So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most
economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides
2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying
another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options
t
I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz
radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0?
On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote:
> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most
> economical option for more capacity
11GHz is cheaper if I recall.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:57 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz
> radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0?
> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote:
>
>> So I have a lumina on
Our 6GHz Trango Lynx was almost $12K with dishes.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Jeremy wrote:
> 11GHz is cheaper if I recall.
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:57 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
>> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz
>> radio in terms of bits/hz or sh
enough for you during weather.
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From: "TJ Trout"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:54:17 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
So
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio
in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0?
On J
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> From: TJ Trout
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacit
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>> From: TJ Trout
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
>> Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM
>>
that does 80 MHz
channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe having consistent
equipment across your network to simplify sparing.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
11ghz integra
On 1/16/15 11:12, Josh Luthman wrote:
It's just a factor. What other options can do 80 MHz? Can they do 1024
QAM? I'd bet 60 MHz * 1024qam is pretty close to 80 MHz * 256qam.
Yeah, probably only a 30 meg raw capacity difference.
~Seth
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel widths
can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist in 6 GHz, and
I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need to license 2
Maximum bandwidth at 6 GHz is 60 MHz…
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel
@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>
>
>
> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel
> widths can be licen
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
I would first talk to your frequency coordina
6ghz will only be 60mhz wide. Two 11Ghz channels will be 80Mhz wide. intelpath
charges under $200 to see if the possibility even exists.
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> On Jan 16, 2015, at 1:57 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio
> in te
There are 80 MHz allocations at 11 GHz – so you can license a single 80 MHz
channel pair.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
6ghz will only be
, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 GHz...
IIRC.
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at 3:58 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous?
I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel than to
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option f
orthogonal polarization.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous?
I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC
l depends on the environment. If
> x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on the
> orthogonal polarization.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmu
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>> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment.
>> If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on
>> the orthogonal polarization.
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From: "Josh Luthman"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:13:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for highe
:17 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most
economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 2+0
right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking ab
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To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:54:17 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgr
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> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>
> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6
> GHz... IIRC.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous?
I’m thinking it might
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nt: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:09:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
Mike;
Integra not available in 6 or 11, when they are it's only 100 meg jump in
performance from the lumina...
I'll checkout trango and maybe alcoma. Sounds like the IP20c is wh
;
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:09:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
Mike;
Integra not available in 6 or 11, when they are it's only 100 meg jump in
performance from the lumina...
I'll checkout trango and maybe alcoma.
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as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. If x-pol
is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on the orthogonal
polarization.
From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.
Sounds like a hell of a deal!
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From: "Jon Langeler"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:16:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for highe
e Hammett
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> *From: *"Jon Langeler"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 4:16:38 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
What do your NetFlow reports say?
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From: "TJ Trout"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:25:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for highe
*Friday, January 16, 2015 4:09:46 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
Mike;
Integra not available in 6 or 11, when they are it's only 100 meg jump
in performance from the lumina...
I'll checkout trango and maybe alcoma. Sounds like the IP20c is w
.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, w
.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
11GHz is cheaper if I recall.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at
January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio
in terms of bits/hz or should I just
uthman
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
It's just a factor. What other options can do 80 MHz? Can they do 1024 QAM?
I'd bet 60 MHz * 1024qam is pretty close to 80 MHz * 256qam.
Josh Lut
n...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 12:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>
>
>
> It's just a factor. What other options can do 80 MHz? Can they do 1024
> QAM? I'd
ailable on the
orthogonal polarization.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 3:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
Can one put on a combiner and a different brand radio as to have moar
throughput?
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a hell of a deal!
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To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:16:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 9:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
What's W and S on the Integra?
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to be available on the
orthogonal polarization.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous?
> 2 x 80 Mhz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit.
>
> Does a Gig.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 1
What kind of problems, and what model?
The G2 links we put in just worked. Granted that is their entry level model,
maybe less to go wrong.
From: Steve Utick
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
My
t;
>
> From: Steve Utick
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>
> My problem is at this point, I've had so many problems with Exalt that I'm
> not sure I'd buy ano
and what model?
>
> The G2 links we put in just worked. Granted that is their entry level
> model, maybe less to go wrong.
>
>
> *From:* Steve Utick
> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 12:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher
try to do it by hand. But if you’ve gone through a bunch of
radios you already know this. What brand antennas?
From: Steve Utick
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
We have three G2 links in currently
hes to pull
> it tight and not try to do it by hand. But if you’ve gone through a bunch
> of radios you already know this. What brand antennas?
>
>
> *From:* Steve Utick
> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 1:43 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz b
>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
>>
>>
>>
Exalt ExtremeAir.
>>
>> 2 x 80 Mhz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit.
>>
>> Does a Gig.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1
gt; wrote:
You could also look at the Exalt ExtremeAir.
2 x 80 Mhz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit.
Does a Gig.
Adam
From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz b
hz channels with X-Pic all in one all-outdoor unit.
>>
>> Does a Gig.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:48 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Su
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