessageX ObjectX of Card 2 of Stack StackMain,ObjectY of Card 2 of Stack StackMain and is called like so: ListenForMessages(MessageX,the long name of me) function PutMessage theMessageID Looks up theMessageID in the Array built in ListenForMessages and calls (via a send statement) the handler with the name theMessageID at the location(s) specified in the data part of the array. As I said the Message handling functions seem to work fine in general, but not when PutMessage() is called from within a message handler OR when called from a different card that the one that called the initial message. Not sure which! Thanks a lot All the Best Dave On 22 Mar 2006, at 19:02, Mark Smith wrote: What do these functions do? Mark On 22 Mar 2006, at 18:51, David Burgun wrote: PutMessage() ListenForMessages() ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Editing a VB script from within Revolution
Ken, Thanks, So which would the default be? straight to console = or not? I will look into Python. Not sure myself since python scripts use Python or PythonWin to execute. Thanks again, Tom On Mar 22, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Ken Ray wrote: What is the difference between straight to console and not? Why is that important? Excellent question, and unfortunately one I can't remember! :-) I remember putting it into the code for others that may want to use the option, but I never have. And after looking on Microsoft's site, it looks like it may be no longer an option. So just ignore it for now. Lastly, I notice that Python is not among the parameters. Is it not a choice or is it so different as to not work in this case? To be honest, I know so little about Python that I didn't know if you can execute Python code in a similar way as VB Script. Do you know if it can? I'd love to extend stsDoScript, but don't know what needs to be done. Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: clipboarddata[html] problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using a button to put a text field on the clipboard. I set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of the field, then when I try to paste into MS Word, my field formatting does not come through. Instead, the default textFont and textSize for the stack is what determines the format of the pasted text -- I have experimented with this, and changing the field properties has zero effect on the paste, whereas changing the stack properties changes the paste. As an added complication, though, setting the textFont of the stack works perfectly, but when I set the textSize of the stack to 10, it comes through as 12. All other sizes work the way they are supposed to: stack textSize of 9 results in size 9 text in the paste, stack textSize of 14 comes through as 14, etc. Only stack textSize of 10 comes through as 12. here's the relevant portion of the script: put fld wordPath into wordpath put fld letterPath into letterPath put theHdr into fld formatPrintText set the textFont of fld formatPrintText to Bookman Old Style set the textSize of fld formatPrintText to 10 set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of fld formatPrintText set the clipboarddata[text] to theHdr -- * see below launch letterPath with wordpath * (I've tried not setting the clipboarddata[text] and it makes no difference.) I'm puzzled. The clipboarddata[html] clearly is not getting set properly. I am using Dreamcard v2.6.1 build 152 on a Mac iBook running OSX v10.4.5, and Word for Mac v11.2.3. The problem with the size 10 getting seen as size 12 appears to be a Word problem, since the paste into another text app comes through as expected. Why doesn't the htmlText of the field get onto the clipboard? Why in the world should the default text properties of the stack have any effect here? When you set the text properties of a field, the text it contains has no styling of its own, it uses inheritance of the field's properties to give an appearance of styling. Therefore, when you copy that text, there is no particular htmltext assigned to it. To fix that, set the styling of the actual characters in the text itself, which does assign html properties to the text: set the textfont of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText \ to Bookman Old Style set the textsize of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText to 10 This should give the results you are looking for. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress Made?
Chipp Walters wrote: I, too, keep having Rev crash in the middle of programming (twice in the last hour). I was wondering if there's a 'recipe' for this so I can watch out for it? I'm not sure. It appears to have something to do with copying and pasting into the script editor, so that's when you should be most careful. Save a lot. Also, any word on when we can expect a patch? The update release, due out Very Soon. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress Made?
