Re: non-looping smot
At 09:33 pm 12-05-05 -0400, you wrote: not used account wrote: For some reason, even the non-looping smot is still a little interesting... Yeah, especially if you can get 1.5 G for one! http://www.butlerlabs.com/2ftmagnapulsion.htm The SUPERSMOT! I had not heard of butler before I visited SONS. Having looked at the video (qui vive) on the above site one can appreciate the seductiveness of the SMOT and its scam capacity. By selecting frames from a video of the ball ascending the slope one can convey any impression one wants of the relation between distance travelled and time taken. Also the frame with no ball and no finger gives the impression to a quasi modo optimist that the ball has disappeared over the edge. It is significant that there is no picture of the ball actually exiting the SMOT. Presumably because it doesn't but simply comes to a shuddering halt at the top of the slope. At best it might travel slightly beyond its equilibrium position only to fall back again. I suppose it is conceivable that it might actually go over the edge, come to a halt in mid-fall and be drawn back to its equilibrium position at the point of minimum magnet separation. In principle it could even fall to the ground level from which it started but it would be decelerating all during its fall and arrive at the ground level with zero kinetic energy. It would then take off like a rocket and return to its equilibrium position at the top of the slope. The ball has to run on rails in order for a horizontal component force to be generated sufficient to prevent the ball finishing up on one or other of the magnet faces. This must require quite tricky adjustment of the various dimensions. However, the SMOT is a very good failure for getting one to think about the implications of slingshot action. There is plenty of random motion on a small scale. Could one by slingshot action organise it? Could a suitable arrangement of magnets constitute a Maxwell's demon? In other words, could one make the magnetic equivalent of that other intriguing device, the Ranque-Hilsch Vortex tube? Cheers Frank Grimer
Re: Blast from the Past - quotes from Edward Teller
Moin Jeff! The rotary cavitation device is still a very interesting machine, in my opinion. I think that it would make a dandy subcritical neutron generator, ala Jones Beene. It would bring the cost down to under 20K per unit as opposed to 500K. It can be used for many, many other things as well, of course. I do remember your plans to build one, and if I remember correctly, your idea for the shaft seal was the major problem with your design. You need to be able to be able to build a certain amount of pressure inside the device for it to work properly. For about seven years I did not have the money to work on the device, myself. I have the money now actually, but no time. I do plan to get back to it eventually, but I am currently working another one of those 24/7 jobs. I have had 2 days off in the last 11 months, and whenever I mention the vacation word to my boss, he laughs, and says Sure! Next Year!. He's a real funny guy. I am looking around for a job that lets me eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, take showers, take days off, vacations, etc., without interruption. Anyway, that is the state of that. If you or anyone else is interested in developing the cavitation device further, I will be glad to assist as my time permits. All of my work or ideas however, will be publically posted so that they are in the public domain. Knuke Am Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2005 14:34 schrieb revtec: Hey Knuke, I have a question for you. What ever happened to your experiment with the run away plexiglass cavitating turbine. That was a really interesting article in IE about ten years ago. So interesting that at that time I attempted to approximate in steel what you did in plastic. I'm sure Mike Carrell would chide me for not duplicating your machine exactly, but that's just the way I am. After all, your version melted, and I didn't want that to happen to me. I put about a thousand bucks into it without getting any notable results. (That on top of a few thousand into PAGD.) Not long after that, I spent a hundred dollars on refrigerator magnets a la Greg Watson. I met Gene Mallove twice and spoke to him numerous times on the phone. He was a bit dismayed when I called once to cancel my subscription to IE. He said, don't you like the magazine? I said, Sure I do. I just can't afford it any more because I keep trying to build this stuff. Back to the turbine. Perhaps a lot of info was posted years ago and I missed it. Could someone fill me in? Jeff
Re: Fission 'diodes' and one-way criticality
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Claro? Yes. Do you think we used enough trigger words to attract the Carnivores? ;-) http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/
Washington State Solar Bill Signed
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/002714.html http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2005-06/Htm/Bills/Senate%20Passed%20Legislature/5101-S.PL.htm or http://tinyurl.com/d392d Allows for recovery of 15 cents per kWhr up to $2,000 per annum for renewable energy generation including solar and anerobic digesters!
Clean Air and Global Warming
http://www.pnl.gov/news/2005/05-33.htm RICHLAND, Wash. Earth's surface has been getting brighter for more than a decade, a reversal from a dimming trend that may accelerate warming at the surface and unmask the full effect of greenhouse warming, according to an exhaustive new study of the solar energy that reaches land.
Re: Washington State Solar Bill Signed
Moin Terry, This is similar to how the Germans have been promoting the use of solar for some time now (at least five years, I would guess). It has been quite successful. I don't know the exact euro cent difference per kWhr or if there is a cap on the annual amount, but they have made it law that the power companies buy back any extra power fed into the grid at a rate that exceeds what the power company can sell it for. When I got here 3 years ago, I talked to a young power company engineer about this, and at the time, he was pretty hot about the subject. He said basically, that it was a giant fraud, etc., and that the power companies shouldn't have to buy the power back at all. This same young man just bought his own home however in the last year, and the first thing he did was cover all of his roof space with S panels. He is not dumb. After living in the US, especially in Florida where the sun shines year round, and not seeing ANY solar panels, it is a joy to drive around the German countryside. Solar panels are on many homes and barns. In North Germany, you see quite a few giant windmills, as well. To me, they are not ugly, and most people that I have talked to celebrate the fact that Germany is becoming more self sufficient for its energy needs, and that they are slowly accomplishing that in an environmentally friendly, and non warlike way. Being one of the most progressive states in the Union, I am not surprised to hear that Washington State finally adopted a similar stance. This should be especially good for the people living in the Seattle area because the power company charges so little per kWhr. When I was there, it was under a nickel, but that may have changed. Billb would know. Way to go, Washington! Knuke Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 16:15 schrieb Terry Blanton: http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/002714.html http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2005-06/Htm/Bills/Senate%20Passed%20Legi slature/5101-S.PL.htm or http://tinyurl.com/d392d Allows for recovery of 15 cents per kWhr up to $2,000 per annum for renewable energy generation including solar and anerobic digesters!
