[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-11 Thread terrariumlife
If you want to find the real potential racists, I think you need to head over to the APP.com article comment sections. There you can read between the lines and find some thinly veiled racism, as well as out right ignorance. I would focus my energy there, or, maybe not. It depends on how much

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-11 Thread JS John
Agree with you about the APP board. Scary and depressing. On Aug 11, 2011, at 1:31 PM, terrariumlife wrote: If you want to find the real potential racists, I think you need to head over to the APP.com article comment sections. There you can read between the lines and find some thinly veiled

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-11 Thread oakdorf
That's the real problem with social media. Uncontrolled - if you let it be. Worthless waste of time. Our parents at least had time to read or tend to the house or work. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, JS John jerseyshorejohn@... wrote: Agree with you about the APP board. Scary and

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread fancypaaantz
-Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:45 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night as a landlord, you can get he place ready for a co and pass

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread fancypaaantz
Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:45 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night as a landlord, you can get he place ready for a co and pass - then the tenant moves in. Sometimes you get good tenants - and sometimes

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady jim@... wrote: Two young men shot in the streets and the conversation vacillates between Vespas, dogs and firearms. Seemingly no concern for the well-being of the young men, concern if their families need anything, etc. Why? Because the

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread Hinge
I find the statement But for many on this list, again, the assumption is that it's just another young n-gg-r shot in the ghetto. to be incredibly offensive. I don't assume anything, and reading back thru the thread I'm not seeing anybody else doing so either. If anything, we are pretty much fed

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread Vinnie
Jim - sounds like you're projecting a bit here, but to make that assumption would make me look as bad as this rant reflects on you. Why not channel that frustration into something a little more productive than a drive-by beating of a couple of people on an internet message board seen by a

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread fancypaaantz
Jack, I think what he is saying is, since our conversation was about Vespas, firearms and self-protection rather than expressing the requisite amount of outrage for the fact that two young people were shot, we are basically racists and heartless. My point is that most people on this group have

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread Hinge
I know exactly what he's saying, and for all the good he does in the world concerning things like Nike and their abuses, my personal opinion of him just took a nose dive. Jim projects his own assumption by accusing others of the same. If you are following this thread Jim, do me a favor - before

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread cbrianwatkins
@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Two young men shot in the streets and the conversation vacillates between Vespas, dogs and firearms. Seemingly no concern for the well-being of the young men, concern if their families need anything

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread 2fast4u
...And if it wasn't for the Blacks, they'rd be NO Billions for those in charge to eff up, okay? Like Jim says, nobody on this board cares, JUST because they're Black! How about some JOBS? I've notice for at least 2 years that CERTAIN people's kids get jobs, while those that LIVE here get the

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread Hinge
Sharon - You also lost my respect thanks to this comment Like Jim says, nobody on this board cares, JUST because they're Black! The fact of the matter is, nobody brought up race when I original posted the story. Then Jim came along and made a horrible, baseless comment, and now you just added

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread cbrianwatkins
@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night ...And if it wasn't for the Blacks, they'rd be NO Billions for those in charge to eff up, okay? Like Jim says, nobody on this board cares, JUST because they're Black! How about some JOBS? I've notice for at least 2 years

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread 2fast4u
If I ever had it, thanks for nothing. Well, unless it's about YOU, everything else is irrelevant! With you, at first it was about library park and the lightlessness and what you described as criminal activities occurring there. #1, I'd never ALLOW myself to live in such an atmosphere and in

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread fancypaaantz
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night ...And if it wasn't for the Blacks, they'rd be NO Billions for those in charge to eff up, okay? Like Jim says, nobody on this board cares, JUST because they're Black! How about some JOBS? I've notice for at least 2 years that CERTAIN

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread 2fast4u
2011 19:05:21 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night ...And if it wasn't for the Blacks, they'rd be NO Billions for those in charge to eff up, okay? Like Jim says, nobody on this board cares, JUST

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread fancypaaantz
This is also a group to speak about Asbury Park, so with all due respect, I am not sure it is appropriate to discuss white collar criminals generally unless they have something specifically to do with Asbury Park. I do recall many threads here about the various companies involved here and the

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread Hinge
You are incredibly off base. I joined this group when I moved here 6 years ago to learn more about my community outside of what the media says about it. 1st thing I noticed was the horrible way Library Square was being treated, and I tried to do something about it, and I succeeded for awhile.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread cbrianwatkins
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night ...and everything YOU post is why isn't AP not more like NYC? Didn't ask if you cared or not which is obvious you don't. I'm Black and proud of it. I lived through segregation

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-10 Thread fancypaaantz
If it is the same Jim Keady- Facebook says Spring Lake. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady jim@ wrote: Two young men shot in the streets and the conversation vacillates between Vespas, dogs and firearms.

