OT: Want to sitch from Emacs-based mailprogram to one supporting vim
Hi, sorry of being (may be) off topic. The only reason why Emacs is still installed is, that I am reading and editing mails with the Mail in an Emacs World (mew) program, which is really nice. Now I am looking for one as a replacement. One must-have of the new one is to store the mails in a the same format as mew does, so I can still read my old mails. The other one: It must support vim as close as possible :O) Mew reads from /var/spool/mail/mccramer and put each mail as a single file and not processed in any other ways in a certain folder below $HOME/Mail/. The folder is determined on the base of regular expressions. The mails themselves are fetched from the server by fetchmail/exim. What I am searching for is the terminus technicus of this kind of mail storage format...if there is one. This name would enable me to search for another mail program supporting exactly the same format. I heard a lot of mutt but I am uncertain about its quality and feature and testing always mean to loose a certain amount of mail in a possible different format. It would also be nice, if the mail program would support encryption via gpg. Thank you very much for any helpful hint and/or help regarding this problem ! Keep hacking! mcc
Vertical regexp
Hi, Is there any way to find two specific items of an ascii table of the same column but of two adjacent rows ? I am looking for some vimish solution - there is of course a way to specify an highly complex and longish regexp which is very table specific... Is there a way to say item below this item or item(x,y) and item( x,y+1)? Thanks for any help in advance! Have a nice weekend! mcc
Re: Vertical regexp
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vertical regexp Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:10:50 +0100 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vertical regexp Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:46:19 +0100 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, Is there any way to find two specific items of an ascii table of the same column but of two adjacent rows ? I am looking for some vimish solution - there is of course a way to specify an highly complex and longish regexp which is very table specific... Is there a way to say item below this item or item(x,y) and item( x,y+1)? Thanks for any help in advance! Have a nice weekend! mcc It may depend on the structure of your file: if the item below this item is vertically aligned it will be relatively easy; if they aren't aligned, as in lines of comma- or tab-separated items of widely varying length, it is probably possible, but not in the same way; and it may require a function rather than a regexp. Best regards, Tony. -- This is your fortune. Hi Tony, sorry...I forgot to mention: It is a *very* simple aligned ASCII-table, space is used as seperator. It looks like this one 128 chars of hex-crc2 spacesitem to compare2 spacesfull path/file where file possibly contains weird characters (at least from the point of view of an unixxer) like spaces, braces, commata and so on -- everything which makes regexp more complicate and a headache in the evening ;) Keep hacking! mcc OK, well, check :help pattern-overview, I'm sure you will find what you need. In addition, if you need to concatenate expressions to construct your pattern, you may want to check :help :normal and :help :let-@. Best regards, Tony. -- For some reason, this fortune reminds everyone of Marvin Zelkowitz. Hi Tony! THANKS A LOT! :O) Its always a problem for a non-native English speaker like me to first translate a what I want in the name for it and then from (in my case) a the name for it (german) in a name for it (english) and vim has always some special terminus technicus for what I want. Previously I would never had thought, that let-@ has something to do with my problem... ;) kind regards, mcc
Re: Vertical regexp
From: Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Vertical regexp
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:11:36 -0600
Is there any way to find two specific items of an ascii table of the
same column but of two adjacent rows ?
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do on the data you
described in your 2nd posting, so I'm divining intent as well as
a solution. Perhaps with your intent as well, a better solution
can be found.
In the past, I've done things like
/^\%(.\{25}\)\(.\).*\n\%(.\{25}\)\1
to find places where character 26 on one line is the same as
character 26 on the next line. Or, I've used
/^\(\w\+\).*\n\1
to find lines that begin with the same word. If you're looking
for different characters (A and Z) at a particular offset
(26), you can use
/^\%(.\{25}\)A.*\n\%(.\{25}\)Z
It does require that you know the offset though.
If your lines are fixed length (which it sounds like they might
not be, as they have file-names which can be arbitrary lengths),
you might be able to do something like
/^.\{-}A\_.\{129}Z
assuming there are 128 characters in each of your lines (the
129th is the \n character). If you right-padded your file so
that it had a consistent length in each line, this solution might
work for you.
Just a few ideas that have worked for me in the past, doing
something somewhat like I understand you to be describing :)
HTH,
-tim
Hi Tim,
oh yeah! :) Thank you fo rthe regexps!
Short explanation, what I intent to do:
I have two directory trees. One is on my hd, the other one on a
DVD-RAM, both containing lots of files. The directory structure
is very similiar.
To proof, that the DVD-RAM has no file, which does not exist on the
hd I generate a checksum, (whirlpooldeep) of each file on the DVD-RAM
and on the hd. To make the output useable as input for uniq I
decided to insert either dvdram or hd after the checksum. Then I
put both files into one and sort the whole thing - key are the
characters of the checksum only.
Then (and this the part of vim): If I find to rows which have the
word DVD-RAM in their second column I found one file on the
DVD-RAM, which is not on the hd.
As you already mentoined: The lengths of the filenames may be very
different -- the reason why I was searching for a below this
item-trick.
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: File name completion for files residing in multiple directories
From: Max Dyckhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: File name completion for files residing in multiple directories Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:58:35 -0800 I installed lookupfile and got back this error message while starting vim (console): Error detected while processing /home/mccramer/.vim/plugin/lookupfile.vim: line 105: E227: mapping already exists for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press ENTER or type command to continue ??? You want Hari's LookupFile plugin, which you can find on vim.org. It's awesome, and has speeded up my development massively. It does exactly what you want, in almost exactly the way you suggest. Max -Original Message- From: Erik Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:53 AM To: vim@vim.org Subject: File name completion for files residing in multiple directories I've been searching for a nice way to quickly open files that may reside in any of number of directories, similar to the quick open feature you find in some other editors. One solution is to mess around with the ** and * wildcards, but this gets terribly slow for large projects. Another solution is to set the 'path' variable, but vim does not perform completion on files opened that way. A third solution is to generate file name tags and use :tag to jump to files, but in that case you will perform completion on just not file names, but other tags as well. Finally, you can open all files you need to switch between and use :b, but for obvious reasons this isn't very practical. What I think would be an nice solution is if there was some way to make vim perform file name completion using 'file' tags from the tag file. That way you could still use tags for other things, and most often the files you generate tags for are exactly the files you want to be able to open and switch between quickly. Can anyone think of a better solution? Would it be possible to integrate this feature into vim in a nice way? /Erik Berman
additional spaces with C_V
Hi, Suppose I have this text loaded into vim (:set list) 09wqeuwueo$ aaai$ kjdhfks$ jhd$ kdj$ asldo0$ skaj$ Now I put my cursor in the first line onto the last charcter, press a space esc to insert some space and then start visual mode with C-V and move the cursor directly down to the last line, press I space esc and got a space inserted into the first line. Nothing else is changed Since the marked bar in visual mode has had no problems to reach the last line without stumbling accross the missing spaces, I would exspect to get something like this 09wqeuwueo $ aaai $ kjdhfks$ jhd$ kdj$ asldo0 $ skaj $ . On the other hand, vim would exspect, that her/his user would understand, what s/he is doing ;) Is there a way to accomplish this? May be be tweaking some options? I did a set virualedit=block in my .vimrc, but this doesn't help. Thank you very much for any i help esc in advance ! : Keep editing! mcc
Fresh builds for Windows
Hi, where can I get recent builds (vim-7.0.178) for Windows ? Thanks a lot for any help in advance ! Keep editing! mcc
Regexp pattern confusion...
Hi,
in a previous mail I asked for a way to replace $variable with
${variable} in shell scripts.
One suggested solution was to apply the following to the script
:%s/\$\zs\(\w\+\)/{\1}/gc
which works nicely.
Now I wanted to extend the above expression to also change
$-expressions in my shell scripts like
$#arrayvar
$?
$*
$@
...and so on. So I changed (just for a test first) the above
expression with
:%s/\$\zs\([\w]\+\)/{\1}/gc
(added [] around \w) which -- as far as I know (and it seems, that
this isn't enough in this case... ;) -- does not change anything,
since it simply says: one or more of the itenms in the []s -- and the
only item is a word-character.
But suddenly nothing was matched anymore
My final approach was this one:
:%s/\$\zs\([\w\#\$\*\?]\+\)/{\1}/gc
but
What did I wrong here ?
Thank you very much for any help in advance !
Have a nice weekend!
mcc
em-brace-ing shell variables
Hi,
in the beginning I often wrote shell scripts, which uses
$variable
instead of the better
${variable}
. So I would like to write a short vim script which inserts the {}
around the name of the variable. It should work, when the cursor is
somewhere over the name of the variable.
The first step is done: The script can select the word with
viw
...
But what then ?
Thank you very much for any help in advance!
Happy editing and have a nice weekend!
mcc
Do something for all ft, except....
Hi As far as I understood augroups I can do specific actions for a specific filetype. I now came accross the situation to define a keymapping for all filetypes except for one. Is there a more elegant (and suitable for a lot more than one single keybinding) way to do this as to define the keymapping and delete it afterwards in a augroup for the filetype where it is not wanted ? (By the way: Is there any command for restore the old keymapping and - if not - how can I backup a keymapping before changing it with *map-commands?) Thank you very much for any help in advance! Have a nice weekend! mcc
Calendar ?
Hi, where can I find instructions on how to use Calendar.vim and its keybindings ? I visited vim.org's script pages about Calendar.vim but didn't found, what I was searching for. Google also gave me nothing... But may be all this is my fault ?! Regards, mcc
Re: Calendar ?
From: Tom Purl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Calendar ? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:15:04 -0600 (CST) I found the plugin in $HOME/.vim/plugin/. What version do you use? The header of my calendar.vim consists mainly of a long history, instructions on how to set some calendar specific variables in .vimrc and some other stuff for .vimrc. no usage instructions, no keybindings. Mine is the version of the 17.Jan 2006 and is named 1.4. mcc Check out the source, which should be in one of your plugin directories. For me, it's in $HOME/vimfiles/plugin/calendar.vim on my Win XP computer. The header of the file has a ton of commments, including usage statements nad Additional notes. HTH! Tom Purl Hi, where can I find instructions on how to use Calendar.vim and its keybindings ? I visited vim.org's script pages about Calendar.vim but didn't found, what I was searching for. Google also gave me nothing... But may be all this is my fault ?! Regards, mcc
Searching/replacing literally
Hi, I want to search a longer string totally literally...regexp totally switched of, no exceptions. Or in other words: I want to search like sttcmp() of glibc would do. Is this possible with vim? (ok, this is a more rethorical question...everything is possible with vim. The question is more like: How and how complicate is is? ;O) Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Commenting out TeX-text line by line in V-mode
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Commenting out TeX-text line by line in V-mode Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:20:13 +0100 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, a question more driven by curiosity than by the need to change anything. Suppose you have the following TeX-text: bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats and because this text is so fullfilled with wisdom and knowledge, that no one else than you will be able to handle its contents carefully ;) you decide to comment it out to not to harm the public. As a vim newbie I would do that using block oriented visual mode on the first line and I-nserting a '%' (TeX's comment sign), which results in: % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla % foo bar gnu gnats % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats % % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla % foo bar gnu gnats % % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats So far so nice...it works. But would be there a way to acchieve the following commenting: % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla % foo bar gnu gnats % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats bla blabla % foo bar gnu gnats % bla blabla foo bar gnu gnats (blank lines not commented out) by a similiar simple command like CTRL-v SHIFT-i textESC ? As said: This Q is mostly curiosity - based...I even dont know, whether haveing such a feature would be really useful or not. But as always: Experimenting is fun! :O) Keep editing! mcc 1. Add all percent signs like you did above, even before blank lines. 2. Replace empty comments by blank (i.e. empty) lines as follows: :%s/^%\s*$// Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, yes...I know that (which is an exception... ;) I thought there would be one command to achieve the same effect instead of doing it the wrong way first and the correct it by an additional command... Keep editing! mcc
Checking an option
Hi, in a script I want to to something like: if option is set (do something) endif From the help I got under the toppic expr-option option *expr-option* *E112* *E113* -- option option value, local value if possible g:option global option value l:option local option value Examples: echo tabstop is . tabstop if insertmode Any option name can be used here. See |options|. When using the local value and there is no buffer-local or window-local value, the global value is used anyway. So I wrote (before there was a set nostartofline) if nostartofline (do something) endif but it fails with: Error detected while processing /home/mccramer/.vimrc: line 561: E113: Unknown option: nostartofline E15: Invalid expression: nostartofline which I dont understand, since some line before set nostartofline was used and there nostartofline was known... What can I do to solve the problem ? Thank you very much in advance for any help ! Keep editing! mcc
Re: Checking an option
From: Peter Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Checking an option
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:00:06 +1100 (EST)
Hi Peter,
thank you for your super fast reply! :)
Some things are quite too simple for me... ;O) --- VERY BIG smiley!
Keep editing!
mcc
Hello,
The 'no{option}' options aren't really options, that's just a way of turning
them off. You can use:
if ! startofline
(do something)
endif
regards,
Peter
--- Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
in a script I want to to something like:
if option is set
(do something)
endif
From the help I got under the toppic expr-option
option *expr-option* *E112*
*E113*
--
option option value, local value if possible
g:option global option value
l:option local option value
Examples:
echo tabstop is . tabstop
if insertmode
Any option name can be used here. See |options|. When using the local
value
and there is no buffer-local or window-local value, the global value is
used
anyway.
So I wrote (before there was a set nostartofline)
if nostartofline
(do something)
endif
but it fails with:
Error detected while processing /home/mccramer/.vimrc:
line 561:
E113: Unknown option: nostartofline
E15: Invalid expression: nostartofline
which I dont understand, since some line before set nostartofline
was used and there nostartofline was known...
What can I do to solve the problem ?
Thank you very much in advance for any help !
