[AFMUG] Looking for pair of mimo 2.4 antennas

2016-06-07 Thread David
I am looking to buy a used (or new) pair of 2.4ghz mimo antennas. For use with the AF-2X. Will be a short shot, and the 24dBi rocket dish's are just too big! Looking for something close to 18 dBi. Can be a directional panel or a dish. Thanks. -- David Kunat

Re: [AFMUG] hello from Meaux France

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Looks like the southern hemisphere, everything is upside down. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:42 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] hello from Meaux France

Re: [AFMUG] hello from Meaux France

2016-06-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Say hi to my kid On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:37 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Looks like the southern hemisphere, everything is upside down. > > > *From:* Gino Villarini > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:42 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello from Meaux France > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio

2016-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I get 51 OTA channels where I live. There are an infinite number of online, OTT etc sources available. It makes an excellent box for Netflix, Hulu etc. It is a good DVR. From: Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio So how many

Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio

2016-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I know you can run it as whole house DVR. Not sure if it is the mini or what that you use for the other locations. I don’t believe there is any extra fee, but have not got that far yet. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 12:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TIV

[AFMUG] Fiber Drop Cable

2016-06-07 Thread Matt
Looking for inexpensive 2 - 6 fiber direct burial drop fiber with tracer wire. 1K - 6K foot or so.

Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio

2016-06-07 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I didn't see where you had to pay for the mini's in terms of a subscription... I would probably jump all over this if I felt I'd actually use it... lol If you find CNBC, could i set, say, the tivo to record say, mad money, at a certain time via streaming? - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio

2016-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
It will record 4 different real time programs simultaneously. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio I didn't see where you had to pay for the mini's in terms of a subscription... I would probably jump all over this if

[AFMUG] hello cambium

2016-06-07 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I see this a lot on my stream welcome beam forming? I'll watch the whole thing later tonight

Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio

2016-06-07 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
does that include from a stream? - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio It will record 4 different real time programs simultaneously. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, J

[AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
can somebody explain to me how since this ubnt fiasco hit, their stock has seen a faster uptick than its prior trend? Is it just google analytics seeing the name come up more often and investors see that as a positive so they drop some cash? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you

[AFMUG] 450i power

2016-06-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Does anyone happen to know if the PMP450i would work with -48v ?

Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread Adam Moffett
I guess it means either that investors love malware, or that investors are completely unaware of malware. -- Original Message -- From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 6/7/2016 11:37:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock can somebody explain to me how since this ubnt

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Drop Cable

2016-06-07 Thread David Kunat
Superior Essex traceable 2 fiber drop, through millennium. > On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:50 AM, Matt wrote: > > Looking for inexpensive 2 - 6 fiber direct burial drop fiber with > tracer wire. 1K - 6K foot or so.

Re: [AFMUG] hello cambium

2016-06-07 Thread Keefe John
That doesn't seem like that great of an improvement. Just a little more upload speed? On 6/7/2016 10:32 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I see this a lot on my stream welcome beam forming? I'll watch the whole thing later tonight

Re: [AFMUG] hello cambium

2016-06-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
The beam forming only helps the upload speed. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Keefe John wrote: > That doesn't seem like that great of an improvement.� Just a little more > upload speed? > > On 6/7/2016 10:32 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > � > I see this a lot on my stream > � > �

Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
Because I told people it was a double down at $27 and meant it. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! > On J

Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread Mathew Howard
I thought maybe it was because of the new AmpliFi thingy... but is there ever a logical reason for the stock market to do what it does? On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > Because I told people it was a double down at $27 and

Re: [AFMUG] hello cambium

2016-06-07 Thread Mathew Howard
I wouldn't say that's just a *little* more upload speed... but yeah, this is supposed to deal with a specific problem (noise at the AP). On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > The beam forming only helps the upload speed. > > On Tue, Jun 7

[AFMUG] i am kinda scared by this whitepaper....

2016-06-07 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
ftp://ftp.d-link.co.za/d-linkftp/pdfs/caseStudies/cs_Bonnaroo.pdf So, I think i'm going. I just checked it out on google maps - looks like a nice tower in the middle of the place. Looks a lot like a firetower, actually. That being said, well, surely DLINK is not the wireless provider ?

Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe a flood of orders to replace bricked radios? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:03 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock I thought maybe it was because of the new AmpliFi thingy... but is there ever a logical reason for the stock market to do what it does? On T

Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread Mathew Howard
Nah... if that happened the distributors would just be out of stock for the next six months, and they'd still sell the same number :P On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Maybe a flood of orders to replace bricked radios? > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 201

Re: [AFMUG] i am kinda scared by this whitepaper....

2016-06-07 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
ehhh. https://www.tessco.com/yts/knowledge_center/su/pdfs/casestudybonnaroo.pdf - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:28 AM Subject: i am kinda scared by this whitepaper ftp://ftp.d-link.co.za/d-linkftp/pdfs/

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Matt
So has anyone moved a PMP100 2.4 cluster too PMP450 2.4 and how did that go? With PMP100 in 2.4 we do pretty good on near LOS connections. Only deployed PMP450 in 3.6 and 5ghz so far though. > We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some Ubiquiti we tried and > some we inherited as well. H

Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread Travis Johnson
You should become a full time investor... LOL. People claimed it was a $75 stock a couple years ago too. If you think you have the stock thing figured out, you would be the only person in the entire world. Even the big boys often lose millions, but they never talk about that... you only hear t

Re: [AFMUG] ot: ubnt stock

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Luthman
World of Warcraft is more of a job. You play hours, get gold, exchange the gold for USD. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > You should become a full time investor... LOL. People

Re: [AFMUG] hello cambium

2016-06-07 Thread Daniel White
Filtering and beamforming don’t really help in clean RF environments. But there is very little virgin 5GHz spectrum… so it should be a marked improvement. The beta testers I’ve spoken with have seen dramatic improvements. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVer

Re: [AFMUG] hello cambium

2016-06-07 Thread George Skorup
Yeah, I don't think they could get away with the PTP rule on the downlink in 5.7. Talking to two SMs at the same time though, that will help with overall capacity. On 6/7/2016 12:21 PM, Daniel White wrote: Filtering and beamforming don’t really help in clean RF environments. But there is ver

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have moved from pmp100 to 450 on 2.4ghz. Didn't do a cluster though. Went from a 2.4FSK on a 12db Omni to a two 450 sectors from KP 120 beam width (think 14db) . Was able to hook up every single customer I has on the FSK to the 450 and some were near-LOS. The 450 in 2.4ghz actually has impressive

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Omni to a sector, of course. You're probably getting more than 2 db unless it was a bonkers big omni and super small sector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I have moved fro

Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio

2016-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Streams are normally on demand. So they are always available. Not sure if you have a live stream, I think you could probably record that as well. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio does that include from a stre

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread George Skorup
Take into account the 24-25dBm Tx power on a 2.4 FSK AP vs 22dBm on a 2.4 450 AP. And you'll probably get a better pattern on a sector vs omni. A V-pol omni doesn't typically have a horrible pattern though. Except for vertical beamwidth. Then you play with electronic downtilt models, etc. So it

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone tried 450 3.65 for near Los situations like this discussion? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 7, 2016 2:46 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Take into account the 24-25dBm Tx power on a 2.4 FSK AP vs 22dBm on a 2.4 > 450

[AFMUG] Corp. Fleet Lease - Who do you use?

2016-06-07 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Looking to get two more used or new fleet trucks. Who do you use? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless -

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have tried a few, one short link through trees is still in service, but if the trees are near the customer it is unimpressive. You can probably replace any 2.4 FSK customers, but the NLOS ones are going to be 2X or 4X or MIMO-A, so not taking advantage of the 450 capabilities and eating up ai

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Coming from 2.4 Ubnt do you think it would meet or exceed capacity? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 7, 2016 2:59 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > I have tried a few, one short link through trees is still in service, but > if the tree

Re: [AFMUG] Corp. Fleet Lease - Who do you use?

2016-06-07 Thread Jesse DuPont
We're using Enterprise Fleet Services (their fleet arm of their car rental BU). Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.du

[AFMUG] UBNT and ATPC the Hell freezes

2016-06-07 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Newest beta for AF5X gets a ATPC function. You enter the target RX-Signal and it adapts TX-Power of the other side.

