I gave this new mixalbum by R. Hawtin a few good listenings over the
past few days and i do not know what to think of it.
He did a great job in cutting, pasting, mixing, morphing and
restructuring all the trakcs and putting them togeheter again
But i cannot get rid of the feeling that it all
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I gave this new mixalbum by R. Hawtin a few good listenings over the
past few days and i do not know what to think of it.
He
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I gave this new
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The X-Mix huh? I dunno - my fave mix has always been the Mixmag Live CD.
Quality from start to finish.
I prefer the Transitions mix to 'Closer To The Edit' - I always felt
that the concept of DE9:CE
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The X-Mix huh? I dunno - my fave mix has always been the Mixmag Live CD.
Quality from start
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Blaauw, Martijn de wrote:
Do some of u have any thoughts on this mix???
Only that Im glad Im swamped at work and wont be able to see the sh*tstorm
that youre unintentionally creating unfold.
HAVE A GREAT DAY ON 313 EVERYONE!
derek.
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As said, i respect the man for taking things further and trying things new,
i mean the mix is good, no doubts about that.
But i do find a it bit to much fabricated, everything has been put togheter
so carefully and so thought
Actually it's pretty quiet up here
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On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Blaauw, Martijn de wrote
Has your bottle popped Mo?
m
Only that Im glad Im swamped at work and wont be able to see the
sh*tstorm that youre unintentionally creating unfold.
HAVE A GREAT DAY ON 313 EVERYONE!
derek.
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Actually it's pretty quiet up here
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I'm going to have to disagree, the album has plenty of cold machine
soul and he does keep it interesting, it may not be a giant leap but it
fits well with his work. It's a great package for 9.99 and I really
like the 12 as well, so there :)
m
On 2 Dec 2005, at 15:36, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:
I don't mind it really - I like the concept, and the total package is great
given the price.
My actual favourite bit is the DVD footage of him playing at the festival in
germany at stupid o'clock in the morning. The visuals are mind-meltingly good
and the music is lots of fun.
The main mix
I agree. Though the boring aspect can be perceptible at some times, it
is just due to the fact some of the records are played for a very long
time while other are just short glimpses. But eh, thats the concept.
Damn the first 20 minutes of the mix were previewed at Sonar on a really
grat
thought the cd was good, though awfully similar to the hawtin live
sets i've heard recently. kinda feel like i have about 5 copies of
the same set
i dont know why he included that timewarp footage on the dvd; it looks
terribly boring
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I agree.
Looks also hes drunk tooo much ! I dont like the way he fades the tracks...
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Ben Britz a écrit :
thought the cd was good, though awfully similar to the hawtin live
sets i've heard recently. kinda feel like i have about 5 copies of
the same set
i dont know why he included that
Has anybody picked up the DE9:Closer.. vinyl? I assumed it was going
to be just sections of the mix on vinyl, but have since heard that its a
collection of locked grooves - any comments?
Thanks,
Sean.
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Has anybody picked up the DE9:Closer.. vinyl? I assumed it was going
to be just sections of the mix on vinyl, but have since heard that its a
collection of locked grooves - any comments?
Thanks,
Sean.
There will be included a compilation of 100 locked grooves
taken from 300 locked grooves
Mo' money, mo' money...
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Has anybody picked up the DE9:Closer.. vinyl? I assumed it was going
to be just sections of the mix on vinyl, but have since heard that its a
collection of locked grooves - any comments?
Thanks,
Sean.
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Has anybody picked up the DE9:Closer.. vinyl? I assumed it was going
to be just sections of the mix on vinyl, but have since heard that its a
collection of locked
there's a nifty sample player loop thingy download @ m-nus.com
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ripoff) then more power to him. that goes for both Mr Harvey and Mr
Hwatin...
jeff
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basically, he is just remixing. you never
I suspect that he used electrix' repeater a bit as well. The perfect tool
for loopoopooping,
I've already heard people slag on this CD. People aren't happy when
Hawtin's bangin', and they aren't happy when he's minimal and (imho) funky.
No winning is there?
jim
I listened to the cd once
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I suspect that he used electrix' repeater a bit as well. The perfect tool
(no more gear talk, i promise)
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in the realdetroit interview it says that he used final scratch? i kind of
doubt that he could
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I thought that was the point of this release, to inspire volumes of
mailing
list discussion attempting to catalogue all of the samples and loops that
he
uses, and what track they came from. Gotta
nobody else can play, nor
would anyone want to.
What's the point?
M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 31/08/2001 12:14:53 AM
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There's nothing next level about DE9 'Closer to the Edit', only the fact
that all the people who have done
that's DJ Funk - Run (UK)...not the track i'm thinking of
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Not sure what it's called, but it sounds like the song that Jeff
Am I the only person that finds the concept of this Hawtin
album a bit up
its own arse?
Good DJing? - no it's all done on computer
Yeah so? If you think it's easy try to do it yourself. I think you'll think
different after you tried to cut-n-paste so many track in one smooth track.
Maybe
(minimal technology) to today (almost unlimited
technology). There are less astonishingly creative people around today.
Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 31/08/2001 09:01:16 AM
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My first question was is it good DJing?
