[AsburyPark] Fwd: Dalani Aamon to visit Atlanta to attend Fundraiser for Bernard Burden

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Title: AOL Email It does matter. only the ignorant don't see it. they are still lynching blacks down south.Just got an article, claims he hung himself. racism is alive and well, ask your skinhead friends, and your klansmen. It hasn't stopped. thes

[AsburyPark] SSG Maurice Craft

SSG Maurice Craft is back in Walter Reed Army Hospital Washington D.C. he went in today.Everyone on this site that Donated Time or just Show up that night & started March 11, 2005 to support him want you did is going to help him alot.He knows he has some people in his home town & surrounding are

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

John,   Without getting too much into the sweatshop issue, because I'm not sure you really care, yes - computers, baby's toys, clothing, sneakers, everything you buy in a place like Wal-Mart or Kohls - are made in subcontracted factories operated by mostly Korean and Taiwanese owners, that

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:17:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your missing my point Leslie.  Isn't experiencig no racism "first hand experience" and therefore proof that wieghs on the side of Asbury Park not being a racist City?  Or do you just count one si

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

did you go to China before buying the computer you're typing on? Go in person to the Tech Support Desk in India? I don't know you Leslie, but it's not too great an expectation to think that someone making thousands of dollars communicating on a computer would want to know how that money is gen

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism open to challenging your beliefs

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[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Your missing my point Leslie. Isn't experiencig no racism "first hand experience" and therefore proof that wieghs on the side of Asbury Park not being a racist City? Or do you just count one side of the ledger? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message date

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so how can you expect some basketball star to take a month out of his too brief career to seehow his shoes are made? I don't know you Jersey John, but it's not too great an expectation to think t

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism open to challenging your beliefs

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As far as blue bishop, who or what gives him the right to demand evidence? I LOVE THIS SENTENCE! Pretty much sums up the side of all of you, doesn't it. Yea, you're right. Who am I to demand evidence? How dare I ask

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:03:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your assumption then is only Black people have first hand experience, and white people don't.  What's that called? You are ignoring the offer:  why not go directly to those with firsthand  experie

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

*yawn* next time I go to my parents, you wanna come down to a farm? You wanna see how chickens go from an egg to your grocery store? Wanna see sausage made? Did you ever wonder why it's called "scrapple"? do you know WHY butchers wear white aprons? You're probably too busy in your quests to take

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Your assumption then is only Black people have first hand experience, and white people don't. What's that called? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:38:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Leslie I believe

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:26:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I haven't pointed out that your career depends upon the existance > racism, so if you deny it exists your business becomes obsolete.

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Are members of government in Asbury Park required to disclose their criminal history, and can this information be obtained by the public? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jim called the police out on their excessive force, and after Jim wrote > down their license

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism open to challenging your beliefs

Title: AOL Email As far as blue bishop, who or what gives him the right to demand evidence? He is noone other  than  typewritten ink on the computer like everyone else. All this giving someone a chance to do this and that , and all this i don't kn

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:38:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Leslie I believe I am considering the views of those who disagree with me right now. Are you? I always consider those with firsthand experience to be the primary source of knowledge.  People work

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:38:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd love to have this discussion in front of any scientific community and watch them marvel at your insistance of conclusions with no data.  Would you love to have this discussion at the West Sid

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Then I guess you have your answer Skippy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tommy, you don't have the guts to tell me the insidious word that > caused your apoplexy when you last left this board; however, your > petty arguments and denial of simple f

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Leslie I believe I am considering the views of those who disagree with me right now. Are you? Apparantly if I disagree you, it absolutely can't be because I'm right. I must be because I'm not "open." It takes a presumptuous person to claim the default postion of the world is they are right

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Tommy, you don't have the guts to tell me the insidious word that caused your apoplexy when you last left this board; however, your petty arguments and denial of simple fact are so unrelentingly tedious that I've decided it's time to unleash once again THAT word, which you so fear. You're a sill

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:26:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't pointed out that your career depends upon the existance racism, so if you deny it exists your business becomes obsolete.  So I guess then, that people like us, who have formed nonprofit

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism open to challenging your beliefs

"You are doing the same - why not sit down with people who may give you information that challenges your beliefs rather than listening to Limbaugh-style folks who just reinforces your existing beliefs. Are you open to challenging your beliefs?" Hell no, he won't go; he's a republican, you know mi

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

That bank isn't AP. That's an outsider. You just keep proving my point. Look Jim, you keep ending your posts with attacks about me personally (like below: Nonsence, gameplaying). I'm very serious about this. I haven't pointed out that your career depends upon the existance racism, so if you

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:12:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Had anyone on this board cited instances of racism, I might go.  Until then, I won't go with you in search of racists in Asbury Park, for the same reason I won't go with you in search of mermaids

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism You bet!

"Speak for yourself. Asbury is not racist. Neither is America." Perhaps you're younger than I thought (or you look). Even republicans have parents; ask your parents whether they've ever heard tales of Italians being discriminated against. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism You bet!

Skippy, Speak for yourself. Asbury is not racist. Neither is America. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "And by all of that below are you joining the discussion of whether AP > is or isn't a racist place? I don't think I see you taking a postion

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Had anyone on this board cited instances of racism, I might go. Until then, I won't go with you in search of racists in Asbury Park, for the same reason I won't go with you in search of mermaids, unicorns, space aliens or intellegent liberals. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:02:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm on the floor laughing that you portray racism in epidemic proportions in AP without being able to cite a single instance of it. I'm intellectually dishonest? Tom,   Three people during my

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism You bet!