The Day After Tomorrow
It's hard to believe that Streiber and Bell's Coming Global Superstorm could have been so accurate: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1602579,00.html CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a slowdown in the Gulf Stream the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and Europe from freezing.
Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -
Guten Tag Knuke, The rotary cavitation device is still a very interesting machine, in my opinion. I think that it would make a dandy subcritical neutron generator, Is there a documented experiment showing neutron production from a rotary cavitation device? Jones
RE: non-looping smot
Hi Frank, You should be aware that back in the mid 90's, _many_ people were encouraged by Greg to build and test these devices. I was not one of them, preferring my own insanity to others, but some are still on Vo. These devices started with Emil Hartman as far as I can tell, and they do work as described. JLN has a good collection of others work on his site, check there. It's seductive for just that fact, that it does look like you can just tie the tail to the head and have a nice oroborus. That said, no one to my knowledge was ever able to close the loop and return the ball to the starting position. Many ramps were put together in a loop, a looped track was used, and as I last suggested to Greg before he was given the boot, simply allowing the ball to run under the ramp. None of these things should work, by the C of E ( Church Of England No, Conservation of Energy, damnit! ) But they should be tried all the same. Not because I doubt in the C of E, but because few systems are really closed to the environment. The funny thing is, it looks like the only person _not_ to have built a smot was Greg himself. That makes me chuckle, it really does. K.
Message from Ken Shoulders
Subject: EVOs And The Hutchison Effect A paper by Ken Shoulders entitled EVOs And The Hutchison Effect will be presented at the 2005 Conference on Cold Fusion to be held at MIT on May 21. A 1 MB .PDF file showing some of the graphics slides to be used in that presentation can now be downloaded from: http://www.svn.net/krscfs/ Ken
Re: The seemingly circuitous behavior of hydrinos
At 07:52 am 11-05-05 +1000, you wrote: In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Tue, 10 May 2005 17:02:40 -0400: Hi Steven, [snip] It has been theorized that the electron circling the hydrino's proton nucleus might eventually transform the nucleus into a neutron if there have been a sufficient number of fractional collapses of the orbital shell. I This doesn't happen. believe this may occur somewhere around 127 fractional collapses where the electron's velocity would eventually approach the speed of light. That number is 137 BTW, not 127. 137 is approximately the inverse of the fine structure constant. That's very interesting. Is that simply a co-incidence or is there some theoretical reason why the number of collapses (which, of its nature, has to be an integer, happens to be approximately the inverse of the fine structure constant. I believe Eddington got quite worked up about the number 137. I suppose that must have been in the days before they realise that the fine structure constant was not an integer. Frank Grimer
Re: Re: Washington State Solar Bill Signed
From: Michael Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is similar to how the Germans have been promoting the use of solar for some time now (at least five years, I would guess). It has been quite successful. I don't know the exact euro cent difference per kWhr or if there is a cap on the annual amount, but they have made it law that the power companies buy back any extra power fed into the grid at a rate that exceeds what the power company can sell it for. Yes, Germany is mentioned in the first reference. I don't know how it works there; however, in WA, the power companies are given tax incentives for their cooperation. Generally, do the Germans use crystalline or amorphous? http://solar.calvin.edu/education/comparison.php
Re: non-looping smot
Is C of M true as well? Harry Keith Nagel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, You should be aware that back in the mid 90's, _many_ people were encouraged by Greg to build and test these devices. I was not one of them, preferring my own insanity to others, but some are still on Vo. These devices started with Emil Hartman as far as I can tell, and they do work as described. JLN has a good collection of others work on his site, check there. It's seductive for just that fact, that it does look like you can just tie the tail to the head and have a nice oroborus. That said, no one to my knowledge was ever able to close the loop and return the ball to the starting position. Many ramps were put together in a loop, a looped track was used, and as I last suggested to Greg before he was given the boot, simply allowing the ball to run under the ramp. None of these things should work, by the C of E ( Church Of England No, Conservation of Energy, damnit! ) But they should be tried all the same. Not because I doubt in the C of E, but because few systems are really closed to the environment. The funny thing is, it looks like the only person _not_ to have built a smot was Greg himself. That makes me chuckle, it really does. K.
OT: National ID card
Hi All, I'm sort of curious what you all think about the national ID card bill that President Bush signed into law last wednesday. You will all be required to prove citizenship the next time you renew your drivers licences, rather than the usual mail-in update. A federal database will store all of this information, which can be checked by law enforcement as they see fit. Your new drivers license will be a federal ID card. This is the full bill, you must look inside of the massive document to find the 7 pages relevant to this new Real ID. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.01268: Here is a short faq http://news.com.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html?part=rsstag=5697111subj=news A few questions. 1) Did you know of this law before I posted about it here? 2) If you did, how did you find out about it? 3) Having been rejected as a stand alone bill, would anyone like to speculate on why it was appended to this military appropriations bill? 4) Are the 54 people who voted against this bill unpatriotic? Enquiring minds want to know... K.