Keep editing!
mcc
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Scrolling down somehow
Hi, I have a HUGE table of data of shortwave broadcasters (freqs,times,schedules...). The different table entries are only seperated by byte counts horizontally and by newlines vertically. My idea was to make things a little clearer by adding | at the right places (byte counts). But there is one thing driving me crazy: I position (for example) the cursor at position 20 horizontally, press CTRL-V for visual block mode and press G to jump to the end of the file. But now th ecursor is somewhere else most of the time something below 20 - say 10, so I can reposition the cursor again. All lines of the table are longer than 200 characters. How can I go straight to the last line of the text without leaving my original horizontal position of the cursor? Thanks a lot for any help in advance! Have a nice weekend! mcc
Two other problems while diting a big table
Hi, Currently I want to reformat a huge table of data of shortwave broadcasters. This table is build from lines of 318 characters each (***none is shorter or longer***). The entries are speperated by char/byte offsets only (defined in another file). The rows are seperated by newlines. Wrapping is off. I am currently on the way to insert | s at the boundaries between the entries to make the table a little more readable. One things I want to change: When positioning the cursor at a position which mormally would be wrapped (if wrap would be be on), the table/cursor remains currectly positioned at that column when using up/down to scroll, but as soon as I will use PageDown/PageUp the cursor jumps to ^ and I can start right from the beginning. Is there a way to pin the cursor at its horizontal place even when using PageUp/PageDown (same goes for Home and End) ? Activating ve here does not work. Keep editing! mcc
Re: Scrolling down somehow
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scrolling down somehow Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:54:53 +0200 On 11/11/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a HUGE table of data of shortwave broadcasters (freqs,times,schedules...). The different table entries are only seperated by byte counts horizontally and by newlines vertically. My idea was to make things a little clearer by adding | at the right places (byte counts). But there is one thing driving me crazy: I position (for example) the cursor at position 20 horizontally, press CTRL-V for visual block mode and press G to jump to the end of the file. But now th ecursor is somewhere else most of the time something below 20 - say 10, so I can reposition the cursor again. All lines of the table are longer than 200 characters. How can I go straight to the last line of the text without leaving my original horizontal position of the cursor? Try virtualedit mode (:set ve=all) Is last line of the file long enough ? Yakov Hi Yakov! :) Thank you for your reply ! But unfirtunately it does not work... All lines have the same length. See my other mail of a similar problem also... Keep editing! mcc
Re: ftp'n'patch'n'compile'n'install-script ???
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ftp'n'patch'n'compile'n'install-script ???
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:17:05 +0200
On 11/10/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ftp'n'patch'n'compile'n'install-script ???
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:53:44 +0200
On 11/10/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/10/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
is there a script around, which downloads the newest patches for vim,
unpack the source (located on my pc), patch the source, build a new
archive for the next time including handling the downloaded patches,
compiles the source and installs the results ?
Or a part of that ?
Thanks a lot for any help in advance!
Keep editing ! :)
mcc
Try
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1473
vim7-install.sh : {download + build + install} latest vim7 from svn
sources in 1 command
Regarding thr apply patches part, I 'm working on adding the pathing
functionality. It's not in yet.
Actually, re-reading your mail, I thik that you meant latest Bram's
patches,
not the external patches. Then I need to correct my previous answer:
This script, vim7-install.sh, applies all Bram's patches, up to the
last an the latest, automatically. This script uses better download
method than ftp. Namely, it
uses svn (it's the default method) or cvs (with option -svc).
When I said I 'm working on adding the 'patching' functionality. It's
not in yet',
I meant adding of external patches. But the Bram's patches are included
automatically by the vim7-install.sh, this is non-optional.
Yakov
Hi Yakov,
thanks a lot for your fast replies ! :))
You confuses me ! ;) ;) ;) ;) --- Very *BIG* smilies !
Means:
The only way to keep my vim uptodate, I know,is to download the
patches from ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.0/. and apply
those...
Oh no, this is not the only method.
When you download sources from svn or cvs, you get already patched
sources (all patches applied). This is what vim7-install.sh does for you,
plus build and install, all in one command.
This is why svn or cvs is much easier method of getting up-to-date
sources than ftp.
BTW early version of vim7-install.sh indeed used ftp and applied
patched one-by-one. This worked, but much slower than svn/cvs.
Now it seems, that -- before doing anything else -- I have to update
myself to the newest version of How to update vim. ;)
Is this correct (?) :
correct
|
V
[ ] The patches I used to use (see above) are called Bram's patches
correct
[ ] External patches are patches from any other developper other
than Bram.
correct
[ ] Getting patches from svn instead of the source described above
(ftp) are not seperated in files.
when you download sources from svn or cvs, you get already patched
sources (all patches applied)
This is why svn or cvs is much easier method of getting up-to-date
sources than ftp.
Yakov
TADA ! ENLIGHTMENT ! :O)
Thanks a lot Yakov! That helps me !
Keep editing!
mcc
How to load a file into a tab with 'vim file'
Hi, The subject says it all :) I want to load a file into a tab when starting vim from the console (termulator under X) with that file given on the commandline. Another thing (not included in the subject :O))) When starting vim as above but without an argument and loading a file into vim with :e tab sp filename then, I always get a tab called [No Name] and the second one is the tab of the file I want to edit. Is there a way to avoid the No Name buffer...it make the option showtabline a little superflous (only my two cents...), because there is alway an additional buffer (No Name) even when loading only one file into a tab... Thank you very much in advance for any :h ! :)) Keep :hacking! mcc
Re: r! not working in any case ?
From: koxinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: r! not working in any case ? Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:20:16 +0100 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, from :h r! I read that r! cmd can be used to transfer text given by a cmd via stdout into a buffer. I am using zsh 4.3.2 and have defined an alias of this form alias hcnf='./configure --help' . I wanted to insert the expanded alias into a zsh-script, which I wanted to edit with vim. Therefore I did in vim (with the buffer containing the zsh-script): :r! alias hcnf and got shell returned 1 Press ENTER to type command to continue . But alias hcnf and alias hcnf | less given on the commandline to proof, that stdout is used (instead of stderr) works fine. I cannot find the error I did Thank you very much in advance for any help ! :) Have a nice weekend! mcc The :r! command gives the same result than 'zsh -c command' (if you haven't changed shellcmdflag). It doesn't use an interactive shell so if you have define your alias in .zshrc it won't be recognized. In that case, ry putting it in .zshenv instead. koxinga Hi koxinga, flat-hand-against-my-front-head-effect! :) Yes, I should have known this...but... Thanks for your help! Keep hacking! mcc
r! not working in any case ?
Hi, from :h r! I read that r! cmd can be used to transfer text given by a cmd via stdout into a buffer. I am using zsh 4.3.2 and have defined an alias of this form alias hcnf='./configure --help' . I wanted to insert the expanded alias into a zsh-script, which I wanted to edit with vim. Therefore I did in vim (with the buffer containing the zsh-script): :r! alias hcnf and got shell returned 1 Press ENTER to type command to continue . But alias hcnf and alias hcnf | less given on the commandline to proof, that stdout is used (instead of stderr) works fine. I cannot find the error I did Thank you very much in advance for any help ! :) Have a nice weekend! mcc
Cut'n'Paste via *p and different users
Hi, I often edit some system related files as root while haveing cat-ed related (text-) material as user on another terminal. Trying to do the following under X and with mrxvt as termulator does not work: sux root password vim a system file (and as user at another termulator-window): cat a file selecting some text (back to the rooted vim: ) *p Doing both as user works nicely. Is it possible to Cut(user)'n'Paste(root) somehow? Is this a problem of security settiongs, of permission settings or of me myself ? ;) Ah! by the way: I am running Gentoo linux (updated on a daily basis) and I am using vim via the console (mrxvt termulator) under X. Thanks a lot for any help in advance! Keep editing! mcc
Re: Cut'n'Paste via *p and different users
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cut'n'Paste via *p and different users
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:28:23 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
Hi,
I often edit some system related files as root while haveing cat-ed related
(text-) material as user on another terminal.
Trying to do the following under X and with mrxvt as termulator does not
work:
sux root
password
vim a system file
(and as user at another termulator-window):
cat a file
selecting some text
(back to the rooted vim: )
*p
Doing both as user works nicely.
Is it possible to Cut(user)'n'Paste(root) somehow? Is this a problem
of security settiongs, of permission settings or of me myself ? ;)
Ah! by the way: I am running Gentoo linux (updated on a daily basis)
and I am using vim via the console (mrxvt termulator) under X.
Thanks a lot for any help in advance!
Keep editing!
mcc
If it doesn't work via the clipboard, try the older (pre-clipboard) method,
using an auxiliary file:
:[range]w {filename} write lines (from) (to)
:[line]r {filename} read after (line)
or before line 1 if (line) == 0
User - root should work with no problem. For root - user you might need
:!chmod {filename} a+r
in between, to give everyone read permission.
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony,
thank you for your reply, Tony !
I know that temporary-file-trick already (it is one of two things,
which I know before the other thing is how to start vim ;)))
I was wondering, whether the clipboard-problem is caused by some
(possible wrong) settings of my system or a normal behaviour of
X/mrxvt and whether there are tricks to make the clibboard working
inter-user-al :) ... it is so cool to use *p !!!
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: Cut'n'Paste via *p and different users
From: Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cut'n'Paste via *p and different users Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:19:29 -0500 I was wondering, whether the clipboard-problem is caused by some (possible wrong) settings of my system or a normal behaviour of X/mrxvt and whether there are tricks to make the clibboard working inter-user-al :) ... it is so cool to use *p !!! The following information is 100% untested, but my understanding is that the X server has to be authorized (via the MIT Magic Cookie) to accept connections from clients. Quoting directly from Loren M. Lang's post (found at http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/dc2159c366eb9064/e9001ce2abaec9d3?lnk=stq=run+x+application+as+different+userrnum=4#e9001ce2abaec9d3 sorry for the long link) snipped but never forgotten! :) My guess is that, as root, you want to try something like XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority gvim file1.txt The old-school way of doing this was to tinker with xhost to allow a whole host (rather than a particular user) to connect to the X server. The aim is to allow your alternate user (root in this case) permission to connect to the X server so that it can access the clipboard(s). My understanding is that the keys found in the .Xauthority file are the way to do this...that the alternate user has to have the key. Or I could be talking bunk. YMMV :) -tim Hi Tim ! thanks a lot for that ! Simply: IT WORKS! Keep hacking! mcc
Only curiosity: Optimizing a vimtip (modified)
Hi, I read of a vimtip, that one can move/copy lines of a text which match a cvertina pattern to line 0 (top) of the text. This is a nice trick to gather material for a kinda quick'n'dirty Table of contents it has one drwaback: The copied lines are in reversed order. Surely it is possible to write a fairly simple function with a counter, which keeps track to what line something is copied. But it would be interesting whether it is possible to achieve this with more condensed tricks without writing a function in beforehand. Thank you very much for any idea/hack/trick in advance! Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Terminating search in function
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Terminating search in function Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:01 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I wrote this snippet: fun! Ffunchdr() let date = strftime( %F ) put='/*-*/' put='/**' put=' * desc' put=' *' put=' *' put=' *' put=' * Created: ' . date . ' put=' *' put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' *' put=' * result 0 - Success, -1 - Failure' put=' *' put=' */' ?desc endfun command! Funchdr :call Ffunchdr() This should give nme the header comment for function definitions in C. My problem seems to be the ?desc command at the end. It /should/ move the cursor onto the desc keyword right in the beginning of the comment block. But it move the cursor to here: * desc ^ | cursor position My analysis (a too big word...) of the problem is: ? is still waiting for input. I tried ?descCR instead, but now ? tries to find descCR literally and did not find it. There seem to be an exception of the type the commands as you would do normally-rule here...but what is the rule to recognize that the current situation is an exception and what is the solution? Thank you very much in advance for any help ! :) Have a nice weekend! mcc What you're using is a searching range (as in :?desc from the keyboard). It positions the cursor on the first nonblank in the matched line. To use a search command (as in ?desc from the keyboard) in an Ex-command line, use :normal: normal ?desc see :help :range :help :normal Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, :O) thank you,Tony !:O) execute normal ?desc\CR will do the job and it seems, that a final execute normal cw on the found desc cannot be done correctly, since the command is not finished (which it should eb according to the :help normal text). Have a nice weekend! mcc
Re: Terminating search in function
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Terminating search in function Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:29:36 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Terminating search in function Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:00:14 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Terminating search in function Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:01 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I wrote this snippet: fun! Ffunchdr() let date = strftime( %F ) put='/*-*/' put='/**' put=' * desc' put=' *' put=' *' put=' *' put=' * Created: ' . date . ' put=' *' put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' *' put=' * result 0 - Success, -1 - Failure' put=' *' put=' */' ?desc endfun command! Funchdr :call Ffunchdr() This should give nme the header comment for function definitions in C. My problem seems to be the ?desc command at the end. It /should/ move the cursor onto the desc keyword right in the beginning of the comment block. But it move the cursor to here: * desc ^ | cursor position My analysis (a too big word...) of the problem is: ? is still waiting for input. I tried ?descCR instead, but now ? tries to find descCR literally and did not find it. There seem to be an exception of the type the commands as you would do normally-rule here...but what is the rule to recognize that the current situation is an exception and what is the solution? Thank you very much in advance for any help ! :) Have a nice weekend! mcc What you're using is a searching range (as in :?desc from the keyboard). It positions the cursor on the first nonblank in the matched line. To use a search command (as in ?desc from the keyboard) in an Ex-command line, use :normal: normal ?desc see :help :range :help :normal Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, :O) thank you,Tony !:O) execute normal ?desc\CR will do the job and it seems, that a final execute normal cw on the found desc cannot be done correctly, since the command is not finished (which it should eb according to the :help normal text). Have a nice weekend! mcc normal cw is not finished since the c (change) commands needs to be told _to_ what you want to change the replaced word. What you can do instead (IIUC) is normal diw (delete inner word) followed by startinsert!. Note that startinsert[!] only makes sense as the last statement of the script (because insert-mode will be delayed until then). Have a nice weekend too. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, ...the normal diw+startinsert!-trick works nice ! Thanks a lot -- such little helpers like the now finally working Function-header-function() are the _real_ stuff helping one to speed up the daily work -- and of course the helping hands, which make the helper-function work ... :O) Happy VIMming! mcc BTW, instead of all those put statements, wouldn't it be simpler to have your template as a separate file, and use :r filename to insert it after the cursor? Best regards, Tonoy. Hi Tony, ...hrrr clear answer: yesno! :O) Yes: It would be the cleaner and more flexible way to implement this, no doubt! No : Currently it is the only thing inserting an header/template or such into text. It would just add another file to care of. As soon as I have more than a single template to handle, it will surely the better way to do it with seperated files. By the way: Is there a way to puts more than a single line? Something like an HERE-doc? :h permutations of 'here-doc' gives me nothing... Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Plain TeX support ?