"And by all of that below are you joining the discussion of whether AP is or isn't a racist place? I don't think I see you taking a postion on the subject." Tommy, we live in a racist nation; it was so with our forefathers, it was so for Blacks, Native Indians, Chinese, Irish, Italians, Polish, Je

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:56:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still waiting for you to list actual incidents, not generalities, of racism in AP.  Tom,   I am still waiting for you to commit to a "walk and meet" with me regarding the race issue.   Peace, JWK

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:48:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lord forbid that they should be taught more games, and giving them basketball courts. That's just something to slow them down. It doesn't take intelligence to play games. As a former pro athlete

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1368

Nope, he offered full price - 100c on the dollar. I intended that. But thanks for asking. Maureen   In a message dated 8/2/2005 12:14:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maureen, I think you ment "ten cents" - 10c on the dollar ?Werner--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EM

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Title: AOL Email i gave you an example the other day. Did you read it or did you just delete it? I know it's here and don't have to rewrite the racism i describe. If you failed to read it or fail to see it, it's on you. I have no reason to lie. Ot

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Altalac48: Still waiting for you to list actual incidents, not generalities, of racism in AP. Or, does just repeating over and over "people are in denial" somehow prove your point that racism exists? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > like i said some fo

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Skippy, And by all of that below are you joining the discussion of whether AP is or isn't a racist place? I don't think I see you taking a postion on the subject. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > `"If I made a negative, sweeping gerneralization

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

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[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

`"If I made a negative, sweeping gerneralization about the Kretzu family, as a member of the family, you would take it as a "personal slap." …those of us that have a familial association with the City take it as a personal slap in the face. Can't help it -it just happens. …someday, as a community

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Title: AOL Email Number 5 lack of recreational activities:  I feel these kids know how to play enough. They need venues that will prepare them to make money besides selling drugs. Teach them and expand their horizons. Open up training and create jo

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:35:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Is it the lack of control in a classroom.2. Blame the teachers for failing to teach3. The "non-parent" factor4. The stability of a household5. The lack of recreational activities6. Drugs and C

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

> For example, you have said yourself that Asbury Park High School >is a de facto segregated school where students get a poorer quality >education than most other schools in Monmouth County. I agree. So who's to blame? 1. Is it the lack of control in a classroom. 2. Blame the teachers for failin

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Jim you say of me: > And to be clear, so that you do not twist my words, yes Tom, I am >saying that you are being immature and along with it, >intellectually dishonest regarding the issue of racism in Asbury >Park. So now you change the subject from racism to attacks about my use of intell

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 3:48:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is my hope that someday, as a community leader in AP, you too will have such a persoanl closeness with this City that you also take it as a personal criticism when you hear a criticism of AP i

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Double teamed by Keady and Kretzu! Unfair! > No, I said three Asbury Park citizens I spoke with prior to the >election said poor black people should just move to Neptune so we >don't have to deal with their problems. This is a paraphrase I am assuming. It isn't clear if this is classism refer

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 3:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we are going to listen to more people claim there is racism, or that the've heard of it, without actually experiencing it like those hypothesizing on this board, what's the point? No.  We're

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Jim, > As for being "a poster-boy" for Asbury Park... I didn't run, nor >was I elected, to be a poster boy. I, on the other hand, will gladly assume the role as poster boy for AP, and I'm quite proud of it. > No Tom. We will walk around AP and talk to people about their >experiences. We

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 2:14:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   <>   No, I said three Asbury Park citizens I spoke with prior to the election said poor black people should just move to Neptune so

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 2:54:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you suggesting that by taking a casual walk around AP we will witness or experience acts of racism committed by fellow Asbury Parkers? No Tom.  We will walk around AP and talk to people about

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

Are you suggesting that by taking a casual walk around AP we will witness or experience acts of racism committed by fellow Asbury Parkers? I hope you aren't suggesting that. That wouldn't exactly make you a poster-boy for Asbury Park tourism, shopping, night-life, etc, Councilman. I will wal

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

In a message dated 8/2/2005 12:28:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry folks but AP is not a racist place. Tom,   On this point, you are delusional.  I would like to invite you for a summer evening walk around AP to explore this issue in the trenches.  Interes

[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

See, you are describing incidents and individuals outside of AP. I stand by my point that AP is the least racist place any of us have been to. Also, asserting the vague "victimology" scenarios below as something that could happen, without actual complaints of them really happening, is racist

[AsburyPark] Racism

The question to be asked is "What is racism?"  If you define racism as overt incidences of discrimination by white people against black people such as hate crimes, name calling, etc... which might be found pre-1964 in the South, then yes, one would say there is no racism in Asbury Park or i

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Racism

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Re: [AsburyPark] HEY JIM.......DO ME A FAVOR.....WILL YOU PLEASE LEARN

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[AsburyPark] HEY JIM.......DO ME A FAVOR.....WILL YOU PLEASE LEARN

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[AsburyPark] First Night This Saturday at WISH YOU WERE HERE

Another First Night is upon us and you know what that means - PARTY TIME! This Saturday's theme is the "Dog Days of Summer" and we have a great line up for the afternoon and the evening.   1. First up, we are participating in the "Seven Continents of Asbury" - a multicultural mix of poetry

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1368

I think you flipped Maurreen - the surrounding towns are not racist. Ocean Township Schools are more integrated then Asbury's. Wasn't that way years ago.we have more rental housing (and affordable if you can use that term)then many communities in Monmouth County. Guess what. Kids learn fro

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[AsburyPark] Re: Racism

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Joe Scott was my neighbor. Lived right across the street.> ~asburyjim wrote:Joe Scott wanted to combine the Neptune & Oakhurst VFW's with theAsbury VFW.Whic