Arthur Urban wrote: It would be great if I could help out. Is there a specific means to generate a crash log? I'd like some confirmation about this from a regular XP user, but it is my understanding that if you get the error dialog from Windows saying the program must exit, there will be a button at the bottom of the dialog offering to show more detail. If you click that, you will see a bunch of gibberish. That gibberish is the crash log, which you can copy and paste into a text file. However, I don't use Windows as my daily platform so if someone knows more, please post. And thanks for your willingness to help. I think they have this one isolated now, but in the future any crashes should always be reported to Bugzilla. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Automated testing
I'm putting together an article and toolkit to help with code base analysis for revJournal, and after slicing and dicing my way through dozens of stacks it had me wondering about the role of automated testing in Rev projects. What sorts of automated tests are common with other languages, and what would be valuable in Rev? Do any of you do automated testing? If so, what do you test and how? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: clipboarddata[html] problem
Le Wednesday, 22 Mar 2006, à 17:21 Europe/Paris, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I am using a button to put a text field on the clipboard. I set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of the field, then when I try to paste into MS Word, my field formatting does not come through. Instead, the default textFont and textSize for the stack is what determines the format of the pasted text -- I have experimented with this, and changing the field properties has zero effect on the paste, whereas changing the stack properties changes the paste. As an added complication, though, setting the textFont of the stack works perfectly, but when I set the textSize of the stack to 10, it comes through as 12. All other sizes work the way they are supposed to: stack textSize of 9 results in size 9 text in the paste, stack textSize of 14 comes through as 14, etc. Only stack textSize of 10 comes through as 12. here's the relevant portion of the script: put fld wordPath into wordpath put fld letterPath into letterPath put theHdr into fld formatPrintText set the textFont of fld formatPrintText to Bookman Old Style set the textSize of fld formatPrintText to 10 set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of fld formatPrintText set the clipboarddata[text] to theHdr -- * see below launch letterPath with wordpath * (I've tried not setting the clipboarddata[text] and it makes no difference.) I'm puzzled. The clipboarddata[html] clearly is not getting set properly. I am using Dreamcard v2.6.1 build 152 on a Mac iBook running OSX v10.4.5, and Word for Mac v11.2.3. The problem with the size 10 getting seen as size 12 appears to be a Word problem, since the paste into another text app comes through as expected. Hi Peter, Why doesn't the htmlText of the field get onto the clipboard? I recently discovered that, after select text of fld suchField : 1 - put the selectedText into fld essai -- doesn't keep format when paste 2 - put the selection into fld essai -- idem 3 - set the clipboardData[text] to the selectedText -- idem 4 - set the clipboardData[text] to the selection -- idem BUT : 5 - copy the selectedText -- paste in Word remains formatted 6 - copy the selection -- remains formatted (Mac G4 ; 0SX 10.2.8 ; RR ; Word 10.1.0) Best regards from Grenoble André Why in the world should the default text properties of the stack have any effect here? Peter M. Brigham ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: imagedata in Word XML
Ken, putting binary data from a Word XML file into an image on a Rev card is quite straightforward. There is a node w:binData containing the image data. put revXMLNodeContents(treeID, node) into theData create img put it into theImg set the text of image theImg to base64Decode(theData) The hard part of course is to parse Word XML in a proper manner. I'm working on that right now. I'll see where I get. If it works OK, I'm willing to share my code, of course. Henk On 22-mrt-2006, at 19:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done some testing, here are my results: - when an image is loaded, it's text property is not set; when it is imported, it is. - when the text property of an image is changed, the imageData, width, height etc also change. So now I can use the binary data from the Word XML file, decode them, create a new, empty image on the card and set the text of that image to the decoded binary data. Henk, is this code that can be shared with the Rev community? If so, that would be great... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
MVC in Rev?
