I understand what you're getting at, but unfortunately my impression of the
Control 2 party, at least after the initial couple hours which I did enjoy,
was that Rich wasn't really pushing any envelopes but rather really on
tricks and formulas he has perfected over the years... I'm not saying
I think that no one will argue about Richie being a good DJ, something of
a marketing genius, a sometimes great producer, a guy who puts a lot of
thought into what he's doing, and a nice guy to boot. but ... but ...
I have a hard time any more with relentless pounding techno. I have a hard
time
I have a lot of respect for Richie, but I don't think his DJ-ing long
sets of hard techno would really do it for me any more. There's too much
out there that's more interesting.
Not to knock Mr. Hawtin at all, but I have to second Kent's sentiments. I
am no veteran of his DJ sets, but I
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Kent williams wrote:
Here's my thought after way too much hard techno at DEMF-- it was perfect
for the 16-20 year old cohort who dominated the crowd. They've discovered
something that makes them feel good, so naturally they want it 24/7. But
it's like eating a whole
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I find it bothersome that the people who are discarding Hawtin because of
his set weren't even at the party.
The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom
He seems to be taking cues from the Perlon guys and getting into weirder
rhythms that are still funky and techno and housy all at
I wasn't commenting on the party at all - I thought I made that clear in my
post. Maybe not. Let the record now state : I wasn't commenting on the
party, but rather what little I know of his DJ sets in general.
respectfully.
jeff
At
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Heh, this from the back of the Muzik album:
just because you like chocolate cake, doesn't mean that you eat it
everyday.
I recall talking to Rich about this--and I believe it's a reference to
chemistry. This was after his birthday at the
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I find it bothersome that the people who are discarding Hawtin because of
his set weren't even at the party.
No one is discarding him as far as I can tell. We're *discussing* the
party. There's a hell of a lot to respect, by both
he's said at least once, that after de9:ce he was thinking of getting back
to crazier stuff. this was said in the context that the plastikman stuff
was crazy, but I doubt there will be anymore plastikman.
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Please don't speak about partys you did not attend.
Sorry, I *was* in attendance for a portion of the night. Not my cup of tea
anymore, but he was obviously having a great time, and the crowd (what I
could see of them) dug it.
Perspective helps. If Richie held a control party every
At 9:39 PM -0400 6/4/02, Ian wrote:
On 6/4/02 8:59 PM, Reverb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh, this from the back of the Muzik album:
just because you like chocolate cake, doesn't mean that you eat it
everyday.
I recall talking to Rich about this--and I believe it's a reference to
The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom
Which must have been the hour-or so that I caught. Around 4:30 - 6am.
I was speaking w/ a hawtin fan about his recent tendencies toward
hard repetitive stuff- and they were trying to tell me that he uses the
hard stuff to weed people
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find it bothersome that the people who are discarding Hawtin because of
his set weren't even at the party.
The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom
He seems to be taking cues from the Perlon guys and getting into weirder
rhythms
Its been common knowledge that Rich bangs it early and gets funky-weird as
the night goes on.
That strikes me not as a weeding technique (though it has that effect-
whether its the music or the late hour), but as sort of a natural
progression of a night.
I can't speak for 93-95, but I remeber
cheers to Ken for that. i think everyone, from hawtin to atkins to UR need
to challenge themselves more.
maybe i'm going through another childhood and wanna rave again, but
control2 was one of the best times i've had at a party...period.
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Kent williams wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jun
I can't speak for 93-95, but I remeber seeing Hawtin for the first time in
96 and being disturbed at how minimal it was. Being new to the music I
found that boring. Of course, stating that anything was better back then
is rather obvious.
yeah, with most developing scenes, younger = better
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Hi,
Turned the national radio on this morning and
i thought i heard a new track by Joy Division!
turned out it was Moby with ´we are all made of stars´!
I didn´t listen to national radio for a long time so i didn´t
hear the tune before but...i like it..am i in trouble now?:-)
Sorry, just got a
Liking Moby I can handle. Comparing him to Joy Division, you're walking a
thin line!