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread oakdorf
. The only problem I had last night in AP was almost getting run down crossing Ocean Ave when some guy on a red vespa came whipping around the Empress onto ocean ave... As I overheard one cop tell someone - watch yourselves, stay in well lit areas and if you don't have to go to Long

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Hinge
Yeah, things are getting a bit ugly. It really bothers me to see boardwalk employees walking in the shadows to their cars between 10 and 11 at night. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: . The only problem I had last night in AP was almost getting run down

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread dfsavgny
BS. That was me. I slowed. Thats was you on the bike coming off the BW? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: . The only problem I had last night in AP was almost getting run down crossing Ocean Ave when some guy on a red vespa came whipping around the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread cbrianwatkins
more shootings last night Yeah, things are getting a bit ugly. It really bothers me to see boardwalk employees walking in the shadows to their cars between 10 and 11 at night. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: . The only problem I had last night in AP

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: . As I overheard one cop tell someone - watch yourselves, stay in well lit areas and if you don't have to go to Long Branch or Asbury, then don't, cause it's out of control. You should have gotten the cops name and

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Yeah, things are getting a bit ugly. It really bothers me to see boardwalk employees walking in the shadows to their cars between 10 and 11 at night. Coming out from seeing Spring Awakening sat night and walking down ocean for a

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Hinge
Nice job Dan! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Yeah, things are getting a bit ugly. It really bothers me to see boardwalk employees walking in the shadows to their cars between 10 and 11 at night.

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread oakdorf
no - I was punching in the hours on the meter. heard the buzzing coming buy... looked up and there you go... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: no - I was punching in the hours on the meter. heard the buzzing coming buy... looked up and there you go... for the record, it was not a Vespa, but a 2009 Stella which for all intents and purposes, is an old Vespa PX150.

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Hinge
What's the ballpark price of one of those? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: no - I was punching in the hours on the meter. heard the buzzing coming buy... looked up and there you go... for

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread cbrianwatkins
: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:24:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night What's the ballpark price of one of those? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread dfsavgny
The 2009 is the last of the 2-stroke engines (oil/gas mix) which is why I go it. The 4 stroke is out now. I think same price. the nearest dealer is ilsand scooters in brielle on 35 south. I didnt get it from them . They didnt want to deal. The msrp is like 3599 then you get hit with prep, tax

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread dfsavgny
-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night What's the ballpark price of one of those? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: no - I was punching

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread fancypaaantz
And stay in well lit, busy areas! More cars and people the better. Walk as little as possible in residential areas, and always try to walk in front of a business if there is a choice. When I was at NYU (early 90s), kids always got mugged trying to cut through on 10th street (residential). If

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread fancypaaantz
And if it is just a mugging/jacking, cooperate and give them what they want. Your car, wallet, etc is not worth it. If it is not a mugging and they are trying to take you- do not cooperate. Kick, scream (CALL 9-1-1), use that key to jab in eye, and do whatever you can to not be removed from

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread cbrianwatkins
@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:08:14 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night And if it is just a mugging/jacking, cooperate and give them what they want. Your car, wallet, etc is not worth it. If it is not a mugging

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread fancypaaantz
: fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:08:14 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night And if it is just a mugging/jacking, cooperate and give them what

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread cbrianwatkins
20:36:39 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night I meant Know where. Typing quickly. I ran into a friend right after I rescued my dog and he laughed that it was a good AP dog, No one will F*** with you

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread fancypaaantz
-Original Message- From: fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:08:14 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night And if it is just a mugging/jacking

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Hinge
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night And if it is just a mugging/jacking, cooperate and give them what they want. Your car, wallet, etc is not worth it. If it is not a mugging and they are trying to take you- do not cooperate. Kick

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Many of the AP criminals do their crap on stolen bicycles. One part of the solution would be to require all bikes in AP to be registered. This would probably lead to lot's of stolen bikes being impounded and/or returned to their

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Hinge
Absolutely. I saw 2 AP bike cops the other day. I just bought a Blackbury Flea headlight to go along with the taillight of the same name. You can either charge them via USB or solar cell. Both are tiny, super bright and you can put them in your pocket when you park your bike. --- In

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread cbrianwatkins
@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:29:00 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Many of the AP criminals do their crap on stolen bicycles

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread cbrianwatkins
: Two more shootings last night Absolutely. I saw 2 AP bike cops the other day. I just bought a Blackbury Flea headlight to go along with the taillight of the same name. You can either charge them via USB or solar cell. Both are tiny, super bright and you can put them in your pocket when you park

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Hinge
@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:33:20 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Absolutely. I saw 2 AP bike cops the other day. I just bought a Blackbury Flea headlight to go

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread cbrianwatkins
hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:33:20 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Absolutely. I saw 2 AP bike cops the other day. I just bought a Blackbury Flea headlight

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Hinge
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=Blackburn+Fleax=0y=0 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Jack do you have

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread jwkeady
Two young men shot in the streets and the conversation vacillates between Vespas, dogs and firearms. Seemingly no concern for the well-being of the young men, concern if their families need anything, etc. Why? Because the assumption is that they are black, they are gang members, and they got

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread oakdorf
Jim, I think you may be pushing it with the comment: But for many on this list, again, the assumption is that it's just another young n-gg-r shot in the ghetto. 1. In general, there seems to be some crime problems in Asbury. 2. For some reason, people just can't grasp the concept of cameras.

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Jenni
: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:15 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Jim, I think you may be pushing it with the comment: But for many on this list, again

[AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread oakdorf
as a landlord, you can get he place ready for a co and pass - then the tenant moves in. Sometimes you get good tenants - and sometimes not, And that doesn't matter rich or poor nor by race. And the system doesn't make easy to evict a tenant either.

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night

2011-08-09 Thread Jenni
carefully. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:45 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night as a landlord, you can get he place