...i have been heavily listening to the future beat alliance lp disconnected
(21dsr) and i must say it is a beautiful piece of music...
Agreed - and this gives me a great chance to plug the next Emoticon release,
Future Beat Alliance's 'Head Ways' EP, which is released through Rush Hour
next
trying to revive a dead thread
regarding fade-ins, i spotted another one - masterbuilder by robert hood,
and i'm pretty sure that on the minimal nation ep there is another on or
two :-)
on a side note - i have been heavily listening to the future beat alliance
lp disconnected (21dsr) and i
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Hey Wibo...
You could always throw the track into Sound Forge, re-edit it so that
it's
more 'DJ friendly' and burn it to CD
Not to beat a dead horse...
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hi wibo,
i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible
to
mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and
structure
of your mix.
drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot
That Pow Wow release of Late Night was just mastered at very low
volume. I actually play the DJ Pierre mix from that a lot, but
the faders always are on 10 :)
A lot of Red Planet material also fades in. I've always guessed
that the point Mike and Jeff were trying to make is that it's
important
: (313) Fade In Techno)
Well, I could take this to another level by saying that all records that I
play
out are records that are produced in a strict 16 or 32 beat counter (I
don't
know if this is clearly explained to everyone, I mean records in which
nothing
new pops up until the end of the 16
Producers bending their tracks to the will of the DJ is
precisely why so much techno has been hurriedly chewing itself
in an ever-deepening rut for the past few years.
I like songs.
Some of my tracks don't even start with drums.
What nerve I've got.
-
Brian balistic Prince
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I have a younger brother who is more 0207 than 313 (0207 is the inner
Exactly my point Tristan...
As anyone who knows me knows I am long-time fan and friend of one D.
Tenaglia. Though I am disappointed with the progressive shite he's been
playing of late - thankfully here in NYC @ Vinyl he doesn't actually play as
much of that as I'm told he does abroad. Danny
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Subject: [313] (313) Fade In Techno / re-edits
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:19:37 -0500
Exactly my point Tristan...
As anyone who knows me knows I am long-time fan and friend of one D.
Tenaglia. Though I am disappointed with the progressive
I was just thinking about how odd this discussion is.
Any other musician in any other genre makes music for one purpose, for ppl
to listen.
Only in electronic music are producers expected to make music, not for
listening, but for other ppl to use as tools.
i'm not a dj, but i think anyone who
) that is
as convenient for that purpose as possible.
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I was just thinking
I was just thinking about how odd this discussion is.
Any other musician in any other genre makes music for one purpose, for ppl
to listen.
Only in electronic music are producers expected to make music, not for
listening, but for other ppl to use as tools.
i'm not a dj, but i think
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Subject: Re: [313] Fade In Techno (how deep do you want this rut?)
I was just thinking about how odd this discussion is.
Any other musician in any other genre makes music for one purpose, for
ppl
to listen.
Only in electronic music
Bad Boy:The Advent . one of my favorite tracks of all time. it fades in and
i love it. sometimes, when i play it in the middle of the set, i will cut
the table off just to lef this track FADE in. or if not i can mix the fade
into the current record(s) that is/are playing. imo the fade in or
i'm not a dj, but i think anyone who complains because a track fades in is
an arrogant ass. what makes you think that producers should be concerned
with your needs as a dj. if you don't like it, producer your own tracks.
one could make the argument that because they're selling records on 12
Hi all,
A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
Mills of course)
Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
specific track from AX009 but I find it really
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?
Purpose Maker tracks don't fade in because they're dj tools. Axis tracks
sometimes
do fade in because they are music!
No Wibo, you're not thae only one! I only own one Mills record myself but
I've heard friends moaning about the fade in starts to some of Mills'
records. Wasn't there a post only yesterday that explained why he did this?
Is this a co-incidence? Am I going mad???
] Fade In Techno
Hi all,
A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
Mills of course)
Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
specific track from AX009 but I
just play the dj pierre mixes instead. they're some of my favourite tracks.
james
www.jbucknell.com
Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of Late Night, I can
remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
thus discovering a technical trait that I was use
hi wibo,
i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
of your mix.
drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
understood it.
robin...
A lot of the old records by Mills
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem with
selecting a more mixable
It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
fot DJ's.
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Van:
i've been here before on the global techno list.
to say that these records are not dj records is a little odd (soz kt), and
what has loops got to do with it? it doesn't matter whether you play loops
or not there is a natural structure to music that, if you follow it, will
make the mix sound
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem
with
selecting a more
:I'm not going mad, here it is ...
:
:Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of Late Night, I can
:remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
:thus discovering a technical trait that I was use on numerous tracks in my
:recording career. Tresor Records, Berlin
There was a thread on this subject last year on the g-tech list. Funnily
enough I used Axis 9 as an example of the merits of fade-ins rather than as a
negative. I've copied it over from the archives:
it can make a track for me.
Sometimes it can give an indication of the intended mood
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Subject: RE: [313] Fade In Techno
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start
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Subject: RE: [313] Fade In Techno
It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made
: RE: [313] Fade In Techno
It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
fot DJ's.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:43 PM
Subject: [313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno
Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis
records) that
really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would
just
start from 1 and not with a fade
, February 27, 2002 8:43 AM
Subject: [313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno
Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis
records) that
really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would
just
start from 1 and not with a fade in... And it's not only Mills I am
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