Re: [AFMUG] coordinated power - licensed link

Yes. You need to be able to set your maximum power at each modulation level. > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:00 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > So when I see the following, I use the "coordinated" power from this section > to set maximum ATPC power, 26 in this case > >

Re: [AFMUG] coordinated power - licensed link

Your maximum power levels should be set to the levels for each modulation step that are listed on the attached Adaptive Modulation Data Sheet. In the example below, the coordinator has used the ATPC “coordinated power” advantage to clear interference into another user. The “coordinated power” wh

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

So you’re OK with a device that essentially does a man-in-the-middle attack on your managed router, using ARP spoofing to pretend to be the router, rerouting traffic multiple times across the WiFi network? I’m trending toward the position that I won’t troubleshoot LAN issues or manage the route

[AFMUG] Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASXJgvy3mEg (YouTube video of NLnog presentation) https://nlnog.net/static/live/nlnog_live_sep_2020_jared.pdf (slides for presentation) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24424910#24430901 (discussion on Hacker News with J

[AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

Yo Forrest, Do you have any plans on upgrading the Ethernet ports on the Site Monitors to 100 base? My mikrotiks don't really like the 10half stuff. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

All of my Mikrotiks have been flawless with 10hdx. Sometimes being part of a switch can really bog it down, though. I'd like to see 100 fdx as well but I don't know what that all entails. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

Sounds like a MikroTik issue. On 9/10/20 11:07 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: Yo Forrest, Do you have any plans on upgrading the Ethernet ports on the Site Monitors to 100 base? My mikrotiks don't really like the 10half stuff. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.c

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I have found that the db loss on fusion splices to be wildly optimistic. It may say .02 dB but in reality be .1 They just guess at it based on the look of the fiber. The old first generation splicers actually injected a signal and read the splice loss. -Original Message- From: fiber.

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I've been told (By a vendor pushing SOC's) that the index matching gel in mechanical connectors will break down over time and add attenuation. I've been told (By a vendor pushing mechanical connectors) that yes that's technically true, but it takes decades. Just one more data point I guess.

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

We have 8000 deployed in one area. Over 10 years and no problems. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:18 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution I've been told (By a vendor pushing SOC's) that the index matching gel in mechan

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I've been told by my CRM system that my techs must not be too good with mechanical connectors because support cases for fiber issues in buildings where we used them are more than double. On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:19 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I've been told (By a vendor pushing SOC's) that the in

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I suppose if you screw up the fusion splice you'll see it on the camera.  If you screwed up the mechanical splice you might not know unless you shoot it with the OTDR. On 9/10/2020 11:22 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: I've been told by my CRM system that my techs must not be too good with mechanica

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I presume they are cleaving the fiber? From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:22 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution I've been told by my CRM system that my techs must not be too good with mechanical connectors because support cases for fi

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Power meter is fast cheap and easy. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:25 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution I suppose if you screw up the fusion splice you'll see it on the camera. If you screwed up the mechanical splice you might not know unless y

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

Is it a plan if it's already done? (The Base 3 does 10/100) I've been holding out on making a lot of nose about it until the firmware I'm just finishing up which supports most recent add on modules gets released. Hopefully next week sometime. But the hardware has been shipping for a while now,

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I guess I'm only left with a notion in my head that melting the glass together just seems like it ought to be better than butting the ends together.  Plus the process has "fusion" in it's name and that sound badass.  Like stand back Mr Customer, there's fusion going on over here and you don't h

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

I don't think I've seen any problems, what kind are you seeing? FWIW, Rackinjector is 10/100. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Sam Lambie Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packe

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

Once or twice I've had to force a port to 10meg. On 9/10/2020 11:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don't think I've seen any problems, what kind are you seeing? FWIW, Rackinjector is 10/100. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:14 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

We have used pigtails fusion spliced at the customer end.Didn’t have much luck with mechanicals, mostly because we struggled with getting them to work reliably at the office. The Sumitomo Quantum Handheld fusion splicer isn’t real expensive and works very well. We have had few issues wi

[AFMUG] SAS SSDs

I'm looking to add SSDs into one of my HP G8 Servers. I've always just replaced the spinning disks with the same model when I've had drive failures. Can you just put a regular SATA SSD into a G8 server, or are there special SAS SSD's that you need to use? What SSD's are better for server app

Re: [AFMUG] SAS SSDs

SATA disk can go into SAS interface, but not the other way around. Apparently SAS has the entire SATA command set, but then is extended with SCSI commands. Hence the compatibility in one direction only. On 9/10/2020 11:42 AM, Nate Burke wrote: I'm looking to add SSDs into one of my HP G8 Serv