From: Benji Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plain TeX support ?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:31:33 -0400
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:07:22PM +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
[snip]
After I wrote my first TeX-text without Emacs/AucTeX spontaneous I
would say the following things are missing:
A Keystrokes to insert {\bf X }, {\it X \/} and such where X marks the
cursor position after doing the keystroke.
B Interface to run TeX and a viewer (configurable) on the file one is
editing which ensures, that the file on the HD is uptodate.
C Defintions to automatically map word to ``word'' and to remap
- in my case - german umlauts to the TeX-commandsequences. This
should be done for any non-ASCII-character. Most of the bugs I had
to remove while trying to tex my file were of such kind.
I have not proofen that this is not already implemented, I only read
the few lines of the help text for ft-tex-plugin. And didn't fiddle
with quickfix and such. May be quickfix can be misused for texing ?
Dont know.
I am sorry to have left this alone for so long. I have been busy.
I spent too much time, shortly after the last note on this thread,
trying to get the 'errorformat' right for plain TeX, then I did not have
time to let you know about it.
I just posted a preliminary version of plaintex support at
http://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=1685
Please try it out. If I get any feedback (from you or others) then I am
more likely to improve it.
A. I chose C-B for \bf and C-T for \it . (Why not C-I? Because
vim sees that as a Tab, and I do not want to remap that.) In Insert
mode, you get {\bf }++ or {\it \/}++, with the cursor inside the
braces, and C-J will jump to the ++ marker. In Visual mode, you get
the Visual selection wrapped in {\bf and } or {\it and \/}.
In Normal mode, the word under the cursor is wrapped.
If you have similar requests, they are easy to add.
B. Next version. This is not too hard to do. What viewer do you use?
xdvi maybe?
C. I map (in Insert mode) to produce either `` or '' (or if it is
after a \ or in Math mode). Do you also want something, maybe C-Q, to
act like C-B, so that it will work in Normal, Visual, and Insert
modes?
I have not tried it, but there is already a script that translates
various non-ASCII characters into TeX commands. I think it does the
translation when reading and writing the file. Unfortunately,
www.vim.org is not responding right now, so I cannot give you a pointer.
[snip]
PS: By the way: Are you using Ruby, Benji? I know The principle of
least surprise from programming Ruby...
No, I do not use Ruby. I think the principle is older than that
language.
HTH --Benji Fisher
Hi Benji,
thank you very much for implementing this! I will test it... :O)
Keep hacking!
mcc
Terminating search in function
Hi, I wrote this snippet: fun! Ffunchdr() let date = strftime( %F ) put='/*-*/' put='/**' put=' * desc' put=' *' put=' *' put=' *' put=' * Created: ' . date . ' put=' *' put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' * parameter: put=' *' put=' * result 0 - Success, -1 - Failure' put=' *' put=' */' ?desc endfun command! Funchdr :call Ffunchdr() This should give nme the header comment for function definitions in C. My problem seems to be the ?desc command at the end. It /should/ move the cursor onto the desc keyword right in the beginning of the comment block. But it move the cursor to here: * desc ^ | cursor position My analysis (a too big word...) of the problem is: ? is still waiting for input. I tried ?descCR instead, but now ? tries to find descCR literally and did not find it. There seem to be an exception of the type the commands as you would do normally-rule here...but what is the rule to recognize that the current situation is an exception and what is the solution? Thank you very much in advance for any help ! :) Have a nice weekend! mcc
Re: Slightly OT: HELP! IDE ahead !
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slightly OT: HELP! IDE ahead ! Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:51:50 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, Is it possible to convince kdevelop from using vim? I searched the web but the only source of information I found was of kvim -- and its homepage isn't there anymore. Any ideas? Thank you very much in advanve for any help! Keep hacking! mcc I'll suppose you mean convince kdevelop to use Vim, not away from using Vim. I don't use kdevelop myself, but I think the following should work: 1. Open Konqueror. 2. Type settings:/Components/ in the Location Bar. 3. Click Vim Embedding. 4. In the popup which opens now, open the tab Vim Executable Selection 5. Select the radio button Vim/X11 Communication (if it is greyed out, then proceed with steps 6 and 7 below and select the radio button after doing them). 6. Click the Browse button (usually a blue folder-like icon) next to the top type-in bar, and browse to the location of your Vim executable (e.g. /usr/local/bin/vim ). It must be a Vim executable with at least +gui and +clientserver compiled-in; +eval is recommended. 7. If you click Test, it will display whether this Vim executable has GUI and client-server features compiled-in, and at which version. Depending on your GUI version, there may be a popup warning; but if you're using an up-to-date binary it shouldn't be a problem. 8. Click OK to close the popup. Close Konqueror if you don't need it for something else. 9. In kdevelop, select Settings - Configure KDevelop - Editor, and make sure that Embedded Editor is set to Embedded Advanced Text Editor. Then click OK. If that doesn't work, you may need to search the KDE help; but I hope the above can put you on the right track. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, :) yes of course...! I mean what you have said, not what I have written... :) ;O) Again my german English hits me... My company plans to unify the use of tools. Kdevelop for all! Top down analysis for the masses! Ok, I will not comment on this. For me it is more important to have unified code styles, tab spaces and so on instead of the same editor to produce the results...as it is allowed to configure KDE/kdevelop...we will see... I will check your recipe! Thank you very much for your help Tony! : Dont worry, ask Tony ! :O)) --- VERY BIG SMILEY! Have a nice day!!! mcc
Slightly OT: HELP! IDE ahead !
Hi, Is it possible to convince kdevelop from using vim? I searched the web but the only source of information I found was of kvim -- and its homepage isn't there anymore. Any ideas? Thank you very much in advanve for any help! Keep hacking! mcc
Version confusion
Hi, For the real vim junkie there are several sources for the real stuff ( == newest versions of vim/scripts/plugins et cetera available). I myself use to update my vim source with the newest patches and download the runtime files on a regular base. Furthermore I download the newest CVS stuff from vim-ruby, the ruby support files for vim. The vim-ruby files go into ~/.vim/ The runtime files go into /usr/share/vim/vim70 (== $VIMRUNTIME) The result of the compilation of the sources go also to $VIMRUNTIME (and non-scripts to other places). I recognized, that some files are doubled: Older version of the vim-ruby support files go also to $VIMRUNTIM. Furthermore: Newly installed vimruntimefiles will be overridden with older ones from the compilation results of the vim sources (when a new patch is available...). As it seems with this practice of trying to have always the newest vim stuff on my hd I will shoot into my own feet... If vim recognized a script file which it has already loaded from another place, will it be loaded ? Has vim an automatism to load the script with the highest versioning? How can I simplify the update of my whole vim environment without the need to look into each single file whether it is newer/older as another file of the same name at another place and what version of this file will work with what version of another file of the same suit at shat place? Keep hacking! mcc
:tab does not open in new tab in some cases ?
:hi
I did the following mappings:
map F12 ESC:tab e ~/.vimrcCRC-W_
map S-F12 ESC:tab e ~/.zshrcCRC-W_
I start vim without any argument and press
F12
. ${HOME}/.vimrc opens but does not create an entry in the tab pages
line at the top of my Vim window -- so far so nice, since it is the
first file loaded and showtabline == 1.
Then I press
Shift-F12
. ${HOME}/.zshrc appears. This is the second file, but still no tab
pages line appears.
Then I do
:tab h :tab
and TADA! the tab pages line apears, showing ~/.zshrc and
tabpages.txt
With
:tabn
I can switch to ${HOME}/.zshrc. Now the tab pages line shows
~/.zshrc and tabpages.txt.
This is at least a little confusing (at least?) to me.
What is the logic of showing/not showing a tab pages line entry ?
Thank you very much in advance for any help !
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: Paren highlighting and jump to
From: Wolfgang Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Paren highlighting and jump to Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:45:49 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, (I am vim 7.0.131 on the console only on a recent gentoo Linux system) I looked into :h paren but found nothing appropiate... Currently my vim highlights matching parens. This is nice as long the corrosponding paren are on different lines or at least not grouped like this: (x) Additionally my cursor changes its color depending on whether it is in insert or normal mode. When the cursor is at the position of the x in the above example, confusion arises, since so much color on one place is...confusing. I would like to make the cursor to jump shortly to the other paren as long there is nothing typed in. Hi, I thing what you're looking for is showmatch (:h showmatch), you can set it with :set showmatch or :set sm Cheers, Wolfgang Hi Wolfgang! oh YES! (this is a classical flat hand against my fore head-effect)! Once one sees the solution, it is totally unclear, why one has asked for it... :) Thanks a lot ! Have a nice weekend! mcc
Re: Mapping german umlauts
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping german umlauts
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:41:22 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
Hi,
I want to remap the german umlauts to {,[,] and } in normal
mode only.
When I type the umlauts on the commandline of my zsh there is no
problem.
When I type them in insert mode in vim: no problems.
Therefore I /think/ (read: dont no for sure) that there should be no
problem.
In my $HOME/.vimrc I wrote:
nnoremap o [
nnoremap a ]
nnoremap O {
nnoremap A }
(I replaced the umlauts with their corresponding vowels here in this
mail only -- just to make them displayable in any case...)
But this does not work. With the :map command I can see the maps but
the umlauts looks like 8bit-something. Two of them are displayed as
two characters.
Then I tried:
nnoremap o [
nnoremap a ]
nnoremap O {
nnoremap A }
which results in nothing: Now the corrupted maps via the :map
command has vanished completly.
Now I got an Error message displayed in front of my inner eye:
WARNING! Idea stack underflow!
What can I try else ?
Thank you very much for any help in advance !
Keep hacking!
mcc
You should not change 'encoding' after setting your maps; and if your vimrc's
'fileencoding' is not your 'encoding' then it ought to have a
:scriptencoding statement.
Or else, you can encode it in 7-bit ASCII using Char-nn notation, e.g.
exe noremap Char-196 } | LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
exe noremap Char-214 { | LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
exe noremap Char-228 ] | LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
exe noremap Char-246 [ | LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS
The above should work regardless of whether your 'encoding' is Latin1, UTF-8,
or (I think) cp1252; but if you use an 'encoding' different from your
locale
charset, you should still set 'encoding' first and define the mappings
afterwards. (I use :exe wrapping here to allow a comment on the same line.)
Similarly:
Ä 196 0xC4LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
Ö 214 0xD6LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
Ü 220 0xDCLATIN CAPITAL U WITH DIAERESIS
ß 223 0xDFLATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S
ä 228 0xE4LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
ö 246 0xF6LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS
ü 252 0xFCLATIN SMALL U WITH DIAERESIS
see
:help Char
:help :scriptencoding
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf
etc.
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony,
:)
What should I say? Thank you so much for your kind help, Tony!
becomes a little boring to you in the meanwhile I think, doesn't it?
:O)
Probably it is a good idea starting to collect the Tony Files or an
AI-help-feature for vim with command sequences like:
:Tony I-have-an-edit-problem
or
:Tony umlaut-not-working
or
:Tony your problem here
For me as a still-vim-newbie it is often difficult to analyse the
root of the problems I have with vim.
But hopefully this will change one day.
Boring or not: Thanks a lot for your kind help, Tony!!! :O)\+
Keep hacking!
mcc
PS:
There is still a question open to me, Tony...
On a german keyboard you have to press Ctrl-AltGr-9 to jump to
a tag under the cursor, which is originally Ctrl-].
This again is bad finger-Yoga (at least for my fingers...;)
This is one reason why I wanted used the umlauts in normalmode to act
as [,],{ and } (no one needs gemran umaluts in normal mode,
so I will loose nothing...)
Unfortunately Ctrl-umlaut-a (umlaut-a is mapped to ] now...) does not
work as tag-inator. Is this one of these
certain-special-keys-cannot-be-used-in-mappings problem, is this due
to the nnoremap (instead of nmap...), which forbids later
re-remapping, do I have to remap this sepeartely or am I simply to
stupid ? ;)
Keep hacking II !
mcc
Re: Mapping german umlauts
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping german umlauts
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:28:51 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
[...]
PS:
There is still a question open to me, Tony...
On a german keyboard you have to press Ctrl-AltGr-9 to jump to
a tag under the cursor, which is originally Ctrl-].
This again is bad finger-Yoga (at least for my fingers...;)
This is one reason why I wanted used the umlauts in normalmode to act
as [,],{ and } (no one needs gemran umaluts in normal mode,
so I will loose nothing...)
Unfortunately Ctrl-umlaut-a (umlaut-a is mapped to ] now...) does not
work as tag-inator. Is this one of these
certain-special-keys-cannot-be-used-in-mappings problem, is this due
to the nnoremap (instead of nmap...), which forbids later
re-remapping, do I have to remap this sepeartely or am I simply to
stupid ? ;)
Keep hacking II !
mcc
Mapping something to ] doesn't map anything to Ctrl-], you have to do it
separately.
On my Belgian keyboard on SUSE Linux, CTRL doesn't work with any
nonalphabetic
printable key (in particular, it doesn't work with ]). There are two
solutions:
a) Use the mouse (double-clicking a help hyperlink activates it)
b) Use a mapping.
I use
:map F9 C-]
but of course you can use any {lhs} that suits you if you don't like F9.
Since
this key has no counterpart you might for instance map ß to it, since no one
needs the eszett in Normal mode either.
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony,
things are becoming better !
Using the umlauts for {,[,] and } makes things a lot easier
and far more convenient.
But there are still things I dont understand...as always...sorry...
I did the following:
LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S
noremap Char-252 C-]
LATIN CAPITAL A WITH DIAERESIS
noremap Char-196 }
LATIN CAPITAL O WITH DIAERESIS
noremap Char-214 {
LATIN SMALL A WITH DIAERESIS
noremap Char-228 ]
LATIN SMALL O WITH DIAERESIS
noremap Char-246 [
which works in normal mode. In insert mode the umlauts appears as
umlauts as it should be. But: WHY?
If I understood the according help correctly noremap is a short
form of no remap. And it is not bound to any mode -- and
_n_noremap (for example) is bound to normal mode.
