(313) Another version of Jaguar

2010-03-02 Thread Andy Mitchell
http://soundcloud.com/christianprommer/christian-prommer-jaguar I'm of the opinion that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Think I prefer the Hundred Birds version to this one though, anyway. Discuss...

Re: (313) Another version of Jaguar

2010-03-02 Thread David Powers
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Andy Mitchell a...@yokoso.co.nz wrote: http://soundcloud.com/christianprommer/christian-prommer-jaguar I'm of the opinion that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Think I prefer the Hundred Birds version to this one though, anyway. Discuss...

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-04-07 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 06/04/2008, at 3:10 AM, Christopher O'Grady wrote: Sebastien Leger - Jaguar (Original Mix) is #1 on beatport... *Original Mix ? UR is not mentioned. The artist field only shows Mr. Leger. *Scratches chin

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-04-07 Thread Todd Sines
PROTECTED] On 06/04/2008, at 3:10 AM, Christopher O'Grady wrote: Sebastien Leger - Jaguar (Original Mix) is #1 on beatport... *Original Mix ? UR is not mentioned. The artist field only shows Mr. Leger. *Scratches chin

RE: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-04-05 Thread Christopher O'Grady
Sebastien Leger - Jaguar (Original Mix) is #1 on beatport... *Original Mix ? UR is not mentioned. The artist field only shows Mr. Leger. *Scratches chin* Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-04-05 Thread Southern Outpost
taken from the Submerge site: Also recently we've recieved a rash of Jaguar bootleg sightings! but this time we are happy to report...Its all good. Sebastian Leger who has done a legal cover version of Jaguar not only called for permission but faced the scrutiny of the UR high

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-04-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
It's a cover. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 06/04/2008, at 3:10 AM, Christopher O'Grady wrote: Sebastien Leger - Jaguar (Original Mix) is #1 on beatport... *Original Mix ? UR is not mentioned. The artist field only shows Mr. Leger. *Scratches chin

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Richards
no need to pay attention. It is actually garbage-style. Derrick May still has the best remix of this track. --- Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds more like Oxia-style to me but I'm at work and not quite paying attention, so I might be way off.

(313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Sebastien Leger has done a cover of Jaguar with UR's blessing apparently. You can hear it on his myspace... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Linky? On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastien Leger has done a cover of Jaguar with UR's blessing apparently. You can hear it on his myspace... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt kane's brain [EMAIL

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread 1-11
http://www.myspace.com/sebastienleger - Original Message - From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar Linky? On Tue, Mar 11, 2008

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread robin
On 11 Mar 2008, at 16:50, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Linky? http://www.myspace.com/sebastienleger I think I'd say this was a little redundant. The original was so good, and is now so totally rinsed I'm not sure anyone would drop this. robin...

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:58 PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'd say this was a little redundant. The original was so good, and is now so totally rinsed I'm not sure anyone would drop this. there are so many good UR joints to try covering too, its not as if that is the only one

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread robin
On 11 Mar 2008, at 17:00, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:58 PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'd say this was a little redundant. The original was so good, and is now so totally rinsed I'm not sure anyone would drop this. there are so many good UR joints

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Cyclone Wehner
www.myspace.com/sebastienleger Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/03/2008, at 3:50 AM, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Linky? On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastien Leger has done a cover of Jaguar with UR's blessing

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I am surprised, I don't think Leger has a huge association with Detroit - he's highly critical of the French 'noise' sound electro- house but I am unsure if he's entirely extricated himself from it! Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/03/2008, at 3:58 AM,

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
totally redundant - doesn't bring anything new to the track just seems to be an exercise in damn, I wish I wrote that track proggy house DJs will drop it MEK robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/11/2008 11:58:37 AM: On 11 Mar 2008, at 16:50, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Linky?