I've been reworking my framework and its data management engine to explore ways it can shorten my development time even more. Since MVC is the buzzword du jour, I've been looking into ways of implementing MVC in Rev. Factoring code, data, and presentation is generally easy in Rev, and with getProp and setProp it's not hard to establish triggers for updating UI elements. But as for MVC per se, I'm not yet certain that particular OOP pattern is a good fit for Transcript. With Cocoa it makes a lot of sense, mostly because Cocoa is inherently OOP and the MVC classes are built in from the ground up. There it fits like a glove; in fact, it *is* the glove. But if we step back from the specifics of MVC implementations in other languages and look instead to the goals it serves and the benefits it provides, I'm left wondering: Are there simpler ways to get the same productivity benefits in Rev without adhering to formal definitions of MVC for other languages? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: Hinduism Today Digital Edition Credits
The Hinduism Today Digital Edition remote client PDF downloader and back issues manager will be released on April 1st. Code name Brazil (smile). More later... Bottom line for today's announcement: Your Name May Be In the Credits! more below: - While I have not offered much to others on this list through the years, we have received a lot.. Our small attempt to give back is in the About field where we have major credits for Rev. 250,000 unique IP's hit our web sites every month, factor out multiple rotated IP's on single proxy session we may have real visitor count of about 220,000 a month. It's not Newsweek, but is also not peanuts. Of course just because people bums into your site doesn't mean anything... but, suffice it to say, our Revolutiobn application will be getting a some exposure and much of this is from within the India, Indian-American, Southeast Asian, Hindu software developer world, which is huge. If you DO NOT want to be on this list please email me right away... (off list of course) If you DO want to be on this list, email me the web site URL that we should use to link your name... We have set up a referrals CGI, people clicking on the links in the about field will be logged on our server (transparently) and then redirected to your site. I will be able to get stats on click thrus... This whole thing, top to bottom is Rev driven including all the CGIs, with a PostGRESQL back end on the web server. Please email me off list with your proper name and web site you want your link to go to. I've tried to include all the great ones who have been helping all of us for over 5 years. If you see some name missing of someone who has done yoeman service to ll of us.. please send that. If you prefer only your company name that's also fine... let me know. Of course, if you don't want to be on the list we can remove your name. === Hinduism Today Digital Edition Application and Web Services Developed by Andre Alves Garzia, Niteroi, Brazil With code library contributions from: Ken Ray, Sons of Thunder (libXML); AltuitInc (altSplash.rev); Dan Shafer SmartEbooks; Shao Sean (getMXRecords) Created in and driven by Runtime Revolution. REV LOGO HERE: Appreciation Thanks to the members of the Revolution users community for their generous technical support: Richard Gaskin, Fourth World (for Leading the Way); Pierre Sahores, France; Frederic Rinaldi, Many Bases, France; Ro Nagey, Royal Software Inc.; Ken Ray, Sons of Thunder; Scott Rossi, Tactile Media; Jan Schenkel, Professional Software; Sarah Reichelt, educator; Klaus Major, Germany; Rob Cozens, Serendipity Software; Jacqueline Landman Gay, HyperActive Software; Troy Rollins, RPSystems, Ltd. Chipp Walters, Altuit; Hugh Senior, The Flexible Learning Company, UK; Jerry Daniels, Daniels and Mara; Geoff Canyon, Inspired Logic; Shao Sean, Canada; Andu Novac, Archeopterix Engineering; Eric Chatonet, So Smart Software, France; Monte Goulding, Sweat Technologies and many others. == [Who did I miss?] Best Wishes from Hawaii Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Sarah, Mark, et al: arrays are things that don't come naturally to me, so I probably ignore them when they would be useful. Arrays, in the traditional sense (ie: element(1)...element(n)), were part and parcel of my programming instruction in BASIC and my first professional programming in FORTRAN; but I rarely use them today. But Transcript keyed arrays make wonderful run-time tables. SDB Client/Server uses: local clientDbList -- array by clientId:dbId1, dbId2, etc local dbClientList -- array by dbId:client id,writeAccessType,current position local indexList -- array by dbId:cardIndex local lockedRecordList -- array by dbId: record id, client id local sdbDbPathList -- array by dbId: db stack path, autoLockOn, readLocksEnforced local sdbFieldDelimiter -- array by record type local sdbFieldEdits -- array by record type local sdbFieldList -- array by recordType: field name list local sdbTranslationList -- array by clientId: 1=ASCIIANSI, 0=None, or -1=ANSIASCII + tab ipcProtocol [tp,ae,pc,dc,sf] so... clientDbList[sdbClientId] gives me a list of the ids of all dbs the client has open dbClientList[sdbDbId] gives me a list of all clients using the db, including access type current record position indexList[sdbDbId] gives me the index to the db lockedRecordList[sdbDbId] gives me a list of the ids of all locked records along with the id of the user with the lock etc. I find this very powerful and easier to implement than alternative syntax. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How can I pass a handler a long ID as a string?
