Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Dream keeper) Intent to Register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Maybe we could use a metaphor or just something similar and illustrative? "A player may begin to Chant for a particular action (...) When a player has been Chanting for (...)" "Chant", "Spellcast" or "Summon"; perhaps. Fantasy-themed things for 'charging up' to do something. Could be any other

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Rulekeepor) Clean rule 2675

2023-05-18 Thread beokirby agora via agora-discussion
I re-submit my intent but edited to be replacing " ore " with " or " -Beokirby On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 2:38 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/18/23 14:36, beokirby agora via agora-business wrote: > > I intend to clean Rule 2675 ("Dream of

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Rulekeepor) Clean rule 2675

2023-05-18 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Suggestion: match more text: EG "16 ore" to "16 or" On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:38 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/18/23 14:36, beokirby agora via agora-business wrote: > > I intend to clean Rule 2675 ("Dream of Wandering") by replacing "ore" > with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Dream keeper) Intent to Register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
There's a bit of a discussion on Discord right now, that "intend" (or synonyms like "plan") have an implication of "doing in future, not now" in many contexts, which adds to the confusion for registration - and has specifically called out in the past in terms of "consent now" versus "consent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Dream keeper) Intent to Register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/18/23 13:32, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: Hm. We should probably use different words for registration "intents" and tabled "intents". In fact, I think it could be good to keyword things in the ruleset, sort of like how MTG and plenty of other games do it, like; [Lifesteal]

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Dream keeper) Intent to Register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Hm. We should probably use different words for registration "intents" and tabled "intents". In fact, I think it could be good to keyword things in the ruleset, sort of like how MTG and plenty of other games do it, like; [Lifesteal] or [Flash]. I believe we already have something like it in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Dream keeper) Intent to Register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Thu, 2023-05-18 at 11:16 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > hehe we can still fool old players sometimes - "intend" has a > "specific meaning" for registration as well as for other contexts, so > beokirby registered exactly as per the rules: > > > An Unregistered person CAN

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Dream keeper) Intent to Register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:09 AM nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/18/23 13:06, beokirby agora via agora-business wrote: > > I intend to register as a player of Agora. > > My name is beokirby. > > > > I will then grant myself a welcome package and envision a dream of gardens > Welcome

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Dream keeper) Intent to Register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/18/23 13:06, beokirby agora via agora-business wrote: I intend to register as a player of Agora. My name is beokirby. I will then grant myself a welcome package and envision a dream of gardens Welcome beokirby! Keep in mind that phrases like "I intend" actually have a specific meaning in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 4:44 AM juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-05-17 23:21]: > > On 5/17/23 20:13, nix via agora-business wrote: > > > On 5/17/23 19:10, Christian Arguinzoni via agora-business wrote: > > >> I would like to register for the nomic game

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/18/23 06:44, juan via agora-discussion wrote: I think this is kind of rude… People are free to choose their own names, at least in Agora, and I believe its an important principle. The problem seems to stem from the way the rules define persons regardless of their interactions with game

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 19:13 -0500, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 5/17/23 19:10, Christian Arguinzoni via agora-business wrote: > > I would like to register for the nomic game Agora. My preferred name is > > blob. Thank you! > > Welcome! I grant blob a Welcome Package. This is interesting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to register to Agora

2023-05-18 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-05-17 23:21]: > On 5/17/23 20:13, nix via agora-business wrote: > > On 5/17/23 19:10, Christian Arguinzoni via agora-business wrote: > >> I would like to register for the nomic game Agora. My preferred name is > >> blob. Thank you! > > Welcome! I grant blob a

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to register to Agora

2023-05-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/17/23 20:13, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 5/17/23 19:10, Christian Arguinzoni via agora-business wrote: >> I would like to register for the nomic game Agora. My preferred name is >> blob. Thank you! > Welcome! I grant blob a Welcome Package. This is interesting because > this might be