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
It sounds more like Oxia-style to me but I'm at work and not quite paying attention, so I might be way off. On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am surprised, I don't think Leger has a huge association with Detroit - he's highly critical of the French

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Ben Watt doing it would've been cool. But he wouldn't. He is at least someone who seems to express a greater affinity to those kind of sensibilities. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/03/2008, at 4:00 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Tue, Mar 11,

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Carlos de Brito
Indeed. However I'd say that a truly adventurous version of it would be possible, robin... maybe like this guitar version from beige gt (2001)? http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=kuUC9WSDtO8 c*

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread robin
Umm, not really but at least there's an attempt at re-interpretation there. robin... maybe like this guitar version from beige gt (2001)? http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=kuUC9WSDtO8

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread jwan allen
Well after one listen I know it's not for me, but that's okay, I hope it sells a boatload thus adding more money to UR coffers so they can use that cash for new projects/represses for those that slept, etc. Big picture ppl! jw On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:16 PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread robin
Well after one listen I know it's not for me, but that's okay, I hope it sells a boatload thus adding more money to UR coffers so they can use that cash for new projects/represses for those that slept, etc. Big picture ppl! I accept that view. So is the original going on the b-side then? ;)

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread jwan allen
you should already have it:P On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well after one listen I know it's not for me, but that's okay, I hope it sells a boatload thus adding more money to UR coffers so they can use that cash for new projects/represses for those that

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
put your hands in the air in the air in the air ;-) I'd rather have people come to UR (and their sound) instead of UR having to go to the people who really don't give a sh*t about Detroit music (and reprogramming the tune so it's acceptable to prog house fans) MEK jwan allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Benoît Pueyo
robin a écrit : Umm, not really but at least there's an attempt at re-interpretation there. Here is more than an 'attempt' to me here : http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=G2EVa3rweT8 Famous one, i know ;o) -- Benoît. New email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nouvel email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Is Jaguar the most covered techno tune in the last fifteen years? MEK Benoît Pueyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/11/2008 04:05:30 PM: robin a écrit : Umm, not really but at least there's an attempt at re-interpretation there. Here is more than an 'attempt' to me here : http

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread robin
On 11 Mar 2008, at 21:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Jaguar the most covered techno tune in the last fifteen years? Gotta be that or Strings of Life. btw. That piano interpretation is at least a different take on it. robin...

Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar

2008-03-11 Thread Benoît Pueyo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Is Jaguar the most covered techno tune in the last fifteen years? MEK Just quoted that link on the topic, but you'd rather check that to have the idea of what was the initial concept of this artist (if u didnt know). http://www.discogs.com/release/549931 I

(313) Jaguar cover

2007-10-21 Thread Nik Stoltzman
What is it with covers of Detroit tracks in recent months? Just listening to last week's Gilles Peterson show and heard a white label cover of 'Jaguar' by 100 Birds from Japan. Don't know anything about them, but they've managed to make it even more disco! I am not sure I'd rush out and buy

Re: (313) Jaguar cover

2007-10-21 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 10/21/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is it with covers of Detroit tracks in recent months? Just listening to last week's Gilles Peterson show and heard a white label cover of 'Jaguar' by 100 Birds from Japan. Don't know anything about them, but they've managed to make

RE: (313) Jaguar cover

2007-10-21 Thread Nik Stoltzman
Heh heh. I dunno why but I just assumed it was a new release. Thanks for the info. OK... move along folks, nothing to see here :) N -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2007 20:22 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar cover

Re: (313) the post-jaguar era

2004-03-21 Thread Martin
002's quetzal does the jaguar knock off best actually. tom andythepooh.com

(313) the post-jaguar era

2004-03-19 Thread Maarten Baute
Dear people, after its initial release in 1999, a lot of records used sound fragments from jaguar. Also quite a few covers exist. From all the jaguar-sound-a-likes I think I heard one of the better today. It's a record from wave music artist D'Malicious and the record is titled The Last Song

Re: (313) the post-jaguar era

2004-03-19 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do think that after 1999 there was only one record that could match the anthemicness of jaguar. That record would be Los Hermanos 1, the birth of 3000. Anyone else shares this opinion? i

Re: (313) the post-jaguar era

2004-03-19 Thread Martin
hermanos 002's quetzal does the jaguar knock off best actually. tom andythepooh.com

