[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - measuring question

2006-11-27 Thread ob_kook
inguz;157513 Wrote: Those graphs look great. They're not hitting digital-clipping. (For a more realistic look, try click the drop-down arrow beside the filename, and select Waveform (dB) instead of Waveform; the default scale is linear) Some interesting asymmetry, with the mid-region

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-27 Thread SoftwireEngineer
tomsi42;157220 Wrote: Now, that is a test I can relate to. Unfortunately, the only whiskey I have at the moment is a cheap Irish one that is barely usable in an Irish coffee! What a coincidence, I just got a Jameson for the Irish coffee. I did not like the Bacardi Gold with my rum cake and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.

2006-11-27 Thread geraint smith
I like the idea, as long as I can make jokes. :-) Back to the drawing board, then..although they did always say that the 12 step could work miracles... (I know, I know! Cheap shot. Just couldn't resist!) -- geraint smith

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread GaryG
atkinsonrr;157724 Wrote: atkinsonrr;157716 Wrote: Do I dare entertain the thought that this indicates a budding consensus on the relative placement of Transporter? Just taking into account these two 'direct-comparison' reviews (the only ones I've seen), a ranking would shape up like

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread Mark Lanctot
GaryG;157769 Wrote: Given that ACM reported that his stock Denon 5910 was better than the Transporter I'm not sure the updated list looks so impressive (assuming of course that the Meitner is better than the Denon). The Denon 5910 retails for $3800, if we're going for the more $$$ = better

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Room Correction Hope for Mac?

2006-11-27 Thread geraint smith
LejfK;157737 Wrote: Vote three Make that four. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29705

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.

2006-11-27 Thread chinablues
A classic cartoon I saw many years ago had Ghengis Khan sitting slouched over a pile of rugs outside his tent. Looking kind of rough after a hard night and in no fit shape to do any more raping looting or pillaging. Facing him was a whole bunch of Mongols, spears and bows at the ready with the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-27 Thread opaqueice
chinablues;157150 Wrote: The real question is, does the drinking and savouring of 18 year old double distilled malt whisky versus the common or garden 12 year old, make a subtle difference to my perception of the sound? It should make me more mellow I'd assume. Why else would I pay for

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-27 Thread tomsi42
SoftwireEngineer;157743 Wrote: What a coincidence, I just got a Jameson for the Irish coffee. I did not like the Bacardi Gold with my rum cake and did not like it. So I thought a few bucks more for the Jameson is worth it. I did not try the stuff directly. But my sniff test and the irish

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread jhm731
acm- If you're interested in upgrading your Transporter or Meridian G68, Mauimods.com (Aberdeen)is the one to contact. It would be interesting to compare an upgraded Transporter to a aplhifi.com upgraded Denon 5910. -- jhm731

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-27 Thread chinablues
rajacat;157808 Wrote: I suspect that many people couldn't identify the various scotches in your test. Indeed, the same could be said for the tasting of fine wines, if fact, many prefer a cheap sweet wine to the best dry Cabernet's. It follows that the appreciation of high end audio gear

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.

2006-11-27 Thread atkinsonrr
tomjtx;157731 Wrote: we have to make sure the audiophile is centered in front of us in an equilateral triangle so that our greeting is in stereo And the objectivists and subjectivists, We'd all be there But oh the sound--it'd be so dynamic! It would make us so electrostatic! That none of us

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread Impeller
I'm hoping to purchase my first 'real' hifi equipment, which will be something like this: Rotel RA05 amplifier Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers Reasonably priced speaker stands Is it likely I'll hear a difference between the Squeezebox and the Transporter with a budget system like that? I'm no

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-27 Thread SoftwireEngineer
tomsi42;157804 Wrote: Lucky Guy ;) If I remember correctly, it is Jameson that is the recommended Whiskey for Irish Coffee. And it is quite drinkable on its own as well. My personal favorite Irish whiskey is Bushmills Malt - straight. Yes, I got the Jameson as it is the recommended one for

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread tomsi42
Impeller;157835 Wrote: I'm hoping to purchase my first 'real' hifi equipment, which will be something like this: Rotel RA05 amplifier Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers Reasonably priced speaker stands Is it likely I'll hear a difference between the Squeezebox and the Transporter with a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread empty99
Impeller;157835 Wrote: I'm hoping to purchase my first 'real' hifi equipment, which will be something like this: Rotel RA05 amplifier Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers Reasonably priced speaker stands Is it likely I'll hear a difference between the Squeezebox and the Transporter with a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread happy
tomsi42;157840 Wrote: I think the transport would be overkill for that system. If I were in your position, I would use the price difference between the SB3 and the transporter in better amplifier and speakers. Staying with Rotel, I can recommend the Rotel RA-1072 amplifier. There are many