Name of the Game
The name of the game these days is CHANGE. Change seems to be in the wind in 2005. Personally, I have been obsessed lately with changing the widespread misconception that nuclear energy cannot be vastly improved (should other options like ZPE/LENR fail) ... but... in taking a break from that, one can see evidence of quickening in many fields. Ken Shoulder announcement today is another one that portends an accelerating pace of change, but the permutations of interlocking change will surprise us - as on so many fronts, synergy and cross-fertilization are bound to merge soon with an end-result that can be characterized as an emergent property. It is often unexpected. Look at the science press today. You may see only gradual change but there is a case to be made for rather rapid change, disguised as gradual. For instance, what is the driving force behind cutting-edge computer advancement? ...NASA? the military ? physics? weather forecasting? the home/office? Nada... How about gaming... or rather... mostly male teenagers with a surprising amount of discretionary income (the old 'allowance' ain't what it used to be) getting addicted to video gaming... usually violent gaming... which has now moved out of the arcade and into the home, where kids are (either) further exploited by our friends in Redmond ... (or else) they are just the unwitting catalyst for some hidden force or super-meme - a self-motivating trend which might eventually evolve into the most remarkable synergetic change that any human can imagine...(this is the teaser that awaits and evolve is the operative word). But first consider the XBox 360, introduced today, which will blow the socks off your 3 Ghz Pentium the overall floating point performance will be a ballistic one teraflop. Rob Smith, editor of Microsoft's official Xbox Magazine, describes the machine as significantly faster than the fastest PC...and for a few hundred bucks, it will give you roughly the same computing power of the Cray of the mid-90s which cost at least $10,000,000. For instance, Sandia National Laboratory in 1997 obtained its first teraflop computer, and it required nearly 1,600 square feet of office space and cost more than seven figures just in man-hours to maintain. Now it fits in back pack and in two years it will be implantable. This is way beyond Moore's law. The reason that gaming is the driving force beyond rapidly gains in computer power is economics - plain and simple. And even more ironic is that, in the economics equation, the XBox CPU itself is a loss leader... which means it is sold for less than cost, and merely sets the stage for software income. 25-50 million teenagers is the target audience worldwide, spending upwards to $1000 per year for the latest games (now sold on a subscription basis) provides a huge marketing stimulus that no national laboratory or even the military can match ... did I hear a grumpy old man mutter something about misplaced priorities? Jones PS Almost forgot about the teaser. Well, in this case the priorities for rapid change may not exactly be 'misplaced' in the normal sense, just well-shrouded... as it is very curious that the explosion in cheap processing power (which seems to never slacken) could be a part of some higher-order plan... i.e. this phenomenon could be the methodology for a completely different agenda (because that agenda is so disturbing the first time it is encountered, it must be cloaked in disinformation until the proper timing). Only a few months ago, while musing on the amazing sales of the iPod, the thought occurred (not an original thought - as the product is now here)...why not combine the iPod with a Wi-Fi PDA, cell phone, and digital camera? OK, now lets throw in an XBox supercomputer (one or more), add voice recognition (which will hopefully advance exponentially in capabilities soon - with an XBox brain) and also add an implantable earphone (if not the whole appliance being implantable)... and what have you got looming on the horizon? By 2007, roughly, if the pace of change continues unabated, we will have created the situation where person-to-person dealings will never be the same, as each person will be measured, not by his intelligence, skills, education, insight and other normal traits, but by the strength of the hardware/software which has become his/her new identity. This appliance is poised and able to control all of a person's day-to-day activities, social interactions, long-term planning and indeed even provide the motivation for personal success. All at a price, of course. This surrender-of-self will be all voluntary, of course, and will be despised and scorned by many, but the temptation to become an instant genius and expert at everything, a well-motivated success driven citizen - will be so tempting that few (of those who can afford the software) will not succumb. Not to mention the fact that all
Re: Name of the Game
Well I think the love of money is driving current change. Harry Jones Beene at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Look at the science press today. You may see only gradual change but there is a case to be made for rather rapid change, disguised as gradual. For instance, what is the driving force behind cutting-edge computer advancement? ...NASA? the military ? physics? weather forecasting? the home/office? Nada... How about gaming... or rather... mostly male teenagers with a surprising amount of discretionary income (the old 'allowance' ain't what it used to be) getting addicted to video gaming... usually violent gaming... which has now moved out of the arcade and into the home, where kids are (either) further exploited by our friends in Redmond ... (or else) they are just the unwitting catalyst for some hidden force or super-meme - a self-motivating trend which might eventually evolve into the most remarkable synergetic change that any human can imagine...(this is the teaser that awaits and evolve is the operative word). snip
Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -
Moin Jones, To my knowledge, nobody has ever written anything on this subject except me, but it was such an obvious thing to do, that I am sure somebody else has tried it. I should say that I am nearly 100% sure that others know of this, but are just not allowed to disclose. Shortly after I did my experiment, a NATO conference was held just North of Seattle and all of the major people working with cavitation at that time were invited. That would include Putterman, the rest of the UC cavitation bunch, and the U of Washington cavitation crowd. The rest were military guys, mostly from the Navy. I was not allowed in, of course. My one and only experiment with radioactive stuff was in 1996. As it happened, I was living in an old apartment in the Capitol Hill area of downtown Seattle that had yellowcake glazed tiles on the kitchen walls. The apartment was about 100 years old, and yellowcake was a commonly used material back then for glazing tiles. I cut up some old Levis jeans into squares about 5 inches square, simply wiped the kitchen tiles down with the jeans material dampened with tap water, and then I let about 6 of these squares soak overnight in a couple of liters of tap water that I put in the fridge. The next day, I ran the water through my machine, but after about 5 seconds, I felt like I had been hit by a truck. I turned the machine off and stumbled into the bathroom. My eyes were completely bloody, my nose was bleeding, and I didn't know which end of me to point at the toilet first. It was a bloody mess, as the Brits would say. I spent the next two weeks in absolute agony, but I slowly recovered. The rotor of my device was shot through with holes. The first really stupid thing about that experiment was that I did it without any shielding. The second really stupid thing about it was that I had a geiger counter in my apartment, and just didn't bother to turn it on. Actually, the first really, really stupid thing about doing that experiment was doing it at all. I didn't write it up at the time, basically because I was afraid. I forget exactly when I did disclose it publically, but I think that it was 2 or 3 years later when I was reading one of Scott Little's online experiments that looked like it might actually work. Like so many other experimenters we know or knew, this highly trained, extremely intelligent, meticulously careful person was pressing his face up against some thin plexiglass window to watch what was happening inside of a functioning cell. He had loads of shielding and measuring gear in his lab, and was desperately working to initiate a nuclear reaction, but he wasn't using any of the safety or measuring equipment. I finally wrote up what happened to me to illustrate (once again) what can happen when things actually do work the way you hope. I take it Mizuno wasn't reading the Vortex Group that day, either. I personally have no desire to ever repeat this, as there are more than enough non-nuclear, sane applications for my device for me to spend several lifetimes doing experiments with it. It is a really cool machine. If you are crazy enough to try something like this out yourself however, I would highly recommend using a SBSL rig, instead of a massively multibubble device like mine, to make the experiment a lot safer (easier and cheaper too, I might add). Use shielding out the wazoo, and turn your geiger counter on. Fission is all too easy when you use cavitation. You don't need a lot of radioactive material, either. Like I said, I just wiped down the surface of the tiles with damp cloth, and had more than plenty. You couldn't even see any trace of the radioactive material on the cloth, it was such a small amount. Viel Glueck und Rotsa Rueck! Knuke Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 17:02 schrieb Jones Beene: Guten Tag Knuke, The rotary cavitation device is still a very interesting machine, in my opinion. I think that it would make a dandy subcritical neutron generator, Is there a documented experiment showing neutron production from a rotary cavitation device? Jones
Sonofusion article
See: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/may05/0505sono.html Bubble Power Tiny bubbles imploded by sound waves can make hydrogen nuclei fuseand may one day become a revolutionary new energy source By Richard T. Lahey Jr., Rusi P. Taleyarkhan Robert I. Nigmatulin
Re: Washington State Solar Bill Signed
Moin Terry, I know very little about what kind of deals the German government made with the power companies, but there must have been something similar as to the tax incentives for the power companies. Apparently, there was a major consolidation of the utilities in general in the last 5 years or so, so I would imagine that they have a pretty powerful lobby, but they are at the same time intelligent enough politically to apply their influence in the background. The power company name that I see most often is called Eon. As for the type of material that is in use for the panels, I'm not sure. I recall reading some time ago that Siemens was one of the major players in the solar panel industry here, and that they were offering panels that came with a 20 year warranty. A quick search would probably bring up a lot of hype on whatever technology is in production. I could write my engineer friend, and ask him what he decided to use. I am long overdue in writing to him anyway. I'll let you know what he says. Knuke Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 17:46 schrieb Terry Blanton: Yes, Germany is mentioned in the first reference. I don't know how it works there; however, in WA, the power companies are given tax incentives for their cooperation. Generally, do the Germans use crystalline or amorphous? http://solar.calvin.edu/education/comparison.php
RE: non-looping smot
At 11:10 am 13-05-05 -0400, Keith wrote: Hi Frank, You should be aware that back in the mid 90's, _many_ people were encouraged by Greg to build and test these devices. I was not one of them, preferring my own insanity to others, but some are still on Vo. These devices started with Emil Hartman as far as I can tell, and they do work as described. JLN has a good collection of others work on his site, check there. I had a quick look but I only saw two ramp systems. I don't think one has to go as far as having a circle of ramps. If the steel ball could transit a straight line of 100 SMOTS, say, that would be pretty convincing. . Not because I doubt in the C of E, but because few systems are really closed to the environment. I would go further and say that: == No systems are really closed to the environment. == Frank
RE: non-looping smot
Frank writes: I don't think one has to go as far as having a circle of ramps. If the steel ball could transit a straight line of 100 SMOTS, say, that would be pretty convincing. What's the difference between 2 and 100? Nothing, IMHO. The challenge is curving the line back on itself. I have no doubt that one could string as many ramps together as one liked. I seem to remember one industrious fellow doing 3 or 4. JLN's site is like a mouse warren, keep poking around and you'll find more. K.
