Talk to Chuck Hogg :)
- Original Message -
From: Matt Hoppes
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
You haven't offered enough :) Everyone sells for the right price
WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
*From: *"Matt Hoppes"
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users
die hard. Some people drive new cars but still pump the gas 3 times
before starting the engine.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:59 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
On 10/23/19 6:59 AM, Adam
I mean... I can still dial on my touch tone phone by lifting and hanging
up the receiver very quickly.
On 10/23/19 3:59 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:59 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I only disagree with the statement that you won't deploy until you can
run only one stack. Did you keep
On 10/23/19 6:59 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I only disagree with the statement that you won't deploy until you can
run only one stack. Did you keep faxing until everybody else had email?
Not everyone keeps up with technology. My grandmother held on to rotary
pulse dial phones until touch
www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> >>>
>> >>>
&g
t; 2-3
> >>> >> years, I have given it an extra year for measure!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> V6 should be deployed NOW. Not later, when you HAVE TO. Then
> >>> >> you will be making mistakes etc.
> >>
r.com/mdwestix>
>>>>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>&g
https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>
>>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes"
>>> *T
www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
*From: *"Matt Hoppes"
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
Prices for IPv4 on the secondary market continue to rise... that doesn't sound
like a commodity that's on its way out.. that sounds like something that's very
much alive and in demand.
On 10/23/19 11:54 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Not a penny wise, but definitely
IPv6 seems like religion and politics, discussion doesn't seem to accomplish
much.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
Prices
sp>
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
*From: *"Matt Hoppes"
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
*Sent: *Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:01:22 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Buying new
23, 2019 8:01:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
FUD ALERT! FUD ALERT! IPv4 is not going away any time soon, it's not
practical. There are too many things that rely on IPv4. And until
I can run only one stack I'm not planning to mass deploy IPv6. We have
an IPv6 deployment plan,
http://www.linktechs.net
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>
>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
<http://www.towercoverage.com>
>>>> <http://www.towercoverage.com>
>>
of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>>>
>>>> *Link Technologies, Inc*-- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>>
>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/&
; *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>
>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
<http://www.towercoverage.com>
>>>> <http://www.towe
m
> >>>> ePMP Certified *
> >>>>
> >>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
> >>>>
> >>>> *Link Technologies, Inc*-- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> >>>>
> >>&g
w.linktechs.net
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>
>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
<http://www.towercoverage.com>
>>>> <http://www.towercoverage.com>
>>>>
rtified Trainer
> >>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium
> >>>> ePMP Certified *
> >>>>
> >>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
> >>>>
> >>>>
.com
<http://www.towercoverage.com>
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
NA
horized organizations or individuals is strictly*
> *prohibited.*
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 12:52 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
>
>
>
> Where is the best place
I sympathize on the financial points. Right now the only benefit is if
you /didn't /have to spend extra money to buy IPv4 space. If you've got
the IPv4 space you need, then there's literally no money in IPv6. I
first got involved in IPv6 for a new venture. They couldn't get IPv4
space at
wercoverage.com>
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
NAT problems with BGP are why
...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Will this be before or after they stop using x.25?
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 9:20 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
yeah, no.
.gov agencies still run dos
10 years at best til the ones that matter
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking
Yes,
Doing some trial runs with a smaller site we have.
Pretty cool..
On 10/21/19 1:42 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
If you're not doing it already, start thinking about dual stack with
IPv4 CGN and IPv6 public IPs. There's a learning curve, but it's not
that bad.
-Adam
On 10/21/2019 12:51
We managed to snag another /22 via the waiting list. It took about 10
months to get a response back but did get one eventually.
Better than spending another $25k that's for sure.
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 5:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> Doesn't seem so
Doesn't seem so long, oldest on the list is only 5 months old
https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 11:18 AM Steve Jones
wrote:
> last i heard it was 3 years
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:04 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
Keep in mind that IPv6 will be necessary within 2-4 years, if the .govs
shutdown access via v4 for security reasons. No more FCC/ IRS or any .GOV
unless over v6. Note that the current plan is 2-3 years, I have given it an
extra year for measure
So you think they can get ip6 to work on dos within 10 years? I bet it takes
them longer than that.
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 2:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
yeah
On 10/21/19 13:22, Adam Moffett wrote:
Exactly. Maybe 1/3 of networks have IPv6, but since the big boys are on
it there's a large volume of total traffic that'll run on v6.
There's more for sure, but those are the top three off the top of my
head people that people will go to first and
Exactly. Maybe 1/3 of networks have IPv6, but since the big boys are on
it there's a large volume of total traffic that'll run on v6.
IPv6 is immediately useful with Facebook, YouTube, Netflix. I believe
Xbox Live will use IPv6 but I don't know about PSN. Especially if
you've ever had to
On 10/21/19 12:06, Steve Jones wrote:
NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking for more IP space
IP6 is still years out for us
IPv6 is immediately useful with Facebook, YouTube, Netflix. I believe
Xbox Live will use IPv6 but I don't know about PSN. Especially if you've
ever had to deal
Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Us
wercoverage.com
*From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking for more IP space
IP6 is still years out for us
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:43
Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website:
http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/>
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying ne
NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking for more IP space
IP6 is still years out for us
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:43 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> If you're not doing it already, start thinking about dual stack with IPv4
> CGN and IPv6 public IPs. There's a learning curve, but it's not that
That’s what I’m thinking of migrating to real soon.
I need to find a secondary IPv6 upstream and a good block of maybe /22 IP’s
then call it good forever.
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 12:43 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
If you're not doing it already, start thinking about dual stack with
IPv4 CGN and IPv6 public IPs. There's a learning curve, but it's not
that bad.
-Adam
On 10/21/2019 12:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Where is the best place to get these? How do we verify space has a
decent reputation so we
last i heard it was 3 years
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:04 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> ARIN apparently has a Waitlist for smaller sized blocks that they are
> working through as they discover blocks which have no valid ownership.
>
> Dont know how long the
ARIN apparently has a Waitlist for smaller sized blocks that they are
working through as they discover blocks which have no valid ownership.
Dont know how long the Waitlist is or what sized blocks (I think someone
said /22s)
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 10:53 AM Steve Jones
wrote:
> Where is the best
review,
dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by
unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
prohibited.
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 12:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
Where
Where is the best place to get these? How do we verify space has a decent
reputation so we dont go through months of cleanup and all that stuff?
--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
44 matches
Mail list logo