;-)
Sean.
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Hi,
Turned the national radio on this
Well it´s not that i would like to compare Moby
to Joy Division (no way!!) but i thought that the
beginning of the track sounded like Joy Division IMHO.
Moby takes this as a compliment i read on his website
today because he´s hughe fan of JD and New Order...
When he was invited to play ´ceremony´
Well i don't think you will ever hear a new Joy Division track because Ian
Curtis is dead for more then 20 years now :)
Well it´s not that i would like to compare Moby
to Joy Division (no way!!) but i thought that the
beginning of the track sounded like Joy Division IMHO.
Moby takes this as a
I know, I know...it´s just that it reminded me
of Joy Division, maybe i should have wrote that!
Anyway, am i the only one who got that feeling
when hearing the track?
Martijn
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Aan:
I thought it sounded OK, but the lyrics? DJ Assault seems more profound
... :P
-d
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Martijn de Blaauw wrote:
I know, I know...it?s just that it reminded me
of Joy Division, maybe i should have wrote that!
Anyway, am i the only one who got that feeling
when hearing the
Now now
Let's not go ripping on DJ Assault.
Who else could have taught me to be a hoe? its not like there's a manual.
or is there?
Now I'm very curious about this Moby track...one of the reasons I liked
Adult.'s Contagious was for that Joy Division feel
Dina
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Let's not go ripping on DJ Assault.
Who else could have taught me to be
Well,
After having missed only this Hawtin Party over the past 4 years I have to
say that the last Control left me feeling a little empty. I love a loud
sound system just as much as anyone, but even wearing earplugs the entire
night my ears *still* rang for seven days afterwards. 1500 people
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The fact is, he played very little 140bpm
Hi All
Sorry just to add my 2 pennie worth..
I like Hawtin as A producer and since hearing him for while
DJ'ing, I think his production is miles better than his DJ'ing..why?
well it a bit more imaginative..his sets are so pre-programmed by final
scratch that
yes its a great product for DJ's but
did anyone see this (i'm looking at you, Toby Frith)? what the heck did he
play?
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I saw Richie at Lost on Sunday and thought he was pretty uninspiring -
especially after AFX's 90 minute set. He started off with 7 Drexciya tunes
and then dropped Mill's Axis vs Subject (what a phenomenal track) - which
went down well, then he then finished off with 30 minutes of gabba...
Greets,
Still, what's to say that techno has to have soul or funk - why can't
we
have some industrial sounding stuff?
Oh, there's nothing wrong with industrial at all, that's really what led me
to techno. I think a lot of Fred Giannelli's work has an industrial feel to
it (in a very good
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Still, what's to say that techno has to have soul or funk - why can't we
have some industrial sounding stuff?
We can, but then it wouldn't be called techno. Soul or funk are
defining elements of techno in my understanding.
That said, I'm
I keep seeing the subject on this thread expecting a discussion of some great
DJ's that I should seek out to enjoy and yet it's not. Anyone have some secret
mixtapes / cd's / online mixes that are freaking them properly?
- Giles
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did anyone have big opinions on the alexander kowalski
album on kanzleramt?
i recently picked it up and i like it more every time
i hear it. some people were mixed on it. overall i
think the production quality was very impressive...he
has a way with bass lines.
on a side note, is the new axis
Ian wrote on Wed, 5 Jun 2002 about following:
That said, I'm waiting for the EBM revival to rise out of this
electro-clash business. Front 242/Nitzer Ebb cover band, anyone?
actually front 242 instrumentals (although i definitely like the
vocal versions) are pretty good mixing stuff..
Surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but I got a
copy of his new 12 on Peacefrog...very limited from
what I hear each store in the US was only allowed one
copy! yikes! This is very good and I like it way more
than kick dirt...more reminiscent of nitetime world
material...Does anyone know if
nope, the immediate future is electro and micro*.*
both are considered trendy among those who need to be trendy to be part of
something
-Joe
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Everybodys done one... thought I'd best be doing one two.. so
10. The Street - Frank Hunter - (Mono)
9. Tap Dance - Planetary Assault Systems - (Peace Frog)
8. Kazumi - don't joke with robots - (energun22)
7. Boss Drum - Byron Bogues - (Neuton)
6. Audio12 - Basic Implant
5. Winners Run
yeah this is a little late but.
i was at the submerge panel saturday morning of demfit had a very pro
technology flavor to it...imo that is rather problematic since technology has
played a _large_ part in the rising levels of inequality both in the united
states (the income of the
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 05:30 AM, Ian Cheshire wrote:
Hi All
Sorry just to add my 2 pennie worth..
I like Hawtin as A producer and since hearing him for while
DJ'ing, I think his production is miles better than his DJ'ing..why?
well it a bit more imaginative..his sets are so
that's like saying that any dj's set is pre-programmed by the records in
his box. if anything, FS makes available to him a far wider range of
material, including custom edits. it arguably un-programs his sets.
but I read in an interview that Richie was doing earl;ier this year and he
stated
than you misunderstood. he can do quick cut n paste edits on tracks.
but once he steps to the decks, FS is just a supper huge record box.
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Ian Cheshire wrote:
that's like saying that any dj's set is pre-programmed by the records in
his box. if anything, FS makes available
ok so in that case then his sets are pretty boring then with all this
around him?
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On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 07:25 AM, Ian Cheshire wrote:
that's like saying that any dj's set is pre-programmed by the records
in
his box. if anything, FS makes available to him a far wider range of
material, including custom edits. it arguably un-programs his sets.
but I read in an
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 07:32 AM, Ian Cheshire wrote:
ok so in that case then his sets are pretty boring then with all this
around him?
that's the subjective part.
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Well, for a night of good old banging techno to
get rid of the stress at work or so..he´s my man!
Martijn
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I was at the party from 7-9am and was soo bored. He was playing the most
basic tracks, no funk and soul, just minimal 4/4 drum tracks. Of course he
more than made up for it the next night over @ PEMF playing for the headz ;)
When in rome, do as ...
As for UR challenging themselves more, I
Rolando is my new hero.
agree totally, I had the pleasure and saw him at a festival in the UK I
played at in 1999 and he rocked it..played real versitale stuff and tricks
as well.
always liked him and always will!
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I would assume the opposite: that he plays the harder, more straight-ahead
stuff at the beginninng to satisfy the partiers and the when they leave he
plays to the music fans. I've certainly seen DJs do that before...
^_^
I was speaking w/ a hawtin fan about his recent tendencies toward
hard
http://www.detroithistorical.org/promo_techno/index.asp
The Detroit Historical Museum is going to do an exhibit on techno! could be
interesting.
out
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i liked what sasha and digweed did with the State Fairgrounds facility when they
played detroit in April. it's a fairly large, cavernous place. but they added a
few things
that made it an enjoyable place for the event (hanging globes from the ceiling,
confetti of some sort on the floor, the
yeah, cuz ya know the people who are only there for the music and not on pharms
are the ones still going at 7 am...
I would assume the opposite: that he plays the harder, more straight-ahead
stuff at the beginninng to satisfy the partiers and the when they leave he
plays to the music fans.
Hold on now - electro is not trendy - *Elektroclash* is trendy
(Fischerspooner and the like). Electro, like Herbie Hancock's Rockit, Aux
88, Kraftwerk, Drexciya, etc. aren't trendy -
they are timeless.
See - there they go again misappropriating the genre... ;)
MEK
Rare and nice to see that Eddie Fowlkes is mentioned in the same breath as
Derrik, Kevin and Juan as the originators of techno. All we need now is for
Shake and Blake Baxter to get a mention :)
http://www.detroithistorical.org/promo_techno/index.asp
The Detroit Historical Museum is going
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Wow! FK at Lost?