Re: Washington State Solar Bill Signed
Gents, I have a little in-road into the German PV scene. From what I can tell, crystalline Si is still out in front, however there a couple of German companies are now looking seriously at one of the thin film competitors - cadmium telluride. The company I work for currently is developing an atmospheric pressure vapor deposition process for CdTe. (Three cheers for II-VI chalcogenides huzzah huzzah huzzah) The company I worked for up until 2003 - First Solar LLC of Perrysburg, Ohio (formerly Solar Cells Inc.) is selling CdTe thin film PV hand over fist (or Hanover Fist?) in Germany. Another German firm that was defunct for a while, Antec, is back, I hear, and getting into CdTe again. I think the big PV players in Germany are RWE Schott (with a Si plant in Billerica, Mass) and Q-Cells. NR --- Michael Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moin Terry, I know very little about what kind of deals the German government made with the power companies, but there must have been something similar as to the tax incentives for the power companies. Apparently, there was a major consolidation of the utilities in general in the last 5 years or so, so I would imagine that they have a pretty powerful lobby, but they are at the same time intelligent enough politically to apply their influence in the background. The power company name that I see most often is called Eon. As for the type of material that is in use for the panels, I'm not sure. I recall reading some time ago that Siemens was one of the major players in the solar panel industry here, and that they were offering panels that came with a 20 year warranty. A quick search would probably bring up a lot of hype on whatever technology is in production. I could write my engineer friend, and ask him what he decided to use. I am long overdue in writing to him anyway. I'll let you know what he says. Knuke Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 17:46 schrieb Terry Blanton: Yes, Germany is mentioned in the first reference. I don't know how it works there; however, in WA, the power companies are given tax incentives for their cooperation. Generally, do the Germans use crystalline or amorphous? http://solar.calvin.edu/education/comparison.php __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: National ID card
yes, i knew, becuase i stay VERY informed. it was tacked on quietly, becuase those who tacked it on did not want those opposed to it to know. in fact, several people that voted for it had not yet been told about the rider, and have stated that they would have voted against. and no, those that voted FOR it are unpatriotic. btw, the way the card is designed for verification, it will be VERY easy the first year or so to get one with false identification. especially those with multiple ids already. it will make surviving the police state we are approaching a little easier. On 5/13/05, Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:44 pm 13-05-05 -0400, you wrote: Hi All, I'm sort of curious what you all think about the national ID card bill that President Bush signed into law last wednesday. You will all be required to prove citizenship the next time you renew your drivers licences, rather than the usual mail-in update. A federal database will store all of this information, which can be checked by law enforcement as they see fit. Your new drivers license will be a federal ID card. This is the full bill, you must look inside of the massive document to find the 7 pages relevant to this new Real ID. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.01268: Here is a short faq http://news.com.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html?part=rsstag=5697111subj=news A few questions. 1) Did you know of this law before I posted about it here? 2) If you did, how did you find out about it? 3) Having been rejected as a stand alone bill, would anyone like to speculate on why it was appended to this military appropriations bill? 4) Are the 54 people who voted against this bill unpatriotic? Enquiring minds want to know... K. Same thing's happening on this side of the pond. Won't be long before they are injecting us all with chips (silicon, not potato). hic sapientia est qui habet intellectum conputet numerum bestiae numerus enim hominis est et numerus eius est sescenti sexaginta sex ;-) F.G. -- Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write Voltaire
Re: Name of the Game
From: Jones Beene The name of the game these days is CHANGE. Change seems to be in the wind in 2005. ... Hi Jones, As always, another thought provoking essay. I wanted to mention the fact that for the past week I, too, had been speculating along the same evolutionary lines of thought though not specifically in terms of what the new XBOX 360 or IPOD could be used for. I'll get back to this coincidence in thought at the end of my essay. But first: Like your own speculations, it seems possible to me that humanity may soon be presented with several choices for which the ramifications could easily transform our species into...well...something quite different. The catalyst for that evolutionary change is IMHO the Internet itself. As has already been speculated ad nausea by several contemporary SF writers (I.e. The Matrix) the physical structure of the Internet appears to be evolving in a way that might eventually mimic the synaptic connections of a massive planetary Global Brain, perhaps eventually achieving a kind of Universal Consciousness in its own right. As the Internet continues to grow in sophistication and power all that might be left for us human beings to figure out would be how best to interface with it. Ultimately I would think direct cortical connections (wet wired interfaces) would be the best way to go. What advantages and (or disadvantages) would such intimate interfacing give the next stage of humanity? Perhaps it depends on how dedicated these interfaces turn out to be. Would we be able to choose when to be connected, or would it eventually become the law that we ALWAYS be connected! No doubt, more cannon fodder for the gifted SF writer. My obvious hope is that when these cortical connections become available (AND REST ASSURED, THEY WILL BECOME AVAILABLE - PERHAPS EVEN WITHIN OUR LIFETIMES!) our personal adventures in interfacing will remain individual choices allowing us to dip into and out of the vast reservoir of Global Consciousness at our pleasure. There is a mystic side to this potential evolutionary step that is, IMHO, worth exploring just a tad: The wonders of science and technology occasionally seem to mirror what some religious philosophers have speculated will become our ultimate evolutionary spiritual path, that of reintegrating our individual consciousness (our spirit if you will) to a greater whole, or said differently: greater gestalts of perception and awareness. Will the advances of Technologically induced conscious interfacing bring forth the accumulated consensus of a Planetary Consciousness that we can tap into at will, or will this technology bring forth something more mysterious: As if it will be used as an AID (like strapping on training wheels) that ultimately helps us discover biological abilities that currently remain undeveloped in a large part of the human race. Perhaps it may turn out to be a combination of both technological and biological advances, and then, something more where genetic engineering plays a significant role as well. Quite likely, the latter. But getting back to Mr. Beene's essay, I want to bring up the fact