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Issue isn't generally the cleave, rather getting them to get the buffer stripped to the exact right dimensions. If it is pretty close it can have good performance but doesn't get locked in place correctly and then it gets displaced slightly a few weeks later and we need to roll a truck again. I g

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Re: fusion splice losses, is the first the loss reported by the fusion splicer and the latter a measured value? Do you measure with light source and power meter or bidirectional OTDR? One way OTDR shots are only an estimate and may report incorrect loss values for splices. Even at 0.1 dB fusio

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

On 9/10/20 08:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote: As far as testing - plug in the OLT and see what the reported signal levels are.   Compare them with the acceptable levels and the number on the other customers on that ONT port.    If signals out of line first clean the connectors, then break out the o

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I have equipment to do bidi, olts anything someone may want. Power meter is the only way to really know your span loss. With my better splicers we can see the quality of the cleave and the fiber itself. None of the splicers measure the loss anymore, they use some kind of graphic image algorithm

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I have mixed emotions about 1 km launch cables. Most splicers these days have a dead zone that is in the range of 1 meter. I have a 3 meter launch cable and it makes it really easy to dilineate C.O. connector and splice loss vs anything else. If I had a 1 km cable then a C.O. connector or sp

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

FWIW I think you have an issue with the fiber mounting. The "Ground Lug" is supposed to hold the Fiberglass strength members from the drop cable. This helps keep the cable from getting pistoned in or pulling out. The copper line on the drop cable is a tracer and should not be connected to anything

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I think the manufacturer recommends a certain length of launch cable to get the most out of their product. I'd use whatever they recommend. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

So, Chuck, you are using a power meter to determine that fusion splices reported as 0.02 dB are actually 0.1 dB? That's really impressive if you are measuring from CO to the subscriber. Not only will your documentation have to be perfectly accurate correctly reflecting each span length, the 2%

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

It is an old industry thing that you need 1 km cables and may test specs just boilerplate that into the spec. Back when semiconductors were much slower, in the days when OTDRs were invented, I am sure deadzones were that large. My Inno OTDR has a dead zone of 80 cm. My Viavis have a dead zone

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Sometimes. Yeah, that 844 reports it to 4 decimal places and it says "-17." On my main cables I am pretty anal. I have 576 strands leaving the C.O. I really want every splice perfect if I can get it now so when the day comes that we actually use the strand there will be no issues. I am

[AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups. Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt humanity. All I got out of Facebook so far with this questions is idiots mansplaining hack about things I already know. Anywho: If you know of a product that exists that f

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Our unit has a built in 100m launch cable, but even so It’s always a little difficult to see what’s happening in a 1M section of cable where there is both a coupler and a splice. Mark > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:31 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I have mixed emotions about 1 km launch cables. Mo

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Make sure you are measuring the proper wavelengths, and that you look at both the transmit and return power values. You can fool yourself on loss by testing at one frequency and then looking at the different frequencies reported by the OLT/ONT. Mark > On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

Well that works :) Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:36 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Is it a plan if it's already done? (The Base 3 does 10/100) > > I've bee

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

On 9/10/20 09:51, Mike Hammett wrote: I think the manufacturer recommends a certain length of launch cable to get the most out of their product. I'd use whatever they recommend. Yeah there's a bunch of different sizes in nice little containers. Any decent OTDR I've used can zoom in nicely no

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Not sure you will find an auto transfer. But a $10 contractor will do the job, Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > >  > I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebook groups. > Sometimes people are just so lazy it makes me doubt hum

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Exactly Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > Our unit has a built in 100m launch cable, but even so It’s always a little > difficult to see what’s happening in a 1M section of cable where there is > both a coupler and a splice. > > Mark > >> On Sep

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I think if your cable has any metallic component you're supposed to ground it.  I don't think there's any distinction made as to whether it's a toning wire, armor, or what have you. I'd clamp the FRP strength members if there's a way provided to do it though. On 9/10/2020 12:51 PM, Louis Ar

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Yeah, yeah. I guess next best thing is to add an outdoor rated reverse twistlock 20A plug to the side of the cabinet and use an internal solution for the automatic transfer part. I’ll go start perusing the RV/Yachting pages for that. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, Septembe

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

What about gig? ;-) Some SFP devices don't work well (or at all) with sub-1G devices. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave U

[AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

I don't normally do Mikrotik Wireless, but I inherited a DynaDish 5 link.  It's at -66 RSSI on each end, 80mhz channel size. The physical rate is shown as 390Mbps in both directions, but actual downstream throughput seems to vary from 90-97Mbps.  Is this normal for the product?  Is there some

Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

80Mhz wide? No interference? What's your SNR? On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 11:52 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I don't normally do Mikrotik Wireless, but I inherited a DynaDish 5 > link. It's at -66 RSSI on each end, 80mhz channel size. > > The physical rate is shown as 390Mbps in both directions, but actu

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

You’re sounding like a customer. My WiFi garage door opener needs gigabit speed, it’s lagging. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor. What about

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

heh ,my question is nothing about the speed, but if it works at all. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, September 1

Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

This is in the back woods. SNR is reported as 39db.  Whether we believe that's accurate is possibly up for debate, but the physical rate stays pretty consistently at 390Mbps and CCQ stays above 90%. I'm not sure what wall I'm hitting on real throughput though. CPU only gets to 25% or so during

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

Yeah the copper SFP's seem fussy to me too, if that's what you're referring to. On 9/10/2020 1:59 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: heh ,my question is nothing about the speed, but if it works at all. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C $36.50 Already in a box. https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Electronmagnetic-Relay/dp/B07FCJFGL9/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=120v+relay&qid=1599760852&sr=8-19 $29.36 Or a pair of simple contactors wired up

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

The copper line is for toning and yes, you do want to ground it. We will be grounding it. Else you can’t tone it if you put the tone on at the HH. Good idea on clamping the strength members but I am not going to put them in the ground connector. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, September

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

Why not just equip it with an SFP, then you can go all the way to 100G. bp On 9/10/2020 10:59 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: heh ,my question is nothing about the speed, but if it works at all.

[AFMUG] OT - Internet way faster but can still pretend to freeze

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2020/09/10 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

But what is that ground connector grounded to? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:03 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution The copper line is for toning and yes, you do want to ground it. We will be grounding it. Else you can’t t

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Sh On 9/10/2020 2:07 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: But what is that ground connector grounded to? *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:03 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My solution The copper line is for toning and yes, you do want to

Re: [AFMUG] 10Half Ethernet on Packetflux Site Monitor.

*nods* Some copper SFPs are 1G-only. Some copper SFPs are 10/100/1000, but still need the switch port to support 10/100/1000. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: a

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Power ground. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:07 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution But what is that ground connector grounded to? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:03 PM To: af@af.afm

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

A cable shield or tone wire is a path for lightning to enter the prem. So it has to be grounded. Supposed to be big fat #6 or something crazy like that. But I figure no need to use a wire larger than the tone wire itself. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:20 PM T

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Ok cute. So you plug your portable generator into the "Inverter" side of this switch? And I imagine then you can leave the generator there and let it flip back to utility power on its own.  Is that the idea? On 9/10/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Kisae TS-20.  Available from Inverter Supp

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Try searching for ’static transfer switch’ in Google. There are a number of them available, including 1U designs for single input AC gear where you have A/B power. Mark > On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > I should have just asked this here first instead of the Facebo

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

I didn’t see the ground wire in Chuck’s photo. There’s no active electronics in that box, right? Somehow grounding the cable to the electrical power ground seems to eliminate one of the advantages of fiber. But “code” aside, I’d feel better keeping that underground lightning outside and gr

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Yes, that's the idea. When the generator runs out of fuel, the transfer switch automatically switches back to commercial power (assuming it's back on) and you can go retrieve the generator at your convenience. Actually I stole most of this idea from Nate Burke. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Ribbon splices are bound to have higher losses than singles, as ribbon splicers are cladding aligned, not core aligned. Have you run a bi-directional OTDR trace on the problem splices to get an accurate measurement of loss? A one way OTDR trace may over or understate the real loss. Jared > S

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

On 9/10/20 11:43, Ken Hohhof wrote: I didn’t see the ground wire in Chuck’s photo.  There’s no active electronics in that box, right? Somehow grounding the cable to the electrical power ground seems to eliminate one of the advantages of fiber.  But “code” aside, I’d feel better keeping that u

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Great, thanks for the intelligent and useful feedback everyone! From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wir

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

That would surprise me.  A fallen power line or other mishap could energize metallic components, whether it's sharing a conduit or not doesn't seem relevant.  Every aerial splice enclosure has ground lugs, and there's not typically a conduit on aerial. As far as I'm aware, the NEC only require

Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

Friend of mine who is a wisp had a similar situationturned out he had switch port at one end set to 100mbps...once he switch it to 1000mbps everything was honky dory... Maybe something like that? On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 12:01 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > This is in the back woods. SNR is reported

Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

good thought, but we've been down that road already. every port in the path is gig. On 9/10/2020 3:19 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Friend of mine who is a wisp had a similar situationturned out he had switch port at one end set to 100mbps...once he switch it to 1000mbps everything was honky do