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Surveyor) Commune entry

2023-05-16 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2023-05-16 at 19:28 -0400, Katie Davenport via agora-business wrote: > I intend to: > > Enter the current tournament of Commune as a participant. > > Set my (Left, Middle, Right) constructors to construct (7, B, D), > respectively. > > Invest in Olive. This is a little ambiguous,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4024 Assigned to snail

2023-05-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/16/23 04:18, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > >> On May 16, 2023, at 12:55 AM, Janet Cobb via agora-business >> wrote: >> >> On 5/16/23 00:41, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: The above judgement goes against game custom, common sense, and the best interests of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-16 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/16/23 14:49, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > @Herald: I recommend removing G and Janet from the review board. It has > been more than a week, and only Yachay has done the review. Both have assured me (on Discord) that they will have their responses out in the next 48ish hours,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee

2023-05-16 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 1:28 PM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/16/23 15:27, nix via agora-business wrote: > > On 4/30/23 18:45, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > >> I intend to award Golden Glove to snail. > > I intend with 2 Agoran Consent to award

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-16 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:33 AM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/3/23 18:00, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following horribly long thesis specifically to qualify for a > > degree > My office has received another degree. I will be

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering for Agora

2023-05-16 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Katie Davenport via agora-business [2023-05-16 13:13]: > Consider this my statement of intent to register as a player of Agora! > Excited to get started! > > -Katie Davenport (inalienableWright) Welcome inalienableWright! You are registered. -- juan Registrar

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8972-8979

2023-05-15 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/15/23 10:19, nix via agora-business wrote: >> 8976* Janet 3.0 Ruleset convergance > Conditional: FOR if Janet has intended to RWO the ruleset in the last > week, otherwise AGAINST. RWO cannot make changes to rules. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: BUS: The Brillant Murphy Bean (attn Collector, Herald)

2023-05-14 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 6:03 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I pay 8 stamps (of types ais523, juan, Madrid, Murphy, nix, R. Lee, > snail, and Yachay) to gain (8^2)-8 = 56 radiance. > > I pay 5 Murphy stamps to gain (5-1)*2 = 8 radiance. > > I have 37

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald, @Stonemason) Watch this!!!!

2023-05-14 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
snail wrote: I wield the radiance stone. (Woah! So cool!) (Wait! Oh my gosh! it's) I reach for the Recursion stone. (with a steel chair) As $DEITY is my witness, that rule is broken in half!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-14 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
The "investigator", "investigation" names are pretty misleading. Maybe it could be reworded to something like "umpire", "assignation", etc? I might draft something later On Sunday, May 14, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/13/23 15:47, juan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/13/23 15:47, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-05-12 18:51]: >> In Agora, the rules are clear. The clock starts running when the >> infraction actually occurred, not when it was discovered or reasonably >> could have been discovered. > I'd argue this is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8972-8979

2023-05-13 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
It's helpful for me, as a player, who is particularly invested in Proposals. On Saturday, May 13, 2023, juan via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > secretsnail9 via agora-official [2023-05-13 05:07]: > > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > I vote as follows. > > > 8972*

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-13 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-05-12 18:51]: > In Agora, the rules are clear. The clock starts running when the > infraction actually occurred, not when it was discovered or reasonably > could have been discovered. I'd argue this is a problem. If the investigation is to determine if there

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8972-8979

2023-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 10:17 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > Also why is radiance at power 1.5 in the first place? > Was a minor design choice: because (in drafting points) I thought the win condition itself (100+ points) should be a trifle more protected than the award

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8972-8979

2023-05-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/13/23 06:13, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >> 8974~ Janet 1.0 Plan B >> > AGAINST (Radiance gameplay is pretty much all we have, also this wouldn't > even remove radiance (power 1.5). I'd rather see a fix or replacement > instead of a repeal, and my draft should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 18:15, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-05-12 09:32]: >> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:59 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion >> wrote: >> So a question to you: if an investigator, with good and honest intent >> doesn't believe that a crime has

