[AsburyPark] Re: Evangelizing

2008-09-11 Thread evosap
not sure what you mean by this. do you mean that you have been questioning the SA? if yes could you let me know why? thanks, gabrielle Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your

[AsburyPark] Re: Lawn Cutting

2008-09-11 Thread evosap
there is a guy named Rodney who lives in the building across from the senior tower who does lawn work for people. he's quite a character and has been a delight to me for the past few years. he seems to have worked for the same people over the years and looks to do a decent job. i often wake to

[AsburyPark] Thought-Provoking Documentary Explores Ways To Combat Gang Violence In New Jers

2008-09-10 Thread evosap
Celebrated Police Captain turned multi award-winning filmmaker Donna Roman (D.R.) Hernandez today announced that her latest film Newark Street Preachers has been selected for exhibition at the New York International Independent Film and Video Festival (NYIIFVF). Tickets are selling very fast for

[AsburyPark] Re: Evangelizing

2008-09-10 Thread evosap
Sharon, Please ask for PROOF of the evangelizing. I never got the impression that they demand some sort of conversion. If I am such a mess that I end up in a shelter like that, being told that the Jesus version of a path to god is the best is not going to hurt me too much. AA, NA etc use

[AsburyPark] Re: Evangelizing

2008-09-10 Thread evosap
everything you quoted came from the side that wanted the shelter out. that doesn't prove all that much. thats like only listening to the republican speeches and deciding the democrats are all liars and cheats. i visited the shelter in morristown and heard about their program which involved

[AsburyPark] Homeless Shelter

2008-09-09 Thread evosap
i wanted to share some incomplete thoughts on the homeless shelter drama. i initially strongly supported it. it is less important to me now for a variety of reasons, i am neither for or against it. recently, i heard the best argument against the shelter that i never heard put forth by the

[AsburyPark] Re: What's up with the moderating posts message

2008-09-08 Thread evosap
I can completely understand the reaction to moderate due to the heated back and forth that can happen on boards like this. however, it puts such an added disconnect between people. email and posting is already disconnected. it has taken me years to realize how un-ideal electronic communication

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-29 Thread evosap
Thanks for setting me straight re your old article I will send my email. There is a new book out slavery by another name, haven;t read it but listened to author. He documents the continued efforts to enslave black americans with phony charges and work camp prisons up to the30s or 40s.

[AsburyPark] Re: Speech Tonight

2008-07-23 Thread evosap
hey...didn't you write that there was no big deal in the jew couple incident over at whatever the lake house used to be? ..different because it was a server? could be. or because you are italian? i recently asked dan for a copy of that piece, which he didn't have. i remember really enjoying

[AsburyPark] Great Article in Atlantic

2008-07-03 Thread evosap
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/memphis-crime great article about the complexities of poverty, gov assistance, crime and redevelopment in cities. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Predictions for Fourth of July, 2013

2008-07-03 Thread evosap
Is restoring what were once single family BACK into SINGLE family homes gentrification? no, but leveling viable and affordable housing to put up condos that a small fraction of the community can afford is. isn't it? the apartment bdlg on the block of wonder bar is a prime example. i am glad

[AsburyPark] Why can't Asbury have this kind of redevelopment?????

2008-02-18 Thread evosap
Be sure to go to the page and look at the slide show. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/arts/design/19hous.html?8dpc The New York Times February 19, 2008 Architecture Learning From Tijuana: Hudson, N.Y., Considers Different Housing Model By NICOLAI OUROUSSOFF If you doubt that the derelict

[AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On The Tipping Point

2007-12-12 Thread evosap
wow..heady shit for the list. idea viruses are also called memes richard dawkins apparently came up with the name long before gladwell, though i mean to get that book...its pretty fascinating to think about how many memes exist, how they restrict us, control us. i gotta wonder if geibel and co

[AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On The Tipping Point

2007-12-12 Thread evosap
due process brennan? christmas lights brennan? people get high on money and ideas. i am amazed how many people get sucked into it, the falsity. i mean...look at the ads, the facades with the two by fours holding them up. remember the murals of the shop fronts? maybe we should ask them if

[AsburyPark] Re: Shortages at food banks worst in 26 years

2007-12-10 Thread evosap
sorry about resurrecting such an old post but http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10252015 Economist.com Food prices The end of cheap food Dec 6th 2007 From The Economist print edition Rising food prices are a threat to

[AsburyPark] Re: This too shall pass.