Therefore (according to my obviously wrong logic...;) the above
mapping would apply also to insert mode. But it does not (and it
should not, since the umlauts are needed in insert).
More mysteriously: Using nnoremap -- as I think it would make the
above mappings only to apply in normal mode -- for the above mappings
breaks everything: no {,[,] or } at the umlaut-keys in normal
mode.
The other thing what I tried was to map every ( every = what I
could find and thought it would be nice to have ) combination of
something and the {,[,],} to combinations with the umluat
keys in the appropiate mode.
I wrote:
noremap Char-228-Char-228 ]]
noremap Char-246-Char-246 [[
noremap Char-246-Char-228 []
noremap Char-228-Char-246 ][
which works with the mysterious charme as described above as far as
I could test it (normap - nnoremap)
Then I did:
vnoremap a-Char-246 a[
vnoremap a-Char-228 a]
vnoremap i-Char-246 i[
vnoremap i-Char-228 i]
vnoremap a-Char-214 a{
vnoremap a-Char-196 a}
vnoremap i-Char-214 i{
vnoremap i-Char-196 i}
for the motions in visual mode -- and it fails totally.
Again I got stuck.
Thanks a lot for any help in advance ! :O)
Keep hacking!
mcc
Back to the Future! (...hrrrm...) ...the previous line!
Hi, I would like an uninterrupted Left and Right stepping. Example This ist the end of the previous line.x$ This is the beginnging of the line.$ ^ My cursor is here Now...when pressing Left I would like the cursor to jump to x in the previous line. And vice versa. Is it possible? Thanks a lot for any help in advance! Keep hacking! mcc
Local scope ?
Hi, when writing a function in vim script sometimes it makes sense to change options of vim. Are these changes local to the function ? And if not: Can I simply assign the current value of the option to a variable, change the option and restore the option value from the value stored in that variable ? Or is this way just another kind of shooting into my own feet ? :) Keep hacking! mcc
Nul ?
Hi, what does it mean or what is the meaining of: When i_Ctrl-k key returns Nul ??? Do I have pressed a ghost-key ??? Keep hacking mcc
Re: Nul ?
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nul ? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:12:46 +0300 On 10/2/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does it mean or what is the meaining of: When i_Ctrl-k key returns Nul ??? It means you pressed Ctrl-@ Yakov Interesting...but I pressed Ctrl-Space... :) Mismapped key? Do I have to fix it via Xmodmap? Keep hacking! mc
Re: Nul ?
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nul ? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:18:31 +0300 On 10/2/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nul ? Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:12:46 +0300 On 10/2/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does it mean or what is the meaining of: When i_Ctrl-k key returns Nul ??? It means you pressed Ctrl-@ Yakov Interesting...but I pressed Ctrl-Space... :) Hmmm why do you press unknown buttons when adults are not at home ? :-) Mismapped key? Do I have to fix it via Xmodmap? Keep hacking! :) but more seriously: If Ctrl-@ and Ctrl-space and unknown button all lead to Null, then there is someting wrong, isn't it? Q: WHere is something wrong ??? Keep hacking! mcc
Mapping of keysequences...
Hi, is it possible to map the sequence of C-CC-Fb to anything (and how?)? I tried as a first brute-force experiment noremap C-CC-Fb echo works But it does not works... :) Any chance to do such a trick? Thanks a lot for any help ! keep hacking! mcc
Re: Mapping of keysequences...
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mapping of keysequences... Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:09:17 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, is it possible to map the sequence of C-CC-Fb to anything (and how?)? I tried as a first brute-force experiment noremap C-CC-Fb echo works But it does not works... :) Any chance to do such a trick? Thanks a lot for any help ! keep hacking! mcc Mapping Ctrl-C works only when Vim is waiting for input (see help map_CTRL-C); however, your brute-force method is in error. You should have tried :noremap C-CC-Fb :echo worksCR with a colon to start an Ex-command and a carriage-return to end it. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, ah...oh! Yes! I should had know this... With the additional : and CR it works nicely! *THANKS* :O) Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Mapping of keysequences...
From: Mikolaj Machowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping of keysequences...
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:09:56 +0200
Dnia niedziela, 1 października 2006 14:54, Meino Christian Cramer napisał:
Hi,
is it possible to map the sequence of
C-CC-Fb
to anything (and how?)?
I tried as a first brute-force experiment
noremap C-CC-Fb echo works
If you want to print it in the buffer it should be::
noremap C-CC-Fb iecho works
If you want to echo it in command line::
noremap C-CC-Fb :echo works
Normal mode mappings begin in Normal mode, not Insert or Command-Line.
m.
HmmmppffI got a problem here...
What I want is to insert the string {\bf } (TeX!) in a buffer. It
should work in insert mode. I want to press C-CC-Fb in insert mode
and it should print {\bf } at the place where currently the cursor
is.
I did
inoremap C-CC-Fb iecho {\bf }
. And guess what happens? It prints iecho {\bf } into the buffer!
When using 'noremap' instead of 'inoremap' nothing happens.
:he iecho
gives me simply nothing. Is there any needle in the haystack I can
search for?
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: Mapping of keysequences...
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping of keysequences...
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:40:47 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
From: Mikolaj Machowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping of keysequences...
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:09:56 +0200
Dnia niedziela, 1 października 2006 14:54, Meino Christian Cramer napisał:
Hi,
is it possible to map the sequence of
C-CC-Fb
to anything (and how?)?
I tried as a first brute-force experiment
noremap C-CC-Fb echo works
If you want to print it in the buffer it should be::
noremap C-CC-Fb iecho works
If you want to echo it in command line::
noremap C-CC-Fb :echo works
Normal mode mappings begin in Normal mode, not Insert or Command-Line.
m.
HmmmppffI got a problem here...
What I want is to insert the string {\bf } (TeX!) in a buffer. It
should work in insert mode. I want to press C-CC-Fb in insert mode
and it should print {\bf } at the place where currently the cursor
is.
I did
inoremap C-CC-Fb iecho {\bf }
. And guess what happens? It prints iecho {\bf } into the buffer!
When using 'noremap' instead of 'inoremap' nothing happens.
:he iecho
gives me simply nothing. Is there any needle in the haystack I can
search for?
Keep hacking!
mcc
If you are already in Insert mode, the right-hand side of the mapping is used
as if you had typed it. To insert left-brace backslash bee eff space
right-brace, use
:inoremap C-CC-Fb {\bf }
To do the same from Normal mode, use
:noremapC-DC-Fb i{\bf }Esc
with i to enter Insert mode and Esc to leave it.
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony !
nice to read you again! And thank you very much for your
help,help,help... :) - BIG smiley!
Slowly and surely I get my TeX macro working...
What I have now is the following:
inoremap C-CC-Fb {\bf #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
inoremap C-CC-Fi {\it #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
inoremap C-CC-Fs {\sl #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
which works. A last wish I would have is: After 'c'hanging the '#'
to what I really want to typeset I will press ESC to leave
'c'hanging and insert mode. But my cursor still is inside of the {}
Is it possible to let the macros recognize the pressing of 'ESC'
and then jump behind the '}' and may be entering 'i'nsert mode again?
Or may be I need a completly different implementation of those macros
for that?
I often feel, that I am not thinking vim-y enough. ;o)
Thanks a lot for all your help!
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: .vim_logout ???
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: .vim_logout ??? Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:31:44 +0300 On 10/1/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: .vim_logout ??? Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:05:28 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I am looking for a way to execute some lines of vim-script everytime when ich leave vim (end the programm). Are there any hooks, which I can use for such a task ? Keep hacking! mcc :autocmd VimLeave * any ex-command here Most (but not all) autocommands can be placed on one line, separated by | (A few will take a following | as part of their arguments.) You can also use several :autocmd lines (the autocommands are executed in the order defined), or, if you want a more complex script, you can e.g. do :autocmd VimLeave * source ~/.vim/macros/logout.vim see :help :autocmd :help VimLeave Best regards Hi, h...it still does not work, which definitely is my fault. The situation: I set if term =~ xterm-256color let t_SI = \Esc]12;red\x7 let t_EI = \Esc]12;white\x7 endif which set the color of the cursor to reflect the mode (insert/normal) vim is in. The drawback of this is: When leaving vim, the color of the cursor of the terminal from which vim was started, is effected. This may result in a non visible or less then optimal readability of the cursor. So why not to reset the cursor color? I did the following: autocmd VimLeave * let t_EI = \Esc]12;green\x7 No, this will not work (vim's builtin echo translates Esc to ^[). Try something like: autocmd VimLeave * silent !echo -e '\e]12;green\007' (untested) Yakov Hi Yakov ! Thanks a lot for the reply and your helping hands! I will see, how grenn I can get the cursor with it ! :))) keep hacking! mcc
Re: Mapping of keysequences...
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping of keysequences...
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:44:39 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
[...]
Hi Tony !
nice to read you again! And thank you very much for your
help,help,help... :) - BIG smiley!
Slowly and surely I get my TeX macro working...
What I have now is the following:
inoremap C-CC-Fb {\bf #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
inoremap C-CC-Fi {\it #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
inoremap C-CC-Fs {\sl #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
which works. A last wish I would have is: After 'c'hanging the '#'
to what I really want to typeset I will press ESC to leave
'c'hanging and insert mode. But my cursor still is inside of the {}
Is it possible to let the macros recognize the pressing of 'ESC'
and then jump behind the '}' and may be entering 'i'nsert mode again?
Or may be I need a completly different implementation of those macros
for that?
I often feel, that I am not thinking vim-y enough. ;o)
Thanks a lot for all your help!
Keep hacking!
mcc
The {rhs} (right-hand side) of a mapping is exactly the sequence of keys as
you would hit them to accomplish the desired action. In Insert mode you can
move the cursor using Left Right etc., so instead of Esc?#CR you can
use LeftLeft. This means that you can leave out the # in the first place,
and just use one Left to place the cursor before the }. You then remain in
Insert mode to insert whatever you want through the keyboard after the
mapping
has finished:
:imap C-CC-Fb {\bf }Left
etc.
If you want the _next_ use of Esc to move the cursor after the } then it
becomes more intricate: you will need to use a function as {rhs} to return
the
required string and remap Esc as a side-effect; but what you remap Esc
to must not only do the required cursor move but also unmap itself. In this
case I don't think the game is worth the candle, especially if {\bf } {\it }
{\sl } etc. can be nested. It may be simpler to just hit Right to go past
the right-bracket when you want to close the {\bf or similar.
Another possibility is to simply yank these strings (without the closing
brace) into some registers (which will be saved in your viminfo so you do
this
only once, at the command-line):
:let @b = '{\bf '
:let @i = '{\it '
:let @s = '{\sl '
(Note the _single_ quotes.) Then, in Insert mode, C-Rb will insert
{\bfSpace and similarly for the other two (even after you close and reopen
Vim, without the need to reenter them). Hit } to close the (bold?) text area.
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony,
as I said...I am currently not thinking vim-y enough ... :)))
With Left it is so much easier to achieve the wanted effect than
jumping betwen the modes and inserting things only for the purpose of
replaceing them with something different...
And the register-trick with @b,@f,@s is even more simpler!
One last question:
Will it hurt or eat up my system resources :) when I insert the 'let'
commands into my .vimrc?
This is to avoid haveing one part of a macro in .vimrc and the
other one in .viminfonot to confuse myself right in the beginning
of learning of vim if not needed.
Thank you very much, Tony !
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: Mapping of keysequences...
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping of keysequences...
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:34:31 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mapping of keysequences...
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:44:39 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
[...]
Hi Tony !
nice to read you again! And thank you very much for your
help,help,help... :) - BIG smiley!
Slowly and surely I get my TeX macro working...
What I have now is the following:
inoremap C-CC-Fb {\bf #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
inoremap C-CC-Fi {\it #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
inoremap C-CC-Fs {\sl #}ESC?#CRc/}CR
which works. A last wish I would have is: After 'c'hanging the '#'
to what I really want to typeset I will press ESC to leave
'c'hanging and insert mode. But my cursor still is inside of the {}
Is it possible to let the macros recognize the pressing of 'ESC'
and then jump behind the '}' and may be entering 'i'nsert mode again?
Or may be I need a completly different implementation of those macros
for that?
I often feel, that I am not thinking vim-y enough. ;o)
Thanks a lot for all your help!
Keep hacking!
mcc
The {rhs} (right-hand side) of a mapping is exactly the sequence of keys
as
you would hit them to accomplish the desired action. In Insert mode you
can
move the cursor using Left Right etc., so instead of Esc?#CR you
can
use LeftLeft. This means that you can leave out the # in the first
place,
and just use one Left to place the cursor before the }. You then remain
in
Insert mode to insert whatever you want through the keyboard after the
mapping
has finished:
:imap C-CC-Fb {\bf }Left
etc.
If you want the _next_ use of Esc to move the cursor after the } then it
becomes more intricate: you will need to use a function as {rhs} to return
the
required string and remap Esc as a side-effect; but what you remap
Esc
to must not only do the required cursor move but also unmap itself. In
this
case I don't think the game is worth the candle, especially if {\bf } {\it
}
{\sl } etc. can be nested. It may be simpler to just hit Right to go
past
the right-bracket when you want to close the {\bf or similar.
Another possibility is to simply yank these strings (without the closing
brace) into some registers (which will be saved in your viminfo so you do
this
only once, at the command-line):
:let @b = '{\bf '
:let @i = '{\it '
:let @s = '{\sl '
(Note the _single_ quotes.) Then, in Insert mode, C-Rb will insert
{\bfSpace and similarly for the other two (even after you close and
reopen
Vim, without the need to reenter them). Hit } to close the (bold?) text
area.
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony,
as I said...I am currently not thinking vim-y enough ... :)))
With Left it is so much easier to achieve the wanted effect than
jumping betwen the modes and inserting things only for the purpose of
replaceing them with something different...
And the register-trick with @b,@f,@s is even more simpler!
One last question:
Will it hurt or eat up my system resources :) when I insert the 'let'
commands into my .vimrc?
well, it will just (after the first time) place into your registers what is
already there because your viminfo automatically saves it from session to
session. The resources it eats up are, I suppose, a few bytes of vimrc
disk space and a few milliseconds of startup time ;-). Nothing much to worry
about.
