Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Tom Hennigan
Sorry i only tested libtcl8.4.dylib (which is a file not a symlink), and that is a universal dylib, but it appears that libtk8.4.dylib is a symlinkOn 5 May 2006, at 22:21, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:How could a simlink be a Universal Version? I really miss something here.Le 5 mai 2006 à 12:29, T

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Karol Krizka
On Friday 05 May 2006 12:20, Harry Vennik wrote: > > This is hte proposal: > > > > ===Account=== > > Log in as ... > > Log in > > Log out > > --- > > Change Nickname ... > > My Status > > > --- > > Go to Inbox > > My profile > > --- > > view received files > > show events history > > --- > > Enable

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: > oh yeah, and btw, the 'Close' button in official client's menu, it puts > it in the tray.. which is I think the best default behavior.. but.. WHAT? The official client has a lot of bloat and stupidities, do we have to copy it all? Come On

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 16:23 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: > On Fri, 05 May 2006 15:34:44 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 14:55 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: > >> On Fri, 05 May 2006 14:26:26 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> >

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
oh yeah, and btw, the 'Close' button in official client's menu, it puts it in the tray.. which is I think the best default behavior.. but.. still allow users to configure it as they want.. an additional 'Exit'.. humm.. I'm skeptical.. I would say maybe, but if yes, only at the condition of :

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Harry Vennik wrote: > > [OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences > > This is something only set once. From usability point of view > > it's even wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close > > button is used as this should do the same as the "close"

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, 05 May 2006 16:09:00 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 21:34 +0200, schreef Karel Demeyer: [CUT] > I pressed "Send" too quickly :) I read this first before replying on the comments above though. am I just sleepy or I can't figure out what you're

Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
How could a simlink be a Universal Version? I really miss something here.Le 5 mai 2006 à 12:29, Tom Hennigan a écrit :Oh and they're universal versions as well from this location!! :D--I have it on mine here:/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/libtcl8.4.dylib/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/

Re: [Amsn-devel] freebsd 6 installation errors

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
USE THE FORUMS : http://amsn.sf.net/forums AND we don't support bsd... KKRT On Fri, 05 May 2006 16:19:41 -0400, Pablo Mora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install amsn on my laptop, it has installed freebsd6. I thought I've got installed all the dependencies, but when ImageMagi

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, 05 May 2006 15:34:44 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 14:55 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: On Fri, 05 May 2006 14:26:26 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please comment on this. I was assited by 2 Gnome Usability guys for > this.

[Amsn-devel] freebsd 6 installation errors

2006-05-05 Thread Pablo Mora
Hi,   I’m trying to install amsn on my laptop, it has installed freebsd6.   I thought I’ve got installed all the dependencies, but when ImageMagick-6.2.2 starts install process it goes down.   Take a look:     if /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --silent --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 21:34 +0200, schreef Karel Demeyer: > Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 14:55 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: > > On Fri, 05 May 2006 14:26:26 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Please comment on this. I was assited by 2 Gnome Usability guys for > > > this. Ab

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 14:55 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: > On Fri, 05 May 2006 14:26:26 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Please comment on this. I was assited by 2 Gnome Usability guys for > > this. About the contactlist-right-click menu I have to ask some more > > advi

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Harry Vennik
First to say: Good proposal again, you're doing miracles at the moment! It is A LOT better than what we have. But, I do have some comments on this. I will put them inlined in your mail. Op vrijdag 5 mei 2006 20:26, schreef Karel Demeyer: > Please comment on this. I was assited by 2 Gnome Usabil

Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Tom Hennigan
Oh and they're universal versions as well from this location!! :D--I have it on mine here:/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/libtcl8.4.dylib/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/libtk8.4.dylibOn 5 May 2006, at 07:42, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:Ok I found the problemOn my amsn package that wor

Re: [Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, 05 May 2006 14:26:26 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please comment on this. I was assited by 2 Gnome Usability guys for this. About the contactlist-right-click menu I have to ask some more advice fomr 'm. But we have to make sure what we want. When a user is not on

Re: [Amsn-devel] chatwindow menus

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
Alright, you might be right on that one, you keep it up this way, but could you at least wait a little for more input before coding it ? like Harry's proposition for example (if you want to wait no more than 2 days, then say so in the mail) Anyways, I leave all matters to you, I'm sure you'll

Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
It could be a copy, not a symlink, so if you do a diff, it should tell you if there is a difference, you do the diff between the libtcl8.4.dylib and the 'Tcl' file in Framework/ On Fri, 05 May 2006 14:08:55 -0400, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not sure to understand, I d

[Amsn-devel] main menus proposal

2006-05-05 Thread Karel Demeyer
Please comment on this. I was assited by 2 Gnome Usability guys for this. About the contactlist-right-click menu I have to ask some more advice fomr 'm. But we have to make sure what we want. When a user is not online and we double-click, and we want it to open a SMS for mobile users, we should

Re: find file (Was: Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X)

