Re: [users] Re: Setting default bullet style
Hello Twayne, I have lost you here: You can either : Go into Styles, the Selectors Tab, remove the Read Only attribute from the bullet you want to work with, with the right click context menu, and in the right side CSS-Common, set the size there. As I am very interested in this, could you provide a bit more details? is Styles the Styles and Formatting window (F11)? Cheers, Michele
[users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
Hello, With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to save spreadsheets with a password; This is an important disadvantage of Open Office in comparison to Microsoft Excel. I hope that version 3.0 of Open Office will correct this problem and enable to save spreadsheets with a password.
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
Marc BOOSZ wrote: Hello, With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to save spreadsheets with a password; This is an important disadvantage of Open Office in comparison to Microsoft Excel. I hope that version 3.0 of Open Office will correct this problem and enable to save spreadsheets with a password. Marc I do not see the problem. I just created a new spreadsheet. I tried file save as. Put in a filename and under the filename is a check box that says save with password. Click in the box and you will be asked for a password when you try and save the file. Am I misunderstanding the question or is this something you have missed? Thanks Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to co
Hello, On Saturday September 13 2008, Marc BOOSZ wrote to All: MB With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to MB save = spreadsheets with a password; I believe you are wrong. When you choose the file save as command, there is a box in the lower left corner labelled save with password. If you tick that box, you'll get the password dialogue when you continue. Or is this not what you mean? Regards, Hans. jdh dot beekhuizen at duinheks dot nl --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5/080731 * Origin: The Wizard is using MBSE/Linux (2:280/1018) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Setting default bullet style
Twayne wrote:
Hi,
I find the default bullet to be too large. How do you change it to be
smaller? I know about setting it in the List* styles window, but that
isn't what is used by default when you press on the bulleting icon on
the UI.
What I'm looking for is a way to make the bullet automatically smaller
when I click on the bulleting icon.
Thanks,
L
I was jus playing around with that for grins and: Actually, since
bullets are Style items, it does seem like you can change their size. I
am a long ways from any kind of guru or even advanced user, but it looks
like:
You can either :
Go into Styles, the Selectors Tab, remove the Read Only attribute
from the bullet you want to work with, with the right click context
menu, and in the right side CSS-Common, set the size there. The min
seems to be 8px but I managed to type in 6px and got it to work, so ...
apparently you can type in whatever you want. Whether it'll display
well or not is going to depend on your system and monitor settings if
you get it too small. That's way too small for anything I'd ever use so
I put it all back to what it was when I got done.
I used the Gold style for the testing.
Actually, you could even create your own style if you wanted to.
Or, you can go to CSS Code tab and add a line like:
ul li { font-size : 4px
}
I didn't prove that that one works; I saw the 6px I'd type in before and
changed it to 4px and it seemed to stick so, I'm assuming it works
from there. Looks like it does anyway.
It looks like you could change the shapes of the bullets too if you were
so inclined. Ymmv too I'm sure since there are so many variables
between systems here. I'm on XP Pro SP2 at 1024 x 768 on a 19 HP flat
panel screen.
HTH
I found that one can change the default size by:
Setting a bullet on the page.
Select the bullet.
Right click and select the 'Size' option.
Choose the size I want.
Then right click again and select 'Default Formatting'.
TomW
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[users] Re: Having trouble indenting text in documents.