Hmm, I guess he'd be in the back room, maybe I'll go to my first lost in
about 5 years. : )
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This
sorry but don't know about you but I don't think Pharms comes into it..
man I hate this refferal to pharms re: dance music...
I think you'll find drugs in general have been around alot longer than music
unless the marijuana plant banged out musical tunes as well when it
bloomed...
Thats such
Ian wrote on Wed, 5 Jun 2002 about following:
That said, I'm waiting for the EBM revival to rise out of this
electro-clash business. Front 242/Nitzer Ebb cover band, anyone?
actually rethinking this i remembered that O.H.G.R already crossed over
electro-clash and ebm on their previous (and
oh please.
if you've never gone past 7am without 'help' than that's your problem.
maybe you don't love the music as much as you think.
i'm not saying there weren't people using assistance, but there were
definately more wasted folks at 3am than at 7am. here's a concept, how
hardcore are the
IC Thats such a non techno attitude man, thats really gets my goat..sorry but
IC should we not
IC embrace not disgrace..
Care to summarize the official techno attitude for us?
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and there you go, narrowly defining a word to only fit what you like.
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hold on now - electro is not trendy - *Elektroclash* is trendy
(Fischerspooner and the like). Electro, like Herbie Hancock's Rockit, Aux
88, Kraftwerk, Drexciya, etc. aren't
I wasn't at the panel, but I disagree with the idea that technology is a
root cause of the massive inequality of the world. I think technology is
neutral, it is a tool whose use can be motivated by greed and profit or by
social consciousness. The current tide of globalism from below, a
Embrace everything without prejudice :0)
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IC Thats such a non techno attitude man, thats really gets my
Maybe so (thanks Jason), but I could have sworn it sounded more 'modern'
than that. It even had sort of a muffled electric guitar type sound looped
in the background, and the kick and hats gave me the impression that it was
from the present genre...
JB
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I can vividly recall after a devastatingly hard night at the Bankle
building, Robert Smith (anyone remember him or have a contact?) turning
to me and boldly stating hard techno will never die as long as there
are kids who want to dance.
Funny how some subjects never really veer too far off the
that's like saying that any dj's set is pre-programmed by the records in
his box. if anything, FS makes available to him a far wider range of
material, including custom edits. it arguably un-programs his sets.
but I read in an interview that Richie was doing earl;ier this year and he
stated
hard techno will never die as long as there
are kids who want to dance.
like folk music on an accordian? it's still there, you got to look though.
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No I'm not narrowly defining what electro is - electro has it's roots in
hip-hop/funk culture - I haven't heard too much of that in the Elektroclash
stuff - which leans toward and practically rips-off New Order/Duran
Duran/Patrick Cowley/Sylvester/Moroder/any ol' 80s synthpop group.
MEK
I think its bullshit that DJs can do this but if I showed up with a laptop
and started playing remixed tracks off it, people would stab me mid-set.
(not that I yearn to do this)
-Joe
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electro is heavily influenced by the 80s. electro is driving the prices of
tr-808s back up.
-Joe
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Electro is a product of the 80s and has never stopped:
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Can anyone tell me which full albums the following songs are on (Vinyl) :
Zapp More Bounce to the Ounce ?
One Way Cutie Pie?
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No I'm not narrowly defining what electro is - electro has it's roots in
hip-hop/funk culture - I haven't heard too much of that in the Elektroclash
stuff - which leans toward and practically rips-off New
how do you figure?
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, :P wrote:
I think its bullshit that DJs can do this but if I showed up with a laptop
and started playing remixed tracks off it, people would stab me mid-set.
(not that I yearn to do this)
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http://www.gigolo-records.de
look under artists traxx deecoy
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I wasn't at the panel, but I disagree with the idea that technology is a
root cause of the massive
because I play shows and I get that impression from the people to which I
play music
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I'm pretty sure you mean, Dayton Cutie Pie, which is on the album of the
same name. It was reissued recently - I've seen it in HMV.
