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Dear Heather,
the Afghan Islamist reenactment of the 7th century is something
to oppose, but, imposing western values, for the sake of bringing a
country out of the 7th century, is not *necessarily* a good thing.
David O Q
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Raising the specter of a disastrous U.S. humanitarian intervention in
Somalia in the early 1990s in which more than 20 American
servicemen
were killed, Abdiqassim said the United States should fight
terrorism by
pursuing peace, not war.>>>
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Heather,
Though I agree with your position, I tend to try
and examine questions through a variety of paradigms and extract general
principles.
Class, alas, is the prime determinant. The
hyper-patriotic Yankee bourgeoisie have far
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In connection with Somalia, have any of you seen the History Channel promos
for the 'real story' behind 'Black Hawk Down'? The most common comment of
these Somali 'vets' was to the effect of, 'Gee, we had these overwhelming
feeling of hostil
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Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:38 AM
Former U.S. Secretary of State - Syria, Not Iraq,
Should Be Next Target in War Against TerrorGeneral Alexander M.
Haig, Jr., who has held three high ranking positions in past U.S.
administrations,
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I dare say that Second World War German troops sincerely thought that
hostility to them could only emanate from Jews, Bolsheviks and other
"Untermenschen" ("subhumans").
Steve K.
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The Afghan women didn't think so. These were not
necessarily "Western" values.
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Films, like other aspects of media and mass entertainment and communication,
reflect the societies that produce them, and are often a fascinating guide
to social change.
For example, the contemptuous, caricatured portrayal of Custer in the
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Via NY Transfer News * All the News That Doesn't Fit[Spanish
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While the Guardian is often
somewhat better than some of the other bourgeois
news outlets, even
they get caught up in the unquestioned repetition of U.S war propaganda as news, truth and
fact. One glaring example (out of several)
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This helps explain why Russia's ina bit less of a hurry now to
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Just look at the difference between Washington's
approachto its Tali
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Товарищ Heather -
I believe we are together in our assesment of what is good and bad for
humanity, and what the world lost when the USSR went under. With your
permission I'd like to set the additional issues you raise aside for a
moment to as
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"Part of the truth"?? None of the truth, and
racist, jingoistic fantasy, would be a more apt description of the typical
Hollywood horse opera!! This current crop of Hollywood flicks, allegedly
based on current events and recent history
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Hi
Heather - I wonder whether you expect too much of
Gorbachev.
Regarding Gorbachev you say "I cannot imagine anyone who I respect working consciously for
the foundations and think tanks taking blood money to live and "work," as
Mich
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Reuters. 12 January 2002. No Decision on Military Strike on Iraq -U.S.
Envoy.
KUWAIT -- U.S. Assistant Secretary of State William Burns said on
Saturday the United States has yet to decide on whether to use military
force against Iraq and t
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Forward from mart.
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I almost deleted this. Then I read it and sent it on to a bunch of folks. Barry, did you write this? It would be nice to have a discussion about culture and the movement. I was a folksinger in the 1960s, and formed some groups in the 1970s, a
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The Marxist were imposing western values on the people of Afghanistan? Medical care, food distribution, education and female equality are western values?
I'm not a cultural relativist, either.
Silly me. I think addressing the economic and
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In 1999, RFE/RL correspondent Oleg Kusov interviewed young
people inGudermes, the second-largest town in Chechnya. They told him
they wouldfollow the Wahhabi principles because the Wahhabis gave them
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a starting point - whether you favor
anyone from the set Stalin-Putin over Gorbachev?
yes.
Im also curious whether you view him as better or worse t
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GRANMAJanuary 11, 2002Statement from the
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Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
January 12, 2002
Central Asia: U.S. Military Buildup Shifts Spheres Of
Influence By Jean-Christophe Peuch
Even though the U.S.-led campaign in Afghanistan
appears to be drawing to a close, Washington is
buil
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AFP. 12 January 2002. Chechens take Russian military oath for first time
in a decade.