Yes, Dave's suggestion works in context - but my problem that the context of the handler is different from that of the field whose id I want to pass as a parameter: this has to be true if the handler is to be at all worthwhile, as it does its work on ids of objects from various stacks etc. That's where the difficulty lies. Geoff Canyon's idea of making sure the RR engine can't parse the id reference seems to be the way to go: I've hit this before. I generally postfix a cr like so: put (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) cr into tParam myHandler tParam Then in myHandler: on myHandler pID delete char -1 of pID -- ready to go now or if it could be a list: on myHandler pIDList repeat for each line tID in pIDList Although somehow I would expect there to be a way of passing a 'parse- able' string **as** a string, but apparently not. Thanks to both of you. Graham On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:09:33 +, David Burgun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Instead of doing: myHandler (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) do myHandler (the long id of me) That should fix it! All the Best Dave On 22 Mar 2006, at 14:47, Graham Samuel wrote: I've never come across this before, and it's got me confused. I have a handler, say myHandler that has a couple of parameters which are intended to be the long ids of objects (actually fields). The handler manipulates the fields, something like on myHandler para1 do put empty intopara1 ... end myHandler I find that this works if the parameters are set in the same context as the handler itself - for example in a 'mouseUp' handler on the card where I've put the code of myHandler, but if I call it from elsewhere with a call like myHandler (the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack) I find that during the call the engine evaluates the parameter and passes me the contents of the field, and not the reference to the field. What I want is to pass the long id to my handler as a **string**. I can't see why this doesn't work, and more importantly so far I'm stuck for a way round it. I've tried put the long id of fld myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into temp myHandler temp but it has exactly the same effect. What am I doing wrong? Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: When closed, does a substack whose destroyStack is true remains in memory ?
On 3/22/06 6:32 AM, André.Bisseret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! As far as a substack is concerned, from the Doc (on save, close, destroyStack) I understand that : even if its destroyStack property is set to true, If I save and close this substack while the main stack remains opened, then this substack remains in memory. Yes, this is true - actually when you loaded the mainstack, all of its substacks get loaded into memory automatically and can't be purged until the mainstack itself is closed. P.S. : by the way, is it a means to check if a closed stack (or substack) is still in memory ? Well, as I mentioned above, closed substacks are still in memory if the mainstack is, so you could check for the mainstack in the windows or in the stacks to see if it is in memory. You can also use the mainstacks to get a list of stacks that are in memory. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keeping windows together on Windows XP
On 3/22/06 4:33 PM, Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or is it rather difficult to keep a number of different windows (stacks) together on Windows XP without the possibility of a window from another application getting in between them? For example, I have a mainstack, a couple of palettes, and a kind of homegrown backdrop. I can force the palettes to the front, the mainstack to the middle and the backdrop to the back, but I can't stop for example a Windows Explorer window from getting in between the two non-palette stacks. What I would like is to take charge of the whole front of the screen while my app is active - is this possible? Haven't found anything about it in the RR docs. I know about the resumeStack message but I'm not sure if I could use it to accomplish what I want. This is a problem on OS X too, Graham. Unfortunately there isn't a way to do this without reopening all of your stacks as soon as one gets a resumeStack message (and that has other unwanted effects - both visual and not). However you're not alone - this happens with Word, Excel, and a whole host of other applications that have multiple windows up. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Message Box ?
Hi All, I'm a newbie reading through Dan Shafer's ebook. My question has to do with page 273 of the book which states that typing (open file MyToDo.txt) into the message box will create a file if none exisits. Nothing gets created when I do this. All that happens is the line I entered gets highlighted. No file created and no error message is displayed in the result frame. I have entered other commands and they work ok. Can anyone (Dan) explain what I'm doing wrong? Regards, Tim -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Message-Box--t1327177.html#a3542723 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
On Mar 22, 2006, at 3:40 PM, thulme wrote: Hi All, I'm a newbie reading through Dan Shafer's ebook. My question has to do with page 273 of the book which states that typing (open file MyToDo.txt) into the message box will create a file if none exisits. Nothing gets created when I do this. All that happens is the line I entered gets highlighted. No file created and no error message is displayed in the result frame. I have entered other commands and they work ok. Can anyone (Dan) explain what I'm doing wrong? One common reason for this to happen is that you do not have write permission for the defaultFolder. (It's more of a problem on Unix and Mac OS X systems.) On startup, the defaultFolder property is always set to the folder that contains the Revolution application. Not all users on a system will have write access to that folder. Try changing the defaultFolder to a folder that you do have write permission for (I'm assuming OSX here): set the defaultFolder to /Users/myusername/Desktop/ Then try it again. Chances are it will work this time. If this doesn't fix it, try switching to the multi-line message box and enter: openFile myfile.txt put the result Then hit the enter key. If there is an error 'the result' should contain information about the error. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
