Exactly. Prompting them to learn English benefits them, not just
us, which is why it's never xenophobic to askit of them. It's
compassionate.
Wow, Werner and I agree. I guess if you live long enough you'll see
everthing! ;-)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wow, MM is busy these days...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in minneapolis:
Capital Growth Madison Marquette has signed on to a Paul Bunyan-
sized retail development
in Bemidji.
The Minnetonka commercial real estate firm will develop Pinnacle
Wells Fargo being sued by Baltimore...
The most devastating form of redlining, and the most common use of the term,
refers to
mortgage discrimination. The term redlining was coined in the late 1960s by
community
activists in Chicago. It describes the practice of marking a red line on a map
On one hand I agree with you both - everyone should be strongly
encouraged to learn English in this country.
That said, as a marketing professional I have worked with clients who
focus on the Hispanic community and one of the popular misconceptions
is that people come here and don't want to
having capital when others don't and when others are under duress is
a terrific way to make outstanding retail investments.
Wow, MM is busy these days...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
in minneapolis:
Capital Growth Madison Marquette has signed on
Scott you've given me a business idea.
Why don't we start an Americanization School?
Non-political. Teach grade school level history, seminars on
schools, taxes, law, food, pop-culture, and how to take and pass the
test for citizenship.
Market it to Governments, Corporations, Schools and
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
having capital when others don't and when others are under duress is
a terrific way to make outstanding retail investments.
Even better when the money is NOT yours, but entrusted to you based on your
skills and
ability
...fyi... someone sent me an email correcting my statement that signing is
universal.
Thanks ):
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It is their children who will learn English and have the
opportunities.
There are different types of immigrants who come to this country.
There are professionals, from all different countries, who come to
take a job. Chances are, these folks already speak English very
well. There are folks
I think they are here, right now, tearing down The Shores. Yeah! My
dog is going nuts, but I am glad there will not be a burned out
building just sitting here for years.
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From a moderate democrat to a conservative replublican - I will stand
with you and protest against those who would fight a company helping
their immigrant employees (or non-employees) learn english and become
citizens.
See you at the rally!
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It's a great point you make.
I have a winderful picture hanging in my office. It is from 1928.
About 3 to 4 feet wide.
It's 150 Immigrants being sworn in as citizens at the White House.
President Coolidge did the swearing in. My grandfater is in the
picture, having been sworn in that day.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly. Prompting them to learn English benefits them, not just
us, which is why it's never xenophobic to askit of them. It's
compassionate.
when my daughter took french in school, I had hoped that some day she
My intention there was not to point the word villifying at you -
you have not in your posts and Tom I apologize to you if you feel I
implied that sepcifically regarding you. It was more of a general
statement because many in this country do.
Aside from that, there are two points I was making.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So perhaps rather than simply
villifying those who can't speak the language an effort can be made
to provide an opportunity to learn English?
Who is doing the villifying? Who is clamoring for opportunities to
Just a small deviation from Asbury park to the argument that other
countries accommodate English via dual signage etc therefor
America should reciprocate for other languages also...
Some info found on the web:
English is the primary language of more than 400 million people and
is the second
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey- if we are going to mandate English,
what do we do with deaf people who can only sign?
Signing is a universal language - but few people ever learned it. Try turning
off the sound of
the TV (not a bad idea) and try
I have a friend who needs an apartment for rent in AP for about
$700/month. Also, he has a dog. He owns a local business and, as far
as I know, he is a responsible person. He is also quite handy and I
believe has construction experience. So, if someone perhaps needs
someone to live in a
I think that's a great idea - and count me in. Seriously.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Should read who's with me.
We'll let someone besides me handle the typing classes.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@
What a spirited debate we are having. Education is always a great
idea! I would be willing to teach English - although I have no
education experience :) Mario would probably be a better candidate.
In the meantime, if a certain significant percentage of the
population speaks another language,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only one being extreme is you by characterizing my intent without
having been at the meeting os asking for clarification if there was
some doubt.
I reacted to your post here which, prusuant to your introductory
-how about the BOE offering english classes to families
or we could just create that private service, lease space from the BOE or some
other building
in AP, and get fed funds to do it.
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Amen to that!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@
wrote:
Since Maureen mentioned my comments at the Council meeting I see
that
its stirred up a small debate.
Allow me to clarify what my point
And that is really the point- its is all of our experiences, which
is why we need to be tolerant and understanding.
My family is a big mix, my father's grandparents came from Italy,
never spoke English. My father's parents spoke both, and so on.
My mom's mom came from Belgium as a 19 yr old
No, but if a Korean person was murdered and the only witnesses to
the crime were Korean family members who only speak Korean (actually
not unusual in Bergen County), there would at least be a Korean
interpreter who would help the police interview the witnesses.