Re: (313) theo parrish mix japanese jaguar men

2003-11-06 Thread alex . bond
bonjour bonjour. le mix de theo, c'est fantastique. deep merde : ) anyway, who's heard that WAVE promo, with that japanese orchestra version of Jaguar? it's weird anyone got it? au revoir. your continental techno friend, alex le bond

RE: (313) theo parrish mix japanese jaguar men

2003-11-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
I'm sure I heard that. Did Mills play it @ Homelands, UK? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2003 2:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) theo parrish mix japanese jaguar men bonjour bonjour. le mix de theo, c'est fantastique

RE: (313) theo parrish mix japanese jaguar men

2003-11-06 Thread alex . bond
. anyway, it's odd. I only flicked through it, but it was weird. I'm so feckin sick of that jaguar track anyway, maybe I ain't giving it the chance it deserves. _ - End of message text

RE: (313) theo parrish mix japanese jaguar men

2003-11-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Familiarity breeds contempt as they say. I still find myself dropping it regularly, though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2003 3:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) theo parrish mix japanese jaguar men Did Mills

(313) knights of the jaguar rip-off

2003-10-30 Thread kev
hey people i remember when aztec mystic originally came out, there was a major label rip-off version floating about at the time, but i never got to hear it.. anyone know anything about it, or have it?? just curious on ur thoughts.. and also feel i should start a new topic after my surgeon post!

Re: (313) knights of the jaguar rip-off

2003-10-30 Thread Roland van Oorschot
At 13:53 30-10-2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey people i remember when aztec mystic originally came out, there was a major label rip-off version floating about at the time, but i never got to hear it.. anyone know anything about it, or have it?? http://www.discogs.com/release/83357 (Let's

Re: (313) knights of the jaguar rip-off

2003-10-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
of the jaguar rip-off Please respond to kev

RE: (313) knights of the jaguar rip-off

2003-10-30 Thread Robert Taylor
I like the version Ladomat brought out - kind of a progrock version with guitars! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:37 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) knights of the jaguar rip-off If anyone

Re: (313) Jaguar - A Hundred Birds Remix

2003-10-11 Thread Maarten Baute
http://www.sonar.es/mp3/francoisk/fk12.m3u Thank you Mario for the link, but does anyone know how to play this file? When I open it in WinAmp v2.24 nothing happens. Maybe I need a certain plug-in or something? Thanks, Maarten

Re: (313) Jaguar - A Hundred Birds Remix

2003-10-11 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mario Atienza [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar - A Hundred Birds Remix http://www.sonar.es/mp3/francoisk/fk12.m3u Thank you Mario for the link

(313) A Hundred Birds - Jaguar

2003-10-11 Thread Hans Veneman
More samples here: http://www.wavemusic.com/wave-release/165 A Hundred Birds has recorded a live version of the much talked-about Jaguar by The Aztec Mystic (from the Knights of the Jaguar EP). Detroit Techno revisited with full live strings orchestra Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL

(313) Jaguar - A Hundred Birds Remix

2003-10-10 Thread Mario Atienza
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Re: (313) jaguar LIVE cover

2003-10-03 Thread alex . bond
passed along by a friend who was banned from 313 (ohh i hang with the bad element): J.T, report to me after school, I'm going to have to phone your parents about this. you're looking at a long stretch on 'report'. and I didn't know you can get 'banned'! who's the axeman??!!! big

Re: (313) jaguar LIVE cover

2003-10-03 Thread J. T.
and I didn't know you can get 'banned'! who's the axeman??!!! us... several people complained about the person who passed me the jaguar live info, because she stepped on their ego's or wasn't polite enough or something. she said some controversial stuff but iis a music biz insider and had

Re: (313) jaguar LIVE cover

2003-10-03 Thread alex . bond
where did stevepwats go...? ha ha! I was just thinking that as well.. it was fun when he was here.. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named

Re: (313) jaguar LIVE cover

2003-10-03 Thread robin
J. T. wrote: and I didn't know you can get 'banned'! who's the axeman??!!! us... several people complained about the person who passed me the jaguar live info, because she stepped on their ego's or wasn't polite enough or something. she said some controversial stuff but iis a music biz