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

Because if lightning hits it it all just turns into a fuse... On 09/10/2020 11:22 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: A cable shield or tone wire is a path for lightning to enter the prem. So it has to be grounded. Supposed to be big fat #6 or something crazy like that. But I figure no need to use

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

We're using this one. It's only 15A, but works fantastic. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004S5Y158/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1  Jesse DuPont

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

I wouldn't have thought of that. Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil? On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300VAC-DPDT/dp/B008HOQZ8C $36.50  Already in a box. https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-JQX-62F-2Z-Voltage-Elec

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

No, I don’t think so. Some are. You want to avoid the ones that won’t switch off commercial power until it drops below something like 80 V. Those are fine for boats and RVs to switch between shore power and an inverter, because the commercial power is either there or it isn’t. But at our

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

It is not there yet. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > I didn’t see the ground wire in Chuck’s photo. There’s no active electronics > in that box, right? > > Somehow grounding the cable to the electrical power ground seems to eliminate > one of t

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Yep Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >  > I wouldn't have thought of that. > > Are all transfer switches just relays with an ac powered coil? > > > > On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> https://www.amazon.com/Enclosed-Pre-Wired-Relay-300

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Most transfer switches are latching relays - the coil is only used to switch them from one state to the other. A latching relay does not require power to stay in a given position. A really simple solution is a contactor (heavy duty relay) with the utility power wired to the coil to hold the r

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

The Prowatt will favor one over the other. I have my AC main going to the favored port. When utility comes on it takes over the the generator is allowed to run out of fuel. The generators input comes from an outlet on the outside of the cabinet. On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 13:54 Jason Wilson wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

I second these, theyre cheap and easy, we hardwire them and w put plugs on them for portable generator https://www.donrowe.com/PowerMax-PMTS-30-Automatic-Transfer-Switch-p/pmts-30.htm?gclid=CjwKCAjwnef6BRAgEiwAgv8mQaUjgbYD-kBNWyQY1A83bEBWIRL_gUbsiEjIUIjvHPtghoAPRLqo-RoC0EYQAvD_BwE this one has mor

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

thats what we do, it amazes me how hard male receptacles are to find at electrical supply houses, they tell you they dont exist, i think leviton must make the only one On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:54 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Kisae TS-20. Available from Inverter Supply. > > > > Buy a small NEMA4 box

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZDMY46/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_TDvFvChYWMDGb I went to 30 amp plugs. No one will steal your extension cords. I make all of mine. On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 14:49 Steve Jones wrote: > thats what we do, it amazes me how hard male receptacles are to find at > electrical supply

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-15-Amp-125-Volt-Straight-Blade-Grounding-Power-Inlet-Outlet-Gray-001-05278-CWP/301304898 Not in stores, I had it shipped. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 5:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AF

[AFMUG] OT some notes from a newbe splicer

I have always been the boss of the fiber splicers. I was a copper splicer when young and was proud of my ability to average 100 pair/hour. But other than sales demos and a few training burns I have never done much. So last week I jumped in to splice some central office entrance cables. This c

[AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

Definitely one of my fantasy girls as a youth. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79F8nxncozQ On 9/10/2020 6:52 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Definitely one of my fantasy girls as a youth. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

Yepeasy on the eyes On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 5:57 PM Nate Burke wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79F8nxncozQ > > On 9/10/2020 6:52 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Definitely one of my fantasy girls as a youth. > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/l

Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idtYckLIZnI&frags=wn&ab_channel=Hepburned From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79F8nxncozQ On 9/10/2020 6:52 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wr

Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

One time I was in a hot tub with her and Natalie Wood. My girlfriend Morgan Fairchild got pissed. Great day... I think... could have been the shrooms... From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

Pick your poison. https://www.google.com/search?q=hubbell+ac+power+inlet+plug&sxsrf=ALeKk01FfJyufjwy1kWj2hrKghX56PWxqw:1599791467113&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimnPLQh-DrAhVVvZ4KHSopAA8Q_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1593&bih=1008 bp On 9/10/2020 4:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote

Re: [AFMUG] OT some notes from a newbe splicer

The SARS-COV-2 will contaminate the splice every time. bp On 9/10/2020 4:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Don’t blow on anything with your mouth.  Use a bulb syringe or canned air.  No matter how careful you will blow, microscope particles of spit onto things. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

I worked with a guy back in the day that had this major thing about her. it was almost creepy the way he would talk about her. I wondered how he managed that after he got married... bp On 9/10/2020 4:52 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT some notes from a newbe splicer

I've never had much luck with just stripping the 900 fiber, I always have to use alcohol. On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 6:47 PM wrote: > I have always been the boss of the fiber splicers. I was a copper splicer > when young and was proud of my ability to average 100 pair/hour. > But other than sales