2007-12-10 Thread evosap
oh good, does that mean you'll be leaving? Greed always falls. No town needs million dollar condos. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings

[AsburyPark] Re: my daughter

2007-12-10 Thread evosap
haunted by corruption and greed. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join

[AsburyPark] Re: Delusions of Grandeur

2007-12-10 Thread evosap
you are ridiculous! i didn't like the shit on the bwalk...i loved ap despite itdoesn't seem like the millionaires will be payin the taxes either, and where did i call for anarchy? wake you! how many times can the same story fail before people call out the bullshitters and the greedy.

[AsburyPark] Re: Cut the loss

2007-12-10 Thread evosap
of course it comes down to economics, and people who don't understand economics but love the idea of millionaires on the beach. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email |

[AsburyPark] Re: Delusions of Grandeur

2007-12-10 Thread evosap
oh I just figured out where your call for anarchy comment came fromthe open seats on city council...that's called democracy. when leaders fail, they get replaced...something my family and maybe yours fought hard for a few hundred years ago. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group

[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
Did you vote for him?maybe that's what you are getting punished for. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Shortages at food banks worst in 26 years

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
I agree with you. I would never buy a wii game for a giving tree. Basketballs, art supplies, mittens, simple toys...kids don't need what they want. The kids i know who don't have much are getting shoe boxes filled with art supplies, writing tools, writing pads, fun chewable vitamins, kid tooth

[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
assuming i think you should vote for bill's wife when i suggest you got what you deserve for supporting a criminal and a liar is a leap...a pretty big one. you have lots of simple democrats on estrogen in your life? ron paul is looking decent to me...the only one so far to support the american

[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
your right...didn't read it...reading malkin would be like listening to limbaugh. there is a world of possibilities beyond clinton and bush..they both bore the shit out of me Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your

[AsburyPark] Re: Shortages at food banks worst in 26 years

2007-12-02 Thread evosap
I am willing to believe that food banks are as capable of using propaganda as much as the Bush admin...its just that food prices are rising. and smart commodity folks are calling for a soft commodity bull market. add to that water issues, chinas growth, the use of corn for fuel, the all time

[AsburyPark] Re: Little League - SUFA

2007-12-02 Thread evosap
you better convince SUFA that having a little league field in AP will increase their property values. i will happily be wrong, but they don't give a rat's ass about kids in AP. they had one issue in mind. and it wasn't the welfare of anyone here. it was their welfare only. Yahoo! Groups

[AsburyPark] Re: Anybody check out the Xmas market in CH?

2007-11-27 Thread evosap
oh god...i was gushing with infatuation after having a couple a beers by the tree. cannot wait for the fireworks! and for shiver to open! i love MM! don't know how they deal with the goons. maybe they will do a fun dance party with a great dj (AP needs to work on the dj pool imo)..though what

[AsburyPark] Re: A Respsonse to Mr. Vail

2007-11-17 Thread evosap
I am so grateful for Keady. As far as I have been able to tell, he is the only council person who understands that politics is about SERVICE. I can identify with his tendency to poke. Its hard for me not to, but I am quickly realizing that I need to grow up and learn more intelligent ways to

[AsburyPark] How do we reduce our deficit?

2007-11-17 Thread evosap
I decided to start a fresh topic for this. In many ways its simple, no? Reduce costs, increase revenue. Lets have fun with ideas. All in the spirit of brainstorming. allow the off the wall! a historic tour with one of ap's many passionate and knowledgeable historians who volunteer, charge

[AsburyPark] Re: FBI's Monmouth County Corruption Targets

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
Thanks for posting this. When I look at this list, I thinkwho is currently serving AP at the moment that will be on this list 2 years from now? There is noone that would surprise me. Somehow, public servants have to be held to SERVICE more often. The Center for Civic Responsibility is a

[AsburyPark] Re: All the Venom in the State spewed in Monmouth County???

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
These chicks are making me ashamed of my gender. I wish I had a little of their ambition though. How do people work that hard? One of the funniest things is to look at the legislation that Beck has put forward. So much of it is such nonsense (i didn't look at karcher's yet). Yahoo!

[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove for Downsizers

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
I love Rollins...saw him at the paramount a few years back. Don't have a TV though Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Salt Water Cafe - is it just me?

