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It does matter. only the ignorant don't see it. they are still
lynching blacks down south.Just got an article, claims he hung himself.
racism is alive and well, ask your skinhead friends, and your klansmen. It
hasn't stopped. thes
SSG Maurice Craft is back in Walter Reed Army Hospital Washington D.C. he went
in today.Everyone on this site that Donated Time or just Show up that night &
started March 11, 2005 to support him want you did is going to help him alot.He
knows he has some people in his home town & surrounding are
thanks for the info...
you can return to your slugfest w/ BB.
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John,
Without getting too much into the sweatshop issue, because I'm not sure you
really care, yes - computers, baby's toys, clothing, sneakers, everything you
buy in a place like Wal-Mart or Kohls - are made in subcontracted factories
operated by mostly Korean and Taiwanese owners, that
> May I have some Victory Gin now please?
LOL! Now see, that's why I like you.
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In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:17:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Your
missing my point Leslie. Isn't experiencig no racism "first hand
experience" and therefore proof that wieghs on the side of Asbury Park
not being a racist City? Or do you just count one si
did you go to China before buying the computer you're typing on? Go
in person to the Tech Support Desk in India?
I don't know you Leslie, but it's not too great an expectation to
think that someone making thousands of dollars communicating on a
computer would want to know how that money is gen
In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:14:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pretty
much sums up the side of all of you, doesn't it.
Oh, conservatives never make sweeping generalizations...thank God we
cleared that up.
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Your missing my point Leslie. Isn't experiencig no racism "first hand
experience" and therefore proof that wieghs on the side of Asbury Park
not being a racist City? Or do you just count one side of the ledger?
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> In a message date
In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so how
can you expect some basketball star to take a month out of his too brief
career to seehow his shoes are made?
I don't know you Jersey John, but it's not too great an expectation to
think t
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As far as blue bishop, who or what gives him the right to demand
evidence?
I LOVE THIS SENTENCE! Pretty much sums up the side of all of
you, doesn't it.
Yea, you're right. Who am I to demand evidence? How dare I ask
In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:03:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Your
assumption then is only Black people have first hand experience, and white
people don't. What's that called?
You are ignoring the offer: why not go directly to those with
firsthand experie
*yawn*
next time I go to my parents, you wanna come down to a farm? You
wanna see how chickens go from an egg to your grocery store? Wanna
see sausage made? Did you ever wonder why it's called "scrapple"? do
you know WHY butchers wear white aprons?
You're probably too busy in your quests to take
Your assumption then is only Black people have first hand
experience, and white people don't. What's that called?
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> In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:38:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> Leslie I believe
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> In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:26:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> I haven't pointed out that your career depends upon the existance
> racism, so if you deny it exists your business becomes obsolete.
Are members of government in Asbury Park required to disclose their
criminal history, and can this information be obtained by the public?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jim called the police out on their excessive force, and after Jim
wrote
> down their license
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As far as blue bishop, who or what gives him the right to demand
evidence? He is noone other than typewritten ink on
the computer like everyone else. All this giving someone a chance to do
this and that , and all this i don't kn
In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:38:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Leslie I
believe I am considering the views of those who disagree with me right
now. Are you?
I always consider those with firsthand experience to be the primary source
of knowledge. People work
In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:38:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd love
to have this discussion in front of any scientific community and watch
them marvel at your insistance of conclusions with no data.
Would you love to have this discussion at the West Sid
Then I guess you have your answer Skippy.
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wrote:
> Tommy, you don't have the guts to tell me the insidious word that
> caused your apoplexy when you last left this board; however, your
> petty arguments and denial of simple f
Leslie I believe I am considering the views of those who disagree
with me right now. Are you?
Apparantly if I disagree you, it absolutely can't be because I'm
right. I must be because I'm not "open."
It takes a presumptuous person to claim the default postion of the
world is they are right
Tommy, you don't have the guts to tell me the insidious word that
caused your apoplexy when you last left this board; however, your
petty arguments and denial of simple fact are so unrelentingly tedious
that I've decided it's time to unleash once again THAT word, which you
so fear.
You're a sill
In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:26:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I
haven't pointed out that your career depends upon the existance racism, so
if you deny it exists your business becomes obsolete.
So I guess then, that people like us, who have formed nonprofit
"You are doing the same - why not sit down with people who may give
you information that challenges your beliefs rather than listening to
Limbaugh-style folks who just reinforces your existing beliefs. Are
you open to challenging your beliefs?"
Hell no, he won't go; he's a republican, you know mi
That bank isn't AP. That's an outsider. You just keep proving my
point.
Look Jim, you keep ending your posts with attacks about me
personally (like below: Nonsence, gameplaying). I'm very serious
about this.
I haven't pointed out that your career depends upon the existance
racism, so if you
In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:12:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Had
anyone on this board cited instances of racism, I might go. Until
then, I won't go with you in search of racists in Asbury Park, for the
same reason I won't go with you in search of mermaids
"Speak for yourself. Asbury is not racist. Neither is America."
Perhaps you're younger than I thought (or you look).
Even republicans have parents; ask your parents whether they've ever
heard tales of Italians being discriminated against.
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Skippy,
Speak for yourself. Asbury is not racist. Neither is America.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "And by all of that below are you joining the discussion of
whether AP
> is or isn't a racist place? I don't think I see you taking a
postion
Had anyone on this board cited instances of racism, I might go. Until
then, I won't go with you in search of racists in Asbury Park, for the
same reason I won't go with you in search of mermaids, unicorns, space
aliens or intellegent liberals.
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In a message dated 8/2/2005 5:02:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm on
the floor laughing that you portray racism in epidemic proportions in
AP without being able to cite a single instance of it. I'm intellectually
dishonest?
