[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for a few others like Asburycouple, NJDave, AsburyCheech, RestoreRadio, and several others; these just come to mind at this late hour. === Gee, Thanks, guess I'm second or

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread rolemover
maybe if you took a shower once in a while, you would get more respect. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Look for a few others like Asburycouple, NJDave, AsburyCheech, RestoreRadio, and

[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

2007-03-08 Thread justifiedright
Wow Mario after reading this I'm convinced you must be a tenured public school teacher. I weep for your students. Can you think for yourself at all? Jump off the Internet and read a book once in awhile. Hitler was a Catholic apostate. Once he became an adult, he never went to a church

[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread rolemover
PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS DANNYBOY --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea Dan, Thats what I thought...ALL TALK --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote: Hey Dan, Your awful quiet on this one, whats up? cat got yer wallet?

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
So then fill us in. Failed would mean stopped? That has not happened. Did the master developer file for bankrupancy? Or are they making a profit. - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:54:39 PM Subject:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
I see money being spent on the waterfont. I believe they are in the process. If they announced that they were done or filing for bankrupancy. That would be a failure. But they have 30 years right? - Original Message From: wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread asburyparkpedaler
What does it say about jimbo, that so many people that know him, would even speculate that he's this miscreant, rolemover. So maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But aren't the parallels and speculation a sad statement? And if it is him, why doesn't the boy's club at the top make him stop

[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread rolemover
YOUR A FAILURE BIKEBOY...A FAILURE...HOW DOES IT FEEL LOSER? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does it say about jimbo, that so many people that know him, would even speculate that he's this miscreant, rolemover. So maybe he is, maybe he

[AsburyPark] JIM BRUNO

2007-03-08 Thread rolemover
Jim Bruno, John Loffredo, and Kevin Saunders are the most honest politicians that Asbury Park has ever seen. I cant speak for the other two, but I know that the three I mentioned are honest. Asbury Park has turned 360 degrees in the positive direction since these 3 honest men were elected 5

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread apchrisa
After reading your post, I felt compelled to respond. This may be the second time I have ever posted to this board. I joined for the same reason as you, hoping to learn more about Asbury. Once in a while that purpose is served however; too often a very negative picture is painted here. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: This country was founded by people with a Christian background who largely rejected organized religion. The fact that they all went to church must

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: You can believe everyone on this board except Tommy (justified right), Fred, Allan and Rolemover/Jimbo. That's really a low blow Dan. I hope

[AsburyPark] Did AP call his previous employer?

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
Former teacher pleads guilty in sex tape case Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 03/8/07 STAFF REPORT TOMS RIVER — A former teacher in the Asbury Park, Toms River Regional and North Brunswick school districts admitted in court today that he secretly videotaped sex with his onetime fiancee and

[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Dan, Your awful quiet on this one, whats up? cat got yer wallet? No. But I have a life sometimes which includes family and clients. Sorry to dissapoint you, neither you, nor your identity are the center of my universe.

[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote: Hand in the cage Dan Hey Dan, Your awful quiet on this one, whats up? cat got yer wallet? No. But I have a life sometimes which includes family and

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see money being spent on the waterfont. I believe they are in the process. If they announced that they were done or filing for bankrupancy. That would be a failure. But they have 30 years right? You are

[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread rolemover
JIM BRUNO IS A GOOD HONEST MAN, AND YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote: Hey Dan, Your awful quiet on this one, whats up? cat got yer wallet? No. But I have a life sometimes

[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
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[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread rolemover
Ask if anyone cares if your happy Dan...Ask people that matter --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: I see money being spent on the waterfont. I believe they are in the process. If they

[AsburyPark] Founding Fathers and Religion

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
I have examined all the known superstitions of the World, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
Did I say sucess? I do not believe I did. I would not make that judgement until it was done. You on the other hand said the Master developer was a failure. Please explain. You always seem to have the inside knowledge so fill us in. - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Maybe i'm wrong about Wesley Grove

2007-03-08 Thread Hinge
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[AsburyPark] Re: CHALANGE TO ALL

2007-03-08 Thread Hinge
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[AsburyPark] Tom - the Book

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
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[AsburyPark] Re: Maybe i'm wrong about Wesley Grove

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless they lied to you. So, I just got off the phone with somebody at Wesley Grove. I was told that Townhomes will be ready for occupacy in about 2 weeks, and the Condo's will be ready this summer beginning in June.