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-05-12 09:32]: > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:59 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion > wrote: > So a question to you: if an investigator, with good and honest intent > doesn't believe that a crime has been committed, and the 1-week > Favoritism deadline for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Ah, alright On Friday, May 12, 2023, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Oh sure - no worries if that’s the only thing - I was giving my logic so it > didn’t come across as arbitrary, but didn’t mean to imply it was anything > but my best (conjectural)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
Oh sure - no worries if that’s the only thing - I was giving my logic so it didn’t come across as arbitrary, but didn’t mean to imply it was anything but my best (conjectural) guess at this time. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 9:51 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion <

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Easy, you could state that you're basing yourself off mere conjecture and that's the best you can do for now rather than using using language that states your position as a matter of fact. On Friday, May 12, 2023, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:59 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'd like to mention that I don't feel like you're exercising the "highest > reasonably possible standard of care" if your basis for if the crime has > been committed or not is that it doesn't match the arcana, unless

DIS: Re: BUS: on invisbilitating

2023-05-12 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2023-05-12 at 06:04 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > Further it is clear from the text itself that it was intended > that this definition be "hidden" and continue to provide definitional > guidance (that's unique afaik when thinking of other old gamestate): It can't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I'd like to mention that I don't feel like you're exercising the "highest reasonably possible standard of care" if your basis for if the crime has been committed or not is that it doesn't match the arcana, unless you prove first that the arcana has survived and still has legal effect to this day.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:03 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > Having such an unwieldy amount of arcana puts a lot of power in being able > to give out 'hedonistic' Judgements; ones that are heavily based on "well > this is best for the game"/"this makes it playable"/etc,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Having such an unwieldy amount of arcana puts a lot of power in being able to give out 'hedonistic' Judgements; ones that are heavily based on "well this is best for the game"/"this makes it playable"/etc, especially ones that have to be that way because of ambiguity. Because we don't know for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 08:24, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: Sure, I note the infraction of Invisibilitating performed by 4st for jaywalking without a license, compounded by having dangerous levels of swagger. I CfJ: "There was an infraction noted in this message." AFAICT Invisibilitating, if

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 06:59, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: - Why would we make a special case just for Invisibilitating specifically? What about other ancient things that may affect how other*current* things of the game work too? There might be. There's nothing that prevents us from looking

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 5:00 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > > - It takes agency away from newer players and puts more into older ones > which are more familiar with this obscure ancient arcana which has now > supposedly been made relevant, which feels terrible. > Just on this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Expedited Proposals

2023-05-12 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 1:31 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/12/23 01:37, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > > And about "voting strength games", any player could reactivate voting > > strength on the proposal if they would vote against

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Expedited Proposals

2023-05-12 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 01:37, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > And about "voting strength games", any player could reactivate voting > strength on the proposal if they would vote against it. Voting strength > only matters when there's disagreement anyways, and if there is any, it'll > get turned

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Expedited Proposals

2023-05-11 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 12:08 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/12/23 01:02, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > Each player CAN, with 2 support, flip an ordinary proposal's class > to > > expedited, provided it is in the Proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Expedited Proposals

2023-05-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 01:02, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > Proposals created since the enactment of this rule have a secured > untracked Class switch with possible values ordinary (the default), > expedited, and democratic. Also, this opens up new voting strength games, since

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Expedited Proposals

2023-05-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 01:02, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > Each player CAN, with 2 support, flip an ordinary proposal's class to > expedited, provided it is in the Proposal Pool and e has not done so yet > this week. Each player CAN, by announcement, flip an expedited proposal's > class to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Assessor) 8960-8964

2023-05-11 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 4:47 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 4:16 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On 4/29/23 02:20, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > > I vote as

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Assessor) 8960-8964

2023-05-11 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 4:16 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/29/23 02:20, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > I vote as follows: > > 8960 ABSENT > > 8961 FOR > > 8962 FOR > > 8963 FOR > > 8964 AGAINST > > > > (also, I am now accepting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Plan B

2023-05-08 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/8/23 03:39, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > - It's very easy to find trades that are net beneficial for the traders. > Most people seem to agree that trading Stamps 1-for-1 is generally > reasonable and a good trade. Just have the same person do that enough times > with

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) Break Everything Contract?