Jim Allan wrote: Joe Smith wrote: Also, it would be nice if Writer supported this as an actual list (a dictionary list in HTML). Writer provides no good way to sort the list, or even to manually re-order it. Highlight what you want to include in your list and then use Tools → Sort Each line(paragraph) in your text will be sorted in relation to the other lines(paragraphs). Or perhaps I am not understanding what you want. The goal is to sort a dictionary list by the head words, keeping each head word and its definition paragraph(s) together. If the list is unstructured paragraphs, you can't use the built-in sort: it won't move the head word and the definition paragraph together as a unit. Moving them manually using cut+paste is a big chore. I figured it would be easier if they were in a two-level list. At least then you could use the move with subpoints function on the bullets numbering toolbar to move whole entries with one mouse click. However, if you put the dictionary items in a list, once you change the numbering type to none, Writer no longer offers the list functions. You have to set a numbering type, move the items, then re-configure the list to not display the numbering. Why should numbering type none disable the list functions? It might be a nice enhancement if Writer could sort a list using the top-level items as the key. Just an observation, not a big deal. I've come across one or two cases where I wanted to sort a structured list, but it's hardly a common problem. Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to co
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Saturday September 13 2008, Marc BOOSZ wrote to All: MB With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to MB save = spreadsheets with a password; I believe you are wrong. When you choose the file save as command, there is a box in the lower left corner labelled save with password. If you tick that box, you'll get the password dialogue when you continue. Or is this not what you mean? Regards, Hans. ONE CAVIAT: The password must have a minimum of at least five characters. More is fine, less will fail. Go figure! Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Re: Setting default bullet style
Hello Twayne, I have lost you here: You can either : Go into Styles, the Selectors Tab, remove the Read Only attribute from the bullet you want to work with, with the right click context menu, and in the right side CSS-Common, set the size there. As I am very interested in this, could you provide a bit more details? is Styles the Styles and Formatting window (F11)? Cheers, Michele I'll try: Someone posted an inline graphic for me earlier so maybe it'll work for me, too. If not and you need it, I can stage it on a web site. Open your project From any view: Click on Styles (left red line) Click on Selectors. NOTE: If you don't see Selectors as happens here, wipe your mouse back and forth over the area (no buttons down); that makes them appear for whatever reason. Scroll down to the Bullet Families Right click the bullet you want and remove the Read Only check. That makes the CSS - Common controls in the upper right area become active. Set things up however you want them. Right click the bullet again if you're done and set it to read only again. Try out the change. You have to remove/re-add the bullets in your page to see the changes. TomW's advice about doing it right on the page works too, except in my case it didn't stick. When I closed/reopened the file the new bullet sizes fwere no longer available. That's why I opted to look in the CSS stuff. Maybe I just missed someting along the way; might take another look at his way. When I looked at the screen shot I have above, the change was't there when I used his way. Please let us know how it works out for you. TomW's way is certainly quicker if it's just a case of my having missed something. HTH Twayne
[users] Re: user interface language cannot be determined (Was: OOo-3.0rc1 download failure)
John Thompson wrote: Alas, now that I have the tarball, extracted and installed, it fails to run: The application cannot be started. The user interface language cannot be determined. The system is set to use English (USA). It makes no difference if I explicitly export LANG=en-US before starting -- it still complains about not being able to determine the interface language. My self-compiled 64-bit OOo-2.4.1 works fine on the same system (Fedora8-x86_64). Problem found, fixed. Installing the rpms as root set ownership for the /opt/openoffice3 hierarchy to root:root with read/execute permissions on the /opt/openoffice.org3/share/uno_packages/* directories set only for owner and group. Doing chown -R root:users /opt/openoffice3/ allowed mortal users to access and read the important configuration directories and start OOo properly. -- -John Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Appleton WI USA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How can I use Excel spreadsheets with an xls extension, modify them and save them with a password. ?