MOSCOW -- Soldiers drafted from secessionist Chechyna to serve in the
Russian army took the military oath on Saturday becoming the first to do
so since th
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Aussie troops could move outside Afghanistan
Australian troops are to remain in Afghanistan and
more soldiers could be sent to other countries as part
of the US-led war against terrorism. Defence Ministe
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DAWN (Pakistan)
12 January 2002 Saturday 27 Shawwal 1422
70 German troops arrive in Afghanistan
BAGRAM AIRBASE, Jan 11: The first German troops taking
part in an international security force in Afghanistan
landed at an airbase outside Ka
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[All is not well in NATO's bombed-out playground.
Hashim Thaci and Ramush Haradinaj, 'former' KLA
chieftans - the second implicated in exterminating an
entire ethnic Serbian village in 1998 - are impeding
the establishment of 'autonomy.' AFP,
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The Frontier Post (Pakistan)
January 12, 2002
"Seleznyov said that Moscow 'does not want U.S. or
NATO Bases to be durably installed' in the former
Soviet republics of central Asia"
Russia for end to US bombing
DUSHANBE (APP): Russia
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New California Media
January 12, 2002
Rome-Washington Axis Undermining Europe
NCM Online, Paolo Pontoniere, Jan 11, 2002 Europe's
march toward federal unity suffered a serious set back
last week with the firing of Italy's Foreign Minister
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"Among the 19 North Atlantic Treaty Organization
allies, Greece was the only one to object vigorously
to the US-led bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999"
Greece Urges Less Troops in Balkans
By BARRY SCHWEID
AP Diplomatic Writer
January 11, 20
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"I want to put a special onus on the British
government...they have tolerated a pogrom against
Catholics in the north of the city (Belfast) and other
parts of the six counties (Northern Ireland) going
back to March of [last] year."
Saturday
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Nazi exhibit triggers art debate in New York
Saturday, January 12, 2002 at 16:00 JST
NEW YORK - An exhibition set to feature Holocaust-related artwork
such as a Lego concentration camp kit and a "
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. In my experiences schools in the First World are institutions funded by blood money to indoctrinate children into acceptance of the class system.
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[Sanctions, threats, an orchestrated international
press campaign, funding and advising opposition
candidates, denouncing election results weeks in
advance of voting.
The strategy failed in Belarus last year, but Blair
never stops trying.]
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Argentine government calls IMF advice "offensive"
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina, Jan 12 (Reuters) -
Argentina's already icy relations with the IMF took a
turn for the worse on Saturday, with a top governme
Heather:
I wasn't very clear. But yes -- if a country imposes western values for the sake of imposing western values (as opposed to righting some injustice), this is imperialism, and is no better than imposing capitalism on the rest of the world. If, on the other hand, a country is interve
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FREE SLOBO !Lettre d'information de la Section
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Ananova :
MoD laptop thefts raise security fears
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An MP has expressed concern after it emerged that nearly 600 laptop
computers had been stolen or had disappeared from the Ministry of Defence.
Figures obtained by L
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"Needless to say, in my 34 years in the classroom I
haven't been engaged in an effort to indoctrinate children into acceptance of
the class system." But by your presence there -accepting the
blood money - aren't you implicitly legitimi
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David
Isn't
there also an issue of freedom that goes thus. They draft someones
son to right a wrong somewhere -and he gets killed. Was his life less valuable
than the lives he was sent to improve?
Second: I suspect that in some s
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Richard,
Bravo sir! Seems we share approximately
similar views. In sum total, though the Soviet Union was involved in many
countries, it generally was in response to either direct security concerns (such
as Afghanistan) or in respon
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SUNDAY, JANUARY 13, 2002
THE TIMES OF INDIA WORLD:
India says 'no' to US mediation on Kashmir
PTI [ SATURDAY, JANUARY 12, 2002 8:04:30 PM ]
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Title:
Bin Laden to Receive Notice of Lawsuits Via Media
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Nicholas Camerota ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you a news article
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Bin Laden to Receive Notice of Lawsuits Via Media
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Nicholas Camerota spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited Observer site and thought you
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American cant
The trea
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