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, 05 May 2006 10:54:51 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 5 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: I had it run every day, so it's always up to date, but still it won't find some files (normal filenames, no special char, simple a to z ascii), I do a locate on something

Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
Not sure to understand, I diff with what other file? It's a real file, not a symbolic link. So it must come from somewhere, but where? Le 5 mai 2006 à 08:54, Youness Alaoui a écrit : If I remember correctly it is a symbolic link (or a copy) of the file Tk or Tcl.. try : diff Framework/Tcl

Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
I see symlinks at this place, not real file...Le 5 mai 2006 à 12:21, Tom Hennigan a écrit :I have it on mine here:/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/libtcl8.4.dylib/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/libtk8.4.dylibOn 5 May 2006, at 07:42, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:Ok I found the problemOn

Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Tom Hennigan
I have it on mine here:/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/libtcl8.4.dylib/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/lib/libtk8.4.dylibOn 5 May 2006, at 07:42, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:Ok I found the problemOn my amsn package that works well to compile aMSN, there's a filelibtcl8.4.dylib inside tcl f

Re: [Amsn-devel] chatwindow menus

2006-05-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
I'm with you Karel. You are doing a good job and you are closely following the HIG. I'm sure that, if you had suggested these changes in here, we'd end up discussing and never coding, get messed in a homemade bureaucracy, and menus would end up being a huge mess, following contrasting opinions

Re: [Amsn-devel] chatwindow menus

2006-05-05 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op do, 04-05-2006 te 13:50 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: > On Thu, 04 May 2006 05:45:55 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Op wo, 03-05-2006 te 12:46 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui: > >> On Wed, 03 May 2006 10:25:00 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> >

Re: [Amsn-devel] chatwindow menus

2006-05-05 Thread Karel Demeyer
I personally think this doesn't really work for this kind of project. It was shown before that if you propose something but not trn it into code it keeps being discussedd all over again and after all nothing happens or the one with the original idea and motivation loses interest. Also, when you don

Re: [Amsn-devel] chatwindow menus

2006-05-05 Thread Karel Demeyer
What about having some ordened UI that can be reviewed later on by them ? It will take less time for those ppl and make us have less negative response too imo. If you wanna sound somewhat "professional" this wouldn't hurt and they'd might take you more serious. I found out a KDE HIG is in teh wo

Re: find file (Was: Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X)

2006-05-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: > I had it run every day, so it's always up to date, but still it won't > find some files (normal filenames, no special char, simple a to z > ascii), I do a locate on something, no result, do a find, find the file > makes sure I had nothing wrong, do th

[Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
hi there, here we'll do the same as what we didi with 0.95 TODO, which means, keep the TODO list updated before the release, through the emails... current TODO list is : - fix linflash - fix webcam pause + reflector - maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in th

Re: find file (Was: Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X)

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
I had it run every day, so it's always up to date, but still it won't find some files (normal filenames, no special char, simple a to z ascii), I do a locate on something, no result, do a find, find the file makes sure I had nothing wrong, do the locate again with part of the filename exampl

Re: find file (Was: Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X)

2006-05-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: > i always use : > find | grep ... > or > find | grep -i ... > (when locate doesn't work.. it doesn't always work, which is weird...) it IS weird. here it always works, if i have run updatedb recently... otherwise it warns anyway! > > KKRT > > On Fri,

Re: find file (Was: Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X)

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
i always use : find | grep ... or find | grep -i ... (when locate doesn't work.. it doesn't always work, which is weird...) KKRT On Fri, 05 May 2006 10:19:54 -0400, Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: if you use « locate » do a « updatedb » with root access before :) if you use find, you can

Re: find file (Was: Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X)

2006-05-05 Thread Benjamin
if you use « locate » do a « updatedb » with root access before :)if you use find, you can use « find -iname » if you don't care about case !On 5/5/06, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 5 May 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:> What's the command to make a big search on all the har

Re: [Amsn-devel] chatwindow menus

2006-05-05 Thread Lee Olson
On 5/5/06, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: wow, cool, that would be just perfect! I think someone will need to help them get exactly what we need, who wants to work with them ? are we going to use openusability ? I think we should register our project with OpenUsability. It's a good

Re: [Amsn-devel] chatwindow menus

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
wow, cool, that would be just perfect! I think someone will need to help them get exactly what we need, who wants to work with them ? are we going to use openusability ? KKRT On Thu, 04 May 2006 21:38:43 -0400, Karol Krizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 04 May 2006 10:51, Youness

Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X

2006-05-05 Thread Youness Alaoui
If I remember correctly it is a symbolic link (or a copy) of the file Tk or Tcl.. try : diff Framework/Tcl Framework/libtcl8.4.dylib if it says nothing, then the two files are the same and there you got your library. KKRT On Fri, 05 May 2006 02:42:43 -0400, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer <[EMAIL PRO

find file (Was: Re: [Amsn-devel] Improve aMSN compiling on Mac OS X)

2006-05-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: > What's the command to make a big search on all the hard drive via the > terminal? find / -name filename(slow but sure) locate filename (faster) at least these are on Linux:)