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Dan Sullivan
Dear AFMUG, Cambium Networks performed measurements of ePMP against a competitor recently in 2.4 GHz with regard to Tx Power and RSSI. This is what we found. We set AP transmit power to 21 dBm. This would allow for total EIRP of 36 dBm assuming a 15 dBi antenna was used. We measured actual t

Re: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio

2016-06-07 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Thanks :) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT TIVO Roamio Date: Tue, Jun 7, 2016 1:35 PM Streams are normally on demand. So they are always available. Not sure if you have a live stream, I think you could probably re

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT and ATPC the Hell freezes

2016-06-07 Thread Ty Featherling
*thumbs up* -Ty On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: > Newest beta for AF5X gets a ATPC function. You enter the target > > RX-Signal and it adapts TX-Power of the other side. > > >

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Witness the power of AFMUG! From: Dan Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:19 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP Dear AFMUG, Cambium Networks performed measurements of ePMP against a competitor recently in 2.4 GHz with regard to Tx Power and RSSI. This is w

[AFMUG] PMP100 Spectrum Analysis?

2016-06-07 Thread Christopher Gray
What is the bandwidth used during spectrum analysis on the PMP100 900 MHz? It is displayed as though it is measuring in 1 MHz bandwidth and 1 MHz increments, but I am curious to know if it is actually 8 MHz bandwidth and 1 MHz increments.

Re: [AFMUG] Corp. Fleet Lease - Who do you use?

2016-06-07 Thread Sean Heskett
Toyota gave us 0% for 4 years on the last 2 Tundras we purchased (2014 & 2015) Hard to lease when they are giving away free money ;-) -Sean On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote: > Looking to get two more used or new fleet trucks. Who do you use?

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Josh, In my experience the on the 450 - 3.65 is about in the middle of the 5ghz band and 2.4ghz band for near-LOS capabilities. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Has anyone tried 450 3.65 for near Los situations like this discussion? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Matt
So is PMP450i coming too the 2.4GHZ band? Would certainly help with noise. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:46 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Take into account the 24-25dBm Tx power on a 2.4 FSK AP vs 22dBm on a 2.4 > 450 AP. And you'll probably get a better pattern on a sector vs omni. A > V-pol omni doe

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
I doubt it. Do you feel that adjacent channel interference is affecting you? I don't think it would help same channel interference. Also, 450i has some features that probably aren't of use in the 2.4 band, like more CPU horsepower, 30/40 MHz channels, and wideband (4.9-5.8 GHz) on a single

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Sean Heskett
we've been able to go thru a cpl trees at less than 1/2 mile with cambium 450 in 3.65Ghz, thru 1 tree at ~1 mile, thru a branch at greater than 1 mile. -Sean On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Josh, > > In my experience the on the 450 - 3.65 is about in the middle of th

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread David
We have a ton of 3.65 deployed over 600 Subs so far since our first site deployment over year ago. We have nLOS and a few NLOS. Waiting for FCC to let us have access to the lower side so we can push higher subs per AP. We run a 5x5 and 7x5 qos on the subs and we happily get about 40+ subs on a

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread David
We cannot deploy any 2.4 in my area due to high noise floors in the urban area. On 06/07/2016 02:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Coming from 2.4 Ubnt do you think it would meet or exceed capacity? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread David
Hot Springs Ar, Small City of 36.6K and inside a county with 110K On 06/03/2016 09:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Which and what type of urban environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Sullivan
The 11X is coming with N connectors from what I have seen. So we could use some LMR200 N-to-SMA adapter cables. If this is a start from scratch thing, I would suggest a way to have the connectors covered up and out of the rain - maybe with a screw on door? I dislike weatherproofing RF cables

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Sullivan
Maybe UBNT would like adapters designed for an array of licensed dishes? This would help get the radios out to the masses faster. :-) Paging Chuck Macenski + Gary Schulz On 6/7/2016 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Sure can. I would recommend SMA connectors though I think. What does the radio ha

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Josh, We have several customers in that situation. No issues. Using 10Mhz channel. Getting ready to deploy the KP dual sectors with 5Ghz and 3.65Ghz. I can’t speak for everyone, but the 3.65 rocks in our area. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Fra

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Would be a from scratch thing, but the cover would have to be an extra piece that is removable. You will have one SMA pointing down and one pointing to the side. There would have to be room to bend the cable. From: Brian Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subje

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
The history suggests, anything I might make, that actually makes money, they eventually will incorporate in some fashion. From: Brian Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 2:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N Maybe UBNT would like adapters desig

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Glad to hear. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 7, 2016 4:52 PM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > Josh, > > > > We have several customers in that situation. No issues. Using 10Mhz >

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Ubiquiti doesn’t seem to like having an “ecosystem”. Maybe that’s an Apple thing that rubbed off on Robert. Along with an affinity for the color white. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N The his

Re: [AFMUG] PMP100 Spectrum Analysis?