(313) jaguar LIVE cover

2003-10-02 Thread J. T.
passed along by a friend who was banned from 313 (ohh i hang with the bad element): A Hundred Birds has recorded a live version of the much talked-about Jaguar by The Aztec Mystic (from the Knights of the Jaguar EP). Detroit Techno revisited by live strings orchestra http

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-06 Thread James Hurlbut
to hear a distinguished law professor admit that. At 09:56 AM 8/5/2003 +0100, Ryan Snowden wrote: Mark All as Read |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 05 August 2003 08:53 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-06 Thread Rc
i guess that's the same as many areas of law on 6/8/03 4:10 PM, James Hurlbut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently went to a talk by Stanford Law Professor and media critic Lawrence Lessig where he said that in terms of practical real world copyright law as it is being applied these

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Jernej Marusic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well from listening to this strings for a couple of times, I can tell that at the beginning they start the same as jaguar but than it gets different really quickly. Than at another point there's

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Matt MacQueen
and that they both sampled the same original track, just different parts and in different ways. Interesting theory. But I'd wager that the strings in Jaguar were PLAYED, and are not a sample to begin with. Esp. with that crazy solo at the end. peace, Matt MacQueen

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Matt MacQueen
entirely possible the strings are from an old song and that they both sampled the same original track, just different parts and in different ways. Interesting theory. But I'd wager that the strings in Jaguar were PLAYED, and are not a sample to begin with. Esp. with that crazy solo at the end

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:23 AM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? no one has mentioned the possibility that they both sampled strings from the same source

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
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Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread MM
so let me get all of this correct...according to everyone here on this list the general opinion is that UR and rolando sampled this TCOY track and did not make it them selfs.man with all of the bullshit that surrounded the jaguar you think someone else would have dug this up

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread KiDDy*RaVeR
williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Matt MacQueen
of the bullshit that surrounded the jaguar you think someone else would have dug this up if it was truebut its probably not true. the last time i was in detroit i talked with mike for a good long time like 7 hours...and its kinda funny we talked about the jaguar...and he never mentioned that he

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread KiDDy*RaVeR
Here's an excerpt of the sweet D track : http://www.kiddyraver.com/sweetd.ram Its close, but not the same either. - KiDD*e* - Original Message - From: KiDDy*RaVeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:08 AM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Uh what? I'm not sure what part of the song you think is close - the piano line, the synthesized string line? believe me, it's not close at all (legally speaking) if you're talking about the piano line - it's not close enough to warrant any discussion about it being similar to Jaguar. MEK

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Robin Howells
Hate to disagree, but it actually seems obvious to me that the Jaguar strings weren't sampled from this. For a start off, as I believe someone observed, there would need to be some sort of breakdown where the strings were unaccompanied. Not sure what's meant by 'cleaned up' here, but if you were

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Matt MacQueen
Michael, Nahhh. While I respect the levels that you have thought through all of this, all your analysis is based on the (weak, IMHO) assumption that Jaguar DOES sample that TCOY track, and I'm arguing that it *DOESN'T*. So everything else you conclude is based on that assumption, and it's

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread David Powers
Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? Damn where do I start with this - you need to learn a bit more about copyright issues, sampling and music law, and fair use: http://www.music-law.com/sampling.html There is also a rumor going around that you can use four notes of any song

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread David Powers
Ok I finally listened to this. The chance of Rolando ripping this off seems, to me, to be none. The ornament that begins both Jaguar and the other string part, is a CLICHÉ, easily found in many spanish sounding type songs, movie scores, mariachi trumpet parts, etc. Like I said just now, if we

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread MM
wait a minute.this is what i am saying .the jaguar is NOT sampled in my opinion, and everything i have figured out based on facts make me think that it has NOT been sampledits just my opinion if everyone wants to think that the Jaguar is sampled or copied ...let them think

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample... IMHO there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and use it in a track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] now after talking about it for a bit and realizing thati would find it REAL hard that it could be sampled knowing how important the record was to rolando thats all i am saying . now youre