set the defaultFolder to /Users/myusername/Desktop/ Then try it again. Chances are it will work this time. If this doesn't fix it, try switching to the multi-line message box and enter: openFile myfile.txt put the result Then hit the enter key. If there is an error 'the result' should contain information about the error. Verified I have permissions (Win XP) and entered the two line above in multiline. I get: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler If I enter closeFile command i get result of : file not open -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Message-Box--t1327177.html#a3543393 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
Figured it out - have to hit enter key twice - then file shows up in my defalut folder. Go figure! Thanks Devin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Message-Box--t1327177.html#a3543696 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
numberFormat
I have this bit of code the numberFormat is not giving me two zeros after the decimal point Why ??? thanks in advance global gConID get fld showid put it into tshowid set the numberFormat to #0.00 put SELECT sum (child) FROM Booking where showid = ' tshowid ' into tChild put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tChild) into tcSeats put tCseats into fld child put SELECT sum (adult) FROM Booking where showid = ' tshowid ' into tAdult put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tAdult) into tAseats put tAseats into fld Adult put SELECT sum (cashDb) FROM Booking where showid = ' tshowid ' into tCash put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tCash) into tCashFld put tCashFld into fld cash Liam Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRELAND ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
On 23 Mar 2006, at 00:25, thulme wrote: openFile myfile.txt put the result I get: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler Hi Thulme, This means you should have a handler on openFile or you can enter in the msg box: open file myfile.txt Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: numberFormat
Hi Liam, You need to perform a math action on it first. So, do: put it into tShowid add 0 to tShowID should do it. liamlambert wrote: I have this bit of code the numberFormat is not giving me two zeros after the decimal point Why ??? thanks in advance global gConID get fld showid put it into tshowid set the numberFormat to #0.00 put SELECT sum (child) FROM Booking where showid = ' tshowid ' into tChild put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tChild) into tcSeats put tCseats into fld child put SELECT sum (adult) FROM Booking where showid = ' tshowid ' into tAdult put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tAdult) into tAseats put tAseats into fld Adult put SELECT sum (cashDb) FROM Booking where showid = ' tshowid ' into tCash put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tCash) into tCashFld put tCashFld into fld cash Liam Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRELAND ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- -- Chipp Walters www.altuit.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
FTP and cross platform issues...
Hello All... I searched the archives and could not come up with a solution to an FTP problem I'm having. I have an OSX Tiger Server configured for FTP. Everything works like it supposed to with both Fetch (Mac side) and FTP Commander on the WinXP side. No problem. However, I've been trying to get the WindowsXP box and Rev to upload a simple text file to the server. No success. I have tried Andre FTP utility, a couple others from the member area, my own hacks using the examples in the rev docs, and finally Chip's FTPer utility. None of them would work. The best I could see was that I was getting a time out error. Then I fired up an OSX Tiger Powerbook. I tried Chip's FTPer utility again, same info as on the WindowsXP machine, and it worked without any problem. Anybody have an idea why it would work on a MAc and not work on the WindowsXP box? Thanks in advance!! John Patten SUSD ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
numberFormat
Thanks Chipp Liam Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRELAND ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FTP and cross platform issues...
Hi John, Make sure that both the server and the client (Rev) are set to use either passive or active FTP. If you enable passive FTP, you have to set Rev's ftp mode to passive as well: libURLSetFTPMode passive You may have to set the socketTimeoutInterval to a really big number. If you'd like to do a test, I'm working on an FTP client. Contact me off-list if you would like to give it a try. Best, Mark John Patten wrote: Hello All... I searched the archives and could not come up with a solution to an FTP problem I'm having. I have an OSX Tiger Server configured for FTP. Everything works like it supposed to with both Fetch (Mac side) and FTP Commander on the WinXP side. No problem. However, I've been trying to get the WindowsXP box and Rev to upload a simple text file to the server. No success. I have tried Andre FTP utility, a couple others from the member area, my own hacks using the examples in the rev docs, and finally Chip's FTPer utility. None of them would work. The best I could see was that I was getting a time out error. Then I fired up an OSX Tiger Powerbook. I tried Chip's FTPer utility again, same info as on the WindowsXP machine, and it worked without any problem. Anybody have an idea why it would work on a MAc and not work on the WindowsXP box? Thanks in advance!! John Patten SUSD -- Consultant and Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.economy-x-talk.com eHUG coordinator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ehug.info Advertise with us and reach 1000 truely interested internet users every month. See http://economy-x-talk.com/advertise.html for more information. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
the shiftkey suddenly doesn't work
I just replaced a crashed hard drive and after reinstalling Revolution, the shiftKey and the optionKey return up even if my shift or option key is down. The shift and option keys work fine, but Revolution doesn't seem to know what the state of the keys is. Thanks in advance for any suggestions! Sieg Lindstrom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MVC in Rev?