2023-05-08 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 7:39 AM Forest Sweeney wrote: > On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 7:32 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I create and join the following contract: >> { >> Players can leave this contract at any time. >> When a player makes a rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Plan B

2023-05-08 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 13:55 +0100, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > my current thoughts are along the lines of "add Radiance for > participation actions like proposing / officiating / judging / even > voting And to clarify: by this I mean voting *at all*, not specifically for contrary votes

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Plan B

2023-05-08 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 01:24 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > Given a new player winning within a month and a half by stamps by > simply trading, something needs to change I disagree with this part of your statement – I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with a new

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Plan B

2023-05-08 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I believe that a few things contributed to me winning: - It's very easy to find trades that are net beneficial for the traders. Most people seem to agree that trading Stamps 1-for-1 is generally reasonable and a good trade. Just have the same person do that enough times with different people and

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Prime Minister/@Herald) Proper Congratulations

2023-05-08 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Thanks! Yeah, I had to speed up quite a few things because of the blot thing, but I'm relieved that it all worked out in the end. On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:11 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I petition the Prime Minister to assign Yachay to the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, @Herald) Stamps for Radiance 2

2023-05-08 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Thank you ais and snail, and thank you for your help! On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:06 AM secretsnail9 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 7:08 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2023-05-08 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, @Herald) Stamps for Radiance 2

2023-05-08 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 7:08 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 02:01 +0200, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business > wrote: > > I pay 5 different Stamps (ais523, nix, snail, Yachay, murphy) to gain > > 20 radiance ( 5^2 - 5 = 20 ) > > I

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Plan B

2023-05-07 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 10:25 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Title: Plan B > > Adoption index: 1.0 > > Author: Janet > > Coauthors: > > { > > Amend Rule 2657 by, as a single amendment, removing the list items and >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, @Herald) Stamps for Radiance 2

2023-05-07 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 02:01 +0200, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > I pay 5 different Stamps (ais523, nix, snail, Yachay, murphy) to gain > 20 radiance ( 5^2 - 5 = 20 ) > I pay 5 of the same Stamp (ais523) to gain 8 radiance ( (5-1)*2 = 8 ) > > I announce that I have 100 radiance. I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election updates

2023-05-07 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
nix wrote: On 4/23/23 18:45, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Assessor election.   * The Vote Collector is the ADoP.   * The valid options are the candidates (currently 4st, Janet).   * The voting method is instant runoff.  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Delegation

2023-05-07 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
nix wrote: On 5/1/23 15:05, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: When you do a job manually for a while, you start to use shortcuts, get faster, streamline, then maybe join a couple of steps using a bit of code… there’s really no sharp line between “automation” and plain old “experience” -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] 8639 rerun [CFJ]

2023-05-07 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/7/23 16:46, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: I agree, it's not surplusage. A finding that "amend" can include changes other than those explicitly described in Rule 105 would render it surplus. I guess this is the last time I try to write compromise text, if it's going to be used to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Notary) Contract Creation - GUNDAM-YACHAY

2023-05-05 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
To be frank, I haven't done a good job at explaining how it works. The intent is that other contacts deliberately interface with my contract and have a similar Signal/Task system. Like that, we can send "Signals" between each other and presumably "Tasks", while neither of us is a member of the

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Notary) Contract Creation - GUNDAM-YACHAY

2023-05-05 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 4:20 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > So, I was thinking about the Mousetrap scam and how to possibly protect > myself from that kind of thing while still interacting with potentially > dangerous contracts. I initially thought

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-05 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Oh, I probably misunderstood the acronyms, I thought AN was the lowest kind of degree (for any subject), then JN, then BN, etc A starting-to-mid tier degree seems good to me for this, and whatever fits for Philosophy On Friday, May 5, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8960-8964