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
I had yummy yummy food there in the beginning of the summer, nice ppl, spent a ridiculous amount of time at the beach bar...friday night of road trip there was one of the funnest nights of my life even though the bartender and i were the only ones dancing (made me concerned for the hip health of

[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove for Downsizers

2007-11-01 Thread evosap
Oh god I love that man. I remember watching him some time ago and I started to realize that he was lecturing. not just being funny, though he always is. he was calling us on our bullshit. yeah preaching never works. i worked in a vegan organic restaurant for years and there IS such a thing as

[AsburyPark] Re: THE PATHOLOGY OF THE VIDEO GAME MARIO THE PLUMBER

2007-10-27 Thread evosap
Google Gay Shame there's a great Alternet article. Oh, I wrote an apology for suggesting some of you here could use a BJ. Jack thought I was having a drunken breakdown. I wasn't drinking. I just forget that most people were raised in an environment of sex=shame.I wasn't. And ya'll don't

[AsburyPark] a gift i wish i was giving you

2007-10-27 Thread evosap
i hope you saw the moon tonight. cruising around on my bike, i had my camera, no tripod so the photos i took were...well..the photos of an amateur taking photos at night with no tripod. it was stunning. the moon, not the photos. i thought, oh good, something i can give...one of my many

[AsburyPark] Re: a gift i wish i was giving you

2007-10-27 Thread evosap
actually, one of the photos is kinda sweet. looks like a heart, and if you look reeeaaay close, you can see a little reflection www.wakingupinasbury.com --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hope you saw the moon tonight. cruising around on my bike, i

[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...

2007-10-25 Thread evosap
of course i am a whack job on this list. i don't hate poor people living in asbury has been nothing but good times for me since i moved here 4 years ago of course that is altered a bit by now being more aware of the haters here. most on this list seem to live tortured existences, complaining

[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread evosap
If only you guys were into watching the terry weldons as opposed to petty crime! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread evosap
PROTECTED] wrote: Remember one thing nine times out of ten you have to go to the little people to get the big people Sometimes the petty things turn into something big. - Original Message From: evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 25

[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...

2007-10-24 Thread evosap
Your right...given a stake. The only thing is Asbury seems to have a hatred of the less than wealthytherefore zero affordable housing. the west side is treated as though it is a prison and anyone who crosses the tracks an invader into the privileged white gay world. the folks on this

[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press

2007-10-22 Thread evosap
Thanks for your perceptions Werner. Maybe as citizens, we are foolish to expect those politicians who currently find themselves in power to solve problems as complex as gangs. I have been to enough town meetings to have a minimal amount of faith in the ability of some folks to deal with such

[AsburyPark] Project Object at The Asbury Lanes Sat Eve

2007-10-10 Thread evosap
ZAPPA ZAPPA ZAPPA ZAPPA Project Object is playing at the Lanes Sat eve 13th 10ish I am guessing Moved from the Pony http://projectobject.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual

[AsburyPark] Re: This HUGELY pisses me off!

2007-10-10 Thread evosap
I love it when men overreact...makes me feel not so bad about my estrogen driven overreactions. you do sound like a bunch of old ladies. I think it looks cool...reminds me of the tunnel ride I used to love. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the story with the Stone Pony?

2007-10-06 Thread evosap
Thank you! It's probably the combo platter corp between MM and AP. O boy! complexities complexities. what to do? i have NO idea but if Asbury loses that place it deserves to rot in shame til the end of eternity.unfortunately i don't think MM or AP gets the dif between wealth and cash.

[AsburyPark] Is Springteen Being Political?

2007-10-05 Thread evosap
Or is he being a heartbroken American, talking about his experience the way so many celebrities do, though most of them, like so many Americans are too afraid to question, watch and feelgenuinely. Politics doesn't exist is some separate realm, vacuum-sealed from our daily lives, it exists all

[AsburyPark] Re: $10,000.00 to Bruce's Favorite Charity

2007-10-05 Thread evosap
You don't need to have a discussion with him to judge his political acumen. I don't think that is what he was trying to do..prove his political prowess. It seems he is simply stating his concern about some recent events in our country...is he wrong? Did illegal wiretapping occur? Have people

[AsburyPark] Re: Springsteen Answers Critics

2007-10-05 Thread evosap
I thought I posted this earlier. I really could use some enlightening on this. How is asking how and why wiretapping, torture, and voter purging are happening political? Do you really think that only someone with a political background is allowed to address these issues? We are taught

[AsburyPark] What's the story with the Stone Pony?