to my fellow ludites also not familiar with that particular acronym ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller Looks like great fun! I can't wait to buy one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arming a pulldown menu button -- a hack
On 3/23/06, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we know, at least on Mac OSX, for a pulldown menu button, setting the autoArm, autohilite and Armed to true and applying a different icon to those states does not take effect. Nothing happens.. Worse: In fact one of those properties, if set to true, interferes with the proper action (menu does not open) So, we see now why those properties are not offered in the inspector for such menu buttons. So, I tried this work around... and it seems to work just fine... on mousewithin set the icon of me to 1115 end mousewithin on mouseleave set the icon of me to 1114 end mouseleave on menuPick pItemChosen switch pItemChosen ## do stuff here end switch end menupick Does anyone know if there are any caveats to this? the two mouse activity handlers to not see to interfere at all with functionality. You may want to add a mouseRelease handler as well. This allows for the user mousing down on the control, moving off it and mousing up. I'm not sure that mouseLeave would get sent in those circumstances. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness Passing Messages
Is it a context problem? It might be worth trying to replace put MessageY into me with put MessageY into long name of control I've always thought that 'me' always referred to the control whose script it appears in, but that's an assumption, not necessarily a fact... Mark On 22 Mar 2006, at 19:14, David Burgun wrote: Hi, function ListenForMessages theMessageID,theHanlderLocation Adds to an Array (stored in a GlobalProperty of StackUtil) as so: MessageArray[theMessageID] = theHanlderLocation If theMessageID is already in the Array and the Location is not already in the data part of the array, then it is appended, so the array looks like this: Key Data MessageX ObjectX of Card 2 of Stack StackMain,ObjectY of Card 2 of Stack StackMain and is called like so: ListenForMessages(MessageX,the long name of me) function PutMessage theMessageID Looks up theMessageID in the Array built in ListenForMessages and calls (via a send statement) the handler with the name theMessageID at the location(s) specified in the data part of the array. As I said the Message handling functions seem to work fine in general, but not when PutMessage() is called from within a message handler OR when called from a different card that the one that called the initial message. Not sure which! Thanks a lot All the Best Dave On 22 Mar 2006, at 19:02, Mark Smith wrote: What do these functions do? Mark On 22 Mar 2006, at 18:51, David Burgun wrote: PutMessage() ListenForMessages() ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keeping windows together on Windows XP
Actually, I use the F10 key... tap it twice and Expose will show/bring to the front all the windows in the frontmost app. Also, tab-switching by ( cmd-tab, cmd-shift-tab ) which will show the tab display, then bring you back the the left-most app. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 3/22/06 2:49 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/22/06 4:33 PM, Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or is it rather difficult to keep a number of different windows (stacks) together on Windows XP without the possibility of a window from another application getting in between them? For example, I have a mainstack, a couple of palettes, and a kind of homegrown backdrop. I can force the palettes to the front, the mainstack to the middle and the backdrop to the back, but I can't stop for example a Windows Explorer window from getting in between the two non-palette stacks. What I would like is to take charge of the whole front of the screen while my app is active - is this possible? Haven't found anything about it in the RR docs. I know about the resumeStack message but I'm not sure if I could use it to accomplish what I want. This is a problem on OS X too, Graham. Unfortunately there isn't a way to do this without reopening all of your stacks as soon as one gets a resumeStack message (and that has other unwanted effects - both visual and not). However you're not alone - this happens with Word, Excel, and a whole host of other applications that have multiple windows up. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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OK I did what you suggest, but it's not working:
put theHdr into fld formatPrintText
set the textFont of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText to Bookman Old Style
set the textSize of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText to 10
set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of fld formatPrintText
-- set the clipboarddata[text] to theHdr
launch letterPath with wordpath
This still gives a paste (into Word for OSX, or into a hypercard stack, or into
Word 4 for OS9) in the textFont and textSize of the default stack properties,
not what I set the properties of the field text to. I even tried using
set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of char 1 to -1 of fld
formatPrintText
and that doesn't do it either.
(Just for fun, I tried setting the stack textFont/textSize properties to empty,
and my paste then was in Lucia Grande size 11 -- hunh?)