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-27 Thread highdudgeon
Actually, I'm kind of into wine (it helps that my father-in-law runs a highly regarded winery) and definitely into single malts. In my experience, while novices couldn't identify specifically what it was that they *liked* about a particular drink, they could always pick out the better one from

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread Impeller
Okay, thanks for saving me from myself. It's just that the 'free Squeezebox with a Transporter' promotion caught my eye! If you have any suggestions for the power supply and external DAC I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks again. Edit: I see you've already put some forward, although those terms

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread adamslim
Gosh what agreement, and I shall add to it. The SB3 is fine to drive a £2k system. I would get the SB3, plus an amp and speakers that use up only 75% of your budget. Live with it for a month, and tweak (PSU, DAC, better cables etc) only if you actually really want much better sounds. Get into

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread Wombat
Impeller;157835 Wrote: I'm no audiophile (yet) Think twice boy! Joining the dark side may end your well sorted lifestyle you may be in atm. Me thinks destroyed more synapses from finding the holy audio grail than from excessive drinking! One recommendation though is you really take your time

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread highdudgeon
I absolutely concur. tomsi42;157840 Wrote: I think the transport would be overkill for that system. If I were in your position, I would use the price difference between the SB3 and the transporter in better amplifier and speakers. Staying with Rotel, I can recommend the Rotel RA-1072

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread GaryG
Mark Lanctot;157782 Wrote: The Denon 5910 retails for $3800, if we're going for the more $$$ = better argument. It's their flagship player. Mark, take a look at the Slim Devices home page, you'll find the following quote: Transporter's sound quality surpasses even the most exotic compact

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread highdudgeon
Why not? Because of the brand name? GaryG;157879 Wrote: Mark, take a look at the Slim Devices home page, you'll find the following quote: Maybe we have different expectations on the meaning of exotic but to me the Denon 5910 isn't exotic, flagship maybe, but exotic, no. Regards

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - odd results

2006-11-27 Thread rbl
Spent a few hours over the weekend and got the following results ROOM PLACEMENT - done with just one ESL 988 - I moved it around to all obvious places and sure the response changed, but not really for the better. Just different peaks and troughs. Top to bottom is still about 28dB, and much the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 + Lavry DA10 set up questions

2006-11-27 Thread tjw
I have switched the jumpers between pin 2 hot and pin 3 hot and still no results. I also do not get a sound out of the headphone jack with any of these configurations. I am beginning to think that it is my connection between the SB3 and the Lavry DA10. I am curious what cables others have used

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - odd results

2006-11-27 Thread Pat Farrell
rbl wrote: - If I put the 988s way into the room then I did get a better frequency plot, but sadly it is completely unrealistic to use them there. Sadly, most speakers sound much better out in the room, and that tends to have a terrible, if not totally unacceptable WAF. Quads, Maggies, etc

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-11-27 Thread AudioPhil
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread Mark Lanctot
GaryG;157879 Wrote: Mark, take a look at the Slim Devices home page, you'll find the following quote: Maybe we have different expectations on the meaning of exotic but to me the Denon 5910 isn't exotic, flagship maybe, but exotic, no. Well yeah, but that's kind of a marketing statement.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread GaryG
One of the definitions for extoic is: Intriguingly unusual or different; although in the case of Slim Device's marketing my interpretation of that statement was to imply 'the best', in other words the Transporter can rub shoulders with the best CD players. Regards Gary -- GaryG

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-11-27 Thread Jetlag
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread GaryG
Mark What it boils down to is I'm too honest for my own good, I ordered my transporter on the basis of the marketing and am disappointed to read about it's relative ranking. Regards Gary -- GaryG GaryG's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 + Lavry DA10 set up questions

2006-11-27 Thread topa
It's obvious, but you never know: Did you make sure the digital output of the SB3 is activated at all? (See Player settings!) Tobi. -- topa topa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7118 View this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread snarlydwarf
GaryG;157897 Wrote: What it boils down to is I'm too honest for my own good, I ordered my transporter on the basis of the marketing and am disappointed to read about it's relative ranking. But reading isn't hearing and discerning for yourself what you prefer. This is especially true in

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread tomsi42
GaryG;157897 Wrote: Mark What it boils down to is I'm too honest for my own good, I ordered my transporter on the basis of the marketing and am disappointed to read about it's relative ranking. Regards Gary Has it arrived yet? If not, ignore the relative ranking bit for now. When you