2016-06-07 Thread George Skorup
For FSK, it's 8MHz for 900, 20MHz for all other bands. 450 obviously you can run the SA at 5MHz width. I wonder if they could shrink that down to 2.5MHz at some point. That would be cool. On 6/7/2016 2:30 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: What is the bandwidth used during spectrum analysis on the PMP

Re: [AFMUG] Corp. Fleet Lease - Who do you use?

2016-06-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
We have been using Enterprise's fleet division for a few years and like them. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:34 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Toyota gave us 0% for 4 years on the last 2 Tundras we purchased (2014 & > 2015) > > Hard to lease when they are giving away free money ;-) > > > -Sean > > > On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ubnt is not always very fast with copying stuff though, it only took them 3.5 years from the time the RF Armor guy started shipping shrouds/radomes for nanobridge & rocketdish until they time they created the "ISOBeam" shielded/shrouded dishes. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Sullivan
I know they like white, but why then make it a connectorized radio? That is one of the great things about the 5x, 4x, 3x + 2x, Bring-Your-Own(or old)-Dish. How many licensed links in use will need more bandwidth? We just happened to have Dragonwave, who sells the most licensed links? I would thi

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
The "RF Armor" guy is the same guy who makes Netonix switches as well. Chris Sisler. Good guy. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > ubnt is not always very fast with copying stuff though, it only took them > 3.5 years from the time the RF Armor guy started shipping shrouds/radomes

Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college?

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/g-cans-worlds-largest-drain On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Down to the bowels of he'll...a storm system we are working on...I had to > go down 40 ft. and then back up 45 I had to manually invert floats to > make sure system detects w

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
This product seems to me like a defensive product against Mimosa, also they had the spring WISPA show and needed something to announce other than the AF4x. Is it shipping yet, does it even have a firm ship date? There doesn’t even seem to be brochureware on the website yet. I assume that was

Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college?

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wow, that sucker’s huge. Reminds me of Chicago’s “Deep Tunnel” project though. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college? http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/g-cans-worlds-largest-drain On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:27 P

Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college?

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Now full of fiber optic cables: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tunnel_Company On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Wow, that sucker’s huge. > > Reminds me of Chicago’s “Deep Tunnel” project though. > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:28 PM > *To:* a

Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college?

2016-06-07 Thread Robert Andrews
Makes me think of a place that "Raiders" should shoot... On 06/07/2016 03:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Wow, that sucker’s huge. Reminds me of Chicago’s “Deep Tunnel” project though. *From:* Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:28 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college?

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
That’s different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_and_Reservoir_Plan From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college? Now full of fiber optic cables: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tunnel_Company On Tue, J

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread George Skorup
They could just spin a new/another hardware revision that will fit right onto a Remec circular interface... that we already have a bunch of in the field. My guess is, that's not going to happen. On 6/7/2016 5:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: This product seems to me like a defensive product against Mim

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread George Skorup
My house is on a 3.6 450 SM on a reflector. Almost exactly a mile away to the tower where the standard Cambium OEM 90 degree sector is at 225 feet. I have a large maple tree in the way and skimming another about 150 feet away. I get about -58dBm. When the tree is wet it'll drop to maybe -67 or

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Sounds like it's worth a try... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 7, 2016 7:34 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > My house is on a 3.6 450 SM on a reflector. Almost exactly a mile away to > the tower where the standard Cambium OEM 90

Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college?

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
here's a bigass tunnel: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/19/4853636/underground-with-manhattans-new-water-tunnel-three-photo-essay On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > That’s different. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_and_Reservoir_Plan > > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

2016-06-07 Thread George Skorup
Here's the stats from my SM. It varies a bit, but is still much more usable than the UBNT. We have a handful of customers in similar situations. Some we've even taken off of 900 FSK. Don't expect miracles, but don't say.. oh, there's a tree in the way, it's never going to work. Try it and see w

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Sullivan
It certainly seems like a defensive maneuver. Although we have been asking for since what, 2011? The radio isn't shipping yet and I believe they still have to certify with the FCC before they can put out a spec sheet. One distributor I spoke to said August availability. I did ask the same ques

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Sullivan
If you are right, it sounds like McCownTech to the rescue! On 6/7/2016 6:15 PM, George Skorup wrote: They could just spin a new/another hardware revision that will fit right onto a Remec circular interface... that we already have a bunch of in the field. My guess is, that's not going to happen.