Next experiment:
put theHdr into fld formatPrintText
set the textFont of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText to Bookman Old Style
set the textSize of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText to 10
put the htmlText of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText into fld testFld
exit to top
This shows the htmltext of the chunk in the test field, namely:
pIphegenia Aardvaark/p
p123 So. Huntington Ave,/p
pBoston, MA 02114/p
So apparently the htmlText property isn't giving font or size info...
I tried the rtfText of the field and of char 1 to -1 of the field and I get
{\rtf\mac
Iphegenia Aardvaark
\par 123 So. Huntington Ave,
\par Boston, MA 02114}
So the rtfText property doesn't give font or size info either.
The rev documentation says (under HTMLtext):
Revolution uses a subset of HTML tags that includes font, size, style, and text
color information.
So is this a bug? Is it something about my version of Dreamcard?
-- Peter M. Brigham
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Original message:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am using a button to put a text field on the clipboard. I set the
clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of the field, then when I try
to paste into MS Word, my field formatting does not come through.
Instead, the default textFont and textSize for the stack is what
determines the format of the pasted text -- I have experimented with
this, and changing the field properties has zero effect on the paste,
whereas changing the stack properties changes the paste. As an added
complication, though, setting the textFont of the stack works
perfectly, but when I set the textSize of the stack to 10, it comes
through as 12. All other sizes work the way they are supposed to:
stack textSize of 9 results in size 9 text in the paste, stack
textSize of 14 comes through as 14, etc. Only stack textSize of 10
comes through as 12.
here's the relevant portion of the script:
put fld wordPath into wordpath
put fld letterPath into letterPath
put theHdr into fld formatPrintText
set the textFont of fld formatPrintText to Bookman Old Style
set the textSize of fld formatPrintText to 10
set the clipboarddata[html] to the htmltext of fld formatPrintText
set the clipboarddata[text] to theHdr -- * see below
launch letterPath with wordpath
* (I've tried not setting the clipboarddata[text] and it makes no
difference.)
I'm puzzled. The clipboarddata[html] clearly is not getting set
properly. I am using Dreamcard v2.6.1 build 152 on a Mac iBook
running OSX v10.4.5, and Word for Mac v11.2.3. The problem with the
size 10 getting seen as size 12 appears to be a Word problem, since
the paste into another text app comes through as expected.
Why doesn't the htmlText of the field get onto the clipboard? Why in
the world should the default text properties of the stack have any
effect here?
When you set the text properties of a field, the text it contains has no
styling of its own, it uses inheritance of the field's properties to
give an appearance of styling. Therefore, when you copy that text, there
is no particular htmltext assigned to it.
To fix that, set the styling of the actual characters in the text
itself, which does assign html properties to the text:
set the textfont of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText \
to Bookman Old Style
set the textsize of char 1 to -1 of fld formatPrintText to 10
This should give the results you are looking for.
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Thanks Andre -- this solves the practical problem (except for Word's inability to actually paste size 10 text in any font -- ah, Microsoft!) -- it gives the proper formatting as specified in the formatting field. I'm still curious about the failure of the htmltext function to include font size info. Is the documentation just plain wrong? -- Peter M. Brigham _ Original message: Hi Peter, Why doesn't the htmlText of the field get onto the clipboard? I recently discovered that, after select text of fld suchField : 1 - put the selectedText into fld essai -- doesn't keep format when paste 2 - put the selection into fld essai -- idem 3 - set the clipboardData[text] to the selectedText -- idem 4 - set the clipboardData[text] to the selection -- idem BUT : 5 - copy the selectedText -- paste in Word remains formatted 6 - copy the selection -- remains formatted (Mac G4 ; 0SX 10.2.8 ; RR ; Word 10.1.0) Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keeping windows together on Windows XP
On 3/22/06 8:40 PM, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I use the F10 key... tap it twice and Expose will show/bring to the front all the windows in the frontmost app. Also, tab-switching by ( cmd-tab, cmd-shift-tab ) which will show the tab display, then bring you back the the left-most app. Didn't know this... good to know, Jim! What I meant was that I didn't see other apps providing this ability to bring all of their windows to the front and so Graham shouldn't worry too much about providing that feature in *his* software. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keeping windows together on Windows XP
so true. On OSX I think you can do the system call to System Events via AppleScript, but this is certainly not a good solution, since users may not be accustomed to this behavior. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 3/22/06 7:04 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/22/06 8:40 PM, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I use the F10 key... tap it twice and Expose will show/bring to the front all the windows in the frontmost app. Also, tab-switching by ( cmd-tab, cmd-shift-tab ) which will show the tab display, then bring you back the the left-most app. Didn't know this... good to know, Jim! What I meant was that I didn't see other apps providing this ability to bring all of their windows to the front and so Graham shouldn't worry too much about providing that feature in *his* software. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 30, Issue 60
Check to see if passive mode is enabled on the client. This is typically what goes wrong. Whatever it is set to on the Win client, change it. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Mar 22, 2006, at 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All... I searched the archives and could not come up with a solution to an FTP problem I'm having. I have an OSX Tiger Server configured for FTP. Everything works like it supposed to with both Fetch (Mac side) and FTP Commander on the WinXP side. No problem. However, I've been trying to get the WindowsXP box and Rev to upload a simple text file to the server. No success. I have tried Andre FTP utility, a couple others from the member area, my own hacks using the examples in the rev docs, and finally Chip's FTPer utility. None of them would work. The best I could see was that I was getting a time out error. Then I fired up an OSX Tiger Powerbook. I tried Chip's FTPer utility again, same info as on the WindowsXP machine, and it worked without any problem. Anybody have an idea why it would work on a MAc and not work on the WindowsXP box? Thanks in advance!! John Patten SUSD ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FTP and cross platform issues...