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review

2006-11-27 Thread GaryG
I ordered it shortly after the pre-order started, but hedged my bets on the marketing being over enthusiastic and had it shipped directly to Bolder Cables for Wayne to modify it. Now to avoid getting jumped on by my fellow members my expectations are high, I want to replace my GNSC 'Statement'

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread ceejay
I think this thread may have just broken the record for longest thread without any disagreement on this forum... ;) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread Impeller
tomsi42;157840 Wrote: Staying with Rotel, I can recommend the Rotel RA-1072 amplifier. Was it the RA-1062 you meant? The 1072 seems to be the matching CD player. Would the amp upgrade really make much difference at this level? Wouldn't I be better off sticking with the cheaper amp and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wanted to Buy: Modded PS for SB3

2006-11-27 Thread sc53
Is the Mauimods PS still available or did you sell it? Is it plug and play with Squeezebox 3? -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread highdudgeon
Cheaper amp, better speakers, cheaper amp, better speakers. The differences between amps is nuance compared to the differences between speakers and even the same speakers differently positioned within a room. You've got a respectable source; get the best speakers you can; think about optimizing

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Digital room correction on Linux

2006-11-27 Thread Robert57
I also would like to chime in with a request for Mac support for Inguz room correction. Once ported to Linux, I hope it wouldn't be be too difficult to bring it to Mac OSX. Are there any other DRC developments that could work on Mac OSX? Thanks! -- Robert57

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.

2006-11-27 Thread P Floding
atkinsonrr;157526 Wrote: A while ago, P.Floding started a thread called something like Moderator where are you?. In it, he makes the following point: The biggest problem is the SNR (signal-noise ratio). It is really easy to do wisecracking and post the 50th variation on the same old joke

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FS: Bolder modded Elpac

2006-11-27 Thread ecruz
I'm selling my Bolder modded Elpac to upgrade to the bigger PS. I paid $40 for the Elpac $85 for the mod (Wayne's now charging $100 for the mod). I'm asking $110 plus shipping. I also have a wireless Squeezebox(the original model) that I'm going to list on ebay as soon as I receieve my new SB3.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP

2006-11-27 Thread tomsi42
Impeller;157919 Wrote: Was it the RA-1062 you meant? The 1072 seems to be the matching CD player. You are right. It's the RA-1062 I was thinking of. Impeller;157919 Wrote: Would the amp upgrade really make much difference at this level? Wouldn't I be better off sticking with the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - odd results

2006-11-27 Thread inguz
I'd be very interested to get a copy of your sweep recordings to analyze. Can you email them (hpyle at cabezal dot com), or up by ftp? ftp.inguzaudio.com user: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pass: inguz Thanks! -- inguz inguz's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - measuring question

2006-11-27 Thread inguz
Interesting room. I suspect the right-channel nulls really are the right wall/window. Are there heavy drapes on that window? There are probably some rear-wall reflections from the front of the tv/console. I've played with a similar setup (fireplace, not tv) and some absorption on those front

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wanted to Buy: Modded PS for SB3

2006-11-27 Thread mantis007
Powersupply is sold. -- mantis007 mantis007's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=491 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29280

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mini SB3 system idea

2006-11-27 Thread arge
I been thinking: what if I buy a transporter for my main stereo and reassign the SBs to the bedroom(1) / kitchen(2) what would these compact systems look like? So I moved my SB to the bedroom and did run some tests using three different sets of powered computer speakers: - Cheap $15 Altec

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.

2006-11-27 Thread tomjtx
P Floding;157929 Wrote: The main problem is really that a few select people have taken upon themselves to define what is acceptable thinking, and what is stupid -hence bullying anyone who is stupid enough to have idéas that are not confirmant enough for this crowd. This is just

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.

2006-11-27 Thread opaqueice
P Floding;157929 Wrote: T So, so long, and thank you for the fish! This is (at least) the second time you've announced your permanent departure from this forum... let's see how long this one lasts. -- opaqueice

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.

2006-11-27 Thread tomjtx
opaqueice;157968 Wrote: This is (at least) the second time you've announced your permanent departure from this forum... let's see how long this one lasts. maybe P. will leave for a long time. I kinda hate to say that, I really think all should be able to say what they want but his last post

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-27 Thread opaqueice
highdudgeon;157847 Wrote: Of course, there is the UC Davis oenology department black cup test...where in, yes, double-blind tests experienced tasters scored 50% in distinguishing reds from whites. In another experiment, cheap and expensive wines were poured into different bottles. In a