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Jason McKemie
It would be nice to have one that fit Andrew / Commscope more directly though, as opposed to the dragonwave adapter. On Tuesday, June 7, 2016, Chuck McCown wrote: > Sure can. I would recommend SMA connectors though I think. > What does the radio have on it? > > *From:* Brian Sullivan > > *Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Brian Sullivan
What are the other attachment setups for licensed radios? I only have experience with the Dragonwave flavor. I have heard mention of an adapter to convert DWave to Cambium 820. On 6/7/2016 8:18 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: It would be nice to have one that fit Andrew / Commscope more directly thou

[AFMUG] OT: fake Windows Update screens

2016-06-07 Thread Colin Stanners
http://fakeupdate.net/these make great pranks - but the Windows 10 one is fearsome enough that it could make enemies.

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Several radio manufacturers used to OEM the Remec ODUs, and there are Remec circular and rectangular slip fit interfaces. Dragonwave, Ceragon, SAF and Exalt have their own, as I assume do several others I have no experience with. Then there’s Jirous, which Mimosa has teamed up with. Antenna v

Re: [AFMUG] For this I went to college?

2016-06-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
We have two Magnetrol R82 Pulse Burst Radar level transmitters installed to give water levels when storm water comes in. They use 26GHz to send and receive echo from raising water. Will share more tomorrow... On Jun 7, 2016 5:42 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > here's a bigass tunnel: > > > http://w

[AFMUG] New hold music for telemarketers and unsolicited sales calls

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
On my PBX: Call 1-778-819-8465 As soon as it picks up, enter to get the extension It's the ultimate terrible hold music... Or you can listen to it here: https://soundcloud.com/user-237714155/sales-call-abyss

Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for telemarketers and unsolicited sales calls

2016-06-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Lol! :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 7, 2016 10:31 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > On my PBX: > > Call 1-778-819-8465 > > As soon as it picks up, enter to get the extension > > It's the ultimate terrible hold music... Or y

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Jaime Fink
Actually Ken, there's a few more options on the Mimosa side thanks to our slip fit wave guide design on the B11: Radiowaves now have Mimosa adapter mount due to popular demand. This is ready now as I understand it from their channel. We're testing very soon a 3rd party adapter plate for the 2 m

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Cool. Never heard of Tong Yu. Sounds like fighting words. Or a university. From: Jaime Fink Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N Actually Ken, there's a few more options on the Mimosa side thanks to our slip fit wa

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
Like this? " Tong Yu ese Holmes..." On Jun 7, 2016 8:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Cool. > > Never heard of Tong Yu. Sounds like fighting words. Or a university. > > > *From:* Jaime Fink > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:35 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragon

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
A tong is a long fork, right? So Fork Yu? Or a Chinese criminal gang? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:43 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N Like this? " Tong Yu ese Holmes..." On Jun 7, 2016 8:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: Cool

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
Tong has several meanings and is a surname depending on regionwe made some T Shirts when I worked for the Tornillo school district..we wore them a couple of times but some folks got upset..." Tornillo U" On Jun 7, 2016 8:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > A tong is a long fork, right? So For

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Butte Pirates: https://www.prepsportswear.com/school/us/Idaho/Arco/Butte-County-High-School-Pirates/ProductList.aspx?schoolid=11608&category=305 On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Tong has several meanings and is a surname depending on regionwe made > some T Shirts when

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread George Skorup
The coaxial on an 11GHz radio makes no sense to me. Everybody else (mostly?) is waveguide. Different is not always good, even if it's cheaper. "Because what f'n antenna am I supposed to use!?" says the entire list. They might have been better off with a proprietary slip-fit antenna and/or int

[AFMUG] Can cnMaestro Reboot AP's?

2016-06-07 Thread Nate Burke
I have a 4 sector EPMP Site that has been up for some time with a handful of customer on it. I had it in cnMaestro. I added about 6 Subs to the site today, and suddenly, all 4 AP's started rebooting about every 5-6 minutes. I Disabled the NAT rule that allows them connection to the Interwebs

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Interesting that if I try to use the Times Microwave calculator for LMR cables at 11 GHz, it gives an error that the cable is not suitable for that frequency. Apparently they consider the max to be 6 GHz. From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

2016-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Which is why Ku band satellite stuff for two way VSAT terminals/earth stations has been direct from feed to waveguide for a while now... You need high quality low loss cable and special N connectors for 11 GHz. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Interesting that if I try to use