John- libURLSetFTPMode passive If you're testing things you might want to set both the server and the client NOT to use passive mode, and make sure there aren't any firewalls or routers in the way that might block ports 20 and 21. Also, if you've got the internal firewall running on the XP box (you shouldn't) then turn it off. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Syntax Highlighting Routine - Need help
Rev 2.6.1 Greetings, I made a routine for checking a FIELD from start to end for html tags, then to change their color. Worked great! That is with a small html file of maybe 4000 characters. But then I ran a html file that was about 28000 characters, and found my routine was not so good after all. the FIELD handlers; on rawKeyUp SubHighlight end rawKeyUp on backspaceKey SubHighlight end backspaceKey might not be best, but I don't know if there's any other way to keep track of the contents of the FIELD, except to check on keyup events. Here's the sub; on SubHighlight lock screen put number of characters of field fHtmlEditor into varTotal set the textstyle of char 1 to varTotal of field 1 to plain put 1 into varCounter put 1 into varStartChunk put 1 into varEndChunk repeat until varStartChunk = varTotal or varGetOut is 1 put varCounter into field fStatusBar put char varEndChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 into varTemp put empty into varTagType if varTemp is then put varEndChunk + 3 into varTemp put char varEndChunk to varTemp of field 1 into varTemp if varTemp is !-- then put comment into varTagType end if put varEndChunk + 6 into varTemp put char varEndChunk to varTemp of field 1 into varTemp if varTemp is script then put script into varTagType end if put varEndChunk + 7 into varTemp put char varEndChunk to varTemp of field 1 into varTemp if varTemp is /script then put script into varTagType end if put varEndChunk + 1 into varEndChunk put char varEndChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 into varTemp repeat until varTemp is or varGetOut is 1 or varCounter = varTotal put varCounter into field fStatusBar put char varEndChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 into varTemp if varTemp is then put 1 into varGetOut end if if varTemp is then if varTagType is comment then set the textstyle of char varStartChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 to Italic set the foregroundColor of char varStartChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 to #404040 else if varTagType is script then set the foregroundColor of char varStartChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 to #ff else --set the textstyle of char varStartChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 to Bold set the foregroundColor of char varStartChunk to varEndChunk of field 1 to #FF end if end if put varEndChunk + 1 into varEndChunk put varCounter + 1 into varCounter --put varTotal / varCounter into field fStatusBar end repeat else put varStartChunk + 1 into varStartChunk put varEndChunk + 1 into varEndChunk end if put varCounter + 1 into varCounter put varEndChunk into varStartChunk --put varTotal / varCounter into field fStatusBar end repeat unlock screen end SubHighlight It's not optimized code and there's some extra stuff in there for testing. And I know it's not pretty code either, it's merely a few hours worth of thinking and trying code. I do not know of any other way to check the contents of the FIELD without having to check the entire contents. Does anyone have any ideas, thoughts, suggestions or have done some code like this before, that could help me out with this? Thanks, -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revXMLfindNodecontent
Throw some votes on it if you like :-) Also do it for features request/bug ID 1893: revInsertXMLNode and XSLT routines ID 2809. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
