FZfan has just got his transporter, but is unable to make the meet
(There are are some nice pictures in page 6 of the thread).
Sleestack has one transporter being modded, and the other is on back
order.
Are there no Bay Area Transporter owners we can tempt?
Anyone?
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I think the correct way to evaluate products is to compare them in their
approximate price ranges.
I don't know how can we really compare SB3 DAC vs. highly sophisticated
Lavry. Transporter seems to be better match.
I also don't know if I would compare Lavry to some no-compromise
products
Why to compare the value for money? There are many products out
there that are very expensive with no better design or parts than low
to mid range products. Many products live on reputations gained many
years ago and they do not live up to that reputation.
Granted you are not comparing
dlite;145598 Wrote:
Why to compare the value for money? There are many products out
there that are very expensive with no better design or parts than low
to mid range products. Many products live on reputations gained many
years ago and they do not live up to that reputation.
Granted
It would make more sence to develop a remote with some cool custom
proprietory software, rather than a branded web tablet which just uses
the Nokia 770 skin or whatever. I hope thats what there planning.
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325xi;145599 Wrote:
Because any such comparison is highly subjective.
But isn't that the point?
I think it's a valid question. If a listening test based around a
high-resolution system found little or no difference between, say, a
modded SB3 and a full dcS setup, then the value of the dcS
Thanks guys, I'll look at getting one :)
One question: what impact would mains conditioning have on such a power
supply? I would have thought that it should be zero, as it itself is a
filter. Is that what people have found in practice? Or is my theory
hopelessly flawed here? :)
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adamslim;145610 Wrote:
Thanks guys, I'll look at getting one :)
One question: what impact would mains conditioning have on such a power
supply? I would have thought that it should be zero, as it itself is a
filter. Is that what people have found in practice? Or is my theory
hopelessly
325xi;145599 Wrote:
Because any such comparison is highly subjective. Some sound may appeal
to your taste but not to be really better. So we want to keep as much
as possible potentially influencing factors out of the picture.
If you compare Toyota to Ferrari and prefer Toyota because of
Well, I got mine today.
Not listened much yet, but first impressions are... wow!
Even with my limited setup (Rotel RC-870BX pre, RB-850 power, BW DM610,
no fancy cables) it sounds staggeringly good.
Bass is tight, highs are smooth, imaging is phenomenal, background is
black as a very black
325xi;145599 Wrote:
Because any such comparison is highly subjective. Some sound may appeal
to your taste but not to be really better. So we want to keep as much
as possible potentially influencing factors out of the picture.
Like price, you mean?
You've made a series of arguments for
Fifer;145273 Wrote:
Patrick, now that we are half way through 'next week', are you still on
track with this hope? Any news at all on an ETA for UK distributor
orders? Thanks.
Bump, bump ...
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Does anyone have any experience of or opinions on 'Orb Audio'
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Thanks for that!
in case anyone is interested my full setup is :-
Elonex Book PC Debian 3.1 wired LAN 8 port switch FLAC files on
Linkstation PC or wired LAN SB3 standard power supply via RA
trailing socket coax digital Cyrus DAC X RA interconnect Cyrus
PreXvs + PSX-r Avondale Audio
Here, pick up a better receiver used at a lower price, leave yourself
plenty of room for speakers.
http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch1165170917class34;
Or even better, wait for another of these to come up:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr1165499912
As long as you're
his has been discussed to death, but allow me to repeat a few points:
1. It is a professional audio product. It is NOT an audiophile
product. That is the say, the primary market for the device is the
professional recording community and not the audiophile community. The
Lavry DA10 is a
Fifer;145657 Wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of or opinions on 'Orb Audio'
(http://www.orbaudio.com/) speakers?
I've had Orb Audio Mod 1's for over a year now. I think they are
great. I'm not an audiophile so I can't talk the talk but there are
some reviews out there that might be
mudlark;145658 Wrote:
My only problem at the moment is that the PC needs to be up to use
Alien BBC as I am still getting to grips with Linux.
There are many linux resources out there. LinuxBasics have a free
course: http://www.linuxbasics.org/course/start
Tom
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SB3, Rotel
probedb;145666 Wrote:
I'm listening to more music at home since I got the Squeezebox...so
much so that I'm actually looking at upgrading my stereo in pieces so I
actually have a hi-fi amp.