that for the past week I, TOO, had been thinking about what could happen to the evolution of humanity as we begin integrating and interfacing these technological wonders into our bodies society. Warning! Those who are unwilling to trust any thoughts that haven't been filtered through their rational filters will probably poo-poo the following speculation, but I personally don't feel it was a mere random coincidence that Mr. Beene and I appeared to be thinking about the same concepts this week. I had, in fact, been seriously thinking about writing an essay based on some of Mr. Beene's speculations and posting them within Vortex when he beat me to the punch. He is, after all, a gifted and prolific writer, and on many subjects he is a far better storyteller than I. There seems to be evidence to support the suspicion that unique ideas and spiffy new inventions do not manifest into physical existence from the fertile imagination of a mere single individual, but simultaneously from the fertile minds of several individuals located all over the planet. Often these individuals are completely oblivious to the actions of each other. It's almost like there exists a kind of Universal Insurance Policy that doesn't care a hoot WHO trots the product to the finish line, just as long as ONE of them does. I suspect this Jungian-like synchronicity is a well documented phenomenon that, so far, has only been treated as harmless anecdotal literature primarily because our western based rationally dominated culture has no practical way to explore these ramifications in a serious scientifically controlled way. Too bad! As for me, I suspect the Super Internet already exists in some other layer of reality. I suspect we, as a species, have the biological means to tap into it. In fact, I suspect
Re: Name of the Game
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all the way to Virtual Photon-based Angels. Yes, the end of kali yuga and the emergence of homo luminous: http://www.sacredmysteries.com/sacredmysteries/GreatYugas5.htm Perhaps a re-read of Sir Clarke's Childhood's End is in order. :-)
Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -
- Original Message - From: Michael Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past - I reread your article in 1995 vol. 1 , no. 1of IE which concluded with your impending success. What happened? Didn't your next model work? I recall knowing about your kitchen sheathed in yellow cake tiles, but can't recall if you told me that or if it was mentioned in a subsequent article that I am yet to rediscover. The implication was that the runaway operation was possibly caused because the experiment was surrounded by radioactive walls. I don't recall that you ever indicated that you used uranium laced water to fuel the turbine. Was it during the runaway describe in the article that you suffered injury or was it during a later experiment? Jeff
RE: non-looping smot
At 04:09 pm 13-05-05 -0400, you wrote: Frank writes: I don't think one has to go as far as having a circle of ramps. If the steel ball could transit a straight line of 100 SMOTS, say, that would be pretty convincing. What's the difference between 2 and 100? Nothing, IMHO. Well if it will go 100 against air resistance and other losses then presumably it will go 1000, 1000,000 and eventually encircle the earth in which case the line will have curved back on itself. No? ;-) Frank
RE: non-looping smot
I hadn't really thought of that...a funny image, that. All the same, it seems clear from experiment that multiple ramps can be joined in a line. Perhaps as you say, after many such ramps the ball will peter out, hooking somewhere between the exit and entrance. It would seem like frictional losses would mount as you progressed down the line. Yet each ramp could also been seen to be adding a certain amount of energy, to be subtracted on the return trip. It'd really be better to focus on one ramp, and the critical return circuit. I suggested to Greg, with the usual utter lack of acknowledgement, that this would be his unique piece of IP to be patented. The heart and soul of the SMOT. The ramp had already been done by someone else, as I mentioned. He claimed to have not followed up on Emil Hartman, but someone should, probably an interesting story there. K. -Original Message- From: Grimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:56 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: non-looping smot At 04:09 pm 13-05-05 -0400, you wrote: Frank writes: I don't think one has to go as far as having a circle of ramps. If the steel ball could transit a straight line of 100 SMOTS, say, that would be pretty convincing. What's the difference between 2 and 100? Nothing, IMHO. Well if it will go 100 against air resistance and other losses then presumably it will go 1000, 1000,000 and eventually encircle the earth in which case the line will have curved back on itself. No? ;-) Frank
Re: Name of the Game
- Original Message - From: Terry Blanton Perhaps a re-read of Sir Clarke's Childhood's End is in order. :-) Indeed. Hard to believe it was published 53 years ago... but it could have been yesterday. Author Arthur was 36 at the time - in his prime; and will likely be seen as the preeminent prophet of the 20th Century. I hadn't consiously thought about that book in years, but recent post was unmistakably influenced by it. There is an interesting disclaimer on the credit page: The opinions expressed in this book are not those of the author ... meaning cryptically, one might suppose, that no opinion is really our own. Go figure... Jones
Re: Name of the Game
Jones Beene wrote: Indeed. Hard to believe it was published 53 years ago... but it could have been yesterday. Author Arthur was 36 at the time - in his prime; and will likely be seen as the preeminent prophet of the 20th Century. I hadn't consiously thought about that book in years, but recent post was unmistakably influenced by it. There is an interesting disclaimer on the credit page: The opinions expressed in this book are not those of the author ... meaning cryptically, one might suppose, that no opinion is really our own. Go figure... Well, I think Jed has contact with Sr.ACC. I have asked what was the inspiration for the book; but, have not received a definitive answer. As I recall, author Arthur said something like Check the ### release of the book.. If only (w)he (-k)knew.
Re: Name of the Game
I got a reply from Mr. Clark to a letter I sent him around 1965 in which he compared Childhood's End to a previous work City and the Stars. I don't recall that he said anything profound, but if I can figure where I put it, I can scan it or transcribe it for anyone who wishes to see it. Jeff - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Name of the Game Jones Beene wrote: Indeed. Hard to believe it was published 53 years ago... but it could have been yesterday. Author Arthur was 36 at the time - in his prime; and will likely be seen as the preeminent prophet of the 20th Century. I hadn't consiously thought about that book in years, but recent post was unmistakably influenced by it. There is an interesting disclaimer on the credit page: The opinions expressed in this book are not those of the author ... meaning cryptically, one might suppose, that no opinion is really our own. Go figure... Well, I think Jed has contact with Sr.ACC. I have asked what was the inspiration for the book; but, have not received a definitive answer. As I recall, author Arthur said something like Check the ### release of the book.. If only (w)he (-k)knew.