And, if there was a town that
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This discussion has moved off of its original focus. If AP has a
hispanic affairs liason and some officers speak spanish, then we are
doing the right thing.
But what it moved onto quickly was xenophobia.
Did you find any
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was raised in an Italian immigrant neighborhood in Boston and I
don't remember anyone telling me I had to learn Italian.
Yeah, the Irish really welcomed those wops to Boston, and Brooklyn,
and Philly.
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My favorite American of Italian Descent speaks on English Only.
Go Joey! Go Joey! Go Joey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNHJCQDyIA
My response to Joey Vento - Stronzata!
While I agree with him and that I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My father came here after WW I and spoke badly broken English until
he died
at age 90, nearly 70 years later. He and many of his generation of
immigrants preferred to live in Italian enclaves and speak Italian
among
I just won a case against Wells Fargo.
They have so many foreclosures they can't keep track of them. They
sued my client, who not only never was even late with a payment, HE
NEVER HAD A MORTGAGE WITH WELLS FARGO.
It still took about 6 months to convince them that my client never
had a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since Maureen mentioned my comments at the Council meeting I see that
its stirred up a small debate.
Allow me to clarify what my point was, and it is very Asbury Park
related.
First off- the Police department was being
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my first life, I was in love with a French girl who lived in
Strasbourg. I moved there for awhile to live with her. We spent week
days in the city, and on weekends we'd go visit her parents in
Turkheim, which is a
Ha
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote:
In my first life, I was in love with a French girl who lived in
Strasbourg. I moved there for awhile to live with her. We spent week
days in the
I did R Stone for Spanish for a while, but then I did not have the
time. I thought it was worth it, well done. It is one of those
things I keep meaning to do again, both for Spanish and French.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:04:20
No flames intended! Just was giving simple examples, MOST people can
understand. The only argument I have is, you can't clump blame on
everyone!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sharon,
While I appreciate your Economics 101 lesson, don't muddy the
water by
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like most of your positions, they are too extreme. Smell the coffee
brewing. If you think that a police department in a city that has a
large population of specific immigrants should not have someone with
proficiency to
LOL! I died laughing! Joey endorses the 1st Italian-American! He
just contradicted himself! In the 1st video, he exclaims, he hates
hyphenated Americans! Says he's an American of Italian descent! In
second video, read the first line, above. He also suffers from
Half-Heimers, just remembers
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
to an American who did not speak French- the international language
of
love).
My mom's father was Jewish and spoke English and some Yiddish. His
grandparents spoke Yiddish and Russian.
In my second life I intend
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In my first life, I was in love with a French girl who lived in
Strasbourg. I moved there for awhile to live with her. We spent week
days in the city, and on weekends we'd go visit her parents in
Turkheim, which is a beautiful wine producing town.
Those were the days...
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When our PD isn't losing guns, they kick ass!
Go Mark! Both he and Chris are nice guys and good cops, and in lot
better shape than most of us.
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When our PD isn't losing guns, they kick ass!
Asbury Park police chief chases down suspect
BY MICHELLE SAHN JANUARY 11, 2008
ASBURY PARK In October, Asbury Park Police Chief Mark Kinmon ran a marathon.
On
Tuesday, his run in the city was more like a sprint, but it ended with the
chief
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
Is there a new Tommie (sic)?
I'm curious as to what the old one was like ;-)
Seriously though, you haven't noticed? I'm a new man!
must be that
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been tempted by Rosetta Stone lessons in Italian. They're
touted as #1
among corporate in-service programs. Anyone have any experience
with them.
Price sounds steep, but could be because it's an effective program
In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:04:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have not heard Italian spoken in my family in 20+ years. I miss it
so much that I just began taking lessons in Manhattan one night a
week. It's much tougher when you are older.
I miss it too. My
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a new Tommie (sic)?
I'm curious as to what the old one was like ;-)
Seriously though, you haven't noticed? I'm a new man!
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ASBURY PARK An Asbury Park community leader convicted in May of
sexually assaulting an 8-year-old girl in his care was sentenced to
eight years in prison this afternoon.
Warren Hall, 48, of Asbury Park, admitted he was guilty in a speech to
Superior Court Judge Paul F. Chaiet before the
In a message dated 1/11/2008 3:43:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When our PD isn't losing guns, they kick ass!
Asbury Park police chief chases down suspect
A funny story. But this one stole the thunder for today:
_Corpse Wheeled to Check-Cashing Store Leads
In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:13:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My response to Joey Vento - Stronzata!
Add to the list of Disgraziato: Angelo Mozilo, son of a Bronx butcher, CEO
of Countrywide, who has a half billion exit package, leaving behind livid
In a message dated 1/11/2008 2:05:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No flames intended! Just was giving simple examples, MOST people can
understand. The only argument I have is, you can't clump blame on everyone!
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, While I
The name sounds famliar, but can't picture it at the moment. where is it?
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