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I say sucess? I do not believe I did. I would not make that judgement until it was done. You on the other hand said the Master developer was a failure. Please explain. You always seem to have the inside

[AsburyPark] It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
Webster's New World Dictionary -- Third College Edition Deism: (1) The belief in the existence of a God on purely rational grounds without reliance on revelation or authority; especially in the 17th and 18th centuries. (2) The doctrine that God created the world and its natural laws, but takes

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
Nothing on the waterfront? North Beach is part of the waterfront and completed units have been sold? - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 2:02:43 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors? --- In [EMAIL

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Maybe i'm wrong about Wesley Grove

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
They must have. Dan said he heard they wanted to dump the entire project - Original Message From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 2:04:51 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Maybe i'm wrong about Wesley Grove --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: From the very beginning Asbury Partners said they were looking for a partner for the BW. Now that they have found one(MM) and the Partners don't find

[AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread justifiedright
Dan, Since the matters I rely upon go beyond what I can merely google but rather are stored within more reliable historical books, you will have to allow me the time to get to my library and type a response which will come from the very men you use in your posts. Beware of posting quotes from

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the very beginning Asbury Partners said they were looking for a partner for the BW. Now that they have found one(MM) and the Partners don't find a way to cnase them I think we'll be surprized of what real money can do.

[AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, Since the matters I rely upon go beyond what I can merely google but rather are stored within more reliable historical books, you will have to allow me the time to get to my library and type a response

[AsburyPark] Re: Primary Sources

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One quick note that justified doesn't read these posts carefully. The first link in my post, was to a PRIMARY Source, the actual Concordat Between the Holy See and the German Reich, _CATHOLIC LIBRARY: Concordat with the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
Ok but there is a deadline on record which has not yet passed. So I find it irresponsible and wrong to say it is a failure at this point. - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 2:48:43 PM Subject: [AsburyPark]

[AsburyPark] Howell Official Full of It

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
Shifting their obligations on places like AP Planner wants to stop change The mayor and Township Council in Howell should oppose legislation that would bar municipalities from selling off their affordable housing requirements to other towns. The bill aims to eliminate regional contributions

[AsburyPark] Re: Howell Official Full of It

2007-03-08 Thread justifiedright
Good to be on the same side of an issue with you bro! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shifting their obligations on places like AP Planner wants to stop change The mayor and Township Council in Howell should oppose legislation that would bar

[AsburyPark] Re: JIM BRUNO

2007-03-08 Thread asburyparkpedaler
IF YOU CAN'T TRUST THE MESSENGER --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Bruno, John Loffredo, and Kevin Saunders are the most honest politicians that Asbury Park has ever seen. I cant speak for the other two, but I know that the three I mentioned are

[AsburyPark] Re: Maybe i'm wrong about Wesley Grove

2007-03-08 Thread asburyparkpedaler
believe half of what you see, none of what you hear --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I just got off the phone with somebody at Wesley Grove. I was told that Townhomes will be ready for occupacy in about 2 weeks, and the Condo's will be ready this

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: You have all the time you need my friend. Washington, Madison, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin other founding fathers were not avid church goers. And what makes a book historical? Age or authorship? Bet he comes up with books by the

[AsburyPark] Police seek man who tried to lure two boys in Asbury

2007-03-08 Thread Hinge
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 03/8/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU ASBURY PARK — Police are searching for the man who tried to lure two boys into his van Tuesday morning. The boys, ages 9 and 11, were walking to school around 8:30 a.m. As they waited for the traffic light

[AsburyPark] Re: Howell Official Full of It

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to be on the same side of an issue with you bro! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: AP stopped taking money 2 years ago. Shifting their obligations on places like AP

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Jim, just be dilligent in your research, there is writing etched firmly into the wall for both sides. Plan several trips here. There is a lot of good, and a lot of bad. There are reasons that this is an emotionally charged issue; most of which are because of our experiences here. Your future

Re: [AsburyPark] Did AP call his previous employer?

2007-03-08 Thread wait_foru
NB probably just swept under the rug... Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Former teacher pleads guilty in sex tape case Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 03/8/07 STAFF REPORT TOMS RIVER — A former teacher in the Asbury Park, Toms River Regional and North Brunswick school districts

[AsburyPark] Re: Did AP call his previous employer?

