Laurie Griffiths said -
Muse uses ; to include fingering hints in ABC.
i.e. a3;4 means play the a on the 4th string (probably
at the 12th fret for guitar).
Great idea. I might use this for cross fingering on English concertina and
perhaps I could adapt it to indicate forked F on the oboe.
I
Hello,
I use w: lines to include extra information with the notes and I use the
guitar chord signs too (pos.1 is about the position of the crank
and the numbers represent the fingers of the left hand 4=little
1=index). To use w: for the fingering makes sense for my purpose
because normally
Hello,
Anselm Lingnau wrote:
Bryan Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Great idea. I might use this for cross fingering on English concertina and
perhaps I could adapt it to indicate forked F on the oboe.
I expect lots of other people could come up with ideas for how to use it for
their
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Laurie Griffiths said -
Muse uses ; to include fingering hints in ABC. i.e. a3;4
means play the a on the 4th string (probably at the 12th fret for
guitar). Great ide
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Simon Wascher wrote:
Anselm Lingnau wrote:
That's right, but then when you receive an ABC file you need a way to
figure out (...) We would
probably need to put in a header saying
%%fingering concertina
or some such, and software might have the option of
Subject: Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software
Phil Taylor writes:
| Laurie wrote:
|
| For consistency, terminate all the fields in the header with ! Line ends
| are then logically optional, but omitting them should be deprecated (on
the
| grounds of readability for humans).
|
| It would have been
Wendy said
...So even if we adopt the
abc2win approach to staff termination (not a bad idea), we don't even
start to solve the problems with line wrapping.
But hang on. We're not trying to solve all the problems in the world. Just
the problems in ABC line wrapping. So how about this:
Laurie Griffiths wrote:
For consistency, terminate all the fields in the header with ! Line ends
are then logically optional, but omitting them should be deprecated (on the
grounds of readability for humans).
snip
X:23!
T:Bang!
K:C#!
C#dim[^CEG_B^c]!!
What about
U:s=!D.S.!
U:O=!coda!
Laurie wrote:
For consistency, terminate all the fields in the header with ! Line ends
are then logically optional, but omitting them should be deprecated (on the
grounds of readability for humans).
It would have been nice to have something like this from the start, but
introducing it now
Phil Taylor writes:
| Laurie wrote:
|
| For consistency, terminate all the fields in the header with ! Line ends
| are then logically optional, but omitting them should be deprecated (on the
| grounds of readability for humans).
|
| It would have been nice to have something like this from the
Bryan Creer wrote:
Yes, it is true that www.irishnet.com makes a bit of a pigs ear of the
individually displayed tunes but I downloaded the whole collection and it
only gave me one significant problem, an M: 6/8 command imbedded in the tune.
There shouldn't be a space after the :. So
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 04:34, Frank Nordberg wrote:
Do you mean poor John is supposed to offer free personal tutoring to
anybody who wants to write ABC? John has given a lot of good advice on
the subject both here at abcusers and on his web site, so I don't think
you should criticize him
Frank Nordberg said -
Hi Bryan - I had begun to wonder if you were on a vacation trip or something.
Hi Frank- no, but after Phil Taylor's descent into puerile personal abuse and
the subsequent failure of anyone else to tick him off for breach of etiquette
I decided I'd had enough for a while
Phil Taylor says -
Does ABCcheck report a space in the M: field as an error?
No it doesn't. This is a specific problem to do with abc2win (so it will
give you another stick to beat it with.)
The problem was not with ABCcheck but with abc2nwc. abc2win allows inline
commands just by plonking
Just to get this one out of the way...
John Chambers says -
This is presumably the source of his use of the term "hypocrisy".
I've just done a quick check and I can't find the term "hypocrisy" in any
posting of mine I've still got on file (and I don't tidy up very often). I
didn't actually
On Monday 18 June 2001 12:19, Frank Nordberg wrote:
Sorry Steve, your way behind modern times too. Fact is, we already have
perfectly good (or so the ads say) ways to get computers to compose and
play the music without any subjective and emotional human interference
at all.
Yeah, seems your
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 10:03, John Chambers wrote:
The biggest single problem is the damage caused by email line
wrapping. This isn't caused by any single program. It's a systemic
problem caused by many of the email packages that have been released
in recent years. This isn't
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 10:03, John Chambers wrote:
The biggest single problem is the damage caused by email line
wrapping. This isn't caused by any single program. It's a systemic
problem caused by many of the email packages that have been released
in recent years. This isn't
Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Steve Mansfield wrote:
But at the end of the day if your OS of choice supports the creation of
ASCII characters in a file you've got all the tools you need to generate
abc.