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Matt MacQueen
I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample... IMHO there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and use it in a track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean enough version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it and make Jaguar

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Jari Tolkkinen
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar Doesn't the piano there sound just like SL2's Changing

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample... IMHO there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and use it in a track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean enough version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it and make

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread alex . bond
the jungle producer adam f replayed a big chuck of a bob james track (nautilus i think it was) and turned it into a jungle tune that got released on a major and AFAIK didnt get sample clearance. Hmm. I can't believe that - big labels are usually pretty weary of things like that - even if the

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Ryan Snowden
Mark All as Read |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 05 August 2003 08:53 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? | | | the jungle producer adam f replayed a big chuck of a bob james | track (nautilus i

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-05 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
Yes I remember them 'Tell me how it Feels' Mind you there were a couple of nice 'pop house' tracks on the first M-People record. Yes give the man a break he virtualy brought House Music to the Hacienda way back...and possibly opened many a door to the UK dance scene, expecially in the North

Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread Rc
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango? if so - the man's a genius rc on 5/8/03 8:03 PM, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I remember them 'Tell me how it Feels' Mind you there were a couple of nice 'pop house' tracks on the first M-People record. Yes

Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread robin pinning
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango? if so - the man's a genius i found this interesting: http://www.cerysmatic.clara.net/Factory/index.html?quando.html and this: http://www.discogs.com/~hillegonda robin...

RE: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
) Goldie and many others So yes the man has paid his dues and still dj/produces maybe. -Original Message- From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 August 2003 11:12 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango? if so - the man's a genius

Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread alex . bond
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango? if so - the man's a genius yes, and I forgot to mention that! not sure if he played sax or actually did production/writing. also, did he have something to do with section 25 maybe as well? but I'm not sure of that. Maybe that was just a collaboration?

Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread robin pinning
thinking about it why the hell are we on a 313 list when we should be on a 0161 list :) robin... ps. listening to a greg wilson mix from 83 that backs the above statement up too Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango? if so - the man's a genius yes, and I forgot to mention that! not

Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread alex . bond
thinking about it why the hell are we on a 313 list when we should be on a 0161 list heh! because a) everyone would be bitchin about each other! he's a joker, he's a one track wonder, he wouldn't know a good track if it poked him in the eye! their records are always too fast, they got no soul

Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread robin pinning
thinking about it why the hell are we on a 313 list when we should be on a 0161 list heh! because a) everyone would be bitchin about each other! he's a joker, he's a one track wonder, he wouldn't know a good track if it poked him in the eye! their records are always too fast, they got no

(313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Kent williams
My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar

RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Christian Bloch
said, Knights of the Jaguar is obviously a much better track, with much better strings. Christian Bloch http://christianbloch.com

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
(Knights of the Jaguar) and ID them as being used in a source song (the 80s track - what is the title of it by the way?). If this wasn't the case I could lift the bassline from Michael Jackson's Billy Jean and get away with it AND nobody would know where the bassline is from. Which I highly doubt

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread ::P
: RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? I agree totally :) -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2003 19:03 To: '313 list' Subject: RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? |-Original Message- |From: Klaas-Jan

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread stewart
) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? I think most musicologists would argue the opposite Ken - those string lines aren't generic, because they are recognizable parts of another song - the 80s track - and they do not depend on context for distinctiveness - because you can recognize those

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:48 PM Subject: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 20:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. Oh sure but i think that it so more a coincident, i once got accused by someone for copying

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread David Powers
Do the strings appear by themselves in the original house tune? _Dave -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:37:28 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think most musicologists

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in. This more than sounds a lot like it - the strings in Jaguar clearly is a sample of that track with maybe a tempo change (and maybe extra accompaniment

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Andrew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in. This more than sounds a lot like

Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-04 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 4 Aug 2003 about following: most likely get sued in turn if Eric B Rakim knew about it. So, I'm sure the producer of Carino, if they are alive still, are keeping real quiet and it's mike pickering if my memory serves right. (better known also as part of

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