This is to avoid haveing one part of a macro in .vimrc and the
other one in .viminfonot to confuse myself right in the beginning
of learning of vim if not needed.
Thank you very much, Tony !
Keep hacking!
mcc
And if you put these three values in the registers, you don't need anything
for this in the vimrc -- there is no other part. Ctrl-R letter (in Insert
mode) directly invokes the corresponding register. Similarly Ctrl-R + (the
system clipboard), Ctrl-R / (the latest search pattern), etc.
There are several ways to invoke each register:
x in Normal mode commands (y, d, p etc.)
@x in expressions and in :let, :redir, etc.
x in the argument to :yank, :put etc.
x in the first argument to setreg() etc.
C-Rx in Insert/Replace and Command-line modes
In all these cases, the register is the same if the letter is the same. And
if
you ever forget what is in your registers, there is always the :reg[isters]
command.
Best regards,
Tony.
Thanks for all, Tony!!! :O)
I think Bram should add
:he Tony
-support in vim which prints your email address...
or may be it is not what you really want, isn't ir ;O)
(just kidding)
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: .vim_logout ???
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: .vim_logout ??? Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:05:28 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I am looking for a way to execute some lines of vim-script everytime when ich leave vim (end the programm). Are there any hooks, which I can use for such a task ? Keep hacking! mcc :autocmd VimLeave * any ex-command here Most (but not all) autocommands can be placed on one line, separated by | (A few will take a following | as part of their arguments.) You can also use several :autocmd lines (the autocommands are executed in the order defined), or, if you want a more complex script, you can e.g. do :autocmd VimLeave * source ~/.vim/macros/logout.vim see :help :autocmd :help VimLeave Best regards Hi Tony ! thanks a lot again for your hepl fuil reply !!! I only know autocmd for executing filetype related stuff - and therefore haven't even a spark of the idea to :he for that topic. The reason for asking is: I used t_SI and t_EI to switch the color of the cursor for INSERT and NORMAL mode to refect it a little nearer to the place where my looks at (the text normally and not the command line below). Sideeffect: When leaving vim, the cursor of the underlaying shell/terminal gets changed. This way I hope to revert the effect. Have a nice weekend!!! mcc
Re: splitting $HOME/.vimrc
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: splitting $HOME/.vimrc Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:26:33 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: [...] By the way: I am using Linux. Since kernel 1.1.54 my room has no windows anymore ;) Keep hacking! mcc Not even X-windows? Best regards, Tony. ohmy fault! I forget to add (tm) ! :O) More seriously: May be that I got an [OK][CANCEL]-allergy... ;) Means: I am using IceWM as windowmanager only. For me KDE/GNOME are too big -- this does not mean, that GNOME/KDE are _bad_ ... they only dont fit my needs. I use the windowmanager mostly for haveing more terminals with more lines of text and more rows on more desktops with a more conveniently way to switch from one to another. And yes, I am using things like k3b or digikam (and have therefore a rudimentary KDE/GNOME installed -- just to be able to compile a few of their applikations...). But mainly I like text based UIs more than heavily graphic based UIs. May be that is based on the faxt that I can read better than draw?! Dont know I feel, that the mapping the possibilities of an computer onto the simplicity of an [OK][CANCEL]-based world is a limititation I dont want to accept for me. This is not identical to the acceptance of unreadable manuals/help texts, which do mention everything at places no one can find without reading the complete text! Read the source, Luke may be an intellectual approach rhetorical-wise but do not help really. Only my two cents...your mileage may vary... Keep hacking! mcc
scripting of listing commands
Hi, I want to write a little function in vim script to put all settings into a file. I want the output of :map :version :set (and more of this kind, if I will find them all...) to go into that file. From the list I learned that redir is the command of choice here. But I want the function to doi its work non-interactively. But :map (for example) wants SPACE to be pressed. Hmmm... Can I do something like :ignore_guy_in_front_of_the_monitormap (not thinking, that this really exists...) ??? Thanks for any PRESS KEY TO PROCEED help in advance! PRESS KEY TO PROCEED Keep hacking! PRESS KEY TO PROCEED mcc ;)
Re: The meaning of nothing... ?
From: Yegappan Lakshmanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The meaning of nothing... ? Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:01:52 -0700 Hi, On 9/29/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked throught the term/terminfo/termcap/xterm/rxvt/* stuff and have more questions than answers now. Do you know a document or HowTo or something linke that which will give me more closer informations about the term* handling in linux and/or its terminal emulations ? The following links may give you this information: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO.html http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal_index.html - Yegappan For example: Is it generally impossible to switch the cusor's _shape_ (not only its color!) from bar to block and back inside the console version (gvim started as vim but with --enable-gui compile) of vim with t_SI/t_EI ??? Thank you very much for you help in advance! mcc Hi Yegappan ! Thanks for the links ! :) Keep hacking! mcc
Re: scripting of listing commands
From: Yegappan Lakshmanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: scripting of listing commands Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:33:40 -0700 Hi, On 9/30/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to write a little function in vim script to put all settings into a file. I want the output of :map :version :set (and more of this kind, if I will find them all...) to go into that file. From the list I learned that redir is the command of choice here. But I want the function to doi its work non-interactively. But :map (for example) wants SPACE to be pressed. Hmmm... Can I do something like :ignore_guy_in_front_of_the_monitormap (not thinking, that this really exists...) ??? You can reset the 'more' option to disable the more prompt for the above commands: :set nomore :map :set :version :set more For more information, read the following help: :help 'more' :help more-prompt - Yegappan Hi Yegappan, oh, yeah! That's helps a lot! :O) Keep hacking! mcc
Re: The meaning of nothing... ?
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The meaning of nothing... ? Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:42:56 +0200 Yakov Lerner wrote: [...] Something more on the topic. - To print full termnifo capabilities of terminal 'xterm' from file /usr/share/terminfo/x/xtern: infocmp xterm - to list all terminals in the terminfo database: ls -R /usr/share/terminfo/ toe Yakov or maybe ls -Rl /usr/share/terminfo ~/termlist.txt On my system, there are 2502 names, including 1010 aliases (i.e. soft links). Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, hi Yakov! :) the term information database on my system is not the problem in that way. What I am trying to try :) is to dump the builtin term settings of vim in a way so I can manipulate the systems term settings, cause many systems carry faulty termcap/terminfo databases. So -- if vims terminfo settings for a certain terminal are better -- why not to use them system wide ? It is not the problem to dump and or reveal the terminfos of my Linux :) Keep hacking! mcc
Re: The meaning of nothing... ?
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The meaning of nothing... ? Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 06:05:08 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: [...] Hi Tony, hi Yakov! :) the term information database on my system is not the problem in that way. What I am trying to try :) is to dump the builtin term settings of vim in a way so I can manipulate the systems term settings, cause many systems carry faulty termcap/terminfo databases. So -- if vims terminfo settings for a certain terminal are better -- why not to use them system wide ? It is not the problem to dump and or reveal the terminfos of my Linux :) Keep hacking! mcc Well, :redir termcap.txt :set termcap :redir END You may still have to do some editing before the file can be used as input to the terminfo compiler. See man 5 terminfo man 1 tic from the shell. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, I will try this! Thanks for the input! Keep hacking! mcc
Re: .vim_logout ???
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: .vim_logout ??? Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:05:28 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I am looking for a way to execute some lines of vim-script everytime when ich leave vim (end the programm). Are there any hooks, which I can use for such a task ? Keep hacking! mcc :autocmd VimLeave * any ex-command here Most (but not all) autocommands can be placed on one line, separated by | (A few will take a following | as part of their arguments.) You can also use several :autocmd lines (the autocommands are executed in the order defined), or, if you want a more complex script, you can e.g. do :autocmd VimLeave * source ~/.vim/macros/logout.vim see :help :autocmd :help VimLeave Best regards Hi, h...it still does not work, which definitely is my fault. The situation: I set if term =~ xterm-256color let t_SI = \Esc]12;red\x7 let t_EI = \Esc]12;white\x7 endif which set the color of the cursor to reflect the mode (insert/normal) vim is in. The drawback of this is: When leaving vim, the color of the cursor of the terminal from which vim was started, is effected. This may result in a non visible or less then optimal readability of the cursor. So why not to reset the cursor color? I did the following: autocmd VimLeave * let t_EI = \Esc]12;green\x7 which _should_ set the cursor back to the original color. This does not work. Then I tried (experimental...not based on any knowledge ;O) ) autocmd VimLeave * echo \Esc]12;green\x7 which also does not work. WARNING! IDEA STACK UNDERFLOW was the next error I got. ;) Is there a way to reset the cursor color to normal...and... Is there a way to determine the original cursor color before tweaking t_SI and t_EI, to remember the color and to use it in the reset-cursor-color-code instead of hardcoding it ? Thank you very much for any help in advance ! keep hacking! mcc
Re: The meaning of nothing... ?
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The meaning of nothing... ? Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:58:28 +0200 Yakov Lerner wrote: On 9/29/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, to get all the keys of my keyboard working with vim I looked through my ~/.vimrc and found a setting (nottybuiltin), which I do revert and now a few addtional keys (C-F1 for example) do work correctly. So it seems, that the xterm256 definition, which I use, isn't completly defined in my terminfo database. Can I dump (or whatever the correct nameing is) the xterm256 settings vim is using internally in a form which I can use to correct my (buggy?) terminfo database ? The closest form to what you ask is ':set terminfo '. It does not dump terminal defs in terminfo format, no, but it does show it in some format. Yakov E518: Unknown option: terminfo I suppose you mean :set termcap. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, hi Yakov! I looked throught the term/terminfo/termcap/xterm/rxvt/* stuff and have more questions than answers now. Do you know a document or HowTo or something linke that which will give me more closer informations about the term* handling in linux and/or its terminal emulations ? For example: Is it generally impossible to switch the cusor's _shape_ (not only its color!) from bar to block and back inside the console version (gvim started as vim but with --enable-gui compile) of vim with t_SI/t_EI ??? Thank you very much for you help in advance! mcc
The meaning of nothing... ?
Hi, to get all the keys of my keyboard working with vim I looked through my ~/.vimrc and found a setting (nottybuiltin), which I do revert and now a few addtional keys (C-F1 for example) do work correctly. So it seems, that the xterm256 definition, which I use, isn't completly defined in my terminfo database. Can I dump (or whatever the correct nameing is) the xterm256 settings vim is using internally in a form which I can use to correct my (buggy?) terminfo database ? Keep hacking! mcc
Re: The meaning of nothing... ?
From: Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The meaning of nothing... ? Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:17:20 +0200 (CEST) Hu.sorry.contents of the mail is correct... But the subject is related to another mail I wrote. SORRY. mcc Hi, to get all the keys of my keyboard working with vim I looked through my ~/.vimrc and found a setting (nottybuiltin), which I do revert and now a few addtional keys (C-F1 for example) do work correctly. So it seems, that the xterm256 definition, which I use, isn't completly defined in my terminfo database. Can I dump (or whatever the correct nameing is) the xterm256 settings vim is using internally in a form which I can use to correct my (buggy?) terminfo database ? Keep hacking! mcc
splitting $HOME/.vimrc
Hi, for my zsh I split the .zshrc in several files, which contain only related things. For example all bindkey-related things go into .zsh.bindkey. .zshrc only sources those parts if available. Make things more readable. I would like to do the same thing with my $HOME/.vimrc. I looked into :he source but source seems to work for ex commands only, or ? Is there a way, to source several files as startup files from within $HOME/.vimrc, without a too great performance penalty on startup time ? Keep hacking! mcc
Re: splitting $HOME/.vimrc
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: splitting $HOME/.vimrc
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:04:30 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
Hi,
for my zsh I split the .zshrc in several files, which contain only
related things. For example all bindkey-related things go into
.zsh.bindkey.
.zshrc only sources those parts if available. Make things more
readable.
I would like to do the same thing with my $HOME/.vimrc.
I looked into
:he source
but source seems to work for ex commands only, or ?
Is there a way, to source several files as startup files from
within $HOME/.vimrc, without a too great performance penalty on
startup time ?
Keep hacking!
mcc
Your vimrc is supposed to consist of ex-commands only (ex-commands are the
commands you can type in Normal mode by prefixing them with a colon; in a
script such as the vimrc, the colon is not necessary). So you should be able
to dissect your vimrc into, let's say,
if has('unix')
language messages C
else
language messages en
endif
runtime vimrc_example.vim
source ~/rc1.vim
source ~/rc2.vim
source ~/rc3.vim
An alternative would be to create user-plugins, scripts which you would
place in ~/.vim/plugin/ (for Unix) or ~/vimfiles/plugin/ (for Windows). They
would then be sourced automagically in (probably) alphabetical order, just
before the global plugins (i.e., after your ~/.vimrc): see the output of the
:scriptnames command.
(and if you don't yet have the required directory, create it with:
on Linux:
mkdir -p ~/.vim/plugin
on Windows:
cd %HOME%
md vimfiles
cd vimfiles
md plugin
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony, :)
thank you for your helpful reply !
Initially I thought, ex-commands were only a small subset of all
commands, which can be used after :.
But...
If _all_ commands, which are valid after :, are ex-commands...the situation
is
quite simple.
By the way: I am using Linux. Since kernel 1.1.54 my room has no
windows anymore ;)
Keep hacking!
mcc
Re: The meaning of nothing... ?