Mmm. But the ability to do something with it is nice,
I had planned to watch this thread for a while before adding my thoughts but
now there is so much to respond to that it's hard to know where to start so
here are a few random hits -
John Chambers said -
Just a few days ago, I was asked why www.irishtunes.net isn't very
well represented in
On Friday 15 June 2001 11:20, Phil Taylor wrote:
I could equally claim that BarFly is the de facto standard on the grounds
that it runs on the platform which is the de facto standard for music
production
I didn't know BarFly ran on Linux :-)
--
Atte
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Atte writes:
| On Friday 15 June 2001 11:20, Phil Taylor wrote:
| I could equally claim that BarFly is the de facto standard on the grounds
| that it runs on the platform which is the de facto standard for music
| production
|
| I didn't know BarFly ran on Linux :-)
Maybe it doesn't now, but
John Chambers wrote:
One of my favorite test cases for music software is the tune at:
http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_D.abc
http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_E.abc
Nice one :-)
I made a quick Finale file out of the first one.
Frank Nordberg writes:
| John Chambers wrote:
| One of my favorite test cases for music software is the tune at:
|
| http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_D.abc
| http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_E.abc
|
| Nice one :-)
Yeah; it's a
I guess you must be an abc2win user then Gianni?
As we both know - as anybody else on this list, for the matter! -
ABC2WIN is de facto the standard as far as the abc notation is
employed on the web, both as far as the mailing list and a number of
the abc collections of tunes available for
Phil Taylor writes:
| I have over 10,000 tunes on my machine, downloaded from all over the web,
| and less than 5% of them have exclamation marks at the ends of the lines.
Some time ago, I had my tune finder's search bot tell me statistics
about such things, and my numbers were about the
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Jack Campin wrote:
My understanding of the ab construct is
that it is specially for hornpipes
Your understanding is wrong.
Hornpipes don't need any such notation. They are often written in even
length notes with the context telling the user to swing them; in ABC,
Richard Robinson wrote:
| On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Jack Campin wrote:
| My understanding of the ab construct is
| that it is specially for hornpipes
|
| Your understanding is wrong.
|
| Hornpipes don't need any such notation. They are often written in even
| length notes with the context
Depending on the specific hornpipe, the ratio of a hornpipe's small
notes can range from 3:2 to 3:1. A 2:1 ratio is the most common, of
course, which is why some people say that hornpipes should be written
in 12/8 or 12/16 rather than 4/4. It could be useful if a midi
generator
John Chambers wrote:
Of course, to be really useful, you'd need more information than is
in the R line. I've thought occasionally that it might be interesting
to start a discussion of something like a %%MIDI line that gives
information about how to adjust the rhythm. Even with hornpipes,
On 13/06/01 at 0.20 John Chambers wrote:
Gianni Cunich writes:
| Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi
behaviour...so bored I actually felt sick!
...
| The real problem, IMO, is a totally different one: is there anybody
who actually cares about the respect
On Tue 12 Jun 2001 at 09:29PM +0200, Gianni Cunich wrote:
Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi
behaviour...so bored I actually felt sick!
The problem about the way abc2midi handles the broken rythms shortcut is that it
actually playes (and save as midi)
James == James Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
James My understanding of the ab construct is that it is
James specially for hornpipes and so you can use it for a 2:1
James ratio if that is what you want elsewhere. If you want 3:1,
James then you can write a3/2b/2.
The
I'm assuming your tongue is firmly in cheek here, but a couple of things
are useful to mention:
- traditional tunes are often notated differently than they are played.
Hornpipes are a good example, since they can be written straight and
played dotted (Note: I am not talking about abc, just about
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, James Allwright wrote:
I have to disagree strongly here. My understanding of the ab construct is
that it is specially for hornpipes and so you can use it for a 2:1 ratio
if that is what you want elsewhere. If you want 3:1, then you can write
a3/2b/2.
My understanding
Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi behaviour...so
bored I actually felt sick!
The problem about the way abc2midi handles the broken rythms shortcut is that it
actually playes (and save as midi) any beat using the symbol as a triplet, even
if in the R:
Gianni Cunich writes:
| Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi
|behaviour...so bored I actually felt sick!
...
| The real problem, IMO, is a totally different one: is there anybody who actually
|cares about the respect of the standard anymore?
|
| I assume the
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