Hello, Rob, Thank you for your explanation. What you explain seems to work with files with the Open Office extension (sxc) but not with the extension for Excel (xls). I wish is to use xls files from Exel, modify them and save them in the same native xls format with the password. - Original Message - From: Rob Clement [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality. Marc BOOSZ wrote: Hello, With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to save spreadsheets with a password; This is an important disadvantage of Open Office in comparison to Microsoft Excel. I hope that version 3.0 of Open Office will correct this problem and enable to save spreadsheets with a password. Marc I do not see the problem. I just created a new spreadsheet. I tried file save as. Put in a filename and under the filename is a check box that says save with password. Click in the box and you will be asked for a password when you try and save the file. Am I misunderstanding the question or is this something you have missed? Thanks Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Convert typed all caps to small caps
I want to create a character style that changes all-capital abbreviations to small capitals and apply it retroactively, after the abbreviations have already been typed in all capitals. Is there any way to do this? Example: Harriet, an FBI agent, turned on CNN to get the dirt on the CIA before going to bed at 9:30 PM. I want to be able to take text like the example above, select FBI, CNN, CIA, and PM, apply a character style, and see them as small capitals. Is this possible? Without retyping or replacing the abbreviations? I'm using OpenOffice 2.4.1 on Windows Vista SP1. -- David Stardate 8703.0 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 03:57, Marc BOOSZ wrote: With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to save spreadsheets with a password; OOo can save spreadsheets with a password. However, it only does so when they are saved in ODF format. (If you want to be picky, add OOo 1.x file formats as well.) One of the major issues with the password scheme that OOo uses, is that if one forgets the password, it probably will be cheaper and faster to recreate the document from scratch, than pay to have the password recovered. (Basically, if OOo Pasword Cracker http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87718package_id=173080 doesn't recover the password within one month, the odds are that it will years to recover the password.) xan jonathon -- OOo can not correct for incompetence in creating documents from MSO. Furthermore,OOo can not compensate for the defective and flawed security measures used by Microsoft. As such, before using this product for exams that require faulty and defective software, ensure that you will not be unjustly penalized for the incompetence of the organization that requires the use of software that is known to be flawed, defective, bug-ridden, and fails to meet ISO file format standards. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] is there any way to do non-ascii sorting in calc?
For my test case, I'd like to sort rows by Column A using the following order: a,e,i,o,u,b,c,d,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,r,s,t,v,w,x,y,z Ultimately, I'll need to sort a list that contains IPA (phonetic) unicode characters in an order different from what Calc's normal sort gives. Is there any way to do this? I could do it in Perl or C, but I'd much rather do it in Calc and avoid all the potential import/export issues. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to co
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 08:32, JOE Conner wrote: ONE CAVIAT: The password must have a minimum of at least five characters. More is fine, less will fail. Go figure! The idea is that one will use a strong password. At 5 characters, there is a very slim chance that the password is strong enough to not be broken, by casual means and methods. My calculator bombed out, in trying to determine the number of possible passwords. :( 2.93873588 × 10(sup)89 is too low by several orders of magnitude. xan jonathon -- OOo can not correct for incompetence in creating documents from MSO. Furthermore,OOo can not compensate for the defective and flawed security measures used by Microsoft. As such, before using this product for exams that require faulty and defective software, ensure that you will not be unjustly penalized for the incompetence of the organization that requires the use of software that is known to be flawed, defective, bug-ridden, and fails to meet ISO file format standards.
Re: [users] How can I use Excel spreadsheets with an xls extension, modify them and save them with a password. ?