Yep. My diagnosis: another case of SqueezeBox Upgraditis. It's an
epidemic that is spreading like the
Of course it's the right forum, we're nice people :)
Audiolab stuff I know well. The 8000A worked but was rather dull,
seeming to over-analyse the music without presenting it coherently.
You could hear detail, but it didn't really sound like a group playing
instruments together. Not bad for
mudlark;145144 Wrote:
Radio 3 for ever. How the heck am i going to find enough time to listen
to all this good music!!
If you really want to lose yourself, try getting a decent FM tuner (and
a decent aerial). Like, say, a NAD 402 (£20 on ebay) and a rooftop
aerial. Makes CDs, FLACs, even
adamslim;145698 Wrote:
If you really want to lose yourself, try getting a decent FM tuner (and
a decent aerial). Like, say, a NAD 402 (£20 on ebay) and a rooftop
aerial. Makes CDs, FLACs, even DVD-A and especially 160kbps DAB sound
like mush.
I agree that a good FM tuner with a good
A lot of these proposed super remotes and GUIs would be nice, but IMO
they are overkill. The way I use my squeezeboxes, I spend a few
seconds, or occasionally maybe a minute, finding what I want and then
I'm good for hours of playback.
If you have meaningful tags, you can just load up an
tomsi42;145709 Wrote:
I agree that a good FM tuner with a good signal sounds great. But not as
good as CD and FLAC (or DVD audio). FM has a frequency cut-off at 15kHz
and even I can hear above that (OK, only to 16KHz - but still).
You need a good source. Radio 3 in the UK is amazing; when
I have read some very favorable reviews for the Super T Amp from Sonic
Impact Technologies. I am thinking about building a small system around
it and the Squeezebox 3. I have also read that the Super T Amp works
best with efficient 8 ohm speakers.
I would appreciate some recommendations about
adamslim;145721 Wrote:
You need a good source. Radio 3 in the UK is amazing; when they do live
relays it really is *much* better than CD. However, most radio is just
CD, so hasn't got much chance...
We have some high-quality radio stations here in Norway (no I'm not
talking about P4) and
The Klipsch bookshelf models are high efficiency, affordable and nice
sounding. Should be well suited to rock.
Here are the RB-51s:
https://www.klipsch.com/products/details/rb-51.aspx
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highdudgeon;145672 Wrote:
Hopefully Phil will have more that one person over, hopefully they can
do some blind testing, etc. This stuff is, in the end, subjective --
remember, subjective doesn't mean that something is better in an
absolute sense, it just means you you LIKE it more; it is
While you're about designing the new remote, how about a voice interface
so I can just tell it to play the Rolling Stones? The vocabulary of the
squeezebox is quite limited so it should be easy to make a voice
interface.
If I am playing music loudly and one of the songs contains lyrics like
To throw another suggestion into the mix I suggest checking out
AV123.com. In particular their x series speakers which fit into your
budget. They currently have some package deals for offer,
http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakersproduct=83.1
I own the x-ls, x-cs x-sub and
tyler_durden;145734 Wrote:
While you're about designing the new remote, how about a voice interface
so I can just tell it to play the Rolling Stones? The vocabulary of the
squeezebox is quite limited so it should be easy to make a voice
interface.
TD
Voice activated solutions are always
CardinalFang;145737 Wrote:
Voice activated solutions are always going to be a problem in noisy
environments - trying to split out commands or band names from music
with vocals would be pretty tough for software I would imagine.
Actually it is not that hard if the thing making the music is
seanadams;145740 Wrote:
Actually it is not that hard if the thing making the music is also the
thing doing the voice recognition, because you know what's noise vs
signal. Philips has a stereo system that will take voice commands even
when you have the music cranked so loud that you can't
Omri;145723 Wrote:
I have read some very favorable reviews for the Super T Amp from Sonic
Impact Technologies. I am thinking about building a small system around
it and the Squeezebox 3. I have also read that the Super T Amp works
best with efficient 8 ohm speakers.
I would appreciate
highdudgeon;145761 Wrote:
Those are all very good cables (my ranting aside, I do own a set of
Audience AU24s and I have had numerous expensive cables before coming
to my senses.