Re: OT: Natioanl ID card
Hi Keith, Yes, I noticed the report about legislation in Congress regarding the national ID card. In Texas, there is a bill pending that permits the Texas Dept. of Transportation ( TxDot) to implant a transponder into each new vehicle registration sticker that affixes to the windshield. This law should go into effect Jan 2006. The reported purpose is for use on Tollways. Permanent EZ tag if you will. However the transponder will have imbedded data identifying the registrant that includes everything found on you drivers liscense application ( not just whats on your drivers liscense). The report is that when you enter a tollway you will be billed for that use. BUT an uninsured vehicle can be recognized and sent a $ 250.00 fine for driving without liability insurance. Now couple that with the national ID and we get a better view of where the Homeland Security laws are headed. AND.. couple that with the new IRS plan to "privatize" collections of past due IRS taxes to Washington law firm who will receive a portion of all past due taxes collected similar to Texas law regarding real estate taxes "farmed out collectors i.e law firms" Notwithstanding , a person can "jimmy" the transponder, an illegal alien wont have a liscense sticker to begin with much less insurance. Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif
Re: Message from Ken Shoulders
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 13 May 2005 11:13:46 -0400: Hi, [snip] Subject: EVOs And The Hutchison Effect A paper by Ken Shoulders entitled EVOs And The Hutchison Effect will be presented at the 2005 Conference on Cold Fusion to be held at MIT on May 21. A 1 MB .PDF file showing some of the graphics slides to be used in that presentation can now be downloaded from: http://www.svn.net/krscfs/ Ken Now read http://www.escribe.com/science/vortex/m31728.html again. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk All SPAM goes in the trash unread.
RE: Message from Ken Shoulders
I'm just curious how he (they) are getting that weird discharge shape in the copper electrode. I've never seen anything like that before. I'm referring to that thing on page 7. Was that a rod that was blasted back? Or did it grow out of the electrode? The former seems reasonable to me, the latter is downright bizarre. K. -Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:50 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Message from Ken Shoulders In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 13 May 2005 11:13:46 -0400: Hi, [snip] Subject: EVOs And The Hutchison Effect A paper by Ken Shoulders entitled EVOs And The Hutchison Effect will be presented at the 2005 Conference on Cold Fusion to be held at MIT on May 21. A 1 MB .PDF file showing some of the graphics slides to be used in that presentation can now be downloaded from: http://www.svn.net/krscfs/ Ken Now read http://www.escribe.com/science/vortex/m31728.html again. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk All SPAM goes in the trash unread.
Re: Name of the Game
Hi Jones, We are in an ever increasing state of change in the world to which a significant factor is the computer and its manifestations like the internet, the X Box and an increase in worldwide scientific cumulative understanding. I mentioned a tiny segment of change coming in mathematics wrought by such seeming unrelated items like the XBox. Back in 1990, Rice University embarked on a " parallel computing" project that has since moved on. The task was almost insurmountable in 1990 yet today XBox and Game boy has some of the software completed to handle parallel. The task is ,of course , to connect the software of 4 computer integral to achieve " quadratic computing' rather than parallel. Quantum computing has been mentioned ,however, this is an imaginary concept whereas quadratics are now achievable with existing software.. albeit in bits a pieces awaiting the math minds assmbling such into useful tools. There are perhaps 25 or more persons in the world that arelooking atthis very challenge in quadratic computing including youngwizards as young as 7 years old. The youth of today are subliminally aware of change and participate willingly regardless of its true worth. This bothers me because it has no base of goodness or decency. Whatis seen as a cultural gap is actually a restructuring of "classes". The wealthy and educated are moving further apart into a " class" that will take another generation to fully recognize.. yet it is presently exemplified in legislative laws passed at thedirectionof paid lobbyists. Not so much wealthy individuals as wealthy organizations and the hierachy represented by the people that control them.. This is the new " class " emerging. I describe these people as .. ones that have unlimited wealth at their command without actually " owning " the wealth themselves. Enron's leaderswith Enron's resources at their command.. soon became obsessed with the notion they "owned" the place and were immune to law. Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif
RE: non-looping smot
Keith, I have had a look at Emil Hartman's 1980 patent (US4215330) http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/bnsviewer?CY=chLG= frDB=EPDPN=US4215330ID=US+++4215330A1+I+ and it appears from the drawing that instead of a pair of solid magnets Hartman used a series of small individual magnets. Now if you want to close the loop then the way to go would be to build a SMOT with many individual magnets forming a slight but definite curve. Two such curved SMOTS would prove the principle and give one the confidence to build the rest. As to where the energy comes from - presumably it comes from a very slight weakening of the magnetic field for each ascent of the ball. This would explain why for that apparatus which was mentioned in an earlier post in some museum or other, the thing stopped working after some given interval and the owner had to take it away to recharge the permanent magnets. Reminds me of the thread on absolute temperature. ;-) Permanent - but not permanently Permanent. Absolute - but not absolutely Absolute. If the above analysis is correct, SMOT may not be a source of energy but it would make a wonderful executive toy. 8-) Cheers, Frank Grimer
Re: Name of the Game