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:37, Marc BOOSZ wrote: I wish is to use xls files from Exel, modify them and save them in the same native xls format with the password. For that, you'll need one of the command line tools that adds/removes passwords from xls files. xan jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to co
JOE Conner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Saturday September 13 2008, Marc BOOSZ wrote to All: MB With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to MB save = spreadsheets with a password; I believe you are wrong. When you choose the file save as command, there is a box in the lower left corner labelled save with password. If you tick that box, you'll get the password dialogue when you continue. Or is this not what you mean? Regards, Hans. ONE CAVIAT: The password must have a minimum of at least five characters. More is fine, less will fail. Go figure! Minimum password lengths are common, to prevent easy cracking. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Please delete my data
Twayne wrote: Dear Sirs, please delete my Name Marisa Thomsen and my entries from your archive. I don't want to be listed at Google, etc. with my name. Thank you for your understanding. Looking forward getting your feedback. Thank you very much in advance Marisa Thomsen Hostage mit Bruce Willis kostenlos anschauen! Exklusiv für alle WEB.DE Nutzer. *http://www.blockbuster.web.de* [http://www.blockbuster.web.de] Marisa, You will have to change your information al any/all of the places you have used it. On the mail lists, unsub and then subscribe again to change the name you use to a nick. You can not remove your name from Google by this or any other method that I am aware of. Google collects data and wherever you have posted with your name will already be in their records and will remain there. In general you should not use any personal information on any newsgroup, especially public newsgroups, and most mailing lists where it will be published. I'm not sure what else to tell you. HTH One example of the futility of this subject. Once it's out there it is gone. http://www.nabble.com/Please-delete-my-data-td19431396.html -- James E. Morrow Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Convert typed all caps to small caps
At 14:31 13/09/2008 -0400, David Trimboli wrote: I want to create a character style that changes all-capital abbreviations to small capitals and apply it retroactively, after the abbreviations have already been typed in all capitals. Is there any way to do this? Example: Harriet, an FBI agent, turned on CNN to get the dirt on the CIA before going to bed at 9:30 PM. I want to be able to take text like the example above, select FBI, CNN, CIA, and PM, apply a character style, and see them as small capitals. Is this possible? Without retyping or replacing the abbreviations? I think you can do this fairly easily as long as you *don't* have the initialisms in capitals to start with. If you do, it may be convenient to convert them using Find Replace. Replace PM with pm and so on. To help find the items again later, you may want to apply an easily noticeable format - perhaps a font colour. To do this, in the Find Replace dialogue, first press the More Options button. With the cursor in the Replace with box, go to Format... | Font Effects and set a suitable font colour. Now create a character style. Here's an easy way: o Go to Format | Styles and Formatting (or use the Style and Formatting button in the Formatting toolbar, or press F11). o Press the Character Styles button. o Put the cursor into text with Default character formatting. o Select the New Style from Selection button and the New Style from Selection option. o Give your style a name. o Right-click your new style in the list and select Modify... . o On the Font Effects tab, under Effects, select Small capitals. o With the new style name selected in the list, press the Fill Format Mode button. The cursor changes to a paint can. o Go through your text, clicking once with the paint can on each initialism. o Press the Fill Format Mode button again (or just press Esc) to cancel this mode. If you choose to set a font colour in the replace process, you could set it back explicitly using your character style. To achieve this, go to the Font Effects tab in the style and set Font color to Black (or whatever) instead of Automatic. Alternatively, it may be easier just to select all the text afterwards and set the font colour to Automatic instead. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
On 13/09/2008 19:47, jonathon wrote: snip One of the major issues with the password scheme that OOo uses, is that if one forgets the password, it probably will be cheaper and faster to recreate the document from scratch, than pay to have the password recovered. (Basically, if OOo Pasword Cracker http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87718package_id=173080 doesn't recover the password within one month, the odds are that it will years to recover the password.) And why exactly is this a major issue? Or even a minor one? IMHO it would be more of an issue if a cracker could guess the password in a short time. The idea of passwords is to *prevent* access to data. Either don't use them or don't forget them. Or use a secure password manager. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
2008/9/13 Marc BOOSZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to save spreadsheets with a password; This is an important disadvantage of Open Office in comparison to Microsoft Excel. I hope that version 3.0 of Open Office will correct this problem and enable to save spreadsheets with a password. I have saved spreadsheets with password since OpenOffice.org 1.0.3. It has worked perfectly every time. On this list, maybe one or two years ago, there was a discussion about how safe the passwords are. Someone found some software that could crack OpenOffice.org- and MS Office passwords. Someone on this list tried it but after several days the software still was trying to figure the (simple) password out… J.R.
Re: [users] is there any way to do non-ascii sorting in calc?