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The meaning of nothing... ? Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:50:29 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, to get all the keys of my keyboard working with vim I looked through my ~/.vimrc and found a setting (nottybuiltin), which I do revert and now a few addtional keys (C-F1 for example) do work correctly. So it seems, that the xterm256 definition, which I use, isn't completly defined in my terminfo database. Can I dump (or whatever the correct nameing is) the xterm256 settings vim is using internally in a form which I can use to correct my (buggy?) terminfo database ? Keep hacking! mcc I suppose the builtin settings are found somewhere in the Vim source. After a little searching around, I guess you might want to look at lines 936-1082 of src/term.c dated 27-Aug-2006. See also src/term.h for the definition of the symbols used. You may or may not have to do some reformatting to correct your terminfo. Note that the default is 'ttybuiltin' i.e., TRUE, because, it is said, many systems carry faulty termcap/terminfo databases. Best regars, Tony. Hi Tony, :) Thanks for your reply ! I thought there would be a command ( _ex_-command as I have learned a mail before :O)), which dumps the tty settings in a terminfo/termcap-format already. I will look into the source and will see what I can use. Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Meta/Alt-confusion and no end
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Meta/Alt-confusion and no end Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:09:34 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, As VIM insists on getting Meta/Alt-keys as binary codes and not as a ESC-key-combination I tried first to revert the rest of my environment, which handles ESC-key-combinations well to what vim exspects. zsh and mrxvt have option to switch between both (would a solution for vim, too!). The Midnight Commander insists of getting ESC-key-combinations. So I reverted everything back to the previous state (using ESC-key-combinations) and inserted: let c='a' while c != 'z' exec set M-.toupper(c).=\e.c exec imap \e.c. M-.toupper(c). let c = nr2char(1+char2nr(c)) endw in the top of my ~/.vimrc. NOW F1 did the same as 1~ F2 does a 2~ F3 does a 3~ and so on (those are not mapped in any way and should do nothing therefore). F5++ acts normally. Oh, crazy world! I want to esc, too! :-/ Regardless what I am trying to do, I shoot into one of my feet, it seems. How can I solve the problem, without infecting the rest of my environment? Keep hacking! mcc Maybe you can find a $TERM setting which points to some appropriate termcap/terminfo entry for the Esc-something key combos you're using? See also :help termcap :help 'ttybuiltin' :help 'timeout' :help 'ttimeout' :help 'timeoutlen' :help 'ttimeoutlen' etc. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, thanks for your reply !:) Next weekend I will start an intensive termcap science research project ;) on this...may be I will find something. Thanks to you all for your offered help. Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Meta/Alt-confusion and no end
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Meta/Alt-confusion and no end Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:18:06 + On 9/27/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As VIM insists on getting Meta/Alt-keys as binary codes and not as a ESC-key-combination I tried first to revert the rest of my environment, which handles ESC-key-combinations well to what vim exspects. zsh and mrxvt have option to switch between both (would a solution for vim, too!). The Midnight Commander insists of getting ESC-key-combinations. So I reverted everything back to the previous state (using ESC-key-combinations) and inserted: let c='a' while c != 'z' exec set M-.toupper(c).=\e.c exec imap \e.c. M-.toupper(c). let c = nr2char(1+char2nr(c)) endw in the top of my ~/.vimrc. NOW F1 did the same as 1~ Looks like F1-F4 conflict with M-O. Try to avoid using M-O, and remove mapping ESCO (:iunmap EscO). This is quick workaround. There must be better solution that allows to use F1-F4 together with M-O but it will take time to figure. The problem is that F1-F4 generate seauences that begin with EscO Looking at this again, I don't understand why the confusion. F1 generates ^[OP (nb uppercase O), whereas imap from this tip (tip#738) map ^[o (lowercase o). So I don't understand what causes the confusion. Does your F1 generate ^[OP as mine ? Yakov Hi Yakov, thanks for your reply ! :) using i_Ctrl-k it produces [11~ with my console vim (or better a gvim called as vim). So its a little different than yours. What OS you are using ? keep hacking! mcc
Re: Getting the output of some commands into a buffer
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Getting the output of some commands into a buffer Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 05:40:41 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, there are several commands like :map or :version which put a lot of valuable informations (at least for a newbie like me) into a temporary something (buffer seems the wrong nameing to me here). I would like to get the output of those commands into a real buffer and become non non-volatile text. An very very ugly way is to start script typescript start the console version of vim enter :mapcr :qcr press Ctrl-D to end script and try to re-edit the typescript file. But this is *VERY* ugly not only due to the thousands of control-codes. Is there any other cleaner and vim-internal way to do this ? Keep hacking! mcc You can get the output of any such command into either a file or a register, and in Vim version 7 (or later ;-) ) you can also get it into a variable. See :help :redir Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, thanks a lot. That helps! :) Keep hacking! mcc
Getting the output of some commands into a buffer
Hi, there are several commands like :map or :version which put a lot of valuable informations (at least for a newbie like me) into a temporary something (buffer seems the wrong nameing to me here). I would like to get the output of those commands into a real buffer and become non non-volatile text. An very very ugly way is to start script typescript start the console version of vim enter :mapcr :qcr press Ctrl-D to end script and try to re-edit the typescript file. But this is *VERY* ugly not only due to the thousands of control-codes. Is there any other cleaner and vim-internal way to do this ? Keep hacking! mcc
Meta/Alt-confusion and no end
Hi, As VIM insists on getting Meta/Alt-keys as binary codes and not as a ESC-key-combination I tried first to revert the rest of my environment, which handles ESC-key-combinations well to what vim exspects. zsh and mrxvt have option to switch between both (would a solution for vim, too!). The Midnight Commander insists of getting ESC-key-combinations. So I reverted everything back to the previous state (using ESC-key-combinations) and inserted: let c='a' while c != 'z' exec set M-.toupper(c).=\e.c exec imap \e.c. M-.toupper(c). let c = nr2char(1+char2nr(c)) endw in the top of my ~/.vimrc. NOW F1 did the same as 1~ F2 does a 2~ F3 does a 3~ and so on (those are not mapped in any way and should do nothing therefore). F5++ acts normally. Oh, crazy world! I want to esc, too! :-/ Regardless what I am trying to do, I shoot into one of my feet, it seems. How can I solve the problem, without infecting the rest of my environment? Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Plain TeX support ?
From: Christian Ebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Plain TeX support ? Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:14:27 +0200 * Meino Christian Cramer on Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 06:54:29 +0200: Looking into :help \TeX\ does not that much information about the support of generating nice and find documents via plain TeX. Where can I get informations about what I can do/download/install/read to get a TeX-support a la AucTeX for Emacs ? Personally I only use LaTeX, but the following Vim-scripts might be worth looking into, even for plain TeX: LaTeX-Suite http://vim-latex.sf.net/ is the one I use. auctex.vim http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=162 a smaller one, based on the above. You might want to search for more at http://www.vim.org/search.php. c -- _B A U S T E L L E N_ lesen! --- http://www.blacktrash.org/baustellen.html Hi Christian, thanks a lot for the links !!! :) I will look at it. May be truth is a combination of them all ?! Will see... Have a nice evening! mcc
Re: Plain TeX support ?
From: Benji Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plain TeX support ?
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:41:31 -0400
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 04:37:16PM +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
[snip]
After I wrote my first TeX-text without Emacs/AucTeX spontaneous I
would say the following things are missing:
A Keystrokes to insert {\bf X }, {\it X \/} and such where X marks the
cursor position after doing the keystroke.
B Interface to run TeX and a viewer (configurable) on the file one is
editing which ensures, that the file on the HD is uptodate.
C Defintions to automatically map word to ``word'' and to remap
- in my case - german umlauts to the TeX-commandsequences. This
should be done for any non-ASCII-character. Most of the bugs I had
to remove while trying to tex my file were of such kind.
I have not proofen that this is not already implemented, I only read
the few lines of the help text for ft-tex-plugin. And didn't fiddle
with quickfix and such. May be quickfix can be misused for texing ?
Dont know.
Keep hacking and TeXing!
mcc
First, let me make some general remarks. With vim 7.0, we
introduced the file type plaintex. I made this the default, which
annoys some LaTeX users, so I am glad to know that there are still some
people out there who are using plain TeX (and editing with vim). I
maintain the ftplugin files for tex and plaintex, so I could add some
features there; but I try to be conservative, and follow the principle
of least surprise. So I prefer not to add too many key mappings to the
default ftplugin files (even smart quotes, which would be a *pleasantC*
surprise for most users).
A. What keys do you suggest for entering {\bf X } and {\it X \/}, and
do you really want a space after the X (cursor)? Perhaps using the
control or meta (alt) key? (I hope no one flames me for suggesting that
meta and alt are the same thing, when I really know better!) Do you
want a marker added so that you can jump out of the braces and continue
input? Presumably, whatever key you use to do {\bf X} in Insert mode
should also apply in Visual mode to insert {\bf before the Visual
selection and append } after it.
B. Another reply pointed out how to go in the other direction: from a
viewer (such as Yap) to the tex file. Of course, that depends on the
viewer. Note that you can start vim (not gvim) with the --servername
TEX option, provided that vim is compiled with the +clientserver option.
(This may not be the default if vim is compiled without GUI support.
Check the output of
:version
to see if is is there.)
It is certainly possible to compile using the quickfix commands. I
think the compiler plugin was not updated when the plaintex file type
was introduced, so you may have to do something like
:let b:tex_flavor = 'plain'
:compiler tex
:make %
I will test this, and I may add something to the default
ftplugin/plaintex.vim to make it easier to use.
Calling a viewer from withing vim is not hard to arrange, but it
depends on what OS you are using and what viewer. I think that
latex-suite already does this; maybe I can steal something from there.
C. I wrote a TeXquotes() function years ago, and it has been
incorporated into latex-suite. I will stick this, and some of the other
things I mentioned, into an ftplugin file and post it to vim.org . I
think latex-suite also has something for translating umlauts into teX
sequences.
HTH --Benji Fisher
Hi Benji,
thanks a lot for your reply ! :)
Yes, they are still there...the people who believes 8bit
homecomputers are the best ones world ever has seen, that a terminal
only needs 40x24 characters, that icons are a waste of time for one
who still is able to read and that 1Mhz clock frequency is enough --
if one is /really/ able to program good and fast code...and who are
hacking plain TeX. LaTeX is for those, who do park there cars under
trees in the shadow, you know...
just kidding...nothing meant seriously...I only like the imagination
of computer nerds still knowing the task of every memory cell of the OS of
their computers (see Google: Mapping the ATARI)
ok, enough folklore, guys...hahahaha! :)))
A: No, it was a type by me: I dont want a after the X, only \it
needs a \/ after X. The marker-thingy would be nice! This would
be a better implementation as that of the original AucTeX! :)
The bracketing (correct English?...dont looks like that...but even
LEO.org does not know any valid translation of to put something into brackets
from german to English in one word. (germ. Klammerung)) of a visual
mark with the font setting commands is great! That is, what AucTeX
also provides -- and which I like very much! :)
B: The situation with the dvi viewer has been relaxed at least for
me: Kdvi understands to automagically reload a dvi file when it has
changed . So it does
Re: Plain TeX support ?
From: Benji Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Plain TeX support ? Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:16:00 -0400 On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 06:54:29AM +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, Looking into :help \TeX\ does not that much information about the support of generating nice and find documents via plain TeX. Where can I get informations about what I can do/download/install/read to get a TeX-support a la AucTeX for Emacs ? Keep hacking! mcc That is an odd looking use of :help . Perhaps you meant to try :helpgrep \TeX\ instead? Note that the tex file type is for LaTeX and plaintex is used for plain TeX. See :help ft-tex-plugin if your plain TeX files are given file type tex. (I am assuming you are using vim 7. Correct me if I am wrong!) The default ftplugin/plaintex.vim does a few things: it sets options so that \input files will be recognized for include-file searches (:help include-search) and comments are recognized as such. What are the three features you miss most from AucTeX? HTH --Benji Fisher Hi Benji ! Thanks a lot for your reply and pointing me to the right help. I will see, what the plugin does for me and will post again in case of missing a certain thing (AucTeX-related or not :) Have a nice Sunday! mcc
To be a keycode or not to be a keycode - that is the question!
Hi, VimTip 979 suggests to do the following mapping: nmap Space / nmap C-Space ? . I wanted to try that and wrote the sequence into my .vimrc. The first mapping works nice, but the second doesn nothing. I tried to figure out what happens (or what do not happen...) and used the Ctrl-k trick I learnd here. But it shows that the problem is some levels down. I used xkeycaps and it shows, that Ctrl-Space isn't recognized at all and Shift-Space does the same as Space. Before I shoot into my own feet and render my computer useless by screwing up the keyboard interface: 1.) Is it possible and sane to map S-Space and C-Space to something (and what ?) with xkeycaps ? 2.) Or is it a more general problem, that those combination of keys aren't recognized correctly ? Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance ! mcc
Re: To be a keycode or not to be a keycode - that is the question!
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To be a keycode or not to be a keycode - that is the question! Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:20:44 +0300 On 9/24/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot Hi, VimTip 979 suggests to do the following mapping: nmap Space / nmap C-Space ? . I wanted to try that and wrote the sequence into my .vimrc. The first mapping works nice, but the second doesn nothing. I tried to figure out what happens (or what do not happen...) and used the Ctrl-k trick I learnd here. But it shows that the problem is some levels down. I used xkeycaps and it shows, that Ctrl-Space isn't recognized at all and Shift-Space does the same as Space. Before I shoot into my own feet and render my computer useless by screwing up the keyboard interface: 1.) Is it possible and sane to map S-Space and C-Space to something (and what ?) with xkeycaps ? Try 'man xmodmap'. The following actions can/will lead to the solution: 1) Choose new unique escap-sequence, unused by other control keys; for example Esc)1 (I don't really know if this is unique...) 2) Tell xmodmap to send this key sequence for Ctrl-Space 3) In vim, map Esc)1 to the rhs of your choice. Repeat for Shift-space. Note that in this scenario, vim doesn't really know that Esc)1 is Ctrl-Space, but nevertheless the whose conspiracy works. Hope it helps Yakov ignorecase Lerner Hi Yakov, Thank you for your reply! :) There is only one thing remaining mysterious: Why do I have to hack my keyboard settings, when others (at least the author of the vimtip 979) can simply use that? Is this a difference between Unix/Windows/MacOSX or is it just my flavour of keyboard settings? Keep hacking! mcc Meino I have CTRL-Space now! Cramer :)
Re: Plain TeX support ?
From: Benji Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plain TeX support ?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:16:00 -0400
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 06:54:29AM +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
Hi,
Looking into
:help \TeX\
does not that much information about the support of generating nice
and find documents via plain TeX.
Where can I get informations about what I can
do/download/install/read to get a TeX-support a la AucTeX for Emacs ?
Keep hacking!
mcc
That is an odd looking use of :help . Perhaps you meant to try
:helpgrep \TeX\
instead?
Note that the tex file type is for LaTeX and plaintex is used for
plain TeX. See
:help ft-tex-plugin
if your plain TeX files are given file type tex. (I am assuming you are
using vim 7. Correct me if I am wrong!)
The default ftplugin/plaintex.vim does a few things: it sets
options so that \input files will be recognized for include-file
searches (:help include-search) and comments are recognized as such.