2023-05-05 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I just realized that proposal radiance got repealed, so I change my votes to this: > 8960~ ais523 1.0 Ritual disambiguation FOR > 8961~ G. 1.0 now you don't see it AGAINST > 8962~ Yachay 1.0 Please behave, Prime Minister FOR >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-04 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/4/23 16:00, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > I think Philosophy would fit, and one of AN/JN/BN JN is for law theses, which this definitely is not. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Active Player Tax

2023-05-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 12:57 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > It's fine, I'm kind of curious myself too. > > On Thursday, May 4, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:51 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-04 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I think Philosophy would fit, and one of AN/JN/BN On Thursday, May 4, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Thanks for reviewing! You make some very good points, I'll be sure to > address some of them in my resubmission. You use a unique criterion

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Active Player Tax

2023-05-04 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
It's fine, I'm kind of curious myself too. On Thursday, May 4, 2023, Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:51 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > I note this infraction made by 4st.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-04 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Thanks for reviewing! You make some very good points, I'll be sure to address some of them in my resubmission. You use a unique criterion to determine your nomination. I'm curious to what degree you think this qualifies for once it does get resubmitted. Is it an Art degree for the opinion and the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-04 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I'll grade based on the following marks: 30 marks, Introductions: How well-presented the main topic/s are, the rationale for the thesis, the background, etc. 30 marks, Body: How well the topic is argued, researched and discussed. 30 marks, Conclusions: How reasonable the conclusions are based on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:44 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > In response: > I had written this thesis with exactly as you say also in mind. We take > conclusions to their logical extremes without first testing and confirming > via CFJ or otherwise if the Truth that we'd found

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Review Board for 4st's Thesis @Yachay @G. @Janet

2023-05-04 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:33 AM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/3/23 18:00, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following horribly long thesis specifically to qualify for a > > degree > Yachay and G. are automatically selected as the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Referee is Submitting a Thesis anyways WHAAAAT

2023-05-04 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/4/23 11:16, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: I think I'm underqualified but, sure. There's three people doing reviews, and in any case whatever is decided has to get consent anyway, so I think it's good to have a newer player that's interested be part of that process! -- nix

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Referee is Submitting a Thesis anyways WHAAAAT

2023-05-04 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I think I'm underqualified but, sure. On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 6:15 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/4/23 03:32, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > I like a lot the new vocabulary that the thesis introduces as well as the > > themes that it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Referee is Submitting a Thesis anyways WHAAAAT

2023-05-04 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/4/23 03:32, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: I like a lot the new vocabulary that the thesis introduces as well as the themes that it tackles, and I'd like to give a response to its conclusions. This isn't intended to be a review, just a reply. Would you like to be added to the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Referee is Submitting a Thesis anyways WHAAAAT

2023-05-04 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
I highly recommend that you join the review board, especially since you've already read this one :) tor. 4. mai 2023, 1:34 a.m. skrev Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>: > Oop, I didn't mean to send that just yet. Oh well, it's good enough. > > In any case,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Referee is Submitting a Thesis anyways WHAAAAT

2023-05-04 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Oop, I didn't mean to send that just yet. Oh well, it's good enough. In any case, I'm very happy to see your thesis, and I enjoyed reading it. I hope to see more sometime. On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:32 AM Yachay Wayllukuq wrote: > I like a lot the new vocabulary that the thesis introduces as

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Referee is Submitting a Thesis anyways WHAAAAT

2023-05-04 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I like a lot the new vocabulary that the thesis introduces as well as the themes that it tackles, and I'd like to give a response to its conclusions. This isn't intended to be a review, just a reply. - "Firstly, let's experiment with holistic offices and gameplay (...)": I'm very open to

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8960-8964

2023-05-04 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I appreciate it, while I don't think I will change my vote, this feels a lot more amenable. On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:28 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 3:42 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 12:30 PM Kerim Aydin