At 18:53 13/09/2008 +, Nobody Noname wrote: For my test case, I'd like to sort rows by Column A using the following order: a,e,i,o,u,b,c,d,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,r,s,t,v,w,x,y,z Ultimately, I'll need to sort a list that contains IPA (phonetic) unicode characters in an order different from what Calc's normal sort gives. Is there any way to do this? I could do it in Perl or C, but I'd much rather do it in Calc and avoid all the potential import/export issues. You can do something along this line: o Type your characters (or strings) in your sort order into a column of a spreadsheet. o Select the list. o Go to Tools | Options... | OpenOffice.org Calc | Sort Lists and press Copy and OK. o To sort material, go to Data | Sort ... . o On the Options tab, tick Custom sort order and select your created order. This works quite well for individual characters or strings, but I'm not sure to what extent it works in the more general sense of sorting strings according to a character order. It seems not to. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
On 09/13/2008 03:57 AM, Marc BOOSZ wrote: Hello, With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to save spreadsheets with a password; This is an important disadvantage of Open Office in comparison to Microsoft Excel. I hope that version 3.0 of Open Office will correct this problem and enable to save spreadsheets with a password. The Microsoft algorithm to encrypt/decrypt passwords in their files are proprietary; hence OOo cannot possibly (well legally) save an xls file with a password or include an the same algorithm to open a password saved MS Office document. That said, it does little good to even try as the encryption/decryption in MS Office is pretty weak + there are so many programs available to crack Office passwords that it's hardly worth the effort. You'd have better protection by simply putting the xls in a zip file and password protecting the zip. Better yet, us standard OOo file format use the password protection provided with that. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Problems with OpenOffice.org RC1 install
On 09/12/2008 06:14 PM, David Bird wrote: Facts: I have windows xp (sp3) and when I install OO.o RC1 I get into an eternal loop that says: error: cannot find file specified. The only way to exit this is to shut down and restart windows. Should I wait for RC2? Fact: you haven't provided sufficient information for anyone to help you :-) At what part of the install does OOo go into the loop? Please try to describe in as much detail as possible. Also please post the output of the md5sum of the downloaded file. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
Brian Barker wrote: At 14:31 13/09/2008 -0400, David Trimboli wrote: I want to create a character style that changes all-capital abbreviations to small capitals and apply it retroactively, after the abbreviations have already been typed in all capitals. Is there any way to do this? Example: Harriet, an FBI agent, turned on CNN to get the dirt on the CIA before going to bed at 9:30 PM. I want to be able to take text like the example above, select FBI, CNN, CIA, and PM, apply a character style, and see them as small capitals. Is this possible? Without retyping or replacing the abbreviations? I think you can do this fairly easily as long as you *don't* have the initialisms in capitals to start with. If you do, it may be convenient to convert them using Find Replace. Replace PM with pm and so on. So, in short, no, it's not possible. :) o With the new style name selected in the list, press the Fill Format Mode button. The cursor changes to a paint can. o Go through your text, clicking once with the paint can on each initialism. o Press the Fill Format Mode button again (or just press Esc) to cancel this mode. Hmm! I didn't know about this mode. Thanks for the tip. -- David Stardate 8703.5 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
NoOp wrote: On 09/13/2008 03:57 AM, Marc BOOSZ wrote: Hello, With the 2.4.1 version of Open Office, it is not possible to save spreadsheets with a password; This is an important disadvantage of Open Office in comparison to Microsoft Excel. I hope that version 3.0 of Open Office will correct this problem and enable to save spreadsheets with a password. The Microsoft algorithm to encrypt/decrypt passwords in their files are proprietary; hence OOo cannot possibly (well legally) save an xls file with a password or include an the same algorithm to open a password saved MS Office document. That said, it does little good to even try as the encryption/decryption in MS Office is pretty weak + there are so many programs available to crack Office passwords that it's hardly worth the effort. You'd have better protection by simply putting the xls in a zip file and password protecting the zip. Better yet, us standard OOo file format use the password protection provided with that. Since OO files are zipped, does it use the zip encryption or other? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Having trouble indenting text in documents.