What are the three features you miss most from AucTeX?
HTH --Benji Fisher
After I wrote my first TeX-text without Emacs/AucTeX spontaneous I
would say the following things are missing:
A Keystrokes to insert {\bf X }, {\it X \/} and such where X marks the
cursor position after doing the keystroke.
B Interface to run TeX and a viewer (configurable) on the file one is
editing which ensures, that the file on the HD is uptodate.
C Defintions to automatically map word to ``word'' and to remap
- in my case - german umlauts to the TeX-commandsequences. This
should be done for any non-ASCII-character. Most of the bugs I had
to remove while trying to tex my file were of such kind.
I have not proofen that this is not already implemented, I only read
the few lines of the help text for ft-tex-plugin. And didn't fiddle
with quickfix and such. May be quickfix can be misused for texing ?
Dont know.
Keep hacking and TeXing!
mcc
Re: Plain TeX support ?
From: Yongwei Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plain TeX support ?
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:42:21 +0800
On 9/24/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After I wrote my first TeX-text without Emacs/AucTeX spontaneous I
would say the following things are missing:
A Keystrokes to insert {\bf X }, {\it X \/} and such where X marks the
cursor position after doing the keystroke.
It is easily done with mappings, e.g. (define CTRL-I in insert mode):
:imap C-I {\it \/}leftleftleftleft
You can add such lines to your ftplugin\plaintex.vim.
B Interface to run TeX and a viewer (configurable) on the file one is
editing which ensures, that the file on the HD is uptodate.
Vim is not an IDE. However, I have put these lines in
C:\localtexmf\miktex\config\miktex.ini:
[TeX]
Editor=C:\Program Files\Vim\vim70\gvim.exe --servername tex
--remote-silent +%l %f
And have done similar with Yap. So when an error occurs, I just type
`e' to edit in the place where things went wrong; and double-click on
a line in the DVI viewer to go to the source.
Be sure to start editing with `gvim --servername tex xyz.tex' to
ensure only one GVIM is started to edit the TeX file, if you intent to
open the file before launching Tex or the DVI viewer.
C Defintions to automatically map word to ``word'' and to remap
- in my case - german umlauts to the TeX-commandsequences. This
should be done for any non-ASCII-character. Most of the bugs I had
to remove while trying to tex my file were of such kind.
I am not sure about this one. So leave it to others.
I have not proofen that this is not already implemented, I only read
the few lines of the help text for ft-tex-plugin. And didn't fiddle
with quickfix and such. May be quickfix can be misused for texing ?
Dont know.
Keep hacking and TeXing!
mcc
Best regards,
Yongwei
--
Wu Yongwei
URL: http://wyw.dcweb.cn/
Hi Yongwei,
thank you for your reply and suggestions. One thing I forget to
mention is, that I only use vim (console) and Linux.
Keep hacking !
mcc
What is the key nameing of...
Hi, I often have the problem to guess, how a certain keysequence is named by the syntax of the vim scripting language. Recently I tried to map Control-CursorUp but it simply does not work for me. Is there any function/script/hack/trick/* like Ctrl-v is for the raw keysequence to display the key thingy? Something like (example!) : :showkeyCR will display :press key then one presses the key in question (for example Alt plus F11...) and then it displays: :C-F11 ... (an example only just to get around my limitied power of explanation... ;O) Keep hacking! mcc
Re: glued Cursor trick anyone ?
From: Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glued Cursor trick anyone ?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:33:43 -0500
If it is not too much effort to you I would like to know these
bad hacks -- just to learn a little more about hacking vim
and not necessaryly (ough, this world looks also very
hackish...german English) to make them the base of all
my later VIMy programming.
Generally I think one can learn a lot about using technique in
ways, no one else has thought about before. ;O)
Generally, folks would get fired for writing stunts like the
following, so read with caution...
Archived here:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.vim/38930
you'll find these two lines from my post:
nnoremap / :exec('cnoremap '.'cr '.'cr:exec(cunmap
.cr)'.'cr:call HighlightCurrentSearch()'.'cr')cr/
nnoremap ? :exec('cnoremap '.'cr '.'cr:exec(cunmap
.cr)'.'cr:call HighlightCurrentSearch()'.'cr')cr?
They are hideous monstrosities, that don't quite do all that I
described in my previous post. The basic gist is that you want to
remap the / and ? keys so that when you press them, you
create a cnoremap mapping that maps the cr (and, unimplemented
in this example, also esc and c-c) to perform the action
cunmap the cr mapping, and then do my custom action.
In this case, the custom action was to call the
HighlightCurrentSearch() function defined in the post, as desired
by the OP. In your case, you'd want to tweak it to do a zz
instead.
Caveat Vimtor...if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. If it
kicks your dog, drinks your beer, steals your girlfriend, wrecks
your pickup-truck, or any other tragedy found in country-music, I
take no responsibility...it's an ugly hack. YMMV.
-tim
Hi Tim,
thanks a lot for the secrets ! :)))
I really enjoyed reading your mail -- not only for the vimy stuff but
also for the words as such... :O)
Keep hacking !
^
!
mcc
Re: What is the key nameing of...
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is the key nameing of... Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:02:19 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I often have the problem to guess, how a certain keysequence is named by the syntax of the vim scripting language. Recently I tried to map Control-CursorUp but it simply does not work for me. Is there any function/script/hack/trick/* like Ctrl-v is for the raw keysequence to display the key thingy? Something like (example!) : :showkeyCR will display :press key then one presses the key in question (for example Alt plus F11...) and then it displays: :C-F11 ... (an example only just to get around my limitied power of explanation... ;O) Keep hacking! mcc Ctrl + CursorUp is C-Up in a mapping Alt + F11 is M-F11 or A-F11 In the GUI but not in console Vim, you can find the value by hitting the key preceded by Ctrl-V (or Ctrl-Q if you use Ctrl-V to paste) in either Insert/Replace or Command-line modes In the GUI and also in console Vim, you can find the value by hitting the special key or key combo preceded by Ctrl-K in either Insert/Replace or Command-line modes. I don't know whether this second method also applies in tiny or small versions of Vim (which lack the +digraphs feature); but these versions also lack expression evaluation, so I personally give them a wide berth. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, thanks for your explanations ! :) Ctrl-v gives me the raw values (that is the binary representation) of the keycodes. But I wanted the way of name those keysequences when using in vim scripts displayed. Keep hacking! mcc
Re: What is the key nameing of...
From: Yegappan Lakshmanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is the key nameing of... Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:23:22 -0700 Hello, On 9/21/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is the key nameing of... Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:02:19 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I often have the problem to guess, how a certain keysequence is named by the syntax of the vim scripting language. Recently I tried to map Control-CursorUp but it simply does not work for me. Is there any function/script/hack/trick/* like Ctrl-v is for the raw keysequence to display the key thingy? Something like (example!) : :showkeyCR will display :press key then one presses the key in question (for example Alt plus F11...) and then it displays: :C-F11 ... (an example only just to get around my limitied power of explanation... ;O) Ctrl + CursorUp is C-Up in a mapping Alt + F11 is M-F11 or A-F11 In the GUI but not in console Vim, you can find the value by hitting the key preceded by Ctrl-V (or Ctrl-Q if you use Ctrl-V to paste) in either Insert/Replace or Command-line modes In the GUI and also in console Vim, you can find the value by hitting the special key or key combo preceded by Ctrl-K in either Insert/Replace or Command-line modes. I don't know whether this second method also applies in tiny or small versions of Vim (which lack the +digraphs feature); but these versions also lack expression evaluation, so I personally give them a wide berth. thanks for your explanations ! :) Ctrl-v gives me the raw values (that is the binary representation) of the keycodes. But I wanted the way of name those keysequences when using in vim scripts displayed. As explained under :help i_CTRL-K, you can get the keycodes for special keys by pressing CTRL-K followed by the key in insert mode. - Yegappan Hi Yegappan ! Exactly what I have searched for! Thanks a lot! Keep hacking! mcc
The wonders of keymaping...
Hi, I wanted to remap Ctrl-e to Ctrl-Up and Ctrl-y to Ctrl-Down . In my .vimrc I wrote nnoremap C-e C-Up nnoremap C-y C-Down Interesting...I could display the Ctrl-cursorkeys with i_Ctrl-K, but this didn't work for Ctrl-e/Ctrl-y and the whole remapping also does not work. C-Up and C-down performs like Up and Down alone. These keys are not catched by X/the terminal/windowmanager since they will be recognized by Emacs. What did I wrong this time again ? Keep hacking! mcc (currently remapping try to error... ;)
Re: The wonders of keymaping...
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The wonders of keymaping... Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:46:37 +0300 On 9/21/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanted to remap Ctrl-e to Ctrl-Up and Ctrl-y to Ctrl-Down . In my .vimrc I wrote nnoremap C-e C-Up nnoremap C-y C-Down Hmmm ... did you possibly want[ed] to do: nnoremap C-Up C-e nnoremap C-Down C-y ? Yakov Ough...I get some headache now...wait... I _thought_ it would work like *map old code new code so you can use new code to perform the functionality of old code. And when I look at the help pages of map I think (...) this is how it works. Or in other words: I want the functionality of CTRL-e performed when pressing CTRL-UP. But it is late in the evening, I did a lot of programming today and I would wish the white mice on my keyboard would go away, when the big white rabbit will appear in the door... No, I am not using drugs... ;) I *hate* drugs. Keep hacking! mcc (sleepy)
Re: The wonders of keymaping...
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The wonders of keymaping... Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:12:56 +0300 On 9/21/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The wonders of keymaping... Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:46:37 +0300 On 9/21/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanted to remap Ctrl-e to Ctrl-Up and Ctrl-y to Ctrl-Down . In my .vimrc I wrote nnoremap C-e C-Up nnoremap C-y C-Down Hmmm ... did you possibly want[ed] to do: nnoremap C-Up C-e nnoremap C-Down C-y ? Yakov Ough...I get some headache now...wait... I _thought_ it would work like *map old code new code 'map X Y' is best explained likethis: When you press keys X, perform Y (that is, act as if user typed Y). Yakov ok...now it works...it is __really__ too late for me now It seems I am starting to confuse my left hand with my right feet... ;) I will shutdown now...see/mail you tomorrow ... Good night! And thanks for all help! mcc
Re: glued Cursor trick anyone ?
From: Gene Kwiecinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: glued Cursor trick anyone ? Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:25:42 -0400 Hi Vim-O-Logics ! :) thank you very much for all your replies! Again I see, that I have to learn more and better English to be able to explain more exactly what I want to say -- I have to think better about it. (what follows is never meant as critism!!!...only as an additional explanation!) My initial wish was to seperate all three tricks. An additional keysequence as a command to perform one of the tricks was wanted. So nzz and Nzz is more what I want than to solder the cursor onto the screen forever and ever with set scrolloff=1000. Ah, by the way: The initial /pattern still jumps to a place whereever it wants to. Is there also a neat trick to zz the / (Are you talking vim?, hihihihi ). Also CTRL-D/CTRL-U/CTRL-E/CTRL-Y are exactly what I needed for trick 3! I will try the script (thank you for attaching it, Yakov!!!) later. Have a nice evening (or whatever time is where you are :) ! mcc
glued Cursor trick anyone ?
Hi, I would like to accomplish three tricks: 1.) Suppose you have a source code and have started an new search task recently. With n you are jumping from match to match. Sometimes the next match is right on the last line currently visible. Pressing n let the cursor jump there. The screen is not scrolled, cause the target is still on the screen -- but the context is not. Is it possible to always scroll the screen that way, that pressing n wll always take you to the middle of the screen (or in other words: The cursor is glued to the middle of the screen and the text jumps under the cursor)? 2.) This is similiar: I want to scroll through text and keep the cursor glued to a certain position on the screen. 3.) Last glued cursor thingy: I want to glue the cursor on the text and using up and down will not move the cursor on the text but the text on the screen. I am sure these are little steps for a vim guru to accomplish but would be big steps for me. :) Thank you very much for any hint and/or help in advance ! Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Hiding lines
From: Hari Krishna Dara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hiding lines Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:05:38 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 at 7:17pm, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hiding lines Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:15:13 -0500 One could hide lines matching or !matching a certain pattern. Any further edit actions were only executed with the visible lines as target. Regardless what you were doing -- only the visible lines were affected. You had to give the unhide command explicitely to return to full text mode. There is a script snipped in the VimTips (#77) which does something like this, but the hidden lines are not protected or really invisible until unhide... Is there a way to mimic this feature with vim in any way ? Well, while it sounds like you may have already uncovered folding (which will collapse/hide a bunch of lines into one), but as you describe, it doesn't really protect those lines. However, there are some things you can do do make them a little more protected. If you're doing :s commands (or other Ex commands), you can have them operate only over things that aren't currently folded away by modifying your Ex statement to be: :foldd s/foo/bar/g You can read all about folding at :help fold.txt wherein you'll find :help folddoopen :help folddoclosed which allow you to perform operations over sections of the file that are/aren't folded. You don't really describe what protected means...so perhaps if there are particular things that stymie you, you can mention them and perhaps a solution can be found for the particular problems. If you just want to extract certain lines, you can make use of a :g command, something like :let @a='' :g/pattern/y A will gather all the lines matching pattern into the a register. This can be dumped in another buffer if needed. Or, I often find myself doing something like :g/pattern/# which will show me all the line numbers in the current file for lines matching pattern (after which I can just jump to that line by typing the line-number followed by G). Just a couple ideas... -tim Hi Tim, thank you for your explanations ! :O) With protected I mean the effect of doing as follows (but I mean the result only ... not the way which leads to it...) There is a text with some lines containing the word gold. Those lines should never be changed/edited. Therefore I will do a :g/gold/d Then I will do all commands, mistakes or whatever, which I will do -- all gold lines will not be affected. After all that I will do a undo delete of all lines containing 'gold' -- and that's it. In reality an undo delete all lines containing /pattern/ is not pratical, impossible, irritationg or whatelse. This is only as an example for being protected. An Unix chmod a-w on all lines matching /pattern/ cames a little closer to it -- unless you are root, hehehehe But in the last example those lines were not hidden. Examples are only ...examples, therefore... Hope my german English is english enough... ;) Keep hacking! mcc Tim's :foldd and :foldo suggestions are actually very good in deed (didn't know about them), especially with the help of tools to create folds and operate commands on them. I would like to suggest you take a look at my foldutil.vim (http://www.vim.org/script.php?script_id=158). The benefit for you is that you can execute a single command to create folds that include/exclude all the lines that are matching or not-matching your specified pattern. You can then use :foldo or :foldd commands to issue commands on them. Also configure the 'foldopen' setting such that the folds will not be automatically opened by Vim when you move cursor around. I think, setting an empty value will help keep them closed as much as possible. You might also be interested in my multiselect.vim plugin (http://www.vim.org/script.php?script_id=953). It provides commands that are similar in nature to :foldo and :foldd to restrict normal mode and ex mode commands to selected regions. You can also use mouse to create selections. -- HTH, Hari __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Hi, I have downloaded your script and genutils but got some problems... It displays: Folds created: 0 line 75: E117: Unknown function: RestoreHardPosition There is another message, which appears for a very short time -- too short for me to read it. What did I wrong here ? Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Hiding lines
From: Hari Krishna Dara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hiding lines Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 at 8:01pm, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Tim's :foldd and :foldo suggestions are actually very good in deed (didn't know about them), especially with the help of tools to create folds and operate commands on them. I would like to suggest you take a look at my foldutil.vim (http://www.vim.org/script.php?script_id=158). The benefit for you is that you can execute a single command to create folds that include/exclude all the lines that are matching or not-matching your specified pattern. You can then use :foldo or :foldd commands to issue commands on them. Also configure the 'foldopen' setting such that the folds will not be automatically opened by Vim when you move cursor around. I think, setting an empty value will help keep them closed as much as possible. You might also be interested in my multiselect.vim plugin (http://www.vim.org/script.php?script_id=953). It provides commands that are similar in nature to :foldo and :foldd to restrict normal mode and ex mode commands to selected regions. You can also use mouse to create selections. Hi, I have downloaded your script and genutils but got some problems... It displays: Folds created: 0 line 75: E117: Unknown function: RestoreHardPosition There is another message, which appears for a very short time -- too short for me to read it. What did I wrong here ? Keep hacking! mcc Looks like I haven't uploaded the one which uses the autoload version of genutils yet. I will update it soon, but meanwhile please try the below version: http://haridara.googlepages.com/foldutil.vim -- Thanks, Hari __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Hi Hari ! thanks a lot for your reply! :) I installed the foldutils.vim from the above link. But this one complains foldutil: You need a newer version of multvals.vim plugin -- but I have already installed the newest version available. How can I help to solve the problem? Have a nice day! :) Meino
Re: Hiding lines
Hi, thank you *very* much that many input !!! :) I havent understood all the stuff right now - I am still catched in the read-install-test/check-reread cycle : As soon as the mist has lifted for me, I will post again. :O) Keep hacking! mcc
converted ?