Tom,
Three people during my
"And by all of that below are you joining the discussion of whether AP
is or isn't a racist place? I don't think I see you taking a postion
on the subject."
Tommy, we live in a racist nation; it was so with our forefathers, it
was so for Blacks, Native Indians, Chinese, Irish, Italians, Polish,
Je
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I think tom is a debater and that's about it.You can hit him in the
face with a pie and he'll tell you it was
cake.
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In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:56:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Still
waiting for you to list actual incidents, not generalities, of racism in
AP.
Tom,
I am still waiting for you to commit to a "walk and meet" with me regarding
the race issue.
Peace, JWK
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You know what? I might actually like
that.
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In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:48:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lord
forbid that they should be taught more games, and giving them basketball
courts. That's just something to slow them down. It doesn't take intelligence
to play games.
As a former pro athlete
Nope, he offered full price - 100c on the dollar. I intended that.
But thanks for asking.
Maureen
In a message dated 8/2/2005 12:14:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maureen, I think you ment "ten cents" - 10c on the dollar ?Werner--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EM
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i gave you an example the other day. Did you read it or did you just
delete it? I know it's here and don't have to rewrite the racism i
describe. If you failed to read it or fail to see it, it's on you. I have
no reason to lie. Ot
Altalac48:
Still waiting for you to list actual incidents, not generalities, of
racism in AP. Or, does just repeating over and over "people are in
denial" somehow prove your point that racism exists?
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>
> like i said some fo
Skippy,
And by all of that below are you joining the discussion of whether
AP is or isn't a racist place? I don't think I see you taking a
postion on the subject.
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> `"If I made a negative, sweeping gerneralization
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like i said some folk are in deep
denial
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`"If I made a negative, sweeping gerneralization about the Kretzu
family, as a member of the family, you would take it as a "personal
slap."
those of us that have a familial association with the City
take it as a personal slap in the face. Can't help it -it just
happens.
someday, as a community
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Number 5 lack of recreational activities:
I feel these kids know how to play enough. They need venues
that will prepare them to make money besides selling drugs. Teach them and
expand their horizons. Open up training and create jo
In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:35:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Is it
the lack of control in a classroom.2. Blame the teachers for failing to
teach3. The "non-parent" factor4. The stability of a household5.
The lack of recreational activities6. Drugs and C
> For example, you have said yourself that Asbury Park High School
>is a de facto segregated school where students get a poorer quality
>education than most other schools in Monmouth County. I agree.
So who's to blame?
1. Is it the lack of control in a classroom.
2. Blame the teachers for failin
Jim you say of me:
> And to be clear, so that you do not twist my words, yes Tom, I am
>saying that you are being immature and along with it,
>intellectually dishonest regarding the issue of racism in Asbury
>Park.
So now you change the subject from racism to attacks about my use of
intell
In a message dated 8/2/2005 3:48:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is my
hope that someday, as a community leader in AP, you too will have such a
persoanl closeness with this City that you also take it as a personal
criticism when you hear a criticism of AP i
Double teamed by Keady and Kretzu! Unfair!
> No, I said three Asbury Park citizens I spoke with prior to the
>election said poor black people should just move to Neptune so we
>don't have to deal with their problems.
This is a paraphrase I am assuming. It isn't clear if this is
classism refer
In a message dated 8/2/2005 3:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If we
are going to listen to more people claim there is racism, or that the've
heard of it, without actually experiencing it like those hypothesizing on
this board, what's the point?
No. We're
Jim,
> As for being "a poster-boy" for Asbury Park... I didn't run, nor
>was I elected, to be a poster boy.
I, on the other hand, will gladly assume the role as poster boy for
AP, and I'm quite proud of it.
> No Tom. We will walk around AP and talk to people about their
>experiences. We
In a message dated 8/2/2005 2:14:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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No, I said three Asbury Park citizens I spoke with prior to the election
said poor black people should just move to Neptune so
In a message dated 8/2/2005 2:54:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are you
suggesting that by taking a casual walk around AP we will witness or
experience acts of racism committed by fellow Asbury
Parkers?
No Tom. We will walk around AP and talk to people about
Are you suggesting that by taking a casual walk around AP we will
witness or experience acts of racism committed by fellow Asbury
Parkers?
I hope you aren't suggesting that. That wouldn't exactly make you a
poster-boy for Asbury Park tourism, shopping, night-life, etc,
Councilman.
I will wal
In a message dated 8/2/2005 12:28:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry
folks but AP is not a racist place.
Tom,
On this point, you are delusional. I would like to invite you for a
summer evening walk around AP to explore this issue in the trenches.
Interes
See, you are describing incidents and individuals outside of AP. I
stand by my point that AP is the least racist place any of us have
been to.
Also, asserting the vague "victimology" scenarios below as something
that could happen, without actual complaints of them really
happening, is racist
The question to be asked is "What is racism?" If you define racism as
overt incidences of discrimination by white people against black people such as
hate crimes, name calling, etc... which might be found pre-1964 in the South,
then yes, one would say there is no racism in Asbury Park or i
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Like i said , some people are just too blind to see it, or are in
denial.
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if it's the jim i think you are talking about, i think he does have a
problem with writing posts. I think he has seizures. If you can't respect
the people, why don't you stay the hell out of the
group.
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how to spelldid you even graduate from high schoolbuy a damn
dictionary or get off the board..does anyone KNOW if this guy is
brain damaged? ENOUGH!
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1. First up, we are participating in the
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I think you flipped Maurreen - the surrounding towns are not racist.
Ocean Township Schools are more integrated then Asbury's. Wasn't that
way years ago.we have more rental housing (and affordable if you
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Joe Scott was my neighbor. Lived right across the street.>
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