Joe Smith wrote: Jim Allan wrote: Joe Smith wrote: Also, it would be nice if Writer supported this as an actual list (a dictionary list in HTML). Writer provides no good way to sort the list, or even to manually re-order it. Highlight what you want to include in your list and then use Tools → Sort Each line(paragraph) in your text will be sorted in relation to the other lines(paragraphs). Or perhaps I am not understanding what you want. The goal is to sort a dictionary list by the head words, keeping each head word and its definition paragraph(s) together. If the list is unstructured paragraphs, you can't use the built-in sort: it won't move the head word and the definition paragraph together as a unit. Moving them manually using cut+paste is a big chore. I figured it would be easier if they were in a two-level list. At least then you could use the move with subpoints function on the bullets numbering toolbar to move whole entries with one mouse click. However, if you put the dictionary items in a list, once you change the numbering type to none, Writer no longer offers the list functions. You have to set a numbering type, move the items, then re-configure the list to not display the numbering. Why should numbering type none disable the list functions? It might be a nice enhancement if Writer could sort a list using the top-level items as the key. Just an observation, not a big deal. I've come across one or two cases where I wanted to sort a structured list, but it's hardly a common problem. I've done this kind of list fairly often, and the simplest way I've found is to create a table, with the first column holding the word and the second the description. The list can then be sorted, terms added or deleted, and so forth, very easily. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
David Trimboli wrote: Brian Barker wrote: At 14:31 13/09/2008 -0400, David Trimboli wrote: I want to create a character style that changes all-capital abbreviations to small capitals and apply it retroactively, after the abbreviations have already been typed in all capitals. Is there any way to do this? Example: Harriet, an FBI agent, turned on CNN to get the dirt on the CIA before going to bed at 9:30 PM. I want to be able to take text like the example above, select FBI, CNN, CIA, and PM, apply a character style, and see them as small capitals. Is this possible? Without retyping or replacing the abbreviations? I think you can do this fairly easily as long as you *don't* have the initialisms in capitals to start with. If you do, it may be convenient to convert them using Find Replace. Replace PM with pm and so on. So, in short, no, it's not possible. :) o With the new style name selected in the list, press the Fill Format Mode button. The cursor changes to a paint can. o Go through your text, clicking once with the paint can on each initialism. o Press the Fill Format Mode button again (or just press Esc) to cancel this mode. Hmm! I didn't know about this mode. Thanks for the tip. If you just want the caps to be smaller in those cases, couldn't you just set up your special character style to use a smaller point size than your normal text? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
Barbara Duprey wrote: David Trimboli wrote: Brian Barker wrote: At 14:31 13/09/2008 -0400, David Trimboli wrote: I want to create a character style that changes all-capital abbreviations to small capitals and apply it retroactively, after the abbreviations have already been typed in all capitals. Is there any way to do this? Example: Harriet, an FBI agent, turned on CNN to get the dirt on the CIA before going to bed at 9:30 PM. I want to be able to take text like the example above, select FBI, CNN, CIA, and PM, apply a character style, and see them as small capitals. Is this possible? Without retyping or replacing the abbreviations? I think you can do this fairly easily as long as you *don't* have the initialisms in capitals to start with. If you do, it may be convenient to convert them using Find Replace. Replace PM with pm and so on. So, in short, no, it's not possible. :) o With the new style name selected in the list, press the Fill Format Mode button. The cursor changes to a paint can. o Go through your text, clicking once with the paint can on each initialism. o Press the Fill Format Mode button again (or just press Esc) to cancel this mode. Hmm! I didn't know about this mode. Thanks for the tip. If you just want the caps to be smaller in those cases, couldn't you just set up your special character style to use a smaller point size than your normal text? Yeccch! That's not small caps! Every dead typographer is rolling over in his or her grave right about now. :) -- David Stardate 8703.7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
David Trimboli wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: If you just want the caps to be smaller in those cases, couldn't you just set up your special character style to use a smaller point size than your normal text? Yeccch! That's not small caps! Every dead typographer is rolling over in his or her grave right about now. :) Maybe you need to educate us non-typographers by what you mean by small caps then ... or explain what you're trying to achieve, what appearance you want, etc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