The answer is no because DJing is not involved, but you tell
me that it's
incredibly difficult to do.
'It's DJ-ing Jim but not as we know it'
This it's not'really dj-ing'thing sounds a lot like the discussion people
try to have with me when techno
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Am I the only person that finds the concept of this Hawtin album a bit up
its own arse?
Good DJing? - no it's all done on computer
Good tracks? - no he is 'improving' upon other people's tracks
and that music is
forever being recycled to create new music? Does this not eventually make
the music creatively bankrupt?
alastair
Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 31/08/2001 11:13:07 AM
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Do you think that you can continue this process indefinitely so that
there are no new original (per se) sources
~snip~
Let the past go. I'm listening right now and I think it is a perfect blend of
remixing and production. It is nice to my ears and isn't that all that matters
in music? Of
I have sleep apnea. In addition to sleeping with a machine (no - this is
not a veiled reference to my wife :-), I use a room humidifier. When I'm
away from home, I REALLY miss it. Sometimes hotel blowers come close, so it
usually works out a preferable thing for me to stay in a hotel rather
Mentioning blechwell THAT's a good mix...shivers down my spine,
especially the part with the woman screamin 'let me out, let me out...he's
dead, he's dead..' in the afx part
about closer, very nice, very nice...basic channelish, just a question, is
it possible to play separate mp3 in
zero doesn't exist? really?
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Do you think that you can continue this process indefinitely so that
there are no new original (per
zero doesn't exist? really?
It certainly does, as proven by my bank account.
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zero doesn't exist? really?
From
isn't that how all the Drumcode and User stuff is made anyway? ;)
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:39:22 -0400
whoa...
so what *is* good DJing anyways?
no he
I don't mean to sound ratty but why are you talking about something you have
yet to hear? Listen to it, it makes more sense after that.
H
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:23:49 -0700
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Good DJing? - no it's all done on computer
so, what about the concept of megamixes done with reel-to-reel, like in
late '80s and early 90's and released on vinyl? there were lots of them;
some of them were good, some weren't. idea was
basically, he is just remixing. you never bitched about it before
when your favorite techno producers do it...so why bitch now? :P
this album is his interpretation of the music...it's not like he is taking
credit for EVERYTHING (all the synth lines, piano riffs, whatev)...so why
are you so mad?
so that
there are no new original (per se) sources being used and that music is
forever being recycled to create new music? Does this not eventually make
the music creatively bankrupt?
this is one of the best arguements i've seen on here so far. I totally
agree. While sampling/djing IS
Hi all
could someone tell what the track is on hawtin's DE9 - closer to the edit,
that kicks in at track 15 after 20 or so seconds (after a fadeout)? - great
bassline etci'm listening on a minidisc copied from original so don't
have track listing.
what labels are there putting this type of
Hey Howard,
Is DE9 closer online anywhere that you know of?
Don't expect anything and you'll never be
disappointed
TJ
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Oh wow! How beautiful! Thanks!
On Thu, 30 August 2001, stephen wrote:
It's broken into seperate mp3's here enjoy :)
http://saturn5.com/darwin/MP3/Richie_Hawtin-DE9_Closer_To_The_Edit-(Advance)-READ.NFO-2001-FSP
/Steve
T.J.Johnson wrote:
Hey Howard,
Is DE9 closer
30, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: [313] DE9 closer
Hi all
could someone tell what the track is on hawtin's DE9 - closer to the edit,
that kicks in at track 15 after 20 or so seconds (after a fadeout)? -
great
bassline etci'm listening on a minidisc copied from original so don't
have track
too ;)
read:
http://de9.m-nus.com/index.html to understand how richie explains it.
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Hello.
To my knowledge there is no 'track listing' per se, because
ID 15 after about 20 secs is from, erm, they can have a spotter's
badge. if you hear the mix you'll know the bit i mean,
howard
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there is a track that comes in at 38:20 and one that comes in at 50:00 that
says discount dave or discount babe please id these
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hear the mix you'll know the bit i mean,
howard
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:45:34 -0400
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after listening to closer to the edit i realized that 90
one of the writers for my web site forwarded me a printout of an email from
richie's publicist that breaks down which tracks on the cd come from which
tracks in real life. for each cd track you get a list of 3,4,5 or 6
songs that contributed to it. it gives the full info on first reference,
then
then just artist and title each time it repeats. not sure whether this
info will be included in the liner notes
due to copyrights, it'll have to be.
I listened to the cd once online (i was real icky about listening to it more
than that, since i prefer to support the artists), and i
when is the release date if it's not out already
kaojyan
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Release date is the 17th of Sept. I believe.
Quite a few Carl Craig/Innerzone Orchestra samples on here ... Interesting
listening.
-Pete
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when
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Release date is the 17th of Sept. I believe.
Quite a few Carl Craig/Innerzone Orchestra samples on here ... Interesting
listening.
-Pete
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. I can't say that it's my
favorite Hawtin record, but I definitely respect him for trying to take
Techno to that next level.
Leif
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aka STEVE BICKNELL of lost/cosmic records
you shouldn't have any problems finding
any info on him
regards
paul
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