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wait_foru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true they probally gave them a letter of support. NB probably just swept under the rug... Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Former teacher pleads guilty in sex tape case Posted by the Asbury Park Press

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , In reference to justified comment to you about Google.: Dan, Since the matters I rely upon go beyond what I can merely google but rather are stored within more reliable historical books, you . Over the years, I became evident that he

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Primary Sources

2007-03-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: Take a shortcut. Read Constantine'Take a shortcut. Read Constantine'W between the Catholic Church and the German State. I hear you, but for purposes of a list group, one page, an original document, with signatures from the

Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment to justified: You have all the time you need my friend. Washington, Madison, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin other founding fathers were not avid church goers. And what makes a book historical? Age or authorship? Bet he comes up with

Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread justifiedright
Mario you are starting to creep me out again. When you went on a weird binge about me last year I wondered aloud on this board if you were someone I should be concerned about as a dangerous stalker. Today you again make clear you save many things about me. Either that or you memorize

[AsburyPark] Re: Primary Sources

2007-03-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: Take a shortcut. Read Constantine'Take a shortcut. Read Constantine'W between the Catholic Church and the German State. I meant for more of the background, several

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok but there is a deadline on record which has not yet passed. So I find it irresponsible and wrong to say it is a failure at this point. = I've been

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
Again the current deadlines has not expired. Asbury Partners is still in business, still the master developer. How can this be considered a failure when it is still in progress? - Original Message From: wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday,

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apchrisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i read your post about a half hour ago, read 40 some more, and find it incredible no one commented on you response, you hit the nail on the head, you explained why this city is special, even though we bicker and bust chops,

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again the current deadlines has not expired. Asbury Partners is still in business, still the master developer. How can this be considered a failure when it is still in progress?

[AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: Mario you are starting to creep me out again. When you went on a weird binge about me last year I wondered aloud on this board if you were someone I should be concerned about as a dangerous stalker. Today you again make clear you

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread Allan Peterson
So it is a failure? I am not missing the point. Seem to me that people just want to toss things out there and have nothing to back them up. Somebody define failure. Just becuase it is not going YOUR way does not make it a failure. My point is things are happening and it is irresponsible

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
To potential new neighbor Jim, A few others here worth reading to add to my previous list. Veteran James Grabe. He must be cool because the anonymous posters are often slinging epithets at him. Sharon (_b283) too has a fire in her belly for what she believe. She's got a wonderful life

[AsburyPark] Re: Howell Official Full of It

2007-03-08 Thread oakdorf
AP stopped taking money 2 years ago. That's because: 1) Long Branch got it and actaully has something to show for it. 2) see 1. Oh where oh where have those funds gone and how was it spent? Add those funds to the billion on education. The selling off obligations is bs - many towns

[AsburyPark] Re: Howell Official Full of It

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP spent their money on repairing homes of people who couldn't do it themselves. AP stopped taking money 2 years ago. That's because: 1) Long Branch got it and actaully has something to show for it. 2)

[AsburyPark] Re: Howell Official Full of It

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP spent that money well they just didn't want to be part of that anymore. It's just a way of KEEPING lower income down. AP stopped taking money 2 years ago. That's because: 1) Long Branch got it and

[AsburyPark] Re: Howell Official Full of It

2007-03-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: The RCA program and the Abbott funding is just the 1, 2 punch of segragation. How hard could it be to Appeal the MT Laurel secision and to regioalize

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread asburyparkpedaler
thanks, I think --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To potential new neighbor Jim, A few others here worth reading to add to my previous list. Veteran James Grabe. He must be cool because the anonymous posters are often slinging epithets at him. Sharon

[AsburyPark] Re: My new neighbors?

2007-03-08 Thread justifiedright
Ditto to apchrisa and apooja. Love the positive APers. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apchrisa chrisabate@ wrote: i read your post about a half hour ago, read 40 some more, and find it incredible no one commented on

[AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread justifiedright
Mario I think Jack can attest to the fact that I have not had a bad time with anyone on this board in quite sometime. In fact, since you left last time. Now you're back, and again each of your posts have to be laced with your allegagtions of shortcomings of me personally. So of course we

[AsburyPark] Bill Chinnock has died

2007-03-08 Thread Gary Wien
One of the originators of the Jersey Shore music scene, Bill Chinnock, passed away on Wednesday. We have set up a tribute page for Bill at: http://www.asburymusic.com/billchinnock/ Fans and friends of his can post messages there. Bill was not only a great musician and songwriter but a great

[AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread asburycouple
I will attest to that Tom. I still don't agree with much of what you believe, but your discussions of late have been about beliefs and philosophy and I've enjoyed reading your posts and occassionally getting into a discussion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: It's Long but I have to - Tommy D

2007-03-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
Regarding justified's comments. Mario I think Jack can attest to the fact that I have not had a bad time with anyone on this board in quite sometime. In fact, since you left last time. Now you're back, and again each of your posts have to be laced with your allegagtions of shortcomings