At 20:58 13/09/2008 -0400, David Trimboli wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: If you just want the caps to be smaller in those cases, couldn't you just set up your special character style to use a smaller point size than your normal text? Yeccch! That's not small caps! Every dead typographer is rolling over in his or her grave right about now. :) Whilst it is true that - in proper typography - small caps are not simply smaller versions of capital letters, are you sure that you are right to object here? Capitals and lower case letters appear separately within computer character sets, but small caps do not. The only way that you can get proper small caps would be if you had a small caps variety of your font - along with the regular, bold, italic, and bold italic that are normally available. But Writer produces what it calls Small capitals (note: not the proper small caps) without the aid of such a font: it must use capitals from an existing font to do this. Surely that means that what you get when you ask Writer for Small capitals (which appeared to interest you) must be identical to what you get if you simply reduce the size of capitals (which apparently horrified you)? Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
Brian Barker wrote: At 20:58 13/09/2008 -0400, David Trimboli wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: If you just want the caps to be smaller in those cases, couldn't you just set up your special character style to use a smaller point size than your normal text? Yeccch! That's not small caps! Every dead typographer is rolling over in his or her grave right about now. :) Whilst it is true that - in proper typography - small caps are not simply smaller versions of capital letters, are you sure that you are right to object here? Capitals and lower case letters appear separately within computer character sets, but small caps do not. The only way that you can get proper small caps would be if you had a small caps variety of your font - along with the regular, bold, italic, and bold italic that are normally available. But Writer produces what it calls Small capitals (note: not the proper small caps) without the aid of such a font: it must use capitals from an existing font to do this. Surely that means that what you get when you ask Writer for Small capitals (which appeared to interest you) must be identical to what you get if you simply reduce the size of capitals (which apparently horrified you)? Good point. You're right about that. -- David Stardate 8703.8 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: OO 3 rc1 install/setup freeze
On 09/11/2008 09:58 AM, liquid64 wrote: NoOp-4 wrote: Very interesting! Do you still have the renamed x-user-x folder? If so I'd be very interested in doing a diff comparison against that and your good user folder. I won't be able to upload it today, since the machine is on the other side of town for me. However, as time permits, I will upload it. (Hope to be back by there tomorrow sometime). Got it I can replicate with the 'bad' user folder - thanks! See my direct not re submitting the file as an attachment to a bug report or to the developers directly. Note: it appears that multiple files/subdirectories did not get fully uncompressed/unpacked from the install .cab files. Meaning that somewhere in the process the install burped and didn't fully do it's job. Did you by chance do an md5sum on the _3.0.0rc1_20080904_Win32Intel_install_en-US.exe file? If so, can you please check against http://download.openoffice.org/680/md5sums.html From what I can see it probably isn't a QuickStarter or Java problem, but a problem from the basic install msi or a machine issue when running the install .exe. Would you happen to have the files that are placed in the install desktop folder still? If so, I'd be interested in those as well (just from the bad machine). Thanks again! Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:14:36 -0400 Richard Detwiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Maybe you need to educate us non-typographers by what you mean by small caps then ... or explain what you're trying to achieve, what appearance you want, etc. Those who prefer good typography know that in the days of real typesetting with hot lead the publisher had a separate drawer with the small cap characters. These were crafted to have the same stroke width as the lowercase letters so they would appear natural in a line of type. In today's world we have a multitude of fonts. Each one is fine in its own right. But when OOo reduces the capital letters to the x-height of the lowercase letters the stroke will be too thin. It looks bad. Furthermore, OOo reduces the regular cap by a percentage, and this percentage may not be correct for all fonts. The solution is to use a professional font that contains separate small cap characters, characters which have been individually drawn to have the correct stroke width as the lowercase characters. Very few such fonts exist, although most of the Pro fonts from Adobe have them, as well as the better fonts from other foundries. There are also open source fonts that have been lovingly crafted to have true small cap characters. Wandering further afield - With the advent of OpenType font technology it became possible to include true small cap characters in the same font as the regular characters (as alternative glyphs), and for software to offer the user the ability to select the alternate glyphs as a style option. So far the only software that does this is Adobe InDesign, although the developers of Scribus have it on their roadmap. In InDesign when you apply small caps it automatically uses the true small caps alternate glyphs if they are available in the font, instead of reducing the size of the regular cap. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Convert typed all caps to small caps