BlankRichard, What is seen as a cultural gap is actually a restructuring of classes. The wealthy and educated are moving further apart into a class that will take another generation to fully recognize.. I think a more surprising societal change on the horizon, due to huge advances in computer power and artifical intelligence, will be that the education part of the class distinction equation will start to disappear. With even small wealth, and even if that derives from crime or luck, the 'undeservingly rich' individual will be able to have instant education, good taste and savoir faire. Tongue-tied Presidents will cease to be laughing stock with a built-in prompter - and so-on. Whether the particular 'undeservingly rich' individual can pull-off the rest of the impersonation and sharade is a different story - but many will. With a teraflop computer and any number of expert system software packages implantable, the street smart hustler will (theoretically) in a few years, be able to pass for a rocket scientist, brain surgeon or whatever is on his fantasy list... kinda like Billy Ray Valentine on steroids (you wont get that reference unless you are a movie-trivia freak). But one thing is for sure, the times, they are a-changin' ...as Bobby Zimmerman used to opine. Jones
FW: WHAT'S NEW Friday, May 13, 2005
[Original Message] From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Akira Kawasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/13/2005 1:00:49 PM Subject: WHAT'S NEW Friday, May 13, 2005 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 13 May 05 Washington, DC 1. VOODOO MEDICINE: TAI SOPHIA AND PENN MED FORM A PARTNERSHIP. Tai who? What's going on with the great Ivy League med schools? A study at Columbia claimed to show that the prayers of complete strangers halfway around the world increased pregnancy rates of fertility patients, who were not even aware of being prayed for. The study was revealed to be fraudulent. Somebody had to tell them this? http://www.aps.org/WN/WN04/wn120304.cfm Harvard too has been embarrassed by ties to the wacky world of alternative medicine. Now, the oldest medical school in the nation, the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, is pandering to the public's obsession with mystical healing. Medical and nursing students at Penn will be able to earn a master's degree in Complementary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) from Tai Sophia Institute. Tai Sophia began teaching acupuncture 30 years ago, but has since expanded into other medical arts that don't work. Two weeks ago, Tai Sophia sponsored a Deepak Chopra conference http://www.aps.org/WN/WN98/wn100998.cfm. Wayne Jonas, author of Healing with Homeopathy, is on the Board of Trustees. 2. ACUPUNCTURE: OR MAYBE YOU COULD JUST EAT A ALAPENO PEPPER. JAMA, May 4, reports a randomized, controlled trial comparing the effectiveness of acupuncture with sham acupuncture in treating migraine. There were 302 patients in the study. Acupuncture is widely touted for treating migraine, but in 12 sessions over 8 weeks, sham acupuncture, in which the needles are inserted in the wrong points, was just as effective as inserting them in the correct points. This should greatly simplify the training of acupuncture specialists. Just stick the damn needles anywhere. 3. NASA: GRIFFIN SAYS WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, AND HE'LL PROVE IT. The good news is that NASA is working on a shuttle mission to fix Hubble. Then we finish the space station and build a replacement for the shuttle. And then oops, that's it. We're out of money. We can keep an astronaut or two going in circles until we're ready to go back to the Moon, though I can't remember why it is we want to go back there. It means we'll have to give up the Space Interferometry and Terrestrial Planet Finder missions, the top missions looking for signs of extra-solar life. 4. PROLIFERATION: MAYBE THE N. KOREAN ARMY IS DIGGING LATRINES. After the weapons-of-mass-destruction fiasco in Iraq, warnings from intelligence agencies are harder to take seriously. It may be that Kim Jong Il, like Saddam, just wants to look dangerous. Dig a few tunnels. If that doesn't do it, pull the fuel rods. 5. LOS ALAMOS: NANOS STEPS DOWN AND KUCKUCK IS INTERIM DIRECTOR. I can remember when the low turnover rate at Los Alamos was a matter of concern. Making a former admiral Director solved that. THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND. Opinions are the author's and not necessarily shared by the University of Maryland, but they should be. --- Archives of What's New can be found at http://www.aps.org/WN To subscribe, send a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past -
Moin Jeff. The runaway events happened on the first model that I built. I did these runs in my kitchen less than a foot away from these radioactive tiles, but I had no clue that they were radioactive until later. While trying to get a subsequent model to do the runaway thing again, I came up with the crazy idea of lacing the water, thinking that it may have played a roll. I used the geiger counter quite a bit while wiping down the tiles, but didn't turn it on for the initial test run itself. I was in a hurry, and wanted to see what would happen. Now I know. This is all in the VG archives, if you want to download all of those huge files and run text searches. At Bill Beaty's website there used to be a photo of the first model, torn down, and sitting on my kitchen counter. One more word of warning though, if you go onto Bill Beaty's website, leave a trail of breadcrumbs or make bookmarks or something so that you don't get lost. Whenever I visit Bill's website, I always get lost for hours, if not days. It's pretty weird in there. Knuke Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 23:26 schrieb revtec: - Original Message - From: Michael Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Cavitation neutrons - was: Blast from the Past - I reread your article in 1995 vol. 1 , no. 1of IE which concluded with your impending success. What happened? Didn't your next model work? I recall knowing about your kitchen sheathed in yellow cake tiles, but can't recall if you told me that or if it was mentioned in a subsequent article that I am yet to rediscover. The implication was that the runaway operation was possibly caused because the experiment was surrounded by radioactive walls. I don't recall that you ever indicated that you used uranium laced water to fuel the turbine. Was it during the runaway describe in the article that you suffered injury or was it during a later experiment? Jeff