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More Bounce is on the first Zapp album, Zapp, and I'm not too sure about
Cutie Pie. There was a One Way compilation-type thing released in the
mid-1990s, but I don't think it came out on vinyl to be honest!
If you download Nasty Rock by Garrett's Crew on mp3, and give it a listen,
that'll be
how can technology be blamed for this?
this is human nature.
kataconda
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i was at the submerge panel saturday morning of demfit had a very pro
technology flavor to it...imo that is rather problematic since technology
has played a _large_ part in the rising levels of
No, you don't. Oops. You mean One Way's Cutie Pie. I'll just not bother
with these emails, as I am detecting a downward trend...
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if it sounds good people might forgive you for using technology in techno
kataconda
because I play shows and I get that impression from the people to which I
play music
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how do you figure?
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, :P wrote:
I think its bullshit that DJs can
I really don't want to either but I'm sick of people confusing the
Electroclash music and electro music - they are not one in the same but
when people refer to electro as Tiga, Fischerspooner, Chicks on Speed, Miss
Kitten, etc. as electro it really bugs me just as it bugs Ed DMX. When I
revisited
well they love it when you use technology to come up with things of your
own, but I still dont think it would fly if I showed up and started playing
boy george remixes.
:)
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Kathleen, I wasn't at the panel, and I do very much understand your
point about the role of technology in globalization and economic inequality.
However, keep in mind that (to use a little Marxist terminology), the
productive forces, technology as such, are entirely bound by and exist only
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IC Embrace everything without prejudice :0)
My love is earned, not automatic.
I have never lived in a world where PLUR seemed like an intelligent
approach to life. The universe envisioned by its adherents is devoid
of
technology hasn't changed dick. People have simply NEVER been equal. the
haves vs the have-nots has always been there, and in many cases to a worse
degree than it is now. slavery? caste systems? serfs? I'm sure someone
would argue that we're all slaves now to corporations, but life in
My techno isn't about turning your brain off. I don't think Juan's or
Carl's or Derrick's or Shake's is either
have you heard the model 600 track? Good, catchy, and weaker than any of
hawtin's material.
subjective.
_
Get
Something to ponder:
Perhaps a technology based culture isn't what every society needs or
wants. While admitting that technological advancements in sanitation
and medicine are universally beneficial, one could also argue that every
family in the world having a computer and internet
well, i am sorry to say that life now is better than it was lets say 200
years ago.
thats what some people would like you to think.
all things r changing and nothing is really changing. good and bad r un
relevant critiras , which r too
relative, too have a good answer do we REALLY live better?
i
increases in technology have led to globalization which has led to dramatic
increases in inequity in these countries
h. maybe because instead of the entire country being poor, globalization
has allowed a technological elite to emerge into standards of living on par
with the middle
So pop a pill, and pretend that the latest Minus is
intensely
engaging, but don't expect me to embrace that.
My techno isn't about turning your brain off. I don't
think Juan's or
Carl's or Derrick's or Shake's is either. I can
appreciate a few of
Hawtin's records, but I strongly
Ask those little china kids if two hundred years ago they would have been in
the same position, or worse. I'm saying in general terms, that life HAS
improved, and that certain aspects of it really aren't going to change,
because THEY HAVE NEVER CHANGED.
From: Yair Etziony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings all...
I realize there was a thread about this a few weeks back, however...
I like what I have heard from this record (Loudboxer-speedy J)
What else would you recommend?
Thanks,
j
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Hello from Warp,
MAGIC BUS TOUR UPDATE:
11am Tuesday. Arrive back in London after 3 weeks round Europe and 1
Week around the UK.
Highlights. Seeing people going crazy to new Warp music and films.
Lowlights. Realising that the magic bus tour is coming to an end.
However, there are two more
200 years ago those childs in china could have better way of life.
it was before the opuiom war, china was a decaying empire, even a poor man
(if he passed the tests)
had the chance to be clerk - like a noble man in china, the empire was
ruled by a nice system (that was sort-of made by
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