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Registrar Tracks Birthdays

2023-05-02 Thread juan via agora-discussion
nix via agora-business [2023-04-29 19:59]: > Title: Registrar Tracks Birthdays Oh no, work! -- juan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-05-02 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 11:29 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/30/23 17:47, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > I intend to award Employee of the Year to either Janet or snail, > > subject to discussion. > I'm not convinced this works as an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-05-02 Thread Aspen via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:38 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:28 AM nix via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > On 4/30/23 17:47, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > > I intend to award Employee of the Year to either Janet or snail, > > > subject to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-05-02 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:28 AM nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 4/30/23 17:47, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > I intend to award Employee of the Year to either Janet or snail, > > subject to discussion. > I'm not convinced this works as an official intent (I'm not even sure if >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-05-02 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/2/23 11:28, nix via agora-discussion wrote: Very hard to choose between the two. Maybe other factors shouldn't count, but since neither has ever won any yearly award, and snail already looks like a lock for the Golden Glove, I'd personally lean towards Janet for this one. Another

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Delegation

2023-05-02 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 10:28 AM nix via agora-business wrote: > If an officer specified a Delegate when taking a Vacation, and the > Delegate has publicly consented, then the Delegate can act as if e > is the holder of the Office while the officer is On Vacation. I'm still against

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Awards Month (@Promotor, @Arbitor, @Tailor, @ADoP)

2023-05-02 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 4/30/23 17:47, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: I intend to award Employee of the Year to either Janet or snail, subject to discussion. I'm not convinced this works as an official intent (I'm not even sure if it was meant to be one vs just a statement of what you plan to do). But I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] 8639 rerun [CFJ]

2023-05-02 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:17 AM Aspen via agora-business wrote: > > On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:01 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > On 5/2/23 01:01, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:38 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Proposal - The Rice Game

2023-05-02 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Ah! Thank you. I'll amend that along with anything else you (or others) may see, in one go then, once time has passed or more comments have come in. On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 5:35 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/2/23 05:06, Yachay Wayllukuq via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] 8639 rerun

2023-05-02 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/2/23 01:01, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:38 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> [Proposal 8639 >> failed to make this change because it used "amend" for a power change. > > If everyone involved including you

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Proposal - The Rice Game

2023-05-02 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/2/23 05:06, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: if ey haven't done so I'll read the rest soon, but just to note: the version of spivak Agora iplements uses "e [singular agreement]" not "ey [plural agreement]" which I understand that some similar systems use. So this should be "if

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Delegation

2023-05-02 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-05-01 11:46]: > Maybe making the delegation subject to a public volunteer process - so it’s > treated differently if more than one person want the job, so the > hand-picking potential is more limited? I suggest we treat this the same way as the list of

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] 8639 rerun

2023-05-01 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:38 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > [Proposal 8639 > failed to make this change because it used "amend" for a power change. If everyone involved including you knew what it meant at the time so as to miss the “error” entirely,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election updates

2023-05-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/1/23 04:27, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > I had in mind to work together with the Promotor to make the Google Sheet > that outputs which Proposal passes or not much more accurate, as well as do > some more Google Sheet magic to make it output a good chunk of the > Assessor's

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election updates

2023-05-01 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 2:09 PM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/23/23 18:45, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Assessor > > election. > > * The Vote Collector is the ADoP. > > * The valid

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election updates

2023-05-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/1/23 17:09, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 4/23/23 18:45, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: >> I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Assessor >> election. >>   * The Vote Collector is the ADoP. >>   * The valid options are the candidates (currently 4st, Janet).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Delegation

2023-05-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/1/23 14:46, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > While I was supportive of the delegation idea on discord, I’m coming around > to Yachay’s position. I’ve “taken breaks” from arbitor regularly - snail > and Jason both did the job for a bit last year - but when it was > technically

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Delegation

2023-05-01 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/1/23 15:05, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > When you do a job manually for a while, you start to use shortcuts, get > faster, streamline, then maybe join a couple of steps using a bit of code… > there’s really no sharp line between “automation” and plain old > “experience” - the two

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Delegation

2023-05-01 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 12:37 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/1/23 14:36, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > Ideally, I think, everything is doable with automation. In practice tho, > > I'm not sure what that looks like. > > Crucial typo. I think

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