John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:14:36 -0400 Richard Detwiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Maybe you need to educate us non-typographers by what you mean by small caps then ... or explain what you're trying to achieve, what appearance you want, etc. Those who prefer good typography know that in the days of real typesetting with hot lead the publisher had a separate drawer with the small cap characters. These were crafted to have the same stroke width as the lowercase letters so they would appear natural in a line of type. Anyone who knows what they're talking about, wouldn't confuse hot lead or hot type, such as Linotype or Monotype, with hand set type where you'd have drawers full of the various letters. BTW, I have hand set type and seen Linotype in use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linotype_machine -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:10:48 +0100 Came this utterance fomulated by Harold Fuchs to my mailbox: On 13/09/2008 19:47, jonathon wrote: snip One of the major issues with the password scheme that OOo uses, is that if one forgets the password, it probably will be cheaper and faster to recreate the document from scratch, than pay to have the password recovered. (Basically, if OOo Pasword Cracker http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87718package_id=173080 doesn't recover the password within one month, the odds are that it will years to recover the password.) And why exactly is this a major issue? Or even a minor one? IMHO it would be more of an issue if a cracker could guess the password in a short time. The idea of passwords is to *prevent* access to data. Either don't use them or don't forget them. Or use a secure password manager. I agree with Harold here. The password is meant to be safe, ideally totally uncrackable. But we do not live in a perfect world alas. I also therefore agree with Jonathon that it will usually be cheaper to rewrite the document from scratch. Or try one of these: http://www.google.com/search?q=top+ten+passwords+used Some more alternatives before the fact: On your local password protected computer login have two copies. One for your own use without password, one to provide to others where a password is required. For the above - ensure it is a windows computer in case you forget your login password as well. That password won't take a month to bypass. For that matter a linux login password wont take a month to bypass either. One last alternative, this depends on why the file was password protected in the first instance. OP could export the original file as a PDF instead. This doesn't protect the data in that it is readable by anyone but it cannot be readily modified by just anyone. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Impossible to save spreadsheets with a password. Obstacle to confidentiality.
Michael Adams wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:10:48 +0100 Came this utterance fomulated by Harold Fuchs to my mailbox: SNIP One last alternative, this depends on why the file was password protected in the first instance. OP could export the original file as a PDF instead. This doesn't protect the data in that it is readable by anyone but it cannot be readily modified by just anyone FWIW, OOo export to PDF can be password protected too. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[angkoriansociety] filtre ceramique au Cambodge
Prie cliquer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPvHtjRvWFM Je ne sais pas combien côute ce filtre ? Commercial ou humanitaire ? Il existe un autre procédé plus simple et ne coûte rien , c'est de remplir l'eau dans des bouteilles en plastiques et les laisser exposer au soleil . Pheatarakpheap ck --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: java vs c, escape sequences
rick271828 wrote: Can anybody please explain why the c code: printf(%c[H%c[J,27,27); clears my cygwin console as expected, but the Java code: System.out.print(\033[2J\033[H); displays a back arrow instead on interpreting the escape character? It's because you are not running the program with stdout attached to a terminal or terminal emulator. Probably, you are running in a console window. Cygwin can emulate a terminal in a console window for programs that do all I/O through it, but for third-party applications, like Sun java, it cannot. Run the application in rxvt and it works as expected. -- Barry -- http://barrkel.blogspot.com/ -- Unsubscribe info: I can run the date command from the command line. Its path is /bin/ date. system_fonts.tiff I tried twice subscribing to this list, but the list daemon never sent confirmation (yes, I checked my junk mail box too). Please reply to me directly. Thanks. Your help is greatly appreciated. Roger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