Hi, sometimes when saveing an original unix file (for example $HOME/.zshrc) vim informs me about that the file is being [converted]. A :set ff shows me, that it is really a unix-file and the converted-message appears every time when it is saved once again. I am curious to know, what this [converted] means :help converted does not gave anything. And since I dont know what it means beside that something is [converted] I dont know for what to search additionally. Dont let me die un[converted] ! :) Thanks a lot in advance even for any un[converted] hint ! :)) Keep hacking! mcc
Re: converted ?
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: converted ?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 01:16:30 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
Hi,
sometimes when saveing an original unix file (for example
$HOME/.zshrc) vim informs me about that the file is being
[converted].
A
:set ff
shows me, that it is really a unix-file and the converted-message
appears every time when it is saved once again.
I am curious to know, what this [converted] means
:help converted
does not gave anything. And since I dont know what it means beside
that something is [converted] I dont know for what to search additionally.
Dont let me die un[converted] ! :)
Thanks a lot in advance even for any un[converted] hint ! :))
Keep hacking!
mcc
The message [converted] appears when a successful conversion happend
between the 'fileencoding' (the representation of the data on disk) and
the 'encoding' (the representation of the data in memory). Such
conversion may happen in one direction when reading and in the opposite
direction when writing.
Since 'encoding' is a global option, allowing it to be different than
'fileencoding' makes it possible to edit in parallel (e.g. in split
windows) files which do not use the same character set. It also allows
editing files in any charset while leaving 'encoding' at UTF-8 (though
if UTF-8 is not your locale encoding there are some precautions to
take when setting it). Conversion at read/write time is possible as long
as only characters common to both source and destination encodings
are used, and as Vim knows how to convert. Some conversions (e.g.
between any of Latin1, UTF-8, UTF-16 and UTF-32) can be done internally;
some others require the iconv function, which can be either absent,
compiled-in and linked statically (the usual Unix practice) or linked
dynamically (the usual Windows practice). Check your :version listing
for +iconv or +iconv/dyn; or use :echo has ('iconv') which answers
zero for FALSE (feature not present) or nonzero (normally 1) for TRUE
(feature present). If you have +iconv/dyn but has(iconv) returns 0
then you lack the iconv.dll library in your $PATH.
When Vim says [converted] it means conversion was successful. If it says
[NOT converted] you should start asking yourself questions. (It won't
say anything when 'encoding' and 'fileencoding' are the same, including
when the latter, being empty, defaults to the former.)
See
:help read-messages
:help 'encoding'
:help 'fileencoding'
:help 'fileencodings'
:help ++opt
:help mbyte-encoding
:help +iconv
:help iconv()
:help /dyn
Best regards,
Tony.
Hi Tony,
***thanks a lot*** for your very interesting explanations!!!
Have a nice weekend!
mcc
PS: by the way...I am using Linux only ;)
Re: Two problems
From: Pete Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Two problems
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:19:22 +1000
Hi Pete !
Thank you for disassembling the hex into mnemonics! :O)
One question remains in my head:
if /.\{73,}/ find all lines, for what is the g for?
I mean...more than finding the whole line in the whole line make
no sense to me (and obviously only to me ;) ...
Vim - the text assemble ;)))
Keep hacking!
mcc
On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 04:57:24 +0200, Meino Christian Cramer sent:
Hi Pete!
Hi!
thank you very much for this line of code -- works like a
charme!
Delighted to hear it.
The only bad thing is: I dont understand completly, how it
works
He he... I'm glad that someone's taken this apart :-)
1,$for the beginning of the text til its end do
And there's a 'g'...
/.\{73,}/ find all lines longer than 72 chars and for each do
Yup.
normal ??? go into normal mode ???
v ? visual mode (and for what is the good for?)
normalv}gq isn't an editor command, so you have to split 'normal'
and 'v'. There may be a better way of doing this.
}gq only white noise for mea C-programme I
would say, that there is on } too many in the whole expression
but simultaneously I know, that I am wrong.???
} is a motion: it moves one paragraph forward.
See :help }
gq formats the highlighted lines.
See :he gq
There are other ways of solving this problem, I am sure, but I
like the way this works because it leaves paragraphs alone that
are shorter then 73 characters wide, rather than expanding them.
Cheers;
--paj
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Re: Two problems
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Two problems
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:54:02 +0200
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
From: Pete Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Two problems
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:19:22 +1000
Hi Pete !
Thank you for disassembling the hex into mnemonics! :O)
One question remains in my head:
if /.\{73,}/ find all lines, for what is the g for?
I mean...more than finding the whole line in the whole line make
no sense to me (and obviously only to me ;) ...
Vim - the text assemble ;)))
Keep hacking!
mcc
/.\{73,}/ by itself would just find the _next_ line longer than 72,
possibly wrapping to the beginning if it wasn't found after the cursor.
g/pattern/excommand is the :g[lobal] command (see :help :g): it
executes :excommand on all lines matching /pattern/. The name of the
grep program comes from the Vi command :g/re/p where re means
regular expression (i.e. pattern) and p means :p[rint].
Best regards,
Tony.
...and then I was struck by (en-)lightning ! WOOOSH!
g/Thanks a lot, Tony! :)
Have a nive weekend !
mcc
Re: Two problems
From: Pete Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Two problems
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:19:22 +1000
snip
...
snip
Hi Pete,
...please check this with your genious vimly mind... :) -- BIG smiley!
Your initial command set was:
1,$g/.\{73,}/normal v}gq
Which does -- if I understand correctly in the meantime -- find any
more-than-72chars-long line and reformats it.
But if there is a text like this:
Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very
Very long line
fun! Thisscript()
does nothing special
endfunction
become this:
Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very
Very Very Very long line fun! Thisscript() does nothing special
endfunction
(I am still writing my mail with emacs and mew, since I haven't found
an equal replacement for that, so reformatting is not truely done
with your comamnd but with emacs Alt-Q command...)
due to the final } in the command set -- it jumps behind the
endfunction in this case.
But I only want to reformat the longish line. The result should be
this:
Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very
Very Very Very long line
fun! Thisscript()
does nothing special
endfunction
Would it help to change the command set to
1,$g/.\{73,}/normal v$gq
Have a nice weekend !
mcc
(Re.)mapping of the so called Meta- (Alt-) keys
Hi, I tried to remap several Alt-/Meta- key sequences to other and to commands. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. I see no logic behind this behaviour. It seems, that I miss certain informations hot to do this the right way. My terminal emits Meta- and Alt- keysequences in binary format and not with the ESC- prefix now (mrxvt called with the -m8 option). This breaks the Midnight commander under Linux. It seems that there isn't sometimes the choice to live but the choice, what way of death is wanted...sigh. Is there something special to do or to keep attention to when trying to remap those keys ? Thanks a lot in advance for any help ! Have a nice weekend! mcc
Re: (Re.)mapping of the so called Meta- (Alt-) keys
From: A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (Re.)mapping of the so called Meta- (Alt-) keys Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 07:47:04 +0200 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I tried to remap several Alt-/Meta- key sequences to other and to commands. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. I see no logic behind this behaviour. It seems, that I miss certain informations hot to do this the right way. My terminal emits Meta- and Alt- keysequences in binary format and not with the ESC- prefix now (mrxvt called with the -m8 option). This breaks the Midnight commander under Linux. It seems that there isn't sometimes the choice to live but the choice, what way of death is wanted...sigh. Is there something special to do or to keep attention to when trying to remap those keys ? Thanks a lot in advance for any help ! Have a nice weekend! mcc Alt + printable character combinations sometimes collides with accented letters or other upper-ASCII characters Alt + special key is sometimes preempted by the OS or by the window manager (e.g., Alt + Tab used on many systems to select a program/window) In my experience the most portable keys for mapping in (g)vim are F2-F9, F11-F12 and Shift-F1 to Shift-F12. Best regards, Tony. Hi Tony, thank you for your reply ! :) I will review my remap attempts for those combinations. Have a nice weekend! mcc
Re: Two problems
From: Pete Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Two problems
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:46:42 +1000
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 04:45:12 +0200, Meino Christian Cramer sent:
2.) Currently I am reading the ascii version of the vimtips
file. One thing I would like to change physically (that means:
The file should be changed that way, not only the visual
representation...) are the super long lines into 72 chars ones.
My attempt to do this was
gqG
which reformats /everything/ (even the embedded scripts). As
long as it was floating text, the result was ok, but the
scripts were obfuscated.
I would like to apply the gq-command only to lines longer than
72 chars -- so the scripts were automagically skipped (as I
hope...).
How can I accomplish this ?
Here's my attempt:
For all lines longer than 72 characters, reformat the
paragraph from that line..
1,$g/.\{73,}/normal v}gq
Hope this helps;
--paj
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Hi Pete!
thank you very much for this line of code -- works like a charme!
The only bad thing is: I dont understand completly, how it
works
This far I got:
1,$for the beginning of the text til its end do
/.\{73,}/ find all lines longer than 72 chars and for each do
normal ??? go into normal mode ???
v ? visual mode (and for what is the good for?)
}gq only white noise for mea C-programme I would
say, that there is on } too many in the whole expression
but simultaneously I know, that I am wrong.???
Keep hacking!
mcc
Two problems
Hi, I have two problems: 1.) Splitting line into two from normal mode. My current concept (hu...great word...;) to split a line into two is (starting and ending in normal mode, which is wanted): i Ctrl-j esc Are there any shorter ways to split a line, may be without the detour around insert mode ? 2.) Currently I am reading the ascii version of the vimtips file. One thing I would like to change physically (that means: The file should be changed that way, not only the visual representation...) are the super long lines into 72 chars ones. My attempt to do this was gqG which reformats /everything/ (even the embedded scripts). As long as it was floating text, the result was ok, but the scripts were obfuscated. I would like to apply the gq-command only to lines longer than 72 chars -- so the scripts were automagically skipped (as I hope...). How can I accomplish this ? As so often, thank you very much for your help in advance ! Keep hacking! mcc
Re: Two problems
From: Peter Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Two problems Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:10:43 +1000 (EST) Hello, --- Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.) Splitting line into two from normal mode. My current concept (hu...great word...;) to split a line into two is (starting and ending in normal mode, which is wanted): i Ctrl-j esc Are there any shorter ways to split a line, may be without the detour around insert mode ? I found the following mapping helpful: nmap TAB i#ESCr Basically that lets you hit TAB in normal mode and insert a single character. With that mapping in place, you could use TABENTER to insert a linebreak quickly. regards, Peter Oh, real nice! Very handy! It solves another problem on-the-fly even before I can post it. Do you have more of these multi-solver tips for me, Peter ??? :))) Thanks a lot! :O) mcc
OT(?): AES/Serpent/Twofish/Blowfish encryption with vim ?
Hi, I want to encrypt text from within vim via one of the encryption algorithms mentioned above as easy as it is done via vimcrypt. Does anyone now an application which I can use as filter and which can be incorporated in vim ? Thank you very much in advanbce for any help! mcc
Re: OT(?): AES/Serpent/Twofish/Blowfish encryption with vim ?
From: Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT(?): AES/Serpent/Twofish/Blowfish encryption with vim ? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:58:49 +0300 On 9/12/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to encrypt text from within vim via one of the encryption algorithms mentioned above as easy as it is done via vimcrypt. Does anyone now an application which I can use as filter and which can be incorporated in vim ? openssl Yakov Normally I should answer: zb7oas9#ääjkdsß0 __:90w but better to decrypt it: :) thanks a lot, Yakov! :O) Keep hacking! mcc