1. I trust your honesty and integrity. Even though it won't be
scientific, I'm sure you will be fair. It's
this is mostly a historical question, since i think traditional cd
players are a dying breed and I'm installing my transporter tonight,
but i'm still curious. why didn't cd manufacturers stick 20-30
megabytes of memory into their machines and rebuffer and re-clock the
bitstream to avoid all the
pvadbx wrote:
why didn't cd manufacturers stick 20-30
megabytes of memory into their machines and rebuffer and re-clock the
bitstream to avoid all the sonic problems associated with a mechanical
transport?
Because the RedBook CD was designed in 1975 or so, when memory cost
thousands of
Since they do that on portable CDs to fight the skipping problems. Too
late now, computer music storage is the new killer apps for the home
audio market.
SB3MF3.24DACNak PA7sBW N802Nice!
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Pat Farrell;145804 Wrote:
pvadbx wrote:
am i missing something? why didn't manufacturures do this?
Because it would have cost too much.
And 700 MB was an inconceivable amount of storage.
sure, when CDs were invented, I understand. but say in 2000, why did't
the audiophile CD
Even better that just having more buffer, and I'm not sure why nobody
thought of this for DVDs, would have been to distribute the data in a
RAID-like way, with parity blocks on diametrically opposite areas of
the disc. So you could completely obliterate any part of the disc and
as long as enough
Omri;145723 Wrote:
I have read some very favorable reviews for the Super T Amp from Sonic
Impact Technologies. I am thinking about building a small system around
it and the Squeezebox 3. I have also read that the Super T Amp works
best with efficient 8 ohm speakers.
I would appreciate
ceejay;145319 Wrote:
I'm a little puzzled by this discussion (I could say I don't have this
problem, but that might not be seen as helpful!).
One thing that has been noted before is that, without external
attentuation, the SB does have a rather higher output level than many
other devices:
probedb;145666 Wrote:
Well not sure if this is the right forum, move if necessary.
I'm listening to more music at home since I got the Squeezebox...so
much so that I'm actually looking at upgrading my stereo in pieces so I
actually have a hi-fi amp. So much easier than messing with Winamp.
I only say this in order to let you know that perhaps indeed you have a
problem elsewhere in your signal chain, but fact is I get absolutely no
noise - 0 - when no music plays or during silent passages, regardless of
how loud my amp is turned up (110w). (Not to be dismissive; again, just
to
Ok, so Ben just left after about 2 hours of comparisons. I'll outline
what we listened to, then let Ben make the first comments about what we
heard.
We did two sets of comparisons:
1: Using the Blue Circle BC3000mkII preamp, we listened to:
-Transporter - Dodson DA-218 DAC
-SB2 (w/Elpac) -
seanadams;145820 Wrote:
Even better that just having more buffer, and I'm not sure why nobody
thought of this for DVDs, would have been to distribute the data in a
RAID-like way, with parity blocks on diametrically opposite areas of
the disc. So you could completely obliterate any part of
The Lavry DA10 will sound a bit soft in many systems and is a house
sound. Having owned both that and a Lavry Blue I wouldn't consider them
very similar except for that house sound. And to suggest the DA10 comes
close to the Lavry Gold is not remotely like my experience of them -
more like
If I have two other digital sources (other than the Transporter - which
I don't have, I have a Squeezebox) can I use the Transporter as a
preamp? At this stage it appears to me the answer is 'no'. When I
look at the Transporter's remote there doesn't appear to be any buttons
for source
pvadbx wrote:
sure, when CDs were invented, I understand. but say in 2000, why did't
the audiophile CD manufacturers take a different approach. when you are
selling a machine for $1K, $2K plus, you can do a lot of things.
In the 2000s, they conspired to sell you DVD-A and SACD. Of course,
I've had a Lavry Blue and now own a DA10 -- I have had experience with
both products for quite some time. I've not only heard the DA10
compared favorably with the Gold, but I've heard both in the same
system. Of course it was different. For $8,000 more, it had better be
different. But, it was
Jenks;145838 Wrote:
The Lavry DA10 will sound a bit soft in many systems and is a house
sound. Having owned both that and a Lavry Blue I wouldn't consider them
very similar except for that house sound. And to suggest the DA10 comes
close to the Lavry Gold is not remotely like my experience
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