2007-10-05 Thread evosap
I tried to search, so I wouldn't have to post something I imagine has been discussed here but...what's the story? who owns it, who is in charge of its fate? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings:

[AsburyPark] Re: Mayor's Ball Article in Coaster Today

2007-10-04 Thread evosap
What so you mean by the hand? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join

[AsburyPark] Re: Mayor's Ball Article in Coaster Today

2007-10-04 Thread evosap
thanks for the giggle! My impression from attending the meetings is that most of the folks have lost all sense of service. Loffredo at the Homebuyers breakfast in the summer acting as both broker and councilman made me and others a little uncomfortable...he was the only broker there and I believe

[AsburyPark] Re: Mayor's Ball Article in Coaster Today

2007-10-04 Thread evosap
: apboardwalk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoogroups.com. Learn more To: evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Mayor's Ball Article in Coaster Today th broker and councilman made me and others a little uncomfortable...he was the only

[AsburyPark] Re: Mayor's Ball Article in Coaster Today

2007-10-04 Thread evosap
thanks oak...you are right..i was being reactionary. need to check that! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: See You Sunday!

2007-10-03 Thread evosap
culture. Thought you would be into people celebrating their diverse cutltures (or doesn't that count for the American culture?). The landing has been an Asbury Park staple for more than 50 years. This year will be better than ever. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap

[AsburyPark] More Condos In AP?

2007-10-02 Thread evosap
Its a humorous thought really. Pending US sales lowest since recorded (2001) By region, the Northeast decreased 8.3% in August from July; it fell 18.3% from August 2006. The Midwest fell 2.9% in August from July; it fell 18.0% since August 2006. The South decreased 9.5% in August from July; it

[AsburyPark] Re: More Condos In AP?

2007-10-02 Thread evosap
Oh and I forgot the scariest mortgage resets don't even begin til Jan 08! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a humorous thought really. Pending US sales lowest since recorded (2001) By region, the Northeast decreased 8.3% in August from July

[AsburyPark] Re: See You Sunday!

2007-10-02 Thread evosap
SO whose property is getting stolen and who is getting raped and murdered to reenact what happened to the Native American people? Are you really that deluded? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Events for 10/7/2007 Start Time 1:00 PM Title

[AsburyPark] Re: See You Sunday!

2007-10-02 Thread evosap
. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SO whose property is getting stolen and who is getting raped and murdered to reenact what happened to the Native American people? Are you really that deluded? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright

[AsburyPark] Re: See You Sunday!

2007-10-02 Thread evosap
Wonderful! Then be sure to read from his diary: They ... brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks' bells. They willingly traded everything they owned... . They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome

[AsburyPark] Re: Is there any way to remove Asbury Partners from Asbury?

2007-10-01 Thread evosap
At the Wonder Bar last night my favorite moment was when the singer of Paperback Radio told the story of talking to his dad about AP. His dad's comment was The problem with AP is the 3 gangs, the crips, the bloods and the Partners . Despite many being disturbed by the poor and panhandlers, the

[AsburyPark] Re: You don't have to homophobic to question gay people

2007-09-30 Thread evosap
community in Asbury Park stepping up and doing the hard work of the middle class. We finally have the protection we need. Our gratitude to the gay community here knows no limit at this point. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap gabrielleobre@ wrote: God no, homophobia

[AsburyPark] You don't have to homophobic to question gay people

2007-09-29 Thread evosap
! How do you think Springsteen would feel about the Mission? Thanks for the conversation! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap gabrielleobre@ wrote: The chairman of zoning takes the cake. Queen fool

[AsburyPark] Re: Is Anybody in Love out there!

2007-09-29 Thread evosap
can go on and on, but you get the picture. Live and LET live, is my philosphy! If someone wants to marry a statue of Buddha, who am I? To my Gay Friends, God Loves You and So Do I! Amen! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap gabrielleobre@ wrote: Thanks for posting this. Loved

[AsburyPark] (unknown)

2007-09-28 Thread evosap
Thanks for posting this. Loved Springsteen when I was 11. Moved through a stage of being over it. Springsteen fans turned me off him, they seem to love the music but don't get the message. Then I have had to deal with him and all the groupies here, in this luscious town I live in. Forced to